Juno News - The CBC steals another True North story

00:00:00.000 Hello everyone and welcome to Fake News Friday. I am your trusty guest level substitute fill-in

00:00:18.100 temporary substitute teachery host Andrew Lawton in for Candace Malcolm but to keep some semblance

00:00:24.820 of consistency here joining me as always is the producer extraordinaire and host of ratioed here

00:00:30.440 at true north Harrison Faulkner Harrison another Friday we made it through a week how are things

00:00:34.480 going pretty great that's a pretty nice intro to receive I gotta say and at this point I think

00:00:40.000 you're more than just the substitute host Andrew I think people should get get ready for a few

00:00:44.700 months of this at least or at least yeah probably two or two months or so of of you leading the show

00:00:49.660 see I never tell people that because then they won't tune into the next episode I always leave

00:00:53.760 a little bit of mystery so that they think that they're going to come back to Candace and then

00:00:57.180 when they come back next time and it's like oh well I guess I'm I'm here I'll stick through this one but

00:01:01.580 but either way if you're tuning in for me for Candace for Harrison for true north or because you are

00:01:05.760 trying to anger your apartment neighbor who can overhear what you listen to on your Bose speakers

00:01:10.140 either way we welcome you very much to this show and it's been as always a bit of an interesting week

00:01:15.520 which is always nice because it's very difficult to do a weekly roundup show when there hasn't been

00:01:20.780 stuff happening one of the big stories this week is the disqualification of Patrick Brown the

00:01:27.200 disqualification of conservative leadership candidate Patrick Brown by the committee that

00:01:31.940 is responsible for overseeing the rules of the leadership race now we still haven't had the

00:01:36.760 definitive official explanation except it was that they say non-compliance or what they believe

00:01:43.800 was non-compliance with elections Canada laws we've had some leaks that have come out some media

00:01:48.980 reports where people from this committee has have said that the main allegation seems to be that a

00:01:54.260 numbered company was paying for campaign expenses which is just as far as black and white goes one

00:01:59.680 of the most black and white illegal things you can do in elections but nevertheless we are still

00:02:05.380 talking about something that is going to rub people the wrong way so Patrick Brown's response to this

00:02:10.100 has been that the establishment has had it out for him the establishment shilling for Pierre

00:02:14.840 Polyev it's been that way since the get-go a lot of members have been disenfranchised they say

00:02:20.480 especially members in ethnic communities which form a large part of Patrick Brown's support

00:02:24.920 have I sufficiently summarized what is a bit of a convoluted story here Harrison

00:02:29.640 well I think and the reality of the situation here Andrew is that this is still very very much a new

00:02:36.120 story there's a lot to still understand there's a lot to know about really what's going on here and

00:02:41.620 I think that we will we will eventually learn more about these details but what we have heard is as

00:02:47.500 you said clearly uh black and white if if the allegations and the leaks that we hear are true

00:02:52.680 then that is obviously a disqualifying act in the race um but of course Andrew the uh the knives have

00:02:59.540 come out in which which side it's still to be seen but you've got you've got supporters and journalists

00:03:05.000 writing about Patrick Brown saying that he shouldn't be trusted you should trust the party

00:03:09.640 establishment and then on the other side you have Warren Kinsella a former liberal strategist

00:03:14.500 uh and someone who is usually in the news writing opinion pieces kind of riling up the riling up

00:03:19.780 conservatives in the Toronto Sun he is now uh basically defending Patrick Brown and calling into

00:03:25.940 question the conservative party establishment and I just think Andrew it's sort of a rule of thumb that

00:03:30.680 when a former liberal strategist starts to call out the conservative party establishment uh for a

00:03:37.640 conservative party candidate that's usually a good sign that maybe the conservative party candidate

00:03:42.060 that the liberal strategist is supporting is probably not the most conservative yeah Warren

00:03:47.100 Kinsella there's always been this strange conservative love in with him and and I think

00:03:51.700 one of the reasons it's so dangerous is because conservatives tend to flock to liberals who criticize

00:03:57.220 Justin Trudeau we love it so when you get people that are current or former liberals and they say

