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- September 22, 2021
The future of the PPC and Bernier’s vision for Canada
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it's a pleasure thank you very much for giving us the time thanks for the invitation very pleased
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to be with you fantastic so this is obviously not your first election night but i have to imagine
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that for yourself this is the most exciting one that you've had in many years i think you're
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right i think you're right because we had a very good campaign and i believe that we have a kind
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of a momentum people are looking at us now more people know that we exist in the beginning of the
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campaign the people's party of canada was not so well known with the majority of canadians and that
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campaign gave me the opportunity to speak about what we believe and to bring our message to more
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canadians so i want to ask you about ppc strategy going forward after tonight so the poll if the
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polls are correct what we know is that your party is going to have a significant increase in vote
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share nationally and far surpass the expectation of the legacy media i want to know what the ppc
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strategy would be if after tonight the conservative party were to perhaps move more right and
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perhaps try and crowd your party and your and yourself out of the right wing vote no you know
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actually the conservative party of canada is not a concept conservative party anymore they're only
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conservative in name and they're going to the left they were going to the left with andrew sheer now
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they're going more to the left with a tool because we are living in a socialist era and their only goal
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is to be in power to be in government and you know they have the same narrative and they're speaking
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like liberals and like leftists uh that's because they want to have the support of the left and i believe
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that the real conservative voters are looking at us like the real option on a lot of issues uh speaking
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by more freedom and saying no to lockdown saying no to vaccine passports we are the only one that is
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ready to fight for freedoms and for canadians so that being said i don't know what the conservative
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party will do after this election uh but for me uh if they are not winning if they don't win a
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minority or majority it's not because of us it's because the conservative party of canada is not
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conservative and and for us we will always fight for what we believe and this political party this
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movement will grow we won't do the mistake that the reform party did uh preston manning did you know
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preston was a principal politician and i admired him but you know he was the leader of the opposition
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and he wanted to be prime minister and they merged and then at the end they didn't have the same
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philosophy so for us the people's party of canada is there for the long term that election it's an
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important step for us and i think for canadians it will be a historical election so uh i don't know
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but i believe you know our goal in the beginning of the campaign was to grow a percentage of the vote
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uh from 1.6 and i said to my candidates if we have on average all across the country four percent i'll be
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happy but i believe it would be more than that i believe that some candidates can be elected
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and i believe that we'll be able to beat the greens and having more support than the green
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so and i hope that everything will go well for us and we'll have a couple of candidates elected
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if not we will do the same thing i'll be on a campaign trail after this election and traveling
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across the country and to build uh build our movement and our political party all across the
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the country because i believe that will be an election maybe in two years if we have a majority
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minority government so one thing i observed of your campaign was your adoption of alternative
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media uh you went on to several podcasts and use longer form discussions to try and speak to your
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base you were just on the jordan peterson podcast and previously you did a show with michael malice
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so given that you've clearly had success in using new media to reach out to your base do you think
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that in the future we're going to see other political leaders party leaders adopt your same
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alternative media strategy i don't know uh you know what they they don't want all these uh
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establishment political leaders they don't want to have a real discussion with canadians they try to
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appeal to your emotions during a campaign and after a campaign with a sound bite and clips and
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and for us like i said we are doing politics differently i'm not afraid to speak about our platform and
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uh taboo subject for some someone and uh there's no taboo subject for us so yes that's why i'm able to
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do this kind of a podcast and having a discussion for one hour and 30 minutes with jordan peterson as
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you know jordan peterson said and wrote that he asked erin o'too to come and he wrote erin o'too declined
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and to decline to be with him because they cannot have that the way that they're doing politics they
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don't want to sit and having a real conversation about their platform they're doing politics based
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on survey and poolings and that's why people are fed up with that we are doing politics by conviction
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if i'm speaking about something that is not popular i will speak about it because i believe that we have
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the best ideas and until we have a majority uh and so but traditional politician if they're a subject
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like i don't know um you know mask mask mandates if they don't have the majority on their side they
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won't speak against that for us we are doing politics differently because we try to appeal to the
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intelligence of people and also to explain our policies and to inform people and i believe if we
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have on a subject only 10 percent of support we will speak about it openly with passion and conviction
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and we'll have more people because we believe that we have the best ideas and the best the best vision
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for this country based on the four principles of our party individual freedom personal responsibility
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respect and fairness so i don't believe that answering your question that these traditional
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politicians will use social media because you have to be honest and authentic if you want to use social
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media and they're not so i want to kind of switch gears here and ask you about something that i felt
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got very little attention during this election and that's the state of our military you know we have
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a depleted demoralized understaffed and out of date military and you know we have a fighter jet
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procurement system for example which is a total joke and and uh like a fleet of submarines that are
