Juno News - November 18, 2022


The media rushes to defend Trudeau’s latest international blunder


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This week on Fake News Friday, Andrew Yang and Harrison Blanchard discuss the fallout from Justin Trudeau's embarrassing G20 encounter with Chinese President Xi Jinping, and the media's reaction to it. Plus, a look at the differences between international headlines and Canadian headlines on China and other countries.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to another exciting, at least I hope it is exciting, edition of Fake News Friday
00:00:16.480 on this Friday, November 18th. Just how many weeks until Christmas now? I don't want to get
00:00:22.700 people too nervous. I think we're five Fake News Fridays away from Christmas, so take from that
00:00:27.520 what you will. Hopefully you can make it to the end of the episode before you rush out to the toy store
00:00:31.820 to buy whatever you need, but it's been a bit of a busy week. The Public Order Emergency Commission
00:00:37.160 has concluded. We've had foreign junkets a go-go for Justin Trudeau, but how was the week in your
00:00:43.700 view, Harrison? Another one for the records? Well, the problem with the Public Order Emergency
00:00:47.980 Commission, Andrew, the Emergencies Act inquiry, is that when there's not a good, exciting witness,
00:00:52.580 it really is boring to get through. It's very repetitive, very slow. But then when Justin Trudeau
00:00:58.400 gets humiliated by Xi Jinping, the entire world erupts, the story dominates headlines, and basically
00:01:04.900 it has given us plenty of fodder for Fake News Friday. So I'm quite looking forward to getting
00:01:10.020 into some of the reactions, the comparisons between Canadian headlines, international headlines.
00:01:14.780 And yeah, I mean, when you see that, it just, it kind of reminds you exactly where Canada is in the
00:01:19.620 pecking order. And frankly, how the rest of the world looks at Canada, it's quite disappointing,
00:01:24.200 but for us, at least, it gives us something fun to talk about. I was just like asking,
00:01:28.540 how are you? And you just went into like this, like grand treatise on Canada and the world,
00:01:33.160 which is good. We're getting down to brass tacks here. No, it's great. I was about to give you the
00:01:39.000 Sir, This is a Wendy's, but I actually liked what you had to say. So I rolled with it here.
00:01:43.180 Let's get right into it, though, because the big news this week was, of course,
00:01:46.800 the lecture, if you will, perhaps the dressing down, depending on how you refer to it,
00:01:53.260 of Justin Trudeau by Chairman Xi Jinping.
00:01:56.440 Everything we discussed has been leaked to the Pesach, that's not appropriate.
00:02:03.760 And that's not how the way the conversation was conducted.
00:02:09.040 If there is sincerity of your heart,
00:02:09.660 In Canada, we believe in free and open and frank dialogue, and that is what we will continue to have.
00:02:25.460 We will continue to look to work constructively together, but there will be things we will disagree on.
00:02:30.400 A little bit of an awkward one. They seem to be at one of those events
00:02:54.240 where you're just supposed to be glad-handing, shaking hands, saying,
00:02:56.960 Oh, have you tried this shrimp yet? Oh, that lobster roll was great.
00:03:00.400 And instead, Chairman Xi is telling Trudeau that he doesn't like the fact that news was leaked
00:03:05.500 of what they discussed in their meeting.
00:03:08.060 Now, so far as I can tell, what he's referring to is the call summary
00:03:12.300 that the Prime Minister's office sends out after pretty much every bilateral conversation.
00:03:17.520 So I don't know if he's talking about anything else beyond that that I haven't seen.
00:03:22.640 But the reality is this is not exactly a stellar direction diplomatically between two countries.
00:03:30.460 Now, I am not going to, as I said on my show yesterday, take Chairman Xi's side just to own the libs.
00:03:35.740 I think that Canada should be taking a tougher position on China and should be getting under their skin.
00:03:41.280 But what's bugged me here is the fact that Chairman Xi is doing this
00:03:45.220 because he sees a weakness in Canada.
00:03:48.440 And I don't think Canada is doing anything to push back against this.
00:03:52.300 And I just want to give you a sense, first off, of how the media has covered this.
00:03:57.960 Because in Canada, this has played very differently than it has in media elsewhere.
00:04:04.000 CTV has a headline,
00:04:05.720 Berated and Agitated.
00:04:07.240 What's being said about Trudeau's G20 exchange with Chinese President Xi?
00:04:11.860 And they say, oh, Xi expressed his displeasure with Trudeau over details of what the pair discussed
00:04:17.920 in a brief meeting this week being leaked.
00:04:20.940 And then you also have the CNN version of it, which I find quite interesting.
00:04:25.980 China's Xi Jinping lectures Justin Trudeau over alleged leaks.
00:04:31.080 So a little bit more of a tougher position on this from the international press.
00:04:35.560 Well, this is exactly what you get, Andrew, when you pay off the media.
00:04:38.940 What you've kind of got here is a bit of a mirroring act.
00:04:41.800 You've got Canadian legacy media who are essentially paid off by Justin Trudeau
00:04:45.880 and puff Justin Trudeau up as though he's some great world leader
00:04:48.880 doing some sort of mirroring act of their Chinese counterparts, 0.86
00:04:53.740 the Chinese propaganda outlets.
00:04:56.140 And I just find that funny because on Ratioed,
00:04:58.280 we discussed some of the differences between international headlines and Canadian headlines.
00:05:02.900 And I also, I made this point that whenever there's a China-related story,
00:05:05.960 it's always fun to go and check out what the Chinese propaganda outlets are saying.
00:05:09.940 What is the South China Morning Post saying about it?
00:05:12.700 What is the Global Times saying about it?
00:05:14.760 And yeah, I mean, basically, it's exactly that.
