Juno News - February 13, 2025


The INSIDE SCOOP on my day in Ottawa and interview with Pierre Poilievre

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How well do we know Mark Carney? Pierre Poilievre on Trump’s tariff threat, border security, and cutting immigration

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In this episode, Candice talks about the incredible interview she conducted with opposition leader candidate Pierre Polyvenc about immigration, crime, inflation, the economy, the election, and much more. She also announces the launch of a new media company, Juno News, in partnership with Kian Bextie.

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00:00:00 hi I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm show we have a great episode for you
00:00:11 today I'm so excited I have a bunch of things to announce as you may have seen on social media as
00:00:16 you may have seen in our emails I'm launching a new media company so many of you have followed
00:00:21 our journey all along I started true north nine years ago in my living room it has grown into an
00:00:26 incredible fact-based independent news company media company that really is
00:00:30 changing the media landscape well I am teaming up today with Kian Bextie who is
00:00:36 the founder of the counter signal a fantastic independent journalist from
00:00:40 Calgary Alberta I just absolutely love his fearless brand of journalism we're
00:00:44 teaming up today to announce Juno news so Juno news will be a hub and a
00:00:48 platform where you can find all of true north reporting and all the news plus
00:00:52 plus Kian Bextie's brand and his own journalism,
00:00:56 plus documentaries, podcasts, videos.
00:00:58 We have so much for you.
00:01:00 So head on over to junonews.com, subscribe.
00:01:03 And if you subscribe, you get exclusive access
00:01:05 to the interview that I conducted with Pierre Polyev.
00:01:09 I'm going to tell you all about the behind the scenes,
00:01:11 behind that interview.
00:01:13 I'm going to share with you exclusive clips.
00:01:15 And then at 7 p.m. tonight,
00:01:17 we are going to air the full interview for subscribers
00:01:20 over at junonews.com.
00:01:22 So make sure you go check that out. I really want you to see the interview. It was great.
00:01:26 I got to sit down with Pierre, asked him a wide range of issues and topics.
00:01:32 We discussed so many things from immigration to crime. We talked about inflation.
00:01:37 We talked about Trudeau. We talked about the election. We talked about a lot of things.
00:01:40 So you're really going to want to check that out.
00:01:42 So I want to tell you a little bit about the interview because it almost didn't happen.
00:01:46 I have been kind of talking behind the scenes with Pierre Polyev's team and the OLO, the Opposition Leader's Office, and we decided to confirm the interview.
00:01:56 We chose Wednesday. We decided that that was when it was going to happen.
00:02:01 And basically, we were about to fly out, and all of a sudden, anyone who's in Ontario right now knows that we are facing severe winter weather right now.
00:02:10 It was a very cold day in Ottawa, and there was sort of like a pending blizzard that was
00:02:15 supposed to roll through and completely shut down the airports and everything.
00:02:20 And so my husband and I were flying out in the morning to get to Ottawa for the interview,
00:02:24 didn't even know if the plane was going to take off, what was going to happen.
00:02:28 Fortunately, we got there, landed, got into a car, rushed downtown to the Conservative
00:02:34 Party's headquarters, and I got to go in there, made it just in time to sit down with
00:02:39 Pierre is such a nice guy very gracious gave us lots of time there were no
00:02:43 parameters restrictions around the interview about to ask any questions that
00:02:47 I want it was a lot of fun I really enjoyed my conversation with him he he
00:02:50 surprised me with some of his answers but it really just solid stuff and I
00:02:54 really want you to be able to watch that full interview so like I said 7 p.m.
00:02:58 tonight you have to subscribe though go to Juno news and subscribe I'll give you
00:03:02 a little teaser of what the interview looks like so here is one of my favorite
00:03:07 exchanges of the interview when we were talking about illegal immigration and what Mr. Polyev
00:03:12 would do to crack down on illegal immigration. One of the other things that's happening in the
00:03:18 states right now in the new administration is that President Trump has been serious about
00:03:22 deportations. And a couple of weeks ago, we had Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying that if he
00:03:28 were the Canadians, he'd be concerned that a lot of the bad people that are in the United States
00:03:32 right now might try to sneak up into Canada. This happened last time Trump was President,
00:03:36 Mr. Trump was president, where we had people crossing illegally through Roxham Road, thousands
00:03:41 and thousands and thousands. And it was disgraceful. I went there myself, Pierre, and I couldn't
00:03:45 believe it. You had CBSA officers acting like bellhops, lifting their suitcases, putting them
00:03:50 into buses, taking them to Toronto or Montreal, their choice. They got to choose where they would
00:03:55 go. So we were sort of facilitating illegal entry into our country. I believe Roxham Road has been
00:04:00 closed, but I'm sure that happens in other places. I'm wondering, what would you do to stop bad
00:04:06 people that are about to be deported from the United States from just walking across
00:04:09 into Canada?
00:04:11 Well, they closed Roxham Road 30 days after I issued an ultimatum to Justin Trudeau that
00:04:16 he had to close it, or that we would move a non-confidence. So he actually met my ultimatum
00:04:23 and closed it, which proved that what they had been saying before was all a lie. They
00:04:26 claimed they had no way of closing it. Well, of course they had a way of closing it. They
00:04:29 didn't want to. We're a nation with borders, and we have the ability to seal our borders.
00:04:36 against illegal crossers and to block people from coming in and those that get onto our 1.00
00:04:41 soil, what you need to do is just do a last in first out refugee review of their claim.
00:04:49 And this is how it works.
00:04:50 If you're the last person into the country, then you immediately have your claim heard,
00:04:56 which means that within a couple of weeks, if your claim is false, you're sent back.
00:05:02 What that does is it sends the signal to everyone who might come in the future that they're
00:05:10 going to be sent home all automatically.
00:05:12 The problem right now is that if someone gets in illegally, and even if they're not a real
00:05:17 refugee, they're not fleeing danger, they have seven or eight years of appeals, appeals,
00:05:23 appeals during which we're paying for hotels and lawyers and food.
00:05:27 And health care above and beyond what Canadians get.
00:05:29 above and beyond what Canadians get, so that then attracts more people to say,
00:05:33 oh, hey, if I get to Canada, even though I'm not a real refugee,
00:05:36 I can get into the country and I'll be bounced around in the system at someone else's expense forever.
00:05:41 If we solve that problem, the message would go out very quickly
00:05:45 that Canada is not a place you come to make a false or fraudulent claim.
00:05:50 And I believe you would see a very real reduction in the number of people who even tried to come.
00:05:55 I have a lot of sympathy for real refugees.
