Juno News - The INSIDE SCOOP on my day in Ottawa and interview with Pierre Poilievre

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00:01:05.700 to the interview that I conducted with Pierre Polyev.

00:01:09.500 I'm going to tell you all about the behind the scenes,

00:01:11.900 behind that interview.

00:01:13.140 I'm going to share with you exclusive clips.

00:01:15.580 And then at 7 p.m. tonight,

00:01:17.200 we are going to air the full interview for subscribers

00:01:20.340 over at junonews.com.

00:01:22.220 So make sure you go check that out. I really want you to see the interview. It was great.

00:01:26.180 I got to sit down with Pierre, asked him a wide range of issues and topics.

00:01:32.160 We discussed so many things from immigration to crime. We talked about inflation.

00:01:37.540 We talked about Trudeau. We talked about the election. We talked about a lot of things.

00:01:40.760 So you're really going to want to check that out.

00:01:42.580 So I want to tell you a little bit about the interview because it almost didn't happen.

00:01:46.280 I have been kind of talking behind the scenes with Pierre Polyev's team and the OLO, the Opposition Leader's Office, and we decided to confirm the interview.

00:01:56.460 We chose Wednesday. We decided that that was when it was going to happen.

00:02:01.180 And basically, we were about to fly out, and all of a sudden, anyone who's in Ontario right now knows that we are facing severe winter weather right now.

00:02:10.100 It was a very cold day in Ottawa, and there was sort of like a pending blizzard that was

00:02:15.740 supposed to roll through and completely shut down the airports and everything.

00:02:20.540 And so my husband and I were flying out in the morning to get to Ottawa for the interview,

00:02:24.960 didn't even know if the plane was going to take off, what was going to happen.

00:02:28.320 Fortunately, we got there, landed, got into a car, rushed downtown to the Conservative

00:02:34.040 Party's headquarters, and I got to go in there, made it just in time to sit down with

00:02:39.600 Pierre is such a nice guy very gracious gave us lots of time there were no

00:02:43.800 parameters restrictions around the interview about to ask any questions that

00:02:47.220 I want it was a lot of fun I really enjoyed my conversation with him he he

00:02:50.880 surprised me with some of his answers but it really just solid stuff and I

00:02:54.600 really want you to be able to watch that full interview so like I said 7 p.m.

00:02:58.560 tonight you have to subscribe though go to Juno news and subscribe I'll give you

00:03:02.400 a little teaser of what the interview looks like so here is one of my favorite

00:03:07.080 exchanges of the interview when we were talking about illegal immigration and what Mr. Polyev

00:03:12.460 would do to crack down on illegal immigration. One of the other things that's happening in the

00:03:18.060 states right now in the new administration is that President Trump has been serious about

00:03:22.660 deportations. And a couple of weeks ago, we had Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying that if he

00:03:28.340 were the Canadians, he'd be concerned that a lot of the bad people that are in the United States

00:03:32.060 right now might try to sneak up into Canada. This happened last time Trump was President,

00:03:36.760 Mr. Trump was president, where we had people crossing illegally through Roxham Road, thousands

00:03:41.400 and thousands and thousands. And it was disgraceful. I went there myself, Pierre, and I couldn't

00:03:45.920 believe it. You had CBSA officers acting like bellhops, lifting their suitcases, putting them

00:03:50.860 into buses, taking them to Toronto or Montreal, their choice. They got to choose where they would

00:03:55.080 go. So we were sort of facilitating illegal entry into our country. I believe Roxham Road has been

00:04:00.860 closed, but I'm sure that happens in other places. I'm wondering, what would you do to stop bad

00:04:06.300 people that are about to be deported from the United States from just walking across

00:04:09.700 into Canada?

00:04:11.400 Well, they closed Roxham Road 30 days after I issued an ultimatum to Justin Trudeau that

00:04:16.900 he had to close it, or that we would move a non-confidence. So he actually met my ultimatum

00:04:23.120 and closed it, which proved that what they had been saying before was all a lie. They

00:04:26.380 claimed they had no way of closing it. Well, of course they had a way of closing it. They

00:04:29.700 didn't want to. We're a nation with borders, and we have the ability to seal our borders.

00:04:36.200 against illegal crossers and to block people from coming in and those that get onto our 1.00

00:04:41.840 soil, what you need to do is just do a last in first out refugee review of their claim.

00:04:49.900 And this is how it works.

00:04:50.900 If you're the last person into the country, then you immediately have your claim heard,

00:04:56.800 which means that within a couple of weeks, if your claim is false, you're sent back.

00:05:02.360 What that does is it sends the signal to everyone who might come in the future that they're

00:05:10.700 going to be sent home all automatically.

00:05:12.360 The problem right now is that if someone gets in illegally, and even if they're not a real

00:05:17.460 refugee, they're not fleeing danger, they have seven or eight years of appeals, appeals,

00:05:23.600 appeals during which we're paying for hotels and lawyers and food.

00:05:27.120 And health care above and beyond what Canadians get.

00:05:29.060 above and beyond what Canadians get, so that then attracts more people to say,

00:05:33.620 oh, hey, if I get to Canada, even though I'm not a real refugee,

00:05:36.920 I can get into the country and I'll be bounced around in the system at someone else's expense forever.

00:05:41.920 If we solve that problem, the message would go out very quickly

00:05:45.140 that Canada is not a place you come to make a false or fraudulent claim.

00:05:50.060 And I believe you would see a very real reduction in the number of people who even tried to come.

00:05:55.680 I have a lot of sympathy for real refugees.

00:05:57.900 My wife is a refugee. This has been a wonderful refuge for people who genuinely have claims,

00:06:02.840 and that still will be the case when I'm prime minister.

00:06:05.600 But we can't take in fraudulent, fake claimants and pay their bills for seven years while they work the system.

00:06:11.140 So there was, and again, we're going to release the entire interview tonight at 7 p.m. on our website, JunoNews.com.

00:06:17.580 Head on over there, subscribe so you can make sure that you get access and you can watch that entire interview.

00:06:22.440 Okay, folks, let's get to the news today because there is quite a bit to get to today.

00:06:26.760 I want to talk about the premiers. So the Canadian premiers all went down to Washington, D.C. They're

00:06:33.460 all trying to negotiate, trying to figure out what is happening with the tariffs, trying to make some

00:06:38.500 inroads with the Trump administration. Kind of a little too little too late, guys, but at least

00:06:43.140 they're finally there doing what Danielle Smith did from day one, which is just have some face 0.99

00:06:47.820 time, have some one-on-one time, get to know people, try to figure out what is exactly going

00:06:52.120 on behind these threads. How can we negotiate a better deal? How can we secure a better life for

00:06:57.580 everybody in North America? We all want the same stuff here. We all want secure borders. We all

00:07:02.580 want safe streets. We all want to get drugs off our streets. We don't want criminals. We don't

00:07:06.880 want terrorists. We don't want illegal immigrants. We all agree and we all want a strong economy. 1.00

00:07:11.800 We want mutually beneficial things. So let's go down and talk about it. This is something that

00:07:17.080 came out of it that I just think is so embarrassing. Okay, so first you had Doug Ford, Ontario Premier.

