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- March 27, 2020
The media pushes fake news left, right and centre
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Trudeau bungles the border closure, the science is not yet settled on coronavirus,
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and at a time where we really need the truth, the media pushes fake news left,
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right and center. I'm Candace Malcolm and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
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Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning into The Candace Malcolm Show. We are back in our
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studios sort of running at half capacity. I finished my two-week self-quarantine after
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returning from California. And as I mentioned on the show before, I went and got tested for
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coronavirus and I tested negative, so it's safe to have my producer here in the room,
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but he is keeping his distance. He's six feet away, or as some Canadians like to say,
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two meters away, but he's further away. So we are keeping safe at True North and we hope that you are
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as well. So Justin Trudeau finally announced that they were closing the border after months and months
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of saying that this thing was like no big deal, saying that, you know, having flights from China
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wasn't going to make us any more a threat during this sort of Wuhan outbreak. The Trudeau government
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finally did an about-face. True North commended them for not only closing the border, but closing
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the illegal crossing at Roxham Road. That was a huge about-face sort of ideologically, not only,
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you know, the right thing to do, but it goes against the ideology that they possess. So that was the
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right thing to do. The problem is that this measure was absolutely bungled. So just on Wednesday,
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Justin Trudeau finally announced that the government was making it mandatory that people returning to
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Canada self-quarantine for 14 days. Up until then, it had just been a recommendation. It was just
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recommended that people come back. In other words, you didn't really have to do it and no one was
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monitoring and there was no enforcement measures. So we had one million Canadians and permanent residents
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returned to Canada last week. So just to paint the timeline, you know, at first we had the Trudeau
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government saying border closures don't work. Then they announced the border closure and said,
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look, all Canadians, you have to come home right now. We're in the middle of spring break in a lot
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of the countries, so families are, you know, in hot spots getting some sun and on vacation. A lot of
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people in Europe, a lot of people in Asia. Trudeau made the call saying, hey, everyone get back to Canada
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ASAP. So a million Canadians follow that advice. They get on a plane, you know, by any means
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possible. They get back to Canada. It's a huge effort to get a million Canadians abroad back
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into the country at once. And at that point, we learned that the Trudeau government wasn't even
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making it mandatory that people self-isolate and self-quarantine. So if you just think about it,
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a million people coming from all over the world, you could only imagine how many of those people
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could have been sick. I mean, it only takes a small number. It only really takes one person
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who's very sick. This disease is very contagious, as we know, and it can easily spread. So Trudeau
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said, come back. And there were no measures. We've reported this as well at True North that people
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arriving at the airport, supposedly there were enhanced measures to be tracking people who are
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ill. That wasn't the case. There was a CBC report about how sick travelers were masking their
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coronavirus symptoms to get through airport screening. You read the article and you hear about
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one woman who's coming back from Spain and she was actually tested positive for coronavirus when she
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got back. But she just was so desperate to get out of Spain. And as we know, there's a huge outbreak
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there right now. The hospitals are completely overburdened. The death toll there has now actually
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surpassed China. So things are really bad in countries like Italy, Spain, and France. And so Canadians were,
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you know, hustling to get out of there. I mean, you kind of understand and are sympathetic to this
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woman because if I was abroad, I would want to come home to Canada where it's sort of safe and
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comfortable. But at the same time, of course, she puts so many people at risk. And because Trudeau
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hadn't issued the mandate to say it is absolutely necessary, it's not just advised, but it's legally
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necessary for you to stay at home, a lot of the people that came back last week, the millions of
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Canadians, million Canadians are potentially out and about, out, you know, doing grocery shopping,
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going for a walk, doing the things that we are permitted to do under this self-isolation
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ruling. And yet, you know, the law is only going into effect as of today, as of Thursday. So anyone
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who came last week is just sort of a free for all. This is just, the government completely bungling
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this thing. Like, you know, a lot of people are giving Trudeau credit for his daily press briefings,
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for the sort of transparency they're operating, kind of giving assurances to Canadians. That's all well and
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good. But every major decision the Trudeau government has made has been like two weeks
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late or three weeks late. And at a time like this where time is of the essence and it's so vital
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to stop the spread before it happens and really contain the virus to the individuals that have it,
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Trudeau is really, really just letting us down. So now, finally, it is legally mandated. But, and I
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went into this in detail yesterday in the True North update with my co-host, Andrew Lawton, the details
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are really in the exemptions, not the rule itself. So the rule is all Canadians have to self-isolate.
