Juno News - August 17, 2022


The government can’t create jobs!


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In the era of the post-combie recovery, we ve heard a lot from politicians who are really sanguine about their ability to create jobs. They claim that if the government spends money during recessions or during down economic times, they can stimulate the economy by creating jobs. But is this theory correct? Is there any truth behind it?

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00:00:00.000 I'm Jasmine Moulton and this is Reality Check.
00:00:10.040 Reality Check is a new show here at True North where we'll equip you with the facts that you
00:00:14.160 need to debunk the most common arguments of leftists. In the era of Build Back Better in
00:00:19.000 the post-COVID recovery, we've heard a lot from politicians who are really sanguine about their
00:00:23.480 ability to create jobs. Take a listen. Create more jobs. Creating more steady,
00:00:28.620 well-paying jobs. Creating good jobs. 380,000 jobs. Creating good middle-class jobs. We have a
00:00:36.260 million jobs to fill. Our plan will create jobs. Create great, well-paying, local jobs. And create
00:00:44.300 tens of thousands of jobs. To invest in the jobs of the future. Our top priority is getting as many
00:00:51.440 people back to work in good jobs. And to create jobs. We just heard from a variety of Canadian
00:00:56.940 politicians from across the political spectrum, all saying that their government was able to
00:01:01.700 create jobs by spending your money. This is Keynesian economic theory that if the government
00:01:06.820 spends money during recessions or during down economic times, they can stimulate the economy
00:01:12.120 by quote-unquote creating jobs. Now they claim to create jobs in two different ways. One is through
00:01:17.740 creating jobs directly. That's if they create a thousand jobs by hiring a thousand teachers,
00:01:22.500 for example. They also claim to create jobs indirectly. That's through infrastructure spending.
00:01:28.380 These aren't direct employees, but it could create construction jobs, for example. So while
00:01:33.420 politicians will claim that they're creating jobs either directly or indirectly, your argument is
00:01:38.900 that on net, there's actually job losses. The key here is to really look at opportunity costs. So
00:01:45.260 if they've taken all of that money out of the economy, they've spent that money to quote-unquote
00:01:50.160 create their jobs, how many jobs were lost because of the money that they've removed from the economy? 0.99
00:01:55.600 The government can only get money in three main ways. Taxation, by printing it, or by borrowing it.
00:02:00.120 And all of these three things create unemployment. Consider taxation, either a personal income tax or
00:02:05.540 corporate income tax. Both of those things remove disposable income out of the pockets of
00:02:10.300 either individuals or businesses. In the case of individuals, that means that they now have less
00:02:15.360 money in their pocket to stimulate the economy on their own, to buy goods and services that would
00:02:20.680 create jobs. When you look at corporations, for example, they're not just going to take a hit
00:02:25.840 that increased taxation would give them. So they're either going to raise the cost of their goods,
00:02:30.860 decrease or stagnate wages, or even eliminate jobs. And all of those things would decrease
00:02:35.720 employment. Yet politicians of all political stripes are still addicted to the ribbon-cutting
00:02:40.820 announcement that they've created jobs or they've made investments. Because at first, the results are
00:02:46.500 highly visible. If you've given a thousand people money to work, then everybody can see that you've
00:02:52.040 quote-unquote created a thousand jobs. But because the negative side effects of that are so widely
00:02:57.620 dispersed across the economy, it's far more difficult to point out the opportunity costs.
00:03:02.220 The reason why the government will always destroy more jobs than it creates by taking money out of the
00:03:06.700 economy is because of this simple principle. Nobody spends somebody else's money as carefully
00:03:12.120 as he spends his own. Because you've worked hard for your money, you want to spend it as wisely as
00:03:16.680 possible and make sure you get the best return on your investment. But the politicians and bureaucrats
00:03:20.940 spending your hard-earned tax dollars have different incentives. Perhaps re-election, so they want
00:03:26.100 short-term positive news stories like ribbon-cutting and quote-unquote job creation. Or in the
00:03:31.600 bureaucrats example, perhaps they just don't want their budget slashed next year, so they're
00:03:35.420 incentivized to spend through the entire thing. So while politicians may claim to be investing,
00:03:40.700 and you'll hear that word so often, economist Ricardo Caballero said that investing means
00:03:45.640 trading the present for the future. But politicians often take the exact opposite approach when it comes
00:03:51.440 to quote-unquote investing. You'll always hear politicians say that they're making investments
00:03:55.940 for the future, but really what they're doing is short-term spending that's beneficial now,
00:04:01.000 and that actually will be quite costly and not the best decision for taxpayers in
00:04:05.380 the future. As famed economist Thomas Sowell says,
00:04:08.700 it's hard to imagine a more stupid or a more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting 0.99
00:04:13.520 those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong. This rings especially true 1.00
00:04:19.000 for the politicians that we seem to have in Ottawa today, and it's hardly surprising that they make
00:04:23.580 so many errors when it comes to quote-unquote job creation in our economy when you look at their
00:04:29.240 background. So let's take a quick look. Let's start with Justin Trudeau, Canada's current Prime Minister.