00:07:21.760 He's in the middle of the election. He's striking a good tone. A lot of people I talk to around

00:07:25.740 Ontario, they might not like Doug Ford that much. They might not like the conservative government

00:07:29.040 that much, but they like the way that he's approaching the situation, his tone and his

00:07:33.860 ideas. And so graciously, you know, he was asked, who in the White House did you meet with? Who

00:07:38.540 were you meeting with? And he politely said, you know, I'm not at liberty to say, but we had some

00:07:42.740 productive meetings. And I think that's the way to go. You don't go out and name people's names

00:07:47.740 and expose what the conversations were like

00:07:51.440 when you're in the middle of a negotiation.

00:07:53.420 So Doug Ford kind of playing it smart.

00:07:56.260 And then on the other hand,

00:07:57.660 you have the BC Premier, David Eby,

00:08:01.520 who came right out and just said everything.

00:08:04.940 So here we have Global News reporting

00:08:06.760 that BC Premier David Eby says

00:08:09.120 the premiers had a frank conversation

00:08:10.860 with the Trump administration officials

00:08:12.700 about the 51st state comment

00:08:14.260 and stressed it's a non-starter.

00:08:16.280 Evie says that the two representatives that they met with, and then he names them, Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair and Director of Presidential Personnel Sergio Gore, agreed to share a few items with Trump.

00:08:28.580 One, the willingness to engage, two, work on key areas of agreement, and three, that Canada would never be the 51st state.

00:08:36.520 Well, I think David Evie was speaking out of terms because James Blair himself, the person who he met with, commented and replied to this on X.

00:08:47.420 He said it was pleasant to meet with the premiers.

00:08:50.100 To be clear, we never agreed that Canada would not be the 51st state.

00:08:55.420 We only agreed to share Premier Eby's comments.

00:08:59.020 Further, we said the best way to understand President Trump's position is to take what he says at face value.

00:09:07.340 Unbelievable, folks.

00:09:08.620 Unbelievable.

00:09:09.580 So because David Eby was out there speaking out of turn, because he volunteered the information

00:09:14.580 to the media that the 51st date comment is off the table, well, that obviously annoyed

00:09:19.480 the Trump administration.

00:09:20.260 That obviously annoyed Mr. Blair.

00:09:22.980 So what did he do?

00:09:24.040 He doubled down.

00:09:25.040 Because this is what we're doing.

00:09:26.140 We're in the middle of a negotiation.

00:09:27.300 You have the Canadians speaking out of turn, saying that they agreed to something that

00:09:31.380 the Americans said, no, no, no, that's one of our main negotiating sticks.

00:09:35.320 This is a stalking horse, folks. This is what the Americans are threatening Canada with so that they 0.85

00:09:40.900 can get a better trade deal. And by Canada saying, no, no, no, this is off the table. It's not going

00:09:45.680 to happen. It's just making the Americans double down. This is just bad negotiation tactics. Again,

00:09:50.820 everybody should go out and read the art of the deal. Okay. Donald Trump has let us know from,

00:09:55.900 for years, he published this book like 30 years ago. We know how he negotiates a deal. We know

00:10:01.140 his strategy this is just one of his tactics and now that he's president he's using it and so is

00:10:05.940 his administration so to have the bbc premier come out and do this it was a gaffe it was a faux pas

00:10:11.620 it was embarrassing it doesn't help the negotiation again i think that premier ford is taking the right

00:10:17.700 approach okay well we got some further clarity we had another uh speech so justin trudeau is

00:10:23.220 gallivanting around europe you know guys this is so frustrating so frustrating folks we have a crisis

00:10:30.020 in Canada, right? We are facing impending doom with a tariff threat from the U.S. administration,

00:10:36.580 okay? And what is our Prime Minister doing? Gallivanting across Europe, going from city to

00:10:41.520 city, engaging in the kind of international development stuff that he prefers, frankly,

00:10:46.540 than rolling up his sleeves and doing the hard work. We don't have Parliament, we don't have

00:10:49.800 government in session. And then here we have Prime Minister Justin Trude trying to stir the pot,

00:10:54.140 trying to gain favour for his Liberal Party, get more people, you know, the more people are afraid

00:10:59.260 of the Americans, the more, the better that the liberals are doing in the polls. So here's Trudeau

00:11:04.300 speaking at a press conference in Brussels, Belgium. Justin Trudeau told reporters, again,

00:11:09.640 he said this in the past, he says, there's not a snowball's hell in chance that Canada will ever be

00:11:13.760 the 51st state. And he added at the same time, we have to take seriously what President Trump says.

00:11:20.060 Let's play that clip. There's not a snowball's chance in hell that Canada will ever be the 51st

00:11:26.720 state. At the same time, from having worked with President Trump for close over eight years now,

00:11:35.820 I can tell you that we have to take seriously what he says and make sure we're

00:11:42.320 responding appropriately.

00:11:45.480 After initially not taking the comments by Trump very seriously, remember that Trudeau

00:11:51.360 sort of laughed it off at the beginning, which I think is actually the right approach. I talked

00:11:54.680 to Preston Manning and he agreed. He thinks that this was all initially meant as a joke to kind of

00:12:01.380 ruse Trudeau and tease Trudeau and that it's really the Laurentians and the media that are

00:12:06.860 blowing things out of proportion, making it seem like it's a real threat that Canada is about to

00:12:10.860 get annexed any minute. While Stephen Harper, the former Conservative Prime Minister, jumped in and

00:12:16.600 shared serious concern. So Stephen Harper was speaking on Tuesday in Ottawa at a launch party

00:12:23.800 for his book, Flags of Canada. And there he said that U.S. President Donald Trump's annexation

00:12:29.540 threats should be met with unwavering determination to preserve this country's independence at any

00:12:35.860 cost. He said that Canada should accept any level of damage to fight back against Donald Trump. So

00:12:42.540 it seems like former Prime Minister Stephen Harper really takes this threat literally. And he does

00:12:49.080 think that Trump is trying to take over Canada, that it is a serious, literal threat that we

00:12:55.800 should be willing to accept any level of damage. I don't agree with that, folks. I think that,

00:12:59.640 again, this is all part of the negotiation. And look at what Danielle Smith had to say

00:13:04.640 in Washington, D.C. She says that she thinks that they're making inroads and that things

00:13:09.520 are going well. So the people who are on the ground talking to American officials and Republican

00:13:14.380 insiders in Washington, someone like Danielle Smith, says, like, let's not lose our minds over

00:13:19.780 this. Let's keep calm and negotiate a deal. Here is what Danielle Smith had to say.

