Juno News - November 18, 2022


The media rushes to defend Trudeau’s latest international blunder


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

188.28194

Word Count

5,177

Sentence Count

219

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to another exciting, at least I hope it is exciting, edition of Fake News Friday
00:00:16.480 on this Friday, November 18th. Just how many weeks until Christmas now? I don't want to get
00:00:22.700 people too nervous. I think we're five Fake News Fridays away from Christmas, so take from that
00:00:27.520 what you will. Hopefully you can make it to the end of the episode before you rush out to the toy store
00:00:31.820 to buy whatever you need, but it's been a bit of a busy week. The Public Order Emergency Commission
00:00:37.160 has concluded. We've had foreign junkets a go-go for Justin Trudeau, but how was the week in your
00:00:43.700 view, Harrison? Another one for the records? Well, the problem with the Public Order Emergency
00:00:47.980 Commission, Andrew, the Emergencies Act inquiry, is that when there's not a good, exciting witness,
00:00:52.580 it really is boring to get through. It's very repetitive, very slow. But then when Justin Trudeau
00:00:58.400 gets humiliated by Xi Jinping, the entire world erupts, the story dominates headlines, and basically
00:01:04.900 it has given us plenty of fodder for Fake News Friday. So I'm quite looking forward to getting
00:01:10.020 into some of the reactions, the comparisons between Canadian headlines, international headlines.
00:01:14.780 And yeah, I mean, when you see that, it just, it kind of reminds you exactly where Canada is in the
00:01:19.620 pecking order. And frankly, how the rest of the world looks at Canada, it's quite disappointing,
00:01:24.200 but for us, at least, it gives us something fun to talk about. I was just like asking,
00:01:28.540 how are you? And you just went into like this, like grand treatise on Canada and the world,
00:01:33.160 which is good. We're getting down to brass tacks here. No, it's great. I was about to give you the
00:01:39.000 Sir, This is a Wendy's, but I actually liked what you had to say. So I rolled with it here.
00:01:43.180 Let's get right into it, though, because the big news this week was, of course,
00:01:46.800 the lecture, if you will, perhaps the dressing down, depending on how you refer to it,
00:01:53.260 of Justin Trudeau by Chairman Xi Jinping.
00:01:56.440 Everything we discussed has been leaked to the Pesach, that's not appropriate.
00:02:03.760 And that's not how the way the conversation was conducted.
00:02:09.040 If there is sincerity of your heart,
00:02:09.660 In Canada, we believe in free and open and frank dialogue, and that is what we will continue to have.
00:02:25.460 We will continue to look to work constructively together, but there will be things we will disagree on.
00:02:30.400 A little bit of an awkward one. They seem to be at one of those events
00:02:54.240 where you're just supposed to be glad-handing, shaking hands, saying,
00:02:56.960 Oh, have you tried this shrimp yet? Oh, that lobster roll was great.
00:03:00.400 And instead, Chairman Xi is telling Trudeau that he doesn't like the fact that news was leaked
00:03:05.500 of what they discussed in their meeting.
00:03:08.060 Now, so far as I can tell, what he's referring to is the call summary
00:03:12.300 that the Prime Minister's office sends out after pretty much every bilateral conversation.
00:03:17.520 So I don't know if he's talking about anything else beyond that that I haven't seen.
00:03:22.640 But the reality is this is not exactly a stellar direction diplomatically between two countries.
00:03:30.460 Now, I am not going to, as I said on my show yesterday, take Chairman Xi's side just to own the libs.
00:03:35.740 I think that Canada should be taking a tougher position on China and should be getting under their skin.
00:03:41.280 But what's bugged me here is the fact that Chairman Xi is doing this
00:03:45.220 because he sees a weakness in Canada.
00:03:48.440 And I don't think Canada is doing anything to push back against this.
00:03:52.300 And I just want to give you a sense, first off, of how the media has covered this.
00:03:57.960 Because in Canada, this has played very differently than it has in media elsewhere.
00:04:04.000 CTV has a headline,
00:04:05.720 Berated and Agitated.
00:04:07.240 What's being said about Trudeau's G20 exchange with Chinese President Xi?
00:04:11.860 And they say, oh, Xi expressed his displeasure with Trudeau over details of what the pair discussed
00:04:17.920 in a brief meeting this week being leaked.
00:04:20.940 And then you also have the CNN version of it, which I find quite interesting.
00:04:25.980 China's Xi Jinping lectures Justin Trudeau over alleged leaks.
00:04:31.080 So a little bit more of a tougher position on this from the international press.
00:04:35.560 Well, this is exactly what you get, Andrew, when you pay off the media.
00:04:38.940 What you've kind of got here is a bit of a mirroring act.
00:04:41.800 You've got Canadian legacy media who are essentially paid off by Justin Trudeau
00:04:45.880 and puff Justin Trudeau up as though he's some great world leader
00:04:48.880 doing some sort of mirroring act of their Chinese counterparts,
00:04:53.740 the Chinese propaganda outlets.
00:04:56.140 And I just find that funny because on Ratioed,
00:04:58.280 we discussed some of the differences between international headlines and Canadian headlines.
00:05:02.900 And I also, I made this point that whenever there's a China-related story,
00:05:05.960 it's always fun to go and check out what the Chinese propaganda outlets are saying.
00:05:09.940 What is the South China Morning Post saying about it?
00:05:12.700 What is the Global Times saying about it?
00:05:14.760 And yeah, I mean, basically, it's exactly that.
00:05:17.100 It's this idea that we need to basically just pretend as though Justin Trudeau is this strong world leader.
