Juno News - September 22, 2021


The future of the PPC and Bernier’s vision for Canada


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On election night, the People s Party of Canada (PC) won a majority government in Canada's federal election. In this special edition of the podcast, I sit down with the newly elected Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, to discuss his victory and what he plans to do in the future.

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00:00:00.000 it's a pleasure thank you very much for giving us the time thanks for the invitation very pleased
00:00:09.200 to be with you fantastic so this is obviously not your first election night but i have to imagine
00:00:13.680 that for yourself this is the most exciting one that you've had in many years i think you're
00:00:18.000 right i think you're right because we had a very good campaign and i believe that we have a kind
00:00:22.880 of a momentum people are looking at us now more people know that we exist in the beginning of the
00:00:28.720 campaign the people's party of canada was not so well known with the majority of canadians and that
00:00:35.040 campaign gave me the opportunity to speak about what we believe and to bring our message to more
00:00:41.760 canadians so i want to ask you about ppc strategy going forward after tonight so the poll if the
00:00:48.800 polls are correct what we know is that your party is going to have a significant increase in vote
00:00:53.200 share nationally and far surpass the expectation of the legacy media i want to know what the ppc
00:00:58.640 strategy would be if after tonight the conservative party were to perhaps move more right and
00:01:05.200 perhaps try and crowd your party and your and yourself out of the right wing vote no you know
00:01:12.160 actually the conservative party of canada is not a concept conservative party anymore they're only
00:01:17.760 conservative in name and they're going to the left they were going to the left with andrew sheer now
00:01:23.280 they're going more to the left with a tool because we are living in a socialist era and their only goal
00:01:29.120 is to be in power to be in government and you know they have the same narrative and they're speaking
00:01:34.240 like liberals and like leftists uh that's because they want to have the support of the left and i believe
00:01:40.000 that the real conservative voters are looking at us like the real option on a lot of issues uh speaking
00:01:46.960 by more freedom and saying no to lockdown saying no to vaccine passports we are the only one that is
00:01:53.600 ready to fight for freedoms and for canadians so that being said i don't know what the conservative
00:01:59.200 party will do after this election uh but for me uh if they are not winning if they don't win a
00:02:06.000 minority or majority it's not because of us it's because the conservative party of canada is not
00:02:11.440 conservative and and for us we will always fight for what we believe and this political party this
00:02:18.720 movement will grow we won't do the mistake that the reform party did uh preston manning did you know
00:02:24.880 preston was a principal politician and i admired him but you know he was the leader of the opposition
00:02:32.320 and he wanted to be prime minister and they merged and then at the end they didn't have the same
00:02:38.320 philosophy so for us the people's party of canada is there for the long term that election it's an
00:02:44.240 important step for us and i think for canadians it will be a historical election so uh i don't know
00:02:51.760 but i believe you know our goal in the beginning of the campaign was to grow a percentage of the vote
00:02:56.720 uh from 1.6 and i said to my candidates if we have on average all across the country four percent i'll be
00:03:03.600 happy but i believe it would be more than that i believe that some candidates can be elected
00:03:08.800 and i believe that we'll be able to beat the greens and having more support than the green
00:03:14.400 so and i hope that everything will go well for us and we'll have a couple of candidates elected
00:03:20.080 if not we will do the same thing i'll be on a campaign trail after this election and traveling
00:03:26.080 across the country and to build uh build our movement and our political party all across the
00:03:32.160 the country because i believe that will be an election maybe in two years if we have a majority
00:03:37.280 minority government so one thing i observed of your campaign was your adoption of alternative
00:03:43.120 media uh you went on to several podcasts and use longer form discussions to try and speak to your
00:03:48.640 base you were just on the jordan peterson podcast and previously you did a show with michael malice
00:03:53.680 so given that you've clearly had success in using new media to reach out to your base do you think
00:03:58.400 that in the future we're going to see other political leaders party leaders adopt your same
00:04:03.840 alternative media strategy i don't know uh you know what they they don't want all these uh
00:04:11.280 establishment political leaders they don't want to have a real discussion with canadians they try to
00:04:16.240 appeal to your emotions during a campaign and after a campaign with a sound bite and clips and
00:04:22.800 and for us like i said we are doing politics differently i'm not afraid to speak about our platform and
00:04:28.160 uh taboo subject for some someone and uh there's no taboo subject for us so yes that's why i'm able to
