Juno News - December 09, 2021


The one group of people Canadians openly discriminate against： the unvaccinated


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00:00:00.320 Thousands of Canadians have lost their jobs, their education, and their well-being as a
00:00:05.200 result of vaccine mandates and vaccine passports. They're the one group in society we are now
00:00:10.240 allowed to denigrate, demonize, and scapegoat. And the legacy media refuses to report on the
00:00:16.640 devastating effects of these mandatory vaccines, but we at TrueNorth were willing to do that.
00:00:21.280 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:23.360 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in. You know, if you watch the legacy media,
00:00:31.920 if you tune into the CBC, you would see a lot of scapegoating of the unvaccinated. You would see
00:00:38.240 very visceral reactions. There is an infamous now Toronto Star front page headline that said,
00:00:43.920 let them die. I can't imagine any other group in society being treated the way that our society
00:00:49.600 has been treating the unvaccinated, treating them as if they're barely human, that they don't have
00:00:54.960 the same rights and freedoms as the rest of us. And according to our law now, they don't. They
00:00:59.280 don't have the same rights and the same freedoms as other Canadians, even though they are Canadians.
00:01:04.480 One of the most shocking things of the 2021 federal election this year was the way that Trudeau was
00:01:10.000 openly bashing these Canadians, like as if they weren't actually Canadian citizens, as if they didn't
00:01:15.440 deserve the same dignity, respect and rights as other Canadians. It was disturbing to see. And again,
00:01:21.520 no other group would be treated this way, no other group. And so to talk about this today, I wanted to
00:01:26.080 bring back Samuel Say. We had him on the show yesterday and this is an area that he's really
00:01:30.640 good at as well. So I invited him to come on again today. So if you don't know Samuel, you should really
00:01:35.680 check him out. He runs the website slow2write.com. He's a scholar and a writer based in Brampton,
00:01:41.680 Ontario. And he has a lot of areas of expertise. Usually he's out there investigating and critiquing
00:01:49.120 critical race theory and talking about biblical theory. But one of the things that he did that
00:01:54.400 was really, really useful and interesting was that he created a long form piece of writing about people
00:02:02.560 and their individual stories of how they've been affected, how their freedom has been upended because
00:02:07.760 of the vaccine mandates and their own personal unwillingness to get vaccinated. A really
00:02:12.560 heartbreaking story. So first of all, Samuel, thank you so much for joining the Canada's Welcome Show
00:02:16.480 again today. Thank you for having me again. I appreciate it. Okay, so why don't you tell us,
00:02:21.760 first of all, how did this idea come to fruition? So really, you put out an open call and you heard
00:02:28.000 back from a lot of Canadians. So how did this idea come up and tell us a little bit about it?
00:02:33.280 Yeah, well, it started because I've been following just the lockdowns and especially the vaccine
00:02:42.320 issue. And I was very concerned already that a number of, you know, black people that I that I
00:02:49.760 know a lot of my my family and friends would be heavily impacted by the vaccine mandates. And I was
00:02:56.640 just thinking about how you know, last year, our federal and provincial governments talked about how
00:03:01.200 they they care about Black Lives Matter and everything else. And yet, they're about to push
00:03:06.960 a mandate that would disproportionately harm black people. And I was really bothered by that hypocrisy.
00:03:14.320 And then I reached out to a good friend of mine now Jamil Giovanni, who was an author and a radio host.
00:03:20.800 And he is the Ontario government advocate for community opportunities. So I said, Look,
00:03:26.240 Hey, this is in your area, Doug Ford hired you for this, I would love to have maybe
00:03:33.920 do something with you on this. And he's a great guy. He said, You know what, let's think of something.
