Juno News - The moving COVID-19 goalposts in Quebec (Ft. Viva Frei)

00:00:00.000 Why does Quebec always seem to have the most heavy-handed lockdown measures and yet at the

00:00:04.320 same time their politicians always seem to have the highest approval ratings? What is going on

00:00:08.860 in La Belle Provence? I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:16.600 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in. Now from the outside, Quebec just seems like a total

00:00:21.420 madhouse. Every time there's a new fad or a new restriction, it seems like Quebec is jumping to

00:00:26.440 be the first to implement it. To me, the silliest thing out of all the silly restrictions that we've 0.85

00:00:30.880 seen in COVID, the idea of a curfew, the idea that somehow at night COVID becomes more dangerous and 0.90

00:00:36.180 if you're out after a certain hour, you become more infectious is just so silly and it just shows the

00:00:41.300 anti-scientific approach and yet that's one of the things that Quebec continues to do. So we don't

00:00:46.680 really talk a lot about Quebec on The Candice Malcolm Show and here at True North and I want to

00:00:50.920 try to rectify that and correct that and so we're going to do a complete focus today on what's going

00:00:56.140 on in Quebec as well as some of the broader trends and to do that, I am joined by someone who I am a

00:01:00.780 big fan of, I've admired for a very, very long time. I'm talking about David Freiheit who runs the YouTube

00:01:06.980 channel Viva Frei and David is a, he was a lawyer in Montreal from 2007 to 2018 before making the leap

00:01:15.200 into YouTube and he's now sort of a full-time YouTuber, social media guy. So Viva or David, it's so

00:01:21.620 great to have you on the show. Thank you for having me. I'm still a member of the bar, so technically

00:01:25.860 I have one file left and it's a trial coming up in 2023 that we started, the file started in 2015. So

00:01:32.760 as mad as the world is, the practice of litigation is a very long and tedious process.

00:01:39.580 Well, that's interesting. We can get into it and before we do that, I just want to hear a little

00:01:44.080 bit, you know, we've never had you on the show before. I've been a fan for a long time. I really

00:01:47.920 got into your YouTube videos. I think it was back during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings and you sort of

00:01:52.580 broke everything down in like a very logical, coherent, rational way. I really appreciate

00:01:57.480 that. I love, I love your stuff. I also like how, you know, sometimes I see you doing YouTube videos

00:02:02.760 in the car or with kids running around and it's such a great reflection of real life. So why don't

00:02:08.280 you tell us a little bit about yourself and what made you take this jump from being, you know, a super

00:02:13.140 serious lawyer into doing something more fun and something more interactive like becoming a YouTuber?

00:02:18.640 Well, it's funny, going back to CEGEP, I was in Dawson College, studied film, studied creative

00:02:24.540 arts, fine arts, and then studied philosophy. But then you have to get a job and you have to,

00:02:29.240 you know, go and integrate into real life. So I got a law degree and then practice, but I've always

00:02:33.140 loved that stuff. And the practice of law, I never loved for the reason, you know, tedious paper

00:02:39.380 pushing, soul crushing. When you win, you lose. When you lose, you lose. And so I kept on saying,

00:02:45.180 you know, if I don't like it more next year, I'll stop. If I don't like it more next year,

00:02:48.100 I'll stop. Then I had my first kid and I walked out of the big firm, ended up starting my own

00:02:53.780 boutique. It was a solo practice turned into a boutique litigation, but seven years into that

00:02:58.800 still didn't like it. And on the sideline, I was making videos, playing around on YouTube,

00:03:04.560 playing around with GoPros. And I discovered video, videography, you know, content creation.

00:03:09.960 But I noticed every time I put up a video about what it's like to be a lawyer, people got engaged,

00:03:14.020 they liked that they said more of this. And then it just happened. I mean, I did a breakdown

00:03:18.900 of an Alex Jones deposition in 2018. And that really caused me to discover the niche. I don't

00:03:25.400 like practicing law, but I'm reasonably decent at understanding it and explaining it. Although I

00:03:29.960 think I was good at practicing as well. And then I just, the channel turned into that and it, you know,

00:03:33.960 it went to where it is now, which is, you know, breaking down the lawsuits and litigation of

00:03:39.700 general stuff, but a lot of COVID stuff for the last two years. The Brett Kavanaugh was