00:13:24.760 I think diplomacy is working. I think that the fact that we got a 30-day reprieve was because

00:13:30.260 we agreed to work on the cross-border problem of fentanyl. I was pleased to see the federal

00:13:34.560 government announced a fentanyl czar, and my administration has already been in touch with

00:13:39.040 him to talk about how in Alberta we can lend to the success of those efforts. So what I would say

00:13:44.880 is what I've seen from this president is that he is prepared to make a deal.

00:13:49.060 And in other news, Canada has finally appointed a fentanyl czar. So the Trudeau government on

00:13:54.840 Tuesday appointed Kevin Brousseau, his national security advisor, has now become Canada's first

00:14:02.100 fentanyl czar. Brousseau is a former senior officer in the RCMP, rising up the ranks to

00:14:06.800 become Manitoba's Deputy Commissioner in 2016. He left policing in 2019 to become a senior public

00:14:13.240 servant, serving as the Assistant Deputy to Transport Canada and then Associate Deputy for

00:14:19.400 the Department of Fisheries. Speaking to reporters in Washington, D.C., Finance and Intergovernment

00:14:24.360 Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc said that he had spoken to Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary,

00:14:30.460 Howard Lutnick, about Canada's new fentanyl czar, adding that he feels confident that they very

00:14:35.520 much have their attention. Here is this clip from Washington. Howard Lutnick was there. The

00:14:42.640 National Economic Advisor to President Trump was also there. We started the conversation by

00:14:49.540 discussing our shared priorities around border security and the fight against fentanyl. We took

00:14:55.620 stock of the good work that has been done around illegal migration. We spoke about the appointment

00:15:01.960 of our fentanyl czar who will be in Washington in a few days. I'm confident that we very much

00:15:09.380 have their attention. They made that clear to us that Canada is very much top of mind for

00:15:16.360 the work that Mr. Lutnick's doing. That was encouraging. Okay, moving on. So yesterday on

00:15:21.180 the show, I had Cosme Zherja, a senior reporter and journalist for True North on the show. We

00:15:25.980 spent the entire episode talking about Mark Carney and how he has not really been vetted.

00:15:30.120 We don't really know much about him. And yet he's basically been selected to become Canada's

00:15:36.000 next prime minister. He'll probably be the prime minister sometime in early March after the liberal

00:15:41.640 leadership vote. Well, I want to show this clip of Mark Carney that's making the rounds. He was

00:15:47.180 in Kelowna, British Columbia. And here's what he tells the crowd. He says that all of the federal

00:15:53.680 powers of the federal government, including the Emergencies Act, should be used against the

00:16:00.000 Americans in this trade war. So first of all, the liberals are playing this up as a crisis,

00:16:04.280 as an existential threat to Canada, because it's better for their electoral future if Canadians 1.00

00:16:08.580 are afraid and worried and fearful and divided. This is the liberal playbook. They've used it

00:16:13.100 over and over again. And Mark Carney, again, just lets the cat right out of the bag and says,

00:16:18.000 hey, remember when we used those Emergencies Act illegally during the COVID Freedom Convoy

00:16:22.860 to crack down on peaceful protesters? Well, we're going to do that again. We will use the

00:16:28.280 emergency power once again it's just one crisis one emergency after the next for these people

00:16:34.020 and again Carney showing us a different side of him that you probably won't see in the legacy

00:16:39.500 media here is that clip and something that my government is going to do is to use all of the

00:16:44.980 powers of the federal government including the emergency powers of the federal government to

00:16:49.960 accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy and take on the americans

00:16:57.080 now true north and juno news may be some of the only outlets in the country delivering the news

00:17:03.480 telling you the truth telling you the facts about someone like mark carney who is again very unvetted

00:17:08.300 the media is not looking at him critically they are not showing canadians the full picture they're

00:17:13.220 just giving him this sort of glossy rosy honeymoon period like look at this fresh new face he's a

00:17:19.200 smart central banker who's going to come save canada from those mean nasty americans well you

00:17:24.300 deserve to see both sides. Canadians deserve to see both sides because otherwise Canadians aren't

00:17:29.220 going to know who this man really is. And again, I'm worried that Canadians will make a colossal 1.00

00:17:34.500 mistake in the next election if they don't learn more. And so again, we've seen this in the polls.

00:17:39.540 I had Hamish Marshall, great pollster on the show earlier this week to talk about the fact that now

00:17:44.040 that Trudeau is out of the picture and now that it looks like Mark Carney will be the person

00:17:48.000 running, the election is actually going to be a lot tighter than we initially thought. It's not

00:17:52.820 going to be a shoe-in for Pierre Poliev and the Conservatives. It's not going to be a cakewalk

00:17:57.200 and an easy majority. So the latest polls to come out, this was in the National Post, a new Leger 0.85

00:18:02.600 poll suggests that a Mark Carney-led Liberal Party could boost Liberal support by six points,

00:18:08.860 up to 37% tying the Tories, tying the Conservatives. Unbelievable. Unbelievable if Canadians let the

00:18:16.540 Liberals get away with what they've done to the country over the last nine years. I can't say this

00:18:21.460 enough folks it is so important that we have independent media we have an independent news

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00:19:01.160 to junonews.com and please subscribe. Okay, moving on. So this Saturday is Flag Day. Yes,

00:19:08.980 we have a Flag Day in Canada. It is the day where you're supposed to show your pride in the Canadian

00:19:13.580 flag honor the anniversary of the new flag of canada remember we used to have the red ensign

00:19:18.300 it was redone to show that we were more independent from the united kingdom we got

00:19:22.380 the maple leaf that has been our flag for some 60 years now and this weekend is the day that

00:19:27.340 you're supposed to remember that fly the flag show your patriotism so it's interesting because we

00:19:31.740 have seen a sort of resurgence of patriotism in canada a love of country particularly on the

00:19:38.220 political left on the liberal side of the aisle. Recall that during the Freedom Convoy, during the

00:19:43.500 depth of the COVID lockdowns, the Freedom Convoy came out and one of the rallying points that they

00:19:48.620 had was a Canadian flag. They were fighting for their Canadian values that they felt had been

00:19:53.340 taken away from the Trudeau government, their Canadian freedoms that are enshrined in our

00:19:57.740 charter. They were using the flag as a rallying point to show, hey, look, we're all Canadian. We

00:20:02.300 love this country and we want our country back, while the left and the liberals hated that. They

00:20:06.700 They hated this idea that this sort of blue collar group of rowdy Canadians were saying enough of the lockdowns and that they were using the flag to the point where the left really separated themselves and denounced the flag.

