Juno News - September 21, 2021


The Conservative strategy failed. There needs to be a reckoning.


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Everyone lost in last night's election, but the biggest losers of all were the conservatives. Candace Malan and Andrew Lawton and Hamish Marshall were there for the entire night to call the results live. They were joined by Andrew Shire, former leader of the Conservative Party from the 2019 election, and Danielle Smith of the Wild Rose Party. Out there, we had JJ McCullough, the popular YouTuber and columnist with the Washington Post, join us.

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00:00:00.120 Everyone lost in last night's election, but the biggest losers of all were the conservatives.
00:00:04.040 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:10.780 Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in today. I hope you enjoyed our coverage and our
00:00:15.460 show that we did last night. We had a live election show. We were live for about five
00:00:19.680 hours up until around one o'clock in the morning, and we had a great time. It was a great show. It
00:00:23.380 was hosted by myself, True North senior correspondent Andrew Lawton, as well as True
00:00:27.720 North in-house pollster Hamish Marshall. We were there for the entire night. We had our
00:00:33.060 sort of raw reaction to the news as it came in. We were calling the seats. We talked about every
00:00:37.960 part of the country, every riding, really looked in depth at the Trudeau campaign, at the Erin O'Toole
00:00:43.640 campaign, and sort of broke it all down. We had Sue Ann Levy in Oshawa and our own Harrison Faulkner
00:00:49.160 out in Saskatoon. We also were joined by some wonderful, spectacular guests. So we had Andrew
00:00:54.840 Shire, former leader of the Conservative Party from the 2019 election. We're joined by Danielle
00:00:59.160 Smith, former leader of the Wild Rose Party out in Alberta and someone who's still very much involved
00:01:04.440 in the political scene. Out there, we had JJ McCullough, the popular YouTuber and columnist with
00:01:10.200 the Washington Post come and join us. We had a lot of fun. It was a great broadcast and just really
00:01:15.400 enjoyed it. We had a new format that we're trying out using, so I could actually see all of the comments
00:01:20.760 as we're coming in on social media on Facebook and YouTube. So it was just, it was really fun. It was
00:01:26.200 great to connect with our audience that way. And we really appreciate everyone who tuned in. If you
00:01:31.000 want to go check that out, you can find it over on YouTube or on Facebook. But like I said in the
00:01:36.760 intro, look, I think that the obvious loser in last night's election was Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau
00:01:42.280 made an absolute mockery and fool of himself. The entire purpose of this election was one reason and
00:01:48.520 one reason alone. And that was so that Justin Trudeau could try to get a bigger share of the pie. He
00:01:53.720 wanted a bigger share of the pie. He wanted his majority government. He wanted unmitigated power
00:01:58.200 to do exactly what he wants to do. He didn't want to have to bother with the hassle of working with the
00:02:03.720 NDP and the block, even though the NDP and the block were incredibly supportive of his left-wing
00:02:08.920 agenda. So Trudeau didn't have a very good reason to call the election in the first place. Other
00:02:13.480 than the fact that he wanted more power, he lost. He did not get that power. He didn't get the outcome
00:02:18.840 that he wanted, which was the majority government. If he were an honorable person, if he had any decency,
00:02:24.120 he would resign. He would look in the mirror. He would look at his party. He would look at Canadians 0.70
00:02:28.440 and say, I forced this unnecessary $600 million election. I created all this division in the country.
00:02:34.840 I pushed on these wedge issues. I bribed the media with more money, more taxpayer money.
00:02:40.600 I demonized people who protest against lockdowns and vaccines. I divided the country. Trudeau is to
00:02:49.080 blame. Trudeau is terrible. And again, if he had any sense of decency, he would resign and he would not
00:02:54.760 be prime minister. But of course, that's not true. Of course, Justin Trudeau doesn't have any decency.
00:02:59.160 He doesn't have any honor and therefore he twisted it and spun it in his victory speech last night,
00:03:05.400 saying that he was given a mandate, saying that it's clear, saying that he won and basically acting
00:03:11.640 as though he had just won a majority government, even though he hadn't. It was absolutely despicable.