00:05:17.100 It's this idea that we need to basically just pretend as though Justin Trudeau is this strong world leader.
00:05:23.180 No matter what the rest of the world is saying,
00:05:24.700 no matter what the English press and the American press are saying about Justin Trudeau,
00:05:29.360 we have to make sure that Justin Trudeau looks like a strong leader
00:05:32.160 in an interaction which clearly makes him look very weak.
00:05:36.320 I mean, when I first saw it, I have to say my first interaction was
00:05:39.580 you kind of see Xi Jinping not even really looking at Trudeau in the eyes
00:05:43.220 and you see Justin Trudeau kind of standing there.
00:05:45.780 But then when you watch it again, you watch it a few more times,
00:05:48.360 you really see that there's one man in charge and one man basically taking all the heat.
00:05:53.000 And Justin Trudeau is doing that weird finger-holding posture,
00:05:56.040 bowing his head to Xi Jinping.
00:05:57.300 And then at the end, Xi Jinping gives him like the handshake to say,
00:06:00.800 get lost, get out of here. 1.00
00:06:01.940 And Justin Trudeau scurries off away into the bathroom.
00:06:04.520 I mean, the look couldn't be worse.
00:06:06.160 It really didn't look good on Justin Trudeau's part.
00:06:09.640 And I have to say there was one headline that I read from the UK,
00:06:13.940 from the Mirror, that I just thought really kind of paints the picture
00:06:17.900 of the difference between Canadian legacy media,
00:06:20.620 legacy media that is bought off by Trudeau to basically propagandize on his behalf,
00:06:24.540 and then the rest of the world.
00:06:25.520 This is the way the Mirror wrote it.
00:06:27.420 Xi Jinping humiliates Justin Trudeau in devastating public dressing down.
00:06:31.860 So absolutely, the contrast couldn't be clearer, Andrew.
00:06:36.140 This is what you get when you pay off the media.
00:06:37.640 You get puffed up headlines no matter what happens,
00:06:39.920 no matter how bad you look on camera.
00:06:42.060 Yeah, I mean, the one that really annoyed me was the Toronto Star op-ed.
00:06:46.960 Xi Jinping's scolding shows that Justin Trudeau is doing his job.
00:06:51.760 So he's actually the real winner of this.
00:06:53.820 Now, that was written by Susan Delacorte, who I disagree with on a lot politically, 0.88
00:06:58.120 but I always have enjoyed my chats with Susan.
00:07:00.880 She's a lovely woman.
00:07:02.420 I don't think she's...
00:07:03.540 I can't agree with her conclusion on this one,
00:07:05.620 because the whole point of if you are going to get under China's skin
00:07:09.600 is that there's a difference between doing it in a way that is constructive
00:07:13.880 and doing it in a way that's not.
00:07:15.840 I don't think he was getting under China's skin in any meaningful way.
00:07:19.220 I think he was like a little gnat that Xi Jinping wanted to swat away.
00:07:23.480 And that, I think, is not exactly putting Canada on strong footing
00:07:27.020 when they're going toe-to-toe and taking on the Politburo.
00:07:30.960 And the reason I think this is quite important for people to pay attention to here
00:07:35.380 is because whenever there is like a G20 summit,
00:07:40.160 you see kind of the battle lines be redrawn a little bit.
00:07:43.680 And then when you're at UN summits, all of a sudden the tough talk on China
00:07:47.240 goes to the back burner because, oh, well, there are partners in climate.
00:07:50.420 And it was like John Kerry shaking Maduro's hand at the Sharm el-Sheikh,
00:07:55.520 at COP27 and Sharm el-Sheikh.
00:07:56.980 Yeah, this guy was like, you know, the grand dictator that we don't recognize as the leader.
00:08:00.800 But, oh, if he says he wants to drop CO2 emissions, yeah, welcome aboard, sir.
00:08:04.480 Good to see you.
00:08:05.560 And I think that's the problem,
00:08:06.820 is that Justin Trudeau just wants to be in the club internationally.
00:08:09.860 And I don't think he's doing a very good job at holding China to account. 1.00
00:08:15.400 And it's not even like his appeasement has done all that much for us.
00:08:18.880 No, not at all.
00:08:19.560 And there is something to be said about the fact that at this point,
00:08:23.300 if you're a Canadian leader and you're not standing up for Canada
00:08:26.480 and you're not making it very clear that the way that China is engaging in this country,
00:08:30.740 the way that they're meddling,
00:08:32.000 they're putting spies in Canadian energy companies like at Hydro-Quebec,
00:08:35.160 where they're funding 11 candidates in our elections and trying to interfere in our government.
00:08:40.700 You have to stand up to that.
00:08:41.960 You have to draw a line and say, enough is enough.
00:08:44.720 But then again, you don't want to be caught out being embarrassed and humiliated.
00:08:48.060 It's like the old saying, Andrew, never meet your heroes.
00:08:50.320 Because sometimes you might get exposed to it.
00:08:51.940 But in this case, Justin Trudeau met his hero.
00:08:54.160 And in fact, he was humiliated and ashamed by Xi Jinping.
00:08:57.380 Yep, from hero to giro.
00:09:00.000 I'll keep my day job.
00:09:01.380 Never mind.
00:09:02.080 There we go.
00:09:02.500 But Andrew, another thing that's worth mentioning is the fact that Xi Jinping has sort of
00:09:07.060 stepped out of character at this G20.
00:09:09.780 Xi Jinping has been holding meetings with a bunch of these world leaders.
00:09:12.700 Of course, he did a big meeting with Joe Biden.
00:09:14.780 He met with Emmanuel Macron.
00:09:16.260 I think he met with Rishi Sunak as well.
