Juno News - January 22, 2020


The Liberals don't want to talk about China


Episode Stats

Length

4 minutes

Words per Minute

188.081

Word Count

870

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Special committee on the Canada-China relationship is already getting underway in the House of Commons, and it's important to hear from our new ambassador to China, Dominic Barton, to give us a window into what's happening in China and how the Liberal government views it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 it's really great to see that the special committee on the Canada-China relationship
00:00:09.540 is already getting underway in the House of Commons now you'll remember that this
00:00:13.440 committee when it was first voted upon well the Liberals tried to shut it down
00:00:17.220 kind of like back during lab scam when they wanted to shut down ethics and
00:00:21.060 justice committee hearings they did not like this proposal first put forward by
00:00:25.200 conservative MP Aaron O'Toole to have a committee of all the parties to sit down
00:00:30.000 in the House of Commons and really examine the Canada-China relationship
00:00:34.140 yes the particulars of certain issues but the whole thing to take a step back and
00:00:38.820 maybe get one of those resets that a whole bunch of experts and analysts have been
00:00:43.560 urging well the Liberals they failed to shut it down because oops that's what
00:00:48.300 happens when you no longer have a majority and you're now minority government
00:00:51.960 territory and the opposition including the Bloc and the NDP they liked Aaron O'Toole's
00:00:56.880 idea they approved this committee so they had their first meeting on Monday and
00:01:01.620 as usually goes with committee meetings the first time around the first one was
00:01:05.280 relegated to talking about process and who's gonna do what and who we're gonna
00:01:09.000 invite and so forth but they did agree that they would invite our new ambassador
00:01:13.500 to China Dominic Barton bring him in and give us the lay of the land really
00:01:19.020 important to hear from him his take on what's happening that will give us a
00:01:22.980 window into perhaps what's happening in China but more likely perhaps a window
00:01:27.420 into how the Liberal government views all of this and how it can be that they
00:01:31.780 are so seemingly not approaching this in any sort of rigorous way with a formal
00:01:37.980 framework you know I urged a committee just like this to happen a number of
00:01:41.940 months ago I wrote some columns and did some commentary saying we need to do
00:01:46.180 things like they're doing in the US they have something called the committee on
00:01:49.500 the present danger that Donald Trump has only just convened to take a whole look
00:01:53.420 at China and the rising global superpower that really threatens American
00:01:58.940 dominance of the world in a number of spheres what is China doing what does China
00:02:03.680 want what is Xi Jinping saying where does he want to head his country in the
00:02:07.960 coming decades what does all of that mean for the United States what does it mean
00:02:11.660 for Canada go back and ask these rudimentary questions now back in the
00:02:16.360 1940s there was something called the Kennan telegram a American diplomat
00:02:21.060 stationed over in the Soviet realm he wrote George Kennan was his name he wrote
00:02:26.100 something now famously known as the long telegram where he said we've got to do
00:02:30.100 something like this we've got to talk about the Soviets who they are what they
00:02:34.320 want what their views are we can't just base it on our own expectations we can't
00:02:38.660 project our own values onto them we need to have a robust discussion and they did
00:02:43.600 in the Kennan telegram that played a role in informing how Washington actually got
00:02:48.120 their game together to deal with the Soviets and to think strategically about it
00:02:52.300 that's the problem here Canada's tactics are all flawed dealing with China
00:02:56.440 because our strategy is well it's actually non-existent Canadians want to have a
00:03:02.840 national conversation about this they want to open all this up and and have it so we
00:03:07.680 can all be a part of this it seems like the liberals just want to keep it all shut
00:03:11.280 some prominent former liberals they just want it to be so shut that we just
00:03:15.520 quickly do a prisoner exchange between Meng Wang Zhu and Michael Kovrig and Michael
00:03:20.640 Spavor and then be done with it and go back to those nice business deals that
00:03:24.360 were feathering some people's nests I can name one person who's made that exact
00:03:28.580 argument Eddie Goldenberg former chief of staff to Jean Chrétien he made that
00:03:33.520 argument over this past weekend in a Globe and Mail guest column unbelievable it is
00:03:38.880 unbelievable that there's serious people out there people connected to Jean
00:03:42.880 Chrétien and by the way Chrétien himself has winked at such a prisoner exchange who
00:03:47.160 would make this suggestion these are guys who seemingly don't want to acknowledge
00:03:51.200 that China is different now under Xi Jinping it is not becoming more liberal and
00:03:56.000 democratic and capitalist and all those things that people in the 1990s
00:03:59.520 projected they would be no president Xi Jinping he is really the most hardline
00:04:04.480 leader since chairman Mao that's how everybody in the know describes the guy so
00:04:09.960 there's no caving to them there's no nicey-nice try and wash all of this over
00:04:14.760 and pretend it didn't happen no we need to do with this committee and broadly in
00:04:19.140 public opinion and hopefully around the table with the liberal cabinet open up the
00:04:24.060 issue there's no putting the genie back in the bottle now and really have a full
00:04:28.100 discussion about the Canada and China relationship because our entire future
00:04:32.660 for decades to come depends on it