00:03:40.000 And then he mentioned, you know, Sam, maybe we should have a place on your website to have people
00:03:45.120 share their stories on how the vaccine mandates are harming them. And then we will share it with the
00:03:50.640 Ontario government, and then see how they how they respond to that. And I can't go in detail, actually,
00:03:56.000 but we know that it did have some impact. Some of these stories have had an impact in their mandates,
00:04:03.520 as much as we don't like the mandates. We know it could have been much worse, if not for these stories
00:04:09.040 that we were able to able to collect. So then I ended up, you know, creating a space on my on my blog,
00:04:14.480 slow to write for people to share their stories. And we've received over 100 entries so far from
00:04:20.480 people across mostly Ontario, but across all of Canada sharing how these mandates are harming their
00:04:27.120 lives. You know, it's really interesting, it's rarely reported that vaccine hesitancy is highest
00:04:33.520 in black indigenous communities. And, you know, we had you on the show yesterday, and we talked all
00:04:37.280 about critical race theory. And we know that so many of these initiatives are sort of in theory,
00:04:42.160 at least designed to help black indigenous people, you know, realize a greater level of opportunity in
00:04:48.240 our society. And yet, at the exact same time as they're advocating, some people in the lab are
00:04:52.720 advocating for these, you know, woke ideological ideas, like critical race theory, or the ideas
00:04:59.600 that come from critical race theory. At the same time, those are some of the loudest voices advocating
00:05:04.240 for really heavy handed measures against unvaccinated. Is there a disconnect here? Like,
00:05:09.520 do the people advocating not realize who the unvaccinated people in large part are?
00:05:14.720 Or, I know, Doug Ford, first, he resisted the idea of a vaccine mandate. He said,
00:05:20.080 you didn't want to create a split society. And yet, you know, that's sort of what we're,
00:05:24.320 what we have at this point. So, yeah, I wonder if you could just address that?
00:05:28.400 Yeah, well, last year, I didn't believe them. And I don't believe them this year as well,
00:05:32.240 that they don't care about Black Lives Matter. They don't care about black people, anything like that.
00:05:36.080 I'm not saying they're racist. I'm just saying that it's all just politics. They'll say anything they need to
00:05:40.560 say to win elections. So last year when, I mean, Trudeau went to the Black Lives Matter rally and
00:05:46.400 bent his knee, admitting that Canada is systemically racist. Well, that would mean then that he is saying
00:05:51.680 that he is the leader of a racist system. That would be him saying that he is a racist. He doesn't
00:05:55.760 really believe that. Of course he doesn't. He's just saying that because he thinks that's what's
00:05:58.640 best for him to do politically in the same way.
00:06:00.880 Well, he also said that he believed that Canada was committing genocide. Not that we did commit
00:06:06.160 genocide. Not that Canada committed genocide in the past, but that Canada is currently committing
00:06:11.280 genocide. So him admitting that would be admitting that he is a genocidal prime minister, which,
00:06:17.200 you know, is pretty wild that he admitted that and then he got away with it. The media just gave a
00:06:21.680 pass to that. But anyway, I'll let you continue because I interrupted you.
00:06:24.160 Virtuous example. It's really bizarre. We live in a society where,
00:06:27.120 you know, the way to get to be seen as a virtuous person is to admit that you're a horrible person,
00:06:32.240 even though you don't really mean it. That's just our society right now. So in the same way,
00:06:36.560 you know, the reason why they're doing what they're doing, even though they know it's harming
00:06:40.960 mostly Black people or not mostly, but it's a personal number of Black people or just people,
00:06:46.160 it's because they know what's best for them. At least they think it's best for them politically to be
00:06:50.480 doing this anyway. So can you can you tell us some of that? I mean, I read through some of the
00:06:55.360 stories. I have to admit, I didn't read them all because I found them pretty just heartbreaking,
00:07:01.200 frankly, to read. But can you can you share some of the like the gist of some of them or some of
00:07:06.960 the ones that you found particularly difficult to read? Absolutely. Some of the most there were
00:07:14.560 a lot. I've read every single one of them and it's been difficult. It's difficult to read them
00:07:19.920 because people are sharing their their difficult, difficult stories. So there are there are many
00:07:25.600 immigrants who've mentioned how they left their countries, they left a communist or oppressive
00:07:31.200 regime to come to Canada for freedom. And then now they're thinking, what do they come here for?
00:07:35.680 Because the same things that were happening with the same things they saw in their original nations
00:07:40.640 are not being happening are happening here where they're not being treated as second class citizens.
00:07:44.880 I heard from from nurses who were like, you know, at the beginning of this pandemic, they're being
00:07:50.800 referred to as heroes. But now they're being told at the time anyway, that if you don't get vaccinated,
00:07:57.360 not only are you not a hero, you know, you know, you're not worthy of working working for us.
