Juno News - The growing pushback against gender ideology (Ft. Chris Elston)

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Rupa Subramanya show.

00:00:19.020 I'm Rupa Subramanya.

00:00:20.940 Now, gender ideology is running rampant in schools across Canada. 1.00

00:00:25.000 Students are being taught some incredibly inappropriate and crazy things, all in the name of inclusion.

00:00:32.000 Here are some examples.

00:00:34.000 Planned Parenthood was recently suspended from schools in Saskatchewan after providing explicit content to the students of grade 9.

00:00:43.000 The Sex from A to Z cards were developed by the AIDS Committee of Toronto.

00:00:48.000 They are, in quotes, intended for gay, bi, and queer young people, end quote, and are described as, quote,

00:00:57.000 a fun and accessible resource that facilitates humorous and frank discussion among young people about sexuality, HIV, and STD prevention, end quote.

00:01:09.000 So far, so good.

00:01:11.000 However, the cards, unfortunately, feature explicit language about sex, sexual acts, and certain fetishes.

00:01:19.000 Here's another example.

00:01:21.000 Last September, a gender expression guide was quietly released by the Renfrew County District School Board here in Ontario.

00:01:29.000 It instructs teachers to not disclose the gender identity kids identify with to parents and guardians regardless of age if requested to do so by the child.

00:01:40.000 Now, for the longest time, conservative politicians have avoided the issue of gender ideology out of fear of being accused of being transphobic.

00:01:50.000 But parents and concerned Canadians all over the country are finally pushing back, forcing many politicians to stand up for parental rights and against gender ideology in Canada schools.

00:02:03.000 Here are a couple of examples.

00:02:05.000 The Saskatchewan government recently mandated parental consent for name and pronoun changes at school.

00:02:11.000 The Manitoba Premier says schools should inform parents if kids want to change genders.

00:02:16.000 Some recent polls show that a majority of Canadians polled believe schools should tell parents if a child switches genders.

00:02:26.000 Now, one of the most influential activists in this space in the fight against gender ideology is Chris Elston.

00:02:34.000 He is better known as Billboard Chris.

00:02:37.000 Chris has been on the front lines in the fight against gender ideology, protesting events that promote radical gender theories on children,

00:02:45.000 and it's my great pleasure to have him on the show today to talk about some of the latest developments in the gender ideology space both here in Canada and in the US.

00:02:55.000 Chris, welcome to the Rupa Subramani show.

00:02:58.000 It's a real pleasure and honor to have you with me for the first time on the show.

00:03:02.000 I want to start by asking you about the protest that you've organized outside a couple of schools in Toronto.

00:03:12.000 I believe it's coming up on September 22nd.

00:03:16.000 It's similar to the protests that you organized here in Ottawa back in June.

00:03:21.000 Could you tell us a bit about this upcoming protest in September and what you're hoping to achieve?

00:03:27.000 Sure. So I've had a few of these protests outside schools back when it was just me.

00:03:34.000 I've done this in Vancouver. I've done this in Edmonton. It was just me.

00:03:37.000 I did this in Toronto before. A few people came out with me, and it caused massive news, even though there was a couple of us,

00:03:44.000 because all of the media came out and the entire community went crazy in the beaches area of Toronto.

00:03:48.000 Then I had one in Ottawa in October 2021.

00:03:51.000 That was also crazy. A couple hundred counter-protesters. Just two people came out with me.

00:03:56.000 So fast forward about a year and a half from those initial school protests that I had.

00:04:01.000 The last one in Ottawa had probably close to 500 people supporting me and Josh Alexander,

00:04:07.000 this amazing student activist who got kicked out of Catholic school because he refuses to yield to the cult of gender.

00:04:17.000 And he stood up for some girls that didn't want boys in the bathroom.

00:04:20.000 And he's just not going to lie and say there are two more sexes.

00:04:23.000 So he got kicked out of school.

00:04:25.000 But we had this protest in Ottawa. It was great.

00:04:27.000 Biggest protest Canada had had.

00:04:29.000 Now we're having another one in the Toronto area.

00:04:32.000 So Maxine Bernier is going to come.

00:04:34.000 I'm sure a lot of people from the previous one will come.

00:04:36.000 And because it's in Toronto, that's a very populated area.

00:04:38.000 I hope we get a similar turnout, but it doesn't really matter to me how many people come out.

00:04:42.000 It just matters that we're doing something.

00:04:44.000 Because my message to everyone is always just go do something out in the real world.

00:04:49.000 Because the counter protesters are sure to come.

00:04:51.000 All the media is sure to come.

00:04:53.000 And so I'll just get my message out there one person at a time like I've been doing for almost three years now.

00:04:59.000 Yeah. I mean, you've been on the front lines of this movement for a few years now.

00:05:03.000 At a time when it was just you and maybe a few other people.

00:05:08.000 Have you noticed that more people are now starting to see things your way?

00:05:15.000 Are you seeing more people rallying behind you and standing up against this very destructive ideology?

00:05:26.000 Yeah, so people have always been supportive of this cause.

00:05:33.000 It's not my cause.

00:05:34.000 This is the cause of parents and children.

00:05:36.000 This is the cause of truth.

00:05:37.000 But people have always been supportive.

00:05:40.000 It's not controversial to say that girls are girls and boys are boys and we shouldn't be trying to do childhood sex changes.

00:05:45.000 But everyone was afraid to speak up and we have the tyranny of the minority.

00:05:51.000 Supported by wildly leftist governments and teachers unions and the far left pushing this cult like ideology all throughout society.

