Juno News - The collapse of the UK Conservative party - UK Election Preview Show

00:00:00.000 Now, there is perhaps no greater example of political betrayal over at least the last 20

00:00:08.120 years than what we have seen from the UK Conservative Party. For the last 14 years,

00:00:13.560 the Conservatives have been in power in the UK, and every major Conservative promise has been

00:00:19.580 broken. The UK border is wide open. Mass immigration is destroying the United Kingdom. 1.00

00:00:26.000 Radical, far-left politics has been injected into the military and to the public service.

00:00:31.580 Parts of Great Britain are completely unrecognizable, and all of that is why they

00:00:36.940 are destined for major defeat tomorrow. However, Nigel Farage and his Reform Party are back in the

00:00:43.300 mix, and they have had remarkable success at energizing disenfranchised British voters.

00:00:49.360 The Reform Party may not win many seats. They may not win any seats at all. But one thing is for

00:00:55.240 certain. They have shaken up the election in the UK, and Nigel Farage has put himself and his party

00:01:01.420 well and truly into the middle of the ongoing debate as to what happens to the UK Conservative

00:01:07.620 Party. Well, joining us now on The Faulkner Show to preview tomorrow's election in the UK is journalist,

00:01:14.140 documentary filmmaker, and the US correspondent for GB News, Stephen Edgington. Stephen,

00:01:19.260 thank you so much for joining us on the show.

00:01:21.080 Thank you so much for having me.

00:01:22.160 So by the time most of our audience see this show, it'll be a day before the English head to 0.96

00:01:28.400 the ballot box to vote in an election, which we basically already know the winner.

00:01:32.960 We know that Keir Starmer is going to form a government at this point.

00:01:36.360 But the question I have for you is this, what is the UK going to look like after five years,

00:01:41.600 or maybe even more, of a Keir Starmer-led Labour government?

00:01:45.540 I think people have to look no further than what the UK looks like after 14 years of the Conservative

00:01:52.380 government. And after 13 years of Tony Blair before that, we have had, ever since 1997,

00:02:01.140 a uniparty in the United Kingdom. The Conservatives and Labour essentially agree on all of the major

00:02:09.400 issues in the UK, particularly when it comes to immigration. They both support open borders.

00:02:15.640 The Conservatives claim they don't, but in reality, they've increased numbers to record highs.

00:02:22.800 And Labour, as we know, are very soft on immigration as well. So on that issue, they agree. 1.00

00:02:28.760 On the issue of taxes, the tax burden in the UK is the highest it's been in almost 80 years under

00:02:36.120 a Conservative government. Again, we know Labour like high taxes, particularly they say on the wealthy.

00:02:42.360 On spending, the Conservatives have spent record amounts of taxpayer money on things like COVID relief,

00:02:49.800 the NHS, welfare payments, and so on. So the UK national debt has absolutely ballooned.

00:02:57.160 And I think, and even on social issues like woke issues, again, the Conservatives say one thing,

00:03:02.920 they say, oh, we don't like this stuff. But in reality, the entire UK government civil service has

00:03:08.760 been taken over by woke ideologues. So we're going to see five years more of decline. We're going to see

00:03:17.640 a continuation and probably acceleration of what the Conservatives have done over the last 14 years.

00:03:23.320 It's going to get worse. But it won't be too much worse than what it already is like now.

00:03:31.640 So some of the fear mongering that we've heard from the Tory party in the UK that, you know,

00:03:36.440 we don't know what could possibly happen under a Labour government, you believe that ultimately

00:03:41.320 things will things will just continue this sort of managed decline. And things won't get totally out

00:03:47.400 of control. Because what we hear is that a vote for a vote for reform, for example, is going to be a

00:03:53.640 vote for Labour. And any way to stop an extremely radical Labour government should be the approach

00:03:59.960 that the English, the British people take. But you think that ultimately things will just sort of

00:04:05.320 maintain its path because you see no difference between both the Conservatives and the Labour Party.

