Juno News - August 27, 2021


The legacy media rushes to defend the Liberals

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legacy media fact-checking
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Mariam Monsef Erin O'Toole Justin Trudeau Mark McKinnon Stephen Staples Mary Amonsef Stephen Marr Danielle Smith Advocacy
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The Canadian press pretend to be the arbiters of truth, the legacy media lean in to defend Mary Amonsef, and the Toronto Star sends a pathological message on its front page. It's Fake News Friday, and we're taking fact checking to the next level.

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00:00:00.000 The Canadian press pretend to be the arbiters of truth, the legacy media lean in to defend
00:00:04.740 Mary Amonsef, and the Toronto Star sends a pathological message on its front page.
00:00:09.520 It's Fake News Friday, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:17.680 Hi everyone, happy Friday.
00:00:19.280 It is Friday, so we are going to do Fake News Friday, where we run through the legacy media
00:00:23.700 and point out how fraudulent they are, how much they lie, how they push misinformation,
00:00:28.840 and how you just cannot trust them.
00:00:31.060 So we're going to start with this Canadian press report.
00:00:34.020 The sort of theme of the week, being pushed by the Liberals and being picked up, of course,
00:00:37.820 by the mainstream media, the legacy media, is that Erin O'Toole supports more private delivery 0.85
00:00:43.680 within our universal healthcare system.
00:00:46.300 The Liberals put out that doctored, manipulated video early in the week, and because of that,
00:00:50.660 because Twitter slapped that label saying it was manipulated, we saw a lot of mainstream
00:00:54.520 media covering for the Liberals and pushing their views.
00:00:57.460 So what does CP, what does the Canadian press decide to fact-check?
00:01:00.680 Instead of fact-checking the Liberals, who were caught pushing misinformation on Twitter,
00:01:05.360 instead of fact-checking them and their partisan spin that has been exposed as being untrue,
00:01:10.600 instead the CP acts like good little journalists doing what the Liberals want,
00:01:15.680 doing the Liberals' dirty work, and goes ahead and fact-checks the accusation against Erin O'Toole,
00:01:20.800 which is that he wants to privatize healthcare.
00:01:23.040 So we saw this report go throughout the Canadian press, is the wire service,
00:01:27.580 so their reports go throughout the legacy media in newspapers across the country.
00:01:32.000 It was featured in the Toronto Star and many, many other publications.
00:01:36.240 So this is taking fact-checking to the next extreme, because the Canadian press,
00:01:41.340 instead of just calling it a fact-check, they call it a truth test, a truth test,
00:01:45.380 because they want you to believe that they are the arbiters of truth.
00:01:48.480 Whatever they determine to be true is the truth.
00:01:51.500 And so let's go through this truth test, this fact-check that the CP has done against Erin O'Toole.
00:01:57.080 So it says this,
00:01:58.040 The truth test is a project of the Canadian press that examines the accuracy of statements made by politicians.
00:02:02.820 Each claim is researched and analyzed to provide Canadians with facts instead of spin.
00:02:07.660 Okay, so we are being told that these are facts and this is not spin.
00:02:11.460 And so the statement that they're looking at is Erin O'Toole saying,
00:02:14.100 I support a public and universal system, full stop.
00:02:18.360 So it gives a bit of background of the whole liberal, pushing, manipulated media issue
00:02:23.560 and how Erin O'Toole has responded.
00:02:26.240 Now let's go down to the analysis part,
00:02:27.940 because this is where we're told that we're going to get the truth,
00:02:30.540 that we're going to get facts and not spin.
00:02:33.280 Interestingly, this is what it says.
00:02:35.120 The issue comes down to the question of whether more private, for-profit health services
00:02:39.500 can be offered without undermining Canada's universal public health care system,
00:02:43.760 advocates for a universal public system say it can't.
00:02:48.700 Okay, so we're told that we're getting facts here, not spin.
00:02:51.860 We're told that we're getting the truth.
00:02:53.600 And yet the entire analysis is rested upon advocates for universal public systems.
00:03:01.460 So these are advocates.
00:03:02.940 These are people who do activism.
00:03:04.820 This isn't the truth.
00:03:05.680 This is an objective.
00:03:06.640 This is a subjective opinion of people who are activists and advocates for the current status quo public system.
00:03:13.540 Okay, let's read a little bit from what these activists say.
00:03:17.580 So here we have an activist doctor from an organization called Canadian Doctors for Medicare.
00:03:22.580 So we know exactly where this person will stand.
00:03:25.100 And this is what the doctor says.
00:03:26.300 She says,
00:03:26.720 I would say that introducing more private pay into the health care system undermines our universal public health care,
00:03:32.980 regardless of whether or not you're saying you're going to allow for universal access.