00:04:35.520 do this kind of a podcast and having a discussion for one hour and 30 minutes with jordan peterson as
00:04:42.640 you know jordan peterson said and wrote that he asked erin o'too to come and he wrote erin o'too declined
00:04:49.120 and to decline to be with him because they cannot have that the way that they're doing politics they
00:04:54.240 don't want to sit and having a real conversation about their platform they're doing politics based
00:04:59.280 on survey and poolings and that's why people are fed up with that we are doing politics by conviction
00:05:05.360 if i'm speaking about something that is not popular i will speak about it because i believe that we have
00:05:10.960 the best ideas and until we have a majority uh and so but traditional politician if they're a subject
00:05:17.600 like i don't know um you know mask mask mandates if they don't have the majority on their side they
00:05:25.440 won't speak against that for us we are doing politics differently because we try to appeal to the
00:05:31.280 intelligence of people and also to explain our policies and to inform people and i believe if we
00:05:37.600 have on a subject only 10 percent of support we will speak about it openly with passion and conviction
00:05:43.520 and we'll have more people because we believe that we have the best ideas and the best the best vision
00:05:49.440 for this country based on the four principles of our party individual freedom personal responsibility
00:05:55.280 respect and fairness so i don't believe that answering your question that these traditional
00:06:00.720 politicians will use social media because you have to be honest and authentic if you want to use social
00:06:08.480 media and they're not so i want to kind of switch gears here and ask you about something that i felt
00:06:13.200 got very little attention during this election and that's the state of our military you know we have
00:06:17.360 a depleted demoralized understaffed and out of date military and you know we have a fighter jet
00:06:22.720 procurement system for example which is a total joke and and uh like a fleet of submarines that are
00:06:28.080 barely usable and on top of that our our closest allies just signed a defense agreement without us
00:06:33.840 leaving us behind how is it that our once feared military is in this position and and why does it feel
00:06:40.320 like it's such a non-issue at the federal level well it's a non-issue because they're doing polling and
00:06:45.280 it's not popular with the population they don't want to speak about that we think that it's important
00:06:51.440 and yes our party we want to balance the budget in four years and will be fiscally responsible
00:06:58.160 who tool and to do they are not and for the canadian forces yes we must reinvest in our canadian forces
00:07:04.320 we must try to achieve the target of two percent of our gdp but i can tell you it won't happen a first
00:07:10.640 mandate of the people's party of canada because we have to fix our budget we have to balance the budget
00:07:17.040 and we'll do that without increasing taxes uh but by cutting cutting foreign aid five billion dollars
00:07:23.360 that we can save cutting corporate welfare we can save between eight to ten billion dollars uh cutting the
00:07:29.600 cbc with so we know what to do to balance the budget in four years we'll do that but we know
00:07:34.800 also that we must reinvest in reinvest reinvest in our canadian forces and that would be a priority
00:07:41.920 after balancing the budget you know all these the liberals and the conservative during this campaign
00:07:47.680 they were there to buy your votes with money that we don't have a lot of promises uh because you know
00:07:54.800 that's the way that they're doing politics what we'll do will cut all these promises that they did
00:08:00.160 and what will happen it will be the inflation we have the inflation tax right now people must
00:08:05.200 understand that that huge deficit of 354 billion dollars it's not our children and grandchildren that
00:08:12.880 will pay for it it is us right now by the inflation tax the inflation is about 4.2 percent in canada
00:08:19.840 uh if you do your grocery it's about six seven percent inflation is a hidden tax instead of taking
00:08:26.480 your own money in your own pockets and forcing you to give that to the government by taxing you the
00:08:32.080 government and o'toole and trudeau they're telling keep your money in your pockets but you won't be able
00:08:37.520 to buy the same amount of goods and services with your money your purchasing power is going down
00:08:43.360 your standard of living is going down inflation is a hidden tax the worst of all taxes and we will
00:08:50.720 fight that and now what they said during this campaign the conservative the liberal they will
00:08:55.600 spend more money they won't balance the budget they will increase our debt for the next 10 years
00:09:00.640 and we will have to pay that inflation tax right now that it's about five percent maybe in six months
00:09:06.720 it will be eight nine percent and that's a disaster we need to do politics differently and to
00:09:12.720 to tell the truth to canadians so that's why i believe that yes we must reinvest in our canadian
00:09:18.560 forces but i'm honest with you we won't be able to do that on a first mandate so i want to ask you
00:09:24.080 about national unity and i think a lot of canadians would agree that we do have a unity problem in this