00:06:01.000 And as we've seen in other movements throughout human history.

00:06:06.000 The majority can easily be cowed into silence.

00:06:09.000 So I felt it was important to go out into the real world to have these conversations myself, but to start conversations.

00:06:16.000 And that's what I do.

00:06:18.000 I start millions of conversations.

00:06:20.000 I get my tweets or my posts on X now get seen about 5 million times a day.

00:06:27.000 And so I'm just starting lots of conversations and I keep going one conversation at a time.

00:06:32.000 But always people have been supportive.

00:06:36.000 It's just that now people are more educated.

00:06:38.000 They didn't know about this three years ago.

00:06:40.000 Now they know about it and they keep learning a little bit more.

00:06:43.000 And the more they learn, the more this fire inside these moms and dads especially gets lit.

00:06:49.000 And there's no stopping our momentum.

00:06:52.000 I tweeted out the other day, the most important thing we can do is awareness campaigning.

00:06:56.000 Letters and emails to politicians and petitions, as far as I'm concerned, are pretty much a waste of time.

00:07:01.000 We have to keep this awareness campaign going.

00:07:04.000 We have to educate the masses because when people find out what's going on, they never unlearn it.

00:07:10.000 And we are activating all sorts of people to fight within their sphere of influence.

00:07:15.000 Yeah.

00:07:16.000 So can you tell me about some of the changes that your activism has resulted in?

00:07:23.000 You talk about momentum.

00:07:26.000 There has been a fair bit of momentum in the last few months at least.

00:07:30.000 We've seen at least overseas, we've seen in certain countries, they've put a stop to puberty blockers in places like Sweden, Norway, the UK, I believe as well.

00:07:42.000 And then most recently here in Canada, the Saskatchewan government I believe said that parents need to be informed if their kids at schools are, you know, talking about pronouns and that sort of thing, that parents need to be involved.

00:08:02.000 The New Brunswick government did something similar about a few months ago.

00:08:07.000 I feel like these are tangible results that one is seeing, even in a place like Canada where things are very slow to happen.

00:08:17.000 Can you tell us a bit about, from your perspective, given all of the work that you put into, what are some of these changes that you're seeing on both sides of the border?

00:08:28.000 Right.

00:08:29.000 So I knew that by creating massive amounts of awareness, other people with their own responsibilities and their own hats would come along to do their jobs.

00:08:36.000 And that's what we're seeing.

00:08:38.000 We've had 19 or 20 states in the US passed legislation to put a stop to child transition.

00:08:45.000 When I say child transition, I mean puberty blockers, no more cross sex hormones.

00:08:50.000 The opposite sexes hormones are being given to kids and no more surgeries on kids, which is especially prevalent down in the States.

00:08:56.000 Thousands of girls, minors as young as 12 years old have had double mastectomies.

00:09:00.000 They do vaginoplasties, these castrations and these penile inversion surgeries on boys as young as 16 in some states.

00:09:08.000 But all the red states now are on board.

00:09:12.000 I was meeting with members of Congress and some staff from the House Oversight Committee just a year ago, last August, and nobody wanted to touch this issue.

00:09:24.000 They wanted to talk about men and women's sports because that's an easier win. 0.98

00:09:28.000 People understand it right away.

00:09:30.000 And this, they just didn't understand.

00:09:32.000 They didn't have enough education about it.

00:09:33.000 So that's totally changed over the past year.

00:09:36.000 Just this past week, the official position of the Republican Party, they passed a resolution.

00:09:42.000 It's now the official position for all the states and the federal party to condemn child transition.

00:09:51.000 So it's been a huge switch.

00:09:54.000 This is now the number one issue in the culture war every night on conservative media.

00:09:59.000 It's talked about day and night, every single day.

00:10:01.000 Millions are getting educated every day.

00:10:03.000 And then in countries in Europe, we've had England, Finland, and Sweden, where the medical bodies all conducted reviews of the evidence and found there was no evidence to support that this was helping the psychological wellbeing of these children.

00:10:14.000 So if it's not helping them psychologically, what are we doing cutting up body parts and stopping their development and turning them into lifelong pharmaceutical patients?

00:10:21.000 So the only kids who will be able to take part in this in the future will do so as part of the research clinical trial.

00:10:28.000 I still don't agree with that.

00:10:29.000 But at least from thousands, this goes down to a very small number, and it will be kids where they've ruled out other mental health comorbidities as well.

00:10:36.000 Because with all these children, there is always something else going on.

00:10:39.000 These kids have autism about half the time.

00:10:41.000 They're kids with borderline personality disorder. 0.93

00:10:44.000 They've been abused or sexually abused. 0.88

00:10:46.000 Girls who have been sexually abused aren't loving being a girl right now, obviously. 0.96

00:10:49.000 And if you give them an out where they can just escape from their sex, some of them will take that option. 0.97

00:10:54.000 These are kids with eating disorders.

00:10:55.000 They're kids who are cutting.

00:10:57.000 They're coming straight from the psychiatric unit of children's hospitals.

00:11:00.000 And now they're being taught that gender is the source of all their problems because they were born in the wrong body.

00:11:05.000 This is extraordinarily abusive psychologically to tell a child that they were born wrong.

00:11:10.000 And so that brings us to this other thing you just mentioned, pronouns in schools, what we call social transition.

00:11:19.000 Social transition, more accurately, we should call this a psychological intervention, is when a child takes on a new name and new pronouns.

00:11:28.000 And they're doing this at school because they're being indoctrinated in school.

