Juno News - The legacy media rushes to defend Trudeau

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to you all this is another edition of fake news friday september 23rd

00:00:16.320 2022 that part's not fake news we like to just throw you a little nugget of real news

00:00:20.780 even if it is as small as just getting the date right which to be honest i cbc i don't even think

00:00:25.980 could land that on a lot of days which is why this show exists and why we often have so much

00:00:30.720 material to work through i am andrew lawton with you for the next however long this takes joined

00:00:36.340 as always by my colleague harrison faulkner host of the fantastic show ratioed on true north i just

00:00:44.220 set the stage i i'm always aware of generational gaps what does ratioed mean ratioed for those

00:00:50.680 that aren't aware is basically when someone on social media usually it's about twitter but it's

00:00:55.300 when the like to comment uh ratio is totally out of whack so there's more comments than there are

00:01:01.200 likes on a tweet that's usually the the telltale sign that you missed the mark andrew or you've or

00:01:06.640 you've uh you you've made it you made somewhere you've made an error in your tweet uh that's so

00:01:12.060 we basically just made a show about that to try and mock uh a lot of the people that do this particularly

00:01:16.680 on uh in the media space so it's turned out to be a bit of people have found found it to be quite

00:01:21.080 interesting i was informed there wouldn't be math on this test and now you're talking about like

00:01:25.300 ratios and the like to tweet index and all of that so uh you explained it very well on your show so

00:01:31.420 for those who hadn't watched it wanted to give you a little bit of a primer there uh because it's

00:01:35.460 useful some of the tweets that we'll be talking about today i believe have gotten the old ratio

00:01:39.520 on twitter and let's begin i know what happened last week now but this has been like as far as a fake

00:01:45.640 news uh themed show this has been the gift that keeps on giving if you haven't heard the the most

00:01:52.260 famous geopolitical global vocal piano bar solo yet here you go

00:01:57.780 yes shockingly this is real life it's not a fantasy

00:02:15.620 uh i don't know if we're caught in a landslide but we're certainly caught in something if this

00:02:19.400 is what our prime minister is doing when he's overseas representing canada at her late majesty

00:02:24.760 queen elizabeth ii state funeral it wasn't at the funeral at least i mean even justin trudeau would

00:02:30.200 be a little bit uh i have just a little bit too much self-awareness to do that but two days before

00:02:35.660 it in the piano bar of the corinthia hotel belting out uh the queen track bohemian rhapsody

00:02:43.320 and i should say first and foremost that my issue is not with the prime minister singing

00:02:49.260 stephen harper did that he did a duet with yo-yo ma on stage which i thought was quite good

00:02:54.020 some years ago the issue is i think what's causing it which is trudeau wanting to be the

00:02:59.800 center of attention and also the time and place which is on a state visit for the queen of canada's

00:03:05.580 funeral the former queen of canada i should say so all of that out of the way that the focus i think

00:03:11.700 shifts from justin trudeau to the media and we saw as you can see on the screen there the daily

00:03:17.820 mail the telegraph fox news all of them understanding what this is and understanding why this is a

00:03:25.000 problem uk us australia as well but you look at the canadian media the parliamentary press gallery

00:03:31.800 members the people whose outlets are receiving that 600 million dollar bailout and they're the ones

00:03:36.300 not only saying they don't see an issue with this but actually taking aim at people who do

00:03:41.340 well we've been doing the show andrew for i can't even many months now and by this point i've come to

00:03:47.580 expect uh what we what we usually get from the legacy media but i have to say when i was watching this

00:03:52.420 whole story unfold in the in the legacy media in canada i was actually surprised at just how far

00:03:58.940 they were willing to go to defend justin trudeau over this it surprised me how shameless they were in

00:04:04.580 defending the prime minister the man who of course pays most of their salaries not all of them but

00:04:09.220 most of them and i just thought look this is this is obviously perfect this is cannon fodder for fake

00:04:14.260 news friday this is exactly what the show is all about but it's leave it to the can't leave it to

00:04:17.980 canada's legacy media to be the only ones who don't understand what's going on here it was only the

