Juno News - January 27, 2023


The CBC doubles down on its fake news


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17 minutes

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Misogynist Sentences

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00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to you all this is another edition of fake news friday here on true north
00:00:14.900 it is friday january 27th so we are here to sift through the blizzard of lies the rivers of
00:00:22.360 malicious intent or some cases just incompetence in the mainstream media and deliver the goods to
00:00:27.940 you expose the untruth deliver the truths sue ann levy is here with me guest hosting once again i am
00:00:33.920 andrew lawton sue ann how was the week for you it was terrific andrew how is it for you well if people
00:00:41.600 have not been able to hear i am a little bit under the weather i don't know if i've like picked up
00:00:46.320 something from klaus schwab and the davos folks or if i picked up something when i got back to
00:00:51.240 canada but i'm rallying i'm trying to get through the day you weren't wearing the same bathing suit
00:00:57.060 that he was um oh gosh no that in that case i would deserve uh deserve any harms that came my way
00:01:03.100 um one of the big stories i actually came back to canada to see was this weird back and forth between
00:01:09.980 uh it started with cbc but is now ballooned to include other media outlets and danielle smith's
00:01:16.600 government in alberta and there i mean it's a little bit of a game of ping pong here so i'm going to try to
00:01:21.820 summarize it as best as i can but what started was cbc ran a story that was very specific in nature
00:01:30.320 that there was an email from a staffer in danielle smith's office to a prosecutor in alberta that was
00:01:37.480 trying to effectively or was tantamount to interfering in the justice system as it pertained to a lot of
00:01:43.620 the covid charges against people like arthur pulowski and other pastors and businesses that had been under the
00:01:49.480 ire of alberta health services during the height of lockdowns now this was very specific and danielle
00:01:56.020 smith's government was fairly clear that this email which cbc had not seen didn't quote didn't even
00:02:02.440 reference apart from saying it existed uh was not actually authentic so they did an internal review
00:02:08.820 and found nothing they looked at emails deleted emails messages across the alberta uh government
00:02:15.680 and including i think a lot of people that would have never even been implicated but just to be
00:02:19.880 thorough they did it and found absolutely nothing but since then the media has been doubling down on
00:02:26.280 this cbc ran another story citing unnamed sources through and through the globe and mail has now run
00:02:32.440 a story saying oh but uh it wouldn't have caught the uh email the review wouldn't have caught the email
00:02:37.000 if it was deleted more than 30 days ago so it wasn't a real inquiry i i mean this is a case of both
00:02:43.420 sides really digging their heels in well it it speaks to the state of journalism in canada today
00:02:50.920 um andrew i mean in my previous incarnation as a post-media toronto sun journalist investigative
00:02:59.260 journalist i would have never dreamed of doing a story unless i had solid proof emails and even beyond
00:03:08.660 that you know talking to maybe even the sources who uh provided the emails or or wrote the emails
00:03:16.340 or whatever but uh and and getting the other side of the story i mean i don't know how they think they
00:03:24.020 can get away with it because i guess us on the right we we people on the right of of things conservatives
00:03:32.020 are always three steps from a potential lawsuit if we don't do our homework it speaks to the double
00:03:38.980 standard lack of journalism the lack of um i guess taking good care to uh make sure that your sources
00:03:48.180 are accurate and i'm just going to say one more thing i'm working on uh some ttc uh stories uh about
00:03:56.180 you know the just the total dysfunction in the toronto transit commission system and i've had a
00:04:03.700 number of anonymous sources come forward to me some of them not so anonymous and i've insisted that they
00:04:08.900 provide emails uh documents proof of what's going on before i would even even dare write about it
00:04:18.100 oh hugely and i think that the first thing i would point out here is that in the original version of
00:04:23.780 cbc story they didn't even admit that they hadn't seen the emails on which they were reporting this
00:04:29.460 was only revealed in an update uh an editor's note they put out later saying the original version of
00:04:35.060 the story published january 19th neglected to note that cbc news has not seen the emails in question
00:04:41.860 so this is actually reminding me of a lot of the journalistic malfeasance that took place around
00:04:46.740 the trump russia gate for example where people were commenting on innuendo and all of these things
00:04:51.860 without actually having looked at the product on which they're reporting and on which they're
00:04:56.820 hinging their story and you're right you and i both know from working in media you many years longer
00:05:02.420 than i have that anyone will come out and say anything for whatever reason you've got to be
00:05:08.260 able to provide proof so when they're relying on unnamed anonymous sources documents they haven't seen
00:05:14.660 this is worth nothing as a piece of journalism well it's so dangerous to do that andrew and
00:05:21.380 you know like i said as a conservative investigative uh journalist i would always be concerned about
00:05:29.220 being threatened with a lawsuit or uh you know being reported to some liberal body uh for not doing
00:05:37.460 my homework and i i you know i wouldn't dare write anything and and i mean i think the standards
00:05:43.860 have slipped so low and the i guess the people who are beholden to trudeau now for the bailouts and for
00:05:53.780 the way journalism is shaped in canada don't even care they don't even care to withhold proper
