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00:00:29.220 so you'll never miss an episode or any of our news stories okay well welcome to uh friday happy

00:00:35.860 friday guys and uh i i want to start by talking about what harrison was just alluding to this hour

00:00:42.020 has 22 minutes which is one of the one of the cringiest shows on television and it's been on

00:00:47.500 television for a long long time and it's just surprising that it's still around it kind of

00:00:51.060 disappears and then it comes back i don't know if they have a weekly show or not but this one kind

00:00:55.540 of caught my eye so they had a journalist i believe it was out in halifax and uh basically

00:01:00.820 this guy went to a pierre poly of conservative rally to try to i don't know clash with pierre or

00:01:06.980 own pierre uh it was a pretty sad feeble attempt so let's uh let's watch that video and uh then

00:01:12.740 we'll see what i tried to get pierre to notice me by playing it cool

00:01:16.100 but i did have to stand in line with my fellow patriots wow pierre poly of such an honor to meet

00:01:25.380 my name is dan i'm with 22 minutes it's so nice to meet you canada's next prime minister and laser

00:01:30.740 eye surgery success story congratulations i think you're doing an amazing job if it was up to me you'd be

00:01:36.260 the leader of the opposition for the rest of your life well i won't be sadly for you and and and you

00:01:41.700 and your and your but you know what uh you'll have to earn a living rather than getting it from uh

00:01:47.300 taxpayers money i love that you're cracking down on crime all right i love that you're cracking down

00:01:52.020 on murderers thieves cbc journalists i love that you're cracking down on axing the tax why your ratings

00:01:58.580 are so terrible all right no i think that's heartland listen okay thank you sir here we love you pierre

00:02:06.260 so i don't i don't see much of a difference between the cbc here and like what the rebel

00:02:11.700 does sometimes like i i just you know they show up at an event crash event at least conservatives let

00:02:16.020 them in the door and they let him get that close to pierre poly of uh not much of a comedy routine

00:02:22.020 there andrew what's your take well they didn't know they let him because they didn't know who he

00:02:25.940 was because he just looked like some random guy it's brutal because it's like that old marg

00:02:30.820 delahunty bit or marge delahunty bit that ezra levant actually back at sun news just did the best

00:02:37.620 like parody of that i've ever seen we'll have to play that on a future episode but the bit is just

00:02:42.900 going up there and then being there it's not actually like they thought through the process

00:02:48.180 of what you say when you get there uh the only thing kind of resembling a joke was you're cracking

00:02:54.020 down on thieves and murderers in the cbc which is kind of an endorsement to be honest of pierre poly of

00:03:01.140 my only dislike is that pierre who was always so quick-witted he flubbed this line that he was about

00:03:07.780 to give at some point where he's like well uh you and you're and he he just couldn't kind of couldn't

00:03:12.740 sum so he he pivoted because he couldn't come up with what he was going to say so but it was just

00:03:16.580 an awkward cringy exchange and it won't be funny at all until 22 minutes puts in the laugh track

00:03:24.100 well you know what it seemed as though i disagree with you andrew because i thought the better joke

00:03:28.100 was the laser eye surgery success story it feels like he had that one lined up oh yeah yeah yeah

00:03:32.900 yeah he had two lines you're right he had that one lined up he was like this is i'm going to deliver

00:03:37.540 this to pierre it's going to be great and then and then when the response came the mask slipped

00:03:42.420 right he just he just kind of went back into activist mode he went back to being a cbc employee

00:03:46.740 he had his joke set up and then it just kind of went downhill from there he goes oh you're

00:03:50.900 cracking down on cbc journalists why you do that but it was too bad i wish pierre had a

00:03:56.180 stronger delivery but you know it's just it's a classic moment the guy can't even hold his

00:04:01.140 hold his character the mask slipped and he went back to activist mode no that's so true and they

00:04:05.860 make this story all about themselves it's like you think like the average person sitting at home is

00:04:09.860 like the thing they're worried about uh pierre polyev is like oh he's cracking down on murderers

00:04:14.100 and cbc journalists like i i don't think that even people watching cbc in 22 minutes

00:04:19.300 are concerned about his apparent supposed crackdown meanwhile they let them in the room i mean andrew

00:04:24.980 you say that they just thought he was a regular guy but he he had a camera crew did he not i i looked

00:04:29.700 like it was just cell phone video okay well then if you walk in with a broadcast like cbc camera

00:04:39.780 they'll just be there right they'll be there regardless so they can bring a second camera

00:04:43.860 with the cbc logo and film it and they wouldn't know any different yeah well i mean i i i mean

00:04:49.860 it's not a news production it would be one of their their their uh tv like their um entertainment or

