Juno News - February 24, 2026


The pro-immigration consensus has collapsed across the West. It’s time for something different


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In this episode of The Candice Malcolm Show, Candice talks about why immigration is the most important issue in our country and why we talk about it so much. She also talks about the dangers of open borders and calls for the government to close the borders.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you
00:00:05.760 today, folks. I want to take a moment to talk a little bit about immigration and why we talk
00:00:10.180 about immigration so much here on The Candice Malcolm Show and on Juneau News for two major
00:00:15.140 reasons, right? Immigration, I think, is the most important issue in our country. Everything is
00:00:20.620 connected to it. So many of the problems that we've seen in the last decade, but really the
00:00:24.400 last three decades leading up to this, are an outgrowth of our policy of more or less open
00:00:30.300 door, open border immigration, where we're flooding the country with new people. Some of them are great
00:00:36.100 cultural fits and they go on to be strong Canadians, just as Canadian as you and I, and others don't.
00:00:41.500 Others just simply refuse to integrate, refuse to assimilate, don't buy into the Canadian story,
00:00:46.980 don't buy into our community, and they don't contribute. And so it's so important that as a
00:00:50.820 country, I mean, we always say, you know, demography is destiny, right? And so when you're letting in
00:00:56.040 lots and lots of people, millions, millions of people, sadly, at the same time, Canadian women 0.85
00:00:59.900 are having fewer children than ever. It's just a matter of time before Canada is not recognizable
00:01:05.540 and it looks totally different. It's not really Canada anymore. We're already starting to see a lot 0.81
00:01:09.940 of that. A lot of people just feel uncomfortable in their own city, in their own town. It doesn't look
00:01:13.880 like it did when we were growing up. It doesn't feel as safe. You know, some of the stories that we talk
00:01:17.660 about on this network, stories like home invasions and carjackings and extortion, right? These are
00:01:23.700 crimes that never used to happen in our country, and now they happen all the time. So much so that the
00:01:28.900 mayor of Surrey declared a state of an emergency because they couldn't handle the number of extortion
00:01:33.580 cases that were happening in their community. It's really unacceptable. So that's the first reason
00:01:38.860 immigration is just so important. And on top of that, we have this culture that is promoted by the elites
00:01:45.520 in this country that put a chill on free speech. And they say, you cannot talk about immigration.
00:01:49.660 You can't talk about these issues. If you criticize immigration, we will call you a racist. And we
00:01:55.020 went through that last week when I had a fellow from the Dominion Society basically just calling
00:01:59.620 for the opposite, right? All of our parties right now say open border immigration and let's flood the 0.99
00:02:04.340 country with new people. And this fellow is saying the opposite. Let's close the border and let's make
00:02:08.980 sure a lot of these people leave, right? And just for having that conversation on our network,
00:02:13.280 we were called racist by a whole host of people, including former immigration minister on the
00:02:17.940 conservative side, Jason Kenney. They do that because they don't want us to have these conversations.
00:02:22.500 They want to promote cancel culture. They want to try to sanitize the national conversations. They know
00:02:27.680 you can't have these conversations. Likewise, when Alberta premier Danielle Smith said that she was
00:02:33.220 going to put it to a referendum. Look, you know, the province isn't doing as well economically as they
00:02:37.320 wanted to. A lot of the problem comes from a flood of people coming into the province, taking advantage of
00:02:43.220 for generosity and abusing social services programs, an obvious problem, and everyone knows
00:02:47.880 about it. And Danielle Smith, she didn't even really get into the depth of it. She just sort of
00:02:52.340 scratched the surface. And for even mentioning it and talking about it and saying that we're going to put
00:02:58.120 it to a referendum in Alberta, almost immediately the NDP came out and called a racist, right? So they try to
00:03:04.300 police the conversation and say, you know, no, you can't talk about these things. We're going to call you
00:03:07.840 racist. We're pushing back against that. And I'm really proud that we're doing that. I think it's so
00:03:11.620 important. Canadians are having these conversations, whether we listen to them or ignore them. So we
00:03:15.600 might as well inform the public of what's actually happening. And it's not just happening in Canada.