00:06:00.900 investigative standards you are right about the double standard because we would never get a pass for
00:06:06.180 doing something like that but i would also say nor should we that that is not something that anyone
00:06:10.980 should be passing off as journalism and it's a little rich when you get these people like those
00:06:15.220 in cbc or the parliamentary press gallery that think they're the gatekeepers they're the arbiters
00:06:20.580 of real journalism when they're peddling this nonsense well and you know i don't know what their legal
00:06:28.260 staff are like andrew but whenever i did an investigative report big or small it would go through
00:06:35.620 our lawyers and it would be checked six ways to sunday and the first thing the lawyer would say do
00:06:40.740 you have documented proof of what you're writing about so there doesn't seem to be any checks and
00:06:46.180 balances um and i guess because they are the official gate the official uh news gathering source i
00:06:55.700 hesitate to say news gathering source of canada uh trudeau's official press secretaries they get
00:07:01.460 away with it and it's just it's so frustrating to me as someone who spent 32 years in journalism in
00:07:08.580 the 31 in the mainstream media to see this kind of sloppy uh journalism and then doubling down on the
00:07:16.900 story and then people just picking it up you know there's the other aspect of it and i wrote about this
00:07:22.100 in my book and i'm not shamelessly plugging it because it's now six years old but uh i wrote about the
00:07:28.180 fact that the packed journalism if if cbc writes about it then x will write about it y will write
00:07:34.180 about it and they just don't care yeah i would think you're you're very right there and i would
00:07:40.820 encourage everyone to rise up to the level of truth and accountability in in journalism as consumers as
00:07:46.580 well to tell outlets that this is not actually real journalism and the one thing i'll say just before
00:07:52.260 we move on here is that i feel like this is both sides are confident enough about their version of the
00:07:57.380 events that i feel it's going to come down to some really weird technicality where some email is
00:08:03.220 called pressuring but it wasn't actually i i feel that's what we're headed towards at a certain point
00:08:08.980 here but let's move on to the culture wars national arts center in ottawa is inviting a quote black
00:08:16.260 only audience unquote to a staging of the show alicia harris's is god is which is running from february
00:08:24.740 9th to 18th and this is one of a series of offerings over black history month the nac though
00:08:31.780 says it is an all black identifying audience that is the only group that's able to come yet they also
00:08:39.380 say that they're not encouraging racial segregation so again uh sue ann it's like who are you going to
00:08:45.060 believe me or your lying eyes oh well you know that the proof is in the actual promotional materials
00:08:52.340 from the national arts center and you know it's i'm just sort of bracing myself for black history
00:08:58.900 month because of course it starts february 1st the month of february and there's going to be a lot more
00:09:03.620 of things like this i've already seen you know black lectures black counseling black sports teams
00:09:10.180 in the school system black segregation for this black segregation for that and you know we we in the
00:09:16.980 world have come it's just beyond me i mean i write a lot about this not the national arts center story
00:09:24.020 but the similar issues in the school system where everything has come full circle you know you know
00:09:30.820 the black population and the anti-black racism as i call them race grifters are complaining about
00:09:36.660 white supremacy but they're doing the same thing they're segregating uh blacks from uh whites and giving
00:09:44.180 them special privilege treatment and you know i don't you know i don't know if you can solve all
00:09:50.660 you're doing is creating divisiveness i don't know if you can solve issues uh that you perceive to be
00:09:56.420 going on with racism in school system in theater groups whatever in our cultural institutions and
00:10:04.100 frankly i don't think we're that racist in canada i would offer to say that probably the united states
00:10:10.260 it is worse and i've seen it with my own eyes but you know what are we going to do next and are we
00:10:15.540 going to have uh gay and lesbian only nights or jewish only nights only i can go and see a movie about
00:10:22.900 or a theater performance about the holocaust i mean how do the other thing is and i'm sorry because i
00:10:29.540 feel feel very passionate about this how can we as a society learn about uh the way uh black population
00:10:38.980 is feeling and what they went through if we're being shunned or banned from seeing the very things
00:10:46.020 that we're are they're trying to use to educate us i mean it seems rather ironic or hypocritical
00:10:52.180 i don't understand it at all i know i think that's a hugely important point is setting aside for a moment
00:10:58.180 whether it's right to include or exclude based on race it's certainly counterproductive to them because
00:11:04.100 now you know anyone who because who who is the type of non-black person that would be going to
00:11:08.660 this it would be someone who wants to go in with an open mind with an open heart and actually hear
00:11:12.980 different perspectives so to exclude that person because they're not black identifying makes no
00:11:20.180 sense whatsoever but we have to also talk about black identifying so now we're seeing that the
00:11:25.380 transification of race because i remember a few years ago when everyone mocked rachel dolzhal for
00:11:31.380 deciding that she identified as black and now you can identify as black if you really want to get
00:11:36.900 into the movie screening like how can we now suggest that race is so malleable as to just be something
00:11:42.900 that is subject to self-declaration well it's same holds true for trans before the whole trans issue
00:11:50.740 you know you can put on a dress and a really cheap wig and huge prosthetic breasts and you can say