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But then there's like all these exemptions, including flight attendants. So, you know, the
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people who are on the front lines that are interacting with all these passengers, all these people
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interacting one on one with every single passenger on a plane, they're not required to
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self-isolate. They should be the, in my opinion, they should be the ones that are most required to
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self-isolate. They're the people that are most at risk because they're interacting so closely with
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other people. Then there's other exemptions, including frontline workers. So if you're a
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frontline worker, an essential worker, sorry, someone who's working in essential service,
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which could potentially even be at a hospital. If you're working at a hospital, you're exempt from
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the quarantine. But come on, give me a break. Those are the people who could also potentially
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interact with other people, interact with sick people. If someone is a nurse at a hospital,
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they just returned from a vacation in Spain and they're exempt from the 14-day quarantine so they can
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go to work. But what if they're, what if they have symptoms? What if they're sick and they just haven't
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started showing symptoms? It's, it's bizarre. We're either going to take this health crisis seriously
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and have the rules being followed to a tee, or we're just kind of going to go willy-nilly,
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which is what the Trudeau government has been doing. And again, I think these exemptions really
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do make it problematic. Now, all this said, I think that it is very important. Like I said,
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I personally self-isolated at a time where it wasn't even required,
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partially because I was feeling some symptoms of the flu. But I also just thought, you know,
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not only for my own health and safety, but for my community as well, I'm going to self-isolate.
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I think it's important to follow these measures and to be overly cautious. I'd rather be overly
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cautious than utterly cautious. I personally had a whole bunch of speaking opportunities and gigs
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this spring. I was supposed to speak at the Manning Conference this weekend. I had a whole bunch of
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other speeches lined up across Canada and they've basically all been cancelled. Not basically,
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every single one of them has been cancelled. And I think that's for the better. I think at a time
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like this where there's so much uncertainty, it's better to be cautious. But I want to make this
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point very clearly. The science is not yet settled on coronavirus. It isn't something that we just all
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have a complete agreement with. You know, the way that the Trudeau government looks sort of almost
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absolves themselves of responsibility for decision making by saying, we rely on experts. We rely on the
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science. The science is what's guiding us. The experts are what's guiding us. That's all well and good.
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But there is no agreement within the scientific community on this issue, as is the case in most
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issues. But as we're seeing more and more, there are so many dissenting voices that it's really hard
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to just say, you know, there's one specific train of thought and we're following that. And so,
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you know, when you look through the science, when you look through what the quote unquote experts are
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saying, they're not all in agreement. And so I'm going to go through some of the different, some of
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the scientific voices that are not really being amplified. That, you know, that there's a specific
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train of thought, which is, this is really, really bad. The entire country, the entire society, every
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single person in the world needs to just stay at home for an indefinite amount of time. And that's sort of
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the prevailing wisdom at this point. But like I said, there is a lot, quite a bit of dissent within
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the community. So I'm going to start by talking about an individual called Michael Levitt. He is a
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Nobel laureate in chemistry, won that in 2013, and he is a Stanford biophysicist. So Mr. Levitt,
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Professor Levitt correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus
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outbreaks long before many health experts had predicted. He actually created a model and predicted
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the number of cases and the number of deaths like within a few dozen. It was really, really impressive
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what he did. So he basically says, look, we don't have all the information. We don't have perfect
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information right now. Everything is kind of messy and we're just basing it on what we know, which
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really isn't a lot. And so what he's saying is that just as he predicted that the number in China
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sort of exponentially grew, but then it kind of teetered off and it didn't continue to exponentially
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grow until it hit the whole population, it teetered off and stopped. And so he's saying that, you know,
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that's going to happen in North America. North America, we're still kind of on the upward trajectory,
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especially in the United States, places like New York City, where it's very, very dense.