00:05:57 My wife is a refugee. This has been a wonderful refuge for people who genuinely have claims,
00:06:02 and that still will be the case when I'm prime minister.
00:06:05 But we can't take in fraudulent, fake claimants and pay their bills for seven years while they work the system.
00:06:11 So there was, and again, we're going to release the entire interview tonight at 7 p.m. on our website, JunoNews.com.
00:06:17 Head on over there, subscribe so you can make sure that you get access and you can watch that entire interview.
00:06:22 Okay, folks, let's get to the news today because there is quite a bit to get to today.
00:06:26 I want to talk about the premiers. So the Canadian premiers all went down to Washington, D.C. They're
00:06:33 all trying to negotiate, trying to figure out what is happening with the tariffs, trying to make some
00:06:38 inroads with the Trump administration. Kind of a little too little too late, guys, but at least
00:06:43 they're finally there doing what Danielle Smith did from day one, which is just have some face 0.99
00:06:47 time, have some one-on-one time, get to know people, try to figure out what is exactly going
00:06:52 on behind these threads. How can we negotiate a better deal? How can we secure a better life for
00:06:57 everybody in North America? We all want the same stuff here. We all want secure borders. We all
00:07:02 want safe streets. We all want to get drugs off our streets. We don't want criminals. We don't
00:07:06 want terrorists. We don't want illegal immigrants. We all agree and we all want a strong economy. 1.00
00:07:11 We want mutually beneficial things. So let's go down and talk about it. This is something that
00:07:17 came out of it that I just think is so embarrassing. Okay, so first you had Doug Ford, Ontario Premier.
00:07:21 He's in the middle of the election. He's striking a good tone. A lot of people I talk to around
00:07:25 Ontario, they might not like Doug Ford that much. They might not like the conservative government
00:07:29 that much, but they like the way that he's approaching the situation, his tone and his
00:07:33 ideas. And so graciously, you know, he was asked, who in the White House did you meet with? Who
00:07:38 were you meeting with? And he politely said, you know, I'm not at liberty to say, but we had some
00:07:42 productive meetings. And I think that's the way to go. You don't go out and name people's names
00:07:47 and expose what the conversations were like
00:07:51 when you're in the middle of a negotiation.
00:07:53 So Doug Ford kind of playing it smart.
00:07:56 And then on the other hand,
00:07:57 you have the BC Premier, David Eby,
00:08:01 who came right out and just said everything.
00:08:04 So here we have Global News reporting
00:08:06 that BC Premier David Eby says
00:08:09 the premiers had a frank conversation
00:08:10 with the Trump administration officials
00:08:12 about the 51st state comment
00:08:14 and stressed it's a non-starter.
00:08:16 Evie says that the two representatives that they met with, and then he names them, Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair and Director of Presidential Personnel Sergio Gore, agreed to share a few items with Trump.
00:08:28 One, the willingness to engage, two, work on key areas of agreement, and three, that Canada would never be the 51st state.
00:08:36 Well, I think David Evie was speaking out of terms because James Blair himself, the person who he met with, commented and replied to this on X.
00:08:47 He said it was pleasant to meet with the premiers.
00:08:50 To be clear, we never agreed that Canada would not be the 51st state.
00:08:55 We only agreed to share Premier Eby's comments.
00:08:59 Further, we said the best way to understand President Trump's position is to take what he says at face value.
00:09:07 Unbelievable, folks.
00:09:08 Unbelievable.
00:09:09 So because David Eby was out there speaking out of turn, because he volunteered the information
00:09:14 to the media that the 51st date comment is off the table, well, that obviously annoyed
00:09:19 the Trump administration.
00:09:20 That obviously annoyed Mr. Blair.
00:09:22 So what did he do?
00:09:24 He doubled down.
00:09:25 Because this is what we're doing.
00:09:26 We're in the middle of a negotiation.
00:09:27 You have the Canadians speaking out of turn, saying that they agreed to something that
00:09:31 the Americans said, no, no, no, that's one of our main negotiating sticks.
00:09:35 This is a stalking horse, folks. This is what the Americans are threatening Canada with so that they 0.85
00:09:40 can get a better trade deal. And by Canada saying, no, no, no, this is off the table. It's not going
00:09:45 to happen. It's just making the Americans double down. This is just bad negotiation tactics. Again,
00:09:50 everybody should go out and read the art of the deal. Okay. Donald Trump has let us know from,
00:09:55 for years, he published this book like 30 years ago. We know how he negotiates a deal. We know
00:10:01 his strategy this is just one of his tactics and now that he's president he's using it and so is
00:10:05 his administration so to have the bbc premier come out and do this it was a gaffe it was a faux pas
00:10:11 it was embarrassing it doesn't help the negotiation again i think that premier ford is taking the right
00:10:17 approach okay well we got some further clarity we had another uh speech so justin trudeau is
00:10:23 gallivanting around europe you know guys this is so frustrating so frustrating folks we have a crisis
00:10:30 in Canada, right? We are facing impending doom with a tariff threat from the U.S. administration,
00:10:36 okay? And what is our Prime Minister doing? Gallivanting across Europe, going from city to
00:10:41 city, engaging in the kind of international development stuff that he prefers, frankly,
00:10:46 than rolling up his sleeves and doing the hard work. We don't have Parliament, we don't have
00:10:49 government in session. And then here we have Prime Minister Justin Trude trying to stir the pot,
00:10:54 trying to gain favour for his Liberal Party, get more people, you know, the more people are afraid
00:10:59 of the Americans, the more, the better that the liberals are doing in the polls. So here's Trudeau
00:11:04 speaking at a press conference in Brussels, Belgium. Justin Trudeau told reporters, again,
00:11:09 he said this in the past, he says, there's not a snowball's hell in chance that Canada will ever be
00:11:13 the 51st state. And he added at the same time, we have to take seriously what President Trump says.
00:11:20 Let's play that clip. There's not a snowball's chance in hell that Canada will ever be the 51st
00:11:26 state. At the same time, from having worked with President Trump for close over eight years now,
00:11:35 I can tell you that we have to take seriously what he says and make sure we're
00:11:42 responding appropriately.