00:11:31.000 And it has been the position of every single ministry of education across Canada to hide from parents that their own child has a new name, that their own girl is being called a boy.

00:11:43.000 And so whenever I give these talks, I want people to think about this for a minute.

00:11:48.000 What message are you sending a child?

00:11:50.000 Are you sending a little girl when you call her he him?

00:11:54.000 The message you're sending is that she was born wrong.

00:11:58.000 That she needs to be something that she's not.

00:12:02.000 That she needs to be a boy to find true happiness. 0.96

00:12:06.000 What kind of abusive nonsense is that?

00:12:11.000 The message we should be sending all of these kids is that they're beautiful just as they are.

00:12:16.000 No drugs or scalpels needed.

00:12:19.000 Yet this teaches them they were born wrong and they'll only find true happiness if they block their physical development,

00:12:25.000 go on the opposite sexes hormones and get body parts cut off. 1.00

00:12:28.000 These girls and it is primarily girls who are affected by this now. 0.95

00:12:32.000 It's about three to one, but I don't want to ignore the boys because that's rising, too.

00:12:35.000 But these girls, after they've been on estrogen or sorry, after they've been on testosterone for four or five years, 0.81

00:12:40.000 they have to get hysterectomies because it causes vaginal and uterine atrophy. 0.89

00:12:45.000 They're also getting what's called a bilateral oophorectomy where they cut out their ovaries.

00:12:49.000 Now they can never produce estrogen for the rest of their life.

00:12:52.000 We're sending teenage girls into menopause and calling this a loving thing to do, 1.00

00:12:59.000 reducing their quality of life, reducing their lifespan, early onset osteoporosis, early onset dementia,

00:13:05.000 problems with their liver, early diabetes.

00:13:10.000 We don't know what the lack of their own hormones are doing to their cognitive development, 0.96

00:13:15.000 but a study that was done on sheep showed that these sheep suffered cognitively when they were given this drug.

00:13:21.000 The drug that's given these kids, normally it's called Lupron.

00:13:24.000 The technical term for these drugs, they're called gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonists.

00:13:30.000 And this drug stops the pituitary gland from releasing luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone,

00:13:36.000 which in turn trigger estrogen girls, testosterone, and boys.

00:13:40.000 This drug takes that down to zero.

00:13:42.000 So the idea is they want to keep these kids looking neutral so that they can pass better as the opposite sets. 0.77

00:13:49.000 And the real goal for these kids is always to go on the opposite sex hormones. 0.79

00:13:52.000 So when these activists talk about this, they say that puberty blockers are fully reversible.

00:13:56.000 And the sales pitch is that it just buys the child time to explore their gender identity.

00:14:02.000 It's total nonsense.

00:14:04.000 So we know from various gender clinics that 98% of the kids who start on puberty blockers go on to cross-sex hormones.

00:14:10.000 So that's really what they're signing up for.

00:14:13.000 And then they're suffering irreversible harm.

00:14:15.000 And then they end up going on to the surgeries, either as children or as 18 year olds, 19 year olds.

00:14:20.000 Sometimes they have to wait that long.

00:14:22.000 Depends what jurisdiction you're in.

00:14:24.000 But we know from historical studies into real gender dysphoria that started from a young age, that 80 to 90% of these kids just grew out of it.

00:14:31.000 The cure for gender dysphoria in almost all cases is puberty. 0.99

00:14:35.000 Now we blocked the cure.

00:14:37.000 The cure is time. 0.76

00:14:39.000 Now we say, oh, these kids are going to kill themselves in transition.

00:14:42.000 And these children are being indoctrinated to believe that as well.

00:14:45.000 And they tell the parents that you can have a live daughter or a dead son. 1.00

00:14:49.000 So the whole thing is just manipulative garbage. 0.99

00:14:51.000 It's all based on the lie. 0.98

00:14:53.000 And we need to get back to the true body positive message.

00:14:55.000 And parents understand this.

00:14:57.000 So this upsurge in parents, and there's that march called the Million Person March going on on September 20th, two days before the protest I'm holding.

00:15:05.000 I hope tons of people come out all across Canada.

00:15:07.000 I hope they pull their kids from school to send a message.

00:15:10.000 Because most teachers aren't on board with this either.

00:15:13.000 But they've been silenced because the unions all push this.

00:15:16.000 So we just got to get brave.

00:15:18.000 And thank you for letting me rant for a few minutes.

00:15:21.000 No, we'll rant away.

00:15:23.000 Just to ask you this question, Chris.

00:15:27.000 I mean, I noticed an interesting conversation on Twitter a few days ago.

00:15:32.000 When we talk about indoctrination, you know, that word can be applied to all kinds of different things, right?

00:15:39.000 So there was this interesting back and forth between two people.

00:15:43.000 And this one person said, well, look, what if a girl shows up at school and she's uncomfortable wearing the hijab, but her parents have forced this on her.

00:15:55.000 And she tells the teachers that she doesn't want to wear the hijab anymore.

00:15:59.000 What does the teacher do in that situation, given that teachers must inform the parents of what their kids are doing at school when it comes to social transitioning?

00:16:09.000 Where do you see an issue like this fitting into the whole indoctrination sphere and teachers having to inform parents of what their kids are up to at schools?

00:16:23.000 Well, with virtually every other aspect of society, teachers do tell parents what's going on.

00:16:27.000 But for some reason, when it comes to gender, when it comes to transition, when it comes to the psychological and physical abuse, they're going to hide that from their parents.

00:16:39.000 And they do this on the basis that parents are automatically a threat to their own children.