00:03:44.340 interesting. That was back in the day, where I tried to remain neutral with my own personal

00:03:49.120 opinion. And I still explain both sides. But now I've become much more vocal in explaining which

00:03:54.100 side I side with and which side I believe in. Brett Kavanaugh, I remember at the time,

00:03:59.140 I can understand both sides, even if I didn't agree with both sides as much. I thought one side was

00:04:04.300 definitely had a stronger argument than the other. And now, you know, I think now it's time for people

00:04:09.860 to get the facts and then also hear opinions from people they either trust or do not trust,

00:04:15.100 depending on how they view me. It's funny how you describe the law profession, because my husband

00:04:21.040 is also a, you know, he calls himself a recovering or retired corporate lawyer. And he described it as

00:04:26.780 the legal profession is like a pie eating competition, where if you win, the prize is more pie,

00:04:32.140 right? So it's just like a never ending thing there. Oh, it's even more depressing than that.

00:04:38.560 It's like, if you win, everybody's still unhappy, because they've paid the lawyer, however much it's

00:04:43.320 taken however many years. And when you lose, they're even more unhappy. And it was at the point

00:04:48.300 where like, I didn't even feel good when I won. And I sometimes I would win so devastatingly, I would

00:04:52.900 still feel bad, because it involved crushing somebody else. So yeah, pie eating contest, I might pick

00:04:57.860 something that I don't like eating, like a mayonnaise eating contest. Well, that's good.

00:05:02.920 And I will admit, so when I first came across your channel, and it was during the Brett Kavanaugh

00:05:06.360 hearings, I kind of assumed that you were on the left, just because I, you know, I made the assumption

00:05:11.880 because you're a lawyer, I find that most people in the legal profession tend to be liberals, and that

00:05:16.260 you're from Montreal, it was like two strikes against you. So I just assumed, you know, this guy is

00:05:19.880 really reasonable and really fair, because he's presenting both sides. And that's something that I find is

00:05:24.520 totally absent on the political left. And so it didn't, you know, when it sort of came out that

00:05:28.840 you decided to run for the PPC, and your political persuasion became more evident, it's like, okay,

00:05:33.820 no wonder he was being so fair about both sides, because that doesn't seem to be something that

00:05:37.640 the left tends to do very well. I want to ask you, though, as a YouTuber, as someone who gauge on the

00:05:43.860 social media side of things, as sort of new media, what is your view on the traditional media in

00:05:49.060 Canada, in Quebec, you know, we can see the sort of legacy media fading away into relevancy. And,

00:05:55.940 you know, some of the issues with it just being untrusted, unfair, and younger people not engaging 0.50

00:06:03.320 at all, I wonder, what's your perspective on the future of the traditional media, legacy media? And

00:06:09.060 how do you see your role and the role of platforms like YouTube and people doing video blogs, like you

00:06:15.220 do in changing the landscape? I'll preface it, they're liars. And I don't think I ever fully 0.90

00:06:21.860 appreciated it, or I don't think they were as egregious, overt liars as they have become. And I

00:06:26.620 don't know if it's because they've taken so much federal money that they are now indebted to the hand

00:06:30.680 that feeds them. Some people say they were always liars. But I do remember once upon a time, W5, CTV

00:06:37.600 doing investigative journalism, undercover stuff, you know, secretly recorded video stuff to blow the lid

00:06:43.400 off controversies. I remember that in my life, 60 Minutes used to do it. I don't know when they

00:06:49.280 became such liars, or if they were always liars, but I just wasn't aware of it. But they're dishonest 0.98

00:06:54.780 to the point where it can't be incompetence, and it can't be anything but malice or deliberate

00:07:01.120 partisanship. When I discovered this was part of my blue, my red pilling process, when I discovered

00:07:06.680 that, you know, Trudeau effectively bought off the media with I think it was $600 million in subsidies,

00:07:13.100 when I found out that the CBC and Radio Canada are subsidized to the tune of a billion dollars a year

00:07:18.740 by the federal government, it all started to make sense. But with the advent and the explosion of

00:07:24.020 independent media on YouTube, on Twitter, on social media platforms, it became even more in your face.