00:04:10.040 Keir Starmer has already won this election. And the way that

00:04:12.920 the system works in the UK is that if you have a majority of let's say 20 or 30 or 40 in Parliament,

00:04:20.920 it makes no difference if your majority is 250. You can pass any law you like as long as your party

00:04:27.720 isn't split and Labour on the main issues aren't particularly split other than let's say Israel or

00:04:33.800 Palestine. But so I think literally it doesn't matter if you vote Conservative or Reform

00:04:41.400 from that perspective, Keir Starmer has already won the election. If you look at the opinion polls,

00:04:45.320 he's like 20 points ahead and has been consistently for the last year or so.

00:04:50.040 But what is important is two things, I think, for people who are considering voting reform,

00:04:56.360 which is the more populous Conservative Party in the UK. First of all, who do you think should be

00:05:01.720 leading the opposition over the next five years? Should it be the Conservatives and the rump of the party

00:05:08.280 who are left after the election, who are most likely going to be the socially liberal wing of

00:05:13.160 the party? I mean, I think almost all of the party is socially liberal, but there are a few Tory MPs who

00:05:18.280 are more Conservative. And they're likely to lose their seats anyway. Or do they think it should be

00:05:23.240 people like Nigel Farage, who's far more charismatic and Conservative than 99, well,

00:05:29.160 literally all of Conservative MPs. And the second thing they should be considering is,

00:05:34.120 do we want to continue with the current Conservative Party? Should it exist? Should does it deserve our

00:05:43.240 votes? After telling us one thing over the last 14 years and doing the exact opposite? Why should we

00:05:50.200 reward failure? Why should we reward ministers and MPs who have totally betrayed us on issues like

00:05:58.360 immigration? Should that Conservative Party simply die? And I think many people in the UK, 0.97

00:06:05.880 there's a campaign called zero seats, which is zero seats for the Conservatives. And I think it's really

00:06:12.280 important for voters to think about that. Why should the Conservative Party continue to exist if it's not

00:06:19.080 Conservative in any way? I think that they have no right to exist. And Tory ministers, I mean,

00:06:26.120 even the Conservative supposedly right wing, like part of the Conservative Party, they are just as

00:06:33.320 woke as the lefties. Look at Kemi Badnock at the other day, she's meant to be a very like socially 1.00

00:06:38.360 Conservative anti woke minister. She's, you know, and she's anti trans, blah, blah, blah. And then

00:06:44.200 recently, she put out a tweet, using the phrase white man as a kind of insult. I mean, that's literally

00:06:52.040 the language of the left. It's anti white racism is disgusting. And yet we're meant to think that 1.00

00:06:58.520 these people are the conservative wing of the Conservative Party. They're crazy. 1.00

00:07:04.040 It's unbelievable. And so what do you think would be the path to lead to the restructuring or

00:07:10.520 a sort of a demolition of the Conservative Party and then a rebuilding of that party

00:07:14.520 with some of the reform, with some reform members and some of the reform aspects because

00:07:19.240 it looks as though Nigel Farage is going to win his seat in Clacton.

00:07:22.600 It looks like reform may get some other seats as well. Once the election is over and the Conservatives

00:07:28.200 have been, you know, thoroughly defeated. How do you think that process actually starts?

00:07:35.000 I think it means that some Conservative MPs will probably try and talk with Nigel Farage,

00:07:41.240 those more on the right of the party. And I think it's a really difficult decision for Nigel because

00:07:48.280 should he get into bed with these people who have simply emitted failure for the last 14 years?

00:07:55.240 And I think then again, there are many voters in the UK who are loyal to the Conservative Party,

00:08:00.920 despite everything that I've said. So maybe I think there should be a reconciliation just to

00:08:07.080 unite those people. I think the problem with that is when you still have those MPs,

00:08:11.880 MPs, those Conservative MPs, and that Conservative brand, who are completely

00:08:19.160 ideologically opposed to literally anything that's Conservative in principle of value.

00:08:24.040 And I still think, you know, you've basically got the same problem. So I think those people have

00:08:30.440 to leave, they have to go, they have to be taken away, and they should be put in other political

00:08:36.200 parties where they belong, like the Liberal Democrats and the Labour Party. Those MPs have

00:08:41.800 controlled the Conservative Party ever since 2005, when David Cameron was elected. And I think it's time

00:08:47.960 for them to leave. And I don't think Nigel should accept anything else.