00:11:45 After initially not taking the comments by Trump very seriously, remember that Trudeau
00:11:51 sort of laughed it off at the beginning, which I think is actually the right approach. I talked
00:11:54 to Preston Manning and he agreed. He thinks that this was all initially meant as a joke to kind of
00:12:01 ruse Trudeau and tease Trudeau and that it's really the Laurentians and the media that are
00:12:06 blowing things out of proportion, making it seem like it's a real threat that Canada is about to
00:12:10 get annexed any minute. While Stephen Harper, the former Conservative Prime Minister, jumped in and
00:12:16 shared serious concern. So Stephen Harper was speaking on Tuesday in Ottawa at a launch party
00:12:23 for his book, Flags of Canada. And there he said that U.S. President Donald Trump's annexation
00:12:29 threats should be met with unwavering determination to preserve this country's independence at any
00:12:35 cost. He said that Canada should accept any level of damage to fight back against Donald Trump. So
00:12:42 it seems like former Prime Minister Stephen Harper really takes this threat literally. And he does
00:12:49 think that Trump is trying to take over Canada, that it is a serious, literal threat that we
00:12:55 should be willing to accept any level of damage. I don't agree with that, folks. I think that,
00:12:59 again, this is all part of the negotiation. And look at what Danielle Smith had to say
00:13:04 in Washington, D.C. She says that she thinks that they're making inroads and that things
00:13:09 are going well. So the people who are on the ground talking to American officials and Republican
00:13:14 insiders in Washington, someone like Danielle Smith, says, like, let's not lose our minds over
00:13:19 this. Let's keep calm and negotiate a deal. Here is what Danielle Smith had to say.
00:13:24 I think diplomacy is working. I think that the fact that we got a 30-day reprieve was because
00:13:30 we agreed to work on the cross-border problem of fentanyl. I was pleased to see the federal
00:13:34 government announced a fentanyl czar, and my administration has already been in touch with
00:13:39 him to talk about how in Alberta we can lend to the success of those efforts. So what I would say
00:13:44 is what I've seen from this president is that he is prepared to make a deal.
00:13:49 And in other news, Canada has finally appointed a fentanyl czar. So the Trudeau government on
00:13:54 Tuesday appointed Kevin Brousseau, his national security advisor, has now become Canada's first
00:14:02 fentanyl czar. Brousseau is a former senior officer in the RCMP, rising up the ranks to
00:14:06 become Manitoba's Deputy Commissioner in 2016. He left policing in 2019 to become a senior public
00:14:13 servant, serving as the Assistant Deputy to Transport Canada and then Associate Deputy for
00:14:19 the Department of Fisheries. Speaking to reporters in Washington, D.C., Finance and Intergovernment
00:14:24 Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc said that he had spoken to Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary,
00:14:30 Howard Lutnick, about Canada's new fentanyl czar, adding that he feels confident that they very
00:14:35 much have their attention. Here is this clip from Washington. Howard Lutnick was there. The
00:14:42 National Economic Advisor to President Trump was also there. We started the conversation by
00:14:49 discussing our shared priorities around border security and the fight against fentanyl. We took
00:14:55 stock of the good work that has been done around illegal migration. We spoke about the appointment
00:15:01 of our fentanyl czar who will be in Washington in a few days. I'm confident that we very much
00:15:09 have their attention. They made that clear to us that Canada is very much top of mind for
00:15:16 the work that Mr. Lutnick's doing. That was encouraging. Okay, moving on. So yesterday on
00:15:21 the show, I had Cosme Zherja, a senior reporter and journalist for True North on the show. We
00:15:25 spent the entire episode talking about Mark Carney and how he has not really been vetted.
00:15:30 We don't really know much about him. And yet he's basically been selected to become Canada's
00:15:36 next prime minister. He'll probably be the prime minister sometime in early March after the liberal
00:15:41 leadership vote. Well, I want to show this clip of Mark Carney that's making the rounds. He was
00:15:47 in Kelowna, British Columbia. And here's what he tells the crowd. He says that all of the federal
00:15:53 powers of the federal government, including the Emergencies Act, should be used against the
00:16:00 Americans in this trade war. So first of all, the liberals are playing this up as a crisis,
00:16:04 as an existential threat to Canada, because it's better for their electoral future if Canadians 1.00
00:16:08 are afraid and worried and fearful and divided. This is the liberal playbook. They've used it
00:16:13 over and over again. And Mark Carney, again, just lets the cat right out of the bag and says,
00:16:18 hey, remember when we used those Emergencies Act illegally during the COVID Freedom Convoy
00:16:22 to crack down on peaceful protesters? Well, we're going to do that again. We will use the
00:16:28 emergency power once again it's just one crisis one emergency after the next for these people
00:16:34 and again Carney showing us a different side of him that you probably won't see in the legacy
00:16:39 media here is that clip and something that my government is going to do is to use all of the
00:16:44 powers of the federal government including the emergency powers of the federal government to
00:16:49 accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy and take on the americans
00:16:57 now true north and juno news may be some of the only outlets in the country delivering the news
00:17:03 telling you the truth telling you the facts about someone like mark carney who is again very unvetted
00:17:08 the media is not looking at him critically they are not showing canadians the full picture they're
00:17:13 just giving him this sort of glossy rosy honeymoon period like look at this fresh new face he's a
00:17:19 smart central banker who's going to come save canada from those mean nasty americans well you
00:17:24 deserve to see both sides. Canadians deserve to see both sides because otherwise Canadians aren't
00:17:29 going to know who this man really is. And again, I'm worried that Canadians will make a colossal 1.00
00:17:34 mistake in the next election if they don't learn more. And so again, we've seen this in the polls.
00:17:39 I had Hamish Marshall, great pollster on the show earlier this week to talk about the fact that now
00:17:44 that Trudeau is out of the picture and now that it looks like Mark Carney will be the person
00:17:48 running, the election is actually going to be a lot tighter than we initially thought. It's not
00:17:52 going to be a shoe-in for Pierre Poliev and the Conservatives. It's not going to be a cakewalk
00:17:57 and an easy majority. So the latest polls to come out, this was in the National Post, a new Leger 0.85
00:18:02 poll suggests that a Mark Carney-led Liberal Party could boost Liberal support by six points,
00:18:08 up to 37% tying the Tories, tying the Conservatives. Unbelievable. Unbelievable if Canadians let the
00:18:16 Liberals get away with what they've done to the country over the last nine years. I can't say this
00:18:21 enough folks it is so important that we have independent media we have an independent news
00:18:26 source to hold people accountable including the legacy media hold them accountable because they
00:18:31 are not telling you the full story they're not telling Canadians the truth please I encourage 0.98
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00:19:01 to junonews.com and please subscribe. Okay, moving on. So this Saturday is Flag Day. Yes,
00:19:08 we have a Flag Day in Canada. It is the day where you're supposed to show your pride in the Canadian
00:19:13 flag honor the anniversary of the new flag of canada remember we used to have the red ensign
00:19:18 it was redone to show that we were more independent from the united kingdom we got
00:19:22 the maple leaf that has been our flag for some 60 years now and this weekend is the day that
00:19:27 you're supposed to remember that fly the flag show your patriotism so it's interesting because we
00:19:31 have seen a sort of resurgence of patriotism in canada a love of country particularly on the
00:19:38 political left on the liberal side of the aisle. Recall that during the Freedom Convoy, during the
00:19:43 depth of the COVID lockdowns, the Freedom Convoy came out and one of the rallying points that they
00:19:48 had was a Canadian flag. They were fighting for their Canadian values that they felt had been
00:19:53 taken away from the Trudeau government, their Canadian freedoms that are enshrined in our
00:19:57 charter. They were using the flag as a rallying point to show, hey, look, we're all Canadian. We
00:20:02 love this country and we want our country back, while the left and the liberals hated that. They
00:20:06 They hated this idea that this sort of blue collar group of rowdy Canadians were saying enough of the lockdowns and that they were using the flag to the point where the left really separated themselves and denounced the flag.