00:07:29.980 And it became even more like an existential fight for survival, because even with the billion dollar

00:07:36.520 subsidies, they still can't compete, they still are losing traction, they're still losing traffic,

00:07:42.980 and they're losing credibility. But I think it's gotten worse over time, throw money into the

00:07:48.740 equation, it definitely gets worse, throw their existence into the equation, you know, there's the

00:07:53.020 old expression, I forget who it was that said it, but when you fight corruption, corruption fights back.

00:07:57.160 And, you know, the more independent media gains credibility, pushes back and reveals the lies,

00:08:03.580 the more what we called legacy media or traditional media or mainstream media lashes out.

00:08:08.620 But throw money into the equation, and it will fundamentally corrupt a relationship,

00:08:12.920 and it will fundamentally turn what is supposed to be independent media into dependent media,

00:08:18.060 and they're dependent on the government dollars that they're supposed to be reporting on.

00:08:21.100 So you don't need to be Nostradamus to know how that corrupts a relationship.

00:08:26.300 Well, absolutely. And we saw that, we saw the interesting blog post come out from a former

00:08:31.420 CBC journalist that said just that, you know, that the powers that be in society, big corporations,

00:08:36.380 governments amassing power, the CBC doesn't ask them questions, doesn't isn't skeptical about them.

00:08:40.980 Well, of course not. That's, that's who they owe their livelihood to. Instead, they're skeptical of,

00:08:45.340 you know, just regular everyday Canadians who don't hold the correct, trendy left wing opinions,

00:08:49.880 right? For sure. And, and you see the trend, but you also then see it reflected in legislation.

00:08:54.660 I forget if it's Bill C-10 or C-16, the one that wanted to regulate social media, internet,

00:09:00.180 the way they regulate television and radio. And you had a, oh, that guy with the mustache,

00:09:04.680 I forget his name now, the minister of heritage, you know, coming out and saying,

00:09:09.280 we're not going to regulate independent accounts unless they're big, unless they make money off their

00:09:13.020 accounts. Well, that's how you see the political infiltration into the independent media,

00:09:18.740 where they say like all of the subsidies, all of the protection that the government has given the

00:09:21.940 media, the, the, the, the scratching each other's back, still losing ground. So what does the,

00:09:27.020 what do the politicians have to do? Come in and regulate the, the, the wild west of the

00:09:31.260 information landscape, the way they've regulated television and radio. But it has, it's an evolution

00:09:38.100 in process. And you see that the powers that be are going after where the freedom is. And that's why

00:09:43.300 it's, it's important for maybe a separate discussion, but independent, independent content

00:09:47.280 creators, important for them to fight back on this realm where you basically have the government

00:09:51.720 wanting to regulate and control the internet, the way they control television and radio.

00:09:56.620 And it's wild to see it just how, how they're all kind of working in lock, lockstep together. You see

00:10:01.480 social media giants completely silencing any dissenting opinions. And if anything, that just grows the

00:10:07.500 sort of intrigue and interest. I mean, you've seen this with the sort of vaccine skeptic

00:10:11.300 movement throughout the pandemic. It's like any side of the story that's just talking about,

00:10:16.380 Hey, Hey, what are some of the unintended consequences? What are some of the downsides

00:10:19.580 about rushing out these, these, these vaccines? It's like the information just disappears and the

00:10:24.460 people get deplatformed and it kind of raises intrigue. Like what, why are you silencing them?

00:10:29.180 The more that they're silenced, the more intrigued I am. And so they're kind of like doing the exact

00:10:32.880 opposite of, of what they intend to do. It is known as the Streisand effect, but it's also just

00:10:38.160 known as the, you know, eyeopening effect. It's the red pill people are now seeing at the time,

00:10:43.060 back in the day when the vaccine was being rolled out. If you suggested there were potential side

00:10:47.720 effects, even side effects that are known for all vaccines, all of anything that goes into your body

00:10:51.960 can trigger a response. Even if you stated those, you were deplatformed, suspended ban. And then just

00:10:57.220 today CTV comes out with an article that would have gotten you banned probably 12 hours ago, or

00:11:01.960 certainly 12 months ago that the vaccine is interfering with women's menstrual cycles.