00:08:53.160 We've seen this situation happen in our country, when the Conservatives were so thoroughly defeated.

00:09:00.360 It was one of the worst election defeats in our country's history. And there was a reform party

00:09:05.320 that came up and formed an alliance with the Conservatives, and they put the reform leader in

00:09:10.760 charge, and he won and he governed for about nine years. Then that same party, the new Conservative Party

00:09:17.480 of Canada has drifted to the centre and drifted quite far left. We've seen incredibly woke policies

00:09:24.360 that have been either voted, that the Conservatives have voted with the Liberal government on,

00:09:28.600 they talk about all of the trans issues, they talk about diversity being Canada's strength.

00:09:34.440 So I think you touched on something important, which is, if this can actually happen, if the Tory

00:09:38.360 Party in the UK can collapse, and something new can be created, unless you get people out, not even just

00:09:44.760 the politicians, but I think one of the problems we have in Canada is that there are backroom staff

00:09:49.480 that have stuck around for all this time, that really pull the strings of the Conservative leader,

00:09:55.160 that just continue to push them to the left, continue to push them to the centre. We have one

00:10:00.200 party now in Canada called the People's Party of Canada, and they're not nearly as successful as the

00:10:06.520 Reform Party at getting people to vote for them, getting youth on their side. So I want to ask you

00:10:12.280 about this, because one of the things we've seen from the Nigel Farage campaign, the Reform Party

00:10:17.560 campaign, is not just incredible social media campaigning, but genuinely getting young voters

00:10:25.480 on their side. There was a video, I think it came out of Cheshire, if I'm not mistaken, I might have

00:10:29.880 that name wrong, but it was a video from a left-wing journalist asking young people in Britain who they

00:10:36.280 would vote for, and they all said reform. It was an incredible clip to see, but why do you think

00:10:41.480 reform has been so successful at getting young people energized and excited to vote for a completely

00:10:47.480 new party that is actually addressing their concerns? Well, it was actually in Chichester,

00:10:52.920 which is a very weird town to call. I actually grew up partly there. And yeah, as you say,

00:10:59.160 these reform, like young voters, teenagers even, were saying they're going to vote for reform. I think,

00:11:05.560 and I've interviewed Maxime Bernier, by the way, and I think that, I don't know if he's a very

00:11:10.920 alluring politician for those, for young people in Canada, I don't know. But Nigel, you know, he's,

00:11:16.360 he's got such charisma. And, you know, there's a real kind of aura around him, he seems very authentic.

00:11:23.160 And he really is the most powerful weapon that the populist right in the UK has. He's got huge name

00:11:30.120 recognition. He's one of the most well-known politicians in the country. I think there's an

00:11:33.880 opinion poll that said he was even more well-known than Keir Starmer, who's the Labour Party leader,

00:11:39.640 who's going to be prime minister next week. So, look, I think you need,

00:11:43.880 you need the right people on your campaign, campaign team. I think you're right to talk

00:11:50.520 about the backroom staffers. And let's compare those who work for the Reform Party to those who

00:11:55.400 work for the Conservatives. The Reform Party has a good dynamic young team who are great at social media.

00:12:02.680 They've been putting out some really fun and entertaining stuff. And they've had a huge reach.

00:12:08.680 The Conservatives, they are essentially staffed by young careerists. I know many of these people,

00:12:16.920 some of them are nice, some of them were and have been friends. But unfortunately, I think 90% of the

00:12:24.680 people who work behind the scenes in the Conservative Party are either ideologically sort of vacant,

00:12:31.480 they have no views whatsoever beyond wanting to further their own political careers. If you look at

00:12:36.920 what's called a, so we have SPADs in the UK, special advisors, these are kind of like advisors to

00:12:42.520 ministers and so on. If you look at how many of them become Conservative Party candidates and become

00:12:48.520 Conservative Party MPs, it's extraordinary. You get these people who come out of university,

00:12:53.320 go straight to work for the Conservative Party HQ, become a SPAD and then become an MP. They have no life

00:12:59.960 experience, they're total careers, total opportunists, and they're not Conservative anyway. So the party,

