00:00:34.000Planned Parenthood was recently suspended from schools in Saskatchewan after providing explicit content to the students of grade 9.
00:00:43.000The Sex from A to Z cards were developed by the AIDS Committee of Toronto.
00:00:48.000They are, in quotes, intended for gay, bi, and queer young people, end quote, and are described as, quote,
00:00:57.000a fun and accessible resource that facilitates humorous and frank discussion among young people about sexuality, HIV, and STD prevention, end quote.
00:01:21.000Last September, a gender expression guide was quietly released by the Renfrew County District School Board here in Ontario.
00:01:29.000It instructs teachers to not disclose the gender identity kids identify with to parents and guardians regardless of age if requested to do so by the child.
00:01:40.000Now, for the longest time, conservative politicians have avoided the issue of gender ideology out of fear of being accused of being transphobic.
00:01:50.000But parents and concerned Canadians all over the country are finally pushing back, forcing many politicians to stand up for parental rights and against gender ideology in Canada schools.
00:02:05.000The Saskatchewan government recently mandated parental consent for name and pronoun changes at school.
00:02:11.000The Manitoba Premier says schools should inform parents if kids want to change genders.
00:02:16.000Some recent polls show that a majority of Canadians polled believe schools should tell parents if a child switches genders.
00:02:26.000Now, one of the most influential activists in this space in the fight against gender ideology is Chris Elston.
00:02:34.000He is better known as Billboard Chris.
00:02:37.000Chris has been on the front lines in the fight against gender ideology, protesting events that promote radical gender theories on children,
00:02:45.000and it's my great pleasure to have him on the show today to talk about some of the latest developments in the gender ideology space both here in Canada and in the US.
00:02:55.000Chris, welcome to the Rupa Subramani show.
00:02:58.000It's a real pleasure and honor to have you with me for the first time on the show.
00:03:02.000I want to start by asking you about the protest that you've organized outside a couple of schools in Toronto.
00:03:12.000I believe it's coming up on September 22nd.
00:03:16.000It's similar to the protests that you organized here in Ottawa back in June.
00:03:21.000Could you tell us a bit about this upcoming protest in September and what you're hoping to achieve?
00:03:27.000Sure. So I've had a few of these protests outside schools back when it was just me.
00:03:34.000I've done this in Vancouver. I've done this in Edmonton. It was just me.
00:03:37.000I did this in Toronto before. A few people came out with me, and it caused massive news, even though there was a couple of us,
00:03:44.000because all of the media came out and the entire community went crazy in the beaches area of Toronto.
00:03:48.000Then I had one in Ottawa in October 2021.
00:03:51.000That was also crazy. A couple hundred counter-protesters. Just two people came out with me.
00:03:56.000So fast forward about a year and a half from those initial school protests that I had.
00:04:01.000The last one in Ottawa had probably close to 500 people supporting me and Josh Alexander,
00:04:07.000this amazing student activist who got kicked out of Catholic school because he refuses to yield to the cult of gender.
00:04:17.000And he stood up for some girls that didn't want boys in the bathroom.
00:04:20.000And he's just not going to lie and say there are two more sexes.
00:07:26.000There has been a fair bit of momentum in the last few months at least.
00:07:30.000We've seen at least overseas, we've seen in certain countries, they've put a stop to puberty blockers in places like Sweden, Norway, the UK, I believe as well.
00:07:42.000And then most recently here in Canada, the Saskatchewan government I believe said that parents need to be informed if their kids at schools are, you know, talking about pronouns and that sort of thing, that parents need to be involved.
00:08:02.000The New Brunswick government did something similar about a few months ago.
00:08:07.000I feel like these are tangible results that one is seeing, even in a place like Canada where things are very slow to happen.
00:08:17.000Can you tell us a bit about, from your perspective, given all of the work that you put into, what are some of these changes that you're seeing on both sides of the border?
00:08:29.000So I knew that by creating massive amounts of awareness, other people with their own responsibilities and their own hats would come along to do their jobs.
00:08:38.000We've had 19 or 20 states in the US passed legislation to put a stop to child transition.
00:08:45.000When I say child transition, I mean puberty blockers, no more cross sex hormones.
00:08:50.000The opposite sexes hormones are being given to kids and no more surgeries on kids, which is especially prevalent down in the States.
00:08:56.000Thousands of girls, minors as young as 12 years old have had double mastectomies.
00:09:00.000They do vaginoplasties, these castrations and these penile inversion surgeries on boys as young as 16 in some states.
00:09:08.000But all the red states now are on board.
00:09:12.000I was meeting with members of Congress and some staff from the House Oversight Committee just a year ago, last August, and nobody wanted to touch this issue.
00:09:24.000They wanted to talk about men and women's sports because that's an easier win.