00:04:22.820 legacy media journalists in canada that couldn't figure out a what was wrong with this or b why they

00:04:29.020 why they shouldn't be defending it of course the legacy or not the legacy media but the tabloid

00:04:34.260 press in england and the americans of course made a meal out of it and uh of course they would because

00:04:39.300 it's just it's it's perfect you've got you've got justin trudeau going full freddie mercury there

00:04:43.140 you know acting as though no one in the world can see him and he just really embraces that inner

00:04:47.600 drama teacher of uh and just goes for it it's just embarrassing but again leave it to the legacy

00:04:53.020 media to be the only ones not knowing how to approach the situation i think everyone in canada saw that

00:04:57.520 and thought yeah that's yet another embarrassing moment for our prime minister but it was the

00:05:02.280 legacy media andrew who wanted to do this whole elaborate you know scheme to defend the prime

00:05:08.160 minister multiple layers of defense when one layer of defense failed they moved on to the next so we

00:05:12.340 they started off by saying of course that no andrew this is a fake story the you see the the cars in

00:05:18.220 the background the length of his hair it's not quite right it's got to be from the jubilee then when

00:05:22.020 that turned out to be fake then of course they went to the whole idea of it it wasn't sunday it was

00:05:25.820 saturday it wasn't the eve of the funeral it was saturday that makes it all the better and then

00:05:29.340 when that when that didn't turn out to uh to stand with the canadian people with the rest of the world

00:05:33.000 then they decided to say andrew that actually it was in tribute the queen it was in tribute to the

00:05:37.860 queen oh no you skipped one there because originally they tried to like do the zapruder like analysis as 0.95

00:05:43.880 you mentioned so oh that bus in the background i don't know if that's recent but then they did global

00:05:48.200 did the big fact check on the location because the original tweet that blew up on this and i don't know

00:05:52.620 where they pulled the video from said oh this was at the savoy hotel in london and then global news is

00:05:57.540 like fact checking it they're like no it's at the carinthia hotel in london not the savoy oh okay yeah

00:06:04.120 that totally made i mean that that would be like when bev oda got in trouble years ago for having a 1.00

00:06:09.720 16 glass of orange juice at the savoy hotel i would love for the conservative uh defense to that

00:06:15.240 have been like um no she had a 16 glass of orange juice at the carinthia hotel yeah exactly and the

00:06:22.480 worst part i think that's what you do i'm trying to be sassy is that how you is that how you do it

00:06:25.760 i think i think but yeah leave me well in this case it's the cbc could you imagine the cbc going

00:06:31.200 no actually it was the wrong hotel bev oda was not drinking at the savoy that's how absurd it is

00:06:36.680 it's this idea that it's the media doing it for him and i was saying this i thought i thought about

00:06:41.260 this uh yesterday on ratioed which was you know imagine one of the journalists at the daily mail

00:06:47.100 or one of the journalists in the uk or u.s calling up their friends at the cbc or ctv i'm i'm hoping

00:06:52.740 that some of these legacy media journalists have friends so imagine this a journalist from outside

00:06:57.140 of the country calls him up and just says what are you doing you guys look ridiculous this this this

00:07:02.000 like soviet style north korean style defense of the prime minister saying oh this this drunken scene 0.87

00:07:08.040 was in was in tribute he was toasting canada's late head of state exactly right and then the last

00:07:12.980 line of defense when again that one didn't stick with can't with canadians was ah andrew it's not

00:07:17.340 a big deal why are we getting up in arms about this anyway no no problem at all yeah i like this

00:07:23.660 tack because it's interesting after you've spent a considerable time and effort and energy fact

00:07:29.340 checking it to be like well it doesn't really matter i guess it's like well then why were you fat

00:07:33.520 like why were you talking about it why were you investigating it why were you uh trying to look at

00:07:37.300 like the tile pattern on the floor to figure out exactly which hotel lobby this was in if it was

00:07:41.560 no big deal and there are a few examples of this aaron wary at cbc i refuse to believe that anyone

00:07:47.700 truly and genuinely cares about the prime minister singing in a hotel lobby on saturday night uh that