00:03:16.040 Justin Trudeau is a big, big loser of the night and Canadians are worse off this morning because of it.
00:03:22.600 But as I said in my intro, I think that the conservatives are the big losers. The conservatives
00:03:27.480 are the big losers and I will spend this show explaining why. Look, when it comes to Aaron O'Toole,
00:03:33.240 I'll just be completely frank. He comes from the opposite side of the conservative movement and party
00:03:38.680 than me. I like to see a conservative who is strong in principles, strong on their values,
00:03:42.680 unapologetic, willing to defend conservatism, willing to live their values and have a distinct
00:03:48.920 difference between the liberals and the conservatives. That's just the kind of conservative that I am.
00:03:54.440 I think that typically in the party, those people, people like me are described as true blue,
00:03:59.240 people who really believe in conservatism, really believe in things like a smaller government,
00:04:04.600 a traditional role for families, strong families and a strong economy. And those things come first.
00:04:10.440 When it comes to the culture wars, yes, they're willing to defend, defend Canada, defend the West,
00:04:15.320 defend our pipelines and our energy industry and defend Canada, not be apologetic,
00:04:20.440 not pretend to be something that you're not, not buy into the sort of woke media landscape and the
00:04:26.360 narrative that is pushed that you have to repeat these woke lines that are being shoved down our
00:04:31.320 throat by a radical fringe left. I believe that a conservative should stand up against those things,
00:04:36.280 that they should be strong and firm. So look, Aaron O'Toole is not exactly my cup of tea,
00:04:41.560 but here at True North, I try to give him the benefit of the doubt and to cover him with an open mind.
00:04:46.760 So I wasn't overly critical of him during the campaign, even though there were a lot of things
00:04:50.760 that he did that I severely disagreed with. And that's because look, he has a different,
00:04:56.360 comes from a different side of the movement than me. And he had a different strategy. The whole idea
00:05:00.840 was that he was going to run as a moderate, run as a centrist, sort of try to court people in the
00:05:07.160 middle. So he basically ditched the entire social conservative wing of the party. He wasn't really
00:05:12.760 willing to take on any of the cultural war, cultural battles that are happening in our
00:05:17.640 country right now. He pretty much stayed silent on all of them. At one point, he did say that he
00:05:21.720 would raise the flag to full staff. That should be obvious that that's, yes, that's good. And it was
00:05:27.320 good to see him do that. I would have liked to see a lot more of that from him. But regardless,
00:05:33.160 he cut the social conservatives out of the party. He didn't let someone like Pierre Lemieux even run
00:05:39.240 in the first place. When it came to the vaccine passports, the same kind of thing. A conservative
00:05:44.040 should stand strongly against that kind of huge overreach and growth in government. The government
00:05:49.560 should not be given that kind of responsibility over our lives. We shouldn't entrust the government
00:05:54.280 to oversee something like that. A conservative needs to stand against that kind of thing. 0.95
00:05:58.760 O'Toole didn't. Okay, fine. It was his strategy. His strategy was that he was going to sort of mirror
00:06:03.480 Trudeau on that wedge issue so he didn't lose the campaign over it. Fair enough. When it came to the
00:06:08.440 sort of, again, more libertarian issues, he didn't make any effort whatsoever to appeal to the
00:06:14.440 anti-lockdown crowd. He sort of just let those people go to Maxime Bernier. Let Maxime Bernier
00:06:19.640 really own that issue. And by the end of the campaign, we had sort of conservatives angrily
00:06:24.520 saying a vote for Maxime Bernier is a vote for Justin Trudeau as if that was going to make the
00:06:29.320 difference. And as if they owned those votes, that it was mandatory that if you're a libertarian,
00:06:33.640 you must vote for the conservative party, even though the conservatives weren't offering
00:06:37.640 anything to try to appeal to libertarians, appeal to even conservative sensibilities on limited
00:06:43.080 government and putting freedom first. So again, disappointing to see those two things happen.