00:20:18.580 And they decided that the Canadian flag was a symbol of hate, was a symbol of far right, whatever they called us. 0.97

00:20:25.300 It was total nonsense and it was ridiculous. 0.89

00:20:27.680 You know, we're talking about years and years of the left demonizing Canadians, telling us that we're racist, telling us that our country is genocidal and that we were built off of oppression and really saying that they wanted nothing to do with Canada. 0.94

00:20:40.980 I was happy for the political right to take over the flag and have that be our symbol because we still love our country.

00:20:46.520 We still believe in our country.

00:20:48.200 Well, now that we're in this trade war with the Americans and war of words between the Trump

00:20:52.540 administration, more Canadians on the political left and the liberals are willing to use the flag

00:20:58.520 and trying to take the flag back. Hey, I'll take it. I think that we should all rally around the

00:21:02.000 flag, unite around the flag. And so if you saw, I did an interview with Preston Manning, the

00:21:07.100 former leader of the Reform Party in Canada, and he had this message for Canadians. He said

00:21:12.920 that the best way to root out anti-Canadianism is to fly the flag. Here is what that looked like

00:21:19.020 when he told me on my show last week. This is anti-Canadianism. Try and root out the anti-Canadianism

00:21:24.980 from our institutions. And one simple practical suggestion I've had to friends is to fly the flag.

00:21:33.960 You know, when you go to the U.S. and go through the Midwestern towns or even in New England,

00:21:40.700 But every eight or nine house has one of these American flags on it.

00:21:48.180 Americans, for all their faults that we continually point out, are basically proud of their own country.

00:21:54.480 And one of the ways they show it is to fly the flag.

00:21:56.500 Well, why don't we fly the flag?

00:21:58.020 Why don't we fly the flag?

00:21:59.480 And so, hey, I think that a lot of people may have seen our interview and agreed with us because Pierre Paulyev, a couple of days later, posted this clip on X.

00:22:06.700 similarly encouraging Canadians to go out there, purchase a flag for Flag Day,

00:22:12.040 celebrate the Maple Leaf, celebrate Canada. Here is what that looked like.

00:22:15.820 This Saturday is in fact Flag Day. So I'm encouraging everyone, regardless of your 0.70

00:22:21.760 political allegiance, to go out, get yourself a flag, big or small, put it on a flagpole in front

00:22:27.780 of your home or through your window or in any other way that you can show our colors. We're

00:22:34.160 very proud of this country. We'll never be the 51st state. We will always be a strong,

00:22:40.180 self-reliant, sovereign country. So let's show that message by raising the flag.

00:22:56.200 And just because some liberals and some left-wingers on social media are now trying to take the flag

00:23:01.060 back doesn't mean that the actual Liberal Party of Canada has because they haven't officially

00:23:05.300 celebrated or recognized Flag Day since 2020. Remember that Justin Trudeau lowered the flag

00:23:12.020 to half staff after that fake news hoax of the unmarked grave story came out. He left the flag

00:23:17.800 down at half mass for months and months. It was a total disgrace. It was so disgraceful for our

00:23:23.740 country to be humiliated that way with a prime minister who was basically saying that we should

00:23:27.740 have shame. We should feel shame in our country. We shouldn't fly the flag. We shouldn't celebrate

00:23:31.540 being Canadians. That is the wrong approach. I hope the Liberals will reverse that and once again 1.00

00:23:36.700 recognize something like Flag Day, but I don't think it's going to happen this year. We have

00:23:40.800 seen some Liberal boosters online, like I said, have a little change in tune, change of tone when

00:23:46.020 it came to the flag. So I'm going to point one of my favorite examples of hypocritical Liberals out. 0.97

00:23:52.020 So this is an individual named Mike Gibbs. He is a big Liberal supporter on X, and he wrote this 0.92

00:23:56.840 back in 2022. Okay. So this was three years ago. He says on this Canada day, I can't help but think

00:24:03.580 perhaps we need a new flag or a refresh flag because Canada and arguably our flag was tarnished

00:24:10.660 long before the convoy with centuries of blood and genocidal murder of indigenous nations.

00:24:16.180 We need a reset. We need a new symbol. So that was on July 1st, 2022. Well, the same user,

00:24:22.300 Mike Gibbs, now on February 10th, 2025, had this to say, nothing better than a brand new Canadian

00:24:29.000 flag. We just got it from Canadian Tire. F Trump, F mega. And then he also wrote, you'd think it was

00:24:36.220 Canada Day. I've never seen this many flags up in Ajax before. The resistance to Trump and Canada

00:24:42.900 is growing. All right, pal. You can see his Twitter bio there, Mike Gibbs with the rainbow flag and

00:24:50.040 the Ukraine flag, him, he, him pronouns. Thanks, bud. Thanks, bud. So this guy is saying that

00:24:56.080 there's a resurgence in the Canada flag after just three years ago, telling us that it was

00:25:00.500 genocidal. Yeah, I think we're tired of that. I think we see through you and your noise. So rich,

00:25:06.620 so much irony in the fact that it's now liberals telling us to wrap ourselves in the flag when for

00:25:10.820 years they have been the ones demonizing the flag. Okay. I want to show you earlier, I sat

00:25:16.540 down with Kian Bexie. Like I said, we were in Ottawa for the release of the new announcement

00:25:21.480 of Juno News. So excited to bring this to you. We filmed a promo video outside and then we went back

00:25:27.300 inside and recorded this interview. So part of what we want to offer to subscribers of Juno News

00:25:32.360 is sort of an inside behind the scenes look at journalism. What is it like to be an independent

00:25:37.100 journalist? What is it like to go around the country and tell these stories to Canadians?

00:25:41.320 It was great to have this sort of fireside chat with Kian, who is my co-founder at Juno News.

00:25:46.860 We hope to bring you conversations like this.

00:25:49.320 We're going to offer it to subscribers every month.

00:25:52.040 You're going to get a sit down with Kian and I where we talk about what we're working on,

00:25:55.360 what we're doing, give you a little behind the scenes of what it's like to be an independent journalist in Canada.

00:25:59.940 So here is what that interview looked like.

00:26:04.480 Hi, everyone. I'm very pleased to be joined with my co-founder, Kian Bexty.

00:26:08.580 We have come together to start a new media company, as you probably know, called Juno News.

00:26:13.680 And I'm very pleased.

00:26:14.580 We were actually just outside filming, and it is freezing cold in Ottawa.

00:26:17.660 So if our noses are a little red and our toes are a little cold, it's because we were outside for like half an hour.

00:26:22.920 It kind of brought back memories of the Freedom Convoy, didn't it?

00:26:25.040 Yeah, frigid cold, the cold that you only get in Ottawa when you're outside trying to capture the moment,

00:26:31.560 and the weather just doesn't cooperate.

00:26:34.020 Well, we were talking about it, because I lived in Edmonton for four years.