00:03:21.080 This is a trend that's happening across the Western world, across the developed world. Obviously, we see
00:03:25.860 it with President Trump. He got elected in large part because of his pledge to carry out mass
00:03:31.000 deportations of the people who are in the country illegally, particularly violent and dangerous 1.00
00:03:35.800 criminals. He has a huge mandate to do that, and he's doing that, right? But it's not just the United States.
00:03:40.220 It's not just Trump. It's also happening in places like the UK, where you don't really expect there
00:03:45.100 to be any kind of a backlash or any kind of pushback to these policies. So I'm very pleased today to get
00:03:50.220 a better insight into what's happening with these policies by welcoming a guest. The guest today is
00:03:54.900 Eric Kaufman. He's a professor of politics at the University of Buckingham. He's authored several books
00:03:59.920 and papers on culture and immigration. He actually grew up in Vancouver, just like me, before moving to
00:04:06.160 the United Kingdom to pursue his career in academia. He's lived there for several decades.
00:04:10.320 So, Eric, welcome to the show. Really looking forward to this conversation.
00:04:13.920 Eric Kaufman- Candice, great to be here. Yeah, lots to talk about.
00:04:17.840 Okay. Well, first, I mean, so last week when we hosted the Dominion Society Fellow, a lot of people in
00:04:23.920 the replies were talking about this political movement from an ex-Reform MP and this new party,
00:04:31.200 this new movement called Restore Britain. So I thought you'd be a great person to come on and
00:04:35.840 just explain what the movement is, what happened and help our audience understand what this pushback
00:04:41.120 is looking like and taking form in the United Kingdom. Yeah. So the UK, you know, like Canada,
00:04:46.560 like Australia, like Ireland, like a number of places had a sort of surge of immigration after
00:04:51.920 the pandemic. And what we know is whenever you get these surges of immigration, populism sort of
00:04:58.720 tends to rise quite dramatically. So the largest, the leading party in the UK now in terms of the polls
00:05:05.360 is Reform, which is led by Nigel Farage and is around 30% of the polls. So it's interesting now,
00:05:13.600 if you look at the Anglo world, we've got One Nation in Australia now is getting close to 30%. You've 0.81
00:05:18.880 got reform on 30%. And of course, in Germany and Sweden and the Netherlands and all over continental
00:05:25.920 Europe, that's kind of where the populist right is across a wide swath of countries, a little higher
00:05:31.520 in Italy, a little lower in Spain, Portugal. But so this is a very Western kind of movement. Now,
00:05:38.240 what's happened in Britain is in the first past the post system, if you are at 25%, you are not going
00:05:44.800 to get a majority of the seats. But if you're in the low 30s, which is where the current Labour government
00:05:49.760 is, you might get a large majority of the seats. So it's very critical for parties that are in that
00:05:54.960 zone to increase their share and reform. Some have argued they have moved too close to
00:06:00.720 the Conservative Party. I'm not sure that's a fair charge, but there are a number of Conservatives
00:06:05.360 defected to reform. And one of the charges is that they aren't talking enough about immigration,
00:06:10.640 or at least when they're talking about it, they're not talking enough about deportation of illegal
00:06:16.320 immigrants. Restore Britain is kind of a new movement led by an individual called Rupert Lowe,
00:06:21.920 who was in reform, who was a reform MP, but who's kind of had a clash with Nigel Farage,
00:06:27.840 and has now set up a separate party called Restore Britain, which is just more hardline. And I suppose
00:06:33.200 would say, well, we have to do complete, we have to deport everybody who's here illegally, 1.00
00:06:37.920 but even go further. And those who are even those who are legal immigrants, if they commit crimes, 0.94
00:06:43.440 or if they're involved in grooming gangs, or if they commit serious crimes, they should be deported
00:06:48.240 as well. So that's kind of a more radical position. And there's been a certain amount of
00:06:53.040 squaring off between reform and restore. But it's worth saying Restore Britain is still,
00:06:57.760 it's not proven itself yet to have a significant polling number. They did put out a poll that said they
00:07:03.360 had 10%. But there are some questions around the methodology of the polling. So but it certainly
00:07:10.320 is a space that's kind of heated up recently. Well, and just the fact that they have this
00:07:15.680 leading MP that is willing to say, okay, we have to go further either than the reform, like folks,
00:07:21.520 you have to know that even the reform party itself is fairly new, right? The British Conservative Party
00:07:27.200 has been in office for many of the last 10 years. And you know, they're the mainstream right of center
00:07:33.200 party, right? And then and then it's reform and restore. So might might see a little bit of
00:07:37.920 vote splitting on that side. I want to get an understanding of the greater picture. We don't
00:07:42.720 cover British politics very much. But I know, it's really interesting what's going on over there.