00:20:18 And they decided that the Canadian flag was a symbol of hate, was a symbol of far right, whatever they called us. 0.97
00:20:25 It was total nonsense and it was ridiculous. 0.89
00:20:27 You know, we're talking about years and years of the left demonizing Canadians, telling us that we're racist, telling us that our country is genocidal and that we were built off of oppression and really saying that they wanted nothing to do with Canada. 0.94
00:20:40 I was happy for the political right to take over the flag and have that be our symbol because we still love our country.
00:20:46 We still believe in our country.
00:20:48 Well, now that we're in this trade war with the Americans and war of words between the Trump
00:20:52 administration, more Canadians on the political left and the liberals are willing to use the flag
00:20:58 and trying to take the flag back. Hey, I'll take it. I think that we should all rally around the
00:21:02 flag, unite around the flag. And so if you saw, I did an interview with Preston Manning, the
00:21:07 former leader of the Reform Party in Canada, and he had this message for Canadians. He said
00:21:12 that the best way to root out anti-Canadianism is to fly the flag. Here is what that looked like
00:21:19 when he told me on my show last week. This is anti-Canadianism. Try and root out the anti-Canadianism
00:21:24 from our institutions. And one simple practical suggestion I've had to friends is to fly the flag.
00:21:33 You know, when you go to the U.S. and go through the Midwestern towns or even in New England,
00:21:40 But every eight or nine house has one of these American flags on it.
00:21:48 Americans, for all their faults that we continually point out, are basically proud of their own country.
00:21:54 And one of the ways they show it is to fly the flag.
00:21:56 Well, why don't we fly the flag?
00:21:58 Why don't we fly the flag?
00:21:59 And so, hey, I think that a lot of people may have seen our interview and agreed with us because Pierre Paulyev, a couple of days later, posted this clip on X.
00:22:06 similarly encouraging Canadians to go out there, purchase a flag for Flag Day,
00:22:12 celebrate the Maple Leaf, celebrate Canada. Here is what that looked like.
00:22:15 This Saturday is in fact Flag Day. So I'm encouraging everyone, regardless of your 0.70
00:22:21 political allegiance, to go out, get yourself a flag, big or small, put it on a flagpole in front
00:22:27 of your home or through your window or in any other way that you can show our colors. We're
00:22:34 very proud of this country. We'll never be the 51st state. We will always be a strong,
00:22:40 self-reliant, sovereign country. So let's show that message by raising the flag.
00:22:56 And just because some liberals and some left-wingers on social media are now trying to take the flag
00:23:01 back doesn't mean that the actual Liberal Party of Canada has because they haven't officially
00:23:05 celebrated or recognized Flag Day since 2020. Remember that Justin Trudeau lowered the flag
00:23:12 to half staff after that fake news hoax of the unmarked grave story came out. He left the flag
00:23:17 down at half mass for months and months. It was a total disgrace. It was so disgraceful for our
00:23:23 country to be humiliated that way with a prime minister who was basically saying that we should
00:23:27 have shame. We should feel shame in our country. We shouldn't fly the flag. We shouldn't celebrate
00:23:31 being Canadians. That is the wrong approach. I hope the Liberals will reverse that and once again 1.00
00:23:36 recognize something like Flag Day, but I don't think it's going to happen this year. We have
00:23:40 seen some Liberal boosters online, like I said, have a little change in tune, change of tone when
00:23:46 it came to the flag. So I'm going to point one of my favorite examples of hypocritical Liberals out. 0.97
00:23:52 So this is an individual named Mike Gibbs. He is a big Liberal supporter on X, and he wrote this 0.92
00:23:56 back in 2022. Okay. So this was three years ago. He says on this Canada day, I can't help but think
00:24:03 perhaps we need a new flag or a refresh flag because Canada and arguably our flag was tarnished
00:24:10 long before the convoy with centuries of blood and genocidal murder of indigenous nations.
00:24:16 We need a reset. We need a new symbol. So that was on July 1st, 2022. Well, the same user,
00:24:22 Mike Gibbs, now on February 10th, 2025, had this to say, nothing better than a brand new Canadian
00:24:29 flag. We just got it from Canadian Tire. F Trump, F mega. And then he also wrote, you'd think it was
00:24:36 Canada Day. I've never seen this many flags up in Ajax before. The resistance to Trump and Canada
00:24:42 is growing. All right, pal. You can see his Twitter bio there, Mike Gibbs with the rainbow flag and
00:24:50 the Ukraine flag, him, he, him pronouns. Thanks, bud. Thanks, bud. So this guy is saying that
00:24:56 there's a resurgence in the Canada flag after just three years ago, telling us that it was
00:25:00 genocidal. Yeah, I think we're tired of that. I think we see through you and your noise. So rich,
00:25:06 so much irony in the fact that it's now liberals telling us to wrap ourselves in the flag when for
00:25:10 years they have been the ones demonizing the flag. Okay. I want to show you earlier, I sat
00:25:16 down with Kian Bexie. Like I said, we were in Ottawa for the release of the new announcement
00:25:21 of Juno News. So excited to bring this to you. We filmed a promo video outside and then we went back
00:25:27 inside and recorded this interview. So part of what we want to offer to subscribers of Juno News
00:25:32 is sort of an inside behind the scenes look at journalism. What is it like to be an independent
00:25:37 journalist? What is it like to go around the country and tell these stories to Canadians?
00:25:41 It was great to have this sort of fireside chat with Kian, who is my co-founder at Juno News.
00:25:46 We hope to bring you conversations like this.
00:25:49 We're going to offer it to subscribers every month.