00:04:01.700 mean things about Justin Trudeau we say oh even blank is saying this so conservatives have kind of

00:04:06.660 liked oh even Warren Kinsella is saying this even Warren Kinsella is saying that as though we've

00:04:12.900 decided as people on the right to care about and respect and give any credence to what Warren Kinsella

00:04:18.720 says which I think is exactly the problem this man is not a conservative he doesn't speak for

00:04:23.180 conservatives he doesn't speak for I think the issues that matter to conservatives and I also think

00:04:28.840 when stuff like this comes along you're reminded of why and and this is a guy who remember in 2019

00:04:34.520 his company was paid by the conservative party to say bad things about the People's Party of Canada

00:04:41.960 about PPC leader Maxime Bernier so you have to wonder if a lot of this is just Warren Kinsella

00:04:48.520 understanding that his meal ticket is not going to come from Pierre Polyev he doesn't want Pierre

00:04:53.800 Polyev to win because he won't have any of that access that he's had and had in 2019 and that's why

00:05:00.680 he's seeing that Patrick Brown is the next best option again I don't know but I'm saying that

00:05:04.960 conservatives have to stop caring about what a lot of these pseudo commentators say because eventually

00:05:11.880 they reveal that they aren't actually speaking to the issues that matter to conservative members

00:05:16.640 yeah it's it is one of those problems that we see on the right Andrew where as you said if there's

00:05:22.600 someone who's somewhat of a prominent figure and I I hesitate to call Warren Kinsella a prominent

00:05:27.520 figure but in Canadian politics he certainly has a name for himself but we see it across the board

00:05:33.440 with the right like you said when there are you know big names that kind of make new make noise about

00:05:39.300 things that we all care about then we all immediately say this person is totally on our

00:05:43.600 side we have to put a lot of weight behind what they say but uh Warren Kinsella wrote an op-ed in the

00:05:48.980 sun as we mentioned and he really kind of you know blows his lid on on on the party and really goes

00:05:56.400 after them he calls the conservative party a three-ring circus that the clowns are fully in

00:06:02.040 control of um and then he goes on to actually cross-reference the conservative party of Canada

00:06:08.340 membership list and the give send go donor list so he's trying again to kind of break out that

00:06:13.720 Patrick Brown playbook the John Charest playbook of demonizing the freedom convoy demonizing those

00:06:18.340 donors to the freedom convoy what was then a legal protest uh movement to donate to

00:06:23.440 he cross-references the membership list to basically call into question and I guess you

00:06:29.640 could say criticize over 14,000 conservative party of Canada members for daring Andrew for having the

00:06:35.800 audacity to donate to the freedom convo when it did so when they did so I mean it's just one of those

00:06:41.220 one of those bizarre articles where you'd almost not want to be defended by a Warren Kinsella article

00:06:46.540 like this it's it is in my opinion an indictment of your true conservatism as we said

00:06:51.400 let let me jump in on that because I don't know if he crunched the numbers himself or if someone gave

00:06:57.840 him the numbers but either way you're talking about leaked data from the membership list which

00:07:02.520 is very tightly guarded or supposed to be very tightly guarded certainly campaigns have had access

00:07:07.240 to it but why does that make it out to Warren Kinsella what what is he on a campaign was this

00:07:13.680 leaked to him as the media did he just get these numbers that someone else crunched or did he actually

00:07:18.220 have the membership list and do this himself I don't know one way or another but I'm looking at

00:07:23.140 this and he says most of the donations made in secret were I don't know what the made in secret

00:07:28.360 means does it mean that you didn't like rent a blimp and advertise that you donated to the freedom

00:07:32.460 convoy like it's trying to infer that there is some something dirty or icky about what's happened

00:07:37.280 but I go back first and foremost to the credibility question because here's what he said

00:07:41.720 Brown wasn't merely one of the front runners in the race he was legitimately the candidate an

00:07:47.220 increasing number of insiders considered the likely winner of the race he had signed up tens of

00:07:53.040 thousands of supporters so I look I think there was a path to victory for Patrick Brown I think he

00:07:59.740 there was a way that he could have won but that I've never heard an insider say he was the likely