00:13:09.240 I think you're right, like the people who run the Conservative Party need to go, the people who are

00:13:14.760 Conservative MPs need to go, if there's going to be any resemblance of anything ideologically Conservative

00:13:23.720 in that party. And in terms of reaching younger voters, look, look across Western Europe, look across

00:13:28.920 Eastern Europe. Young people are voting for populist nationalist parties. Look at Poland, the Confederacy 0.77

00:13:36.040 Party, which is the populist party in Poland. It's the most popular party amongst young people. Look at France,

00:13:42.680 the National Rally. They're attracting young people in droves. Even Germany, the AFD is attracting young

00:13:48.760 people. In the UK, to an extent we've seen opinion polls where reform are doing well amongst young

00:13:54.280 voters, like 20% of young voters, 18 to 24, one opinion poll said they were voting for reform UK.

00:14:00.680 The Conservative Party were fifth amongst young voters. So I think young people are just as angry

00:14:07.640 as anyone else in terms of not being able to buy a house. I know Canada has a huge issue with that, so does

00:14:13.400 the UK. And that's particularly because of mass migration. If you increase demand, of course prices

00:14:20.200 are going to go up and you don't increase supply. So they see all sorts of issues where they'd be

00:14:25.960 completely let down by their political class. And I don't think all young people have to be

00:14:31.000 necessarily socially liberal or woke. I know that TikTok and all this, there's so many videos on there

00:14:37.240 which are more conservative leaning. Even Trump in the US seems to have a big kind of cult following

00:14:42.360 amongst young men in particular. So look, I think you have to like sell the message, right? You've got

00:14:47.880 to have the right spokesperson. Maybe Maxime Bernier isn't that. I think Pierre Polyev, again, like he's

00:14:53.960 been very woke on some issues. I know that. Like I did some reporting in Canada. I think unanimously,

00:15:00.120 the Conservative Party in Canada voted with the Liberals on the trans sort of banning trans conversion

00:15:07.240 therapy, which is just like, why are you even Conservatives? In the UK, Rishi Sunak, and this

00:15:13.160 is a huge issue where, you know, we're looking at Canada and we're like, we don't want to do this.

00:15:17.880 So most people, I think would think this, but on the euthanasia, Rishi Sunak said the other day,

00:15:22.360 he has no issue with passing the euthanasia law. Currently, it's banned in the UK. But this is meant

00:15:28.200 to be the Conservative Prime Minister saying that, saying that he would allow the state

00:15:32.280 to kill individuals, it's just extraordinary. And what we've seen in Canada has been one of

00:15:38.280 the most disgusting, morally vacuous situations I've ever reported on. The case of Christine

00:15:44.760 Gautier, the Paralympian who was offered euthanasia instead of a disabled ramp when she called the

00:15:49.480 government. I think, look, it just seems there's so many comparisons between our countries. And I'm

00:15:55.480 interested to see what happens with Pierre Polyev, because I know he looks like he may win next year.

00:15:59.320 Yeah, it's certainly looking that way. There was just a by-election in downtown Toronto that

00:16:03.880 is a Liberal stronghold seat, and it flipped to Conservatives. And that sort of

00:16:07.720 basically spells the end of the Liberal government. But I want to bring it back to immigration, because 1.00

00:16:12.920 just as it is a topic of, a major topic of debate in your country, and it is leading the election

00:16:19.720 dialogue, in Canada, we have a major problem, not with illegal immigration, but an open borders,

00:16:25.800 legal immigration scam that's really going on in our country. Is it just sheer quantity 1.00

00:16:33.880 of people that have entered the UK illegally and legally that has driven this issue to the top of

00:16:39.640 people's minds when they vote in the next election? Because in Canada, it is a major issue, but our

00:16:45.480 politicians don't want to touch it at all. They're afraid to be called racists. They're afraid to be

00:16:50.040 attacked as xenophobic, anti-immigration. What exactly has triggered this becoming the biggest

00:16:56.440 issue in the UK right now? It's the numbers and it's where the people are coming from.