00:09:18.300 But interestingly, he didn't offer that same meeting to Canada.
00:09:22.240 We know that the Canada-China relations are pretty bad right now.
00:09:24.980 But he did, however, have time to meet with the Argentinian president.
00:09:28.200 I made the point that the fact is,
00:09:29.600 if Justin Trudeau can't get a meeting with Xi Jinping,
00:09:32.160 but Xi Jinping wants to meet with the Argentinian president,
00:09:34.540 that speaks volumes about where Canada is right now and the way the world sees Canada.
00:09:39.120 And yeah, I mean, if you just look at that interaction,
00:09:41.980 Xi Jinping is looking down at Justin Trudeau,
00:09:44.080 wanting to get out of the conversation because it's not even worth his time.
00:09:47.220 But at the same point,
00:09:48.480 the point does stand that if Justin Trudeau is not standing up to China,
00:09:51.620 if Justin Trudeau is not saying enough is enough,
00:09:53.860 this is completely unacceptable,
00:09:55.660 then in a way he really isn't doing his job.
00:09:57.980 But there's ways to do it and there's ways not to do it.
00:10:00.040 And I think we basically saw exactly how not to do it.
00:10:03.140 And it's pretty embarrassing for Justin Trudeau, I have to say.
00:10:05.820 The one thing, just before we move on from this, that I found amusing,
00:10:09.440 there was a fair bit of Zapruder-like analysis on this
00:10:12.440 and how Justin Trudeau started talking
00:10:14.640 as the translator hadn't even translated what Xi had said.
00:10:19.040 Now, it's possible that Justin Trudeau speaks Mandarin.
00:10:21.060 And I have no evidence of this.
00:10:22.620 So I'm going to assume, though, he didn't know what the guy had said.
00:10:26.280 And he just like went right to talking points anyway.
00:10:28.800 That was the great thing.
00:10:30.400 So it's like he's just like, no matter what he says,
00:10:33.460 the talking points are going to be the same.
00:10:35.000 So might as well just cut out the translation
00:10:37.020 and speak only in talking points.
00:10:39.580 It'll be a lot more efficient.
00:10:41.420 Let's move on here to another development
00:10:44.300 on the global scene this past week.
00:10:47.140 As I mentioned, there was the junket in Cambodia.
00:10:50.040 Then there was the G20 in Bali.
00:10:52.860 So lots happening this week.
00:10:54.740 And then, of course, we had news on the Ukraine front.
00:10:58.300 But I want to talk about the G20 takeaway here,
00:11:02.020 which if you ask CTV,
00:11:05.700 all of the 20 most powerful world leaders got together.
00:11:10.040 People like Chairman Xi, people like Chancellor Olaf Scholz,
00:11:13.660 people like Rishi Sunak,
00:11:15.480 the president of the European Commission.
00:11:17.540 And all of these people with massive economies,
00:11:20.160 they got together.
00:11:21.200 And at the end of it, what did they do?
00:11:23.960 They ended the summit with pledges aligned
00:11:26.620 with the Trudeau government's agenda.
00:11:29.940 Hmm.
00:11:31.180 Maybe we've been getting it all wrong.
00:11:33.220 Maybe it's not the UN pulling the strings.
00:11:35.240 It's not Klaus Schwab pulling the strings.
00:11:37.140 Maybe Justin Trudeau is the puppet master
00:11:39.480 behind the new world order.
00:11:41.920 Do you buy into this?
00:11:43.120 That all of these people,
00:11:44.320 that they magically came around
00:11:45.900 to Justin Trudeau's position by the end of this meeting?
00:11:48.900 Yes.
00:11:49.200 After Justin Trudeau's humiliation from Xi Jinping,
00:11:52.200 all these world leaders, Andrew,
00:11:53.880 they wanted to make...
00:11:54.580 Including Xi Jinping, by the way.
00:11:55.940 He's one of the G20.
00:11:57.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:11:57.240 So, yes, Xi Jinping has aligned China
00:11:59.540 with Canada and Justin Trudeau's mission
00:12:01.520 because they all say to themselves,
00:12:03.340 now, what is Justin doing?
00:12:04.500 We have to make sure that the sun we all orbit around,
00:12:07.360 Justin Trudeau,
00:12:08.600 whatever he's doing,
00:12:09.440 we better not be out of step
00:12:10.880 with the great, powerful Canada.
00:12:12.640 We all know that's exactly what needs to be done.
00:12:14.360 Now, very conspicuously, Andrew,
00:12:16.500 this article from CTV came out
00:12:18.840 right after the world was laughing at Justin Trudeau.
00:12:22.020 The world was dunking on Justin Trudeau
00:12:23.760 for that embarrassing performance.
00:12:24.940 It's almost as if, Andrew,
00:12:26.320 Justin Trudeau's ego was so badly hurt,
00:12:28.280 so badly damaged by being embarrassed
00:12:29.900 in front of the world
00:12:30.620 that the legacy media needed to puff him up a little bit,
00:12:33.420 give him a little victory,
00:12:35.220 something that he can take home to Canada
00:12:36.700 and say, look, guys,
00:12:37.600 the rest of the world,
00:12:38.580 they're orbiting around Canada.
00:12:39.880 They want to make sure they're in line with us.
00:12:42.220 And the best part about this is,
00:12:43.900 you read the article,
00:12:45.120 there's no mention about that at all.
00:12:46.980 They just say that the rest of the world
00:12:48.960 are basically talking about
00:12:51.080 the same thing Justin Trudeau is talking about,
00:12:52.800 not aligning their agendas with Justin Trudeau.
00:12:55.300 It's classic, classic Canadian legacy media,
00:12:58.100 and it 100% deserves a spot on the show.