00:04:33.840 Take a listen to this clip of him from 2014. It was the year before he was elected Prime Minister
00:04:39.000 in Canada. So in this economic climate, how committed to a balanced budget would you be
00:04:45.380 right now? Would it worry you to go into deficit in this current climate to, as you say, put more
00:04:50.040 people to work? The commitment needs to be a commitment to grow the economy, and the budget
00:04:55.340 will balance itself. He honestly believes that government spending is the path to prosperity.
00:05:00.000 That's terrifying. But when you look at his background, it's hardly surprising that he's so ill-informed
00:05:05.320 about economics. He didn't have any formal training in economics. In fact, he didn't have any real
00:05:09.920 business experience at all. He was a teacher for a few years before getting into politics.
00:05:15.080 Next up, if you look at Federal Finance Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland,
00:05:20.040 while her resume is very impressive as a journalist, she too lacks the business credentials that she could
00:05:26.020 draw on to justify these grandiose claims she makes about her ability to create jobs in Canada.
00:05:32.080 True North actually did some great reporting on this and found that more than half of Trudeau's
00:05:36.960 cabinet have zero business experience. That said, Canada is a democracy. And while we don't vote for
00:05:42.440 the specific roles of who gets to fill prime minister or the rest of cabinet, Canadians did elect
00:05:47.280 a liberal government led by Justin Trudeau, who clearly lacks very fundamental economics and business
00:05:53.960 training or experience. And that shows when it comes to his abysmal track record on his promises to
00:05:59.460 quote unquote, create jobs. But it's worth going through step by step why the government actually
00:06:04.560 cannot create jobs. Because as I said, politicians of all political stripes in this country are guilty
00:06:09.840 of this claim. So on today's show, we're going to debunk this idea that government can create jobs.
00:06:14.620 And we're going to go through all three arguments as to why they can't. One, it's unproven. Two,
00:06:19.780 it's wasteful. And three, it's unsustainable. Here's argument number one. When the government hands out
00:06:24.680 taxpayer money to private businesses, this is called corporate welfare, and it is extremely
00:06:30.100 wasteful. Now, while the government likes to claim that they're investing in jobs and growth,
00:06:35.180 what's actually happening in plain English is that they're taking money out of taxpayers' pockets like
00:06:40.140 yours and mine, or from small businesses, and most often handing it over to large multinational
00:06:45.860 corporations with pretty big bottom lines. Let's take a look at a few examples. Number one,
00:06:50.640 Bombardier. In 2017, the government gave Bombardier a $373 million bailout. This was from the Trudeau
00:06:58.860 government. And also the Quebec government pitched in an extra $1 billion. Then Bombardier turned around
00:07:04.640 and laid off 3,000 Canadian workers just 18 months later. Obviously, it's really hard to suggest that
00:07:11.540 this was a job creation strategy, and it's a terrible return on investment. Number two,
00:07:16.540 Loblaws. The Trudeau government handed over Loblaws, a massive company in Canada, $12 million to upgrade
00:07:23.380 their freezers. Fast forward about a year later, the company lays off about 700 employees in its
00:07:29.660 Quebec and Ontario distribution centers, citing increased automation as a reason that they didn't
00:07:35.140 need them anymore. At this point, it almost seems like the government is paying large organizations to
00:07:39.500 lay off its workers. But let's carry on. Number three, Maple Leaf. The Ontario and federal governments
00:07:44.660 jointly gave Maple Leaf Foods $55 million of taxpayer money to go toward a poultry processing
00:07:50.660 facility in London, Ontario. The only problem is that the company decided to shut down three other
00:07:56.380 plants in the surrounding area and amalgamate them into one. And in doing so, they laid off 300 workers.
