Juno News - The state broadcaster stands by its FAKE news

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Candace Malcolm show.

00:00:17.920 The balance of probabilities would suggest that I am in fact Candace Malcolm,

00:00:21.880 but all evidence, I believe and hope truly points to the contrary.

00:00:25.660 It is my great privilege, Andrew Lawton, to be here for a guest-hosted edition of Fake News Friday.

00:00:32.020 The fakest news of them all is that this is the Candace Malcolm Show today.

00:00:35.120 But you know what, nay, even in Candace's absence, it's always the Candace Malcolm Show,

00:00:39.020 but I'm happy to be a bit of a seat warmer here.

00:00:41.940 We try to strive for some semblance of consistency, though,

00:00:45.080 so it's my great pleasure to have with us True North, producer and journalist and host of the new show,

00:00:50.000 Ratioed, Harrison Faulkner, joining us on the line here.

00:00:54.000 Harrison, how was the week? I know it's Friday, so we do a bit of a retrospective on fake news,

00:00:58.360 but I'm looking back at your life this week. How's it been so far? Well, it's been a bit of

00:01:02.420 a wild week, Andrew. We've got the travel mandate suspended, not dropped, suspended,

00:01:07.280 which is an important difference. And of course, we've got Bill C-11, which was quietly shuffled

00:01:14.060 in through the back door by Justin Trudeau. So there's quite a lot to get into and looking

00:01:19.060 forward to it and yeah you couldn't shake me this week i i i'm also here for uh for fake news

00:01:24.020 friday yeah believe me i tried but uh you came with the package apparently i kid of course and

00:01:29.160 i will say that that is you mentioned the air travel vaccine mandate that might be like the

00:01:33.420 honorary fake news mention because everyone was reporting initially that it was scrapped and then

00:01:37.860 you look at the fine print as always and it's oh no no it's suspended pending the emergence of you

00:01:43.080 know the omega omicron delta hybrid indian double variant or whatever else is being cooked up in

00:01:49.120 wuhan as we speak right now but let's get to the official fake news friday stories the first one

00:01:54.700 is about the convoy and specifically about the federal government's invocation of the emergencies

00:02:00.900 act which i would say has been the gift that keeps on giving in the last couple of weeks because

00:02:07.100 every time the committee looking into the Emergencies Act meets, someone else undermines

00:02:13.100 the government's narrative that this was police that had requested it. But in this particular

00:02:17.720 case, it was Chrystia Freeland, the Deputy Prime Minister and the Finance Minister who was in the 0.87

00:02:23.060 hot seat. And she was grilled about using a debunked CBC story as the basis for the Emergencies Act.

00:02:32.060 We know government and police relied heavily on media coverage of this, which oftentimes was very incorrect, either because they were missing things or, in fact, they just blatantly misrepresented it.

00:02:43.220 Let's throw to a clip here to set the stage for what we're talking about.

00:02:48.700 March 21st, 2002, the CBC, without any explanation, without apology, without any clarity, retracted their story regarding the funding of the protest.

00:03:02.060 You were aware of that?

00:03:04.220 Again, I'm not speaking for the CBC.

00:03:06.620 I'm speaking for the Ministry of Finance.

00:03:07.400 I'm not asking you to speak for the CBC.

00:03:09.580 I'm asking, were you informed that the CBC retracted the story,

00:03:14.420 the false story, about foreign funding donations to the convoy?

00:03:20.440 I don't believe that the CBC is being interrogated here.

00:03:24.060 I believe it's the government of Canada.

00:03:25.060 Just answer the question, Minister Freeland.

00:03:27.200 Were you aware, yes or no?

00:03:29.660 It's a simple question.

00:03:30.880 I don't have the article before me, and I'm not here to answer questions about the CBC.

00:03:35.000 You, as the most senior cabinet minister and the deputy prime minister,

00:03:39.240 relied upon that initial story from the CBC and shared your concerns with Canadians

00:03:44.280 regarding terrorism funding and money laundering.

00:03:48.340 Your words, correct?

00:03:50.060 Let me be very clear.

00:03:51.700 My principal concern when it comes to the illegal occupation and the illegal blockades...

00:04:02.120 Let me be very clear, Minister Freeland.