00:08:06.100 winner it's that he could win if this thing happened he could so I think that also speaks to how out of

00:08:12.120 touch he is with the party well it is and of course there's always an opportunity for the second place

00:08:19.140 or perhaps the second favorite to win it's sort of like in the leadership race if you're the second

00:08:23.780 favorite you're kind of quietly the favorite because of how the ranked ballot system works and how it

00:08:28.640 all kind of gets tracked across the country so of course at the beginning there was an opportunity

00:08:33.100 for Patrick Brown to win people have recognized that he has a particular set of skills when it comes to

00:08:39.120 organization and when it comes to signing up memberships everybody knew that that was uh you

00:08:44.480 know he was his candidacy was certainly not to be taken lightly I thought you were on Liam Neeson

00:08:48.560 there for a second he's got a he's got a particular set of skills yeah exactly he but but you know he

00:08:54.560 it was the sort of thing where he did have a shot at winning but like you said it wasn't a

00:09:00.480 there's a clear favorite in the race and there's sort of a clear second place um and that was obvious

00:09:06.460 from the beginning so to make this grand statement as though Patrick Brown was was up there with Pierre

00:09:11.560 Polyev and was was a potentially you know an easy winner is ridiculous but I mean we saw some we saw

00:09:18.120 some hilarious takes on the Patrick Brown campaign throughout this short but exciting window and I

00:09:23.740 will say this about Patrick Brown he does have a way Andrew at part of one of his skills is not making

00:09:30.100 politics so boring he does have a way of of kind of throwing some spice into politics these days every time

00:09:35.780 he's involved there's usually something that happens and uh but you know we've got we've got

00:09:40.080 some hilarious takes throughout throughout his short leadership campaign and I thought the best one

00:09:45.060 probably of them all Andrew was Charles Adler the former radio host I don't know if he still has a

00:09:50.400 radio show he might but I'm not sure he wrote on Twitter uh when was this this was in March I believe

00:09:56.700 yes it was in March when Michelle Rumpelgarner became national chair or co-chair of Patrick Brown's

00:10:02.940 campaign and she obviously left that post a few weeks ago but when she announced that she was 0.94

00:10:07.500 joining the campaign Charles Adler wrote on Twitter welcome to the worst day of Pierre Polyev's career

00:10:13.140 uh and I have to say no no you're you you've misquoted him it's welcome to the worst day of

00:10:18.940 hashtag Pierre Polyev's career yeah not even an at sign he's been devoted to a hashtag hashtag Pierre

00:10:25.400 Polyev's career I mean that uh that's gonna live on for quite a while I think Andrew

00:10:29.860 yeah and it's funny and here's a guy and and I you know for years and years listened to Charles

00:10:36.400 Adler as someone starting out in talk radio I've appeared on his show and it's been very difficult

00:10:41.760 to see his descent into just complete insanity on Twitter taking place in real time and again here's

00:10:49.100 one where he put he positions himself as being this grand oracle that is the true insider that knows

00:10:56.840 everything that knows the party that knows conservatism and he thought that I mean again

00:11:02.040 there's there's a lot that's wrong with this apart from the hashtag so he thought that uh Pierre Polyev

00:11:07.300 was going to be quaking in his boots that Michelle Rumpelgarner joined Patrick Brown's campaign and

00:11:12.100 somehow all of those three people the only one remaining in involved in the leadership race is

00:11:17.720 Pierre Polyev uh so Michelle Rumpelgarner's gone Patrick Brown is gone Pierre Polyev's still there so

00:11:23.440 his career seemed to have withstood Charles Adler's tweet which means I think we need to

00:11:27.920 reevaluate this uh self-description by Uncle Chuck ah yeah there it is legend yeah I think I think when

00:11:34.720 he's we got to demote him maybe hashtag Charles Adler is all he gets now yeah hashtag hashtag young

00:11:41.080 legend or or working his way up might be better but he certainly he certainly lost the status of being a

00:11:46.120 true legend a self-proclaimed legend that is yeah it's I I this is perhaps weird because I'm digging back