00:09:54.000This is now the number one issue in the culture war every night on conservative media.
00:09:59.000It's talked about day and night, every single day.
00:10:01.000Millions are getting educated every day.
00:10:03.000And then in countries in Europe, we've had England, Finland, and Sweden, where the medical bodies all conducted reviews of the evidence and found there was no evidence to support that this was helping the psychological wellbeing of these children.
00:10:14.000So if it's not helping them psychologically, what are we doing cutting up body parts and stopping their development and turning them into lifelong pharmaceutical patients?
00:10:21.000So the only kids who will be able to take part in this in the future will do so as part of the research clinical trial.
00:10:29.000But at least from thousands, this goes down to a very small number, and it will be kids where they've ruled out other mental health comorbidities as well.
00:10:36.000Because with all these children, there is always something else going on.
00:10:39.000These kids have autism about half the time.
00:10:41.000They're kids with borderline personality disorder.
00:10:44.000They've been abused or sexually abused.
00:10:46.000Girls who have been sexually abused aren't loving being a girl right now, obviously.
00:10:49.000And if you give them an out where they can just escape from their sex, some of them will take that option.
00:10:57.000They're coming straight from the psychiatric unit of children's hospitals.
00:11:00.000And now they're being taught that gender is the source of all their problems because they were born in the wrong body.
00:11:05.000This is extraordinarily abusive psychologically to tell a child that they were born wrong.
00:11:10.000And so that brings us to this other thing you just mentioned, pronouns in schools, what we call social transition.
00:11:19.000Social transition, more accurately, we should call this a psychological intervention, is when a child takes on a new name and new pronouns.
00:11:28.000And they're doing this at school because they're being indoctrinated in school.
00:11:31.000And it has been the position of every single ministry of education across Canada to hide from parents that their own child has a new name, that their own girl is being called a boy.
00:11:43.000And so whenever I give these talks, I want people to think about this for a minute.
00:14:24.000But we know from historical studies into real gender dysphoria that started from a young age, that 80 to 90% of these kids just grew out of it.
00:14:31.000The cure for gender dysphoria in almost all cases is puberty.
00:14:57.000So this upsurge in parents, and there's that march called the Million Person March going on on September 20th, two days before the protest I'm holding.
00:15:05.000I hope tons of people come out all across Canada.
00:15:07.000I hope they pull their kids from school to send a message.
00:15:10.000Because most teachers aren't on board with this either.
00:15:13.000But they've been silenced because the unions all push this.
00:15:27.000I mean, I noticed an interesting conversation on Twitter a few days ago.
00:15:32.000When we talk about indoctrination, you know, that word can be applied to all kinds of different things, right?
00:15:39.000So there was this interesting back and forth between two people.
00:15:43.000And this one person said, well, look, what if a girl shows up at school and she's uncomfortable wearing the hijab, but her parents have forced this on her.
00:15:55.000And she tells the teachers that she doesn't want to wear the hijab anymore.
00:15:59.000What does the teacher do in that situation, given that teachers must inform the parents of what their kids are doing at school when it comes to social transitioning?
00:16:09.000Where do you see an issue like this fitting into the whole indoctrination sphere and teachers having to inform parents of what their kids are up to at schools?
00:16:23.000Well, with virtually every other aspect of society, teachers do tell parents what's going on.
00:16:27.000But for some reason, when it comes to gender, when it comes to transition, when it comes to the psychological and physical abuse, they're going to hide that from their parents.
00:16:39.000And they do this on the basis that parents are automatically a threat to their own children.
00:16:45.000That's that's their default setting is that when it comes to gender, parents are automatically a threat and we need to hide things from them.
00:16:54.000There's a word for those people starts with a G rumors.
00:16:59.000That's what's going on in these schools when it comes to gender, when it comes to the hijab.
00:17:04.000Of course, they would tell the parents that there was this going on and they should tell the parents because whose child is it?
00:17:12.000The child doesn't belong to the school.
00:17:13.000The child doesn't belong to the government.
00:17:15.000We don't co-parent with the government.
00:17:17.000The child belongs to the parents, and this is a religious issue.
00:17:20.000So, of course, they would talk to the parents.
00:17:22.000But as you've mentioned earlier, Saskatchewan, the education minister, premier said that they need to stop hiding this from parents, but they're not going to enforce it.
00:17:32.000They're not going to enforce this with teachers.
00:17:35.000It's still a positive step because at least they're talking about it.
00:17:51.000Yet when the New Brunswick conservative premier said that they need to stop hiding a child's social transition from parents, a bunch of his own cabinet members revolted.
00:18:36.000My pet cat would be better than Trudeau at running the country, but we still need to hold these people accountable.
00:18:43.000And now all these parents are learning what's going on.