00:17:02.520 We've seen millions of people arrive from Africa and Asia, from third world countries into Britain

00:17:09.560 over the last 20 years. We've seen more immigration in the last 20 years than Britain has seen in the

00:17:17.240 previous thousand years. We saw more immigration in 2022 in one year than the entirety of net migration

00:17:26.840 to the UK between 1964 and 2000. That's 46 years. In one year, how is our health system meant to cope

00:17:36.680 with that? How is the housing system or housing supply meant to cope with that? How are you meant to book

00:17:43.400 a dentist appointment or a GP surgery when you have so many people entering the country? And putting 1.00

00:17:49.800 the economics to one side, the cultural change that that brings to a nation when you're importing

00:17:57.160 millions of people from Africa and Asia, from countries which have entirely different backgrounds,

00:18:03.480 societies, religions, culture to yours. And you don't think that's going to change your own country,

00:18:09.960 your own country's culture. I don't think Britain is the same country it was 20 years ago. Britain used 0.99

00:18:16.040 to be 99.9% white British, the demographics in the 1950s. It's now 74%. We've gone down from I think in

00:18:25.640 the last 20 years, something like 83% white British or maybe 85% to 74%, 73%. This is an unprecedented 0.98

00:18:35.000 demographic shift in the entirety of British history. We've never seen such a huge change in the ethnic 0.92

00:18:44.200 makeup of our country. And I don't think many of these people share the same roots, the same culture

00:18:54.440 as native born British people do. Now look, maybe diversity is great. Maybe diversity is a strength. 0.91

00:19:01.400 Maybe multiculturalism is one of the most successful policies possible. I think that most British people

00:19:08.600 think it's been a disaster for Britain. I don't think they recognize the country they're in anymore.

00:19:14.760 They see people speaking foreign languages constantly in big cities like London.

00:19:18.920 They see crime go up. They see social cohesion evaporate. We used to have a high trust society.

00:19:26.600 The president of Singapore, Lee Kanyu, he came to the UK, I think in the 1940s,

00:19:31.400 and he was just absolutely stunned by how trusting people were. He wrote this famous passage in his

00:19:40.120 book about seeing a kind of honesty box. I think he was maybe some newspapers people were selling or

00:19:45.640 something, and people would just put the money in the box and people were just trusted to do that.

00:19:51.320 And he said, basically, wow, how can a society, how can a culture create such a high trusting environment?

00:19:59.400 And he wanted to replicate that in Singapore. If he came to the UK today, he wouldn't see any of that.

00:20:05.640 That has totally evaporated. And that's because of mass migration. So yeah, you can call us racist.

00:20:11.800 And that's what's going on in the UK media right now. Channel 4, a left wing news company.

00:20:16.680 They went undercover in a reform party campaign in Clacton where Nigel Farage is standing.

00:20:22.920 And they secretly recorded a random volunteer saying racist things about the prime minister.

00:20:29.880 And it's like, that's currently dominating all of the UK news coverage of the election right now.

00:20:35.480 One old man said some nasty racist things about Rishi Sunak, secretly recorded by a left wing journalist.

00:20:43.960 And that is the headline in the UK news. That's what they think is the most important issue of

00:20:48.760 this election. One random volunteer saying something racist when the when, as I say,

00:20:53.800 the conservatives have just flooded the country with millions of people from all around the world.

00:20:58.200 And we're meant to care about one man saying something racist. I don't care. There are so many

00:21:03.240 more important issues to focus on than some undercover journalist filming an old boomer saying something racist.

00:21:11.720 Absolutely. We have the exact same issues happening in our major cities. We have cities

00:21:16.200 that are becoming complete ethnic enclaves that are basically unrecognizable from just 10 years ago.

00:21:22.600 Toronto itself is basically unrecognizable from just three years ago. And I'm just slept with this question

00:21:28.840 about why a government would do this to such a great country and the United Kingdom.

00:21:37.800 Who came up with this idea that this would be something that needed to happen? Is it for cheap

00:21:44.120 foreign labor? Is it to try to expand your economy through GDP? Because we don't have the answers to

00:21:51.160 that. But right now it looks as though both parties in our country, just like they are in the UK,

00:21:55.080 both major parties are pushing this and they're pretending that they're not to in the case of the

00:21:59.880 Tories, but they've been the ones who have seen the largest amount of mass migration into your country.