00:11:52.280 into the archives on this one this is 2019 but if we want to say because there are a lot of people

00:11:56.940 that used to listen to Charles Adler that would think he's the prime example of being a conservative

00:12:01.320 so I feel it I would be remiss to not show that the thought of the conservative party literally brings

00:12:08.600 him to tears now I want to get a little personal here with Charles Adler everyone now Charles you have

00:12:14.300 you know deep conservative roots and you've you've kind of um adopted some of the some of the when we

00:12:21.880 come to talk about social issues and things like that maybe more of a different leaning how what was

00:12:26.740 your come to center moment was it this campaign no it was it was the last one it was the uh the

00:12:31.160 barbarian hotline it was the uh flirting with with Islamophobia uh I don't even like to discuss it

00:12:36.960 uh because it sickens me party that I uh supported for a number of years turned on my neighbors on my

00:12:53.820 brothers my sisters my fellow Canadians and that's been sorry it's been difficult and I am a fiscal

00:13:03.460 conservative small business conservative pro pipeline conservative but I I can't go to that

00:13:10.940 other side of the the moon it's the dark side of the moon I can't I can't go there talk to me about

00:13:16.020 this campaign though what did you see here that that bothered you well what what I saw in this

00:13:20.880 particular campaign uh was a leader who was highly scripted who couldn't tell people how he genuinely

00:13:29.180 felt about some of these social issues couldn't genuinely say that yes I I I'm a faithful catholic

00:13:36.540 and this these are my catholic beliefs I'm proud of my church I'm proud of my beliefs but I'm proud

00:13:41.760 to be Canadian and I'm proud to abide by the rule of law and I'd be darn proud to be your prime minister

00:13:47.180 and my number one task would be to enforce the laws of Canada not to enforce the dogmas of the catholic

00:13:53.960 church that could not possibly be difficult for Andrew Scheer to say he's a very smart person

00:13:58.740 if he can't say that he's missing an element of leadership character and on the one hand it's

00:14:08.380 Justin Trudeau has no moral authority Justin Trudeau has no moral authority take charge and have some

00:14:13.280 moral authority yourself over the most important issues to many people who aren't voting conservative

00:14:19.040 all right it's clearly an emotional subject for him I don't want to I don't want to exploit the

00:14:25.420 man's grief but let's not hold him up as the oracle of conservatism that's all yeah I mean if if if Pat

00:14:32.760 if Charles Adler was crying about the 2019 federal election result I'm I'm I shudder at the thought

00:14:39.740 about what he's doing looking back on his now failed prediction about the Michelle Rumpelgarna joining

00:14:45.200 Patrick Brown's campaign as the worst day of his career uh he must be quite emotional about that

00:14:50.660 these days as well yeah certainly that is the case let's take a turn to uh this is I think an

00:14:58.000 interesting story and there's a story beneath the story here so you may have seen this week a CBC

00:15:03.200 reported on this uh story about new military dress standards that hair coloring face tattoos will be

00:15:10.440 permitted under new military dress rules now I would say there's nothing more professional

00:15:15.020 than a member of the armed forces with a giant face tattoo like just think of Mike Tyson

00:15:19.860 at CFB Borden doing push-ups like that is the quintessential Canadian experience right there

00:15:25.340 but what I find interesting is that CBC readers learned about this on July 5th 2022

00:15:31.100 Harrison spiked the football here when did True North readers learn about this

00:15:35.120 April 14th so CBC is only just a little late Andrew they're only just a few months late

00:15:41.040 to this story about the military True North broke the story months ago and to anyone's well to

00:15:48.640 everyone's surprise Andrew the CBC failed to mention True North failed to credit True North for breaking

00:15:53.980 the story months earlier it might be because they're just embarrassed about their lack of of serious

00:15:58.820 journalism they're they're they must be embarrassed about the fact that they just can't seem to stay on

00:16:03.400 top of the news yeah and this is not exclusively a problem that affects True North the CBC is kind of

00:16:10.740 notorious for this and they have so much funding they have so many staff they have so many resources

00:16:15.740 they have a level of funding that most commercial newsrooms in this country would kill for