00:07:46.720 I sort of following it tangentially. But I know that Labour Prime Minister Keir Starmer came under
00:07:52.960 huge amount of fire for something that came out in the Epstein files, with regards to his choice for
00:07:59.280 ambassador to the United States, someone who apparently had a very sordid history. And so I
00:08:06.240 understood that he was probably going to be resigning, talking about Keir Starmer. And yet,
00:08:11.200 he's still there. So maybe you can help us understand what's happening, just at the national
00:08:15.760 level there. I guess, yeah, the problem in a way for the Labour Party is that if you look at
00:08:22.720 who they've got on the bench, they make Starmer look like, you know, Sidney Crosby, right? So I
00:08:28.720 mean, this is the problem. So you kind of have one individual who's probably even more connected to
00:08:34.080 this Peter Mandelson guy who was linked to the Epstein files. Another individuals on the left
00:08:39.760 of the party, Angela Rayner, who I think, you know, I think probably the Labour Party thinks we would be
00:08:45.200 even more unelectable if we went, went down. And she's also got a scandal over her, 1.00
00:08:50.160 over some property that she supposedly didn't pay tax on. So, yeah, it's just a very tricky picture.
00:08:56.560 I'm what I would say is that, you know, if you take the history, you know, Boris Johnson was elected
00:09:02.080 Prime Minister as a Conservative in 2019, with a landslide majority, he was elected mainly on the
00:09:09.360 strength of Brexit votes, those Brexit voters wanted lower immigration, he actually sent it up to levels
00:09:15.280 that had never been seen before in Britain, like 700,000 a year, gross over a million, you know,
00:09:21.120 so crazy numbers. That's why the Conservative Party are essentially been, you know, they are essentially
00:09:27.280 in the toilet right now. I mean, the question is whether they can ever recover. It's almost
00:09:32.160 what happened to the Tories in Canada, you know, in the 90s, when reform showed up on the scene.
00:09:37.280 So that's kind of, it's not clear that the Tory party will survive. That's how grave the situation
00:09:42.880 is for them. Reforms seem now to be the new Tory party. And if they consolidate that,
00:09:49.920 this could be a major upheaval in British politics of the kinds that established,
00:09:54.400 for example, the Labour Party took over from the Liberals. I think it was, I'm trying to think when
00:09:59.280 this was in the 20s or 30s. But you have these major moments when sometimes old parties just get
00:10:04.400 marginalized. We could be in this moment in Britain right now. It's very interesting. So any prediction,
00:10:10.800 like will Keir Starmer survive as Prime Minister? And it's crazy to think of how many Prime Ministers
00:10:15.200 this country has gone through, right? Like Britain has a reputation of being sort of boring and stable,
00:10:19.200 right? And I was just looking back, I think the six Prime Ministers the last 10 years,
00:10:23.440 going from, you know, David Cameron, to, what was it, Boris Johnson?