00:04:55.220 or entertainment productions but i one thing i'll say though i would love to find out how much because

00:05:01.540 those photo lines stretch on for hours and actra union wages are not small so i'd love to know how

00:05:09.220 much that actor got paid in overtime just to like stand in the photo line and we're and be at the pierre

00:05:14.820 polyev rally yeah you should do an atav andrew we should find out yeah we'll see i know it's a it's

00:05:20.260 a private production company that does it that's how they get around it but i'll see if there's something

00:05:23.860 we can figure out there no it's interesting i mean look i i i i think that the fact that they

00:05:29.220 sent a comedian to go in there and try to get under pierre skin he handled it pretty well right he had

00:05:33.780 he had a good comeback you know the fact that the guy's like openly partisan saying you know you're

00:05:37.940 a conservative and i hope you remain the opposition leader forever like you know you're a cbc journalist

00:05:43.620 you're not really supposed to be partisan like telling someone i hope you lose the election and if it

00:05:47.620 were up to me you'd always be in opposition uh to the conservatives uh but you know the fact that

00:05:52.980 pierre laughed that off and had a response i i think he did fairly well and i i would normally

00:05:58.260 just say that the cbc is is uber biased and that they only pick on conservatives uh but i think this

00:06:03.700 might have been the first time at least that i've seen the cbc actually took a run at justin trudeau

00:06:09.700 and surprisingly they actually captured him pretty well captured his essence uh pretty well so this

00:06:13.780 was a clip that i believe came out uh this year march 13 so this is a week old now uh but let's see

00:06:18.660 how the same uh group 22 minutes mocked prime minister justin trudeau i don't care about housing

00:06:25.860 or pharma care or any of that stuff the only thing i care about is being liked why is that so off-putting

00:06:34.180 it doesn't seem to matter where i go they say f trudeau no one's ever satisfied oh i i'm a simple man

00:06:50.820 without a spine don't bring up palestine voters are running to the right should i step aside or fight 0.65

00:07:02.820 because i'm just in everyone says i'm a has-been is it my legacy to overspend and ravage the economy

00:07:17.780 harrison what's your reaction to that when i was watching that i was just thinking

00:07:22.180 we need we need like a private comedian comedy organization to actually do this job right there

00:07:28.980 shouldn't be in the cbc there should be there should be a company that is doing this because

00:07:33.060 the the material there is endless we've had eight nine years it'll be of this guy giving up just

00:07:39.220 absolute perfect opportunities throwing softballs to comedians and yet the only group that is doing

00:07:44.660 this is cbc so i just watched this thinking it's okay but you know we should we should we should have

00:07:51.780 had think at least four or five a year of these great great uh uh you know comedy sketches about

00:07:59.140 trudeau and if it was a private company they probably would have done a good job uh but this

00:08:03.940 is all we get so you know i guess we'll take what we get i don't know so i i actually have the solution

00:08:09.540 to this uh to the bad comedy writing at cbc what they need to do is reallocate resources so we have

00:08:16.420 talked about on not on this show but on other shows at true north this cbc series called first

00:08:21.540 person where they bring in these submitted contributions from people in canada one of

00:08:27.620 them losing at gambling didn't deter me because i held on to hope that i would strike the jackpot

00:08:33.460 someday one of them i haven't cut my hair in 13 years it's an act of defiance and connecting with

00:08:40.100 my african roots another one here canada is winter with our warming climate i feel like i'm losing a part

00:08:47.860 of me they just need to get their first person contributors brought on to their writing because

00:08:52.980 this is real comedy here not the stuff 22 minutes is doing this is where the laughs are at cbc

00:08:59.940 no you're right it's it's it's funnier if you just read it all as satire on the entire site the

00:09:04.900 entire website uh but but i mean look i think for 22 minutes they did a pretty good job i think that trudeau

00:09:12.020 at his core he's a narcissist and he's shallow and he doesn't want to think deeply about issues he just

00:09:16.260 wants to be liked and loved and i you know for those of us who are critical of trudeau we've seen

00:09:21.380 this about him from day one and it's like you know it took the cbc like eight years to conjure the the

00:09:27.700 courage uh to depict him in this way which which i think at least you know the video is cringy and i

00:09:34.580 didn't i didn't like the fact that the guy didn't have a shirt on that was repulsive but uh you know

00:09:39.380 overall it was pretty pretty pretty good pretty funny your point though if i can do the worst thing

00:09:45.940 possible which is just try to make a serious you know philosophical point about something that's

00:09:50.580 supposed to be funny there is a lot of truth to the fact that cbc did wait so long because comedy

00:09:56.580 used to be the biggest anti-establishment tool that you could have in your arsenal it's the way that you