00:16:45.000 That's that's their default setting is that when it comes to gender, parents are automatically a threat and we need to hide things from them. 0.99

00:16:51.000 Who hides things from parents?

00:16:54.000 There's a word for those people starts with a G rumors. 0.95

00:16:59.000 That's what's going on in these schools when it comes to gender, when it comes to the hijab. 1.00

00:17:04.000 Of course, they would tell the parents that there was this going on and they should tell the parents because whose child is it?

00:17:12.000 The child doesn't belong to the school.

00:17:13.000 The child doesn't belong to the government.

00:17:15.000 We don't co-parent with the government.

00:17:17.000 The child belongs to the parents, and this is a religious issue. 0.74

00:17:20.000 So, of course, they would talk to the parents.

00:17:22.000 But as you've mentioned earlier, Saskatchewan, the education minister, premier said that they need to stop hiding this from parents, but they're not going to enforce it.

00:17:32.000 They're not going to enforce this with teachers.

00:17:35.000 It's still a positive step because at least they're talking about it.

00:17:38.000 And this is how it always goes.

00:17:40.000 It's always little cracks forming in the down.

00:17:43.000 And those cracks are forming and more and more are going to form.

00:17:46.000 And then one day there's just going to be a big rush of common sense.

00:17:49.000 But New Brunswick did the same thing.

00:17:51.000 Yet when the New Brunswick conservative premier said that they need to stop hiding a child's social transition from parents, a bunch of his own cabinet members revolted.

00:18:01.000 Yeah.

00:18:02.000 These are supposed to be conservatives.

00:18:03.000 Canada is such a joke when it comes to conservatism.

00:18:06.000 We don't have a conservative party.

00:18:08.000 And I'm sure I've ticked off all sorts of members of parliament in the conservative party, but they deserve it.

00:18:14.000 Their job is to hold the accountable.

00:18:18.000 Their job is to be opposition to Justin Trudeau and all of his insanity.

00:18:23.000 If they don't provide any opposition and they haven't been, who holds the conservative party accountable?

00:18:29.000 Somebody has to.

00:18:31.000 So I do it.

00:18:32.000 And I get all these voters saying, well, he's better than Trudeau.

00:18:35.000 Well, yes.

00:18:36.000 My pet cat would be better than Trudeau at running the country, but we still need to hold these people accountable.

00:18:43.000 And now all these parents are learning what's going on.

00:18:45.000 The Muslim community in particular is rising up.

00:18:47.000 They're not as afraid as the Christian community.

00:18:50.000 The left doesn't know what to do with them. 0.80

00:18:52.000 We saw Trudeau trying to gaslight this Muslim man saying that he was basically falling for propaganda from right wing Americans as though he doesn't have a brain in his head and can't think for himself. 0.97

00:19:07.000 Totally insulting to the Muslim community. 1.00

00:19:10.000 But they're not okay with this at all, obviously.

00:19:13.000 And so they're speaking up and they're going to keep speaking up more and more and we're going to win this battle.

00:19:18.000 Well, so on that, I was going to, I've written about this quite extensively.

00:19:23.000 One of the things that concerns me is bringing religion into the whole opposition to gender ideology. 0.82

00:19:30.000 I have some reservations about it because I feel like, you know, one can fight this, keeping religion out completely. 1.00

00:19:39.000 One of my concerns is that some of these hard won battles when it's come to things like gay rights, we risk, you know, seeing a regression on those rights.

00:19:53.000 And I would, you know, I personally, I'm concerned about that.

00:19:57.000 You, you know, you're someone who's approached this, you know, just from, just from a strictly scientific, you know, common sense approach to your activism is rooted in that.

00:20:11.000 What do you make of religious groups coming into the, you know, who are now part of the protest?

00:20:18.000 Of course, you can't control, there are all kinds of groups that are going to attach themselves to a mass movement.

00:20:23.000 But, but increasingly we're seeing religious communities come to the fore opposing gender ideology, but sometimes even opposing homosexuality.

00:20:33.000 And, and what do you, does that concern you?

00:20:37.000 It's just not, it's not effective.

00:20:40.000 You're losing a bunch of people.

00:20:42.000 And the truth is that when you look at all the studies into gender dysphoria, before we started giving kids puberty blockers.

00:20:48.000 Yeah.

00:20:49.000 That, as I mentioned before, 80 to 90% of these kids grew out of it.

00:20:53.000 The most recent study that was done before puberty blockers followed 139 boys from the age of four or five, all the way into their twenties.

00:21:00.000 87.8% grew out of it, but 63.6% grew up to be gay.

00:21:05.000 Hmm.

00:21:06.000 And all of the academic studies show this.

00:21:08.000 These are kids who would grow up to be gay, who don't conform to stereotypes associated with their sex.

00:21:15.000 Now these same kids today are being told, Oh, that's, you're really trans. 0.77

00:21:20.000 So these boys who would grow up to be gay men are told, Oh no, you're really a girl on the inside.

00:21:25.000 And so it's harming that community a lot.

00:21:28.000 And that's just the truth.

00:21:30.000 That's the fact.

00:21:31.000 The Tavistock has much more recent data on this. 0.95

00:21:34.000 Tons of these kids grew up to be gay. 0.92

00:21:37.000 Now, I think a lot of these teenagers in this day and age, it's all about having a special identity.

00:21:44.000 So 20% of Gen Z is saying they're LGBTQ of some sort.

00:21:47.000 Some are saying they're trans, they're gay.

00:21:49.000 Some are saying they're just non-binary or they're queer, which means nothing.

