Juno News - November 03, 2023


The fight against globalism (ft. Eva Vlaardingerbroek)


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In this episode of the Andrew Lawton Show, host Andrew Lawton is joined by journalist Jordan Peterson to discuss his recent trip to the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland, where he was joined by Ava Blardinger-Blinde to discuss the dangers of globalism and the need for a counter-movement to counter it.

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00:00:00.000 you're tuned in to the andrew lawton show
00:00:05.920 you know interestingly i i just about i don't know 40 minutes ago or so i i was speaking with
00:00:13.180 jordan peterson very briefly and i had said jordan i'm about to go on air uh and he says hello by
00:00:19.140 the way he's a big supporter of true north i said jordan i'm about to go on air what would you tell
00:00:23.980 people is the distinction or the contrast between arc and wef and in true jordan peterson like
00:00:31.080 fashion he gave a very eloquent and biblical and historical answer that i i can't possibly
00:00:37.140 paraphrase and the room was far too loud for me to record it but he effectively said we are wanting
00:00:42.460 to give people freedom to rise them to rise up themselves to raise their communities to elevate
00:00:48.940 themselves and as a result elevate society we're not looking to just give people what they want or
00:00:55.260 what we think they want and that was so critical and you look i've covered the world economic forum
00:01:01.020 on two occasions now and both times the presentations you hear from the speakers are almost all about
00:01:08.540 them building the world they want and you having to make it happen here we are being empowered as
00:01:15.540 attendees and i i say that because i i actually felt i don't feel empowerment often but i felt a
00:01:19.760 a wee bit of empowerment this morning maybe it was something in the punch but we are being empowered to
00:01:24.200 help build the world that we want for ourselves and as a result lift people up and that is i think
00:01:31.240 the biggest distinction between the elites versus the everyman i would argue generally between the left
00:01:38.400 and the right and that was one of the conversations i was having with people here you may know ava
00:01:45.360 blardingerbrook who has been a an absolute firebrand of a commentator from the netherlands i first met her
00:01:51.280 because she was a regular guest on my old friend mark stein's show and i was actually hanging out aboard
00:01:56.920 the mark stein cruise with her a few months back and i was chatting with ava a little bit about this
00:02:03.080 very trend we're seeing right now towards globalism and what an organization like art can do to kind of
00:02:10.340 resist that take a look one of the things you've been known for i think uh contextualizing and
00:02:16.680 criticizing is the rise of globalism and i'm wondering where you think this comes from what's
00:02:22.200 the root of this where globalism comes from well i mean ultimately people like power uh especially
00:02:30.100 people in power and they like to extend their power beyond what they already have and globalism
00:02:36.000 well what what's better than to have control over the entire world you know if you can control one
00:02:41.440 country that's nice but uh i think to people who have nefarious intentions the more power the better
00:02:48.800 um and then why not on a global scale right so i think in some to a certain degree it's a natural thing
00:02:55.820 in the human mind to want to expand power and uh sadly i think that there are a lot of people right
00:03:01.220 now who who see opportunities there and who package that really nicely and with good good sounding
00:03:07.420 intentions um but when we look at how that plays out in reality it can never really be good
00:03:13.020 one of the biggest and i'd say most disheartening trends is that people who are elected as anti-globalists
00:03:19.600 or as nationalists oftentimes end up disappointing i mean you have a number of conservative governments in
00:03:24.780 the uk in the netherlands uh italy uh has been a particular letdown i know for you personally and
00:03:30.620 how do we fight that because if you can't even really elect someone in a country that's going to
00:03:37.260 fight against it we truly are powerless yeah i've been somewhat um to throw in a nice internet term
00:03:43.060 there somewhat blackpilled on the political system in general i mean yes maloney for example being a
00:03:48.820 recent uh case of someone who i've heard personally go on stage and talk about the the danger of
00:03:55.420 globalism and really vehemently attack the globalists and now she's in power and the one thing that she 0.96