00:10:02.500 take aim at authority you punch up and what cbc and i would say a lot of mainstream comedians are

00:10:09.700 doing now is the opposite they want comedy to be a vehicle for whatever the establishment position is so

00:10:15.780 now that it's unpopular in canada to like justin trudeau they'll decide to poke some fun at justin

00:10:21.940 trudeau but when where where were they when it was i i don't want to be too dramatic to say brave or

00:10:26.820 courageous but where were they when it was you know going against the grain to do that yeah you're right

00:10:32.660 they know like all journalists must must know this about trudeau even his staff that the best way to

00:10:39.300 get under his skin would be to make fun of him to mock him right and to mock him on a with a larger

00:10:43.780 audience so they had they had the opportunity to do this and i think we would have been better served

00:10:48.740 if we if they had been doing this obviously we would have been better served if they had been doing

00:10:51.700 this for years because that would be the best way to get under his skin to actually make something

00:10:56.980 happen with justin trudeau is to just continuously mock him you know the americans did that with trump

00:11:02.500 for every day until they basically ruined their own careers these stand-up comedians and these

00:11:06.740 late night talk show hosts the material was endless every single day you could have made you could have

00:11:12.260 made a hilarious video about trudeau over the past eight years and they just weren't able to do it but

00:11:18.020 that would that would have been the best way to actually get under his skin right well tucker

00:11:22.580 carlson made this point when he spoke i believe it was in calgary and he just said you know the the people 0.99

00:11:27.300 who lead your country canadians are so absurd and so ridiculous they deserve to be mocked and that's 0.98

00:11:31.700 how you maintain some power over them because that's the one thing that they can't handle and 0.99

00:11:35.940 and i look back at you know again just not not to be too serious about it but you look back at saturday

00:11:41.060 night live in the history of that show one of the components has always been mocking the president

00:11:45.140 making fun of the president and then in 2008 when barack obama was elected they just didn't know what to do

00:11:49.620 and they had to completely abandon that and they stopped mocking him and it's like brock obama is a pretty

00:11:53.220 mockable character he you know you can make fun of him he has a very distinct way of speaking you know

00:11:57.700 he he he he's kind of out of touch in so many ways it's it's easy to make fun of him but they never did

00:12:03.140 they they refused to right and then and then all of a sudden trump came in and they went like really

00:12:07.780 over the top with their with their depictions of him i think alec baldwin was basically brought in

00:12:12.820 full time to be their like trumpet personator and in some ways it was like endearing to to some people

00:12:18.180 to see the way that trump was was depicted and and then the snl got like blamed for being too

00:12:24.180 like making like humanizing trump face it and and then now you have joe biden in the white house

00:12:29.140 who's just a total like everything about it is a farce it's it's like the most hilarious thing that

00:12:34.340 you can imagine this like senile old confused man in the white house and they're kind of like

00:12:38.900 you know they barely they barely touch it they barely go after him so i you know i i think i think

00:12:43.780 that the the comedy as you as you pointed out harrison the whole comedy field has has shown

00:12:48.900 their true colors that they're just partisan hacks they're not really comedians that are there to you

00:12:53.380 know put uh poke against uh power and uh you know do say the uncomfortable things that we want

00:12:59.460 comedians to say yeah and not to make it too american of course but i just found that especially

00:13:05.380 snl's coverage after the state of the union was really telling right they had they had biden they

00:13:10.740 biden made his own gaffes in the speech but they basically spent the entire uh saturday night live

00:13:15.140 episode going after the republican response video because that in itself was cringy and absurd as

00:13:19.620 well but again it's as you say they show their colors these comedians can't really uh they can't

00:13:25.940 really be trusted to to do an honest job and that's why i think we need to have we need to have like

00:13:31.220 where's the second city guys doing videos about justin trudeau or the other comedians in our country

00:13:35.700 we used to be good our country used to be known for having some of the best comedians and

00:13:40.500 there's just so much material there for trudeau i wish we had this for the past eight years

00:13:44.500 have you guys seen just totally off topic but have you seen any of the israeli uh sat like kind

00:13:49.940 of the israeli version of 22 minutes their clips mocking like hamas and the media's treatment of

00:13:55.140 hamas like that's real comedy if you haven't seen any of that take a look into some of those clips

00:13:59.380 yeah no those are those are fine some ways are more effective than the ones that are giving you a

00:14:02.820 lecture because they just show how absurd the coverage is uh one of the things i liked about the 22

00:14:08.420 minutes clip though is is that they they showed this side of justin trudeau uh that is obviously

00:14:13.940 true that people in his inner circle people know him know about him which is that he's kind of like

00:14:18.340 unhappy with being prime minister right now and it was really telling they put out that clip again on