00:21:53.000 It just means I want attention.

00:21:55.000 But obviously 20% of the population is not gay.

00:21:59.000 It didn't happen.

00:22:00.000 This is just because they're getting attention and they're, they have this special label now.

00:22:05.000 And it's not cool to be what they call cis or heterosexual anymore.

00:22:10.000 It's cool to have some sort of identity, but I don't think it helps our cause at all when people are against homosexuality.

00:22:16.000 However, people have freedom of religion.

00:22:20.000 And if that's the way their religion sees things, well, they're free to have those beliefs.

00:22:26.000 I don't think we are going to roll back any of those protections that have been done.

00:22:29.000 But I do think these TQ organizations, which call themselves LGBTQ organizations, they're really just TQ organizations.

00:22:37.000 They've shot themselves in the foot and they are hurting gay people as well. 0.55

00:22:43.000 Because when gay rights were won, they don't just close the doors and say, yay, we achieved our objectives, everybody.

00:22:49.000 They need to keep donations flowing.

00:22:50.000 They need to keep everyone employed.

00:22:51.000 So the new objective became trans rights.

00:22:54.000 And they've tried to equate these as being the same thing.

00:22:56.000 And they're not related at all.

00:22:59.000 This is hurting the gay community, this whole trans business. 1.00

00:23:02.000 And there's no such thing as a transgender child. 1.00

00:23:05.000 Nobody can define it.

00:23:07.000 Nobody can tell you what it means for a girl to be a boy.

00:23:10.000 Because it doesn't exist.

00:23:12.000 It means nothing.

00:23:13.000 This is a label that some adults have taken on.

00:23:16.000 When they've modified their body in order to try to deal with a mental distress.

00:23:22.000 But that's all this is.

00:23:24.000 This is a body modification cult that has now affected hundreds of thousands of kids across North America who have come to believe that there's something wrong with them just because they're a little bit different or they're struggling in life.

00:23:36.000 It's nonsense.

00:23:37.000 It's abusive.

00:23:38.000 And we need to get back to reality because it's just boys and girls.

00:23:40.000 Yeah.

00:23:41.000 And so that's what everyone's focus should be.

00:23:43.000 Of course, they're free to express their religious views however they want.

00:23:47.000 But you're not going to win many battles if you're anti-gay.

00:23:50.000 Yeah.

00:23:51.000 You've been very critical of conservative politicians in Canada, as have I.

00:23:57.000 I've written about this as well.

00:23:59.000 We're not doing enough about gender ideology.

00:24:02.000 But there has been there.

00:24:03.000 We have heard some recent statements, I think, from the Minister of Education here in Ontario.

00:24:10.000 Stephen Lecce emphasized the importance of parental rights.

00:24:14.000 Saskatchewan, which I referenced earlier in the New Brunswick government.

00:24:18.000 You think that that is enough.

00:24:20.000 What exactly do you want them to say or do when it comes to this issue?

00:24:26.000 Ultimately, what needs to happen is there should be no gender identity teachings in schools, period.

00:24:33.000 K-12.

00:24:34.000 Florida has already done this.

00:24:36.000 They passed legislation for K-3 and then the Board of Education followed up banning it from K-12.

00:24:41.000 And they shouldn't be teaching sexual orientation either.

00:24:44.000 They should just be basic sex education. 1.00

00:24:47.000 You know, the facts about puberty at whatever age is appropriate.

00:24:51.000 But they shouldn't be teaching sexual orientation or gender identity at all.

00:24:55.000 And if a child is taking on a new name and pronouns at school, parents have to know about that.

00:25:02.000 And we shouldn't be compelled to go along with these pronouns either.

00:25:08.000 Because if I was a teacher, there ain't no way you're going to get me to lie to this little girl or boy.

00:25:16.000 I'm not going to call a girl a boy.

00:25:18.000 I'm not going to be that abusive person who goes along with this.

00:25:21.000 Because every time you affirm that, you are affirming a lie and you are reaffirming this message that there's something wrong with them.

00:25:27.000 And these kids throughout the course of the school year are now getting called by these wrong pronouns thousands of times.

00:25:32.000 It's just making this belief even stronger.

00:25:37.000 And now they think, well, I was born wrong.

00:25:40.000 So now I've got to change my body.

00:25:42.000 And it's all a lie.

00:25:43.000 And so teachers shouldn't be compelled to go along with this either.

00:25:46.000 And they should just never be teaching it.

00:25:48.000 And then this would start to go away.

00:25:50.000 But we got to get the truth out there.

00:25:52.000 And we are.

00:25:53.000 So that's good news.

00:25:54.000 That's the big white pill is we're winning spectacularly on many fronts.

00:25:59.000 And we're just going to keep winning and we're going to keep educating people.

00:26:02.000 Yeah.

00:26:03.000 So clearly you've been gaining a lot of support over the years.

00:26:09.000 You started off just basically as a one person, you know, operation.

00:26:16.000 But now you have thousands of people rallying behind you everywhere you go.

00:26:21.000 What about, I've seen at one of the protests that I was with, I saw how you were attacked.

00:26:26.000 Do you think that the violence has increased as well?

00:26:32.000 In addition to the fact that you're getting a lot of support, you also find that the violence has also increased.

00:26:38.000 It's always been there.

00:26:40.000 It's always been there.

00:26:41.000 The worst attack I had was over two years ago.

00:26:44.000 It was March of 2021 when I got my arm broken in Montreal.

00:26:47.000 Now, though, if I announce I'm going somewhere, if there's any Antifa contingent in that city, they're going to be there.