00:13:01.680 No, yeah, this is like,
00:13:03.080 you know, I got a coffee this morning
00:13:05.200 and around the world,
00:13:07.300 people have drank Andrew Lawton's
00:13:09.640 chosen breakfast beverage for the morning.
00:13:12.640 And it's like, oh, wow, yeah,
00:13:13.540 I'm fairly influential.
00:13:14.980 I have a coffee, everyone else does.
00:13:16.400 It's like the epitome of just seeing
00:13:18.520 where everyone's going
00:13:19.380 so you can like get in front of them to lead them.
00:13:21.720 Yeah, and also when you look at the article,
00:13:23.860 what's hilarious about it
00:13:24.840 is you read the article,
00:13:25.960 you open it up,
00:13:26.580 you see the headline,
00:13:27.220 you think, okay,
00:13:27.680 well, maybe there's something,
00:13:28.900 maybe we've got this all wrong,
00:13:29.880 like you said.
00:13:30.820 And then the very top video in the article
00:13:32.800 is the video of Xi Jinping
00:13:34.440 dressing down Justin Trudeau.
00:13:36.300 Like they have that right below the headline,
00:13:40.000 which says basically the Justin Trudeau
00:13:42.460 is the sun that the rest of the world orbits around.
00:13:44.820 And you look at it,
00:13:45.860 again, you look at the article,
00:13:47.080 there's not one mention, Andrew,
00:13:49.000 of the fact that the rest of the world,
00:13:50.600 you know, has Rishi Sunak pledged
00:13:52.400 to be just like Canada?
00:13:53.820 Has Emmanuel Macron pledged
00:13:55.540 to be just like Canada?
00:13:56.760 No, in fact,
00:13:57.460 all they're talking about
00:13:58.300 is that the Ukraine-Poland-Russia
00:14:01.640 missile conversation.
00:14:04.000 That's basically all that this is about.
00:14:06.040 And it's so obvious.
00:14:07.080 They said,
00:14:07.740 look, we can't allow our dear leader
00:14:09.220 to be hit so badly,
00:14:11.040 to be hurt so bad
00:14:12.500 after his horrible performance at the G20.
00:14:14.640 We have to give him something to take home.
00:14:17.160 We have to give him something
00:14:17.980 to write home about,
00:14:18.980 about his victory. 0.99
00:14:20.020 And pretty pathetic, 0.99
00:14:21.440 I have to say. 0.99
00:14:22.640 Yeah, it reminds me of that great story
00:14:24.980 in Bloomberg around the time
00:14:26.460 of one of the G7s,
00:14:27.760 I can't remember,
00:14:28.300 it was two years ago or so,
00:14:29.980 when Justin Trudeau's staffers
00:14:32.500 have been like going around
00:14:33.580 telling everyone
00:14:34.480 that with Angela Merkel resigning,
00:14:37.080 Justin Trudeau is going to be
00:14:37.960 the new dean of the G7.
00:14:39.840 And everyone was like,
00:14:40.980 yeah, yeah, we're good.
00:14:41.740 We're good, but thank you.
00:14:43.120 So, but on the G20,
00:14:44.580 he's managed apparently
00:14:45.600 to bring the whole thing into it.
00:14:48.300 And he has also started
00:14:49.500 a brewing buddy comedy style bromance
00:14:52.760 with the new Prime Minister
00:14:54.640 of the United Kingdom,
00:14:55.680 Rishi Sunak.
00:14:56.600 Now, the two of them
00:14:58.040 have apparently been hitting it off.
00:14:59.920 There was this photo of them
00:15:00.960 having a nice little dinner
00:15:02.340 in a casual eatery.
00:15:03.860 And then there was this video
00:15:05.200 where the two of them
00:15:06.000 expressed their support
00:15:07.160 to the Ukrainian President,
00:15:09.480 Volodymyr Zelensky.
00:15:11.060 Prime Minister Trudeau,
00:15:12.260 Prime Minister Sunak,
00:15:13.400 President Zelensky,
00:15:14.200 please go ahead,
00:15:14.860 you're online.
00:15:15.940 Hello, Volodymyr.
00:15:17.280 It's Rishi and Justin.
00:15:18.500 I really wanted you
00:15:19.880 to hear from us as friends.
00:15:21.800 We absolutely know
00:15:22.660 how difficult yesterday was.
00:15:24.700 It was horrific for you
00:15:26.080 and your country.
00:15:27.500 And we have called it out
00:15:29.980 in the session that we've just had
00:15:32.360 and on the media here this morning.
00:15:34.860 And we made that point
00:15:36.080 loud and clear
00:15:36.900 to everyone who was here
00:15:39.420 that what your country
00:15:41.160 had to live through yesterday
00:15:42.520 was unacceptable
00:15:43.300 and represented yet more 0.51
00:15:46.240 barbarity from the Russians. 1.00
00:15:49.240 We stood united
00:15:50.040 in condemning it.
00:15:51.440 Rishi and I really wanted
00:15:52.500 to reach out
00:15:53.320 to reassure you,
00:15:54.740 to show you
00:15:55.380 we're standing with you
00:15:56.460 and to say
00:15:57.460 we're going to figure out
00:15:59.360 this step by step
00:16:00.860 all together.
00:16:01.620 Thank you, Volodymyr.
00:16:02.580 Talk to you soon.
00:16:03.240 Now, just before we get into
00:16:06.100 just how cringeworthy that was,
00:16:08.920 let me say how bizarre
00:16:10.320 I find it
00:16:11.260 that they're sharing
00:16:12.540 this conversation
00:16:13.660 that took place
00:16:15.580 between them and Zelensky
00:16:16.700 and not heard anywhere
00:16:18.260 is Zelensky.