00:14:22.660 march 13th and then on march 18th i know both of you fellows covered this on your shows uh but there

00:14:27.860 was an interview that justin trudeau did speaking in french but he basically just said he thinks about

00:14:33.460 quitting and that his job is crazy and that it's boring and he doesn't like it and and basically

00:14:39.140 that it's just like a huge personal sacrifice for him to be prime minister and he just doesn't even

00:14:43.140 know if he wants to do it anymore which it to me is like really you know because when i look at him

00:14:48.340 i see a power hungry tyrant who will like clench to power until like the day he's removed from the

00:14:52.180 throne uh but but apparently his other side uh that that just feels sad and doesn't want to do anymore

00:14:58.340 andrew what do you think no i to be honest it's he's very relatable and i i realized in that

00:15:03.060 interview how much i have in common with him because i also think about him quitting every day

00:15:08.260 okay good i thought you were gonna say you think you're quitting trudeau i was like wait no you can't

00:15:12.180 no no i i think that it was bizarre and the point that i took on it not to belabor the stuff i shared on

00:15:18.500 my show but was that his permanent orientation is that he is the victim and that he can do no wrong so

00:15:26.180 when there's you know a black face it's a community learning opportunity for the whole country when

00:15:32.020 it's snc lavalin it's well the story in the globe and mail was false like anything that comes up

00:15:37.140 uh he is the the child that can point to someone else and find a reason why they did it and not him

00:15:43.060 and i think this is really an extension of that because what he's doing here he's saying that he's

00:15:47.380 the victim he is the victim he is the prime minister of canada he has had effectively unfettered

00:15:53.380 reign over this country for eight years and he is still somehow a victim in that

00:16:00.740 i've had some time to think about this uh i talked to i talked about it on my show as well

00:16:05.380 and at first i assumed that it was like a classic trudeau kind of gaff moment that he just said what

00:16:10.660 was in his head and didn't realize what it meant and how crazy it is to say that about being a minister

00:16:17.220 but now i've come to realize that i think it was an intentional i think i think he meant it

00:16:21.540 intentionally i think it was an effort to try to appear you know relatable and human to canadians

00:16:26.260 and say yeah you know this is a job that sometimes i think about quitting because then he said after

00:16:30.740 but i can't quit because the fight is too important the climate fight the women's rights fight is too

00:16:35.620 important now if that was intentional i'm not going to give him the credit to say that he came up with

00:16:40.660 that himself that was probably one of his genius communications advisors who said yeah you should

00:16:45.220 you should make this the new communications line that you're just like canadians and you think about

00:16:49.540 leaving your crazy job every day if that was intentional that is the worst communications

00:16:54.900 strategy ever deployed i think i mean how can you end up on the side of 70 of canadians who want you 1.00

00:17:00.900 to resign when you say you think about quitting every day it's just it's just so pathetic and weak

00:17:06.900 and i i really believe that he did it intentionally yeah he's gonna be good i was thinking about that too 0.77

00:17:12.020 harrison sorry if i was cutting off there but it's like you know this is this is a government that is

00:17:16.020 incredibly disciplined when it comes to messages right it's like justin trudeau will repeat the

00:17:20.260 same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again and the cabinet won't answer

00:17:24.180 questions like they'll be asked a question and they'll just say something totally different that

00:17:27.540 has nothing to do with questions like everything they do is deliberate everything they do is like

00:17:31.460 been run through the spun machine spin machine and been poll tested and and then and then seeing this

00:17:36.420 kind of moment of vulnerability from the from prime minister i i think you're right i think that the idea was

00:17:41.460 that like we're supposed to feel sorry for him and that he's showing vulnerability and that he's a

00:17:45.860 real person and that we should have some empathy for him or something like that i i i think it was

00:17:50.420 intentional uh andrew final word to you no i think that you're right that it's deliberate it wasn't an

00:17:57.220 off-the-cuff thing i one of the bigger trends i think is that he is farming he's always far more candid

00:18:02.020 in french than in english like it's and i i wonder if it's deliberate because he knows that it's harder to

00:18:07.300 play the clip uh or in this case we had fighting between you know a pmo staffer and other people

00:18:12.820 about what the translation was of his comment but the the thing like even his comments in 2021 about

00:18:19.780 you know the unvaccinated and being racist misogynist those were in french his comments here

00:18:25.140 in french and obviously it's a bilingual country sometimes clips are going to be in both languages

00:18:29.380 but it seems like he's far more candid when he's speaking to french journalists yeah i don't know if

00:18:34.180 that's because he's more comfortable in french or if that is like you're saying like he knows

00:18:38.260 that it can't be spun in the english media but but yeah there was a weird there was a weird element