00:11:56.900 now that you're a woman you deserve special treatment over even though you're biologically
00:12:01.860 a male and this is the whole this is the whole argument that we're having now in canadian society
00:12:10.020 and i don't know if i walked into the nac and i said i identify as black i have black genes i took
00:12:16.820 uh 23 and me the test and i'm 10 black according to them do you want to see the results of the test not
00:12:23.780 that that happened of course but you know is that you know is that the way they're going to decide who
00:12:30.180 can watch this and who can't or do you just have to come in with black face or black skin notice i got
00:12:36.500 the black face in yeah i i find it to be very offensive and we are working now towards this idea
00:12:44.740 that goes against everything i was ever told about race growing up which is that the goal is that we have
00:12:50.020 this colorblind society where people have their own identities but we aren't saying that you can
00:12:54.820 only go here if you're this race and only go there if you're that race and we aren't siloing off
00:12:59.860 communities so that they aren't engaging with each other i mean if we do have a racism problem in
00:13:05.220 society either at a systemic level or just at an individual level the way you break through that is
00:13:11.060 not by separating everyone well you know and it's happening in the states too because i interviewed somebody
00:13:16.900 last year a black mom of of two girls and they had segregated assemblies in a school before she
00:13:23.140 pulled them out of that school um i mean it reminds me of going to the back of the bus or jews are not
00:13:29.860 welcome at certain country clubs you know it's we like i said we've come full circle and that's not
00:13:36.500 going to solve our problems it's going to make the country extremely divisive and i hope the pendulum
00:13:42.180 swings back at some point because it's just you know insanity well we always like to end things on
00:13:49.140 a bit of a lighter note here we've talked about black identifying what about husband identifying what
00:13:54.900 about trans husbandry not that being a husband is what husbandry is so just forgive that for a moment
00:14:00.340 uh vicky bachama in the globe and mail says it seems great to be a husband so why can't women be husbands
00:14:07.700 too her argument seems to be that there's this whole realm of so-called trad wives typically
00:14:14.660 women in their 20s their 30s their 40s who want to make their men's sandwiches and give them a foot
00:14:20.420 rub on the couch and serve them a cold beer and all of that and she says you know what it sounds like
00:14:24.980 being a husband is great she wants in on the action why should men be able to have all the fun
00:14:30.820 now sue ann i not to you know typecast you here you have a husbandless marriage though so you're
00:14:36.740 you seem to be fine without a husband we are doing just fine and when people ask you know
00:14:42.500 we've had people ask us who's the husband and who's the wife we find that very offensive
00:14:46.980 we're equal opportunity we share responsibilities um you know denise has certain strengths i have
00:14:53.300 certain strengths but to me this whole column this whole idea of becoming a husband is like going back
00:15:00.500 to the stepford wives of the 50s and 60s what woman today is you know uh not in an equal partnership i
00:15:09.380 i don't know of any myself uh we've certainly made it work very very well as two females um and i would
00:15:17.060 venture to say probably in your marriage you're you know you you share responsibilities nobody's you
00:15:23.060 know your wife isn't waiting for you at the door with some frilly dress and a you know a martini
00:15:30.740 like they used to do and like the madman days so it's just you know i don't know people are in search
00:15:37.540 of i don't know they just want to complain or in search of issues that aren't actually occurring in our
00:15:45.780 society well yeah i think that's the point because she's taking aim at gender roles but i also don't
00:15:53.060 think that the i think it's a straw man in the sense that i i don't think there is this widespread
00:15:58.500 gender role dynamic that she's describing taking place at the level that she seems to suggest it is
00:16:04.900 and if there is in individual marriages and i know there is a case of people finding that this
00:16:10.020 traditional role system works for them then who cares if there are women that are happy just becoming
00:16:15.620 you know uh for lack of a better term as you say stepford wise if there are women that like that
00:16:20.980 and it works for the men then then fine but i think she's taking aim at a problem that doesn't actually
00:16:25.300 exist well i you see it in sort of the generation of my parents or you know my in certain respects my
00:16:33.540 generation but i don't think it exists so you're telling me your wife does not agree meet you at the
00:16:38.740 door with a frilly dress and a martini in her hand i have never once had the frilly dress or the
00:16:44.020 martini awaiting me at home unfortunately but i'll uh i'll put a i'll put a comment card in the
00:16:48.180 suggestion box at home well you know i i like i said it's it's an issue in search of or a or a non-problem
00:16:57.220 in search of an issue uh it's it's people just don't know what to write about anymore and there is
00:17:03.940 plenty if you actually cover the the crazy things that are going on in the world as we well know yeah
00:17:10.420 that's the thing i mean there are enough real problems i i don't feel we need to
00:17:14.660 manufacture them but you know what vicky if you want to be a husband and have someone dote all
00:17:18.820 over you then have added i am not going to judge you if it works for you but i can tell you that
00:17:23.460 that is not exactly what being a husband looks like uh we've got to end things there sue ann levy
00:17:28.340 thank you as always i'm andrew lawton we will talk to you all next week on fake news friday have a great weekend
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