00:09:28.800 country we have two separatist movements in two very different parts of the parts of the country uh
00:09:33.840 born out of different frustrations and on top of that almost all the provinces have now introduced
00:09:38.640 a vaccine mandate system which will only further divide canadians how would we possibly try and
00:09:43.840 unify this country and what would the ppc strategy be to do that yeah we won't uh we won't uh divided
00:09:51.680 people by by race by gender and now by vaccination status we won't do that our goal is to unite every
00:09:59.280 canadian under the freedom umbrella everybody must be free to choose if they want the vaccine or not
00:10:05.040 we respect everybody that's the freedom of choice same thing for mass mandate and that's an important
00:10:11.520 issue for this election but yes you're absolutely right about this country right now the unity and
00:10:19.120 it's a little bit sad that i'm the only one that had that has a solution for the unity of our country
00:10:25.840 when you have western canadians and you have western alienation and we have like you said about 30 of
00:10:32.080 the population in alberta that are ready to separate we need to address that who tool and
00:10:39.280 trudeau they won't speak about that i'm doing interviews uh in toronto and or in eastern canada
00:10:46.000 and i said you know do you know people in western canada they're not so happy with the situation
00:10:50.240 they didn't know that because nobody's speaking about that except ourselves so yes we have a solution
00:10:55.200 the solution is to respect the constitution if you respect the constitution you'll have a radical
00:11:00.160 decentralization provinces like alberta would have more autonomy you need to be able also to to build
00:11:06.720 pipelines in this country we are for that we need to change the equalization formula to be less
00:11:12.160 generous to give the right incentive to other provinces like my own province in quebec to develop
00:11:18.480 their own natural resources as you know that formula is a poverty trap quebec received equalization
00:11:25.280 money since the beginning of that program 1957 so we must stop that quebec is not a poor province i'm
00:11:33.520 the only one who bring that discussion uh but the other don't want because they will have to explain
00:11:40.160 that they will have to tell the truth and it you can explain that in a five second uh sound bite you
00:11:46.800 can do that so we are doing that and that's why you know it will take maybe more time but i'm speaking
00:11:53.200 about the unity issue in western canada but also in quebec and in atlantic canada and actually as you
00:12:00.240 saw in the pool we have a lot of support in atlantic canada we don't do any polling until internally
00:12:06.960 i'm looking at the public polls and in atlantic canada we're supposed to be around 14 percent
00:12:12.320 and in alberta about the same so when you tell the truth based on facts people you know can understand
00:12:18.720 i believe that canadians are not children that you must regulate and you know no they're adult they
00:12:25.200 must be responsible adult and that's why we are doing that we are telling the truth and we know that
00:12:32.000 it can take more time but my goal is not to be in government tomorrow like erin utul my goal is for
00:12:38.720 our ideas to win the battle of ideas we are in the middle of a socialist era in canada and all across
00:12:46.480 other countries also we need to fight and we need to win that ideological revolution and we will so
00:12:53.760 that's why i believe tonight you know if we have five six percent of the vote it will be a big
00:13:00.720 victory for the people's party and the next step will grow again and you can you can count on us on
00:13:06.480 me after this campaign i'll be back in the road on the street and i will fight with canadians in ottawa but
00:13:15.680 also in the street because we will have to do more protests if you have a liberal government or a
00:13:21.680 conservative government they will they will both of them are ready to violate our our rights and
00:13:28.560 freedoms and we must act we must tell them you know we don't want to live in a country when you do a
00:13:36.160 segregation and and discrimination with with canadians and that's happening right now with the vaccine
00:13:42.480 passport uh you know we must fight for everybody and we'll do that and i believe that vaccinated
00:13:48.240 people like unvaccinated people know that you know the the direction of our country
00:13:55.360 that direction it's not the the one that we want we are going to more socialism and and and more
00:14:03.200 communism and we need to go back to our funding principles and that's about all that we need to do
00:14:09.680 after this election so i actually want to ask you about that as sort of the one of the final
00:14:13.680 questions i have and it's about your vision for canada so often in in politics party leaders are
00:14:19.200 forced to talk about whatever's in the news cycle and we never really get to hear their their grand
00:14:23.280 vision for this country but i want to frame it in this context so what would you say to a canadian that
00:14:28.560 looks at this country and sees a country that is no longer what it once was that sees it standing
00:14:33.280 on the world stage dropping precipitously that sees fewer economic opportunities available to them and and
00:14:39.120 sees their freedoms eroding um what would you say to that canadian to motivate them about the future