00:16:19.380 So it's like
00:16:19.960 they could just be talking
00:16:21.120 into a voice memo
00:16:21.980 on their phone
00:16:22.620 for all I know.
00:16:23.640 Well, it wouldn't be
00:16:24.260 that surprising, right, Andrew,
00:16:25.460 if the drama teacher
00:16:26.340 was just making it all up,
00:16:27.760 if it was all just a big skit.
00:16:28.980 But I've got to say
00:16:29.820 the best part about that
00:16:30.780 is the accent
00:16:31.520 that Justin Trudeau
00:16:32.300 puts on,
00:16:32.840 the Ukrainian accent
00:16:34.220 when he says,
00:16:35.080 hello, Volodymyr,
00:16:36.440 it's Rishi and Justin.
00:16:38.060 And then it's like
00:16:40.600 one of those bad editing jobs.
00:16:42.140 Like when you've got
00:16:42.640 like a bad intern
00:16:44.240 trying to put together
00:16:45.000 a quick video
00:16:45.640 for their boss,
00:16:46.940 like a quickly edited
00:16:48.140 jump cut full video
00:16:49.380 where they basically say,
00:16:50.820 we're here to talk to you.
00:16:52.100 And then they cut in
00:16:52.780 as friends
00:16:53.680 and then they cut back.
00:16:54.700 They had to cut the part
00:16:55.840 as friends in there.
00:16:57.100 It's from start to finish.
00:16:58.640 It is an absolute joke.
00:17:00.520 I wrote on Twitter,
00:17:01.360 how is this actually real?
00:17:02.800 And again,
00:17:03.360 this has to get through
00:17:04.320 enough people
00:17:05.020 for it to be put out
00:17:06.380 and published
00:17:06.900 by 10 Downing Street,
00:17:08.360 the official UK
00:17:09.720 Prime Minister
00:17:10.380 Twitter account
00:17:12.120 as some sort of video
00:17:13.240 to say,
00:17:13.680 look at these two
00:17:14.360 strong world leaders
00:17:15.340 talking to Vladimir Zelensky
00:17:17.000 using a fake accent
00:17:18.440 to talk to Vladimir Zelensky.
00:17:20.080 But don't,
00:17:20.660 make sure you don't hear
00:17:21.300 anything that Zelensky
00:17:22.020 has to say.
00:17:22.620 There's not like,
00:17:23.320 oh, thanks for calling guys.
00:17:24.560 Really appreciate it.
00:17:25.480 Thanks for calling friends.
00:17:26.760 None of that.
00:17:27.360 Just the,
00:17:27.820 just the absolute cringe fest.
00:17:29.880 You need to start
00:17:31.020 doing the Trudeau accent
00:17:32.060 so you don't call him Vladimir.
00:17:33.440 It's Volodymyr.
00:17:34.680 Volodymyr.
00:17:35.240 Volodymyr.
00:17:36.080 Zelensky.
00:17:36.660 As friends.
00:17:38.900 We're your friends.
00:17:39.820 And that,
00:17:40.140 by the way,
00:17:40.540 that was not me
00:17:41.140 making fun of
00:17:41.840 Volodymyr Zelensky's accent.
00:17:43.160 That was me making fun
00:17:44.120 of the fake
00:17:44.840 Justin Trudeau accent
00:17:46.240 just so no one
00:17:46.880 like accuses me
00:17:47.600 of Ukraine-ophobia
00:17:49.020 or anything like that.
00:17:50.640 No, no,
00:17:51.000 of course not.
00:17:51.600 Of course not.
00:17:53.020 Let's,
00:17:53.620 do we want to end
00:17:54.300 on our lighter note?
00:17:55.100 I'm trying to remember
00:17:55.580 what else we had
00:17:56.120 going on today.
00:17:56.980 Let's do,
00:17:57.540 let's do the POEC,
00:17:58.800 the Toronto Star headline
00:18:00.600 for what we're missing
00:18:02.020 from the Public Order
00:18:03.220 Emergency Commission.
00:18:04.000 You've heard a lot
00:18:04.620 but we're missing something
00:18:05.700 really key,
00:18:06.880 Andrew,
00:18:07.440 in the Emergencies Act Committee
00:18:08.840 and apparently
00:18:09.800 from the Toronto Star.
00:18:11.540 What we're missing
00:18:12.280 from the Emergencies Act Committee
00:18:13.540 is the fact that
00:18:14.880 racism and hatred
00:18:16.440 are not being discussed
00:18:17.880 as threats
00:18:18.800 to national security.
00:18:20.400 Interesting.
00:18:21.140 So there's an article here
00:18:22.160 by,
00:18:22.820 written by
00:18:23.280 Amira El-Gawabi
00:18:24.460 and she's a columnist
00:18:25.960 at the Toronto Star
00:18:26.840 and in it
00:18:27.640 she basically says
00:18:28.640 that,
00:18:29.240 although we just heard
00:18:29.920 from evidence
00:18:30.560 at the commission
00:18:31.180 that CSIS has told
00:18:32.260 the cabinet
00:18:33.160 that there was
00:18:33.740 no threat
00:18:34.260 to national security
00:18:35.080 under section 2
00:18:36.420 of the CSIS Act.