00:18:45.000The Muslim community in particular is rising up.
00:18:47.000They're not as afraid as the Christian community.
00:18:50.000The left doesn't know what to do with them.
00:18:52.000We saw Trudeau trying to gaslight this Muslim man saying that he was basically falling for propaganda from right wing Americans as though he doesn't have a brain in his head and can't think for himself.
00:19:07.000Totally insulting to the Muslim community.
00:19:10.000But they're not okay with this at all, obviously.
00:19:13.000And so they're speaking up and they're going to keep speaking up more and more and we're going to win this battle.
00:19:18.000Well, so on that, I was going to, I've written about this quite extensively.
00:19:23.000One of the things that concerns me is bringing religion into the whole opposition to gender ideology.
00:19:30.000I have some reservations about it because I feel like, you know, one can fight this, keeping religion out completely.
00:19:39.000One of my concerns is that some of these hard won battles when it's come to things like gay rights, we risk, you know, seeing a regression on those rights.
00:19:53.000And I would, you know, I personally, I'm concerned about that.
00:19:57.000You, you know, you're someone who's approached this, you know, just from, just from a strictly scientific, you know, common sense approach to your activism is rooted in that.
00:20:11.000What do you make of religious groups coming into the, you know, who are now part of the protest?
00:20:18.000Of course, you can't control, there are all kinds of groups that are going to attach themselves to a mass movement.
00:20:23.000But, but increasingly we're seeing religious communities come to the fore opposing gender ideology, but sometimes even opposing homosexuality.
00:20:33.000And, and what do you, does that concern you?
00:20:49.000That, as I mentioned before, 80 to 90% of these kids grew out of it.
00:20:53.000The most recent study that was done before puberty blockers followed 139 boys from the age of four or five, all the way into their twenties.
00:21:00.00087.8% grew out of it, but 63.6% grew up to be gay.
00:23:24.000This is a body modification cult that has now affected hundreds of thousands of kids across North America who have come to believe that there's something wrong with them just because they're a little bit different or they're struggling in life.
00:28:49.000And that would be really dumb of people to do that.
00:28:52.000Let me just say that and I will catch them.
00:28:55.000But I was thinking about this the other day.
00:28:58.000I think the only time I've ever had a little bit of worry was in the midst of this attack in Montreal because I didn't know what the heck was happening.
00:29:06.000I was being suddenly hit from all sides.
00:29:08.000I had no idea this was coming until I was being punched in the face.
00:29:11.000And I was being hit and pushed from all sides.
00:29:13.000I didn't know how many people there were.
00:29:14.000I took a really big shot to the back of my head, which kind of left a dent at the base of my skull.
00:29:19.000But there was a split second in there.
00:29:23.000And time almost slows down in those moments.
00:29:25.000But even then, I wasn't going to run from these guys.
00:29:30.000They stomped on my body cam in the middle of the street.
00:29:32.000So I pulled up my phone to film them for police.
00:29:35.000And that's when this guy picked up this traffic cone and swung it in my head four times, which I blocked each time doing my best karate kid impression, wax off or wax on, whatever it is.
00:29:44.000But that traffic cone broke my arm, which I didn't even know at the time.
00:29:48.000I knew it hurt a little bit, but you have so much adrenaline running in those situations.
00:29:52.000And then, of course, police did nothing.
00:30:13.000That's the one time I was careful when the morning I didn't announce when I was going because we went to Portland State University with Peter Bogosian, the professor who got run out of there.
00:30:21.000And this big YouTuber from California named James Clute.
00:30:24.000And so we paid for some security that day because Portland is one city you need to worry about a little.
00:30:55.000Canada recently issued a travel advisory to the US warning that some states have enacted laws that might affect your visit.
00:31:10.000You know, we give these kinds of advisories to travel to authoritarian regimes, for example.
00:31:17.000But we haven't actually seen any such advisory for places like Iran or Afghanistan or, you know, a whole host of other countries that criminalize homosexuality.
00:32:02.000And the problem with the Conservative Party, I'll tell you some inside info, is if Pierre Poiliev speaks out against this, he'll have a revolt from his own party members.
00:32:14.000Because a bunch of them are on board with pushing this trans stuff on kids.
00:32:18.000His deputy, Melissa Lantzman, when Bill C-4 passed.
00:32:22.000Now, Bill C-4 is this bill which makes it a criminal offense to help a girl feel comfortable as a girl or to help a boy feel comfortable as a boy.
00:32:32.000It's totally fine to indoctrinate your little girl into believing she's a boy and she needs to cut her breasts off and go on testosterone and become a lifelong pharmaceutical patient.
00:32:41.000That's apparently loving and kind, but if you reject that and don't want to transition your child and want to help them feel comfortable with their own skin, that's now called conversion therapy.