00:22:05.240 Why do you think this is actually happening to the UK? They don't care about Britain's identity.

00:22:12.360 They don't care about Britain's culture. They just see it all as an economics game and a GDP game,

00:22:20.280 Rishi Sunak tweeted, I think today, celebrating the fact that the UK economy had grown by 0.7%,

00:22:26.920 the GDP. Oh, we beat all of our allies in the G7. How wonderful is that? What about the GDP per

00:22:33.560 capita, Rishi Sunak? That's been declining massively over the last 10 years. People's real-term wages have

00:22:41.160 been stagnating. If you look at the GDP per population, the economic story has basically been

00:22:49.880 decline and stagnation for the last 20 years. And they claim that immigration is vital, is 0.90

00:22:57.160 important for the economy to function, and it makes us richer. Well, it hasn't made anyone richer

00:23:02.360 according to the GDP per capita figures. In fact, it's probably made us poorer because we're simply

00:23:08.360 importing cheap labor, which means that companies aren't investing in capital and in research and

00:23:14.600 development. So for example, on farms, you know, or just robotic technology, instead of having to rely

00:23:22.920 on people picking fruits and so on, which is basically just cheap labor, you know, farmers should

00:23:29.960 be investing in better technology, which would improve productivity. So yeah, I think in the UK,

00:23:38.360 I think it's very much an economics game. They see it all as a sort of balance sheet. They don't care

00:23:43.800 about the social consequences of immigration. It simply doesn't impact them in their kind of

00:23:48.760 cushy lifestyles, or maybe they're used to growing up in so-called diverse places like London. So they 1.00

00:23:54.120 just don't care about that. I think they just have a complete absence of ideology. When the UK was

00:24:01.240 governed by Tony Blair and sort of the mass migration experiment was really accelerated by him.

00:24:06.200 Labour, a Labour minister was heard saying one time, we want to rub the rights noses in diversity.

00:24:13.240 So I think there was a political angle from the Labour perspective, from the left wing perspective,

00:24:18.600 of actually, we want to completely transform the demographics in Britain. There's also a political

00:24:23.640 angle there, you know, they think these people are far more likely to vote for them. The Conservatives,

00:24:28.280 on the other hand, you could, as I say, they're just obsessed with economics, they have no care about the

00:24:33.880 culture, they have no care about the history of this nation. And they're just utterly naive to

00:24:39.720 the consequences. I think there's also some, some of, you know, the political kind of, we love

00:24:45.080 diversity. You know, Rishi Sunak, he once held up a coin saying, there's a famous picture of him,

00:24:50.920 diversity built Britain. And, you know, this is the myth and the lie they have to tell themselves.

00:24:57.080 I mean, diversity did nothing to build Britain. There's these posters they put up in London,

00:25:01.400 Sadiq Khan, you've got this basically black lesbian woman, and it says something like, 1.00

00:25:05.160 I built London. No, you didn't. I mean, like, my ancestors built London, you had nothing to do 0.98

00:25:11.400 with it. You know, you've been here, kind of ethnic minorities have been in the UK earliest,

00:25:16.760 probably around the 1950s in large numbers. So yeah, this is, it's ideological and it's economic.

00:25:23.000 That's why it's happening in the UK. I don't know about Canada, probably the same thing.

00:25:26.600 Oh, absolutely. And we have conservative premiers, the people that, you know, run our provinces,

00:25:31.240 they say the exact same thing. They even, they even say, for example, that

00:25:35.160 one specific ethnic minority who hadn't come to this country until about 1910 or so, literally,

00:25:42.280 the words were literally built Alberta. My audience will know exactly who I'm talking about. When

00:25:46.840 Daniel Smith tweeted about how, you know, Sikhs built Alberta, which is just not true. It's just

00:25:53.320 a lie. And it is what we have been being fed by our leaders, by people who are running our media.