00:18:37.500 Pretty key there
00:18:38.280 as that's one
00:18:38.660 of the central requirements
00:18:40.160 for the government
00:18:40.740 to invoke
00:18:41.460 the Emergencies Act
00:18:42.100 but no security threat,
00:18:43.880 no national security threat
00:18:44.860 we hear from CSIS
00:18:45.940 but then again,
00:18:47.460 perhaps as Amira El-Gawabi
00:18:49.020 writes,
00:18:49.880 there's a different,
00:18:50.660 there's a different
00:18:51.280 interpretation
00:18:51.720 for what a national
00:18:52.700 security threat is
00:18:53.780 and for her,
00:18:55.120 the fact that there
00:18:55.920 was not any discussion
00:18:57.040 of racism and hate
00:18:58.280 indicates that actually
00:18:59.940 there was a national
00:19:00.840 security threat Andrew
00:19:01.720 so we've got it all wrong.
00:19:03.440 The Emergencies Act
00:19:04.160 must be invoked
00:19:05.060 if we think that
00:19:06.660 racism and hate
00:19:07.480 are taking place
00:19:08.680 as it is clearly
00:19:09.360 a threat to national security.
00:19:10.780 Yeah,
00:19:11.200 the big line here is
00:19:12.520 perhaps we have
00:19:13.680 different interpretations
00:19:14.980 of what security means
00:19:16.540 and for who
00:19:17.800 it's supposed to be for.
00:19:19.480 I believe she means
00:19:20.480 to say
00:19:20.900 for whom it's supposed
00:19:22.140 to be
00:19:22.520 or perhaps
00:19:23.180 if you want to play
00:19:23.700 fast and loose
00:19:24.260 with grammar
00:19:24.680 whom it's supposed
00:19:25.640 to be for.
00:19:26.280 Either way,
00:19:27.300 the line is that
00:19:28.240 she is effectively 0.83
00:19:29.320 experiencing national
00:19:30.780 security differently
00:19:31.800 than we are
00:19:33.380 so take from that
00:19:34.520 what you will.
00:19:35.860 Listen,
00:19:36.360 I think racism
00:19:37.140 is atrocious.
00:19:38.040 I think anti-Semitism,
00:19:39.380 Islamophobia,
00:19:40.320 anti-black racism,
00:19:41.280 I think any form
00:19:42.220 of bigotry
00:19:43.040 is wrong
00:19:44.480 and I don't think
00:19:45.480 that we should go
00:19:46.320 down this road
00:19:47.040 in society
00:19:47.700 of equating morally
00:19:49.340 wrong with illegal
00:19:50.720 and trying to
00:19:51.480 criminalize wrong think
00:19:52.880 which is what
00:19:53.740 a lot of people
00:19:54.400 who do not fundamentally
00:19:55.540 support free speech
00:19:56.600 are trying to do here.
00:19:57.640 The fact that people
00:19:58.920 may have had
00:19:59.480 and by the way
00:20:00.060 I dispute wholeheartedly
00:20:02.040 her characterization 0.92
00:20:03.180 of these things
00:20:04.060 as ubiquitous
00:20:04.740 in the convoy
00:20:05.480 but even if there
00:20:06.560 were a few people
00:20:07.340 that had very unpleasant
00:20:09.120 or unsavory views
00:20:10.260 about race
00:20:10.820 that does not equate
00:20:12.560 to a national emergency
00:20:13.980 in any way whatsoever
00:20:15.700 legal or otherwise.
00:20:17.760 No and just
00:20:18.340 could it be possible
00:20:19.320 could it be possible
00:20:20.400 here that the Toronto Star
00:20:21.800 is pushing this message
00:20:23.660 and actually
00:20:24.540 there wasn't any
00:20:25.640 real evidence
00:20:26.240 of hatred
00:20:27.740 and racism
00:20:28.520 but it's just
00:20:29.380 someone's
00:20:29.860 again it's just
00:20:30.320 someone's interpretation
00:20:31.280 it's not like
00:20:32.140 the Toronto Star
00:20:32.720 has ever gotten
00:20:33.240 anything wrong
00:20:33.840 about the convoy
00:20:34.460 before right
00:20:35.120 it's just exactly
00:20:36.300 like you said Andrew
00:20:37.080 it's not a national
00:20:38.360 security threat
00:20:39.040 we can't just say
00:20:40.060 that because of this
00:20:40.980 because someone
00:20:41.940 interprets it differently
00:20:43.220 because someone
00:20:43.800 has a different
00:20:44.320 interpretation
00:20:44.860 of national security
00:20:45.740 well then
00:20:46.620 the Emergencies Act
00:20:47.660 was justified 0.90
00:20:48.440 basically quashing
00:20:50.060 a peaceful
00:20:51.240 lawful protest
00:20:52.260 was justified 0.90
00:20:53.360 I mean again
00:20:53.940 it's just classic
00:20:55.140 classic Toronto Star
00:20:56.300 they're reaching here
00:20:57.180 because as we've seen
00:20:58.600 from the Emergencies Act
00:20:59.340 Commission
00:20:59.740 every single
00:21:01.140 justification
00:21:02.060 that the government
00:21:02.720 has used for the
00:21:03.340 Emergencies Act
00:21:03.900 has been whittled down
00:21:05.280 to nothing
00:21:06.140 but just basically
00:21:07.440 hearsay
00:21:08.020 there's every time
00:21:09.140 a law enforcement
00:21:09.760 officer has come up
00:21:10.560 to testify
00:21:11.360 the main legs
00:21:13.200 for the argument
00:21:13.740 for the government
00:21:14.380 to invoke the
00:21:15.000 Emergencies Act
00:21:15.560 get knocked out
00:21:16.260 from under them
00:21:16.740 every single time
00:21:17.620 so now we're reaching
00:21:18.780 to the point
00:21:19.220 where we have to