00:33:45.000We're not going to give him a choice because he can't ignore 90% of parents and he can't ignore all the liberal voters who also want to know when their child has a new name and pronouns at school.
00:33:59.00084% of Canadians say that parents should know about this.
00:34:04.000Of the other 16%, most of them don't even know what they're talking about when they get these polls, when they get a phone call or a text or they do this online poll, however they're doing it.
00:34:14.000If you talk to those other 16%, you'll be able to switch a bunch of them around to common sense right away.
00:34:21.000And then you'll be left with six or 7% of the population.
00:34:25.000Mostly young women, young leftist women who are pushing this.
00:34:57.000Why do you think the medical community in the UK, Sweden, Norway, and all of these other countries, which have reversed some of these things on gender, on puberty blockers and so on.
00:35:12.000Why has the medical community in Canada, why have they been slow to act?
00:35:17.000What gave a rise to these decisions in these other countries?
00:35:54.000So a bunch of these heads of provincial medical bodies have got to go, but they're installed by the NDP government or whatever government is in charge.
00:36:05.000So good luck fixing this in BC right now with the NDP.
00:36:10.000We need to get new medical officers and then they need to do the right thing.
00:36:13.000But yeah, England, Sweden, Finland have all conducted a systematic review, which is the gold standard for medicine, looking at all the evidence unbiased and found there is no evidence to support this.
00:36:24.000Norway and Denmark are working off of their systematic reviews to also put a stop to this.
00:36:28.000Now, just a couple of weeks ago, the AAP, the American Academy of Pediatrics announced that they are now conducting a systematic review.
00:36:40.000I still don't believe they're going to do it completely honestly because they're a corrupt organization, but it's a huge step.
00:36:46.000And they've been ignoring calls from doctors within their own body, the AAP, and now they're not because of all of the outrage we've created.
00:36:56.000This is because of parents speaking up.
00:36:59.000This is because of people learning what's going on and they can't ignore it anymore.
00:37:03.000So with Canada, we often follow the US.
00:37:06.000So when the AAP fixes this and the AMA, American Medical Association and the Endocrine Society, where the president just received letters from top medical officials from, I think, 15 different countries, something like that in Europe.
00:37:21.000They all wrote to the president of the Endocrine Society telling him that he was lying because he's saying things that go contrary to their own findings previously, but he's a liar.
00:37:32.000And so they were calling him out on it.
00:37:34.000And so these medical scandals, like the lobotomy 2.0 is what we're going through right now.
00:37:44.000What's going on is a lobotomy for the endocrine system, but we're doing this to kids and we're doing this to far more kids than we're ever affected by lobotomies.
00:38:59.000And what I'm extremely excited about going forward for the entire year, for who knows how long, is I'm now working with the Leadership Institute, which a lot of people haven't heard of.
00:39:08.000But it's a really large and old and successful conservative organization in the States.
00:39:14.000And for the longest time, they've been training people.
00:39:16.000They train them how to run for politics and to win.
00:39:19.000There's a new division run out of Sarasota, Florida, by my friend, Bridget Ziegler.
00:39:26.000And they are training people how to run for school board all across the country and how to win.
00:39:32.000So that they can flip these school boards from liberal to conservative, because that's the only way we're going to fix a lot of this stuff.
00:39:39.000A lot of people rely on the prime minister or the president to be some savior.
00:39:44.000Change happens at the grassroots level.
00:39:46.000And what we need to do in Canada is get people running for school board, but they don't really know how to do it successfully.
00:39:51.000So we're going to need to start an organization up here to do that same sort of thing.
00:39:54.000But I'm going to be touring the U.S., the Leadership Institute, speaking at universities.
00:39:58.000And instead of me just hanging out uninvited on a university campus, the Leadership Institute has campus reform groups at all of these universities all across the country.
00:40:08.000So they'll be inviting me in for formal events where I speak.
00:40:13.000And this will start these mini riots on campus, which generates this whole media circuit, the whole media cycle, and generates millions of views.
00:40:24.000And I'm going to be in London at the end of October, and I'm invited to Jordan Peterson's conference that he's having there October 30th to November 1st.
00:40:32.000I'm going to go over to Ireland for a few days because they have this hate speech bill that needs some more exposure.
00:40:38.000And last time I was in Ireland, it was pretty easy to generate national news, just hanging out on the busiest road in Dublin there.
00:40:44.000Some police got involved and embarrassed themselves, and I got, I think, 6 million views plus national news.
00:40:50.000So I'm going to go back there and help them out with the hate speech bill.
00:40:53.000But really, I'm just most of the time going to be traveling around Canada in the US and doing what I do, having one conversation at a time, often just out on the streets.