00:08:02.480 I've also heard from those one person in particular that was especially heartbreaking for me. This person
00:08:09.120 has a history of I think she's just 18 or 19 years old. She has a history of
00:08:14.000 autoimmune disease in her family. And she herself has an autoimmune disease. And
00:08:20.240 she is supposed to be in her last, I think in a second or last year of of university, she would be
00:08:26.960 the first person in her family to get a degree. Her parents are both, you know, ill and they're not
00:08:33.760 able to provide past the next few years. So they've been relying on her to finish her, her, her degree so
00:08:41.600 that she can provide for the family. And now because she can't get the vaccine because of her
00:08:47.280 autoimmune, you know, disease, she's not able to continue her studies right now. And she was
00:08:53.520 telling me she's depressed. And many people have been saying that their mental health have suffered
00:08:57.680 greatly that she's depressed is crying every day, she has no hope. And it's deeply concerning. We know
00:09:02.560 that mental health and suicide has increased dramatically over the last couple of years over
00:09:07.520 this. And I'm deeply worried reading some of the stories about younger people and older people
00:09:12.320 suffering in light of all this. I also heard people who didn't want to take the vaccine because of
00:09:18.400 their concerns about how it would affect them, but because they were forced to into doing so because
00:09:22.000 of their jobs or school, they ended up having really bad adverse reactions from it. And, you know,
00:09:28.720 so the stories are very difficult to read.
00:09:31.360 Well, it's really excellent journalism that you're doing over there. And it's sort of surprising that
00:09:36.960 the legacy media doesn't do this kind of thing, because we don't we don't see any sympathy whatsoever.
00:09:41.120 In fact, we see the opposite, we see sort of drumming up negativity and demonization. Obviously,
00:09:46.880 we saw it a lot during election, we continue to see it. And it's just sort of, you know,
00:09:51.440 par for the course for the legacy media. What do you think it is about the media, Samuel,
00:09:57.200 that make them so one sided on this issue, you know, so relentless in their sort of badgering
00:10:03.680 that the Canadians must all do this, this thing. And just full disclosure and viewers know this,
00:10:09.520 I'm vaccinated. I decided to do it mostly because I just wanted to get back to regular life. And even
00:10:14.560 after doing it, it's like, we're never going to get back to regular life. You know, we did this
00:10:19.200 because we were told that if we did it, you wouldn't have to wear a mask anymore, you could travel more
00:10:22.960 easily. That's not true, obviously. And now there's a new variant. And they're saying, well,
00:10:28.880 your old vaccine doesn't work anymore. With this new variants, you got to go out and get more vaccines.
00:10:33.600 It's like this is never ending. Right. But specifically back to the media, like, can you
00:10:38.400 can you help me? What do you think it is that makes the media in Canada so one sided on this issue?
00:10:44.400 Yeah, there are a number of reasons why. So full disclosure as well, too, I'm actually unvaccinated.
00:10:50.560 I actually have COVID right now. You already knew that. But I have COVID. I've been taking something
00:10:55.040 other than I am. I'm not against the vaccine. I just don't think I need it. And I'm on day seven of,
00:11:02.400 you know, having COVID symptoms. And besides congesting, I'm OK. I've been taking an alternative,
00:11:08.560 you know, taking vitamins and other things to help myself, you know, to overcome COVID. But I say all
00:11:13.920 that because the media really has become very, very friendly with big government and big pharma.
00:11:20.160 And they don't want to go against the narrative seemingly. So I think that's one. The other thing
00:11:26.320 is, I think they don't want because they're very much pro vaccine, which, again, I'm OK with
00:11:32.560 someone being pro vaccine. That's no problem. The problem is, I think, since they become
00:11:38.160 so tied to the narrative, they're not willing to show the other side because if they show the other
00:11:42.400 side, then some people might realize that, wait a minute, the vaccine is not the only way to to survive
00:11:49.040 against COVID. And I think that's one of the problems. The other thing I think, too, is if you
00:11:56.000 if you show the other side, if you if they were to highlight some of the stories that I'm highlighting,
00:12:01.600 they would understand why the vaccine may not be the best option for everybody, because then you
00:12:06.960 will see some of the real stories of people having really bad adverse reactions from this, and they
00:12:11.680 don't want to do that. So they rather ignore people like myself and the others.
00:12:17.280 Well, I had an interview the other day, Samuel, and the subject said that, you know, a lot of this
00:12:22.960 stuff, they're proving the conspiracy theorists, right? And I feel like that's kind of the case
00:12:28.480 here. It's like they hide stories. So if you get sick from COVID, that's news, right? If you die from
00:12:35.120 COVID, that's front page news. If you get sick from the vaccine or if you die from the vaccine, they bury that.