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barely usable and on top of that our our closest allies just signed a defense agreement without us
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leaving us behind how is it that our once feared military is in this position and and why does it feel
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like it's such a non-issue at the federal level well it's a non-issue because they're doing polling and
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it's not popular with the population they don't want to speak about that we think that it's important
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and yes our party we want to balance the budget in four years and will be fiscally responsible
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who tool and to do they are not and for the canadian forces yes we must reinvest in our canadian forces
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we must try to achieve the target of two percent of our gdp but i can tell you it won't happen a first
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mandate of the people's party of canada because we have to fix our budget we have to balance the budget
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and we'll do that without increasing taxes uh but by cutting cutting foreign aid five billion dollars
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that we can save cutting corporate welfare we can save between eight to ten billion dollars uh cutting the
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cbc with so we know what to do to balance the budget in four years we'll do that but we know
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also that we must reinvest in reinvest reinvest in our canadian forces and that would be a priority
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after balancing the budget you know all these the liberals and the conservative during this campaign
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they were there to buy your votes with money that we don't have a lot of promises uh because you know
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that's the way that they're doing politics what we'll do will cut all these promises that they did
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and what will happen it will be the inflation we have the inflation tax right now people must
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understand that that huge deficit of 354 billion dollars it's not our children and grandchildren that
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will pay for it it is us right now by the inflation tax the inflation is about 4.2 percent in canada
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uh if you do your grocery it's about six seven percent inflation is a hidden tax instead of taking
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your own money in your own pockets and forcing you to give that to the government by taxing you the
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government and o'toole and trudeau they're telling keep your money in your pockets but you won't be able
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to buy the same amount of goods and services with your money your purchasing power is going down
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your standard of living is going down inflation is a hidden tax the worst of all taxes and we will
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fight that and now what they said during this campaign the conservative the liberal they will
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spend more money they won't balance the budget they will increase our debt for the next 10 years
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and we will have to pay that inflation tax right now that it's about five percent maybe in six months
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it will be eight nine percent and that's a disaster we need to do politics differently and to
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to tell the truth to canadians so that's why i believe that yes we must reinvest in our canadian
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forces but i'm honest with you we won't be able to do that on a first mandate so i want to ask you
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about national unity and i think a lot of canadians would agree that we do have a unity problem in this
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country we have two separatist movements in two very different parts of the parts of the country uh
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born out of different frustrations and on top of that almost all the provinces have now introduced
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a vaccine mandate system which will only further divide canadians how would we possibly try and
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unify this country and what would the ppc strategy be to do that yeah we won't uh we won't uh divided
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people by by race by gender and now by vaccination status we won't do that our goal is to unite every
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canadian under the freedom umbrella everybody must be free to choose if they want the vaccine or not
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we respect everybody that's the freedom of choice same thing for mass mandate and that's an important
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issue for this election but yes you're absolutely right about this country right now the unity and
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it's a little bit sad that i'm the only one that had that has a solution for the unity of our country
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when you have western canadians and you have western alienation and we have like you said about 30 of
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the population in alberta that are ready to separate we need to address that who tool and
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trudeau they won't speak about that i'm doing interviews uh in toronto and or in eastern canada
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and i said you know do you know people in western canada they're not so happy with the situation
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they didn't know that because nobody's speaking about that except ourselves so yes we have a solution
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the solution is to respect the constitution if you respect the constitution you'll have a radical
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decentralization provinces like alberta would have more autonomy you need to be able also to to build
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pipelines in this country we are for that we need to change the equalization formula to be less
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generous to give the right incentive to other provinces like my own province in quebec to develop
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their own natural resources as you know that formula is a poverty trap quebec received equalization
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money since the beginning of that program 1957 so we must stop that quebec is not a poor province i'm
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the only one who bring that discussion uh but the other don't want because they will have to explain
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that they will have to tell the truth and it you can explain that in a five second uh sound bite you
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can do that so we are doing that and that's why you know it will take maybe more time but i'm speaking
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about the unity issue in western canada but also in quebec and in atlantic canada and actually as you
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saw in the pool we have a lot of support in atlantic canada we don't do any polling until internally
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i'm looking at the public polls and in atlantic canada we're supposed to be around 14 percent
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and in alberta about the same so when you tell the truth based on facts people you know can understand
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i believe that canadians are not children that you must regulate and you know no they're adult they
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must be responsible adult and that's why we are doing that we are telling the truth and we know that
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it can take more time but my goal is not to be in government tomorrow like erin utul my goal is for
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our ideas to win the battle of ideas we are in the middle of a socialist era in canada and all across
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other countries also we need to fight and we need to win that ideological revolution and we will so
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that's why i believe tonight you know if we have five six percent of the vote it will be a big
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victory for the people's party and the next step will grow again and you can you can count on us on
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me after this campaign i'll be back in the road on the street and i will fight with canadians in ottawa but