00:16:20.580 yet they still rely so heavily on the work done by other newsrooms done by reporters for post media

00:16:27.800 for the Toronto Star and increasingly for a lot of independent and local outlets too well what good

00:16:34.200 is a public broadcaster a broadcaster that the the only job of that broadcaster is to give Canadians

00:16:40.780 the news what good is it if a small group like we are at True North are beating CBC months early to a

00:16:48.840 story that is news at the time and only that the CBC only reports as news once the government itself

00:16:55.080 pushes out the press release I mean it's it's journalism by press release for the CBC it's been that way for

00:17:00.040 years now and they're really not doing anything uh to give Canadians value all you really have to do at

00:17:06.600 this point is abandon the CBC and just basically look at watch True North watch other alternative media sites

00:17:13.000 because not only uh is the CBC not getting their news from us because if they were they'd be quicker

00:17:18.040 it wouldn't it wouldn't take them months to write our story they're waiting on the government to release the news

00:17:22.840 so if the CBC isn't going to release the news they're not going to do it before the government

00:17:27.320 press release writes it for them then what good what good is there and and we've seen the CBC do this

00:17:33.080 constantly True North wrote a story in February uh about the NDP an NDP candidate using homophobic slurs

00:17:40.440 in promoting Antifa and the CBC took our story posted it a few days later then True North wrote a story

00:17:47.320 also about an NDP MP and a liberal MPs uh questioning their indigenous claims so an NDP MP calls out a

00:17:54.360 liberal MP for not being indigenous and that's sort of a Canadian Elizabeth Warren story there

00:17:58.920 we wrote that on April and then CBC takes it three or four days later and writes the same story of

00:18:04.280 course failing to credit us so we've seen it happen before we see it happen many times again it's not

00:18:10.120 going to change at this point how long do we expect or how much how much rope we want to give the

00:18:13.960 CBC to fix their act to get their you know get their get their act together it's not going to

00:18:18.840 happen so at what point Andrew do we just give up and say look these these journalists just don't

00:18:24.280 know how to do their job properly all they have to do is just read True North yeah my my interview

00:18:29.240 earlier this week with Pierre Poliev touched a little bit on CBC funding which the elimination of

00:18:34.280 has become a pretty key part of his campaign and he had said that CBC shouldn't be occupying a space

00:18:39.960 where the private sector can provide the service and in this case the private sector literally

00:18:45.000 already has provided the service by the time the CBC runs the story it's already been covered it's

00:18:50.280 already out there so I think we need to get some momentum going here where every time they steal a

00:18:54.520 story we get a refund of a certain amount of the fee that we pay to CBC and however long it takes that

00:19:01.240 they're that they're late to a story we also get a refund on that so uh we won't get all of the 1.4

00:19:06.680 billion that way but I think we might get a little bit of it I and I think that you know a lot of the

00:19:10.600 time media chases trends and there's been no greater example of this this week that I've seen

00:19:16.360 than the Canadian volunteer soldier that has been broadcasting his or her exploits in Ukraine I think

00:19:24.520 it's his but I who knows anymore with the uniform code and this Canadian Ukrainian volunteer uh has been

00:19:31.800 it's actually amazing 120 000 followers uh what the telegraph calls florid and urgent cutting through

00:19:38.760 with a boy's own adventure style uh had infiltrated the Russian occupied Kursen had gone as on a bicycle

00:19:45.720 disguised as a Russian soldier but yeah not exactly what happened here well it basically just took a

00:19:54.440 bunch of this is what happens on the internet you you just can't get away with the stuff anymore

00:19:58.040 Andrew it's it's impossible people will eventually find out and I wonder what this person thought as

00:20:02.760 he started to cross the 50 000 follower threshold the 100 000 he must have known that the gig was

00:20:09.400 going to come to an end at some point and sure enough it did a bunch of just internet sleuths and

00:20:14.520 people who are experts in body armor and firearms in all these different things that he was posting of

00:20:21.160 obviously caught wind of this guy's story and smelling that something might not be exactly right of course

00:20:26.680 they were they began investigating and one social media user identified that the rifle he was using