00:11:07.920 Whereas had anybody said that a year ago, they would have been banned, deplatformed, you know,

00:11:12.280 depersoned, whatever. And so it is interesting. On the one hand, it's the Streisand effect. But on

00:11:16.740 the other hand, when people see the truth finally come out and they're like, well, the people they

00:11:20.300 were going after a year ago were saying the same things that the mainstream media is saying now,

00:11:24.500 exactly the same thing with the origins of COVID. It was a bannable offense to suggest that it

00:11:30.180 originated man-made in a lab in Wuhan, China. Bannable offense. And now it's become mainstream 0.89

00:11:36.460 media headlines. So when people see this happen in real time, it's eye-opening, it's awakening,

00:11:42.300 but it also causes the powers to fight back even harder, to maintain control over their,

00:11:48.080 they're allowing others to access information and knowledge. And that's what the battle is over

00:11:52.260 right now. Absolutely. I couldn't have said it better myself. And we've seen it so many times. I mean,

00:11:57.120 it's like, you know, you're not allowed to put anything out there that promotes vaccine

00:12:01.180 skepticism. But then all of a sudden the government pulls AstraZeneca because they say it's not safe.

00:12:05.700 They pull Johnson & Johnson because they say it's not safe. It's like, you know, you're giving us

00:12:09.880 reason to be skeptical. Well, David, sorry, I keep calling you Viva. But David, if you, if I wanted

00:12:15.560 to bring you on today to really talk about Quebec, because sort of from an outsider's perspective,

00:12:19.940 there's two things that happen. One, it seems like you guys always have the most heavy-handed

00:12:23.040 restrictions. And then second, it seems like whatever's happening in Quebec eventually

00:12:26.820 happens in the rest of the country. So, you know, you guys had to lock down over the holidays. And

00:12:30.700 then, you know, as soon as a few weeks later, it was like Ontario, BC, Manitoba, everyone followed

00:12:35.300 suit. So you live in Quebec, you live through some of the most severe restrictions. Why is it that the

00:12:41.220 government in Quebec seems to be so heavy-handed about COVID and why do people put up with it?

00:12:46.420 I cannot answer the question. Well, let me, I can answer the question of why people put up with it,

00:12:50.620 but it presupposes or it causes me or forces me to divine intention. I think people are terrified on

00:12:58.220 the one hand, they have been bombarded with, I'm going to call it fake news, fear porn for the last

00:13:03.600 two years, to the point where they are now so scared of a sniffles, so scared of Omicron that I know

00:13:09.960 personally people who have actually isolated their children for 10 days in a house so that the parents

00:13:16.840 don't get exposed to this. People have been traumatized with fear and it's a normal human

00:13:22.260 condition. I think part of being a rebel is like the more people push, the more you push back. And

00:13:27.220 I was of the persuasion where I followed for a bit, you know, two weeks to flatten the curve,

00:13:31.680 let's all do our part. But the more they kept pushing, it's in my nature to push back. And now

00:13:36.060 two years later, I'm off the rails to some. But they put up with it because of fear. Some of them put up

00:13:41.480 with it because it just doesn't affect them. You know, some people have done better under all of

00:13:45.960 this and it has not compromised their lives. If you don't go out at night, if you don't have kids

00:13:49.480 in school, if you don't have a job that was shut down, if you don't have a business that was shut

00:13:54.340 down, if you didn't live a lifestyle that was not affected, or if you can maintain the lifestyle

00:13:58.960 nonetheless, just pay more for travel, do whatever is required in terms of financial expenses to live

00:14:06.520 the life that you've always lived, well, you're not going to complain. Some people have done better,

00:14:09.680 in which case they're not going to complain either. So really it is, it's the middle of the

00:14:13.500 road people who have been suffering the brunt of this, but they have been, they've been forced

00:14:20.180 into silence to some extent, because you can't complain about it because you're selfish. You

00:14:23.840 can't complain about it because you're undermining the science. So for a number of reasons, people have

00:14:30.420 been forced into silence, but I think the more that people speak up, the more that people speak out

00:14:34.140 of others. I don't know that Quebec's been leading this because, you know, they've been, they've been

00:14:38.500 nuts over in the Maritimes bubble for a while. You know, they had the cross-border blockade

00:14:44.400 from the Maritime bubble to Quebec and Ontario. You know, they were prohibiting by way of injunction

00:14:51.240 peaceful assembly protests against the measures in Nova Scotia, Alberta locking up pastors.