00:26:36.380 I went to the University of Alberta, and I actually found that it was colder when I lived in Ottawa

00:26:40.180 because in Edmonton, everyone knows that you're going to drive everywhere, right?

00:26:43.880 So you're never really outside for too long.

00:26:45.460 But Ottawa is very much a walking city, so you end up outside a lot, walking from building to building,

00:26:49.780 and it's like a combination of the wind and just the wet cold.

00:26:53.360 It's so cold.

00:26:54.180 It gets you down to your bones.

00:26:55.520 I can't stand it coming from Calgary.

00:26:57.780 But, yeah, it's exciting about Juneau.

00:26:59.820 I really think that this is going to change the media landscape in the country.

00:27:03.160 Well, so why don't we, I mean, the point of this conversation today is

00:27:06.720 I want to do a bit more of a fireside chat.

00:27:08.520 We're going to talk about the news, but I also want to sort of unveil the curtains a little

00:27:12.320 and let the audience know a little bit, like, what it's like to be an independent journalist in Canada,

00:27:16.600 like, why we're doing what we're doing.

00:27:19.040 And one of the things I wanted to ask you, Kian, like, we talked about it a little bit

00:27:22.600 when you came on my show before, but that footage of you with Justin Trudeau on the beach in Tofino.

00:27:27.540 Like, it's so incredible to me that you were able to do that

00:27:30.480 And no legacy media journalist was.

00:27:32.980 People that had so many more resources, they know where Justin Trudeau is.

00:27:37.400 They know what he's doing.

00:27:38.380 But they didn't bother to go and show up there.

00:27:42.320 You've had other opportunities where you've caught up with Trudeau at various places in the country.

00:27:45.540 I think I saw another video of you kind of chasing him out of a meeting somewhere on the East Coast.

00:27:50.280 Yeah, in New Brunswick.

00:27:51.100 So how do you do it?

00:27:52.280 How do you find him?

00:27:53.560 How do you stake out?

00:27:54.780 Tell us what goes into something like that.

00:27:56.040 A lot of it comes down to, I mean, our viewers at The Counter Signal, they're really well-connected people.

00:28:03.320 And we get tips every day.

00:28:05.540 Oh, I saw the Prime Minister here. Oh, I saw Greta Thunberg here.

00:28:08.800 Oh, you know, all of these examples of citizen journalism that they're doing,

00:28:13.620 that when they send it to us, we're able to take action.

00:28:16.000 Most people don't have the resources to fly across the country and go find Trudeau

00:28:19.680 when he's coming out of an oyster shop.

00:28:21.780 You know, we do, though, luckily, and we have the questions to pepper him with when he comes out.

00:28:26.880 So it's a bit of a team effort.

00:28:28.360 It's a mutual relationship with our viewers who constantly, you know, they follow his plane.

00:28:34.040 They track it online and give us live updates of what's going on.

00:28:38.440 And, of course, our team at the Counter Signal as well.

00:28:41.100 I just couldn't do it without them as well.

00:28:42.740 They are constantly on the ball, finding new events, new locations where we're able to track them down and ask questions.

00:28:50.540 And it's not just Trudeau that we're interested in.

00:28:52.700 It's every single politician in this country, whether they're conservative, whether they're

00:28:58.320 United Conservative in Alberta, or whether they're a liberal in Ottawa.

00:29:03.140 We want to hold the people in power accountable because our viewers deserve nothing less.

00:29:08.860 I feel that way, too.

00:29:09.620 So for me, I started in journalism as an opinion writer.

00:29:12.880 I wrote in the Toronto Sun, I wrote an opinion column.

00:29:15.220 And it started out by me writing my opinion about the immigration system.

00:29:18.740 I was really opposed to what Justin Trudeau was doing in 2016 when he first got elected.

00:29:22.440 I thought that the Syrian refugee pledge was dangerous, just given the volatile population over there 1.00

00:29:27.700 and the research I was doing into how they were fast-tracking it so people weren't being vetted.

00:29:32.900 They were just rushing people over. It was a total mess.

00:29:35.480 And the more that I wrote about immigration from an opinion perspective, I started getting so many tips.

00:29:40.680 My inbox would just fill up with people inside the government, people who were working on these very programs

00:29:45.820 who kind of, like, I was onto something, or MPs, people.

00:29:48.920 I started getting so many tips, even from immigrants themselves.

00:29:52.400 Like, I remember once I broke a story about how people who were not citizens

00:29:56.240 were being sent Elections Canada ballots.

00:29:59.040 And it was literally sent to me by someone who was not a citizen,

00:30:01.600 who was like, hey, they're sending me this ballot,

00:30:04.320 and, like, I'm not even supposed to vote in your country.

00:30:06.320 So it is the amazing thing in journalism that, like, the more you do,

00:30:10.280 the more it comes to you.

00:30:12.060 Yeah, it's definitely a positive feedback loop.

00:30:13.720 Yeah, and so much of it comes from the citizen journals.

00:30:18.060 One of my favorite recent examples was when we had Elon Musk down there doing Doge in the U.S.,

00:30:25.360 and they were uncovering all of the crazy, crazy programs that were happening at USAID or USAID.

00:30:31.460 And then all of a sudden, the sleuths went in and did the same thing to the Canadian equivalent.

00:30:36.420 And there was a whole thing about whether the website was down, whether they were trying to hide it, whatever happened there.

00:30:41.100 But regardless of that, it was like all of a sudden there were dozens, if not hundreds, of really amazing researchers finding the most ridiculous examples of these government programs and putting them out there.

00:30:54.100 So, you know, the media is stacked against sort of free-thinking, free-speaking people in this country because the Trudeau government funds the legacy media, like they pay for journalism.

00:31:04.680 But I think that there's just such a groundswell of independent voices, independent media.

00:31:09.480 Yeah, that's why I'm so excited to be in this space,

00:31:11.760 like to launch Juno News, to have this platform.

00:31:14.540 I think it's like we're at the right place at the right time

00:31:16.300 because hopefully there'll be a change of government.

00:31:18.600 I really hope Pierre Polyev follows through and defunds the CBC immediately,

00:31:23.260 gets rid of all these other subsidies and programs to journalists

00:31:26.660 because there'll be a vacuum.

00:31:28.240 I imagine that a lot of those companies will disappear

00:31:30.420 and more Canadians will come to trusted, independent voices.

00:31:35.000 So that's why I'm excited to be launching this.

00:31:37.980 How do you feel?

00:31:38.560 What's terrible about the CBC, aside from their just blatant partisanship, is that they're losing ad money, which is like the number one indicator of a failing news site.

00:31:49.460 Ads are how companies should be run, news companies should be run.

00:31:53.100 If you're not getting views on the site, then what's the point of the news company existing in the first place?

00:32:00.540 And the CBC is hemorrhaging ad revenue.