00:25:52 You're going to get a sit down with Kian and I where we talk about what we're working on,
00:25:55 what we're doing, give you a little behind the scenes of what it's like to be an independent journalist in Canada.
00:25:59 So here is what that interview looked like.
00:26:04 Hi, everyone. I'm very pleased to be joined with my co-founder, Kian Bexty.
00:26:08 We have come together to start a new media company, as you probably know, called Juno News.
00:26:13 And I'm very pleased.
00:26:14 We were actually just outside filming, and it is freezing cold in Ottawa.
00:26:17 So if our noses are a little red and our toes are a little cold, it's because we were outside for like half an hour.
00:26:22 It kind of brought back memories of the Freedom Convoy, didn't it?
00:26:25 Yeah, frigid cold, the cold that you only get in Ottawa when you're outside trying to capture the moment,
00:26:31 and the weather just doesn't cooperate.
00:26:34 Well, we were talking about it, because I lived in Edmonton for four years.
00:26:36 I went to the University of Alberta, and I actually found that it was colder when I lived in Ottawa
00:26:40 because in Edmonton, everyone knows that you're going to drive everywhere, right?
00:26:43 So you're never really outside for too long.
00:26:45 But Ottawa is very much a walking city, so you end up outside a lot, walking from building to building,
00:26:49 and it's like a combination of the wind and just the wet cold.
00:26:53 It's so cold.
00:26:54 It gets you down to your bones.
00:26:55 I can't stand it coming from Calgary.
00:26:57 But, yeah, it's exciting about Juneau.
00:26:59 I really think that this is going to change the media landscape in the country.
00:27:03 Well, so why don't we, I mean, the point of this conversation today is
00:27:06 I want to do a bit more of a fireside chat.
00:27:08 We're going to talk about the news, but I also want to sort of unveil the curtains a little
00:27:12 and let the audience know a little bit, like, what it's like to be an independent journalist in Canada,
00:27:16 like, why we're doing what we're doing.
00:27:19 And one of the things I wanted to ask you, Kian, like, we talked about it a little bit
00:27:22 when you came on my show before, but that footage of you with Justin Trudeau on the beach in Tofino.
00:27:27 Like, it's so incredible to me that you were able to do that
00:27:30 And no legacy media journalist was.
00:27:32 People that had so many more resources, they know where Justin Trudeau is.
00:27:37 They know what he's doing.
00:27:38 But they didn't bother to go and show up there.
00:27:42 You've had other opportunities where you've caught up with Trudeau at various places in the country.
00:27:45 I think I saw another video of you kind of chasing him out of a meeting somewhere on the East Coast.
00:27:50 Yeah, in New Brunswick.
00:27:51 So how do you do it?
00:27:52 How do you find him?
00:27:53 How do you stake out?
00:27:54 Tell us what goes into something like that.
00:27:56 A lot of it comes down to, I mean, our viewers at The Counter Signal, they're really well-connected people.
00:28:03 And we get tips every day.
00:28:05 Oh, I saw the Prime Minister here. Oh, I saw Greta Thunberg here.
00:28:08 Oh, you know, all of these examples of citizen journalism that they're doing,
00:28:13 that when they send it to us, we're able to take action.
00:28:16 Most people don't have the resources to fly across the country and go find Trudeau
00:28:19 when he's coming out of an oyster shop.
00:28:21 You know, we do, though, luckily, and we have the questions to pepper him with when he comes out.
00:28:26 So it's a bit of a team effort.
00:28:28 It's a mutual relationship with our viewers who constantly, you know, they follow his plane.
00:28:34 They track it online and give us live updates of what's going on.
00:28:38 And, of course, our team at the Counter Signal as well.
00:28:41 I just couldn't do it without them as well.
00:28:42 They are constantly on the ball, finding new events, new locations where we're able to track them down and ask questions.
00:28:50 And it's not just Trudeau that we're interested in.
00:28:52 It's every single politician in this country, whether they're conservative, whether they're
00:28:58 United Conservative in Alberta, or whether they're a liberal in Ottawa.
00:29:03 We want to hold the people in power accountable because our viewers deserve nothing less.
00:29:08 I feel that way, too.
00:29:09 So for me, I started in journalism as an opinion writer.
00:29:12 I wrote in the Toronto Sun, I wrote an opinion column.
00:29:15 And it started out by me writing my opinion about the immigration system.
00:29:18 I was really opposed to what Justin Trudeau was doing in 2016 when he first got elected.
00:29:22 I thought that the Syrian refugee pledge was dangerous, just given the volatile population over there 1.00
00:29:27 and the research I was doing into how they were fast-tracking it so people weren't being vetted.
00:29:32 They were just rushing people over. It was a total mess.
00:29:35 And the more that I wrote about immigration from an opinion perspective, I started getting so many tips.
00:29:40 My inbox would just fill up with people inside the government, people who were working on these very programs
00:29:45 who kind of, like, I was onto something, or MPs, people.
00:29:48 I started getting so many tips, even from immigrants themselves.
00:29:52 Like, I remember once I broke a story about how people who were not citizens
00:29:56 were being sent Elections Canada ballots.
00:29:59 And it was literally sent to me by someone who was not a citizen,
00:30:01 who was like, hey, they're sending me this ballot,
00:30:04 and, like, I'm not even supposed to vote in your country.
00:30:06 So it is the amazing thing in journalism that, like, the more you do,
00:30:10 the more it comes to you.
00:30:12 Yeah, it's definitely a positive feedback loop.
00:30:13 Yeah, and so much of it comes from the citizen journals.
00:30:18 One of my favorite recent examples was when we had Elon Musk down there doing Doge in the U.S.,
00:30:25 and they were uncovering all of the crazy, crazy programs that were happening at USAID or USAID.
00:30:31 And then all of a sudden, the sleuths went in and did the same thing to the Canadian equivalent.
00:30:36 And there was a whole thing about whether the website was down, whether they were trying to hide it, whatever happened there.
00:30:41 But regardless of that, it was like all of a sudden there were dozens, if not hundreds, of really amazing researchers finding the most ridiculous examples of these government programs and putting them out there.
00:30:54 So, you know, the media is stacked against sort of free-thinking, free-speaking people in this country because the Trudeau government funds the legacy media, like they pay for journalism.
00:31:04 But I think that there's just such a groundswell of independent voices, independent media.
00:31:09 Yeah, that's why I'm so excited to be in this space,
00:31:11 like to launch Juno News, to have this platform.
00:31:14 I think it's like we're at the right place at the right time
00:31:16 because hopefully there'll be a change of government.