00:14:57.560 Canada as a whole has been on the free fall sort of in tandem. Quebec might have a little more

00:15:04.620 liberty, I should say, in pulling away people's liberties because they've already done it enough

00:15:08.420 historically. In the province, we're used to laws that prohibit religious facewear because

00:15:14.040 we've tolerated them pre-COVID. We're used to laws that restrict language rights because they were

00:15:19.520 there pre-COVID. So it comes down to it at the end of the day in Quebec to say, okay, well, just two

00:15:24.200 weeks to flatten the curve. Now we're going to lock in your house. People are so terrified they won't speak

00:15:27.900 out against it. People are so terrified they think it's necessary. And others, too late, you can't say

00:15:33.420 anything about it because it's already there. But it really does feel like we're living through a

00:15:37.440 real-time, real-life Milgram experiment where you have experts, medical experts, Horatio Arruda,

00:15:43.940 literally imposing a curfew that they themselves in real-time acknowledge has no scientific basis.

00:15:49.680 And it's just like, hey, let's just see if this works. Better do something. Because at least if we

00:15:53.500 do something, people are going to think we're doing something and they're not going to think we're

00:15:55.880 doing nothing. Where in this case, doing nothing might have been less destructive than doing what

00:15:59.840 they're doing. But I don't think we're leading the way. I think we have a bit of a precedent in

00:16:04.040 Quebec, given our language laws and given some other laws that we have accepted that limit our

00:16:08.860 freedoms. But Canada's been going downhill pretty quickly, pretty much in tandem. But yeah,

00:16:15.120 you're absolutely right. Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't pick on Quebec, David, because I know

00:16:20.260 one of the most egregious things that have happened in the entire pandemic was when Ontario Premier,

00:16:25.240 Conservative Premier, Doug Ford, gave police permission to stop anybody at any time, any

00:16:30.660 place, to ask them what they're doing out, which is sort of an Australian measure. And one of the

00:16:35.320 most empowering and heartening moments of the pandemic is that the police by and large said,

00:16:41.100 no, we're not doing that. We're not enforcing this unconstitutional, irrational edict. And then it

00:16:47.460 sort of went away. So certainly we've seen madness across the entire spectrum. One thing that I found is

00:16:55.180 that in some ways, the laws that are designed to kind of pick on young people and disproportionately

00:17:01.920 harm young people are sort of like the ones that they get the most attention and are in some ways

00:17:07.060 most popular. I know we saw a group of Quebec influencers on an airplane. You know, they're out

00:17:12.340 of the country. They chartered a plane. It's their own private plane. And yet this elicited outrage from

00:17:17.700 the media and politicians. I know Justin Trudeau commented on it. The idea of a curfew, it really is to

00:17:23.960 impact young people who, by and large, you know, people in their 20s don't really have the same

00:17:29.940 impact from COVID. They don't really die and they don't get sick in the same number. So it's like

00:17:34.260 all of these blunt, heavy-handed measures, they harm young people the most because they're the least

00:17:41.120 likely to get sick and the most likely to have this sort of negative societal effects that will

00:17:45.300 be with them their whole lives. And that's one of my biggest criticisms is just how, you know,

00:17:49.720 rather than like saying, hey, let's just make sure that we protect the most vulnerable. It's like we

00:17:53.720 just have these blanket laws that impact everyone and harm young people. That's not even getting into

00:17:57.920 the impact on kids in schools and forcing little kids to wear masks, forcing little kids to get

00:18:02.800 vaccinated, you know, without the long-term data of long-term side effects and consequences. It's all

00:18:08.800 just been really, really disheartening. It's madness. And I went through on one of my videos

00:18:14.580 talking to some McGill students. They're in isolation in university. If they have unlawful

00:18:19.680 gatherings, they can get suspended from school, forced to pay fines to the government. They're

00:18:24.780 forced to go into, you know, pay for accommodations off campus. Then you get into, you know, the

00:18:30.960 compelled vaccination of teenagers and giving them the vaccine passports. My kid at her school

00:18:36.200 saw people kicked off the soccer field when they wanted to try out for soccer because they

00:18:40.120 weren't fully vaccinated. 13-year-old kids. I mean, this is, it's psychological abuse. It's

00:18:46.180 unscientific. It's unconstitutional. It's immoral. It's everything. And, you know, so without getting