00:14:44.240 and what is your grand vision for canada what what what can canada become well first of all you know
00:14:49.680 i believe that the problem in canada is the government and and more government intervention in
00:14:56.000 our day-to-day life and our position on that we are putting canadian first and our country first but
00:15:02.640 that's not a slogan that's the reality by you know uh working on our own agenda not the un agenda the
00:15:10.400 socialist agenda our own agenda keeping our sovereignty i see that country in the near future
00:15:16.560 if we win that battle of ideas and i believe we win because you know the truth uh always win and we
00:15:24.880 will but i don't know when but that election is a big step toward that that so you know i believe in a
00:15:31.040 smaller government in ottawa that will respect individual rights that will respect people that
00:15:36.800 will look at canadians as responsible adults a smaller government that won't interfere in provincial
00:15:43.120 jurisdiction well you will have constitutional peace in this country uh and and and doing that you'll have
00:15:50.400 more autonomy for every province you know in quebec uh they have their pension fund they have their police
00:15:56.400 force uh why alberta or another province cannot have that they can't we need to have a more
00:16:02.880 decentralized country like the father of our constitution wanted to to to be and if you respect
00:16:09.120 the constitution you'll have that radical decentralization so i believe that you know a more
00:16:15.200 a smaller government ottawa that will um that will give more autonomy to provinces and at the same time
00:16:24.080 will have a more prosperous and a freer country i want our country to be back what we were before
00:16:31.120 coven 19 and maybe more before that when we had more freedoms and and now we don't we don't
00:16:40.080 so it's sad the situation of today because i believe it can be worse before being better with these mask
00:16:48.720 mandates and vaccine passport uh it would be all over the country it's in quebec right now in force
00:16:55.040 and it would be in ontario it would be in alberta in bc because the federal government and othul and
00:17:00.880 trudeau they're ready to spend a billion dollars that we don't have to force provinces to implement
00:17:05.920 the vaccine passport so uh that's why and also on immigration you know we are the only party that is
00:17:13.280 against mass immigration for sustainable immigration that's why we need to have the discussion
00:17:18.080 on immigration also right now because we love this country and we want this country to be like that
00:17:23.600 in 25 years you know i'm looking what is happening in europe in france when you have no goes on there
00:17:29.760 we don't want that in our country that's why you want fewer immigrants most more of them must be skilled 1.00
00:17:36.000 immigrants and we need to fix the the border at the roxham road in quebec so there's a lot of 1.00
00:17:42.000 challenges but if we speak about it and and if people are putting their their vote where what they
00:17:51.680 believe in and i'm telling people don't vote against something for this election vote for something vote
00:17:57.520 for your values vote for us for the ppc look at our platform and so that argument about spitting the vote
00:18:04.480 it's it's very you know uh it's a little bit when i i i saw the conservative at the end of the campaign
00:18:11.680 saying to everybody don't vote for the ppc you will split the vote no you won't split the vote because
00:18:17.200 utul is not conservative and people don't understand that and they need they need to send a strong
00:18:22.480 message in ottawa and i believe that the people's party of canada will be the real opposition we won't
00:18:29.280 be the official opposition in ottawa after this election but we will be the real opposition the
00:18:35.360 real ideological opposition in this country and people i believe need us and we need their support
00:18:42.560 so that's why this battle it's only the first step and and we'll see what will happen but we can we can
00:18:49.760 if everybody works together under the freedom umbrella we can be able to gain back our country
00:18:56.480 so it is election night and before you go we'd be wrong to not ask you for a prediction about
00:19:00.240 what's going to happen tonight what do you think is going to happen for you and your party first uh
00:19:06.880 i've been told by my people in both it's very tight for me in both over there i don't know what will
00:19:11.760 happen i believe that we'll have at least four five six percent of the votes that will be a huge victory
00:19:18.480 maybe more than that and maybe a couple of our candidates selected but the most important the
00:19:23.920 mainstream media won't be able to ignore us anymore uh but you know we were able to grow without them
00:19:30.560 because of our using social media podcasts youtube and all these uh real i say you know alternative
00:19:38.720 media but real independent media so we will focus there uh for me um just before the vote i feel very
00:19:47.360 good i did everything that i had to do i travel across the country we did rallies i did my best and we'll
00:19:53.600 see what will happen but i'm pretty confident that this this election will be an historical one for
00:19:59.600 the people's party and maybe for the country well thank you for the time mr bernier best of luck tonight
00:20:04.400 you'll see thank you very much