Juno News - November 08, 2022
The government should leave the internet alone
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Summary
Since Elon Musk took over Twitter, the left has been losing its collective mind. They worry that the platform will devolve into a haven for hate speech and vile comments. A new study from the University of Saskatchewan suggests that there is a strong relationship between a person s political perspective and their views on free speech in Canada.
Transcript
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Leftist politicians in Canada think they should choose what we get to see on the internet.
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I'm Jasmine Moulin and it's time for a reality check.
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Just before we get started with today's show, a quick announcement from me. Today will be the
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last episode of this season of reality check. So thank you all so much for your support. I've
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really enjoyed reading your positive comments about the show. I'm so glad you enjoyed it,
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but I'm not going anywhere. So stay tuned for what's next with True North. On today's show,
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we're going to be talking about free speech and the internet because ever since Elon Musk finally
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took over Twitter, the left has been losing its collective mind. Musk has stated before that he's
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a quote, free speech absolutist. And this has a lot of leftists worrying that the platform is going to
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devolve into one for hate speech and vile comments. Now, free speech should be a principle that all
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Canadians can rally behind. But as of late leftists have decried free speech as just hate speech with
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impunity. As a result, they argue that the government should curtail or limit freedom of expression in
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Canada. So to protect the vulnerable, a study from the university of Saskatchewan suggests that there's
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actually a strong relationship between a person's political perspective and their views on free speech
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in Canada. The study shows that 98% of left-leaning respondents wanted limits on free speech in Canada.
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And also left-leaning respondents were far more likely than right-leaning respondents to say that
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government and corporations should have the power to curtail misinformation and hate speech.
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So before we get into why this is concerning, perhaps we should take a quick background look at freedom
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of expression and the concept of hate speech in Canada. In Canada, your freedom of expression is
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safeguarded by the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms, but there's a catch. The preamble to the
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charter of rights and freedom states that this freedom is subject to reasonable limits. So you
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don't have the freedom to express anything you want in Canada because it's technically illegal to say
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anything that quote willfully promotes hatred. And this is actually a really important distinction
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between Canada and the US because you might think that we have the same free speech or freedom of
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expression in Canada and the US, but there's actually quite a big difference between those laws.
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So in Canada, hate speech is illegal, but in the United States, the first amendment actually protects
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freedom of speech, including the right to express hateful comments and offensive opinions. As Tristan
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Hopper points out in the national post, unlike in the US, you can actually go to jail in Canada for
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saying the wrong thing. All right. So now that we have a bit of a background, just to clear the air
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on freedom of expression in Canada, there are two current bills before parliament in Canada that are
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raising alarm bells. The first is bill C-11, and this is a bill that provides the CRTC with the power
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to regulate online publishing and require streaming platforms like YouTube and Netflix to show Canadian
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content more than they do right now. So this bill actually passed third reading in the house, which means it's
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passed through, it was voted, it was approved through the house of commons and now it's moved
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on to the Senate. It moved on actually last month in October. The second bill is bill C-18 and this bill
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would require tech giants like Facebook and Google to negotiate deals to pay legacy media outlets in
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order to make their news content available on those platforms. So this bill has passed second reading in
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the house of commons. And so it's currently before committee still in the house. Unsurprisingly,
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I think both of these bills are terrible ideas and I'm certainly not alone on this. In fact, Canadian
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YouTuber, JJ McCullough, I highly recommend looking for some of his content, a quick search on Google or
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YouTube, you'll find a ton of it, him speaking out against bill C-11. Now he's a successful Canadian
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YouTuber who has reached a good deal of success without any sort of help from government regulation.
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And so he offers some really interesting insights into why Canada just simply does not need this
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legislation. One of the points he makes is that adding CRTC regulation over online content will
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actually add quite a barrier to entry for any voice, any Canadian creator wanting to launch a YouTube
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channel. So there's a lot of boxes you have to check, a lot of hoops essentially that you have
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to jump through to prove the extent of your Canadian-ness. In fact, the idea that we need the
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government to add all these layers of bureaucracy and get its hand meddling in the YouTube world or
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in fact, any online content creation, it's just so ridiculous because right now there are no barriers
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to entry for Canadian creators. You can sit in your basement and record a YouTube video,
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pop it up online. And if it's popular, if people enjoy your content, then it will be viewed. There
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are many, many, many successful Canadian content creators, and they haven't relied on government to
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reach that level of success. So this law is just simply not needed. And in fact, it would be
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counterproductive by creating barriers to entry for new creators. Moving on bill C-18, the second bill,
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which would essentially force the tech giants to pay legacy media for their news coverage.