00:05:23.180 No matter what the rest of the world is saying,
00:05:24.700 no matter what the English press and the American press are saying about Justin Trudeau,
00:05:29.360 we have to make sure that Justin Trudeau looks like a strong leader
00:05:32.160 in an interaction which clearly makes him look very weak.
00:05:36.320 I mean, when I first saw it, I have to say my first interaction was
00:05:39.580 you kind of see Xi Jinping not even really looking at Trudeau in the eyes
00:05:43.220 and you see Justin Trudeau kind of standing there.
00:05:45.780 But then when you watch it again, you watch it a few more times,
00:05:48.360 you really see that there's one man in charge and one man basically taking all the heat.
00:05:53.000 And Justin Trudeau is doing that weird finger-holding posture,
00:05:56.040 bowing his head to Xi Jinping.
00:05:57.300 And then at the end, Xi Jinping gives him like the handshake to say,
00:06:00.800 get lost, get out of here.
00:06:01.940 And Justin Trudeau scurries off away into the bathroom.
00:06:04.520 I mean, the look couldn't be worse.
00:06:06.160 It really didn't look good on Justin Trudeau's part.
00:06:09.640 And I have to say there was one headline that I read from the UK,
00:06:13.940 from the Mirror, that I just thought really kind of paints the picture
00:06:17.900 of the difference between Canadian legacy media,
00:06:20.620 legacy media that is bought off by Trudeau to basically propagandize on his behalf,
00:06:24.540 and then the rest of the world.
00:06:25.520 This is the way the Mirror wrote it.
00:06:27.420 Xi Jinping humiliates Justin Trudeau in devastating public dressing down.
00:06:31.860 So absolutely, the contrast couldn't be clearer, Andrew.
00:06:36.140 This is what you get when you pay off the media.
00:06:37.640 You get puffed up headlines no matter what happens,
00:06:39.920 no matter how bad you look on camera.
00:06:42.060 Yeah, I mean, the one that really annoyed me was the Toronto Star op-ed.
00:06:46.960 Xi Jinping's scolding shows that Justin Trudeau is doing his job.
00:06:51.760 So he's actually the real winner of this.
00:06:53.820 Now, that was written by Susan Delacorte, who I disagree with on a lot politically,
00:06:58.120 but I always have enjoyed my chats with Susan.
00:07:00.880 She's a lovely woman.
00:07:02.420 I don't think she's...
00:07:03.540 I can't agree with her conclusion on this one,
00:07:05.620 because the whole point of if you are going to get under China's skin
00:07:09.600 is that there's a difference between doing it in a way that is constructive
00:07:13.880 and doing it in a way that's not.
00:07:15.840 I don't think he was getting under China's skin in any meaningful way.
00:07:19.220 I think he was like a little gnat that Xi Jinping wanted to swat away.
00:07:23.480 And that, I think, is not exactly putting Canada on strong footing
00:07:27.020 when they're going toe-to-toe and taking on the Politburo.
00:07:30.960 And the reason I think this is quite important for people to pay attention to here
00:07:35.380 is because whenever there is like a G20 summit,
00:07:40.160 you see kind of the battle lines be redrawn a little bit.
00:07:43.680 And then when you're at UN summits, all of a sudden the tough talk on China
00:07:47.240 goes to the back burner because, oh, well, there are partners in climate.
00:07:50.420 And it was like John Kerry shaking Maduro's hand at the Sharm el-Sheikh,
00:07:55.520 at COP27 and Sharm el-Sheikh.
00:07:56.980 Yeah, this guy was like, you know, the grand dictator that we don't recognize as the leader.
00:08:00.800 But, oh, if he says he wants to drop CO2 emissions, yeah, welcome aboard, sir.
00:08:04.480 Good to see you.
00:08:05.560 And I think that's the problem,
00:08:06.820 is that Justin Trudeau just wants to be in the club internationally.
00:08:09.860 And I don't think he's doing a very good job at holding China to account.
00:08:15.400 And it's not even like his appeasement has done all that much for us.
00:08:18.880 No, not at all.
00:08:19.560 And there is something to be said about the fact that at this point,
00:08:23.300 if you're a Canadian leader and you're not standing up for Canada
00:08:26.480 and you're not making it very clear that the way that China is engaging in this country,
00:08:30.740 the way that they're meddling,
00:08:32.000 they're putting spies in Canadian energy companies like at Hydro-Quebec,
00:08:35.160 where they're funding 11 candidates in our elections and trying to interfere in our government.
00:08:40.700 You have to stand up to that.
00:08:41.960 You have to draw a line and say, enough is enough.
00:08:44.720 But then again, you don't want to be caught out being embarrassed and humiliated.
00:08:48.060 It's like the old saying, Andrew, never meet your heroes.
00:08:50.320 Because sometimes you might get exposed to it.
00:08:51.940 But in this case, Justin Trudeau met his hero.
00:08:54.160 And in fact, he was humiliated and ashamed by Xi Jinping.
00:08:57.380 Yep, from hero to giro.
00:09:00.000 I'll keep my day job.
00:09:01.380 Never mind.
00:09:02.080 There we go.
00:09:02.500 But Andrew, another thing that's worth mentioning is the fact that Xi Jinping has sort of
00:09:07.060 stepped out of character at this G20.
00:09:09.780 Xi Jinping has been holding meetings with a bunch of these world leaders.
00:09:12.700 Of course, he did a big meeting with Joe Biden.
00:09:14.780 He met with Emmanuel Macron.
00:09:16.260 I think he met with Rishi Sunak as well.
00:09:18.300 But interestingly, he didn't offer that same meeting to Canada.
00:09:22.240 We know that the Canada-China relations are pretty bad right now.