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That's a problem area because this thing does spread very quickly. But he's saying, you know,
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we're close to the end. This is not the apocalyptic scenario that people are suggesting. He says,
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what we need to control is the panic. In the grand scheme, we're going to be fine.
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This is Professor Michael Levitt from Stanford University. He's not the only one from Stanford
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University saying that we're really, really overreacting here. So there was an op-ed
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in the Wall Street Journal yesterday. And I want to read through this op-ed because it's really
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interesting. And again, it shows the opposite opinion and the opposite perspective of what the
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sort of prevailing wisdom on coronaviruses. The op-ed says, is the coronavirus as deadly as they
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say? Current estimates about the COVID-19 fatality rate may be too high by orders of magnitude.
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Okay. So this is also written by two professors at Stanford University. They say,
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if it's true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter in place orders and
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quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country
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are surely justified. But there's little evidence to confirm that premise. And projections of the
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death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high. So what these two professors do is they
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say, look, we don't really have a correct control group. It's really hard to estimate how many people
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die from this disease because we don't know all the people who actually have it. Like potentially,
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there could be tens of thousands or millions of people out there who have coronavirus, but because
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their symptoms are so mild, they're not showing any symptoms and they kind of just get better on
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their own. So they never get tested and they're not part of that number. So if we say like, for
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instance, you know, there's a hundred people that test positive for coronavirus and 10 of them die,
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it's really easy to say that the death rate would be 10%. But what the professors are really trying to
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say is that it's not really a hundred people that have coronavirus, it's more like 10,000. And then the 10
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people die and you look at it that way and the percentage becomes much, much lower, a fraction of a percent.
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And this thing is only really as deadly as the common flu. And so they're saying, because there's
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not testing, because we don't really know how many people have it and aren't really affected by it,
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it's hard to say what the death rate is. So they look at a couple of population samples,
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they look at China, Italy, Iceland, and then they also look at the Diamond Princess Cruise. And they
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basically come to the conclusion that the death rate, oh, sorry. And they also look at the NBA players.
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And they basically come to the conclusion that based on those different sample groups, the death
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rate is much, much, much lower. So yes, coronavirus does massively increase your risk at death if you
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get it. But so few people have that sort of very, very deadly stream that it means that the mortality
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rate is much, much lower essentially. So that's this point. Again, you know, these are scientists,
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these are experts as well, but they're not being included in the sort of mainstream idea of how we
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should react to this. There's so many more examples. So the University of Toronto in Canada,
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one doctor predicted in early March that exaggerated reactions by the public about coronavirus will end up
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being worse than the disease itself. He says, I'm scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with
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anyone who thinks they probably have it, but then so they might as well go get checked out no matter
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what, because you never know. A McGill researcher also says the public should not mistake coronavirus
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spread for being particularly deadly. So his point is that like, you know, the spread is very contagious
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and it does spread very rapidly, but that's not the same thing as it being very deadly. We still don't
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know, like I talked about earlier, we don't know the exact mortality rate because we don't know who
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has it. And so he's saying, you know, people conflate the two just because it spreads really quickly
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does not, is not necessarily an indication of how dangerous it is. I could go on and on and on. So
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again, I think we should be very cautious of just saying simply, you know, we're going to rely on
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scientists and experts to guide our public policy here, because of course there's, you know, so many
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different opinions and voices in the scientific community. And so for Trudeau to sort of rest on
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that just shows his lack of leadership and his inability to be a leader. Another problem I have
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is that, again, you're so overemphasizing the worst case scenario. So an official at the Trudeau,
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every day that Justin Trudeau gives a briefing, and then the sort of ministers are in charge of the
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coronavirus response team also give a briefing on sort of all the different things that they're working on.