00:03:38.680 Using our limited resources to service select few patients who can actually afford to pay privately
00:03:43.460 leaves less resources for everyone else in the system and worsens things off for the vast majority of Canadians.
00:03:49.660 So we found a doctor here that basically agrees exactly with the liberal talking points
00:03:55.620 and dumbs us all down to like the very narrow understanding of Canadian health care.
00:04:00.980 As I talked about on the show yesterday,
00:04:02.560 we know that more than half of the Canadian health care system is delivered privately.
00:04:07.500 And Canadians pay either out of pocket or through private insurance.
00:04:10.680 More than half, 55%.
00:04:12.400 And that's looking at everything from prescription drugs to dentistry to going to see an eye doctor to long-term care facilities.
00:04:19.540 So overall, most of our health care is already private.
00:04:22.760 What they're talking about when they talk about this universal public care is a very narrowly defined few areas of health care,
00:04:30.720 mainly going to a hospital or seeing a family practitioner doctor.
00:04:34.800 Those are the two main areas that are public.
00:04:37.640 And this doctor is saying, if you introduce more private delivery into these, it will hurt everyone,
00:04:42.960 which again, is exactly the liberal position.
00:04:45.560 And she goes on to make this point.
00:04:47.240 She says, we have a limited number of doctors, nurses, health care professionals in Canada.
00:04:51.100 So when you create these private clinics, you're not actually taking pressure off the public system.
00:04:54.640 You're taking professionals away from the public system, which leads to longer wait times in the public system,
00:04:59.660 which is the point of access for far more Canadians.
00:05:03.160 Now, again, this is a very limited way of thinking about health care because the idea is that we only have a set number of doctors.
00:05:09.480 And if you start allowing for private delivery, those doctors will go over to that system, making the public system more crunch.
00:05:15.780 This isn't even true, though.
00:05:17.040 Just think about how many Canadians go abroad.
00:05:19.620 They go to the United States. 0.55
00:05:20.840 They go to other countries where they can actually make more money.
00:05:23.340 There are tons of very talented doctors that move down to the U.S. for that exact reason.
00:05:27.540 So presumably, if there were more opportunities, more options in Canada to make money, to do more services in Canada, many of those doctors would come back.
00:05:36.540 Also, Canada is a country of immigration.
00:05:38.800 There are so many people that want to come to Canada.
00:05:41.220 There are so many people who are qualified medical professionals, doctors, nurses, who come to Canada and can't practice because of our ridiculous system of credentials.
00:05:49.920 So this idea that we sort of have like a zero-sum game of health care professionals and anyone who moves to the private sector leaves the public sector with fewer resources is just untrue.
00:06:00.240 It's just not the case.
00:06:01.400 So what we're really seeing here is spin from health care professionals who are advocates for one certain position, which happens to be a position that goes against what the Conservatives are advocating for and aligns with what the Liberals are advocating for.
00:06:14.220 So I don't understand how this is a fact check.
00:06:16.820 I don't understand how this is a truth test as the Canadian press are reporting it because really what I'm seeing here is just opinions from doctors.
00:06:24.840 Now, let's keep reading because we have even more opinions from doctors coming in.
00:06:29.080 So next we hear from another individual named Stephen Staples, who is the National Director of Policy and Advocacy for the Canadian Health Coalition.
00:06:37.360 And again, he just criticizes the Conservative position.
00:06:40.880 He says, by increasing for-profit players in the health care system, you create a two-tier system, which is, again, the very partisan, very narrow, limited, liberal attack line.
00:06:51.620 That's what we hear Justin Trudeau saying all week.
00:06:53.340 That's what we heard Chrystia Freeland saying all week. 0.99
00:06:55.820 And here we go.
00:06:56.720 The Canadian press has just found two people who are health care activists, health care advocates, who make the exact same point as the Liberals.
00:07:04.820 And we're, again, supposed to believe that this is truth.
00:07:07.600 And so this is how the article concludes.
00:07:09.560 It says, conclusion, O'Toole has not explained how his support for allowing more private, for-profit medical services squares with his assertion that he fully supports universal public health care.
00:07:20.200 Public health care advocates say he can't have it both ways.
00:07:23.660 This report totally omits the fact that O'Toole has actually pledged more money than the Liberals to go towards public universal health care.
00:07:32.960 Or just the idea that we're talking about increasing the amount of money in health care, both on the private side and the public universal side.
00:07:40.380 So CP just basically runs an opinion piece about how they agree with the Liberals and then brand it as a truth test.
00:07:48.340 And unbelievable, but this is exactly what you expect from the legacy media.