00:09:24.980 But he did, however, have time to meet with the Argentinian president.
00:09:28.200 I made the point that the fact is,
00:09:29.600 if Justin Trudeau can't get a meeting with Xi Jinping,
00:09:32.160 but Xi Jinping wants to meet with the Argentinian president,
00:09:34.540 that speaks volumes about where Canada is right now and the way the world sees Canada.
00:09:39.120 And yeah, I mean, if you just look at that interaction,
00:09:41.980 Xi Jinping is looking down at Justin Trudeau,
00:09:44.080 wanting to get out of the conversation because it's not even worth his time.
00:09:47.220 But at the same point,
00:09:48.480 the point does stand that if Justin Trudeau is not standing up to China,
00:09:51.620 if Justin Trudeau is not saying enough is enough,
00:09:53.860 this is completely unacceptable,
00:09:55.660 then in a way he really isn't doing his job.
00:09:57.980 But there's ways to do it and there's ways not to do it.
00:10:00.040 And I think we basically saw exactly how not to do it.
00:10:03.140 And it's pretty embarrassing for Justin Trudeau, I have to say.
00:10:05.820 The one thing, just before we move on from this, that I found amusing,
00:10:09.440 there was a fair bit of Zapruder-like analysis on this
00:10:12.440 and how Justin Trudeau started talking
00:10:14.640 as the translator hadn't even translated what Xi had said.
00:10:19.040 Now, it's possible that Justin Trudeau speaks Mandarin.
00:10:21.060 And I have no evidence of this.
00:10:22.620 So I'm going to assume, though, he didn't know what the guy had said.
00:10:26.280 And he just like went right to talking points anyway.
00:10:28.800 That was the great thing.
00:10:30.400 So it's like he's just like, no matter what he says,
00:10:33.460 the talking points are going to be the same.
00:10:35.000 So might as well just cut out the translation
00:10:37.020 and speak only in talking points.
00:10:39.580 It'll be a lot more efficient.
00:10:41.420 Let's move on here to another development
00:10:44.300 on the global scene this past week.
00:10:47.140 As I mentioned, there was the junket in Cambodia.
00:10:50.040 Then there was the G20 in Bali.
00:10:52.860 So lots happening this week.
00:10:54.740 And then, of course, we had news on the Ukraine front.
00:10:58.300 But I want to talk about the G20 takeaway here,
00:11:02.020 which if you ask CTV,
00:11:05.700 all of the 20 most powerful world leaders got together.
00:11:10.040 People like Chairman Xi, people like Chancellor Olaf Scholz,
00:11:13.660 people like Rishi Sunak,
00:11:15.480 the president of the European Commission.
00:11:17.540 And all of these people with massive economies,
00:11:20.160 they got together.
00:11:21.200 And at the end of it, what did they do?
00:11:23.960 They ended the summit with pledges aligned
00:11:26.620 with the Trudeau government's agenda.
00:11:29.940 Hmm.
00:11:31.180 Maybe we've been getting it all wrong.
00:11:33.220 Maybe it's not the UN pulling the strings.
00:11:35.240 It's not Klaus Schwab pulling the strings.
00:11:37.140 Maybe Justin Trudeau is the puppet master
00:11:39.480 behind the new world order.
00:11:41.920 Do you buy into this?
00:11:43.120 That all of these people,
00:11:44.320 that they magically came around
00:11:45.900 to Justin Trudeau's position by the end of this meeting?
00:11:48.900 Yes.
00:11:49.200 After Justin Trudeau's humiliation from Xi Jinping,
00:11:52.200 all these world leaders, Andrew,
00:11:53.880 they wanted to make...
00:11:54.580 Including Xi Jinping, by the way.
00:11:55.940 He's one of the G20.
00:11:57.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:11:57.240 So, yes, Xi Jinping has aligned China
00:11:59.540 with Canada and Justin Trudeau's mission
00:12:01.520 because they all say to themselves,
00:12:03.340 now, what is Justin doing?
00:12:04.500 We have to make sure that the sun we all orbit around,
00:12:07.360 Justin Trudeau,
00:12:08.600 whatever he's doing,
00:12:09.440 we better not be out of step
00:12:10.880 with the great, powerful Canada.
00:12:12.640 We all know that's exactly what needs to be done.
00:12:14.360 Now, very conspicuously, Andrew,
00:12:16.500 this article from CTV came out
00:12:18.840 right after the world was laughing at Justin Trudeau.
00:12:22.020 The world was dunking on Justin Trudeau
00:12:23.760 for that embarrassing performance.
00:12:24.940 It's almost as if, Andrew,
00:12:26.320 Justin Trudeau's ego was so badly hurt,
00:12:28.280 so badly damaged by being embarrassed
00:12:29.900 in front of the world
00:12:30.620 that the legacy media needed to puff him up a little bit,
00:12:33.420 give him a little victory,
00:12:35.220 something that he can take home to Canada
00:12:36.700 and say, look, guys,
00:12:37.600 the rest of the world,
00:12:38.580 they're orbiting around Canada.
00:12:39.880 They want to make sure they're in line with us.
00:12:42.220 And the best part about this is,
00:12:43.900 you read the article,
00:12:45.120 there's no mention about that at all.
00:12:46.980 They just say that the rest of the world
00:12:48.960 are basically talking about
00:12:51.080 the same thing Justin Trudeau is talking about,
00:12:52.800 not aligning their agendas with Justin Trudeau.
00:12:55.300 It's classic, classic Canadian legacy media,
00:12:58.100 and it 100% deserves a spot on the show.