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And one of the officials yesterday said, look, when we're talking about the self-isolation,
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the self-quarantine, and dealing with coronavirus, we're not talking about days,
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we're not talking about weeks, we're talking about months. So months of this sort of shelter
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in place orders, quarantine, self-isolation. You just can't even imagine. I went into this in some
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detail in my show on Tuesday. The economic outcome of that kind of decision making is just catastrophic.
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And I think, again, it has to be weighed with the public health concerns. I'm not saying
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that the public health concerns should be ignored. No. But we should also consider that massive,
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massive economic collapse and burden that will happen if we really have to follow these orders
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for months. I also just don't think that Canadians will abide by that. I think that that's the point
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where you're going to get a lot of people just saying, you know, forget it. I don't care what the
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government says. I live in a free society. I'm going to go out for a walk. I'm going to go to the park.
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You can't force me to stay in my house in a free society. And that's when you're going to get the
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sort of civil unrest. And just by contrast, Donald Trump, who's getting lots and lots of criticism
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for optimistically saying, look, I hope this is over by Easter so people can go about their lives
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this spring. You know, he's getting condemned by that. But he literally said the opposite. He said,
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look, we're talking about weeks here and not months, trying to give assurances to the economy
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and to the people that, you know, things are going to get better. Don't let's not take the worst case
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scenario here. So unfortunately, I think the Canadian government is taking the wrong approach
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being overly draconian now when they were overly lax for the last three months, in my opinion.
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And so in the midst of all of this yesterday, the Liberal government sort of quietly announced
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another media bailout. It was really kind of jaw dropping. Justin Trudeau in the middle of his
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briefing just sort of said, you know, and because it's a hard time for media, we're going to announce
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new measures to support the media. Well, in a free society, we rely on a free press, a free and
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independent press, not one that is bought and paid for by the federal government and by a political party
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running the federal government, the Liberal Party. And yet liberals pat themselves on the back and
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celebrate the fact that they're giving money out to journalists. So we later heard the details about
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that. Liberal government announced it would be giving media companies $30 million in taxpayer dollars
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as part of its national coronavirus awareness campaign. The federal government will be purchasing
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advertisements on traditional and digital media platforms to inform the public about the pandemic.
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It's crucial that Canadians can obtain authoritative, well-sourced and factual information related to COVID-19.
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This is why the government of Canada is taking immediate action so Canadians can continue to
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access diverse and reliable news sources, said the Heritage Minister. So, hmm, interesting. So I guess at a
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time when advertisers aren't advertising in the media, the government sees it as a priority to sort of
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shovel them a bunch of cash. Of course, it will only go to the media outlets that they approve of,
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that they like, which, as we know, does not include media outlets like True North. The government still
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refuses to recognize us as a media organization. And we actually took them to court. We took them to
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court during the last federal election for a right to report, to stand up for press freedom in Canada.
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We won. We got an emergency injunction. A judge ordered that the Trudeau government had to let us
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go and report and be allowed to be reporters at the election debate. The Trudeau government is still
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wanting to pick winners and losers. And this is just the latest example. You know that it's going to go to
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the CBC. You know that the CBC is sort of the golden child and the chosen one for the Trudeau
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liberals. How could you not? They're always running interference for the Trudeau liberals.
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They're always kind of distracting from the real issue at a time where, again, Trudeau has bungled
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the response of keeping Canadians safe and acting quickly and swiftly to ensure that the coronavirus
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doesn't spread throughout Canada. Trudeau has been weeks and weeks late and slow and messing
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things up left, right and center. So rely on the CBC to come in and change the entire narrative to
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bash Trump instead. CBC will always rather bash Trump and talk about Trump, even though they're
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the Canadian broadcaster. They're supposed to be reporting on the Canadian news. If Canadians want
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to watch the media bash Trump, all they have to do is turn on any number of news channels in the United
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States. CNN runs, you know, 24-7 Trump bashing. So why do we have to have a Canadian voice doing that same
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thing instead of looking at the Canadian stories? Well, here's a fake news of the week. We have the
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CBC runs a story blaming Donald Trump for the death of a man who literally ingested fish tank cleaner.