00:07:53.800 was i think a great example we saw a lot of that from people and you look at again the foreign reaction

00:07:59.440 versus the canadian reaction and just like justin trudeau's india trip the world sees what i think a lot

00:08:05.880 canadian see and the canadian media refuses to see it i mean this clip from talk tv in the uk i think is 0.88

00:08:12.760 very telling since then i've realized he's an arch narcissist controlling fascist sociopath that's 0.55

00:08:19.020 not well i mean just as well he became a politician then because that's exactly the qualifications that 0.85

00:08:24.240 you need absolutely um the specific reason i'm making him my plank is actually i am doing this

00:08:31.860 on behalf of canada there have been 500 000 tweets in the last couple of days all saying trudeau must

00:08:38.820 go now this has gone it's gone viral it's a it's a great twitter trend and what people are doing is

00:08:44.340 saying who they are what they do and saying that their views are too extreme for trudeau and trudeau must

00:08:48.880 go they're mainly objecting to the vaccine mandates you know canada's still living in this kind of viral

00:08:54.100 handmaid's tale world where you can't go anywhere unless you're back well they've got all of them and

00:08:59.560 they're all still completely strict and so the thing is that he kind of projects this image of being

00:09:03.600 really reasonable and he's he's popular but twitter trends don't tell a lie and he's got half a million

00:09:10.560 tweets from his home country saying he must go now i mean laura dodsworth was absolutely spitting fire 0.98

00:09:16.780 there i'm not saying that singing bohemian rhapsody makes you a narcissistic controlling fascist sociopath 0.92

00:09:21.940 but the whole point is that the canadian media just refuses to accept that there is another side

00:09:27.420 to this so often no exactly and then i think andrew one of the funnier clips we got was from

00:09:33.180 greg gutfeld at fox news when he said he'd rather take hunter biden as a president of the united states

00:09:38.620 than justin trudeau watch this some want to throw him in the pokey for his weird attempt at karaoke

00:09:46.140 while brit's hearts ache trudeau parties at a wake canadian prime minister justin trudeau otherwise

00:09:55.740 known as a poor man's gavin newsom is being accused of disrespect for singing bohemian rhapsody in a

00:10:03.500 london hotel lobby while visiting for the queen's funeral canadians are too nice to criticize him but

00:10:09.420 we're not like that you know what this is the worst example or the best example of nepotism ever he

00:10:14.220 only got his job because of his last name his dad was prime minister right his you know whatever

00:10:19.100 who cares but but i take hunter biden as president over that

00:10:24.780 yes i would oh boo yourself boo yourself no no don't turn on me don't turn on me

00:10:33.340 so andrew we see justin trudeau going full freddie mercury full as you know acting as if no one in

00:10:38.780 the world can see him and and luckily for him if he didn't have the legacy media in canada bought off

00:10:43.740 i'm afraid it would be a lot worse for him he would get he would get the treatment that he's getting

00:10:47.740 from the rest of the world but luckily for the prime minister uh we can say that he doesn't have

00:10:53.260 to bear the brunt of the of the legacy of the international media when in canada well in keeping

00:10:58.700 with the freddie mercury theme we can say the canadian media are going radio gaga for justin trudeau

00:11:05.660 in this this this next story andrew i thought was you know just another example i think of the

00:11:11.740 legacy media trying to wait maybe it's taking their job too seriously but when i first saw it 0.98

00:11:17.660 i thought they really think canadians are stupid they really have they really look at canadians as 0.99

00:11:22.460 though they're they're almost like children they have to they have to speak the obvious to us when 0.99

00:11:26.620 we know what we're looking at is is is jokes it's a it's a fake meme so there was a there was a fake

00:11:32.220 tweet of justin trudeau going around that i think almost every single person who saw it maybe

00:11:36.380 borrowing a couple knew that it was fake because it's a picture it's a screenshot it's not that

00:11:40.300 difficult to understand what you're looking at the the the supposed fake tweet from justin trudeau

00:11:46.540 read it has come to my attention that hashtag trudeau must go has been trending for more than 24

00:11:51.260 hours this is nothing more than the work of putin and the cpc in an effort to discredit me this is