00:13:01.680 No, yeah, this is like,
00:13:03.080 you know, I got a coffee this morning
00:13:05.200 and around the world,
00:13:07.300 people have drank Andrew Lawton's
00:13:09.640 chosen breakfast beverage for the morning.
00:13:12.640 And it's like, oh, wow, yeah,
00:13:13.540 I'm fairly influential.
00:13:14.980 I have a coffee, everyone else does.
00:13:16.400 It's like the epitome of just seeing
00:13:18.520 where everyone's going
00:13:19.380 so you can like get in front of them to lead them.
00:13:21.720 Yeah, and also when you look at the article,
00:13:23.860 what's hilarious about it
00:13:24.840 is you read the article,
00:13:25.960 you open it up,
00:13:26.580 you see the headline,
00:13:27.220 you think, okay,
00:13:27.680 well, maybe there's something,
00:13:28.900 maybe we've got this all wrong,
00:13:29.880 like you said.
00:13:30.820 And then the very top video in the article
00:13:32.800 is the video of Xi Jinping
00:13:34.440 dressing down Justin Trudeau.
00:13:36.300 Like they have that right below the headline,
00:13:40.000 which says basically the Justin Trudeau
00:13:42.460 is the sun that the rest of the world orbits around.
00:13:44.820 And you look at it,
00:13:45.860 again, you look at the article,
00:13:47.080 there's not one mention, Andrew,
00:13:49.000 of the fact that the rest of the world,
00:13:50.600 you know, has Rishi Sunak pledged
00:13:52.400 to be just like Canada?
00:13:53.820 Has Emmanuel Macron pledged
00:13:55.540 to be just like Canada?
00:13:56.760 No, in fact,
00:13:57.460 all they're talking about
00:13:58.300 is that the Ukraine-Poland-Russia
00:14:01.640 missile conversation.
00:14:04.000 That's basically all that this is about.
00:14:06.040 And it's so obvious.
00:14:07.080 They said,
00:14:07.740 look, we can't allow our dear leader
00:14:09.220 to be hit so badly,
00:14:11.040 to be hurt so bad
00:14:12.500 after his horrible performance at the G20.
00:14:14.640 We have to give him something to take home.
00:14:17.160 We have to give him something
00:14:17.980 to write home about,
00:14:18.980 about his victory.
00:14:20.020 And pretty pathetic,
00:14:21.440 I have to say.
00:14:22.640 Yeah, it reminds me of that great story
00:14:24.980 in Bloomberg around the time
00:14:26.460 of one of the G7s,
00:14:27.760 I can't remember,
00:14:28.300 it was two years ago or so,
00:14:29.980 when Justin Trudeau's staffers
00:14:32.500 have been like going around
00:14:33.580 telling everyone
00:14:34.480 that with Angela Merkel resigning,
00:14:37.080 Justin Trudeau is going to be
00:14:37.960 the new dean of the G7.
00:14:39.840 And everyone was like,
00:14:40.980 yeah, yeah, we're good.
00:14:41.740 We're good, but thank you.
00:14:43.120 So, but on the G20,
00:14:44.580 he's managed apparently
00:14:45.600 to bring the whole thing into it.
00:14:48.300 And he has also started
00:14:49.500 a brewing buddy comedy style bromance
00:14:52.760 with the new Prime Minister
00:14:54.640 of the United Kingdom,
00:14:55.680 Rishi Sunak.
00:14:56.600 Now, the two of them
00:14:58.040 have apparently been hitting it off.
00:14:59.920 There was this photo of them
00:15:00.960 having a nice little dinner
00:15:02.340 in a casual eatery.
00:15:03.860 And then there was this video
00:15:05.200 where the two of them
00:15:06.000 expressed their support
00:15:07.160 to the Ukrainian President,
00:15:09.480 Volodymyr Zelensky.
00:15:11.060 Prime Minister Trudeau,
00:15:12.260 Prime Minister Sunak,
00:15:13.400 President Zelensky,
00:15:14.200 please go ahead,
00:15:14.860 you're online.
00:15:15.940 Hello, Volodymyr.
00:15:17.280 It's Rishi and Justin.
00:15:18.500 I really wanted you
00:15:19.880 to hear from us as friends.
00:15:21.800 We absolutely know
00:15:22.660 how difficult yesterday was.
00:15:24.700 It was horrific for you
00:15:26.080 and your country.
00:15:27.500 And we have called it out
00:15:29.980 in the session that we've just had
00:15:32.360 and on the media here this morning.
00:15:34.860 And we made that point
00:15:36.080 loud and clear
00:15:36.900 to everyone who was here
00:15:39.420 that what your country
00:15:41.160 had to live through yesterday
00:15:42.520 was unacceptable
00:15:43.300 and represented yet more
00:15:46.240 barbarity from the Russians.
00:15:49.240 We stood united
00:15:50.040 in condemning it.
00:15:51.440 Rishi and I really wanted
00:15:52.500 to reach out
00:15:53.320 to reassure you,
00:15:54.740 to show you
00:15:55.380 we're standing with you
00:15:56.460 and to say
00:15:57.460 we're going to figure out
00:15:59.360 this step by step
00:16:00.860 all together.
00:16:01.620 Thank you, Volodymyr.
00:16:02.580 Talk to you soon.
00:16:03.240 Now, just before we get into
00:16:06.100 just how cringeworthy that was,
00:16:08.920 let me say how bizarre
00:16:10.320 I find it
00:16:11.260 that they're sharing
00:16:12.540 this conversation
00:16:13.660 that took place
00:16:15.580 between them and Zelensky
00:16:16.700 and not heard anywhere
00:16:18.260 is Zelensky.