00:21:20.320 reach so far
00:21:21.080 Andrew
00:21:21.280 that actually
00:21:21.820 it was the racism
00:21:22.880 that was alleged
00:21:23.800 to have taken place
00:21:24.680 which again
00:21:25.200 we don't have
00:21:25.620 really much evidence
00:21:26.760 for other than
00:21:27.460 the very brief
00:21:29.400 sighting of the
00:21:30.200 swastika
00:21:31.140 and the confederate flag
00:21:32.280 which still to this day
00:21:33.380 I have to say
00:21:33.940 have not been
00:21:34.460 fully investigated
00:21:35.300 other than that
00:21:36.940 there's been really
00:21:37.980 no evidence
00:21:39.200 to prove that
00:21:39.820 this was what it was
00:21:40.760 it's just someone's
00:21:42.600 someone's interpretation
00:21:43.760 of it
00:21:44.200 when they feel as though
00:21:45.600 the entire justification
00:21:46.640 is slipping away from them
00:21:47.800 classic from the
00:21:48.660 Toronto Star
00:21:49.200 yeah very much so
00:21:52.080 and this actually
00:21:52.800 does segue into
00:21:53.880 the lighter story
00:21:54.920 we wanted to end on
00:21:55.740 because if you really
00:21:56.600 want to tackle racism
00:21:58.100 if you really want to
00:21:59.400 tackle a lack
00:22:00.440 of inclusivity
00:22:01.180 you have to go
00:22:02.300 right to the source
00:22:03.320 of this
00:22:03.720 and I'm talking
00:22:04.360 of course
00:22:04.920 about crosswords
00:22:06.540 am I reading
00:22:09.880 this right
00:22:10.480 crossword puzzles
00:22:12.380 are everywhere
00:22:13.160 but how inclusive
00:22:14.780 are the bylines
00:22:16.060 and clues
00:22:16.800 and let's play a game
00:22:18.120 I like to call
00:22:18.860 guess the Canadian
00:22:19.760 media outlet
00:22:20.720 CBC
00:22:23.640 bingo
00:22:24.360 it was kind of a
00:22:25.380 toss up between them
00:22:26.200 and the Toronto Star
00:22:27.000 but CBC
00:22:27.700 has taken aim
00:22:29.180 at the crossword
00:22:29.840 because there is
00:22:30.500 a lack of inclusion
00:22:31.800 now
00:22:32.160 I am the in-house
00:22:34.560 crossword expert
00:22:36.040 for True North
00:22:37.180 I mean no one
00:22:38.500 assigned me this title
00:22:39.320 I've just sort of
00:22:39.840 claimed it
00:22:40.220 so I apologize
00:22:40.760 to any of my colleagues
00:22:41.580 if they're as obsessed
00:22:42.300 with crosswords
00:22:42.940 as I am
00:22:43.460 I do the New York Times
00:22:44.880 I occasionally do
00:22:45.760 the Times of London
00:22:46.640 I'm not great
00:22:47.520 at the cryptics
00:22:48.160 but I try
00:22:48.920 absolutely love crosswords
00:22:51.020 I even at one point
00:22:52.180 submitted one
00:22:52.900 to the New York Times
00:22:54.260 they didn't publish it
00:22:55.340 but I tried
00:22:56.060 so I like crosswords
00:22:57.880 and I have never once
00:22:58.940 while I've done a crossword
00:23:00.000 been struggling
00:23:00.980 with the lack
00:23:02.100 of inclusivity
00:23:03.000 but apparently
00:23:03.680 it's been an issue
00:23:04.960 that's been going on
00:23:05.860 for quite some time
00:23:07.220 as one crossword designer
00:23:09.480 says
00:23:10.100 when you only have puzzles
00:23:12.240 that represent
00:23:12.900 a certain kind of topic
00:23:14.100 or are only of interest
00:23:15.320 to straight white men
00:23:16.580 a lot of people
00:23:17.720 won't see themselves
00:23:18.600 reflected in the grid
00:23:20.000 I think crosswords
00:23:21.480 are only of interest
00:23:22.400 to straight white men
00:23:23.420 because other people
00:23:24.020 have lives
00:23:24.660 we're boring
00:23:25.380 let us have our crosswords
00:23:26.800 for crying out loud
00:23:27.680 no no Andrew
00:23:28.560 you can't get it
00:23:29.140 but you see
00:23:29.460 that's exactly why
00:23:30.680 the crosswords
00:23:31.740 aren't inclusive
00:23:32.540 it's because
00:23:33.120 people like you
00:23:34.260 are the ones
00:23:34.840 that are only doing them
00:23:35.700 we need to open it up
00:23:36.560 we need to make it
00:23:37.120 more inclusive
00:23:37.680 for the rest of
00:23:39.380 the rest of society
00:23:40.460 I just find this
00:23:41.580 so so hilarious
00:23:43.220 it was
00:23:43.600 I don't do crosswords
00:23:45.000 I have to say
00:23:45.640 I have a life
00:23:46.840 but when I did read this
00:23:49.380 I thought to myself
00:23:49.980 stone cold
00:23:50.660 when I did read this
00:23:53.340 I thought to myself
00:23:54.060 well again
00:23:54.580 this might be
00:23:56.280 in our yearly
00:23:57.320 fake news Friday
00:23:58.880 award show
00:23:59.520 Andrew
00:23:59.740 which speaking of
00:24:00.380 we're getting close
00:24:00.880 to Christmas
00:24:01.280 you hinted at it
00:24:01.860 at the top
00:24:02.480 we are going to have
00:24:03.420 to do some sort
00:24:04.040 of award show
00:24:04.720 and we're going to
00:24:06.120 be highlighting
00:24:06.540 the very best
00:24:07.320 of the year
00:24:08.400 in fake news
00:24:09.100 and I wouldn't be surprised
00:24:10.560 if this makes it
00:24:11.720 into the list