00:11:56.460 precisely why our government has committed to regulating and censoring canadian online content

00:12:00.940 so andrew i think the majority people who saw that knew exactly that it was fake when after reading

00:12:06.540 the line about putin and the cpc i'm hoping that everyone at that point realized ah this is a good

00:12:11.900 joke uh they're just they're just poking fun of the prime minister but of course the legacy media

00:12:16.620 journalists i just don't think are connected to the people that they supposedly serve the people they 0.94

00:12:21.500 write for they think that we're really that stupid so they do the whole fact check army comes out in 0.95

00:12:26.540 full in full force you got the ap you've got the you got reuters coming through and then you've got 0.94

00:12:31.260 mercedes stevenson and some of these other legacy media journalists in canada writing this you know

00:12:37.260 this is a fake tweet everyone this is not real the prime minister didn't actually write this of course

00:12:41.820 he didn't andrew mercedes stevenson wrote there's a tweet circulating it appears to be from pm justin

00:12:46.540 trudeau talking about the hashtag trudeau must go mr trudeau never tweeted it the tweet is manufactured

00:12:51.900 and it's going viral one online literacy simple trick check the actual accounts timeline wow thanks for

00:12:57.260 that we really needed that lesson yeah i gotta say i i'm i'm conflicted on this because for for

00:13:03.180 starters i think there's nothing in this tweet that justin trudeau probably doesn't think so in that way

00:13:07.340 it may actually be entirely believable even if it's not the way that you know he would normally

00:13:11.900 communicate because it's clear and you understand what he's saying in the tweet so it must have been

00:13:16.380 fake however i have seen this proliferation especially in the last few months of just manufactured

00:13:23.660 news story headlines manufactured tweets that go around and people do i don't know how many of them

00:13:28.940 i don't know what percentage it is 10 15 20 people do believe these things and and part of it has become

00:13:34.540 has been because we're in the period right now in which satire is just so misunderstood people think

00:13:39.980 just making something up is satirical but it's not i mean satire has to have a little bit of

00:13:45.020 intelligence it can't just be fake so people do believe in this and i i did see people that shared

00:13:49.500 that tweet thinking it was real because this is a guy who has talked about uh not tolerating the

00:13:55.180 unvaccinated it's a guy who's called his political enemies a fringe minority with unacceptable views

00:14:00.540 who's called people that protest him um racist misogynist neo-nazi swastika flag waver so i i think to

00:14:07.820 a lot of people who may not be the most technically literate this was actually believable now i i do think

00:14:14.060 you're right about how the fact check army devotes so much attention on these things and not others

00:14:20.460 so there's a selective fact checking when people are spreading misinformation about conservatives i i

00:14:25.740 genuinely believe that they're a lot slower on the uptake to do it but at the same time i also don't

00:14:30.300 think it's a negative thing when something like this is circulating if there is any ambiguity if there's

00:14:35.820 any reasonably sized contingent that's believing it to say hey this is nonsense but you should just

00:14:41.100 say that and then move on yeah i think there's a good debate to be had here you're exactly right

00:14:45.580 andrew that of course we can't really be having fake statements from world leaders that are

00:14:50.860 obviously fake but are being believed i mean obviously we need to do something about that and

00:14:54.940 there needs to be some sort of uh there needs to be some sort of you know checking of it but of course

00:14:59.900 there's also that whole idea that when i read it when i see it it just reads to me as though these

00:15:05.100 people need to be educated on the most basic things and maybe that's just because we have different you

00:15:10.300 you know we have yeah there is a lot of dumbing down to people for sure yeah yeah exactly well

00:15:14.860 so why don't we just move on to the next story here because this is such a perfect example in my

00:15:19.500 opinion of the tricks that legacy media try and put on a pull on canadians they do these little

00:15:24.700 things where they play certain uh statements in their articles they play with the headlines to

00:15:29.660 trick the reader into believing something that isn't exactly as it reads as a headline so ctv came

00:15:35.420 out with this article and the headline is justin trudeau slightly favored over pierre pauliev for