00:16:19.380 So it's like
00:16:19.960 they could just be talking
00:16:21.120 into a voice memo
00:16:21.980 on their phone
00:16:22.620 for all I know.
00:16:23.640 Well, it wouldn't be
00:16:24.260 that surprising, right, Andrew,
00:16:25.460 if the drama teacher
00:16:26.340 was just making it all up,
00:16:27.760 if it was all just a big skit.
00:16:28.980 But I've got to say
00:16:29.820 the best part about that
00:16:30.780 is the accent
00:16:31.520 that Justin Trudeau
00:16:32.300 puts on,
00:16:32.840 the Ukrainian accent
00:16:34.220 when he says,
00:16:35.080 hello, Volodymyr,
00:16:36.440 it's Rishi and Justin.
00:16:38.060 And then it's like
00:16:40.600 one of those bad editing jobs.
00:16:42.140 Like when you've got
00:16:42.640 like a bad intern
00:16:44.240 trying to put together
00:16:45.000 a quick video
00:16:45.640 for their boss,
00:16:46.940 like a quickly edited
00:16:48.140 jump cut full video
00:16:49.380 where they basically say,
00:16:50.820 we're here to talk to you.
00:16:52.100 And then they cut in
00:16:52.780 as friends
00:16:53.680 and then they cut back.
00:16:54.700 They had to cut the part
00:16:55.840 as friends in there.
00:16:57.100 It's from start to finish.
00:16:58.640 It is an absolute joke.
00:17:00.520 I wrote on Twitter,
00:17:01.360 how is this actually real?
00:17:02.800 And again,
00:17:03.360 this has to get through
00:17:04.320 enough people
00:17:05.020 for it to be put out
00:17:06.380 and published
00:17:06.900 by 10 Downing Street,
00:17:08.360 the official UK
00:17:09.720 Prime Minister
00:17:10.380 Twitter account
00:17:12.120 as some sort of video
00:17:13.240 to say,
00:17:13.680 look at these two
00:17:14.360 strong world leaders
00:17:15.340 talking to Vladimir Zelensky
00:17:17.000 using a fake accent
00:17:18.440 to talk to Vladimir Zelensky.
00:17:20.080 But don't,
00:17:20.660 make sure you don't hear
00:17:21.300 anything that Zelensky
00:17:22.020 has to say.
00:17:22.620 There's not like,
00:17:23.320 oh, thanks for calling guys.
00:17:24.560 Really appreciate it.
00:17:25.480 Thanks for calling friends.
00:17:26.760 None of that.
00:17:27.360 Just the,
00:17:27.820 just the absolute cringe fest.
00:17:29.880 You need to start
00:17:31.020 doing the Trudeau accent
00:17:32.060 so you don't call him Vladimir.
00:17:33.440 It's Volodymyr.
00:17:34.680 Volodymyr.
00:17:35.240 Volodymyr.
00:17:36.080 Zelensky.
00:17:36.660 As friends.
00:17:38.900 We're your friends.
00:17:39.820 And that,
00:17:40.140 by the way,
00:17:40.540 that was not me
00:17:41.140 making fun of
00:17:41.840 Volodymyr Zelensky's accent.
00:17:43.160 That was me making fun
00:17:44.120 of the fake
00:17:44.840 Justin Trudeau accent
00:17:46.240 just so no one
00:17:46.880 like accuses me
00:17:47.600 of Ukraine-ophobia
00:17:49.020 or anything like that.
00:17:50.640 No, no,
00:17:51.000 of course not.
00:17:51.600 Of course not.
00:17:53.020 Let's,
00:17:53.620 do we want to end
00:17:54.300 on our lighter note?
00:17:55.100 I'm trying to remember
00:17:55.580 what else we had
00:17:56.120 going on today.
00:17:56.980 Let's do,
00:17:57.540 let's do the POEC,
00:17:58.800 the Toronto Star headline
00:18:00.600 for what we're missing
00:18:02.020 from the Public Order
00:18:03.220 Emergency Commission.
00:18:04.000 You've heard a lot
00:18:04.620 but we're missing something
00:18:05.700 really key,
00:18:06.880 Andrew,
00:18:07.440 in the Emergencies Act Committee
00:18:08.840 and apparently
00:18:09.800 from the Toronto Star.
00:18:11.540 What we're missing
00:18:12.280 from the Emergencies Act Committee
00:18:13.540 is the fact that
00:18:14.880 racism and hatred
00:18:16.440 are not being discussed
00:18:17.880 as threats
00:18:18.800 to national security.
00:18:20.400 Interesting.
00:18:21.140 So there's an article here
00:18:22.160 by,
00:18:22.820 written by
00:18:23.280 Amira El-Gawabi
00:18:24.460 and she's a columnist
00:18:25.960 at the Toronto Star
00:18:26.840 and in it
00:18:27.640 she basically says
00:18:28.640 that,
00:18:29.240 although we just heard
00:18:29.920 from evidence
00:18:30.560 at the commission
00:18:31.180 that CSIS has told
00:18:32.260 the cabinet
00:18:33.160 that there was
00:18:33.740 no threat
00:18:34.260 to national security
00:18:35.080 under section 2
00:18:36.420 of the CSIS Act.
00:18:37.500 Pretty key there
00:18:38.280 as that's one
00:18:38.660 of the central requirements
00:18:40.160 for the government
00:18:40.740 to invoke
00:18:41.460 the Emergencies Act
00:18:42.100 but no security threat,
00:18:43.880 no national security threat
00:18:44.860 we hear from CSIS
00:18:45.940 but then again,
00:18:47.460 perhaps as Amira El-Gawabi
00:18:49.020 writes,
00:18:49.880 there's a different,
00:18:50.660 there's a different
00:18:51.280 interpretation
00:18:51.720 for what a national
00:18:52.700 security threat is
00:18:53.780 and for her,
00:18:55.120 the fact that there
00:18:55.920 was not any discussion
00:18:57.040 of racism and hate
00:18:58.280 indicates that actually
00:18:59.940 there was a national
00:19:00.840 security threat Andrew
00:19:01.720 so we've got it all wrong.