00:18:42.180 that he used the word plat uh which in quebec slang and it can either mean boring or like disappointing

00:18:49.620 and so a bbc article originally said that he said that it was boring to be prime minister and then

00:18:54.100 i guess pmo yelled at them and they changed it to it's challenging to be prime minister which i don't

00:18:58.900 think the plot is a translation of challenging but in interesting uh that that that was that

00:19:05.300 that was something that came out of it yeah yeah everybody everybody in the comments in my video

00:19:09.700 these these quebecers they're like no he said it was boring like that that word means boring and if 1.00

00:19:14.820 you take it if you take it like directly that's what it means so to assume that the bbc were being you

00:19:20.820 know malicious in their translation you know intentionally trying to get big clicks out of this i don't think

00:19:26.660 they did that all they did was take the direct translation which is it is super boring you

00:19:31.860 know it's not that it's super tough that's what it means so i mean this is a classic spin job this is

00:19:37.540 i feel i said i felt bad for the communication staffers because they came up with this strategy

00:19:42.180 and then they had to work overtime all night on friday all weekend trying to make it seem as though

00:19:47.780 you know bbc was intentionally to us translate oh and say he thought it was super boring what it means

00:19:54.820 like that's what you said yeah and and even just to take that a little deeper it's like

00:20:00.180 how could you think that the prime minister's job is boring like you know it requires so much work to

00:20:05.380 understand like all the different elements of the federal government and keep on top of all

00:20:09.380 the things that are happening with your cabinet and your objectives and all of caucus like it's a huge

00:20:14.900 huge job so if you're finding it boring you know you're not doing it right um uh not what we're

00:20:21.380 seeing andrew i want you to take it over from here because uh there was a a cartoon that got

00:20:25.620 posted that probably shouldn't have um that tells us something pretty ugly uh about our our willingness

00:20:31.620 to uh go down sort of racist tropes uh yeah go ahead i think we're probably running late on time so i'll

00:20:38.260 i won't spend too much on this uh but there was we talked earlier about trudeau being more candid with

00:20:43.620 french media i think quebec media itself is also far more candid about uh where its priorities are

00:20:49.780 there was this cartoon in la presse yesterday that or may might have been two days ago that was uh looking

00:20:57.380 at netanyahu and depicting him as nosferatu uh nosfen yahoo now which is you may think okay well it's a

00:21:07.380 vampire yeah that's a little a little much but uh the jews as vampires trope is actually a long-standing

00:21:14.020 bit of anti-semitic propaganda that goes back to effectively nazi germany and even earlier and uh

00:21:20.020 this is basically as directly and explicitly anti-semitic as you can get now political cartoons

00:21:26.980 obviously are not meant to be nice and some are going to be a little bit more edgy but this just went

00:21:32.180 far beyond uh any of that and again this is not a censorship discussion no one's saying they don't have

00:21:37.220 a legal right to do that we're talking about questions of of taste would they ever depict uh

00:21:42.420 you know a muslim leader like that would they ever depict uh someone of that uh religion like that 0.99

00:21:48.020 the answer is no but jews are fair game and i think webeck is certainly taking that up now uh they did

00:21:53.940 apologize for this but the apology is always uh a little bit thin when it comes after something has

00:22:00.580 gone through as many layers i mean even true north which is a scrappy little upstart we have a couple

00:22:05.700 of layers on everything that we publish uh these legacy media outlets have even more so the the

00:22:10.980 number of people that would have seen that uh either approved the idea or approved the cartoon hit

00:22:15.780 publish upload on it is significant here i don't really think the apology means all that much well

00:22:22.500 yeah it's it's always like a team effort to put it out and then they manage to like find one person

00:22:26.260 to blame uh when when they're taking it down but this seems to happen with some frequency in the media

00:22:31.780 all over the world i know al jazeera frequently publishes cartoons uh that just seem to to really

00:22:37.700 depict jews in like a physically negative way and i i wasn't personally aware of the the vampire uh

00:22:44.340 connection but you know once you read a little bit about it you're like okay that's that's pretty obvious

00:22:48.900 and it doesn't take a lot of research to find it so why didn't someone in the higher ups of one of

00:22:54.980 these organizations you know stop it i i i i just yeah find it very off-putting well yeah and andrew

00:23:02.420 the point you make about how they would never depict a muslim like this the muslim leader like this

00:23:06.820 is obviously important because we know the fact we know the truth they wouldn't right but for israelis

00:23:13.140 for netanyahu you know netanyahu's made mistakes he's he's very open and and he you know there's a lot

00:23:19.780 to criticize netanyahu about plenty but the reality is they would never do this they would never depict

00:23:25.700 a muslim leader like this and i think that's something that needs to be discussed that's that's