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That's obviously a terrible idea and you need look no further than what happened in Australia when the
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Australian government tried to do this. As the BBC reports, Facebook blocked Australian users from
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sharing or viewing news content on the platform in response to a proposed law, which would make tech
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giants pay for news content on those platforms. So essentially the government said to Facebook,
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you've got to start paying legacy media. They said no and pulled out of that country. And there's
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nothing to say that they couldn't do the exact same thing here in Canada. So if you're trying to
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promote Canadian content and Canadian news, well, it's not going to do anyone any favors if Canadians
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can't access it on Facebook. So while there are obvious problems with these laws, they're both
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redundant and counterproductive, they actually reveal some more common problems with leftist thought
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in general, namely that they're against individual choice. It really should not be that complicated
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an issue that Canadians should be able to choose what they want to watch online. And it's a bit of an
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insult to all Canadian creators to suggest that Canadians wouldn't want to choose their content
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anyway, which they're currently doing, that they need the government to help promote it. Additionally,
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this shows the leftist propensity to subsidize dying industries. If an industry is dying, there's
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probably a reason. Maybe it needs to change. Maybe it needs to innovate. There are many successful media
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companies outside the legacy or traditional media that have been thriving in the same environment,
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the same time that the legacy media is failing. So instead of the government perpetually asking how
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it can take more money from taxpayers and give it to the failing legacy media, what they ought to be
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doing is saying, how can you innovate to perhaps create content that Canadians want to see and want to
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pay for. But ultimately these bills are about increasing government control over what Canadians can see
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and the content that we can consume. And that's terrible for Canadian democracy. This show is about
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debunking leftist myths. So what are some of the leftist myths or the thoughts that underlie these
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two terrible online censorship bills? The first leftist myth is that freedom of expression is actually
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just a way to allow for hate speech with impunity. Leftist politicians have argued that online censorship
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is necessary to protect Canadians against this sort of hate speech. But this is clearly redundant
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because hate speech is already illegal in Canada. So originally the government claimed that these
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bills were about combating online harms, but illegal speech, including things like child pornography or
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terrorism, those sorts of content, those are already illegal in this country. So it really is not clear
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why this bill is necessary. And leftists tend to be fairly loose surrounding their definitions of what
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constitutes hate speech. Some would even go so far to argue that anything that's simply offensive
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is hate speech. And this is really problematic because as Canadian intellectual Dr. Jordan Peterson
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points out, you have to risk being offensive in order to think. But of course this idea is not new.
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Take a listen to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.
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But unless you have freedom of discussion over a whole society, you soon cease to have any new ideas.
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Don't you find that new ideas develop when you can talk about them with other people?
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If you can't discuss them freely because there is a correct view, you soon cease to have new ideas.
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Now the interesting thing I think in the Soviet Union is that a good deal of the different views
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come from people who have to be trained to think in the scientific sphere, because Russia would never
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have had some of her achievements. After all, she did get up the first Sputnik, unless she trained people
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to think in the scientific sphere. Now you can't train them to think in maths and science without
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having the power for thought and thinking new ideas spilling over. And it's interesting to me, you see,
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that a lot of your people who've been thinking new political thoughts unwelcome to the regime
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have often been those who've come from the scientific sphere.
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Obviously, no mainstream federal politician in Canada would ever be in support of hate speech. The issue,
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and the real question is, who gets to define what hate speech is? Because there's a real risk,
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historically we've seen this play out, that politicians or governments can actually end up just
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labeling a speech that they don't like or that's critical of them as hate speech. Now, while that
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doesn't sound like something that could happen in Canada, it sounds quite outlandish and not something
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that would happen in a free and democratic society like the one we live in here in Canada,
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a lot of Canadians were very concerned when there was the freedom convoy in Ottawa and the prime
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minister's response was to call people who were criticizing his government's pandemic policy,
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racist misogynists. Of course, in today's day and age, those labels are likely to get you canceled
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and being canceled is a really great way to stifle any sort of criticism about your government. Now,
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the second part of the argument that leftists use to say that freedom of expression should be limited,
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is that they say that it has to be limited in order to protect vulnerable groups. But historically,
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the main tool that these groups have used to overcome those hardships is freedom of expression.
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Freedom of expression has historically helped them to criticize the government suppression and secure
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rights. So thinking back to 1918 in Canada, when women secured the right to vote, women's suffrage
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was secured by speaking out loudly and critically of government. And if that sort of expression is
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suppressed, then obviously those rights can't be won. So freedom of expression really is the best tool
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against unfair treatment by the government. Next, it's false to assume that you're protecting the
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vulnerable by suppressing freedom of expression. If these views exist, they're still going to exist
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whether someone's allowed to say them online or not. The argument could be made that it's better off
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in sunlight so people can refute these arguments, debate them, have arguments in public,
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so that the best argument and the best reasoning can win out at the end of the day. If you suppress
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bad ideas, not only are they more likely to fester, but they're also more likely to grow and gain more
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attention. Because if the government's drawing attention to them by suppressing them in the first
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place, then somebody who might not have even been exposed to this bad idea now is attracted to it
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because they're curious about the government suppression of the information. This idea is explored in
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Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff's book, The Coddling of the American Mind, how good intentions
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and bad ideas are setting up a generation for failure. And they talk about how the coddling of
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the American mind certainly on the American campus through things like safe spaces, but also in general
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society through things like censorship by governments is really setting the society up for failure because
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everybody benefits when ideas are debated in the public square. And so really while government
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censorship to quote unquote protect the vulnerable might sound like an idea with a good intention,
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it actually is a bad idea that will be really detrimental in the long run for our country.
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So to conclude, instead of limiting what Canadians can see and say online, leftist politicians should
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revive a respect for freedom of expression. Free speech makes our country a better place because it allows us to
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think and talk about ideas in an open format and really discover which ideas are best. This is
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critical for any modern day democracy and putting limits on freedom of expression just stifle the
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process. Worse, it opens the door for potential abuse of these laws. Governments could easily label
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criticism as hate speech and relegating bad ideas to the darkness doesn't get rid of them. It just allows
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them to fester and grow even bigger. So here's a reality check. Canadians don't want and don't need the
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government to regulate the internet. Bill C11 and C18 are both redundant and counterproductive.
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Canadians should be able to choose what they want to hear and what they want to see. And in a vibrant
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democracy such as Canada, the government shouldn't be working on putting up barriers to freedom of
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expression. Well, that's our final show for the season of reality check. So thank you all so much
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for tuning in. I'm so glad you liked the show. As I said, I'm not going anywhere. So stick around to see
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