00:15:39.740 prime minister new poll so when you read that you probably think to yourself well the liberals are

00:15:44.700 uh you know they're edging up past pierre pauliev's conservatives you probably think that more

00:15:49.340 more canadians are willing to vote liberal but the problem is actually that's not the case because

00:15:54.940 if you read past the first couple headlines it says very plainly that 28 of respondents to the

00:16:00.860 poll said they would cast a ballot for the liberals and 34 of respondents said they would part their

00:16:05.900 vote with the tories now i'm no mathematician i know we talked about math earlier on in the show

00:16:10.220 andrew i'm no mathematician but when i read that it appears to me that more people in that poll would

00:16:15.820 vote for the conservatives than the liberals so why exactly they think they can go along with the

00:16:21.100 headline of justin trudeau slightly favored over pierre pauliev for prime minister when you know the

00:16:26.060 numbers itself say that the liberals would have fewer votes than the conservatives

00:16:30.460 obviously speaks volumes it's only 11 paragraphs into the story andrew where they find where they

00:16:35.900 finally say that in a preferred prime minister poll in a which it which doesn't actually matter that

00:16:41.500 much in my opinion on the national scale preferred prime minister justin trudeau edges pierre pauliev by

00:16:47.180 two percentage points so they're playing tricks with us there it's classic fake news in my opinion it's

00:16:51.820 just exactly what they've been doing for many years now this story is actually i think a test case

00:16:59.820 in how media bias can work because what they said is not inherently untrue the poll does say that but

00:17:06.700 it also says what you know and what i actually think is a more reasonable and more useful metric

00:17:11.580 that more people would vote conservative than the liberals it's i mean there was that old meme that

00:17:15.980 circulates every now and then of like two people staring at a number on the ground and one of them

00:17:20.540 is convinced it's a six and the other is convinced it's a nine and uh the the premise of that is that

00:17:25.340 well you know both people can be right it depends on your perspective and then the

00:17:28.700 retort to that is well no one of them is wrong even if they don't know they're wrong like

00:17:32.940 someone put that down there knowing it was going to be a six or a nine and here you've got multiple

00:17:38.220 people that can look at the same poll and draw wildly different conclusions from it and and i think that

00:17:43.100 you know the headline could be you know voters favor justin trudeau but would vote conservative like

00:17:48.540 what is that like that's actually i think a very useful and very concise headline or you could even talk

00:17:53.980 about how you know pierre polyev is still introducing himself there are a number of ways to frame it but

00:17:58.940 just picking one or the other which is what media does here gives a very skewed version of this and

00:18:04.700 i i actually think this story in a way could be taught and should be taught in journalism programs

00:18:09.340 because uh you do have a poll that has an inherent contradiction in it and it's amazing how media like

00:18:14.700 to just pick the one that benefits them the most and use that well the journalist you're exactly right

00:18:19.420 about it being a case study and it should be studied in journalism schools the journalists knew

00:18:23.660 exactly as you said andrew they had two they had really two avenues to go with the story well

00:18:27.980 three really they could go down the middle and try and blend the two together as you said in the

00:18:31.660 headline or they could take the one that counts or the one that doesn't count they knew that the the

00:18:37.260 opinion polls of the preferred prime minister which really mean nothing when it comes to the ballot

00:18:42.380 they knew that yeah if you're prepared to vote conservative but you're like yeah you know i guess i'm

00:18:46.140 not sure about pierre but i vote conservative anyway that is almost more useful there's no room on

00:18:50.380 the ballot to write your thoughts about the leader it's just you just circle the name and that's it

00:18:54.700 that's all you get so they knew however that the preferred prime minister poll itself was not as

00:18:59.900 important as the void voting choice that's why they put it 11 paragraphs down into the story but they

00:19:06.060 chose to lead with it in the headline that i think speaks volumes to where the legacy media is coming

00:19:11.580 from what they're prepared to do and just how willing they are to try and play tricks on the audience

00:19:17.020 and i think that's just it's it's just it's not right and i think that it it it happens all the

00:19:23.180 time that's why we talk about on the show there's a bias of omission there's also uh you know there's