00:26:55.000 So I went to this thing in Vancouver a couple of weeks ago.

00:26:58.000 Before I got there, I heard Antifa was riding around on their bikes.

00:27:01.000 They're all masked and wearing hoods.

00:27:04.000 One guy on a motorbike looking for me.

00:27:06.000 And I got out of my car and I ran into these two young girls right away. 0.92

00:27:10.000 I think they were 19 years old, both transitioning.

00:27:13.000 And I had this nice conversation with them.

00:27:15.000 But then I went over to this rally.

00:27:18.000 I was harassed for an hour straight by Antifa and some other people.

00:27:21.000 They wouldn't let me walk freely.

00:27:22.000 The police did nothing.

00:27:23.000 Finished that day.

00:27:25.000 It was a good day.

00:27:26.000 I live streamed the whole thing.

00:27:27.000 Drove my car home.

00:27:29.000 Didn't realize anything.

00:27:31.000 But the next morning, I go out to my driveway and I've got four flat tires.

00:27:34.000 They had messed with the valves and two of the side walls for two of my tires had been damaged.

00:27:43.000 So then I had to replace all four tires because none of them would hold air.

00:27:46.000 But they did that while I was at the thing.

00:27:48.000 So this is all they do.

00:27:50.000 And it always backfires because then I announced that on social media and I get tons more support than I would have had.

00:27:55.000 Every time they try to silence me, I get 5 million views instead of a million views on these videos.

00:28:00.000 Because these videos now are crazy.

00:28:01.000 I just have a basic conversation and it gets 500 or a million or 2 million views.

00:28:06.000 So whatever.

00:28:07.000 They can keep doing this.

00:28:08.000 I don't care.

00:28:09.000 They're just tests.

00:28:11.000 They don't really bother me.

00:28:12.000 All they're doing is helping me.

00:28:14.000 So it is what it is.

00:28:16.000 But we have to stop being afraid of these people because they're nothing.

00:28:19.000 Yeah, no, that's very commendable.

00:28:21.000 And I have seen you just take it in your stride.

00:28:24.000 But are there moments when you worry about your own safety, your own personal safety and the safety of your family?

00:28:31.000 Because you're literally in the trenches.

00:28:33.000 You're there fighting.

00:28:35.000 And, you know, I do wonder if this is something that you worry about at the back of your mind.

00:28:41.000 You know, you're thinking about the safety of your family or your own safety for that matter.

00:28:46.000 Nothing's happened at my house. 0.98

00:28:49.000 And that would be really dumb of people to do that. 0.83

00:28:52.000 Let me just say that and I will catch them. 0.84

00:28:55.000 But I was thinking about this the other day.

00:28:58.000 I think the only time I've ever had a little bit of worry was in the midst of this attack in Montreal because I didn't know what the heck was happening.

00:29:06.000 I was being suddenly hit from all sides.

00:29:08.000 I had no idea this was coming until I was being punched in the face.

00:29:11.000 And I was being hit and pushed from all sides.

00:29:13.000 I didn't know how many people there were.

00:29:14.000 I took a really big shot to the back of my head, which kind of left a dent at the base of my skull.

00:29:19.000 But there was a split second in there.

00:29:23.000 And time almost slows down in those moments.

00:29:25.000 But even then, I wasn't going to run from these guys.

00:29:29.000 I pulled up my phone.

00:29:30.000 They stomped on my body cam in the middle of the street. 1.00

00:29:32.000 So I pulled up my phone to film them for police.

00:29:35.000 And that's when this guy picked up this traffic cone and swung it in my head four times, which I blocked each time doing my best karate kid impression, wax off or wax on, whatever it is.

00:29:44.000 But that traffic cone broke my arm, which I didn't even know at the time.

00:29:48.000 I knew it hurt a little bit, but you have so much adrenaline running in those situations.

00:29:52.000 And then, of course, police did nothing.

00:29:54.000 But no, I don't know.

00:29:55.000 I guess I'm just worried a certain way.

00:29:58.000 These guys don't really bother me that much.

00:30:00.000 I think they're all doing me a favor, to be honest with you.

00:30:06.000 So yeah, I guess in the States, I'm a little I went to Portland State.

00:30:12.000 I was a little more careful there.

00:30:13.000 That's the one time I was careful when the morning I didn't announce when I was going because we went to Portland State University with Peter Bogosian, the professor who got run out of there.

00:30:21.000 And this big YouTuber from California named James Clute.

00:30:24.000 And so we paid for some security that day because Portland is one city you need to worry about a little.

00:30:29.000 Okay.

00:30:30.000 But even then, there's only so much security can do.

00:30:33.000 Oh, Portland's the worst city in North America for violence.

00:30:39.000 And police don't do anything.

00:30:40.000 They have orders to stand down.

00:30:42.000 They're not going to respond if you're getting attacked.

00:30:45.000 And yeah, Antifa will hurt you there.

00:30:50.000 But you go there in the morning, they're not even awake yet.

00:30:52.000 So.

00:30:53.000 Okay.

00:30:54.000 Okay.

00:30:55.000 Canada recently issued a travel advisory to the US warning that some states have enacted laws that might affect your visit.

00:31:10.000 You know, we give these kinds of advisories to travel to authoritarian regimes, for example.

00:31:17.000 But we haven't actually seen any such advisory for places like Iran or Afghanistan or, you know, a whole host of other countries that criminalize homosexuality.

00:31:29.000 What do you make of this?

00:31:31.000 This sounds like a cheap political stunt by the Trudeau liberals.