00:19:03.440 The Emergencies Act
00:19:04.160 must be invoked
00:19:05.060 if we think that
00:19:06.660 racism and hate
00:19:07.480 are taking place
00:19:08.680 as it is clearly
00:19:09.360 a threat to national security.
00:19:10.780 Yeah,
00:19:11.200 the big line here is
00:19:12.520 perhaps we have
00:19:13.680 different interpretations
00:19:14.980 of what security means
00:19:16.540 and for who
00:19:17.800 it's supposed to be for.
00:19:19.480 I believe she means
00:19:20.480 to say
00:19:20.900 for whom it's supposed
00:19:22.140 to be
00:19:22.520 or perhaps
00:19:23.180 if you want to play
00:19:23.700 fast and loose
00:19:24.260 with grammar
00:19:24.680 whom it's supposed
00:19:25.640 to be for.
00:19:26.280 Either way,
00:19:27.300 the line is that
00:19:28.240 she is effectively
00:19:29.320 experiencing national
00:19:30.780 security differently
00:19:31.800 than we are
00:19:33.380 so take from that
00:19:34.520 what you will.
00:19:35.860 Listen,
00:19:36.360 I think racism
00:19:37.140 is atrocious.
00:19:38.040 I think anti-Semitism,
00:19:39.380 Islamophobia,
00:19:40.320 anti-black racism,
00:19:41.280 I think any form
00:19:42.220 of bigotry
00:19:43.040 is wrong
00:19:44.480 and I don't think
00:19:45.480 that we should go
00:19:46.320 down this road
00:19:47.040 in society
00:19:47.700 of equating morally
00:19:49.340 wrong with illegal
00:19:50.720 and trying to
00:19:51.480 criminalize wrong think
00:19:52.880 which is what
00:19:53.740 a lot of people
00:19:54.400 who do not fundamentally
00:19:55.540 support free speech
00:19:56.600 are trying to do here.
00:19:57.640 The fact that people
00:19:58.920 may have had
00:19:59.480 and by the way
00:20:00.060 I dispute wholeheartedly
00:20:02.040 her characterization
00:20:03.180 of these things
00:20:04.060 as ubiquitous
00:20:04.740 in the convoy
00:20:05.480 but even if there
00:20:06.560 were a few people
00:20:07.340 that had very unpleasant
00:20:09.120 or unsavory views
00:20:10.260 about race
00:20:10.820 that does not equate
00:20:12.560 to a national emergency
00:20:13.980 in any way whatsoever
00:20:15.700 legal or otherwise.
00:20:17.760 No and just
00:20:18.340 could it be possible
00:20:19.320 could it be possible
00:20:20.400 here that the Toronto Star
00:20:21.800 is pushing this message
00:20:23.660 and actually
00:20:24.540 there wasn't any
00:20:25.640 real evidence
00:20:26.240 of hatred
00:20:27.740 and racism
00:20:28.520 but it's just
00:20:29.380 someone's
00:20:29.860 again it's just
00:20:30.320 someone's interpretation
00:20:31.280 it's not like
00:20:32.140 the Toronto Star
00:20:32.720 has ever gotten
00:20:33.240 anything wrong
00:20:33.840 about the convoy
00:20:34.460 before right
00:20:35.120 it's just exactly
00:20:36.300 like you said Andrew
00:20:37.080 it's not a national
00:20:38.360 security threat
00:20:39.040 we can't just say
00:20:40.060 that because of this
00:20:40.980 because someone
00:20:41.940 interprets it differently
00:20:43.220 because someone
00:20:43.800 has a different
00:20:44.320 interpretation
00:20:44.860 of national security
00:20:45.740 well then
00:20:46.620 the Emergencies Act
00:20:47.660 was justified
00:20:48.440 basically quashing
00:20:50.060 a peaceful
00:20:51.240 lawful protest
00:20:52.260 was justified
00:20:53.360 I mean again
00:20:53.940 it's just classic
00:20:55.140 classic Toronto Star
00:20:56.300 they're reaching here
00:20:57.180 because as we've seen
00:20:58.600 from the Emergencies Act
00:20:59.340 Commission
00:20:59.740 every single
00:21:01.140 justification
00:21:02.060 that the government
00:21:02.720 has used for the
00:21:03.340 Emergencies Act
00:21:03.900 has been whittled down
00:21:05.280 to nothing
00:21:06.140 but just basically
00:21:07.440 hearsay
00:21:08.020 there's every time
00:21:09.140 a law enforcement
00:21:09.760 officer has come up
00:21:10.560 to testify
00:21:11.360 the main legs
00:21:13.200 for the argument
00:21:13.740 for the government
00:21:14.380 to invoke the
00:21:15.000 Emergencies Act
00:21:15.560 get knocked out
00:21:16.260 from under them
00:21:16.740 every single time
00:21:17.620 so now we're reaching
00:21:18.780 to the point
00:21:19.220 where we have to
00:21:20.320 reach so far
00:21:21.080 Andrew
00:21:21.280 that actually
00:21:21.820 it was the racism
00:21:22.880 that was alleged
00:21:23.800 to have taken place
00:21:24.680 which again
00:21:25.200 we don't have
00:21:25.620 really much evidence
00:21:26.760 for other than
00:21:27.460 the very brief
00:21:29.400 sighting of the
00:21:30.200 swastika
00:21:31.140 and the confederate flag
00:21:32.280 which still to this day
00:21:33.380 I have to say
00:21:33.940 have not been
00:21:34.460 fully investigated
00:21:35.300 other than that