00:19:27.580 also i i consider it to be bias of placement in the article most people will never get 11 paragraphs

00:19:32.460 into the story because they're busy they're doing other things they want to skim the headlines and

00:19:36.220 get the story there i just think it's it's a classic trick that the legacy media play and more

00:19:40.620 canadians should should be aware of it and they should get called out for it so i'm glad we're

00:19:44.380 doing it on this show yeah for sure uh we got to go back to the queen's passing for a moment here

00:19:50.700 because uh certainly we acknowledge the disrespectful nature of justin trudeau's solo but the takeaway i

00:19:57.340 think from this show has to be that he has not been the most disrespectful to her late majesty's

00:20:02.940 passing that award goes to the hill times where columnist erica ifill gets right to the point

00:20:08.860 in her headline the queen is gone and i'm glad her reign is over now you look at that and say okay

00:20:15.900 well it's a little bit uh a little bit on the nose what does she mean is she just talking about transition

00:20:20.220 is she just talking about uh you know not being a fan of the monarchy well her tweet is a little

00:20:24.780 bit more pointed good morning well good morning to you too erica how are you today i wrote 1241 words

00:20:31.420 about the queen and how i'm glad she's dead good riddance to bad rubbish this goes out to those

00:20:37.740 who have been inundated with lies and deception regarding the greatness of this monarch ma'am this 0.80

00:20:44.860 is a wendy's like this is honestly a fight that no one asked for right now even people even the ira

00:20:52.540 were more respectful of her late majesty's passing given the fact that she was a tremendously popular

00:20:58.780 woman she accomplished great things and this point that erica is attempting to make here doesn't even 0.98

00:21:04.380 go down that road that everyone goes down of well i like the queen but i don't love the monarchy and

00:21:09.340 yeah the queen was fine but colonialism bad she's like you know what that evil b-word is dead and i'm 0.99

00:21:15.020 glad she's gone and screw all you that like her you've all been lied to like like not only is it an 0.98

00:21:21.820 unhinged position but it's one that's like devoid of knowledge devoid of historic context and if you 0.98

00:21:27.820 read the column itself which i i don't recommend but if you're if you can painfully make your way

00:21:32.620 through it it isn't even supported by anything she's saying like she actually doesn't even know

00:21:38.060 about what she's speaking she just has this hot take of i'm glad the old lady is dead 1.00

00:21:43.340 no exactly and and i will i should say if we think that the headline which the hill times have run with

00:21:49.260 was the original headline proposed by erica eiffel then uh then i think that yeah that's an editor's

00:21:55.420 headline that's not a columnist the editor came in and said okay here let's just take out this

00:22:00.380 ridiculous language and let's just write something a bit better as a headline because when you read

00:22:05.580 the article she immediately goes to the very worst accusations she says that you know this is for all 0.78

00:22:10.780 the people that have been inundated with lies about the queen's greatness well if you're if you're

00:22:16.060 sick and tired of being inundated with lies with the queen's greatness how about you read this hill

00:22:19.660 time story where you get where it's chock full of mistruths about the british empire and about this

00:22:24.860 queen i should note as well andrew that no point in this article does erica eiffel bring up the

00:22:30.540 residential schools argument so it's a hill times story it's a canadian publication she's a canadian

00:22:35.980 herself but she's not talking about the queen's reign in canada which is odd i found to be instead

00:22:42.140 she decides to actually in a in really a disturbing in a disturbing way she decides to defend the irish

00:22:49.020 republican army who who assassinated louis mountbatten she says the irish republican army did us a solid

00:22:55.900 when they eliminated louis mountbatten who is the architect of the partition of india so she she

00:23:01.980 she immediately defends the assassination of a high-ranking member of the royal family

00:23:07.100 she says that the british empire raped their way to the colonies again no evidence to back that up

00:23:12.780 whatsoever and she basically says that uh that these people are evil um and that she has no interest at 0.88

00:23:20.060 all in in in celebrating their life um i i don't know i don't know where to go with this other than

00:23:26.060 to say this is just a a a really a disgusting article a something just chock full of of mistruths