00:31:34.000 What's your take on that?

00:31:36.000 That's all it is.

00:31:37.000 This is just classic Trudeau virtue signaling.

00:31:40.000 That's all he does.

00:31:41.000 Every single press conference this man ever has, he's talking about how victimized some group is and how terrible some other people are.

00:31:53.000 All he does is drive division in this country.

00:31:57.000 He's got to go.

00:32:00.000 The Conservatives need to step up.

00:32:02.000 And the problem with the Conservative Party, I'll tell you some inside info, is if Pierre Poiliev speaks out against this, he'll have a revolt from his own party members.

00:32:14.000 Because a bunch of them are on board with pushing this trans stuff on kids. 0.97

00:32:18.000 His deputy, Melissa Lantzman, when Bill C-4 passed.

00:32:22.000 Now, Bill C-4 is this bill which makes it a criminal offense to help a girl feel comfortable as a girl or to help a boy feel comfortable as a boy.

00:32:32.000 It's totally fine to indoctrinate your little girl into believing she's a boy and she needs to cut her breasts off and go on testosterone and become a lifelong pharmaceutical patient. 0.84

00:32:41.000 That's apparently loving and kind, but if you reject that and don't want to transition your child and want to help them feel comfortable with their own skin, that's now called conversion therapy.

00:32:52.000 You can go to jail for five years.

00:32:54.000 This bill was originally presented as Bill C-6.

00:32:57.000 Kualiev voted for it on all three rounds of voting.

00:33:02.000 Even on the third round of voting, when 62 Conservatives, I think it was, voted against it, Kualiev voted for it.

00:33:08.000 Trudeau called an election, so the bill didn't go through in time.

00:33:11.000 The bill came back as Bill C-4.

00:33:13.000 They just waved it through unanimously.

00:33:16.000 And none of them will speak out against this.

00:33:19.000 Bill Lantzman said on camera that this was one of the greatest days for her ever politically when they passed the bill.

00:33:25.000 They were crying and dancing and hugging in the aisles.

00:33:29.000 So you've got all these Conservatives like Erin O'Toole. 1.00

00:33:32.000 And what's the one out of Calgary? I forget her name.

00:33:36.000 But they're all celebrating this transitioning of children.

00:33:40.000 So if Paulieff speaks up about it, he's got a problem within his own ranks.

00:33:44.000 But guess what?

00:33:45.000 We're not going to give him a choice because he can't ignore 90% of parents and he can't ignore all the liberal voters who also want to know when their child has a new name and pronouns at school.

00:33:59.000 84% of Canadians say that parents should know about this.

00:34:04.000 Of the other 16%, most of them don't even know what they're talking about when they get these polls, when they get a phone call or a text or they do this online poll, however they're doing it.

00:34:14.000 If you talk to those other 16%, you'll be able to switch a bunch of them around to common sense right away. 0.99

00:34:21.000 And then you'll be left with six or 7% of the population.

00:34:25.000 Mostly young women, young leftist women who are pushing this. 1.00

00:34:29.000 They're the foot soldiers.

00:34:30.000 They're never going to go along with this because they've been too indoctrinating.

00:34:33.000 And this preys on their natural compassion.

00:34:35.000 They believe that kids are going to kill themselves and they think that parents are a threat to their own children.

00:34:39.000 It's total nonsense.

00:34:40.000 But 90% of the country is in favour of common sense.

00:34:43.000 Well, the Conservatives can't avoid this forever.

00:34:45.000 So the more they voted, the more they're putting themselves between a rock and a hard place.

00:34:49.000 Paul Leif says this is up to the provinces to decide.

00:34:52.000 That's not enough.

00:34:53.000 He needs to speak out about cultural issues, not just inflation.

00:34:56.000 Yeah.

00:34:57.000 Why do you think the medical community in the UK, Sweden, Norway, and all of these other countries, which have reversed some of these things on gender, on puberty blockers and so on.

00:35:12.000 Why has the medical community in Canada, why have they been slow to act?

00:35:17.000 What gave a rise to these decisions in these other countries?

00:35:22.000 What exactly was the impetus?

00:35:26.000 It only takes a few people at the top of medical bodies to do the right thing.

00:35:31.000 There was a lot of awareness campaigning in the UK.

00:35:33.000 They were a bit ahead of us for sure.

00:35:35.000 And it's easier to reach that whole population, honestly, because there's 75 million people or whatever it is on a little island.

00:35:41.000 You can reach everybody easier, but we're captured ideologically.

00:35:47.000 Our medical bodies are being run by ideologues.

00:35:51.000 We saw this during COVID.

00:35:52.000 They're not truthful.

00:35:54.000 So a bunch of these heads of provincial medical bodies have got to go, but they're installed by the NDP government or whatever government is in charge.

00:36:05.000 So good luck fixing this in BC right now with the NDP.

00:36:08.000 It's not going to happen.

00:36:09.000 We need to vote them out.

00:36:10.000 We need to get new medical officers and then they need to do the right thing.

00:36:13.000 But yeah, England, Sweden, Finland have all conducted a systematic review, which is the gold standard for medicine, looking at all the evidence unbiased and found there is no evidence to support this.

00:36:24.000 Norway and Denmark are working off of their systematic reviews to also put a stop to this.

00:36:28.000 Now, just a couple of weeks ago, the AAP, the American Academy of Pediatrics announced that they are now conducting a systematic review.

00:36:36.000 This is huge.

00:36:37.000 They can't possibly hide everything.

00:36:40.000 I still don't believe they're going to do it completely honestly because they're a corrupt organization, but it's a huge step.