00:12:40.080 They don't want anyone knowing. And it's like, the more that you bury that, the more people start to
00:12:44.560 wonder, like, hey, what? Why aren't we hearing about this? Why? What's with the discrepancy?
00:12:49.520 People start to sort of look into it and doubt it. And I feel like they create conspiracy theorists.
00:12:54.320 But then also just the way that the goalposts are constantly moving and some of the things that people
00:12:59.920 were predicting a year ago and, you know, oh, we're still going to be locked down. Oh, there's going to be
00:13:04.480 forced vaccines and mandates. People said, oh, that that's a conspiracy. And now we're living it, right?
00:13:08.480 It's like this is like the slippery slope kind of argument. But I mean, you know, and now the next
00:13:15.920 the next thing is little kids, little kids who don't really have it, you know, don't really die
00:13:20.400 from COVID. The hospitalization numbers are so minuscule that the mobility, the fatality,
00:13:26.640 case fatality rate is basically nothing. And yet little kids are getting vaccinated. I read now that
00:13:31.280 they're talking about getting babies vaccinated. It's against COVID, you know, something that doesn't
00:13:36.800 really pose a mortal threat to them. It's sort of bizarre. And I'm sure through your reporting,
00:13:42.320 you realize that the people who are choosing not to get vaccinated, it's not just because
00:13:46.800 they're crazy. It's because they have a health reason or they have a legitimate reason that's sort
00:13:51.200 of being ignored. So what is the sort of big takeaway from your project? You said that you did have
00:13:58.240 a positive sort of interaction with the Ontario government. That's good to hear. But what was
00:14:04.240 the sort of the big the big takeaway for you from the project?
00:14:06.640 Yeah, the big takeaway, honestly, is more discussed with the media. To be honest with you,
00:14:13.840 one of the things that broke my heart more was that people were telling me, Sam, thank you for doing
00:14:18.880 this. Thank you. No one, we don't want anybody out there who's amplifying our voice. And I know there's
00:14:25.760 true north. You know, I know you guys are doing a great job with all this stuff. But legacy media
00:14:30.480 is completely ignoring all of this. So I was just sad that we don't have more people in our nation
00:14:37.440 that will give them voice. That's what I was again, some of them wrote like, wrote, like wrote essays,
00:14:44.080 essentially, because they were finally glad that they could talk about this. And not just so that I
00:14:49.920 could share my blog so that people could see it, but that they knew that some people in the government
00:14:53.680 would be finally able to hear them. So that's the first thing that comes to mind for me.
00:14:58.720 That's great. No, that's really important work. And also, to me, because like I said, I'm
00:15:04.960 vaccinated, but I don't have the I don't have the ideology that everyone must like I don't like,
00:15:10.000 you know, that we were told you get vaccinated to protect yourself, right? So then in theory,
00:15:14.480 it shouldn't matter who around me is vaccinated or not, because I'm protected. Well, it turned out
00:15:18.240 that wasn't really true. Because, you know, they were saying, Well, you know, you can still get COVID,
00:15:22.400 even though you're vaccinated, I think we have to have more empathy and more understanding that
00:15:26.000 there are different paths for different people, we don't all have the same health, we don't have
00:15:30.480 the same bodies, we don't have all the same, you know, backgrounds and underlying issues and age. And
00:15:36.480 there's so many variations among us that why should there be a one size fits all policy, especially
00:15:41.520 coming down heavy handed from the government, some of the some of the negative effects that I read
00:15:45.920 about and that I saw on your blog have to do with the healthcare system. So even though Ontario doesn't
00:15:52.240 have a vaccine mandate implemented for healthcare workers, many hospitals do. So as a result, we've
00:15:57.200 seen delayed surgeries, we've seen patients turned away, we've seen healthcare workers fired, we've seen
00:16:04.160 shortages of healthcare workers, we've seen emergency rooms shut down, you know, our healthcare system is
00:16:10.000 already fragile, it's already, I think, fundamentally flawed because of the sort of single payer state
00:16:16.720 run centralization, and not enough money going into the system. What do you think of our healthcare
00:16:24.800 system? Can it recover from the effects of the vaccine mandate? And how long do you think these
00:16:29.760 mandates will be in place?