00:08:02.660 Number four, the Ford Motor Company. Ontario Premier Doug Ford and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
00:08:07.880 jointly gave $590 million of taxpayer money to the Ford Motor Company to retool its Oakville plant for electric
00:08:16.480 vehicle production. But once the plant is retooled, the plant will require 400 fewer workers. As Ronald Reagan
00:08:24.000 said, government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps
00:08:30.720 moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. This, of course, would be a terrible approach to economic
00:08:36.100 growth, which is why it's so baffling that politicians in this country stand by this practice.
00:08:40.380 So to sum up, the government taking our taxpayer dollars and giving it to large organizations that
00:08:45.260 often just use the money to increase their bottom line and end up laying off workers anyway, obviously
00:08:50.180 extremely wasteful. Moving on, let's go to argument two. The government's track record on quote unquote
00:08:55.140 creating jobs is unproven. Politicians love to make grandiose claims at the ribbon cutting when they're
00:09:00.280 announcing that they're creating jobs, but they almost never follow up to check on the progress. How many jobs
00:09:06.000 were actually created? And is this good value for money? Under the Trudeau government, two key pillars of their
00:09:11.540 quote unquote job creation strategy include one, the super clusters program, and two, the Canada Infrastructure
00:09:19.200 Bank. So let's take a quick look at how either of these programs have performed. The super clusters program was
00:09:23.820 essentially designed to help groups commercialize their R&D, their research and development. It was introduced in
00:09:29.320 2017, and the government committed just under $1 billion to the program. The government claimed that in 10 years, this
00:09:35.780 nearly $1 billion that they had invested would increase GDP by $50 billion and also create 50,000
00:09:44.020 jobs. Five years later, it came out, and this was reported by Blacklock's reporter, that an internal
00:09:49.480 audit confirmed that the job creation claims about the $1 billion super cluster subsidy were quote
00:09:55.640 fabricated and 100% unverifiable. Auditors wrote that they could not validate the total number of jobs
00:10:02.800 created. In October of 2020, the Canadian government under Justin Trudeau allocated $10 billion within the
00:10:08.960 Canadian Infrastructure Bank and claimed that in three years that would create 60,000 jobs. The only
00:10:16.000 problem is the Canadian Infrastructure Bank actually had a budget of $35 billion, but in its first three
00:10:21.580 years couldn't figure out how to spend anything on any project, although they did bonus out their executive
00:10:27.120 team pretty well. As a Fraser Institute report says, despite shovel-ready claims, government is almost
00:10:32.720 never able to act quickly enough for this type of stimulus to have a positive effect on the economy.
00:10:37.840 The spending often arrives after the recovery has already begun, which results in the stimulus
00:10:42.740 competing with the private sector, actually impeding economic growth. It's no wonder that the House of
00:10:48.680 Commons Transport Committee this past May had a report that had one recommendation, which was to
00:10:54.060 abolish the Canada Infrastructure Bank. While these prices roll off the tongue pretty easily, that is a
00:10:59.420 lot of money, billions and billions of dollars taken out of the Canadian economy, essentially for Justin
00:11:05.260 Trudeau to play his hand at Investment Banker. And we have no idea how many, if any, jobs were created.
00:11:10.940 And sadly, on the flip side, we also don't know how many jobs were lost because that money was extracted
00:11:15.480 out of the economy. So to recap argument two, governments make big claims that they're going to create
00:11:20.580 tens of thousands of jobs, but they never follow up and measure how many were actually created.
00:11:25.460 So now let's move on to our third and final argument, which is that governments creating jobs
00:11:29.700 is unsustainable. When you hear politicians talk about how many jobs that they've created,
00:11:34.420 you should be very skeptical. Usually you should try to distinguish how many of those jobs are
00:11:38.740 government jobs or in the private sector. Now, according to Statistics Canada, and I'll put a chart on the
00:11:44.760 screen here, but for our audio only listeners, Justin Trudeau may be boasting about job creation
00:11:51.080 following the start of the pandemic, but Statistics Canada has just released a report showing employment
00:11:56.800 from February of 2020 to July of 2022. So just over two years, while 422,000, nearly 423,000 jobs have
00:12:07.320 been quote unquote created, the vast majority, nearly 87% of those jobs are in the public sector.