00:10:28.720 Yeah, on the Tory side. Most of this has been the Tories cycling through different Prime Ministers.
00:10:33.600 There's Trust, Rishi Sunak, yeah. Trust Sunak, and now, well, the leader is now Kemi Badnock.
00:10:41.760 Now, there is a kind of view that the Tories are more likely, if someone's not doing well in the polls,
00:10:46.880 they'll be more likely to turn on them than the Labour Party. The Labour Party is more reluctant,
00:10:52.640 to do this, supposedly. But it also depends on who they have. There is this mayor of Manchester,
00:10:59.280 Andy Burnham, who Starmer blocked from running actually in a by-election this Thursday, which is
00:11:04.480 going to be one to watch, because it's sort of the sixth strongest Labour seat in the country. And
00:11:11.440 it's currently in a three-way split between Reform, Labour and the Greens. If Reform win that seat,
00:11:17.280 that will be an earthquake that I'm not sure Starmer will survive. He's mainly surviving because the
00:11:23.680 alternatives are so weak. What I've heard is potentially that they're going to wait for the
00:11:29.440 May local elections. They have these waves of local elections, and those reflect the national picture. So
00:11:35.840 assuming Labour gets absolutely killed in those elections, they'll want to pin that on Starmer.
00:11:42.400 He'll take the hit for that. Whereas if they put somebody in now, and then they get killed in May,
00:11:46.720 then that will sink their candidacy. So some of the people are saying that in May, they're going to,
00:11:51.200 after those elections, they're going to get rid of Starmer and put somebody else in. The question is,
00:11:55.440 who else are they going to put in? And that's right now looking pretty grim for Labour.
00:11:59.440 Well, it's interesting. I noted that the candidate in that by-election in Gorton Denton seems to be a
00:12:08.320 colleague of yours, a former GB News presenter and a professor. His name is Matt Goodwin, and you've
00:12:13.920 worked with him and co-authored research papers with him on cultural identity, immigration, and the
00:12:19.360 rise of the populist right. So do you have any insight? How's his campaign going? And is he feeling
00:12:26.880 confident about his chances? Well, I think he's certainly doing, you know, he's putting in the work.
00:12:33.200 But I think we have to be realistic in the sense that this is the sixth most left-wing constituency
00:12:38.800 in Britain. You know, so he is relying essentially on the collapse of the Labour Party and a three-way
00:12:45.840 split between. So you've got Labour and the Greens splitting the left-wing vote and him coming in the
00:12:50.000 middle. It's going to be very close. I mean, if he does win it, it's going to be quite an upset.
00:12:56.080 But very interesting one to watch this Thursday.
00:12:58.960 Okay. Well, we'll keep an eye on that for the audience. And I'm just wondering, will
00:13:02.800 Restore Britain and this new campaign have any impact there? I just want to note that even Elon
00:13:07.040 Musk posted on X on last Monday, sorry, on Monday, on February 23rd, joined Restore Britain and really
00:13:14.800 promoting Rupert Lowe and, you know, Rupert saying he's encouraged by the vast number of young British
00:13:20.320 men who are joining up this movement, thousands and thousands and thousands of them, right? So this seems to
00:13:24.800 be a movement that is energized by young men, which to me, reminds me a little bit of the Dominion
00:13:30.240 Society here in Canada. What do you think?
00:13:31.760 Yeah, I think, look, I think that there, it's unclear whether the energy on social media will
00:13:37.680 translate into the voting booth. But still, I think there's an important point, which is
00:13:42.400 they, I think a lot of these movements want to have a conversation about ethnic transformation and
00:13:48.320 that that should be a legitimate conversation. It's not to say white nationalism, everyone who isn't
00:13:53.680 white isn't British has to go. I think, however, and I think some of them do lean that way. And we 0.91
00:13:58.800 have to be honest that there are some of those elements in this, in this party. But at the same
00:14:04.000 time, I think as a society, part of the immigration debate is really about how rapid the pace of ethnic,
00:14:10.400 ethnic cultural change can be given the pace of assimilation. And I think that's, that is a legitimate 0.99
00:14:16.640 conversation to have. And you're right that, you know, typically, that would be passed on as racist.