00:16:31.000 Oh, man, I, you know, so I'm in the Peel region where every time I hear talk about, I talk about
00:16:39.000 our hospitals being overcrowded, like, it's been overcrowded, well before COVID, what are we talking
00:16:45.400 about? And this is this is verified. This has been a major issue in the Peel region for some time.
00:16:50.760 Nevertheless, honestly, I said, the very first, you know, within the first two weeks of the original,
00:16:58.840 the 15 days to sort of spread. I mentioned that this is not going away anytime. Once you once we
00:17:05.880 become so afraid that we give the government power to protect us from from a virus,
00:17:14.280 we're in deep trouble. I knew that Ben, I knew that then in two years afterwards, we're still here.
00:17:19.160 I have still heard from credible people that there still might be lockdowns coming, or at least most of
00:17:25.880 year restrictions coming. And it seems like with the the new variants, there are, it's become more
00:17:31.800 and more legitimate over time. I don't, unfortunately, I don't see this ending till well into maybe next
00:17:38.120 year or early, early 2023. So I'm forgetting which of these years, but I hope I'm wrong.
00:17:46.120 It's all a blur, right? It's all a blur the whole the last two years. And well, exactly. And you know,
00:17:50.760 saying that kind of stuff, two years ago, would have gotten you called a conspiracy theorist. And yet,
00:17:55.320 uh, here we are two years in, and you still have to wear a mask, uh, just to go inside to get a coffee
00:18:01.240 or to go on the subway or whatever. It's like, it doesn't, you're right, the government got a little
00:18:05.720 taste of the power, and they're not gonna easily let it go. Okay, final question for you, Samuel.
00:18:10.520 What do you think Canadians can do? I mean, there's a lot of people who refuse to get vaccinated.
00:18:14.920 That's their prerogative, all the power to them. Other Canadians that just want to get through the
00:18:19.720 pandemic, they'll do anything just to get through it. You know, to your point that we're giving the
00:18:24.760 government so much power, it's gonna be hard to take it back or for them to relinquish it.
00:18:29.400 What do you think the best thing for Canadians to do in the face of all this?
00:18:32.840 One of the most encouraging things I saw from the vaccine passport stories on my blog is
00:18:42.040 there were a handful of vaccinated people, um, who were saying, look, they're vaccinated,
00:18:48.840 they're pro the vaccine, but they don't, they hate this vaccine, these vaccine passport systems.
00:18:54.760 So they were, they refuse, um, to live as first-class citizens in our country.
00:19:00.040 And that blessed me so much. And I think one of the things people can do is,
00:19:04.120 since most Canadians are vaccinated, reject these vaccine mandates, do not live as a first-class
00:19:09.960 citizen. Because if you live as a first-class citizen, that means then that you are allowing
00:19:13.800 second-class citizens, uh, in your nation. And don't do that. If, if vaccinated people reject
00:19:18.920 this system, then the system will collapse. They cannot, then they can't do anything.
00:19:23.400 So, um, that's what I, that's what I recommend for people to do.
00:19:27.640 That's great. And I, I just heard a story today about someone who did just that, that, that she was
00:19:31.960 going to the, she's going to the doctors, refused, even though she was vaccinated, refused to show her,
00:19:36.920 her card and said, no, I don't have to show it. I refuse. They said, no, you can't come in.
00:19:41.640 She goes, no, I know, I know my rights. I can come in and, and just completely refused. And
00:19:46.200 part of the reason why was because this person was, uh, you know, an immigrant from Eastern Europe and,
00:19:50.680 and, and had seen this, seen this movie before, and it didn't want to participate in a society that
00:19:55.720 demanded to see your papers just to go about your daily life. So, uh, Samuel, I think that's a great,
00:20:00.920 very wise, uh, good words of advice there. And thank you so much for joining the show,
00:20:04.840 sharing, uh, your insight and also just for undertaking this incredibly important,
00:20:09.000 uh, work is sort of telling that, that, that journalism like this isn't happening on the CBC.
00:20:14.680 It's not happening on the mainstream. It takes independent people like yourself to do it.
00:20:18.040 And I definitely applaud you for, for, for taking this on.
00:20:21.240 Well, honestly, I'm just trying to follow, um, you know, your footsteps. Uh, I really appreciate
00:20:24.760 what True North does. So thank you so much.
00:20:27.640 Oh, well, that's very kind. All right. Thank you so much, Samuel, for joining.
00:20:30.600 Thank you for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:20:34.840 Thank you.