00:31:18 I really hope Pierre Polyev follows through and defunds the CBC immediately,
00:31:23 gets rid of all these other subsidies and programs to journalists
00:31:26 because there'll be a vacuum.
00:31:28 I imagine that a lot of those companies will disappear
00:31:30 and more Canadians will come to trusted, independent voices.
00:31:35 So that's why I'm excited to be launching this.
00:31:37 How do you feel?
00:31:38 What's terrible about the CBC, aside from their just blatant partisanship, is that they're losing ad money, which is like the number one indicator of a failing news site.
00:31:49 Ads are how companies should be run, news companies should be run.
00:31:53 If you're not getting views on the site, then what's the point of the news company existing in the first place?
00:32:00 And the CBC is hemorrhaging ad revenue.
00:32:02 They're supported by our tax dollars, and we're supposed to hope that enough people are viewing it that they're sort of able to sustain themselves, but that just hasn't been the case.
00:32:11 It hasn't been the case with most mainstream media legacy outlets, and that's why they rely on the journalism subsidy.
00:32:17 On top of all of the ad contracts that they have with the government of Canada and every other provincial government in the country,
00:32:24 which is reasonable for governments to advertise on these platforms, because I was talking to someone about this yesterday.
00:32:31 Anyway, on the Counter Signal, we have ads with the Alberta government, and the people that view our news, some of them are, like, morally opposed to viewing anything in the mainstream media, and especially the CBC.
00:32:46 But they still have a right to view messaging that is important from the government, whether it's about budget plans or important, like, announcements that they're making.
00:32:57 And the federal government does the same thing with legacy media outlets
00:33:01 and even some, like, smaller media outlets.
00:33:03 I don't think they pick and choose favorites there.
00:33:05 And I think that that's fine.
00:33:06 But there's a difference between that and blatantly subsidizing a media company
00:33:11 because it's a media company.
00:33:13 Well, to the point about ads, it's one of those funny things.
00:33:15 It's like if the government wants to get to your readers, that's the way to do it.
00:33:19 And if you say no to those government ads, they're just going to turn and try to find,
00:33:22 they basically give the money to your competitors.
00:33:24 I don't really have a problem with that.
00:33:25 But the thing that drives me just absolutely crazy is, you know, the whole premise behind the media bailouts is that the media companies said that there's no business case in Canada, that you cannot make money and run a business and do journalism because Canadians aren't willing to pay for it.
00:33:40 Well, part of the reason they're not willing to pay for it is because the CBC gives it away for free, right?
00:33:44 The CBC doesn't have a paywall.
00:33:45 They don't require subscriptions.
00:33:47 So they're doing all of this journalism, giving it away for free.
00:33:50 And then they say to their competitors, like, you know, you have to monetize by creating subscriptions and paywalls, but you're competing on an uneven playing field because the CBC has them.
00:33:59 But then even for the large newspapers like the Toronto Stars and the Post Media, you know, they say that they need the government bailouts just to exist, and they wouldn't exist without it.
00:34:09 But I think that the independent media has, again, proven that the claim that they're making is false.
00:34:14 It's not true.
00:34:15 Canadians are willing to pay for journalism.
00:34:16 They're willing to pay for news.
00:34:18 We're living proof of that, right?
00:34:19 Like, look at the businesses that we both built.
00:34:21 Look at the Rebel.
00:34:23 Like, there's so many Canadians that are willing to pay for this.
00:34:25 And we all have, like, successful, thriving businesses
00:34:28 because Canadians are so passionate about paying for the news
00:34:31 that they're willing to sometimes not even pay for the subscription,
00:34:33 but they want to donate and give us an extra $200
00:34:35 to make sure that, you know, we're able to get the resources that we need.
00:34:39 And so I think, like, the entire premise of what they're saying,
00:34:43 what the newspapers and what the liberals and what the government says
00:34:46 has just been completely falsified by our very existence.
00:34:50 Yeah, it's a 100% false narrative.
00:34:53 Okay, I want to talk about Cosman Georgia's scoop at True North,
00:34:55 but first I just remembered one other question that I wanted to ask you
00:34:57 while we're still kind of talking behind the scenes of what it's like to be a journalist.
00:35:01 There's a picture on your X page that's a picture of you, Tucker Carlson, Daniel Smith,
00:35:07 Conrad Black, and who's the other one?
00:35:10 Jordan B. Peterson.
00:35:12 And I can't imagine four bigger, plus yourself, five bigger stars
00:35:16 in the world of, like, Canadian conservatives.
00:35:18 So how did you get that picture?
00:35:20 Yeah, that's so funny.
00:35:22 Tucker was in Calgary on a speaking tour,
00:35:25 and I was lucky enough to be invited into this room that they were all in,
00:35:29 and we just all sort of got together for a quick photo.
00:35:33 And, I mean, it looks amazing.
00:35:35 It was a dream come true.
00:35:36 And Tucker is so funny, too.
00:35:38 He's such a friendly guy.
00:35:40 So is Jordan, Dr. Peterson.
00:35:42 He's a fantastic person to get to know and chat with.
00:35:46 You know, and Conrad Black as well.
00:35:48 He's a legend in the industry.
00:35:50 So being able to chat with him as well was pretty neat.
00:35:53 Yeah, my only problem whenever I'm lucky enough to be in the room with any of those people
00:35:57 is like, how do I even prioritize what I'm going to talk to them about?
00:36:00 Like, if I see Jordan Peterson, I have like 10 things that I want to ask them about.
00:36:03 And it's like, you know, you have like 10 seconds to say something to them.
00:36:07 So that's very cool.
00:36:08 Okay, let's get to Cosman's scoop because we were talking a little bit about foreign aid.
00:36:11 So Cosman and Georgia over at True North Wire broke a story.
00:36:14 exclusive liberal donors former candidate lead foreign aid organization that has received 180
00:36:21 million dollars since 2015. Isn't this the way that it always goes with liberals like not only
00:36:27 are they funding absolutely ridiculous wasteful programs but somehow they find a way to make 0.80
00:36:32 their friends rich in the process. How much money was it? 180 million dollars since 2015 and the
00:36:38 company includes former liberal donors, a CEO who once ran for a liberal nomination under Justin
00:36:47 Trudeau. And so this sort of cozy, cozy relationship that exists, I think something like 70% of this
00:36:52 organization's budget comes from Global Affairs Canada. It's called CUSO International. Great
00:36:59 digging, great research over there at True North by Kosman Georgia. Kosman's great. Every time I
00:37:04 see a new scoop it's coming from him he's always on top of it he always has he i don't know how
00:37:09 he does it i wish i i wish i could have like the the the research skills of that guy because he
00:37:15 no matter where it is in the world whether it's in canada or in europe if someone like mentions
00:37:21 justin trudeau in like some foreign parliament he's like published on it within like five minutes
00:37:26 of it happening it's amazing yeah he's got amazing research skills one of i think probably the most
00:37:30 red piece, I don't know if it still is, but
00:37:32 for a while, the most red piece we ever
00:37:35 had on our website was Cosman put together
00:37:37 a map of Canada, and
00:37:39 he had geotagged all the locations
00:37:41 where churches had been burnt down
00:37:42 in the aftermath of the
00:37:44 unmarked graves hoax that happened.