00:12:15.340 On the flip side, only about 13% of those jobs are in the private sector. That means that while
00:12:20.540 367,000 new government employees or bureaucrats have been hired, there's only 56,000 people outside
00:12:29.620 of government now working to pay for their salaries. Does that sound sustainable to you? The Fraser Institute
00:12:34.440 has actually done some incredible work on this question of what percentage of the population
00:12:38.840 works for government versus outside of government. And what they found over the past few decades is
00:12:43.740 that it ranges from anywhere 20% to 25% of the workforce in Canada works in the public sector or
00:12:50.700 for government. And if you are a government employee, obviously that money doesn't just come from quote the
00:12:55.620 government, but it comes out of taxpayers pockets who do not work in government. So now essentially you have
00:13:00.980 about 75% of the population who do not work for government paying for the entire freight of all
00:13:07.640 of the government employees in this country. The Fraser Institute report on public sector employment in
00:13:12.860 Canada states this, empirical research points to a so-called crowding out effect where employment
00:13:18.620 through public sector job creation is offset by a reduction in private sector employment elsewhere in
00:13:23.340 the economy. This is a concern because it's the private sector through investment and innovation
00:13:28.420 that ultimately generates the wealth and taxes needed to provide the public services that we all
00:13:33.280 hold dear. And this is exactly the point. Job growth and job creation really should be happening in the
00:13:39.720 private sector because it's what pays for the entirety of the public sector. You can't grow the public
00:13:44.900 sector if the private sector is contracting. The Federal Treasury Board, which you can kind of think of as
00:13:50.340 the HR of the federal government, they released some rather alarming statistics as well. Full-time
00:13:56.620 bureaucrats have increased by 44,000, nearly 45,000 or 13% in the last five years, while federal
00:14:04.360 government spending is up by 79%. A lot of Canadians think that they pay the high taxes that they do for
00:14:10.560 our healthcare system and our education system. But if you think about it, the federal government doesn't
00:14:16.000 administer those services. Neither of them, both education and healthcare are administered by the
00:14:21.100 provinces. So nurses, doctors, they don't work for the federal government. So who are these 45,000
00:14:26.620 new employees for the federal government that we've amassed over the last five years? And another
00:14:31.600 relevant question is who's going to be paying for all of these new bureaucrats? Because as a Fraser
00:14:36.640 Institute report has found, business investment in Canada is on the decline. And business investment,
00:14:42.520 not government spending, is what really will be an indicator of future economic growth. It should
00:14:47.120 really worry everyone that business investment in Canada is at such low levels. If you look at this
00:14:52.060 chart that the Fraser Institute put out comparing Canada's levels of business investment compared to
00:14:57.040 other OECD countries, the prospects look pretty grim. And again, these are the real job creators,
00:15:04.040 not the government that can take other people's money and pretend to be investing in creating jobs.
00:15:08.540 But these are people who are actually going to cause the future economic growth that this country
00:15:13.340 needs. The government of Canada can pay 10,000 workers to dig a hole one day and fill it in the next,
00:15:18.900 and their job numbers will look great. But that doesn't say anything for the sustainability of
00:15:23.340 those jobs. Essentially, they'll just last as long as the government funding does. And it does
00:15:27.380 nothing to improve productivity in this country. Okay, so let's do a quick recap of the leftist
00:15:31.880 argument and then our arguments against it. It is a leftist argument made by politicians of all
00:15:37.600 political stripes in Canada that the government can create jobs. They'll say that more government
00:15:42.320 spending is needed in times of economic crisis in order to bring about an economic recovery. But here's
00:15:47.580 the truth. The government does not create jobs, it cannot create jobs, and it never will be able
00:15:51.940 to create jobs. And here are your arguments to counter those claims. One, the government has a
00:15:56.140 terrible track record of creating jobs, and its attempts to do so often create more harm than good.
00:16:00.780 Number two, the government doesn't measure its success and often has no proof to back up its claims.
00:16:04.920 And number three, too many government jobs is unsustainable for the taxpayers paying for it outside
00:16:09.500 of government. So here's a reality check. Governments would do really well to acknowledge their own
00:16:13.600 competence and leave the investing to people who actually know how to invest properly and who care
00:16:18.620 about getting a return. And if they really want to grow Canada's economy, they should adopt policies
00:16:23.080 that encourage business investment, like lowering taxes and reducing red tape. Ultimately, the
00:16:28.060 government does not create jobs. But what it can do is adopt policies that are conducive to business
00:16:33.020 investment so that the actual job creators can create jobs. That's our show for this week. Thanks for
00:16:38.000 listening. My name is Jasmine Moulton. And don't forget to tune in next Wednesday for another episode of
00:16:42.460 Reality Check.