00:18:53.360 too much into that, you know, at the very least in Ontario, your police said, no, we're not going

00:18:57.540 to do this. In Quebec, they're literally arresting everybody who's out protesting the curfew. It's a

00:19:03.440 weird thing. Quebec's police have always been a little, they've been a little, Quebec's police have

00:19:07.900 always had a reputation within Canada, more so than other provinces. But what is interesting is

00:19:12.060 just seeing the powers that be respond to this, who opposes it, who willingly enforces it, who

00:19:16.760 gleefully enforces it. But it's the, I won't say part of the plan, it's just the side benefit of the

00:19:23.940 plan is that when you get everyone dependent on the state or fearful of the state, you get everyone

00:19:28.760 adhering to the edicts of the state, regardless of whether or not they agree with them and regardless

00:19:32.920 of whether or not they're scientific. So the police need their paychecks. The people can't afford the

00:19:37.260 fines. And so you end up having everyone living in fear. And I mean, it is nothing shy of tyranny.

00:19:44.680 And I believe by the true definition of the term fascism, it's nothing but fascism, where you have

00:19:49.480 government working with corporations, working with the media, all having their beautiful orgy of power

00:19:55.520 to reign in the population and basically control every aspect of their life, right down to who they

00:20:02.560 can have in their own house for private gatherings, which are currently outlawed in Quebec, if you can

00:20:06.860 believe that. It's crazy, David, because if you described any of this to us, you know, three years

00:20:12.700 ago, four years ago, that these kind of measures were happening, I would never believe you. You know,

00:20:16.480 if someone said, hey, Donald Trump just got elected, and guess what he's going to do? And he named

00:20:19.880 everything that Justin Trudeau has done in the last year, I would say you're completely wacko, and that

00:20:23.920 would never happen in North America. And yet, here we are, and it's happening. And it's happened. I

00:20:28.360 know, you know, you're, you're a brilliant legal mind, and you are also an activist. So what, what

00:20:33.440 is it that you're doing to push back against us? And what can other Canadians do? Did that say enough

00:20:38.200 is enough? We want our freedoms back, we want to go back to normal, we don't want to live under this

00:20:41.780 medical tyranny anymore? I'm not sure if I'm a brilliant legal mind. And I'm not sure if I'm an

00:20:45.980 activist, because I bought them, end of the day, I, you know, I don't tell people to go out and

00:20:50.980 protest, I don't tell people to go out and break the law. And I don't do it myself. I, I raise

00:20:55.900 awareness, I think I explain what's going on, I explain why I think it's fundamentally

00:21:00.100 unconstitutional, why I think it's fundamentally immoral, and why I think it's fundamentally

00:21:04.200 unscientific in my limited, you know, I'm not a scientist, but I, I have a brain, and I can read

00:21:09.520 articles. And I can also see what the scientists are saying now compared to what they said a year ago,

00:21:14.360 raise awareness, explain what's at issue. I've had these discussions with people over the last two

00:21:19.300 years, like, sure, there's some have said there's a risk the government goes too far. And I keep

00:21:23.520 needling, like, is it too far now? When they pepper sprayed the guy in the face at Tim Hortons,

00:21:27.440 because he wasn't wearing a mask, was it too far then? When they're compelling vaccination of 12

00:21:31.320 year olds? Is it too far now? Third shot in Quebec, or you won't be able to go into grocery stores? Is

00:21:36.680 it too far now? In New Brunswick? Is it too far now? So sometimes, you know, like, I think it was

00:21:40.840 Orwell who said, in times of madness, stating the obvious is a revolutionary act. Just keep stating the

00:21:45.720 obvious. The problem is, I am not sure that people want the change. I think there's a lot of people

00:21:52.620 who are, I won't say beyond the point of repair, but who are certainly in the frame of mind right now

00:21:59.060 that they're double masking outside. And when you have a significant enough portion of the population

00:22:05.040 that thinks that we actually need these measures to stave off an existential threat to our very

00:22:10.740 existence, they will do anything. I mean, it's, who said that Nietzsche, if you can get people to

00:22:17.300 believe the absurd, you can get them to commit atrocities, you know, something along those lines.