00:37:47 And this thing was referenced by
00:37:49 media companies all over the world. It was really
00:37:51 amazing, the initiative that he put together
00:37:53 because we saw that it was happening.
00:37:54 All these churches are getting burnt down, and I don't think
00:37:57 anyone had put it all together in one
00:37:59 location so you could see like it's actually like it's not just a few it's not just a handful
00:38:03 we're talking about i think it's over a hundred churches um yeah so honestly cosmon is as good
00:38:09 as it gets and again a good win for independent media that we have him on our side this is why
00:38:14 i know that this this is going to work out well juno because the counter signal you know the
00:38:19 the biggest story that we ever published like it was it was viewed so much um broke all the
00:38:26 records on our site and around the world was when we published that the 50th church had been burned.
00:38:32 Like once that happened, that was so shocking to an American audience that it just, you know,
00:38:38 it spread like wildfire, to forgive the pun. But it's tragic what has happened in this country.
00:38:44 You know, if it was any other religion, this would have been treated almost akin to a genocide, 0.94
00:38:49 what is going on with churches in this country. And I feel like it has slowed down a little bit,
00:38:55 but the legacy of that lie that there was mass graves in the ground in Kamloops they were they
00:39:04 were treating it like it was the holocaust that happened in this country which is a it's it cheapens
00:39:09 the holocaust and it's just a lie there there were no mass graves but and and the the word is
00:39:16 important their mass graves they were treating it like there was there was piles of bodies of
00:39:20 children buried which of course if that did happen that would be outrageous that would be insane and
00:39:25 And nobody, you know, if there was evidence of that happening, we should try to uncover that evidence and expose that injustice, that crime against humanity.
00:39:33 That evidence just doesn't exist.
00:39:35 And the mainstream media willfully lied and misled the public about that in a way that has damaged the reputation of our country, of the Catholic Church, to another extent, and has warped the image of, you know, an entire religion in this country.
00:39:55 and the history of our country among the eyes of the world.
00:39:58 Well, there's so many things I could say, but yeah,
00:40:00 the use of the word mass graves isn't intentional.
00:40:03 When you hear that, you think of the Soviet Union
00:40:06 or you think of the killing fields of Cambodia or something like that.
00:40:09 We're never talking about mass graves.
00:40:11 And the fact that they used that, I think you're right, that was deceptive.
00:40:13 It was repetitive.
00:40:14 It was, and it was demoralizing.
00:40:17 I think that that was the main thing.
00:40:19 It's so rich right now, Kian, to see Justin Trudeau and the Liberals
00:40:22 play this like Team Canada, like with the flag and take back the flag and everything.
00:40:26 It's like, I'm sorry, you've spent the last nine years, and specifically since 2021,
00:40:31 telling Canadians that they are racist, that their country was built on genocide,
00:40:36 that it is shameful to be Canadian, exaggerating things that happened in our past.
00:40:40 Look, no one's past is perfect.
00:40:42 And I think that Canada made a lot of mistakes with that program.
00:40:44 I'm not in favor of residential schools at all.
00:40:47 But the reality is they flamed a story, flamed a hoax narrative that Canada had committed genocide,
00:40:53 that, I'm sorry, but priests and nuns were out there murdering kids. 1.00
00:40:56 Like, it was never true. It was outrageous on the surface.
00:40:59 And the legacy media didn't challenge it.
00:41:02 Instead, they just promoted it and propagated it.
00:41:04 And it did take the independent press.
00:41:05 I know that there were some strong voices in the legacy media that came around,
00:41:09 like Terry Glavin, and he did great work on it.
00:41:11 But that was like a year or two after the fact.
00:41:13 True North, we were telling these facts and reporting this in real time.
00:41:17 And it was tough because nobody wanted to hear it.
00:41:20 And people were very upset that we would dare question the narrative.
00:41:24 And that's all we were doing at the time was just asking some simple questions like,
00:41:27 what do you mean ground-penetrating radar?
00:41:29 What does that mean? What does that entail?
00:41:31 When is this report going to be released? When can we see it?
00:41:33 Like, what have you found? Just kind of basic questions.
00:41:36 And poking some holes in the narrative that we saw.
00:41:38 And, you know, I think it's terrible what Justin Trudeau did to the country, what the media did.
00:41:44 Because, I mean, imagine, like, for any young Canadian growing up, you know, you look at patriotism rates,
00:41:50 the number of young Canadians that say that they would move to the United States, it's like half.
00:41:54 And it's like, well, do you really blame them?
00:41:56 They were raised at a time, like, telling, like, first of all, there's not the same economic opportunities.
00:42:01 But you also live in a country that tells them that there's something wrong with them, that their country is wrong,
00:42:05 that it was built off the back of something horrendous.
00:42:08 And same thing for First Nations children.
00:42:10 It's like, imagine being told that narrative and trying to live in that country,
00:42:14 being told that you're not ever really going to have a fair shake.
00:42:18 The country hates you.
00:42:19 They try to commit genocide against you and your people.
00:42:21 Like, it's just such a horrible thing that they did, and that is one thing.
00:42:24 I honestly think that's one of the worst things that Justin Trudeau did to this country.
00:42:27 A legacy of demoralizing and destroying a generation,
00:42:32 making it financially impossible to live,
00:42:35 making it almost a crime to love your country and support its history despite the issues that it had.
00:42:45 You know, you made a good point.
00:42:47 The residential school system was terrible.
00:42:49 You know, I'm the last person that would ever support the idea of a government coming into a family's home and taking kids.
00:42:56 You know, that's nuts.
00:42:59 That didn't really happen, though.
00:43:00 That's the thing.
00:43:01 That's why True North published a book called Grave Error.
00:43:04 Tom Flanagan, who's a renowned professor of political science there,
00:43:08 he basically makes the point that the program was never compulsory.