00:06:49.080 But the reason I was willing to entertain it is the idea that perhaps Aaron O'Toole had tapped into
00:06:54.040 this strategy that he was going to run as a red Tory. He was going to run as a centrist. He was going to
00:06:58.520 appeal to all of these people in the middle who vote liberal, but maybe they were disaffected with
00:07:03.640 Justin Trudeau and they had nowhere else to go because all of the other parties are fringe and
00:07:08.360 far left. So that was a strategy, kept an open mind. And I think that the results last night
00:07:14.040 speak for themselves. Aaron O'Toole's strategy did not work. It did not work. He did not make any
00:07:20.360 inroads in Toronto. In fact, he lost several seats in the 905 that the conservatives had won under Andrew
00:07:26.440 Scheer. So Andrew Scheer, open socially conservative, Catholic guy, family guy, didn't apologize for his
00:07:31.320 conservative values. Andrew Scheer stood strongly against UN overreach. He maintained his conservative
00:07:37.080 principles. And yes, I wish there were some areas where he was even more strong and would push back
00:07:41.480 even more like the Paris declaration. But regardless, in comparison, Andrew Scheer seems like a much,
00:07:47.480 much more conservative candidate than Aaron O'Toole. So the idea that Aaron O'Toole didn't even gain seats
00:07:54.680 in Toronto, he didn't even win the 905, the suburban belt around Toronto, that it seemed like his entire
00:07:59.800 campaign was geared toward. But not just that, the conservatives got decimated in the lower mainland,
00:08:04.920 in British Columbia. They basically, from our analysis and what Hamish Marshall was saying last
00:08:09.560 night, they lost the Chinese vote, the ethnic inroads that had been made under Harper are
00:08:14.920 continuing to fade away. So you're losing the vote of new Canadians. And so at this point, you have to
00:08:20.280 stop and say, wait a minute, what was it all for? Aaron O'Toole ran a campaign where he basically
00:08:26.280 threw the conservatives in his party under the bus. He shunned social conservatives. He shunned
00:08:30.600 freedom-loving libertarians. He ran as a centrist. He ran basically as a liberal light candidate. And
00:08:37.400 he didn't even make the inroads that he needed. It seemed like his entire campaign was geared towards
00:08:43.400 appeasing the media and trying to appeal to people who, let me be frank, are never going to vote for
00:08:48.280 conservatives. You're never going to win over these people, no matter how much you try to act like
00:08:52.200 Justin Trudeau. You cannot out-Trudeau Justin Trudeau. And this is an incredible failure of
00:08:58.440 judgment and failure of strategy. And I think there needs to be a reckoning with Aaron O'Toole
00:09:03.720 as the leader of the Conservative Party within the Conservative movement, because his strategy didn't
00:09:07.960 pan out. It didn't work. He didn't win. Instead, he alienated the entire Conservative base, including
00:09:14.360 people who trusted him that he was going to run. Remember, he ran as a true blue. He said that
00:09:19.240 throughout his leadership campaign, the options for leadership of the party were Peter McKay,
00:09:24.600 who was a known red Tory, and Aaron O'Toole. And the idea why so many people threw their support
00:09:29.400 behind Aaron O'Toole was because they believed that he was the more conservative option. It turned
00:09:35.080 out that that wasn't the case. And this became evident throughout the campaign. I want to read a post
00:09:39.960 that Aaron O'Toole put on his Facebook in the final days of the campaign, because I think it's just
00:09:45.400 incredibly telling of the kind of strategy that he had, the kind of campaign he led, and the kind
00:09:50.440 of man that he is. So let me read this right here. I want to talk to the many Canadians who are tuning
00:09:55.560 into this election, and maybe hopefully looking at the Conservatives for the first time. I know some of
00:10:00.440 you are hesitant because of things you may have heard or impressions that are a little out of date.
00:10:05.320 I know that you may not hear all that much from Conservative politicians. I understand that for years
00:10:09.960 you've been let down by the Liberals. Okay, so far, so good. I guess he's trying to talk to people who
00:10:14.760 don't typically vote for Conservatives. So let's see what he has to say here. He says,
00:10:20.200 but really, if we're being honest, you've been let down by parties of all stripes, mine included.