00:24:12.260 this is what
00:24:13.240 this is what
00:24:13.740 Deborah Rainwright
00:24:15.580 writes in the CBC article
00:24:17.440 or is quoted as saying
00:24:18.500 in the CBC article
00:24:19.360 very hard-hitting journalism
00:24:20.540 real important stuff
00:24:22.420 from the CBC
00:24:22.900 this is what we pay them for
00:24:24.000 she writes
00:24:24.720 someone decides
00:24:25.740 what words get in
00:24:26.640 what's part of the clues
00:24:27.940 and in doing that
00:24:28.760 they're deciding
00:24:29.560 what should be
00:24:30.080 common knowledge
00:24:30.660 for every one of us
00:24:31.460 Andrew
00:24:31.720 Andrew that's why
00:24:32.640 you can't be the one
00:24:33.380 you can't be the one
00:24:34.020 writing these crosswords
00:24:35.040 you can't be submitting them
00:24:36.060 and in fact
00:24:36.740 it's probably time
00:24:37.520 that you
00:24:37.820 you step back
00:24:39.020 and let others
00:24:39.580 have their go
00:24:40.220 at the crosswords
00:24:41.280 that's really
00:24:42.000 what's going on
00:24:42.600 we need to change
00:24:43.200 the target market
00:24:44.300 and then we'll open
00:24:45.340 it all up
00:24:45.840 to the rest of society
00:24:47.720 I should say
00:24:49.620 by the way
00:24:50.140 this wasn't just
00:24:51.080 the CBC news article
00:24:52.420 CBC actually ran
00:24:53.460 a documentary
00:24:54.460 a couple of weeks ago
00:24:56.080 about this
00:24:56.580 called A Cross and Down
00:24:57.780 which is a great title
00:24:58.680 but they found
00:24:59.760 that women 0.97
00:25:00.320 indigenous
00:25:01.080 black
00:25:01.720 and queer
00:25:02.300 identifying people
00:25:03.420 have been
00:25:04.000 almost invisible
00:25:05.200 in crossword puzzles
00:25:07.280 so here's the thing
00:25:08.640 I've already admitted
00:25:09.780 that I have no life
00:25:10.680 I do the crosswords
00:25:11.680 for the New York Times
00:25:12.480 fairly religiously
00:25:13.520 but the interesting thing
00:25:14.800 is the New York Times
00:25:15.700 has a crossword blog
00:25:17.680 every day
00:25:18.680 that comes out
00:25:19.480 that has some commentary
00:25:20.840 on the crosswords
00:25:21.780 and every now and then
00:25:22.840 I'll read that
00:25:23.780 if you know
00:25:24.420 I'm interested in the theme
00:25:25.720 or whatever
00:25:26.040 if you want to have
00:25:27.320 a very good time
00:25:28.320 and I'm playing fast and loose
00:25:29.460 with good and time
00:25:30.340 you can see the comments
00:25:32.400 on this
00:25:32.920 and you get oftentimes
00:25:34.120 these little like woke fights
00:25:35.780 when people don't like
00:25:36.920 that a certain word was said
00:25:38.700 or they don't like
00:25:39.220 that a certain word was used
00:25:40.400 like one time
00:25:41.520 the answer to the crossword clue
00:25:43.220 was non-PC
00:25:44.500 as in not politically correct
00:25:46.000 and everyone was like
00:25:46.960 why are we vilifying
00:25:47.920 political correctness
00:25:48.840 political correctness is great
00:25:50.140 there was another time
00:25:51.440 where it was 45th president
00:25:53.440 and the answer was Trump
00:25:54.700 and so I was like
00:25:55.360 why do I have to see that name
00:25:56.820 in my crossword
00:25:57.520 like so people are getting
00:25:59.020 triggered by crosswords
00:26:00.200 so maybe I am just being insensitive
00:26:01.820 so Andrew
00:26:02.440 I've just thought of this now
00:26:05.200 maybe if the CBC
00:26:07.440 the Globe and Mail
00:26:08.340 New York Times
00:26:09.080 they all want to shift woke
00:26:10.580 they're going to open up the market
00:26:11.820 for new crosswords
00:26:14.280 that can be made
00:26:14.940 in fact we can make
00:26:15.660 a true north crossword
00:26:16.700 that is just chock full
00:26:18.580 of politically incorrect terms
00:26:20.180 conservative terms
00:26:21.580 and just designed exclusively
00:26:23.800 for people who are
00:26:25.780 you know being left behind
00:26:28.480 by the changing world of crosswords
00:26:30.200 who knew that there was
00:26:30.980 a whole world Andrew
00:26:31.820 I didn't know there were
00:26:32.380 blog posts documentaries
00:26:34.020 and whole you know
00:26:35.520 philosophical debates
00:26:36.980 about what gets put into crosswords
00:26:38.640 fascinating
00:26:39.160 you got to sharpen that pencil
00:26:41.260 and get to it Harrison
00:26:42.240 this has been another edition
00:26:44.240 of Fake News Friday
00:26:45.220 you can catch Harrison Faulkner
00:26:46.760 on Ratioed every week
00:26:48.360 and you can catch me
00:26:49.180 on the uncreatively titled
00:26:51.480 Andrew Lawton show
00:26:52.400 and I do hope you do both
00:26:53.580 have a great weekend everyone
00:26:54.920 we'll talk to you soon
00:27:00.200 thank you
00:27:01.920 thank you
00:27:02.960 thank you
00:27:04.500 thank you
00:27:05.560 thank you
00:27:07.260 thank you
00:27:09.060 thank you
00:27:10.760 thank you
00:27:13.080 thank you
00:27:18.320 and
00:27:18.820 thank you
00:27:27.980 you