00:23:29.780 that's the reality here well we know why they wouldn't depict a muslim leader like that because 0.97

00:23:35.380 muslims would be having none of it and there would be riots and there'd probably be blood uh spilt over 1.00

00:23:41.220 it so journalists have learned their lesson to be uh sufficiently afraid of offending muslims but 0.99

00:23:47.220 jews to andrews pointer are still completely fair game uh let's let's move on harrison you you wanted

00:23:52.820 to show us some of these um clips that have gone viral over the last few days here in canada yeah

00:23:58.500 if you have any if you have any issues or are you paying attention to the mass immigration debacle 1.00

00:24:04.020 that has taken over our country and is destroying our our working class jobs basically take a look at 1.00

00:24:09.860 this because we've seen we've done videos on this before but i have to show you this lineup for a

00:24:15.060 warehouse job outside of an lcbo i think it's in london ontario take a look at this this is just this

00:24:21.380 is just what we've been seeing now basically at any of these minimum wage warehouse style jobs you know

00:24:28.820 service industry jobs look at this you have international students and temporary foreign workers

00:24:34.660 lining up as far as the eye can see to try and get these jobs now we we can go into we can go into all

00:24:40.820 the details behind this but the reality is we've talked about it at length before in all of our

00:24:45.060 shows this is just getting out of hand um this is obviously getting out of hand the people who come

00:24:50.100 to this country don't expect this is what they're going to end up having to do and it's also having

00:24:54.420 a serious impact on canadians candace i know you've talked about this recently in an interview what were

00:24:59.220 your thoughts when you saw that video uh they don't know how to cue they you know they're pushing each

00:25:04.180 other it's like that's not how you this is canada it's a civilized country you cannot push people

00:25:07.780 while you're waiting in line i've i remember i was traveling once in in eastern europe and i was

00:25:12.660 waiting to get on a train and all of a sudden like people started kind of like cutting in front of me

00:25:17.300 and i was like what is going on like the people like the fact that we have orderly lines in canada

00:25:22.100 is like a very western thing i think and then as soon as you kind of step into other parts of the world

00:25:26.740 you realize that they don't have they don't have the same basic decorum of like you know whoever comes

00:25:31.140 the next person goes next next person goes next and seeing seeing those people push to get in i was like

00:25:35.780 oh i'm glad i'm not there uh on on a serious uh deeper level though i mean i think that both of

00:25:41.060 these these jobs are required people that don't really speak english right their warehouse jobs or

00:25:46.180 fixing tires or something like that uh i think it's a huge problem the fact that we have so many young

00:25:50.020 people that i i believe that those people are immigrants or international students uh maybe they're

00:25:56.340 all canadians i don't know but it just it just strikes me as not a good sign when you have that many

00:26:01.860 young men who don't have jobs who want jobs who need money and you know there's only so few of

00:26:06.500 those kind of service jobs available in the economy and for a reason these clips are going viral right

00:26:12.260 because canadians feel feel the impact of this and when they see it they know what's actually

00:26:18.340 happening which is of course that service and service industry jobs entry-level jobs which were always

00:26:24.340 supposed to go to young canadians in high school young canadians in university to try to build up their

00:26:28.420 work experience they're no longer able to get these jobs because what's happening is people come 1.00

00:26:33.460 to this country they need they need pr points so they all flock to these jobs and their wages are

00:26:39.860 artificially lower than what they would be if they were canadian workers because employers know that

00:26:44.740 these people are desperate for jobs so they'll take anything at a lower price and what happens is

00:26:48.820 that's a domino effect when that starts happening you start to lower average wages and it's impacting

00:26:54.900 canadians and canadians are realizing that and that's why these clips are going viral because

00:26:58.180 i think i don't even think it's a pr thing i don't think these people are necessarily

00:27:02.260 sophisticated enough to understand the intricacies of our immigration system i think you know when

00:27:06.580 you let in 900 000 international students which is what trudeau did in 2023 uh you know you have

00:27:12.500 people just needing to survive because they come to canada and they don't necessarily have enough

00:27:16.980 money to survive right they think okay i'll go to canada it's a beautiful rich country i'll make some

00:27:22.020 money and then i'll be able to support myself and send money home that's just not the reality right

00:27:26.340 and just just a very fact that we have that sheer number 900 000 my guess is the majority of which

00:27:32.020 are in ontario in the gta uh is it's just to your point harrison a huge supply and demand mismatch

00:27:38.740 i'll just say one final point i studied abroad in australia when i was in school and my student visa

00:27:44.340 did not allow me to work it very implicitly said that i could not work i could only get a job on campus

00:27:51.060 and you know that i i knew that going in and i was prepared to not have a job while i was there