00:23:34.220 and really of this almost it's almost really an unhinged diatribe which ventures quite close in my 0.84

00:23:41.180 opinion not to a criticism of the queen or of the monarchy but in fact of the of almost white people

00:23:46.700 because she actually says it here the same empire that initiated a calcified and calcified a political

00:23:52.060 administrative and socioeconomic structure that put white anglican christian men on top to rule over

00:23:56.780 gender class economic and racial disparities and then she writes ask yourself where would britain be

00:24:02.460 without the sugar plantation to the west indies the tea and the spices from india and they still can't

00:24:06.780 cook so it's really andrew not even necessarily a a cogent and and and detailed criticism of the

00:24:13.820 monarchy of queen elizabeth it's just this unhinged diatribe about the british and i think really of the

00:24:20.140 of larger of the people that uh are at consider themselves to be monarchists consider that consider

00:24:25.820 themselves to be royalists it's it's shocking and i can't believe the hill times even let this be

00:24:29.900 published no i mean it doesn't i mean it's the hill times like this is where i go to find out

00:24:34.780 like the boring stuff not like the crazy stuff but i do want to dive into a couple of the

00:24:41.180 i guess in the broadest sense points but i use that word very hesitantly that she she tries to

00:24:45.580 make here because most of her grievances are with colonialism itself and i mean that and that has

00:24:51.420 nothing to do with queen elizabeth the second who presided over a great period of decolonization

00:24:56.700 and also by the way british empire ended slavery before anywhere else in the world did so i think

00:25:02.140 that's an important point that oftentimes the ahistorical set forget but nevertheless talking

00:25:06.700 about queen elizabeth ii erica eiffel acknowledges that queen elizabeth ii presided over a period of

00:25:14.940 decolonization but her her criticism is that she didn't like single-handedly go in and start cracking 1.00

00:25:20.780 skulls to end apartheid when even you know people like nelson mandela and those who did work tremendously

00:25:26.300 to end apartheid in south africa do not blame britain for that they don't blame the queen the

00:25:31.980 queen so so that in and of itself is a bizarre point and then she makes this quote that supposedly

00:25:39.500 came from the queen but if it if you read the source material it's not actually clear the queen ever

00:25:45.500 said it and that's about the international civil court and acts of enslavement and i don't want to get

00:25:50.780 too down into the weeds here but she goes on further and further and further and there isn't

00:25:57.180 actually an indictment about the queen who was the monarch in a time of constitutional monarchy when

00:26:04.460 britain had a government when the commonwealth did not actually exist in the form it is in today

00:26:11.180 and i think that there is a big problem when you get people that just want to jump up and down

00:26:16.140 and it's not to say that the queen has not had her share of criticism from other people like i don't

00:26:20.060 think this is going to be the thing that like destroys the queen's legacy but i do think it's

00:26:25.100 important to note that like there is no argument to this so it's like if you're going to come out

00:26:29.420 with the hot take that you know the queen was a terrible person it would be nice to actually try

00:26:33.180 to support that thesis but you can't but you actually can't and i think that's the important

00:26:37.740 point to to note here yeah exactly and i want to just highlight this other point as you as you

00:26:41.980 mentioned she talks about how uh the british empire heavily influenced constructed an international

00:26:47.180 law at the time the slave trading countries it's the globalization of the white supremacy hustle

00:26:51.340 britain and its european brethren are the original architects of white supremacy the path of slavery 0.99

00:26:56.540 colonialism and imperialism and benign authoritarianism so my only thing as you said andrew the british

00:27:01.100 empire abolished slavery well before everyone else did and if this is how the british uh if this is how

00:27:08.700 the british empire and uh the monarchy in england are viewed then i shudder at the thought of what

00:27:13.980 erica eiffel thinks about the united states or about some of the african countries as we all know who

00:27:18.220 facilitated the at the slave trade so again if this is her criticism of uh the british royal family i

00:27:23.820 can't imagine what she has to say about the americans who took many years to abolish slavery afterward

00:27:28.700 and of course the african countries themselves who played quite a role in that slavery too yeah very well 0.97

00:27:34.620 said and we always try to end things on a bit of a lighter note especially after this one it's been