00:07:52.560 Now, speaking of the legacy media carrying water for Liberals, especially when Liberals make mistakes and make gaffes and embarrass themselves,
00:08:00.620 let's talk about the story of Mariam Monsef, the Minister for the Status of Women in the Trudeau government,
00:08:06.320 Member of Parliament who's running as a Liberal candidate in this election out in Peterborough.
00:08:10.560 Well, earlier this week she was talking to the Taliban and she called them our brothers.
00:08:15.740 Our brothers, the Taliban. 1.00
00:08:17.240 It was perhaps the stupidest thing that I've ever seen a Canadian politician say. 1.00
00:08:21.900 The most embarrassing and absolutely despicable thing that a Canadian government official could say on the world stage, 0.99
00:08:29.180 speaking to Canadian journalists, but also apparently speaking directly to the Taliban, calling them our brothers. 0.97
00:08:36.680 It was absolutely, absolutely ridiculous.
00:08:39.120 And yet, and yet, we saw many, many journalists jump in to defend Mariam Monsef and say that what she was doing was actually great. 0.65
00:08:49.140 So here we have an individual named Mark McKinnon.
00:08:52.020 He is a senior international correspondent for the Globe and Mail based in London.
00:08:58.320 And this is what he writes.
00:08:59.760 He says,
00:09:00.120 Can we do the politics and point scoring later?
00:09:16.940 Well, first of all, no, because we're in the middle of an election, an election that the Liberals decided to trigger, the Liberals decided to call.
00:09:22.760 And here we have a Liberal cabinet minister calling one of the most despicable terrorist organizations on Earth, on planet Earth, our brothers.
00:09:31.140 So yes, this is about politics.
00:09:33.020 And unfortunately, during an election, you're going to see point scoring.
00:09:36.580 So we can't all of a sudden say, let's just rise above the partisan fray in the middle of an election that the Liberals triggered.
00:09:43.560 Next, this idea that somehow Mariam Monsef was doing this brilliant game of diplomacy by talking to the Taliban and using friendly language and calling them our brothers, like that will make them listen.
00:09:56.120 I've got news for Mark McKinnon, apparently a very senior international correspondent.
00:10:01.540 Perhaps he would know that the Taliban have absolutely no regard for women, especially Western women.
00:10:07.540 They are not going to listen to anything a woman says. 1.00
00:10:10.120 They're not going to listen to anything a Western woman says, like Mariam Monsef. 1.00
00:10:13.100 They're not going to listen to anything a woman who is not wearing a hijab says. 1.00
00:10:17.400 So here we have Mariam Monsef, a Western cabinet minister for a Liberal government in Canada.
00:10:23.740 She's a woman. 0.82
00:10:24.680 She's not wearing a hijab.
00:10:25.840 She's speaking in English and she's speaking on Canadian television.
00:10:29.340 The Taliban are not going to respond to that.
00:10:31.300 The Taliban aren't even paying attention.
00:10:32.980 And if they were, they would just laugh at the idea of a woman trying to tell her what to do.
00:10:37.840 So no, that is not good insight over at the Globe and Mail.
00:10:40.960 That is just blatant partisanship defending the Liberals.
00:10:45.280 And of course, not alone.
00:10:46.860 Here we have Dale Smith from the Parliamentary Press Gallery, a freelance journalist.
00:10:50.980 Of course, he's saying context matters, everybody, because Mariam Monsef constantly refers to people in Afghanistan as her brother.
00:10:59.200 So that makes it all okay.
00:11:01.020 Apparently, that makes it all okay for Mariam Monsef to call the Taliban our brothers.
00:11:05.660 And now we have Stephen Marr, another freelance reporter and a frequent writer in McLean's.
00:11:11.440 He says, this is unfortunate language for her to use, but I don't have much appetite for the ginned up outrage.
00:11:17.520 You think she's a Taliban sympathizer?
00:11:19.300 No way.
00:11:19.680 She's not.
00:11:20.380 No, nobody thinks she's a Taliban sympathizer.
00:11:22.600 No one thinks that she's saying our brothers as if she's part of the Taliban.
00:11:25.760 We think that she is making a huge mistake by equating the Taliban as an ally, as a friend, speaking as a Canadian government official.
00:11:34.120 That is not okay.
00:11:35.080 She's not speaking in her private life.
00:11:37.060 She's not speaking as an Afghan refugee or a Muslim woman.
00:11:41.240 She's speaking in her capacity as a government official.
00:11:44.440 And she's saying our brothers to the Taliban.
00:11:47.080 So no, we're not saying that she's part of the Taliban, but we're saying that she's using despicable language to refer to a terrorist organization.