00:32:02.660 They're supported by our tax dollars, and we're supposed to hope that enough people are viewing it that they're sort of able to sustain themselves, but that just hasn't been the case.

00:32:11.420 It hasn't been the case with most mainstream media legacy outlets, and that's why they rely on the journalism subsidy.

00:32:17.540 On top of all of the ad contracts that they have with the government of Canada and every other provincial government in the country,

00:32:24.460 which is reasonable for governments to advertise on these platforms, because I was talking to someone about this yesterday.

00:32:31.860 Anyway, on the Counter Signal, we have ads with the Alberta government, and the people that view our news, some of them are, like, morally opposed to viewing anything in the mainstream media, and especially the CBC.

00:32:46.320 But they still have a right to view messaging that is important from the government, whether it's about budget plans or important, like, announcements that they're making.

00:32:57.140 And the federal government does the same thing with legacy media outlets

00:33:01.200 and even some, like, smaller media outlets.

00:33:03.380 I don't think they pick and choose favorites there.

00:33:05.140 And I think that that's fine.

00:33:06.380 But there's a difference between that and blatantly subsidizing a media company

00:33:11.260 because it's a media company.

00:33:13.120 Well, to the point about ads, it's one of those funny things.

00:33:15.420 It's like if the government wants to get to your readers, that's the way to do it.

00:33:19.000 And if you say no to those government ads, they're just going to turn and try to find,

00:33:22.220 they basically give the money to your competitors.

00:33:24.260 I don't really have a problem with that.

00:33:25.960 But the thing that drives me just absolutely crazy is, you know, the whole premise behind the media bailouts is that the media companies said that there's no business case in Canada, that you cannot make money and run a business and do journalism because Canadians aren't willing to pay for it.

00:33:40.840 Well, part of the reason they're not willing to pay for it is because the CBC gives it away for free, right?

00:33:44.680 The CBC doesn't have a paywall.

00:33:45.940 They don't require subscriptions.

00:33:47.180 So they're doing all of this journalism, giving it away for free.

00:33:50.120 And then they say to their competitors, like, you know, you have to monetize by creating subscriptions and paywalls, but you're competing on an uneven playing field because the CBC has them.

00:33:59.740 But then even for the large newspapers like the Toronto Stars and the Post Media, you know, they say that they need the government bailouts just to exist, and they wouldn't exist without it.

00:34:09.020 But I think that the independent media has, again, proven that the claim that they're making is false.

00:34:14.120 It's not true.

00:34:15.120 Canadians are willing to pay for journalism.

00:34:16.980 They're willing to pay for news.

00:34:18.160 We're living proof of that, right?

00:34:19.600 Like, look at the businesses that we both built.

00:34:21.860 Look at the Rebel.

00:34:23.380 Like, there's so many Canadians that are willing to pay for this.

00:34:25.640 And we all have, like, successful, thriving businesses

00:34:28.160 because Canadians are so passionate about paying for the news

00:34:31.160 that they're willing to sometimes not even pay for the subscription,

00:34:33.940 but they want to donate and give us an extra $200

00:34:35.520 to make sure that, you know, we're able to get the resources that we need.

00:34:39.760 And so I think, like, the entire premise of what they're saying,

00:34:43.880 what the newspapers and what the liberals and what the government says

00:34:46.960 has just been completely falsified by our very existence.

00:34:50.520 Yeah, it's a 100% false narrative.

00:34:53.000 Okay, I want to talk about Cosman Georgia's scoop at True North,

00:34:55.660 but first I just remembered one other question that I wanted to ask you

00:34:57.960 while we're still kind of talking behind the scenes of what it's like to be a journalist.

00:35:01.140 There's a picture on your X page that's a picture of you, Tucker Carlson, Daniel Smith,

00:35:07.400 Conrad Black, and who's the other one?

00:35:10.680 Jordan B. Peterson.

00:35:12.120 And I can't imagine four bigger, plus yourself, five bigger stars

00:35:16.560 in the world of, like, Canadian conservatives.

00:35:18.560 So how did you get that picture?

00:35:20.200 Yeah, that's so funny.

00:35:22.080 Tucker was in Calgary on a speaking tour,

00:35:25.440 and I was lucky enough to be invited into this room that they were all in,

00:35:29.240 and we just all sort of got together for a quick photo.

00:35:33.300 And, I mean, it looks amazing.

00:35:35.340 It was a dream come true.

00:35:36.520 And Tucker is so funny, too.

00:35:38.340 He's such a friendly guy.

00:35:40.040 So is Jordan, Dr. Peterson.

00:35:42.140 He's a fantastic person to get to know and chat with.

00:35:46.560 You know, and Conrad Black as well.

00:35:48.600 He's a legend in the industry.

00:35:50.600 So being able to chat with him as well was pretty neat.

00:35:53.020 Yeah, my only problem whenever I'm lucky enough to be in the room with any of those people

00:35:57.800 is like, how do I even prioritize what I'm going to talk to them about?

00:36:00.400 Like, if I see Jordan Peterson, I have like 10 things that I want to ask them about.

00:36:03.940 And it's like, you know, you have like 10 seconds to say something to them.

00:36:07.240 So that's very cool.

00:36:08.240 Okay, let's get to Cosman's scoop because we were talking a little bit about foreign aid.

00:36:11.120 So Cosman and Georgia over at True North Wire broke a story.

00:36:14.100 exclusive liberal donors former candidate lead foreign aid organization that has received 180

00:36:21.140 million dollars since 2015. Isn't this the way that it always goes with liberals like not only

00:36:27.200 are they funding absolutely ridiculous wasteful programs but somehow they find a way to make 0.80

00:36:32.400 their friends rich in the process. How much money was it? 180 million dollars since 2015 and the

00:36:38.380 company includes former liberal donors, a CEO who once ran for a liberal nomination under Justin

00:36:47.240 Trudeau. And so this sort of cozy, cozy relationship that exists, I think something like 70% of this

00:36:52.720 organization's budget comes from Global Affairs Canada. It's called CUSO International. Great

00:36:59.780 digging, great research over there at True North by Kosman Georgia. Kosman's great. Every time I

00:37:04.900 see a new scoop it's coming from him he's always on top of it he always has he i don't know how

00:37:09.760 he does it i wish i i wish i could have like the the the research skills of that guy because he

00:37:15.860 no matter where it is in the world whether it's in canada or in europe if someone like mentions

00:37:21.320 justin trudeau in like some foreign parliament he's like published on it within like five minutes

00:37:26.300 of it happening it's amazing yeah he's got amazing research skills one of i think probably the most

00:37:30.920 red piece, I don't know if it still is, but

00:37:32.880 for a while, the most red piece we ever

00:37:35.020 had on our website was Cosman put together

00:37:37.200 a map of Canada, and

00:37:39.080 he had geotagged all the locations

00:37:41.120 where churches had been burnt down

00:37:42.820 in the aftermath of the

00:37:44.960 unmarked graves hoax that happened.