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This is a wild story. This is a wild story. So on Monday, a man from Arizona sadly died
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after he and his wife consumed aquarium cleaner that contained chloroquine. Basically, Donald Trump has
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been doing these briefings as well. He's, again, trying to paint a rosy picture, trying to be as
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optimistic as he can in this sort of time of basically, I mean, he's been calling himself a
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wartime president. This is basically, you know, the world at war against this virus and it's having a
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similar kind of economic impact as war would have, devastating the economy. So Trump's trying to be
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optimistic. He went out and he sort of touted a couple of treatments that are being tried. And he,
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you know, he said there's a couple treatments that have been out there that have had some success.
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One of the examples that he gave was hydrochloroquine, which is a malaria drug or an anti-malaria
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medication. And so Trump touted this as well as two other drugs as being potential game changers in
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the fight against coronavirus. So this couple in Arizona, I guess they heard Trump saying
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chloroquine is something that is helping people who have coronavirus. This couple didn't have any
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symptoms. They don't have coronavirus. They didn't have coronavirus, but they were paranoid. They were
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scared, which you could blame just as much as the media sort of fear mongering and hypering this up
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as you could on the president. But regardless, they were looking, the woman was looking through her
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cupboard and she found some fish tank cleaner, aquarium cleaner. She read on the label, it said
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chloroquine. She decided, you know what, I'm going to, I'm going to consume this. I'm going to drink this
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because Donald Trump told me to. She mixed it with some water. Her and her husband ingested it. So this is
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like a homemade cocktail of cleaning solution that she found. I mean, you'd have to be so insane and
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I'm sorry, so stupid to drink something like that. This couple did. Sadly, the man passed away. The
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woman vomited it up. And so she was in critical condition, but she didn't. Of course, NBC ran there
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and put a microphone in her face. And so she said, you know, don't listen to Trump. Trump told me to do
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this and don't listen to Trump. Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure. Don't take
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anything. Don't believe anything. Don't believe anything that the president says, call your doctor.
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Well, that would be good advice to everyone. You know, don't just start taking homemade cocktails of
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random stuff in your cleaning cupboard, thinking that that will prevent you from getting coronavirus. No,
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chloroquine needs to be prescribed by a doctor. And it's not just something that you can create a
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homemade version of in your laundry room. And so, again, this is just a story of basically people
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acting very recklessly in a chaotic situation. The media, of course, run and decide to blame this all,
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of course, on Donald Trump. This is just such a dishonest take by the media. We saw it in the U.S.
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And then they sort of backed off of it because it was just so brazen. But you trust the CBC to repeat
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every single type of Trump derangement. So they had this headline from CBC News Alerts,
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Arizona man dead, woman in critical condition after ingesting chemical touted by U.S. President Donald Trump
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as potential COVID-19 treatment. Don't believe anything the president says, woman tells NBC,
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call your doctor. The only problem is Trump didn't tout this particular drug as a cure for COVID-19
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or treatment. He said that the doctors are having some luck with using this in combination with
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antibiotics and that it made him feel optimistic. He by no means told people to go and ingest a homemade
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cocktail of random stuff. So this is pretty dishonest even for the CBC. So that gets this week in
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fake news. So once again, instead of informing Canadians with the truth and keeping us well
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informed, the CBC instead goes and runs towards Trump derangement syndrome and pushing fake news.
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They would rather tell a story about how Trump is wrong and how Trump potentially killed someone
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than report the truth, which is that chloroquine is actually is having positive effects. There's been
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plenty of doctors and plenty of experts, again, out there saying this is potentially something that will
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help people with coronavirus, but the media is so deranged that they can't even see that.
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Okay, I am going to leave it at that. Thank you so much for tuning in. Don't forget to check out
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True North Update, which is a daily show I've been doing with Andrew Lawton, where we go through all
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the latest with the coronavirus here in Canada and around the world, and we sort of pick apart what
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Trudeau and his ministers say after their daily briefing every day. So check that out. Thank you so
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much for tuning in and we will be back again next week. I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
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