Juno News - August 07, 2021


The questions nobody is asking about the vaccine passports


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00:00:00.000 what do people think they're supporting when they say they support domestic vaccine passports in
00:00:10.980 canada i think we need to break the issue down a little bit more because there's some nuances
00:00:15.720 some possibilities that aren't really being discussed that i think if they were discussed
00:00:20.400 more it might temper people's enthusiasm for the domestic vaccine passports so first of all we have
00:00:26.060 a recent nanos research poll that reports that 53 percent of respondents in canada they say yep
00:00:31.940 they're supportive of a domestic passport vaccine passport then you got about another 20 percent that
00:00:37.020 say they are somewhat supportive of it whatever that means and then you've got 16 percent of people
00:00:41.580 who say flat out opposed okay how does that mix up with the actual vaccination rates in canada well
00:00:48.000 we've got just over 80 percent of people who have received one dose what they call a first dose and
00:00:52.860 then you've got just over 70 percent of people who are who are double double dose what they call
00:00:57.600 fully vaccinated all right that's interesting already because while you've got 70 percent of
00:01:02.240 people yes fully vaccinated only 53 percent of respondents in this poll say that all right i
00:01:08.660 support this domestic vaccine passport it's kind of interesting i've seen a couple news stories
00:01:12.780 actually refer to people who don't support the passport as anti-vaxxers but that doesn't really
00:01:18.760 work that's kind of uh crossing things a little bit there because clearly there are people who are
00:01:23.680 vaccinated either just one dose or they're double vaccinated and they do not support the vaccine
00:01:29.600 passport so it's kind of interesting that the vaccination rate is higher than the support for
00:01:34.380 the vaccine passport now i think a number of people who say yes i support the vaccine passport
00:01:39.720 might be saying that just because they've got two doses of the vaccine they feel like they're covered
00:01:44.600 and and really to them the vaccine passport is just well do you support the government giving two
00:01:49.680 thumbs up to the choice that you have made giving two thumbs up and validating and endorsing the
00:01:54.840 decision you've made and kind of authenticating it and so forth i think a lot of people probably think
00:01:59.220 that way but what if you ask these people who have these two doses do you support a vaccine
00:02:05.220 passport that coming up in a few months or whenever is for three doses basically you'll only get to do all
00:02:13.780 of these things if you have this booster shot because this conversation is already in the mix
00:02:18.040 i don't know to what degree it's going to be pushed to what degree it'll be mandated but when we talk
00:02:22.700 about you know what's the next step lots of conversations about a booster shot about a third
00:02:26.520 dose so if the polling question actually said do you support a vaccine passport for three doses people
00:02:32.900 like what i i thought this was it i thought i was done now you're bringing in this new passport that
00:02:37.340 i actually haven't gotten the shot for i'm not sure the timing of the shot when will the timing of the
00:02:42.020 passport overlap with the availability for my shot and i think people might get a little nervous there
00:02:46.800 because let's be honest once you start this domestic vaccine passport it's something of a
00:02:51.360 pandora's box i mean the sort of requirements for it that that could change i suppose based on booster
00:02:58.420 shots is this going to be something that one needs to get an annual shot for we don't really know yet
00:03:03.920 but will that actually be something included to make your vaccine passport valid and on a related note
00:03:10.260 one other thing that i someone i'm speaking to they said to me you know what's the big deal i mean
00:03:14.320 i'm not in love with this idea of the vaccine passport if we just have to do it for a year or two
00:03:18.860 so be it okay but is that the promise i mean we hear no conversations about exit clauses sunset clauses
00:03:26.380 right now so we're saying let's bring in this domestic vaccine passport i'm not hearing the people
00:03:32.060 proposing it say a one-year passport a two-year passport israel interestingly enough brought in this green card
00:03:37.960 thing to try and get vaccination rates up and they felt like it was successful and now they've removed
00:03:43.260 it so israel actually got rid of at least for now their vaccine passport okay good to see but is that
00:03:50.240 what we're talking about here in canada i don't know there's been no caveats put on the table in the
00:03:54.800 polling questions and the way politicians are musing on the idea so maybe some people say yeah i'm supportive
00:04:00.480 of it for for the two doses is it for the two doses though will it be will it be turned into a vaccine
00:04:05.780 passport for the booster shot so meaning for three doses and then how does that change people's
00:04:10.280 opinions on it and then also is this for a year is this for two years or is it just there and you
00:04:16.400 know it's sticking around until until whenever until 10 years until forever i don't know you don't know
00:04:23.200 nobody knows and i think those sort of nuances they just need to be part of the conversation and
00:04:27.760 and put them out there people are going to have different opinions on them i don't know what the
00:04:31.160 answers are eventually going to be but let's not kid ourselves if there are not these different
00:04:35.240 moving parts to the domestic vaccine passport conversation right here in canada