00:14:20.800 And I think any mention of ethnic change or ethnic composition as a topic immediately gets labeled
00:14:26.320 racist. But, and that is, in a way, a misuse of the, of the term racism, which should be reserved
00:14:32.400 for those who are seeking a kind of ethnic purity or, or white nationalism, which is, you know, exclusive
00:14:37.360 to, to white people. Whereas just saying, well, we want the composition to kind of look like it was
00:14:43.200 when we grew up, which, which is kind of involved minorities as well as a majority.
00:14:47.520 Um, there's nothing racist about that in if, because the, in fact, there's a, in the literature
00:14:53.520 and psychology, there's a very clear distinction between hatred and superiority to the other and
00:14:58.240 attachment to one zone. Attachments to one zone is a very different disposition, which is generally
00:15:03.680 not correlated with hatred of the other. Those things are collapsed together, but in fact, they're
00:15:08.560 separate and we have to, I think until we actually get to a place where we can talk about this kind
00:15:14.080 of ethnic change, which is ultimately what is, I think behind a lot of the, the immigration concern
00:15:19.760 over immigration. I mean, I did a study where when you get white British people to, or not just white
00:15:26.320 British people, actually any British people to think about the kind of scale of the ethnic changes
00:15:30.960 that will occur as a result of higher immigration, they become a lot more restrictionist. And so I think
00:15:36.320 this is, you know, we can't just talk about pressure on house prices and pressure on hospitals.
00:15:41.520 I do think the cultural elements of conversation are very important to have an open debate about.
00:15:48.080 Well, I completely agree. I think that the conservatives in this country, in Canada,
00:15:51.680 they can talk about immigration, but they stay very closely tied to the economic issues and they're
00:15:55.840 very scared and reluctant to talk about the cultural issues. And, you know, going back to the,
00:16:00.800 the cultural identity versus like hatred of others, it's not even really that, like that's,
00:16:05.440 that's at a much deeper level, but just at a surface level, the way that immigration looks in
00:16:10.000 Canada is that we don't really have a lot of diversity. I'll give you an example. I grew up
00:16:14.080 in Vancouver in a neighborhood called Kerisdale, and it was very ethnically diverse when I was growing
00:16:18.880 up. There were a lot of people from a lot of places. Obviously, there was a majority of the
00:16:23.120 sort of Anglo-Canadian that used to be the majority across the country. And, you know, a few years later,
00:16:29.360 like by the time I was finished elementary school, it wasn't that way anymore. It was, it was 70 or 80
00:16:33.600 or 90 percent Chinese because of immigration patterns that happen. And that totally changed
00:16:39.280 the community, totally changed the neighborhood, changed my ability to play sports. We see this in
00:16:43.280 places like Brampton in Ontario and Surrey, British Columbia and Richmond, BC, where it's not diversity,
00:16:50.800 right? It's like, it's actually the opposite. It's just like one national group coming in and
00:16:56.560 displacing everybody else and becoming the monoculture. And I think that that is in a lot
00:17:00.480 of ways what people are concerned about, worry about. What do you think?
00:17:04.880 Well, I think there are two issues. I mean, one is this issue of the monoculture, the Richmond,
00:17:08.560 the Brampton, that kind of thing, which does exist in Britain in certain places as well.