00:21:36.940 there's been really
00:21:37.980 no evidence
00:21:39.200 to prove that
00:21:39.820 this was what it was
00:21:40.760 it's just someone's
00:21:42.600 someone's interpretation
00:21:43.760 of it
00:21:44.200 when they feel as though
00:21:45.600 the entire justification
00:21:46.640 is slipping away from them
00:21:47.800 classic from the
00:21:48.660 Toronto Star
00:21:49.200 yeah very much so
00:21:52.080 and this actually
00:21:52.800 does segue into
00:21:53.880 the lighter story
00:21:54.920 we wanted to end on
00:21:55.740 because if you really
00:21:56.600 want to tackle racism
00:21:58.100 if you really want to
00:21:59.400 tackle a lack
00:22:00.440 of inclusivity
00:22:01.180 you have to go
00:22:02.300 right to the source
00:22:03.320 of this
00:22:03.720 and I'm talking
00:22:04.360 of course
00:22:04.920 about crosswords
00:22:06.540 am I reading
00:22:09.880 this right
00:22:10.480 crossword puzzles
00:22:12.380 are everywhere
00:22:13.160 but how inclusive
00:22:14.780 are the bylines
00:22:16.060 and clues
00:22:16.800 and let's play a game
00:22:18.120 I like to call
00:22:18.860 guess the Canadian
00:22:19.760 media outlet
00:22:20.720 CBC
00:22:23.640 bingo
00:22:24.360 it was kind of a
00:22:25.380 toss up between them
00:22:26.200 and the Toronto Star
00:22:27.000 but CBC
00:22:27.700 has taken aim
00:22:29.180 at the crossword
00:22:29.840 because there is
00:22:30.500 a lack of inclusion
00:22:31.800 now
00:22:32.160 I am the in-house
00:22:34.560 crossword expert
00:22:36.040 for True North
00:22:37.180 I mean no one
00:22:38.500 assigned me this title
00:22:39.320 I've just sort of
00:22:39.840 claimed it
00:22:40.220 so I apologize
00:22:40.760 to any of my colleagues
00:22:41.580 if they're as obsessed
00:22:42.300 with crosswords
00:22:42.940 as I am
00:22:43.460 I do the New York Times
00:22:44.880 I occasionally do
00:22:45.760 the Times of London
00:22:46.640 I'm not great
00:22:47.520 at the cryptics
00:22:48.160 but I try
00:22:48.920 absolutely love crosswords
00:22:51.020 I even at one point
00:22:52.180 submitted one
00:22:52.900 to the New York Times
00:22:54.260 they didn't publish it
00:22:55.340 but I tried
00:22:56.060 so I like crosswords
00:22:57.880 and I have never once
00:22:58.940 while I've done a crossword
00:23:00.000 been struggling
00:23:00.980 with the lack
00:23:02.100 of inclusivity
00:23:03.000 but apparently
00:23:03.680 it's been an issue
00:23:04.960 that's been going on
00:23:05.860 for quite some time
00:23:07.220 as one crossword designer
00:23:09.480 says
00:23:10.100 when you only have puzzles
00:23:12.240 that represent
00:23:12.900 a certain kind of topic
00:23:14.100 or are only of interest
00:23:15.320 to straight white men
00:23:16.580 a lot of people
00:23:17.720 won't see themselves
00:23:18.600 reflected in the grid
00:23:20.000 I think crosswords
00:23:21.480 are only of interest
00:23:22.400 to straight white men
00:23:23.420 because other people
00:23:24.020 have lives
00:23:24.660 we're boring
00:23:25.380 let us have our crosswords
00:23:26.800 for crying out loud
00:23:27.680 no no Andrew
00:23:28.560 you can't get it
00:23:29.140 but you see
00:23:29.460 that's exactly why
00:23:30.680 the crosswords
00:23:31.740 aren't inclusive
00:23:32.540 it's because
00:23:33.120 people like you
00:23:34.260 are the ones
00:23:34.840 that are only doing them
00:23:35.700 we need to open it up
00:23:36.560 we need to make it
00:23:37.120 more inclusive
00:23:37.680 for the rest of
00:23:39.380 the rest of society
00:23:40.460 I just find this
00:23:41.580 so so hilarious
00:23:43.220 it was
00:23:43.600 I don't do crosswords
00:23:45.000 I have to say
00:23:45.640 I have a life
00:23:46.840 but when I did read this
00:23:49.380 I thought to myself
00:23:49.980 stone cold
00:23:50.660 when I did read this
00:23:53.340 I thought to myself
00:23:54.060 well again
00:23:54.580 this might be
00:23:56.280 in our yearly
00:23:57.320 fake news Friday
00:23:58.880 award show
00:23:59.520 Andrew
00:23:59.740 which speaking of
00:24:00.380 we're getting close
00:24:00.880 to Christmas
00:24:01.280 you hinted at it
00:24:01.860 at the top
00:24:02.480 we are going to have
00:24:03.420 to do some sort
00:24:04.040 of award show
00:24:04.720 and we're going to
00:24:06.120 be highlighting
00:24:06.540 the very best
00:24:07.320 of the year
00:24:08.400 in fake news
00:24:09.100 and I wouldn't be surprised
00:24:10.560 if this makes it
00:24:11.720 into the list
00:24:12.260 this is what
00:24:13.240 this is what
00:24:13.740 Deborah Rainwright
00:24:15.580 writes in the CBC article
00:24:17.440 or is quoted as saying
00:24:18.500 in the CBC article
00:24:19.360 very hard-hitting journalism
00:24:20.540 real important stuff