00:04:01.320 promised which was a naval blockade she didn't do and lampadusa is being swarmed with migrants 1.00
00:04:06.640 at a record number uh last month so it's like i i think probably not putting too much solace and
00:04:15.260 hope in people who have personal interests um within the political realm is a good idea because
00:04:21.740 somebody who will yeah like i said you know if you get in power you probably want to keep it
00:04:26.720 and um catering to the globalists is a way to keep it right now sadly so maybe the the the resistance has
00:04:34.320 to be outside of the system rather than in it there's a world economic forum class obviously people
00:04:40.040 that go to the same parties they all take each other's ideas they all take inspiration from each other
00:04:44.800 here we're at a forum that on paper is is arguably similar it's a global collection of leaders in
00:04:51.940 various fields but it's very different and i'm wondering if you could explain a little bit about
00:04:55.900 why that is and and i guess more importantly why you're here right well so i'm here um obviously
00:05:01.200 when when jordan peterson announced that he was starting a counter movement basically to the world
00:05:06.540 economic forum it immediately sparked my interest because although i'm not a fan necessarily of
00:05:12.400 decentralized organizations the essence of this is is not that it's actually to bring together people
00:05:17.920 who look at power in a more decentralized more nationalist way uh bring them together to fight
00:05:24.100 again a global agenda right so it's it's in essence the opposite idea of the world economic forum even
00:05:30.820 though we do have to conspire together you know in order to exchange ideas and uh and i really like that
00:05:37.700 for for because of the fact that it's it's active you know we're doing something and there's a lot of
00:05:43.200 talk on the conservative side but this is something where people can actually join and and and exchange
00:05:49.100 ideas and take action and hopefully spread the word um beyond social media so i i really like it for that
00:05:56.340 reason the focus obviously on responsible citizenship is a very different idea than what the world economic
00:06:05.220 foreign predicates uh they for them of the political ideology that they're based on
00:06:11.520 everything left-wing anyway anything neo-marxist is always it's always outside of yourself right it's
00:06:16.420 always the system that is oppressive it's a racism or the patriarchy or anything climate you know it's
00:06:23.600 always anything that is outside of your own control and i think what peterson opened with today saying
00:06:29.280 no you you have agency over your own life and that's where you need to get started
00:06:32.800 is a really good message and one that we desperately need so i'm curious to see how this will develop and
00:06:39.260 what will come from you know a meeting like this because it can't just be talking that we need to be
00:06:45.740 wary of that but i really really like the idea and just on citizenship i mean one of the more dangerous
00:06:50.560 trends in recent years has been this idea of a quote-unquote global citizen which i i think is an
00:06:55.660 incredibly facile thing to say exists you can't have citizens without nations and that's one thing i hope 0.99
00:07:02.520 comes up here because that's really been i i'd say the cornerstone of a lot of the problems we've
00:07:06.860 seen is the erosion of nations and the erosions of states yes i mean a citizen of the world is a
00:07:12.420 contradiction in terms i would say you can't be a citizen of the world you are a citizen of a
00:07:17.080 particular country and with that you know we're talking about citizenship being limited to
00:07:22.160 your nation state but also democracy in and of itself is inherent to the idea of a nation state you
00:07:29.560 can't have democracy on a global level it doesn't function so i think that that's important for
00:07:34.180 people to to to realize you know even though the globalist ideas the the ones that we hear for
00:07:39.340 example in the agenda 2030 they sound very good but the only way that that can happen if it is if
00:07:45.360 there is a an active redistribution of your rights your goods and um i mean in general all of your basic
00:07:52.980 liberties really you can't have a democracy on a global level it doesn't work that way and i think
00:07:57.700 that that's something that people don't don't really realize when they they listen to the
00:08:02.860 the nice free text and the pretty words so yeah i hope i hope we'll hear more of that here but we've
00:08:08.660 only just gotten started so i'm very hopeful thanks for listening to the andrew lawton show
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