00:37:47.140 And this thing was referenced by

00:37:49.060 media companies all over the world. It was really

00:37:51.080 amazing, the initiative that he put together

00:37:53.220 because we saw that it was happening.

00:37:54.900 All these churches are getting burnt down, and I don't think

00:37:57.060 anyone had put it all together in one

00:37:59.040 location so you could see like it's actually like it's not just a few it's not just a handful

00:38:03.480 we're talking about i think it's over a hundred churches um yeah so honestly cosmon is as good

00:38:09.440 as it gets and again a good win for independent media that we have him on our side this is why

00:38:14.640 i know that this this is going to work out well juno because the counter signal you know the

00:38:19.980 the biggest story that we ever published like it was it was viewed so much um broke all the

00:38:26.580 records on our site and around the world was when we published that the 50th church had been burned.

00:38:32.280 Like once that happened, that was so shocking to an American audience that it just, you know,

00:38:38.100 it spread like wildfire, to forgive the pun. But it's tragic what has happened in this country.

00:38:44.240 You know, if it was any other religion, this would have been treated almost akin to a genocide, 0.94

00:38:49.980 what is going on with churches in this country. And I feel like it has slowed down a little bit,

00:38:55.620 but the legacy of that lie that there was mass graves in the ground in Kamloops they were they

00:39:04.340 were treating it like it was the holocaust that happened in this country which is a it's it cheapens

00:39:09.480 the holocaust and it's just a lie there there were no mass graves but and and the the word is

00:39:16.380 important their mass graves they were treating it like there was there was piles of bodies of

00:39:20.600 children buried which of course if that did happen that would be outrageous that would be insane and

00:39:25.560 And nobody, you know, if there was evidence of that happening, we should try to uncover that evidence and expose that injustice, that crime against humanity.

00:39:33.700 That evidence just doesn't exist.

00:39:35.360 And the mainstream media willfully lied and misled the public about that in a way that has damaged the reputation of our country, of the Catholic Church, to another extent, and has warped the image of, you know, an entire religion in this country.

00:39:55.400 and the history of our country among the eyes of the world.

00:39:58.540 Well, there's so many things I could say, but yeah,

00:40:00.220 the use of the word mass graves isn't intentional.

00:40:03.240 When you hear that, you think of the Soviet Union

00:40:06.340 or you think of the killing fields of Cambodia or something like that.

00:40:09.400 We're never talking about mass graves.

00:40:11.220 And the fact that they used that, I think you're right, that was deceptive.

00:40:13.780 It was repetitive.

00:40:14.660 It was, and it was demoralizing.

00:40:17.820 I think that that was the main thing.

00:40:19.000 It's so rich right now, Kian, to see Justin Trudeau and the Liberals

00:40:22.240 play this like Team Canada, like with the flag and take back the flag and everything.

00:40:26.620 It's like, I'm sorry, you've spent the last nine years, and specifically since 2021,

00:40:31.180 telling Canadians that they are racist, that their country was built on genocide,

00:40:36.300 that it is shameful to be Canadian, exaggerating things that happened in our past.

00:40:40.960 Look, no one's past is perfect.

00:40:42.040 And I think that Canada made a lot of mistakes with that program.

00:40:44.700 I'm not in favor of residential schools at all.

00:40:47.180 But the reality is they flamed a story, flamed a hoax narrative that Canada had committed genocide,

00:40:53.600 that, I'm sorry, but priests and nuns were out there murdering kids. 1.00

00:40:56.700 Like, it was never true. It was outrageous on the surface.

00:40:59.900 And the legacy media didn't challenge it.

00:41:02.140 Instead, they just promoted it and propagated it.

00:41:04.240 And it did take the independent press.

00:41:05.920 I know that there were some strong voices in the legacy media that came around,

00:41:09.280 like Terry Glavin, and he did great work on it.

00:41:11.360 But that was like a year or two after the fact.

00:41:13.520 True North, we were telling these facts and reporting this in real time.

00:41:17.840 And it was tough because nobody wanted to hear it.

00:41:20.340 And people were very upset that we would dare question the narrative.

00:41:24.280 And that's all we were doing at the time was just asking some simple questions like,

00:41:27.420 what do you mean ground-penetrating radar?

00:41:29.700 What does that mean? What does that entail?

00:41:31.200 When is this report going to be released? When can we see it?

00:41:33.900 Like, what have you found? Just kind of basic questions.

00:41:36.480 And poking some holes in the narrative that we saw.

00:41:38.900 And, you know, I think it's terrible what Justin Trudeau did to the country, what the media did.

00:41:44.780 Because, I mean, imagine, like, for any young Canadian growing up, you know, you look at patriotism rates,

00:41:50.440 the number of young Canadians that say that they would move to the United States, it's like half.

00:41:54.640 And it's like, well, do you really blame them?

00:41:56.120 They were raised at a time, like, telling, like, first of all, there's not the same economic opportunities.

00:42:01.160 But you also live in a country that tells them that there's something wrong with them, that their country is wrong,

00:42:05.700 that it was built off the back of something horrendous.

00:42:08.420 And same thing for First Nations children.

00:42:10.900 It's like, imagine being told that narrative and trying to live in that country,

00:42:14.680 being told that you're not ever really going to have a fair shake.

00:42:18.060 The country hates you.

00:42:19.100 They try to commit genocide against you and your people.

00:42:21.140 Like, it's just such a horrible thing that they did, and that is one thing.

00:42:24.560 I honestly think that's one of the worst things that Justin Trudeau did to this country.

00:42:27.180 A legacy of demoralizing and destroying a generation,

00:42:32.460 making it financially impossible to live,

00:42:35.740 making it almost a crime to love your country and support its history despite the issues that it had.

00:42:45.300 You know, you made a good point.

00:42:47.300 The residential school system was terrible.

00:42:49.660 You know, I'm the last person that would ever support the idea of a government coming into a family's home and taking kids.

00:42:56.980 You know, that's nuts.

00:42:59.560 That didn't really happen, though.

00:43:00.600 That's the thing.

00:43:01.420 That's why True North published a book called Grave Error.

00:43:04.020 Tom Flanagan, who's a renowned professor of political science there,

00:43:08.060 he basically makes the point that the program was never compulsory.

00:43:11.560 This idea that they were coming in and swooping and taking kids is greatly exaggerated,

00:43:15.980 and that the numbers, like, it was a voluntary program.

00:43:18.680 Most people actually wanted their kids to go because they wanted their children to have the opportunity to have a free education.

00:43:23.760 And they were top-notch education in many cases.

00:43:27.140 So, I mean, so many of the things that we say and hear about the residential school program are not true.

00:43:33.320 I think broadly speaking, I would say that it wasn't a good thing for the country.