00:17:13.520 But equally, even if we're talking about super diversity in global neighborhoods with 150 different
00:17:18.640 nationalities, I mean, that is not without its issues. I mean, if we look at research on, for example,
00:17:25.520 trust, would you return a wallet? Are you attached to your neighborhood? All of these metrics tend to
00:17:31.440 be worse in those sort of hyper diverse communities, which also have a lot of population turnover. 0.99
00:17:37.440 And I'm just not sure. I mean, this trade off between diversity and solidarity,
00:17:41.840 I think is pretty robust in many studies. And I think that's the kind of conversation we also need
00:17:48.240 to have. And it's also, by the way, the case that, you know, there was an article recently,
00:17:52.080 I think in New York Magazine about a black resident of Brooklyn who was reminiscing about
00:17:58.880 when Brooklyn was black and it had this community feel and that's been lost. People are allowed to 0.82
00:18:04.480 express nostalgia and a sense of loss if they're not white. But whenever we talk about kind of a 0.94
00:18:11.920 majority group or a white group, that's out of bounds, that's seen as racist. It's actually not,
00:18:16.720 it's the same inclination. Now that's not to say that we have to stop change entirely,
00:18:22.320 but actually those claims should have weight and people should be allowed to have that nostalgia.
00:18:28.240 And the truth of the matter is in a lot of the psychological research,
00:18:32.000 a significant part of the population see change as loss, not as stimulating and interesting,
00:18:37.040 and they see difference as disorderly. A lot of that is actually hereditary and it's not something
00:18:43.520 you can learn. If you try and actually teach it to people, you must love diversity, they will
00:18:47.760 actually react. This was a thesis of Karen Stenner, the Australian social psychologist. So yeah, I think
00:18:54.400 until we are mature enough to actually have those conversations and admit that some people want it
00:19:00.080 faster, some want it slower, we have to be allowing the people who want it slower to express themselves.
00:19:05.600 And until we get there, I think we're not going to have a grown up conversation on this issue.
00:19:09.600 So well put. Eric, I want to change gears just a little bit. You wrote a beautiful essay last
00:19:15.040 week, The Crisis of Nationalism on the Canadian Right, and you had some really interesting insights
00:19:19.760 that I just wanted to ask you about quickly before we wrap up here. So you argue that since the 1960s,
00:19:25.360 Canadian Conservatives have shifted from a British rooted patriotism to an American style libertarianism,
00:19:32.400 producing what you call anti-Canadianism on the right. You certainly see that right now with the
00:19:37.200 Trump views. If you're a pro-Trump Canadian, it's like you kind of have to be anti-Canadian and
00:19:42.560 that feels a little weird. And you urged for a renewed national identity rooted in our country's
00:19:48.800 British, French, Indigenous founding peoples rather than one defined. It's such an interesting concept
00:19:54.080 because in most countries, patriotism and nationalism are kind of like a right-wing phenomenon, right? But in
00:19:59.440 Canada, it's the opposite. It's like a left-wing phenomenon. And therefore, it's like knee-jerk,
00:20:03.840 instinctively anti-American, right? And so then what happens for Canadian Conservatives like myself,
00:20:08.880 like I happen to be very pro-American. I love America. I think America is a great country and
00:20:13.120 it's a force for good in the world. And I think that Canada would be much better suited to be aligned
00:20:18.800 closely with the US and to trade with them and to partner with them. It just makes sense, right?