00:20:32.360 was fake it was an airsoft rifle I again I wonder how long this guy really thought he's going to get

00:20:36.840 away with this by using and posting photos of airsoft rifles as if as if people who know this stuff

00:20:42.680 aren't watching all the videos and condom that gets put up I mean it's it really kind of baffles

00:20:47.400 the mind that people think that today they can get away with it but of course he was caught out and so

00:20:52.200 uh this uh this person here who found out that the rifle was fake he wrote on twitter we knew this

00:20:57.720 day would come canadian ukraine at canadian ukraine one's big reveal his battle rifle yes it's all

00:21:03.960 airsoft gear let's take a look at his loadout piece by piece so they go through everything that he's

00:21:09.000 holding turns out every single thing he's holding andrew is fake what a surprise then another person who

00:21:15.480 is a director of training at an open source investigation group said that the photos of his of his dented body

00:21:21.240 armor had also been stolen so he just basically did a reverse image search of dented body armor andrew

00:21:27.080 and put it up as his own and he managed to trick over a hundred thousand people in social media it's

00:21:33.320 it's just incredible and it makes you really wonder how much of what we see is either doctored or designed

00:21:41.320 to get people to ride or just designed for people to ride the wave of the ukraine war to kind of make

00:21:47.000 themselves the heroes it's actually quite disturbing in a way and i'm sure that a ton of people are

00:21:51.400 doing this but there's there's more of this there's more sort of of this story unraveling for this guy

00:21:57.000 another person wrote in this new photo we get a good look at the chin strap and fastener

00:22:01.720 it's a plastic slide side release buckle an automatic mk7 does not utilize a plastic buckle

00:22:07.080 rather it has a loop and button only the airsoft replica you use utilizes a plastic buckle

00:22:12.520 uh and then someone decided to track his location this is the best part he's not even he doesn't even

00:22:18.280 actually try to get even get close to ukraine it turns out that he's in toronto or in ontario the

00:22:23.640 whole time andrew this person decided to track this part this uh this ukrainian canadian volunteers

00:22:29.560 location he wrote on twitter i first sourced a web article talking about canadian volunteers in

00:22:34.040 canada i used that to create a grabify link which i then masked through a link shortener and sent to

00:22:39.000 him claiming the article mentioned him and i congratulated him uh it turns out that if you

00:22:43.800 open up the link then it tracks where you open it up from turns out of course this canadian ukrainian

00:22:49.640 volunteer wasn't too smart about this open up the link sure enough he was in ontario andrew so what

00:22:55.000 a surprise there maybe he was on a break week you never know it gets very difficult he he left kurson

00:23:01.400 to come back to you know visit with the family for the long weekend in toronto or something you never

00:23:05.560 know that's it's not net circumstantial as as my my learned friends say he was given leave to see his

00:23:11.240 wife and his kids of course and then just to return back into the return back into battle i mean it's

00:23:16.440 just another story that turns out to be fake about what's going on in ukraine not to say that everything

00:23:21.160 is fake but certainly what we have seen is an information battle where we are getting inundated

00:23:26.760 with misinformation and truth and it's up to us to try and figure out what is real what isn't and that of

00:23:32.680 course leads to all these problems and and we're just seeing another one here yeah no i i think i

00:23:38.120 think you're off i think you're way off on this the guy's a legend he's clearly the charles adler of

00:23:42.440 volunteer soldiers in ukraine and no one can say otherwise you know it's it's very interesting because

00:23:48.200 just looking at the bigger picture here when we went back to the very beginning of this this is the

00:23:52.920 first time in a lot of people's lifetimes that there's been a european ground war that has taken

00:23:59.720 place what's gone on with russia and ukraine and it's the first time we've had a war of this scale

00:24:04.920 in the era of information with the internet with twitter i mean wartime propaganda is not new

00:24:10.840 but it certainly is very different and i and i was trying to do something with this on my show back

00:24:15.320 back at the beginning of all this and the one thing that we saw is that there was a right side and

00:24:21.400 a wrong side of the conflict that emerged very on and and we saw this in western media politicians it