00:10:26.440 I just want to say upfront that I know my party has ground to make up. And so I'm here to listen to
00:10:32.440 you. I want to know your thoughts, hopes, fears, and dreams. And I hope when Monday rolls around,
00:10:37.800 even if you're a little uncertain about your vote, you'll look at Canada's Conservatives a little
00:10:42.360 differently, a little differently. So basically what he's saying here is he's apologizing for the
00:10:47.240 Conservatives in his party. He's apologizing for the Conservative positions his party has taken in the
00:10:51.800 past. And he wants you to know that under his watch, the Conservatives are different. Okay, so let's
00:10:57.400 continue reading. From the first day of my leadership, my priority has been to build a
00:11:02.920 Conservative movement where every Canadian feels at home, inclusive, diverse, forward-looking,
00:11:10.280 socially progressive, and worker-friendly. As you look ahead to voting this election,
00:11:16.920 I ask for your support. Okay, so we have all the left-wing buzzwords that he's included there. He
00:11:21.960 wants you to know that the Conservative Party is now diverse and focused on diversity and inclusion,
00:11:28.280 which we know is sort of left-wing academic buzzword. Look, the Conservative Party has always been
00:11:33.000 diverse. Ever since I first went to a Conservative Party event, which was probably about 15 years ago
00:11:39.240 in Vancouver, the first thing you notice about the room is that it's diverse. There's people of all
00:11:44.360 backgrounds, all walks of life, all ethnicities. We were talking about this last night, that the whole
00:11:49.640 idea that Conservatives are innately homophobic or anti-gay is just obviously untrue. If you get,
00:11:57.320 if you work in Conservative politics or you're around Conservative politics, you recognize very
00:12:01.720 quickly that there are a lot of people who are gay in the Conservative movement, a lot of people who
00:12:06.280 identify as LGBTQ, a lot of people from different walks of life. Again, so the idea that Conservatives
00:12:13.000 oppose that has always been nonsense, always been a media lie. But again, here, Erin O'Toole is repeating it,
00:12:19.160 and basically cementing those negative left-wing media stereotypes about Conservatives,
00:12:24.280 admitting that they're true, and promising and pledging to be better. So here he says he wants to
00:12:29.720 be forward-looking, socially progressive, and left-wing. So again, he's applying that he wants
00:12:36.120 to be forward-looking, which implies that the former Conservative Party was, what, backwards-looking.
00:12:40.760 He wants to be socially progressive, which means socially left-wing, it means woke. So why is Erin O'Toole
00:12:46.600 pledging to be woke in the final week of the campaign? If you're a Conservative in this party,
00:12:50.840 who has long voted Conservative, who has been loyal to the party, and you see something like that,
00:12:55.160 you read something like that, that was the focus of his campaign in the final week. He was giving
00:12:59.400 speeches to that end, that was what he was talking about, apologizing for the Conservative Party,
00:13:04.360 saying that the past, they were wrong, and he wants to move it in a more left-wing direction. Well,
00:13:09.320 I've got news for you, Erin O'Toole. When you talk like that, when you campaign like that,
00:13:13.640 when you say those kind of things, when you run on a campaign trying to please the media, trying to
00:13:17.480 please the left, and to get those people to win over, what you're really doing is you're throwing
00:13:22.120 your own base under the bus. You're making Conservatives who have long supported and voted
00:13:26.200 for your party feel like you don't want them, and that you're ashamed of them, and that you are basically
00:13:30.920 apologizing for them. So look, Erin O'Toole didn't do what he said he was going to do. He didn't
00:13:35.960 make the inroads that he was hoping to. He didn't make the progress that he wanted. Instead, he alienated his
00:13:41.640 base. He didn't pick up seats and make the ground by picking up those moderate or those liberal voters,
00:13:46.920 and instead, he let the entire Conservative movement down. There needs to be a reckoning.
00:13:51.640 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.