00:36:46.000 And they've been ignoring calls from doctors within their own body, the AAP, and now they're not because of all of the outrage we've created.

00:36:56.000 This is because of parents speaking up.

00:36:59.000 This is because of people learning what's going on and they can't ignore it anymore.

00:37:03.000 So with Canada, we often follow the US.

00:37:06.000 So when the AAP fixes this and the AMA, American Medical Association and the Endocrine Society, where the president just received letters from top medical officials from, I think, 15 different countries, something like that in Europe.

00:37:21.000 They all wrote to the president of the Endocrine Society telling him that he was lying because he's saying things that go contrary to their own findings previously, but he's a liar.

00:37:32.000 And so they were calling him out on it.

00:37:34.000 And so these medical scandals, like the lobotomy 2.0 is what we're going through right now.

00:37:42.000 It can only last for so long.

00:37:44.000 What's going on is a lobotomy for the endocrine system, but we're doing this to kids and we're doing this to far more kids than we're ever affected by lobotomies.

00:37:52.000 So this is a far worse scandal.

00:37:54.000 But hey, we just keep getting the truth out there and the truth spreads for free.

00:37:58.000 Propaganda requires millions of dollars to spread, but the truth spreads for free and we're going to keep spreading it.

00:38:04.000 Well, let's hope the medical community here in Canada wakes up sooner rather than later.

00:38:11.000 Final question for you, Chris, what's on the agenda for you for the coming months?

00:38:16.000 What should we be looking out for in terms of what you're going to be up to?

00:38:21.000 I know we talked about your protest coming up in Toronto, but tell us what else you're going to be up to.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, I'm super excited. So I'll be in Washington State just for a couple of days pretty soon.

00:38:35.000 Next big thing is the protest September 22 in Toronto.

00:38:38.000 Then I fly out the next morning to Baltimore.

00:38:41.000 I've got some events on the weekend there.

00:38:43.000 And then I have another protest in Monroe in Montgomery County, Maryland, on the 26th of September.

00:38:51.000 That night, I have a town hall with several community leaders and Moms for Liberty, and it's going to be televised.

00:38:56.000 It's going to be big.

00:38:58.000 So that's another big event.

00:38:59.000 And what I'm extremely excited about going forward for the entire year, for who knows how long, is I'm now working with the Leadership Institute, which a lot of people haven't heard of.

00:39:08.000 But it's a really large and old and successful conservative organization in the States.

00:39:14.000 And for the longest time, they've been training people.

00:39:16.000 They train them how to run for politics and to win.

00:39:19.000 There's a new division run out of Sarasota, Florida, by my friend, Bridget Ziegler.

00:39:26.000 And they are training people how to run for school board all across the country and how to win.

00:39:32.000 So that they can flip these school boards from liberal to conservative, because that's the only way we're going to fix a lot of this stuff.

00:39:39.000 A lot of people rely on the prime minister or the president to be some savior.

00:39:43.000 That's not how it works.

00:39:44.000 Change happens at the grassroots level.

00:39:46.000 And what we need to do in Canada is get people running for school board, but they don't really know how to do it successfully.

00:39:51.000 So we're going to need to start an organization up here to do that same sort of thing.

00:39:54.000 But I'm going to be touring the U.S., the Leadership Institute, speaking at universities.

00:39:58.000 And instead of me just hanging out uninvited on a university campus, the Leadership Institute has campus reform groups at all of these universities all across the country.

00:40:08.000 So they'll be inviting me in for formal events where I speak.

00:40:13.000 And this will start these mini riots on campus, which generates this whole media circuit, the whole media cycle, and generates millions of views.

00:40:21.000 So it's going to be a huge year.

00:40:24.000 And I'm going to be in London at the end of October, and I'm invited to Jordan Peterson's conference that he's having there October 30th to November 1st.

00:40:32.000 I'm going to go over to Ireland for a few days because they have this hate speech bill that needs some more exposure.

00:40:38.000 And last time I was in Ireland, it was pretty easy to generate national news, just hanging out on the busiest road in Dublin there.

00:40:44.000 Some police got involved and embarrassed themselves, and I got, I think, 6 million views plus national news.

00:40:50.000 So I'm going to go back there and help them out with the hate speech bill.

00:40:53.000 But really, I'm just most of the time going to be traveling around Canada in the US and doing what I do, having one conversation at a time, often just out on the streets.

00:41:02.000 I'm never going to stop doing that.

00:41:04.000 Well, good for you, Chris, and I wish you all the best.

00:41:07.000 And I really enjoyed this conversation with you and so glad that you could make it.

00:41:13.000 And I, yeah, I hope to see you again soon and, and yeah, good luck with everything.

00:41:19.000 Thank you, Rupa.

00:41:20.000 I hope I see you on the 22nd, Toronto.

00:41:22.000 I hope, no, actually, I, unfortunately I won't be in Toronto, but it's, it's seven hours away or six hours away by car.

00:41:32.000 And I, I don't know.

00:41:34.000 I'll try my best, but.

00:41:35.000 Try your best.

00:41:36.000 I'll send an Uber.

00:41:37.000 Thanks for having me, Rupa.

00:41:38.000 Yeah.

00:41:39.000 No worries.

00:41:40.000 Thanks, Chris.

00:41:41.000 Thank you.

00:41:42.000 Thanks so much.

00:41:43.000 Yeah.

00:41:44.000 Bye.

Juno News - September 02, 2023

The growing pushback against gender ideology (Ft. Chris Elston)

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