00:11:54.560 And next, we have a CBC reporter who tweeted in French.
00:11:59.100 She's from Radio Canada, which is the French language part of the CBC.
00:12:03.040 And she says this is translated into English.
00:12:05.940 The Taliban call the Afghan women whom they beat and denigrate our sisters.
00:12:10.160 It is in the language, nothing else.
00:12:12.680 And yes, there are women who speak to the Taliban.
00:12:15.680 Okay, that's very delusional take.
00:12:18.660 And if there are a few women that speak to the Taliban, maybe as intermediaries, they're not giving advice. 0.89
00:12:24.220 The Taliban do not listen to women.
00:12:25.940 The Taliban do not respect women, which is why we see the situation going back to the dark ages with the Taliban in charge.
00:12:32.000 They don't believe in women's rights. 1.00
00:12:33.120 They don't believe in women's education. 0.99
00:12:34.760 They don't believe in basic decency and any kind of kind treatment towards women.
00:12:39.260 So this whole idea that the Taliban are going to listen to Maryam Monsef, okay, good luck with that. 0.99
00:12:44.880 All right, one more story that I want to cover.
00:12:46.640 And it's mostly because I've never seen a front page of a newspaper with such a despicable message.
00:12:52.660 So this was the front page of the Toronto Star on Thursday.
00:12:56.400 And when I read it, I just really couldn't believe what I was reading.
00:12:59.900 The boldened part of the front page here says,
00:13:02.280 So here we have the Toronto Star, the left-wing newspaper of the city of Toronto,
00:13:20.100 probably the most left-wing newspaper in the country. 0.99
00:13:23.160 And they are openly advocating the idea that if you're not vaccinated, you deserve to die.
00:13:29.500 Now, usually the left-wing parties, the left-wing people are the ones who are the advocates for kindness and empathy and love and all these things.
00:13:39.500 And yet when it comes to this debate over vaccines and how we're going to get past COVID,
00:13:44.880 all of a sudden, the whole idea is that they have no empathy.
00:13:48.300 The story that this front page was based on was an entire story about empathy
00:13:52.000 and how we're just not seeing a lot of empathy between the two camps, between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
00:13:57.780 But pushing this message, I'm not even sure who this is a quote for.
00:14:01.000 I read the entire piece, and I'm not sure who is saying this, this thing that was written on the front page.
00:14:06.080 I have no empathy for the willfully unvaccinated. 1.00
00:14:09.260 Let them die. 0.96
00:14:10.440 From best I can tell, it's just the author taking things from Twitter, pulling things off of Twitter, 0.99
00:14:15.280 and they decided that they were going to put that on the front page.
00:14:18.440 This is the most heartless thing perhaps ever written on a front page of a newspaper in Canada.
00:14:24.580 And it's interesting.
00:14:25.560 So over at True North, we broke this story this week that the CBC has instructed their own employees
00:14:31.060 that getting vaccinated is their choice, that it is a personal choice,
00:14:34.920 and they will not implement mandatory vaccines at this time.
00:14:38.980 Interesting because they're pushing forward this partisan liberal campaign message
00:14:43.540 and this wedge issue that Justin Trudeau has brought forth,
00:14:45.960 saying that we must have mandatory vaccines, and that is the liberal path towards victory.
00:14:50.800 So the CBC, again, is carrying water for Trudeau in advocating this position,
00:14:55.440 but they don't practice what they preach because they're not making it mandatory at the CBC.
00:14:59.700 True North has also reached out to the Toronto Star regarding their vaccination policy,
00:15:03.520 but we have not yet seen a response.
00:15:06.120 This is getting into very dangerous, dicey territory, we as a country,
00:15:09.760 where we have divided our country into the vaccinated and the unvaccinated,
00:15:14.340 the we versus them, and we see the two sides being pitted against each other.
00:15:18.200 Here we have a mainstream media organization, the Toronto Star, on their very front page,
00:15:23.360 pushing this insanely, insanely heartless, cruel message.
00:15:28.080 This is a country we live in, a country we live in where we just shrug our shoulders and say, 0.99
00:15:32.480 you deserve to die if you don't make the exact same medical choice that I do.
00:15:36.480 I think that is an incredibly sad reflection on the country, 1.00
00:15:40.060 and even worse, a sad reflection on the mainstream media.
00:15:43.480 Shame on the Toronto Star for putting out a despicable headline.
00:15:46.880 All right, that's it for me, everyone.
00:15:48.620 Have a great weekend.
00:15:49.360 We'll be back next week.
00:15:50.300 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:15:52.500 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm of the United States.
00:16:05.960 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is located in Afghanistan.