00:22:21.440 We're at the point where a large portion of the population are now firmly embedded in believing

00:22:26.400 the absurd. And they, I think they cannot bring themselves to admit that they believe the absurd

00:22:30.280 because it would have to mean that they were duped, which would be an attack on their own

00:22:34.780 intelligence. It would be an attack on their own ego. And so they cannot admit that. And they just have

00:22:39.220 to keep going further and further into the, into the scenario. I won't say the lie out of respect.

00:22:44.840 So I don't know that you can have the change until you have enough people who want the change.

00:22:48.900 I don't think it can be a violent change. I don't think it can be an unlawful change.

00:22:53.020 Because I've been saying this from the beginning, when people say, well, why don't you go out there

00:22:56.640 and, you know, break curfew and break the law? I'm thoroughly convinced that nothing would play more

00:23:01.840 into the hands of the, of the, of the tyrants, of Trudeau, of Legault, than to have people out there

00:23:06.420 breaking windows, breaking the laws. Cause when they did that in old Montreal and they smashed

00:23:10.140 some windows and Lord knows who did it. Cause I don't know that there were people part of the

00:23:13.340 actual movement that did it. What, what happens at police on the street? And so it can't be a

00:23:19.420 violent solution. It has to be a political one because it's not going to be a judicial one.

00:23:24.220 Cause I've seen how the courts are just not doing anything. The courts are not intervening

00:23:28.500 in Quebec. We had a lawyer challenged the curfew on an injunctive basis. The court said,

00:23:33.540 no, not, not a serious enough violation. Les entrepreneurs en action de Quebec, EAQ,

00:23:39.940 sued for the lockdown measures, the face masks. The court said, no, face masking kids is, is,

00:23:45.360 is justifiable because the risk, however minimal is there. The quarantine hotels have been upheld

00:23:49.780 at the federal level. The courts are not going to do anything. There's no judge that's going to want

00:23:54.060 blood on his or her hands by having struck down a law and then have someone blame him for the deaths

00:23:59.560 of someone in an old person home. The politicians are not going to make any change now because they

00:24:03.780 see it's too beneficial to keep pushing this fear. Trudeau himself will never let up on this because

00:24:09.500 this COVID pandemic has been the biggest blessing for Trudeau's reign as prime minister, because

00:24:14.740 nobody's talking about Aga Khan scandal. Nobody's talking about SNC-Lavalin scandal. Nobody's talking

00:24:19.140 about We's charity scandal. There was another one I forgot, which, oh, I always forget the third one.

00:24:24.680 No, the fourth one. Nobody's talking about his scandals anymore. And he gets to go into full,

00:24:29.020 tyrannical parent mode. He's got our backs and it's the perfect distraction. So don't expect him

00:24:35.660 to walk anything back. Don't expect Legault to walk anything back because while he's jamming down

00:24:40.300 these unconstitutional laws, he's trying to jam down other unconstitutional laws. Bill C-96,

00:24:45.260 the reform to Bill 101. So they love it. It's the biggest power grab for the government and they're,

00:24:49.820 they're never going to give back the power. And if the solution is not going to be political

00:24:54.060 by the will of the people, the people are going to live with it. And that's going to be that.

00:24:59.980 It's sad to think because I think you're right. So many people do in some ways benefit,

00:25:03.340 not maybe not necessarily, you know, benefit from the, the overarching fear that they, that they live

00:25:08.060 with. But it's like, you know, if it's the middle winter and it's negative 30 outside and you don't

00:25:12.860 have to go to work, you can just work from home. That's really a lot better. Right. So I think

00:25:17.340 unfortunately, a lot of people have just slid into this sort of comfort and they want to put

00:25:21.660 their safety, they're willing to put their safety ahead of everything else, sacrifice their liberty for

00:25:25.900 security. Um, and, and we know that they'll get neither, but, um, you're right. We, we definitely

00:25:30.700 have our work cut out for us, David. And I'm so glad that there are people like you out there

00:25:34.780 sort of on the front lines of the internet, explaining everything, breaking everything down,

00:25:38.060 helping us stay, um, educated and aware of, of all the various problems. So I, I, I thank you for

00:25:43.500 your YouTube channel and all the work you do over there. And I really appreciate you joining the show

00:25:47.020 today. Thank you very much for having me. It was great.

00:25:48.940 All right. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.

Juno News - January 17, 2022

The moving COVID-19 goalposts in Quebec (Ft. Viva Frei)

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