00:27:39.820 a rather heavy show uh what do you got for us today this is a sports story so i'm not even going to try

00:27:44.060 to take the lead so what a surprise guys this one comes from the cbc i know shocker and the story the

00:27:49.900 headline is toxic masculinity is part of elite hockey we need a culture shift so this story comes from this

00:27:57.100 woman alexis peters who i guess is a studies toxic masculinity in hockey or in sport very uh you know 1.00

00:28:04.380 sort of is that like you can you do a degree in that now i don't recall that is like an option when

00:28:09.340 i was picking my courses yeah well she writes about her academic credentials in this piece in fact she

00:28:14.860 alluded it in the sub headline i did my phd on this problem 23 years ago let's hope the message gets heard now

00:28:20.860 so this woman does some sort of conduct some sort of study where she has sends out a questionnaire to 1.00

00:28:26.940 i guess junior hockey players ontario junior hockey players and the results she says are well she

00:28:32.220 doesn't say this but i imagine in her thought the the results she get are she gets are horrible

00:28:37.500 sickening gross so in the article they find that these hockey players between the ages of 18 and 22

00:28:42.620 score notably higher than my control group on the hyper masculinity scale as measured by three concepts 0.85

00:28:48.380 danger as exciting violence as manly and more calloused attitudes towards sex so what a surprise

00:28:55.180 hockey players have a view danger as exciting violence as manly and more calloused attitude

00:29:00.620 towards sex quick we must cancel canada's hockey canada's sport of hockey are one of our national 0.90

00:29:06.140 institutions ridiculous and it's all it all stems andrew because we we find out at the very beginning 0.64

00:29:11.100 of this story it all stems from this i guess you could say the continuation of the story of the junior 0.95

00:29:17.340 hockey players and the sexual uh the group sexual assault accusations and the findings and the

00:29:23.420 investigations going on right now which in my opinion have been used to take to represent a few

00:29:29.340 bad apples in the game and have decided that we're going to use it as a representative of the entire

00:29:33.980 sport any young canadian who plays hockey you know is going to be tarnished with this bad brush i don't

00:29:39.100 really know why they're doing this i don't know what this whole urge to do this from the legacy media

00:29:43.260 is exactly but i think it's very clear that they do take an issue with hockey they don't like the

00:29:48.460 fact that uh it's a group where canadian men have a view danger is exciting and violence is manly i

00:29:54.700 just don't get it hockey is the one with the puck right that's right it is the one with the puck not

00:29:59.980 the one with the uh i mean look i don't pretend to be a sports guy i know like woke insanity so i guess

00:30:04.940 i can weigh in on this story slightly in our closing moments here i i think you are right harrison

00:30:10.140 they don't like the idea that this exists and they don't like the idea that there's a a legitimate

00:30:15.100 outlet for people to have a bit of aggression they don't like there's a legitimate outlet i mean it's

00:30:19.660 the same people that take aim at oh boxing and ufc and all of these other things but they don't

00:30:24.780 realize that there are biological incentives for men to engage in this sort of activity and in fact

00:30:30.380 i think we should be very grateful that as a culture we've evolved to such a point where people

00:30:34.220 can get out their aggression in safe organized controlled ways and not by you know just killing

00:30:39.420 each other in senseless battles and senseless conflicts so i agree it is absolutely horrific

00:30:44.860 what's happened to uh some people at the hands of individual bad actors and if there are organizations

00:30:51.020 that as well are bad actors then that needs to be dealt with as well but you can't just like malign

00:30:56.060 a sport and a sex because of it so uh very well said that is i think the last sport story i'm going

00:31:01.660 to do for a while i hit my quota for uh for the year so i'm good for the next uh at least until the end

00:31:06.460 of 2022 uh that does it for us you can catch harrison's show ratioed on true north every week

00:31:12.060 you can also catch my own program the andrew lawton show a few times a week as well thank you so much

00:31:17.260 thank you so much to all of you for tuning in have a great weekend and we'll talk to you soon

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Juno News - September 23, 2022

The legacy media rushes to defend Trudeau

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