00:43:11 This idea that they were coming in and swooping and taking kids is greatly exaggerated,
00:43:15 and that the numbers, like, it was a voluntary program.
00:43:18 Most people actually wanted their kids to go because they wanted their children to have the opportunity to have a free education.
00:43:23 And they were top-notch education in many cases.
00:43:27 So, I mean, so many of the things that we say and hear about the residential school program are not true.
00:43:33 I think broadly speaking, I would say that it wasn't a good thing for the country.
00:43:39 I don't like the government intervening in most cases.
00:43:42 Yeah, I'm glad that education is under the provincial jurisdiction.
00:43:45 I wouldn't want a federal department of education.
00:43:48 Yeah, it would be a disaster nine times out of ten.
00:43:52 But yeah, that is Trudeau's legacy, is the legacy of demoralizing a generation,
00:43:56 making it financially impossible to live and work in the country.
00:44:00 You know, it's become almost a status symbol to have a home now.
00:44:04 That wasn't the case 10, 15 years ago.
00:44:08 Once you turned 25, you were sort of on your way to, you know,
00:44:12 and you had a job and you started a family, you were on your way,
00:44:16 you'd have a home.
00:44:18 And on top of that, you know, having kids at this point has become a status symbol.
00:44:21 It's impossible to afford children in Justin Trudeau's Canada.
00:44:25 And I think that's by design.
00:44:26 And Justin Trudeau doesn't really care if you're struggling to afford groceries,
00:44:31 you're not fighting back against the government.
00:44:33 That's it, plain and simple.
00:44:35 Well, I hope that having kids, I think having kids is one of the most important things that people can do.
00:44:41 It's really sad to me to see the plummeting birth rate, something that we don't talk about nearly enough.
00:44:46 It's really an alarming trend among young Canadians.
00:44:49 There's not having kids.
00:44:50 Millennials aren't having kids. 1.00
00:44:51 Genesies aren't having kids. 1.00
00:44:51 I think the replacement rate is supposed to be 2.1.
00:44:54 I think right now we're at like 1.3, which is just like terrifyingly low.
00:44:58 And I think you're right.
00:44:59 When people are demoralized, when they feel like they can't afford things, they're not going to take that next step in life.
00:45:05 I wanted to quickly just before we wrap it up, you know, the premiers are down in Washington, D.C. right now.
00:45:11 We, you know, we're hearing lots of different things come out of that event.
00:45:16 But one of the things that frustrates me is when you have like the federal minister of international trade saying
00:45:22 supply management is off the table like we're not willing to budge on this basically internal
00:45:28 protectionist program that we have that if you were american you'd say that's a legitimate
00:45:32 concern so we're saying we're not willing to even talk about supply management of dairy we would
00:45:38 rather have 25 percent tariffs across the board on everything than worry about upsetting this one
00:45:44 special interest group you made the point that um you know they were willing to sacrifice alberta
00:45:48 oil, right? But they're not willing to sacrifice
00:45:51 this arcane
00:45:53 outdated communist program that
00:45:54 protects a couple of hundred dairy farmers.
00:45:56 Literally the sacred cow of this country.
00:45:59 The oil lobby could learn
00:46:00 a few things from the dairy lobby. The dairy
00:46:02 lobby is great at what they do because they
00:46:04 have positioned themselves as
00:46:06 these supporters of
00:46:08 small family farms.
00:46:10 If we didn't have this communist
00:46:12 control over our
00:46:14 milk and butter system,
00:46:16 then family farms would cease to exist. It's like,
00:46:18 no, that's not true. If we let American dairy into this country, our farmers supposedly are
00:46:25 great. I think they are. I think that we have great farmers in this country and they will be
00:46:31 able to manage their own supply. They'll be able to manage a high quality product. They'll be able
00:46:37 to grow and compete. And who doesn't want American dairy products and more choice in their
00:46:44 supermarkets? Who wouldn't want European cheese in their supermarkets? But for some reason, we are
00:46:50 not allowed to allow that free market into our country. For what? To protect this massive lobby
00:46:56 that has a ton of money to influence politicians. You know, that's how I started my career, was
00:47:01 actually exposing the dairy lobby for their manipulative tactics that they used on the
00:47:06 Conservative Party and Andrew Scheer, when the Conservative Party was considering getting rid
00:47:10 of supply management, and, you know, they promised their membership, the dairy lobby,
00:47:16 that it didn't matter what people voted for, they were going to get their way, which I
00:47:22 think is sad.
00:47:24 But, you know, I think that the oil industry should take notes because, you know, the government
00:47:30 in Ottawa seemed completely willing to sacrifice the oil and gas industry just, you know, over
00:47:38 almost nothing.
00:47:39 But they won't budge on this when our entire economy is on the line.
00:47:43 It's embarrassing.
00:47:44 Well, especially given the reality that we live in,
00:47:48 like we have a cost-of-living crisis.
00:47:49 Canadians can't afford groceries at the same rate.
00:47:51 I think, like, what is it, 40% use a food bank, or 20%, sorry,
00:47:56 have used a food bank, millions and millions of Canadians.
00:47:58 It's like, how about we introduce a policy that might lower the prices,
00:48:02 add some competition in there?
00:48:03 I think you're right that Canadian dairy farmers do a great job
00:48:05 and it's a good quality product,
00:48:06 but couldn't we all benefit from some more competition?
00:48:09 We do live in a free market society, or at least we're supposed to.
00:48:11 They're treating our milk like OPEC treats oil.
00:48:13 Yeah.
00:48:14 Which is, you know, it's shameful.
00:48:17 Seeing milk go down the drain while food banks are running out of food.
00:48:24 People are lining up.
00:48:26 It's actually bread lines.
00:48:27 And we're dumping milk down the drain to protect an archaic system that should not exist
00:48:32 and gambling our entire economy over this one issue.
00:48:36 This is what Donald Trump wants.
00:48:38 He wants concessions on things that we should do even though the Americans, you know, whether the Americans want us to do it or not.
00:48:45 It'd be good for Canadians to open up the market and provide more milk to families so that single moms who have three kids and are struggling can put milk in their kid's cereal bowl. 0.74
00:48:55 You know, I looked at a jug of milk when I was going to the supermarket last week.
00:49:00 It was like eight bucks for four liters of milk, and a stick of butter was even more than that.
00:49:05 Like, it's outrageous.
00:49:06 It is. It is.
00:49:07 And, you know, again, this is kind of like a low-hanging fruit.
00:49:10 It shouldn't take an American putting pressure on us from a trade perspective
00:49:13 to do the right thing to help Canadians have a more affordable life.
00:49:16 I completely agree with you on that one.
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