00:04:04.520 Your words several times in the House referred to terrorism funding and money laundering.

00:04:11.320 Are you saying you didn't use those words?

00:04:13.540 i am speaking here today and i am talking about the central motivation of our very serious and

00:04:23.920 i'm here to ask you questions and i expect unlike question period i expect a response

00:04:29.780 my core concern as minister of finance and my central justification for these very serious

00:04:39.100 measures that we put in place you're not answering the question i'm going to move on the deputy

00:04:43.740 director of fin track mr mckellup confirmed at committee that the convoy funding did not come

00:04:49.980 from terrorism funding or money laundering and the typical person who donated hundreds

00:04:56.460 and thousands of dollars to the convoy came from their own resources and posed no security threat

00:05:03.340 What I accept, Mr. Brock, is that the core threat was to the Canadian economy.

00:05:09.980 I made that clear in my opening remarks, and that is my view.

00:05:13.520 Thank you for the non-response, Minister. Very helpful.

00:05:20.520 I should, I apologize for not putting a trigger warning at the beginning of it,

00:05:24.400 because that was two minutes of Chrystia Freeland doing whatever that was.

00:05:27.580 But conservative MP Larry Brock not letting go, not relenting, not taking his foot off the gas, talking about the CBC funding, the Fintrack stuff, all of that.

00:05:38.160 And at its core, she says that, you know what, we're not in the business of answering for CBC.

00:05:43.260 And why this is a Fake News Friday inclusion is because CBC decided it would start providing cover for the government.

00:05:51.440 That's my only interpretation that I can come up with for this.

00:05:54.360 a CBC editorial from Brody Fenlon, who is one of the editorial muckety mucks there. And he said,

00:06:00.560 no, CBC News did not retract its stories on convoy protest donations. And he says they stand

00:06:06.920 by their reporting. They go through the list and say, no, no, no, we didn't retract anything

00:06:10.600 at all. We'll get into why that's not true. But Harrison, I want to hear your thoughts first off

00:06:15.720 on that evisceration in committee. Oh, well, it was quite entertaining, I have to say. I mean,

00:06:23.140 I've been trying to watch as much as I can of the inquiry process, trying to keep up with what's going on.

00:06:28.740 And we've seen some high profile testimonies.

00:06:31.940 We've seen the attorney general, David Lometti.

00:06:33.820 We've seen Marco Mendicino testify.

00:06:35.600 But on Tuesday, it was Freeland went up first and then she was followed by Bill Blair.

00:06:41.080 So on Tuesday, it really was one of those one of those special nights on the inquiry.

00:06:45.680 And watching this, it's no surprise, Andrew, that the clip itself and we put it up on True North.

00:06:50.640 it has, I think it has over 500,000 views. And I think it's really just because most people who

00:06:56.440 are- In fairness, like 210,000 of those are me just refreshing and watching it again.

00:07:00.940 Yeah. And then a good number of those are myself. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing that

00:07:07.160 people who are watching the coverage that independent media like True North is putting

00:07:11.180 out are aware of the fact that the CBC or the government relied on a CBC article to invoke

00:07:17.880 the Emergencies Act or heavily relied on CBC coverage because that's what we knew back in

00:07:22.700 February. Anthony Fury wrote in the Toronto Sun that the government relied on a CBC article

00:07:29.540 to invoke the Emergencies Act because I think they weren't getting the answers they were hoping for

00:07:34.200 from the police. They weren't getting the answers they were hoping for from intelligence. So we all

00:07:38.540 knew this was the case. And it really hadn't been brought up, Andrew, in the inquiry process until

00:07:43.240 Larry Brock decided to let Freeland have it and I think she was caught off guard she wasn't as

00:07:48.120 she said she wasn't there to answer questions about the CBC but it was just it was just a great

00:07:52.600 clip to watch I have to say that it was a long time coming too that that someone had to had to

00:07:57.860 field some heat for the fact that they didn't have police to rely on for this they didn't have

00:08:03.080 intelligence to rely on for this all they had was the CBC which Fake News Friday viewers know very

00:08:08.400 well, we routinely mock and make fun of on the show for being fake. So just another example,

00:08:14.160 Andrew, of them doing what they usually do, which is twist the facts and put out fake stories.