00:27:55.220 i was there to study but i know a lot of people who also came you know they were used to working

00:27:59.860 you know whatever campus they came from whether they were from canada or the us or europe you know

00:28:04.180 they wanted to get a job to have some spending money and they couldn't because the visa didn't

00:28:07.220 allow them in canada we don't have any such restrictions so the idea is that they can come

00:28:11.300 and study like two hours a week and then work 40 hours and and then so they come to get a job

00:28:16.500 even though they don't have a visa that's supposed to be economic they don't have a visa that's

00:28:21.860 supposed to allow them the economy it's like a loophole they just become an international student

00:28:25.540 enroll at any university and or college or trade school or any anyone most of them are a lot of

00:28:31.140 them are scams um and and then you have this kind of huge overflow of people trying to get like very

00:28:37.140 low low low scale jobs and it's it's not good well there's no smooth segue to this next story but

00:28:42.980 we're going to do it anyway uh folks the the fish wars are well and truly on in newfoundland

00:28:48.420 i talked about this on my show yesterday but i want to just bring this up again because this is

00:28:52.820 a story that deserves national media attention i don't think it's getting national media attention

00:28:57.060 but it really it really deserves it in newfoundland for the past five days fishermen have been protesting

00:29:03.060 outside of the confederation building in saint john's they're protesting because there is basically

00:29:08.100 a cartel that is controlling the cell the sale of fish in that province you can only basically

00:29:14.500 sell your fish to about two companies who then artificially jack up the price of that fish in the

00:29:19.780 market and what's happening is fishermen who have been at this for decades now most of them

00:29:25.060 are now in their 50s they're poor they're struggling to put food on their own table and

00:29:29.540 they're not able to actually do the job and live the life they were living because of what's been

00:29:34.340 going on in newfoundland well they had enough and they've been protesting outside confederation

00:29:39.140 building in newfoundland over the next of the new budget and you have to look at this because this

00:29:44.420 is what we're seeing in canada now if you are protesting against uh environment government measures

00:29:49.860 from the federal government or even the provincial level especially the liberal governments like they

00:29:53.140 have in newfoundland well they treat you a lot differently than they do if you're protesting for

00:29:57.540 hamas for example you see these fishermen who are peaceful the entire time they were outside of the

00:30:02.580 newfoundland confederation building all of a sudden the royal newfoundland constabulary brings out the

00:30:09.140 horses just like they did in ottawa and here you can see some footage of what that protest looked like

00:30:16.180 outside the confederation building

00:30:26.660 so there you go if you wanted to instigate a crowd right if you if you were intentionally trying

00:30:31.380 to instigate a crowd to make them more angry what better way than to bring out the horses

00:30:37.380 and what do you think about what's what we're seeing in newfoundland right now

00:30:41.380 look i think there's in general a tremendous amount of unrest in this country and we've seen in the

00:30:48.340 course of covid that a lot of these groups and networks that had never existed i mean canada is not

00:30:54.340 a country i mean you look in europe and protests are just an everyday occurrence and as a result you

00:31:01.300 have institutions that are set up to deal with them that are not just completely brought to their

00:31:05.540 knees because of them and you have people that sort of have in their dna that idea of protest and

00:31:10.500 whether it's effective or not depends but canada has never had that and i think covet and then the

00:31:15.460 convoy particularly changed that and i think now people have a lower tolerance level a lower trust level

00:31:22.980 and have also organized into these communities which i think are are adapting a lot of these people i

00:31:29.060 wouldn't be surprised to see are probably as people that were not involved in the yellow vest protests

00:31:34.500 a few years ago which were against carbon taxes and anti-pipeline policies but now are being involved

00:31:40.020 in in these sorts of demonstrations absolutely candace what do you think well yeah i think to andrew's

00:31:45.700 point i remember when uh the occupy wall street movement was happening i think around 20 2010 and you

00:31:52.420 you kind of came to this conclusion that on the political left there's sort of like a class of

00:31:56.340 professional protesters and they're just really good at it and every time there's anything

00:32:00.340 tangentially related to like socialism or marxism they're there in numbers they know what to do they

00:32:05.060 know what to say and they have a lot of practice and at the time it was like you know why don't

00:32:09.540 conservatives or why don't people on the political right protest and usually it's like well they have

00:32:13.220 jobs and they have families and they're busy right they have lives and they're part of their

00:32:17.220 communities and they just don't they just don't have the time and i i think andrew is completely correct

00:32:21.460 that in recent years we've just seen people being pushed to their absolute limits that they just

00:32:26.980 they don't believe what's happening they don't like what's happening they're absolutely at their

00:32:30.900 wits ends they don't know what else to do and i think we did a pretty good job you both the two