00:20:23.680 And so I even have a hard time navigating it because I like the US. I think President Trump is
00:20:29.040 doing a lot of good things, but I also still love Canada. And so I'm wondering if you could help
00:20:33.280 us sort of navigate, like what should Canadian Conservatives be saying and doing and how can we
00:20:38.240 kind of re-embrace a pro-Canada position while also having conservative values and appreciating
00:20:44.640 some of the things that happen in the US? Yeah. I mean, I think this all goes back to
00:20:49.600 the redefinition, the reinvention or the invention of Canada as the left-wing America, which took place
00:20:55.920 in the sixties with the Pierce and Trudeau liberal governments. So they reinvented Canada as a kind of
00:21:01.040 cultural left America, really, instead of what it used to be, which was a British America. Fine, 0.86
00:21:07.200 the empire was in decline. That wasn't going to be viable going forward, but this reinvention of
00:21:13.280 Canada has alienated Conservatives from the country. And I just showed some polling where if you say,
00:21:19.120 well, if America paid every Canadian a million, should we sell the country? And you get a clear majority 0.96
00:21:24.880 of Canadian Conservatives saying they would, whereas in Britain, most conservative Brits wouldn't
00:21:30.560 actually go for that deal. And I think part of the problem is that because the left has colonized
00:21:35.680 Canadian identity, it's made it unattractive to a lot of conservative people. The solution, 0.92
00:21:40.880 in my view, is to stop making values and universal ideology the prop of nationality.
00:21:48.640 You shouldn't be defining Canadian identity on the basis of universal values. It should be,
00:21:54.240 it should be, yes, of course we have the values that we want to uphold liberal democracy and
00:21:59.120 toleration and so on, but that shouldn't actually define Canadian distinctiveness as much as
00:22:05.200 the particularities of who, who we are, the landscape, the Northern, the Northern landscape and
00:22:11.920 climate, for example, the interaction, the very unique interaction of, of, you know, British Americans with
00:22:18.240 French Canadians with indigenous. I mean, that is really what the country is in its particularity.
00:22:24.160 So letting the kind of particularity of the country and hockey and various other political
00:22:29.120 particular traditions, that should be defined in the country. And if that's the case, then you
00:22:33.600 can be a socialist, you can be a conservative, you can still be a Canadian. It doesn't matter what your
00:22:38.880 ideology is. So we have to somehow find a way of overturning this left-wing definition of what Canada
00:22:47.120 is in order to make it sort of, in order not to alienate people who are on the right.
00:22:51.440 I think it's such an interesting perspective. And I agree, like conservatives have such an
00:22:55.840 opportunity, just given how much Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his Liberals turned their backs
00:23:01.040 on Canada. You have to remember that they're the government that accused the country of genocide
00:23:05.920 that were okay and stood by while statues of John A. Macdonald and even Queen Victoria were toppled,
00:23:12.080 right? So they kind of became almost the anti-Canadian party. They had the flags at halfstaff
00:23:17.200 for over six months, over what turned out to be pretty much a hoax. So, you know, the conservatives
00:23:22.800 have an opportunity to step in and really become the party of Canadian nationalism and patriotism.
00:23:28.720 It's just, you know, you've got the work cut out for them when you're dealing with a trade war
00:23:33.040 against President Trump, so. Well, yeah, I mean, I think you're right. The opportunity to own
00:23:38.640 the Canadian flag, Canadian history from Sir John A. Macdonald on forward, the whole narrative,
00:23:44.800 all that stuff that people actually love, most Canadians love, because the Liberals have painted
00:23:49.520 themselves into this corner with the sort of critical race theories that the colonialists left.
00:23:54.000 Yeah, and the Indigenous stuff, I mean, it is going to take a Prime Minister that's willing to really 0.75
00:24:00.880 unseat the sort of white guilt Indigenous narrative. I think that's going to be central. And you see,
00:24:07.040 you know, in British Columbia politics, the beginnings of that, but that's going to be key
00:24:10.800 to reclaim Canadian history and use it against the left. I think that's going to be a key move.
00:24:17.120 So we're still waiting for leadership on that, but I'm hoping it'll get there.
00:24:21.600 I think that's the direction we're headed, and I'm pleased about that. All right, folks, that's all the
00:24:26.400 time we have. Professor Eric Kaufman, thank you so much. It's always great to have you on the show,
00:24:30.000 and thanks for your insights. Thanks, Candice. It's been a pleasure.
00:24:32.880 All right, folks, we will be back again tomorrow with all the news. Thanks for tuning in. I'm
00:24:36.320 Candice Malcolm. This is Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you, and God bless.