Juno News - November 03, 2023


The fight against globalism (ft. Eva Vlaardingerbroek)


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

Words per Minute

182.56087

Word Count

1,527

Sentence Count

4

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you're tuned in to the andrew lawton show
00:00:05.920 you know interestingly i i just about i don't know 40 minutes ago or so i i was speaking with
00:00:13.180 jordan peterson very briefly and i had said jordan i'm about to go on air uh and he says hello by
00:00:19.140 the way he's a big supporter of true north i said jordan i'm about to go on air what would you tell
00:00:23.980 people is the distinction or the contrast between arc and wef and in true jordan peterson like
00:00:31.080 fashion he gave a very eloquent and biblical and historical answer that i i can't possibly
00:00:37.140 paraphrase and the room was far too loud for me to record it but he effectively said we are wanting
00:00:42.460 to give people freedom to rise them to rise up themselves to raise their communities to elevate
00:00:48.940 themselves and as a result elevate society we're not looking to just give people what they want or
00:00:55.260 what we think they want and that was so critical and you look i've covered the world economic forum
00:01:01.020 on two occasions now and both times the presentations you hear from the speakers are almost all about
00:01:08.540 them building the world they want and you having to make it happen here we are being empowered as
00:01:15.540 attendees and i i say that because i i actually felt i don't feel empowerment often but i felt a
00:01:19.760 a wee bit of empowerment this morning maybe it was something in the punch but we are being empowered to
00:01:24.200 help build the world that we want for ourselves and as a result lift people up and that is i think
00:01:31.240 the biggest distinction between the elites versus the everyman i would argue generally between the left
00:01:38.400 and the right and that was one of the conversations i was having with people here you may know ava
00:01:45.360 blardingerbrook who has been a an absolute firebrand of a commentator from the netherlands i first met her
00:01:51.280 because she was a regular guest on my old friend mark stein's show and i was actually hanging out aboard
00:01:56.920 the mark stein cruise with her a few months back and i was chatting with ava a little bit about this
00:02:03.080 very trend we're seeing right now towards globalism and what an organization like art can do to kind of
00:02:10.340 resist that take a look one of the things you've been known for i think uh contextualizing and
00:02:16.680 criticizing is the rise of globalism and i'm wondering where you think this comes from what's
00:02:22.200 the root of this where globalism comes from well i mean ultimately people like power uh especially
00:02:30.100 people in power and they like to extend their power beyond what they already have and globalism
00:02:36.000 well what what's better than to have control over the entire world you know if you can control one
00:02:41.440 country that's nice but uh i think to people who have nefarious intentions the more power the better
00:02:48.800 um and then why not on a global scale right so i think in some to a certain degree it's a natural thing
00:02:55.820 in the human mind to want to expand power and uh sadly i think that there are a lot of people right
00:03:01.220 now who who see opportunities there and who package that really nicely and with good good sounding
00:03:07.420 intentions um but when we look at how that plays out in reality it can never really be good
00:03:13.020 one of the biggest and i'd say most disheartening trends is that people who are elected as anti-globalists
00:03:19.600 or as nationalists oftentimes end up disappointing i mean you have a number of conservative governments in
00:03:24.780 the uk in the netherlands uh italy uh has been a particular letdown i know for you personally and
00:03:30.620 how do we fight that because if you can't even really elect someone in a country that's going to
00:03:37.260 fight against it we truly are powerless yeah i've been somewhat um to throw in a nice internet term
00:03:43.060 there somewhat blackpilled on the political system in general i mean yes maloney for example being a
00:03:48.820 recent uh case of someone who i've heard personally go on stage and talk about the the danger of
00:03:55.420 globalism and really vehemently attack the globalists and now she's in power and the one thing that she
00:04:01.320 promised which was a naval blockade she didn't do and lampadusa is being swarmed with migrants
00:04:06.640 at a record number uh last month so it's like i i think probably not putting too much solace and
00:04:15.260 hope in people who have personal interests um within the political realm is a good idea because
00:04:21.740 somebody who will yeah like i said you know if you get in power you probably want to keep it
00:04:26.720 and um catering to the globalists is a way to keep it right now sadly so maybe the the the resistance has
00:04:34.320 to be outside of the system rather than in it there's a world economic forum class obviously people
00:04:40.040 that go to the same parties they all take each other's ideas they all take inspiration from each other
00:04:44.800 here we're at a forum that on paper is is arguably similar it's a global collection of leaders in
00:04:51.940 various fields but it's very different and i'm wondering if you could explain a little bit about
00:04:55.900 why that is and and i guess more importantly why you're here right well so i'm here um obviously
00:05:01.200 when when jordan peterson announced that he was starting a counter movement basically to the world
00:05:06.540 economic forum it immediately sparked my interest because although i'm not a fan necessarily of
00:05:12.400 decentralized organizations the essence of this is is not that it's actually to bring together people
00:05:17.920 who look at power in a more decentralized more nationalist way uh bring them together to fight
00:05:24.100 again a global agenda right so it's it's in essence the opposite idea of the world economic forum even
00:05:30.820 though we do have to conspire together you know in order to exchange ideas and uh and i really like that
00:05:37.700 for for because of the fact that it's it's active you know we're doing something and there's a lot of
00:05:43.200 talk on the conservative side but this is something where people can actually join and and and exchange
00:05:49.100 ideas and take action and hopefully spread the word um beyond social media so i i really like it for that
00:05:56.340 reason the focus obviously on responsible citizenship is a very different idea than what the world economic
00:06:05.220 foreign predicates uh they for them of the political ideology that they're based on
00:06:11.520 everything left-wing anyway anything neo-marxist is always it's always outside of yourself right it's
00:06:16.420 always the system that is oppressive it's a racism or the patriarchy or anything climate you know it's
00:06:23.600 always anything that is outside of your own control and i think what peterson opened with today saying
00:06:29.280 no you you have agency over your own life and that's where you need to get started
00:06:32.800 is a really good message and one that we desperately need so i'm curious to see how this will develop and
00:06:39.260 what will come from you know a meeting like this because it can't just be talking that we need to be
00:06:45.740 wary of that but i really really like the idea and just on citizenship i mean one of the more dangerous
00:06:50.560 trends in recent years has been this idea of a quote-unquote global citizen which i i think is an
00:06:55.660 incredibly facile thing to say exists you can't have citizens without nations and that's one thing i hope
00:07:02.520 comes up here because that's really been i i'd say the cornerstone of a lot of the problems we've
00:07:06.860 seen is the erosion of nations and the erosions of states yes i mean a citizen of the world is a
00:07:12.420 contradiction in terms i would say you can't be a citizen of the world you are a citizen of a
00:07:17.080 particular country and with that you know we're talking about citizenship being limited to
00:07:22.160 your nation state but also democracy in and of itself is inherent to the idea of a nation state you
00:07:29.560 can't have democracy on a global level it doesn't function so i think that that's important for
00:07:34.180 people to to to realize you know even though the globalist ideas the the ones that we hear for
00:07:39.340 example in the agenda 2030 they sound very good but the only way that that can happen if it is if
00:07:45.360 there is a an active redistribution of your rights your goods and um i mean in general all of your basic
00:07:52.980 liberties really you can't have a democracy on a global level it doesn't work that way and i think
00:07:57.700 that that's something that people don't don't really realize when they they listen to the
00:08:02.860 the nice free text and the pretty words so yeah i hope i hope we'll hear more of that here but we've
00:08:08.660 only just gotten started so i'm very hopeful thanks for listening to the andrew lawton show
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