00:43:39.040 I don't like the government intervening in most cases.

00:43:42.500 Yeah, I'm glad that education is under the provincial jurisdiction.

00:43:45.840 I wouldn't want a federal department of education.

00:43:48.520 Yeah, it would be a disaster nine times out of ten.

00:43:52.400 But yeah, that is Trudeau's legacy, is the legacy of demoralizing a generation,

00:43:56.220 making it financially impossible to live and work in the country.

00:44:00.060 You know, it's become almost a status symbol to have a home now.

00:44:04.480 That wasn't the case 10, 15 years ago.

00:44:08.400 Once you turned 25, you were sort of on your way to, you know,

00:44:12.320 and you had a job and you started a family, you were on your way,

00:44:16.280 you'd have a home.

00:44:18.460 And on top of that, you know, having kids at this point has become a status symbol.

00:44:21.760 It's impossible to afford children in Justin Trudeau's Canada.

00:44:25.360 And I think that's by design.

00:44:26.580 And Justin Trudeau doesn't really care if you're struggling to afford groceries,

00:44:31.520 you're not fighting back against the government.

00:44:33.620 That's it, plain and simple.

00:44:35.460 Well, I hope that having kids, I think having kids is one of the most important things that people can do.

00:44:41.380 It's really sad to me to see the plummeting birth rate, something that we don't talk about nearly enough.

00:44:46.020 It's really an alarming trend among young Canadians.

00:44:49.020 There's not having kids.

00:44:50.260 Millennials aren't having kids. 1.00

00:44:51.200 Genesies aren't having kids. 1.00

00:44:51.920 I think the replacement rate is supposed to be 2.1.

00:44:54.260 I think right now we're at like 1.3, which is just like terrifyingly low.

00:44:58.480 And I think you're right.

00:44:59.160 When people are demoralized, when they feel like they can't afford things, they're not going to take that next step in life.

00:45:05.420 I wanted to quickly just before we wrap it up, you know, the premiers are down in Washington, D.C. right now.

00:45:11.200 We, you know, we're hearing lots of different things come out of that event.

00:45:16.040 But one of the things that frustrates me is when you have like the federal minister of international trade saying

00:45:22.880 supply management is off the table like we're not willing to budge on this basically internal

00:45:28.480 protectionist program that we have that if you were american you'd say that's a legitimate

00:45:32.960 concern so we're saying we're not willing to even talk about supply management of dairy we would

00:45:38.760 rather have 25 percent tariffs across the board on everything than worry about upsetting this one

00:45:44.120 special interest group you made the point that um you know they were willing to sacrifice alberta

00:45:48.920 oil, right? But they're not willing to sacrifice

00:45:51.140 this arcane

00:45:53.040 outdated communist program that

00:45:54.900 protects a couple of hundred dairy farmers.

00:45:56.740 Literally the sacred cow of this country.

00:45:59.100 The oil lobby could learn

00:46:00.580 a few things from the dairy lobby. The dairy

00:46:02.840 lobby is great at what they do because they

00:46:04.800 have positioned themselves as

00:46:06.720 these supporters of

00:46:08.580 small family farms.

00:46:10.500 If we didn't have this communist

00:46:12.920 control over our

00:46:14.920 milk and butter system,

00:46:16.860 then family farms would cease to exist. It's like,

00:46:18.760 no, that's not true. If we let American dairy into this country, our farmers supposedly are

00:46:25.560 great. I think they are. I think that we have great farmers in this country and they will be

00:46:31.040 able to manage their own supply. They'll be able to manage a high quality product. They'll be able

00:46:37.420 to grow and compete. And who doesn't want American dairy products and more choice in their

00:46:44.600 supermarkets? Who wouldn't want European cheese in their supermarkets? But for some reason, we are

00:46:50.040 not allowed to allow that free market into our country. For what? To protect this massive lobby

00:46:56.920 that has a ton of money to influence politicians. You know, that's how I started my career, was

00:47:01.560 actually exposing the dairy lobby for their manipulative tactics that they used on the

00:47:06.620 Conservative Party and Andrew Scheer, when the Conservative Party was considering getting rid

00:47:10.360 of supply management, and, you know, they promised their membership, the dairy lobby,

00:47:16.880 that it didn't matter what people voted for, they were going to get their way, which I

00:47:22.520 think is sad.

00:47:24.380 But, you know, I think that the oil industry should take notes because, you know, the government

00:47:30.580 in Ottawa seemed completely willing to sacrifice the oil and gas industry just, you know, over

00:47:38.640 almost nothing.

00:47:39.860 But they won't budge on this when our entire economy is on the line.

00:47:43.700 It's embarrassing.

00:47:44.800 Well, especially given the reality that we live in,

00:47:48.040 like we have a cost-of-living crisis.

00:47:49.800 Canadians can't afford groceries at the same rate.

00:47:51.940 I think, like, what is it, 40% use a food bank, or 20%, sorry,

00:47:56.480 have used a food bank, millions and millions of Canadians.

00:47:58.720 It's like, how about we introduce a policy that might lower the prices,

00:48:02.020 add some competition in there?

00:48:03.200 I think you're right that Canadian dairy farmers do a great job

00:48:05.620 and it's a good quality product,

00:48:06.760 but couldn't we all benefit from some more competition?

00:48:09.000 We do live in a free market society, or at least we're supposed to.

00:48:11.340 They're treating our milk like OPEC treats oil.

00:48:13.960 Yeah.

00:48:14.560 Which is, you know, it's shameful.

00:48:17.140 Seeing milk go down the drain while food banks are running out of food.

00:48:24.660 People are lining up.

00:48:26.000 It's actually bread lines.

00:48:27.560 And we're dumping milk down the drain to protect an archaic system that should not exist

00:48:32.120 and gambling our entire economy over this one issue.

00:48:36.920 This is what Donald Trump wants.

00:48:38.080 He wants concessions on things that we should do even though the Americans, you know, whether the Americans want us to do it or not.

00:48:45.740 It'd be good for Canadians to open up the market and provide more milk to families so that single moms who have three kids and are struggling can put milk in their kid's cereal bowl. 0.74

00:48:55.800 You know, I looked at a jug of milk when I was going to the supermarket last week.

00:49:00.020 It was like eight bucks for four liters of milk, and a stick of butter was even more than that.

00:49:05.080 Like, it's outrageous.

00:49:06.460 It is. It is.

00:49:07.760 And, you know, again, this is kind of like a low-hanging fruit.

00:49:10.240 It shouldn't take an American putting pressure on us from a trade perspective

00:49:13.100 to do the right thing to help Canadians have a more affordable life.

00:49:16.680 I completely agree with you on that one.

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Juno News - February 13, 2025

The INSIDE SCOOP on my day in Ottawa and interview with Pierre Poilievre

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