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also in the street because we will have to do more protests if you have a liberal government or a
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conservative government they will they will both of them are ready to violate our our rights and
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freedoms and we must act we must tell them you know we don't want to live in a country when you do a
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segregation and and discrimination with with canadians and that's happening right now with the vaccine
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passport uh you know we must fight for everybody and we'll do that and i believe that vaccinated
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people like unvaccinated people know that you know the the direction of our country
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that direction it's not the the one that we want we are going to more socialism and and and more
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communism and we need to go back to our funding principles and that's about all that we need to do
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after this election so i actually want to ask you about that as sort of the one of the final
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questions i have and it's about your vision for canada so often in in politics party leaders are
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forced to talk about whatever's in the news cycle and we never really get to hear their their grand
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vision for this country but i want to frame it in this context so what would you say to a canadian that
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looks at this country and sees a country that is no longer what it once was that sees it standing
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on the world stage dropping precipitously that sees fewer economic opportunities available to them and and
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sees their freedoms eroding um what would you say to that canadian to motivate them about the future
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and what is your grand vision for canada what what what can canada become well first of all you know
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i believe that the problem in canada is the government and and more government intervention in
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our day-to-day life and our position on that we are putting canadian first and our country first but
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that's not a slogan that's the reality by you know uh working on our own agenda not the un agenda the
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socialist agenda our own agenda keeping our sovereignty i see that country in the near future
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if we win that battle of ideas and i believe we win because you know the truth uh always win and we
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will but i don't know when but that election is a big step toward that that so you know i believe in a
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smaller government in ottawa that will respect individual rights that will respect people that
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will look at canadians as responsible adults a smaller government that won't interfere in provincial
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jurisdiction well you will have constitutional peace in this country uh and and and doing that you'll have
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more autonomy for every province you know in quebec uh they have their pension fund they have their police
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force uh why alberta or another province cannot have that they can't we need to have a more
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decentralized country like the father of our constitution wanted to to to be and if you respect
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the constitution you'll have that radical decentralization so i believe that you know a more
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a smaller government ottawa that will um that will give more autonomy to provinces and at the same time
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will have a more prosperous and a freer country i want our country to be back what we were before
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coven 19 and maybe more before that when we had more freedoms and and now we don't we don't
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so it's sad the situation of today because i believe it can be worse before being better with these mask
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mandates and vaccine passport uh it would be all over the country it's in quebec right now in force
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and it would be in ontario it would be in alberta in bc because the federal government and othul and
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trudeau they're ready to spend a billion dollars that we don't have to force provinces to implement
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the vaccine passport so uh that's why and also on immigration you know we are the only party that is
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against mass immigration for sustainable immigration that's why we need to have the discussion
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on immigration also right now because we love this country and we want this country to be like that
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in 25 years you know i'm looking what is happening in europe in france when you have no goes on there
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we don't want that in our country that's why you want fewer immigrants most more of them must be skilled
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immigrants and we need to fix the the border at the roxham road in quebec so there's a lot of
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challenges but if we speak about it and and if people are putting their their vote where what they
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believe in and i'm telling people don't vote against something for this election vote for something vote
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for your values vote for us for the ppc look at our platform and so that argument about spitting the vote
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it's it's very you know uh it's a little bit when i i i saw the conservative at the end of the campaign
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saying to everybody don't vote for the ppc you will split the vote no you won't split the vote because
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utul is not conservative and people don't understand that and they need they need to send a strong
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message in ottawa and i believe that the people's party of canada will be the real opposition we won't
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be the official opposition in ottawa after this election but we will be the real opposition the
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real ideological opposition in this country and people i believe need us and we need their support
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so that's why this battle it's only the first step and and we'll see what will happen but we can we can
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if everybody works together under the freedom umbrella we can be able to gain back our country
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so it is election night and before you go we'd be wrong to not ask you for a prediction about
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what's going to happen tonight what do you think is going to happen for you and your party first uh
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i've been told by my people in both it's very tight for me in both over there i don't know what will
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happen i believe that we'll have at least four five six percent of the votes that will be a huge victory
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maybe more than that and maybe a couple of our candidates selected but the most important the
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mainstream media won't be able to ignore us anymore uh but you know we were able to grow without them
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because of our using social media podcasts youtube and all these uh real i say you know alternative
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media but real independent media so we will focus there uh for me um just before the vote i feel very
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good i did everything that i had to do i travel across the country we did rallies i did my best and we'll
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see what will happen but i'm pretty confident that this this election will be an historical one for
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the people's party and maybe for the country well thank you for the time mr bernier best of luck tonight
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you'll see thank you very much
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