00:32:35.220 of you uh documenting this at the freedom convoy that so many of the people that were there

00:32:39.140 had never protested anything in their entire lives many of them hadn't even voted they weren't

00:32:42.900 politically engaged at all and i think that you are seeing this sort of new awakening consciousness

00:32:47.460 of people on the political right saying okay well we've seen the left do this for decades and uh

00:32:53.220 you know they seem to be winning and getting what they want a lot more than we are so it's time for

00:32:56.820 us to to wake up and and do and do it as well and i don't think that the establishment quite know what

00:33:01.220 to do about it right it's like that's why they smear people protesting on the right as being you know

00:33:05.780 fascist and whatever else smears because they don't know how to deal with the political pressure

00:33:10.740 coming from the right and i i think it's it's it's i'm not even saying these fishermen are conservative

00:33:15.300 i don't know that they are uh probably probably not but but but you know they're working people

00:33:20.500 and they're not the kind of people that you would typically see protesting like this and two final

00:33:25.140 thoughts just on this because i think it's really important one is the fact that the state of new

00:33:30.180 newfoundland has no business being in the state that it is in the people have no there's no reason 0.96

00:33:35.140 why the people in that province are in such a dire economic uh in such a dire economic position it's one

00:33:41.380 of the most resource rich provinces in our country and for decades now they have been some of the

00:33:45.700 poorest people in our country that that is something that i do not understand and i think it's a scandal

00:33:50.820 that they've been treated this way and second of all the way that protests are handled in this

00:33:55.940 country now is extremely alarming it should really it should really ring alarm bells for canadians like

00:34:01.140 i said before in toronto the hamas protesters were given coffee by the toronto police they're treated with

00:34:07.220 kid gloves they are not treated as though they are dangerous rioters which in many cases they aren't

00:34:13.140 however they do protest outside of synagogues they do intimidate jews who are trying to go to a try to

00:34:18.580 go to a religious uh a real a place of worship and these people in newfoundland they are peaceful

00:34:25.540 canadians who have been just working to try to make a living and they bring out the horses there are reports

00:34:31.540 that one man had his hip broken by one of those by one of those police horses just like they did in

00:34:36.660 ottawa they trampled them and they trampled these newfoundlanders for protesting for their for just 0.99

00:34:41.860 to be able to live right just be able to put food on their own table it's it's it's i can't believe

00:34:47.620 what we're have what we're seeing now in canada where there's a double standard if you are protesting

00:34:51.300 against the government the state will deploy the heaviest use of force against you but if you were if

00:34:57.540 you were protesting for a cause which the liberals and the ndp see as politically uh you know

00:35:02.580 opportunistic for them will they treat you with kid gloves that's a disgrace no it's it's true it's

00:35:07.860 like you know they they see and and when i said i don't necessarily know that these people are

00:35:11.140 conservative or not what what they are are you know working class blue-collar white people and and

00:35:16.900 that's what scares the authorities and that's what they're afraid of they think that the political

00:35:20.420 right is like sticking time bomb and anytime they see working class protesters they they get they 0.97

00:35:25.060 get scared and their reaction to your point harrison is much much stronger and more aggressive than it

00:35:30.660 would be against the sort of typical college educated pro-palestine pro-trans whatever the

00:35:36.820 latest uh trend of the day is and is it's you're right it's a complete double standard

00:35:43.700 all right let's uh let's wrap it up guys thanks so much for tuning in everyone thanks for watching

00:35:47.380 have a great weekend remember everything you just heard was off the record

00:35:49.860 there i didn't say anything that was going to get bleeped this time i don't think i don't know

00:36:02.260 congratulations sometimes it just slips out you never know maybe maybe if we maybe if we all bring

00:36:08.420 back you know some booze on the show then uh we'll get more moments like that andrew from the last

00:36:13.140 yeah no no i hold my liquor well i'll have you know well the first episode you may recall uh we

00:36:22.260 were planning on doing it the night before so i had poured this glass of wine and then i still had it

00:36:26.020 the next morning so i was just like you know drinking my prop wine at like you know i don't

00:36:29.620 know 7 30 a.m or whenever we were doing it right and then the rest of us were having real coffee you

00:36:33.940 know what one of these days we'll do it at a time when i'm not pregnant or breastfeeding we'll we'll do

00:36:38.820 an in-person one and we'll have we'll have some nice chardonnay or some you know or something like

00:36:43.700 that and yeah we'll do it in person that's uh i think you just announced your pregnancy in the

00:36:50.020 banter reel oh i i think everyone knows by now i think in the pre-show a few weeks ago we had that

00:36:56.420 announcement as well so oh yes loyal viewers will will be uh will be well aware

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