00:25:59.240 It's as if we've been sold out. Our futures have been sold out. They don't care about our future

00:26:03.720 generations, our children, even our grandkids, because it doesn't matter to them. They just want

00:26:07.560 to either win elections or get rich if they run corporations and they can have endless supplies of

00:26:13.560 cheap foreign labor. Stephen, I want to ask you what you think the seat count is going to look

00:26:18.440 like, what you, what you see the conservatives walking away with at the end of this election.

00:26:23.160 And of course, what you think reform is going to get out of this election.

00:26:27.800 I think reform will really struggle to win seats. They have been under relentless attack over the last

00:26:33.880 two weeks in the media with smears of racism allegations against volunteers, as I said,

00:26:40.680 and the headlines have really been dominated by that. Nigel also made a bit of an error in one

00:26:45.560 of his interviews with the BBC, where he started talking about Putin and Ukraine. He said that the

00:26:53.000 West was to blame for Putin's invasion for Ukraine. There may be a bit more nuance to that, but

00:27:00.760 him just talking about that issue is such a difficult topic. He may be right. He may be wrong. I don't

00:27:04.680 know, but, um, in the UK people are incredibly pro Ukraine, anti Putin, especially his kind of boomer 0.77

00:27:11.400 voter base. So I think that was a bit of an error. So do I think reform will do well? I think reform will

00:27:16.680 get a lot of votes. I think they'll get 15%. They'll get 16% of the votes and that will be an amazing

00:27:22.040 outcome for them. I think they will win. They will struggle to win very many MPs. That's just the way the

00:27:27.000 system works. Hopefully not. I think Nigel will win. And I think that's really important getting him in

00:27:31.880 parliament, getting him a voice there, um, is vital and he'll cause a lot of trouble.

00:27:37.240 I think they might win a few other seats, but probably beyond that, it's very difficult unless

00:27:41.160 they really surprised us on election day and they get 20, 19% of the vote they could win. You know,

00:27:46.840 we're looking at more like a dozen, 20 seats, maybe the conservatives, I think they'll win around a

00:27:53.400 hundred, maybe pro hopefully fewer. Um, but, but I think they'll win around a hundred. I think this message of

00:28:01.560 basically, if you don't vote for us, labor are going to get in that, that is quite strong for

00:28:05.320 many conservative voters who are just terrified of labor rightly because labor will do terrible

00:28:10.040 things. I mean, they're going to lower the voting age to 16. They're going to import many more people 1.00

00:28:14.600 into the UK. They're going to allow, probably going to allow people, uh, non, uh, UK citizens to vote in

00:28:19.720 the election. They're going to tear up the constitution. They're going to do terrible things, but as I said,

00:28:24.840 only a little bit worse than, uh, what the conservatives have done. So, and I think labor will win a big majority.

00:28:30.920 But it, as I said, it doesn't matter. Once you get, once you get beyond 50, 60 seats,

00:28:37.320 it doesn't, it really doesn't make an impact. It really doesn't. You can pass whatever law you

00:28:41.800 kind of want with that, with that kind of majority, unless you're the conservative

00:28:45.640 party, you win 80 seat majority in 2019. And then you decide basically to self implode,

00:28:52.760 um, and decide to govern like just Justin Trudeau. So if Keir Starmer decides to govern

00:28:59.800 like Donald Trump, maybe he'll lose his majority next time around. But I think that's highly unlikely.

00:29:05.160 Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening, but I hope that, I hope that reform can make a dent.

00:29:09.640 I hope that, I hope that something seriously, uh, seriously positive can happen. And from everyone

00:29:14.520 that I've spoken to, who is, uh, who is British, who is voting in this, they all say the same thing.

00:29:20.280 They want to see the conservative party decimated after this, because as you rightly point out,

00:29:25.240 they have sold the British people out. They have completely lied to them. Well, 0.91

00:29:30.360 we're going to see what happens. That'll be tomorrow. Pay attention, uh, to the Canadian 1.00

00:29:35.400 audience, pay attention to what happens because we may be seeing something major happen in the UK,

00:29:40.200 and maybe that can trickle down into Canada. All right, Stephen Edgington,

00:29:44.200 thank you so much for joining us. Thank you.

Juno News - July 04, 2024

The collapse of the UK Conservative party - UK Election Preview Show

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