00:24:26.840 was ukraine good russia bad i think generally speaking if nothing's black and white but i i

00:24:31.640 think the obviously russia was the the aggressor here but the one the one thing i'll say is that

00:24:36.600 when you filter it through that lens there was a lot less skepticism that was devoted to a lot of 0.99

00:24:42.600 these stories early on like there was the the stupid one that came out the ghost of kiev there 0.95

00:24:47.400 was another one that this mythology of what happened on snake island which ended up not being true 0.94

00:24:52.360 and other things as well and and truth is truth truth doesn't have an agenda as ben shapiro says

00:24:57.160 facts don't care about your feelings like the the fact that this guy did as much as he did and got as

00:25:02.680 large of an audience as he did is because he was feeding into something that people wanted they wanted

00:25:07.800 a hero story they wanted someone that was going over putting their life on the line but there are real

00:25:12.680 people doing that he just isn't one of them yeah and we tracked this on previous episodes of fake news

00:25:18.040 friday i recall when all of this kicked off months ago i think we did a whole episode on what on some

00:25:24.440 of the footage we are seeing out of ukraine because of course when you see it at first it's it's crazy

00:25:30.040 you're seeing fighter jets flying over towns and and it looks it looks totally real but it's it's video

00:25:35.720 game footage i mean how many how many pieces of footage did we see andrew that were ended up being

00:25:40.840 video game footage of a video game called arma where you know the graphics are amazing and it looks really

00:25:46.280 real it looks like an aircraft is being shot down over the skies and that was kind of used to create

00:25:51.000 the ghost of kiev they even they even got a u.s congressman duped by the ghost of kiev story which

00:25:56.200 is quite hilarious and that that'll definitely go down in the story of this conflict as a sort of a

00:26:01.160 lighter hearted moment but again one of the one of the darker sides of this was that we were seeing

00:26:07.000 on both sides a concerted effort to try and mislead people by using completely fake footage or even using

00:26:13.560 old footage i mean there were there was footage of i remember there was footage of a young girl

00:26:18.280 yelling in the face of what was supposed to be a russian soldier an invading russian soldier and

00:26:23.160 that turned out to be a clip from from israel years ago but nonetheless it didn't it didn't get

00:26:28.360 called out until it had been seen by millions of people and there were these emotional videos of

00:26:33.880 supposedly of ukrainian soldiers saying goodbye to their family and friends and that ended up being

00:26:38.920 movie footage i mean we we've seen so much of this and i think that over time this is going to be used

00:26:45.240 by by more and more governments in times of conflict i mean it's quite a useful tool you can

00:26:49.480 basically convince the western world the the world on social media of something that may or may not

00:26:54.280 actually be happening clearly uh what we saw like you said was a was an effort to make things look black

00:27:00.200 and white was an effort to make things or convince people that things were a certain way and uh i think

00:27:05.080 that's just a factor in a reality we all have to come to realize that you know this is what's going

00:27:09.480 to happen now going forward in all of these conflicts that it's up to us to kind of sharpen

00:27:14.760 our skills at deciphering what's real and what's fake and be a bit more skeptical about what we see

00:27:19.480 because i mean this is just another example of someone who tried to get away with it and eventually

00:27:24.200 got caught yeah and also harrison's a deep fake well yes exactly you you never know even even

00:27:30.440 with true north you got to be skeptical about what you see i guess these days i'm not one to judge i

00:27:34.200 went to a deep fake abba concert so but that's a topic for another day yeah no it wasn't even a

00:27:40.920 hologram it was worse than that it was a video deep fake but again where i'm not i'm not fake

00:27:44.360 newsing myself on this fake news friday uh harrison faulkner and yours truly andrew lawton standing in

00:27:49.800 for candace malcolm here hope you all have a fabulous fantastic wonderful weekend we will talk

00:27:55.800 to you next friday with the best and brightest of the fake news from around the globe and the country

00:28:00.440 i guess the globe includes the country so take from that what you will uh but we'll have a

00:28:04.120 good have a good one everyone we'll talk to you soon

00:28:09.160 you

Juno News - July 08, 2022

The CBC steals another True North story

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