00:24:22.420 from the CBC
00:24:22.900 this is what we pay them for
00:24:24.000 she writes
00:24:24.720 someone decides
00:24:25.740 what words get in
00:24:26.640 what's part of the clues
00:24:27.940 and in doing that
00:24:28.760 they're deciding
00:24:29.560 what should be
00:24:30.080 common knowledge
00:24:30.660 for every one of us
00:24:31.460 Andrew
00:24:31.720 Andrew that's why
00:24:32.640 you can't be the one
00:24:33.380 you can't be the one
00:24:34.020 writing these crosswords
00:24:35.040 you can't be submitting them
00:24:36.060 and in fact
00:24:36.740 it's probably time
00:24:37.520 that you
00:24:37.820 you step back
00:24:39.020 and let others
00:24:39.580 have their go
00:24:40.220 at the crosswords
00:24:41.280 that's really
00:24:42.000 what's going on
00:24:42.600 we need to change
00:24:43.200 the target market
00:24:44.300 and then we'll open
00:24:45.340 it all up
00:24:45.840 to the rest of society
00:24:47.720 I should say
00:24:49.620 by the way
00:24:50.140 this wasn't just
00:24:51.080 the CBC news article
00:24:52.420 CBC actually ran
00:24:53.460 a documentary
00:24:54.460 a couple of weeks ago
00:24:56.080 about this
00:24:56.580 called A Cross and Down
00:24:57.780 which is a great title
00:24:58.680 but they found
00:24:59.760 that women
00:25:00.320 indigenous
00:25:01.080 black
00:25:01.720 and queer
00:25:02.300 identifying people
00:25:03.420 have been
00:25:04.000 almost invisible
00:25:05.200 in crossword puzzles
00:25:07.280 so here's the thing
00:25:08.640 I've already admitted
00:25:09.780 that I have no life
00:25:10.680 I do the crosswords
00:25:11.680 for the New York Times
00:25:12.480 fairly religiously
00:25:13.520 but the interesting thing
00:25:14.800 is the New York Times
00:25:15.700 has a crossword blog
00:25:17.680 every day
00:25:18.680 that comes out
00:25:19.480 that has some commentary
00:25:20.840 on the crosswords
00:25:21.780 and every now and then
00:25:22.840 I'll read that
00:25:23.780 if you know
00:25:24.420 I'm interested in the theme
00:25:25.720 or whatever
00:25:26.040 if you want to have
00:25:27.320 a very good time
00:25:28.320 and I'm playing fast and loose
00:25:29.460 with good and time
00:25:30.340 you can see the comments
00:25:32.400 on this
00:25:32.920 and you get oftentimes
00:25:34.120 these little like woke fights
00:25:35.780 when people don't like
00:25:36.920 that a certain word was said
00:25:38.700 or they don't like
00:25:39.220 that a certain word was used
00:25:40.400 like one time
00:25:41.520 the answer to the crossword clue
00:25:43.220 was non-PC
00:25:44.500 as in not politically correct
00:25:46.000 and everyone was like
00:25:46.960 why are we vilifying
00:25:47.920 political correctness
00:25:48.840 political correctness is great
00:25:50.140 there was another time
00:25:51.440 where it was 45th president
00:25:53.440 and the answer was Trump
00:25:54.700 and so I was like
00:25:55.360 why do I have to see that name
00:25:56.820 in my crossword
00:25:57.520 like so people are getting
00:25:59.020 triggered by crosswords
00:26:00.200 so maybe I am just being insensitive
00:26:01.820 so Andrew
00:26:02.440 I've just thought of this now
00:26:05.200 maybe if the CBC
00:26:07.440 the Globe and Mail
00:26:08.340 New York Times
00:26:09.080 they all want to shift woke
00:26:10.580 they're going to open up the market
00:26:11.820 for new crosswords
00:26:14.280 that can be made
00:26:14.940 in fact we can make
00:26:15.660 a true north crossword
00:26:16.700 that is just chock full
00:26:18.580 of politically incorrect terms
00:26:20.180 conservative terms
00:26:21.580 and just designed exclusively
00:26:23.800 for people who are
00:26:25.780 you know being left behind
00:26:28.480 by the changing world of crosswords
00:26:30.200 who knew that there was
00:26:30.980 a whole world Andrew
00:26:31.820 I didn't know there were
00:26:32.380 blog posts documentaries
00:26:34.020 and whole you know
00:26:35.520 philosophical debates
00:26:36.980 about what gets put into crosswords
00:26:38.640 fascinating
00:26:39.160 you got to sharpen that pencil
00:26:41.260 and get to it Harrison
00:26:42.240 this has been another edition
00:26:44.240 of Fake News Friday
00:26:45.220 you can catch Harrison Faulkner
00:26:46.760 on Ratioed every week
00:26:48.360 and you can catch me
00:26:49.180 on the uncreatively titled
00:26:51.480 Andrew Lawton show
00:26:52.400 and I do hope you do both
00:26:53.580 have a great weekend everyone
00:26:54.920 we'll talk to you soon
00:27:00.200 thank you
00:27:01.920 thank you
00:27:02.960 thank you
00:27:04.500 thank you
00:27:05.560 thank you
00:27:07.260 thank you
00:27:09.060 thank you
00:27:10.760 thank you
00:27:13.080 thank you
00:27:18.320 and
00:27:18.820 thank you
00:27:27.980 you