00:08:20.740 Yeah. So, I mean, let's just focus on this very easily debunked claim for a moment that we saw,

00:08:26.600 and if we can throw it up on the screen again there, the CBC editorial, no CBC News did not

00:08:31.640 retract its stories on convoy protest donations. So they say they stand by it. They say that,

00:08:37.080 oh, it's misinformation that CBC walked back certain bits of coverage. They say, especially

00:08:43.260 it's referring to stories about foreign donations to the convoy protests that were being made by

00:08:48.820 GoFundMe and GiveSendGo, even though we've had a number of financial experts and GoFundMe people

00:08:53.780 and GiveSendGo people that have testified before that parliamentary committee and others to say,

00:08:59.320 no, no, no, it was the vast majority was Canadian. And there was also, though, this report in

00:09:05.980 Black Locks reporter, CBC Pulls False Convoy Story, and specifically this section. On February

00:09:13.360 10th, in a report about the protest convoy, CBC Radio's The World This Hour incorrectly said,

00:09:20.980 GoFundMe ended a fundraiser for the protesters over questionable donations to the group.

00:09:25.780 No explanation was given. And there have been other examples as well where CBC has corrected

00:09:31.700 this and they've changed this. They've made amendments to it. And they're still claiming,

00:09:36.380 no, no, no, we haven't. Just because we haven't hit the delete button on the story,

00:09:39.760 we haven't admitted that we got the facts fundamentally wrong. And one of them in

00:09:44.520 particular that I think is interesting to point out here, and CBC stood by this one and shouldn't

00:09:50.060 have, was it's reporting on that guy, Martin Joseph Engelhard, who was this grifter that said

00:09:55.360 that his life savings were drained because of the convoy when in actuality he was the one cashing

00:10:00.840 out on. And then he was making money. And then when he went to the media, people sent him more

00:10:04.580 money. And we presented CBC with hard and fast evidence that what they reported was wrong. And

00:10:11.860 they said, no, no, no, we stand by it. So CBC does have a track record. I mean, they did make

00:10:16.940 a lot of changes here, Harrison, but they also have a track record of doubling down

00:10:20.460 when they really shouldn't. Well, yeah. And just to go back, Andrew, to the statement by Brody

00:10:26.780 the editor-in-chief of CBC News. I mean, you cannot issue a retraction and the story can

00:10:32.740 still be false. CBC even admitted to Black Locks that their radio program detailing these accusations

00:10:38.820 of foreign donations and dangerous donations from around the world was false. So they said it was

00:10:44.540 false. And you don't have to release a right of retraction for the story to be actually false.

00:10:49.740 And I think they're trying to play word games here and say, no, well, we stand by reporting.

00:10:53.620 we didn't retract our story. Well, fair enough, but you did admit to Black Locks that your radio

00:10:58.440 program parroting the exact same lines that they had been talking about throughout the convoy

00:11:03.900 protest to give the government some ammunition to basically attack these protesters. Well,

00:11:10.140 they said it was false. So it's just one of those interesting word games by the CBC to say

00:11:16.260 that, no, we're standing by our journalism. We didn't retract anything. But then in March,

00:11:20.400 actually, they admitted that what they wrote was false. So just one of those interesting

00:11:24.880 facts about the CBC, they tend to do that. And as you said, talk about primary evidence with

00:11:30.840 Martin Joseph Englehart. You interviewed him on the show. I mean, how much more accurate can you

00:11:36.460 get other than that? But then let's talk about our next story here, Andrew, because as we talked

00:11:42.840 about at the beginning of the show, this week has been a little bit crazy. Along with dropping the

00:11:48.500 or suspending the vaccine mandate, Trudeau very quietly ended debate, ended any sort of

00:11:54.620 parliamentary scrutiny over Bill C-11, a sweeping internet regulation bill, which will basically

00:12:00.680 force streamers or social media content providers to put forward what the CRTC determines to be

00:12:07.800 Canadian content. And basically, the heritage minister, the person overseeing this bill,

00:12:14.280 of course, took out the usual liberal line these days of accusing anyone who disagrees with him

00:12:19.860 of misinformation. So if conservatives disagree or if conservatives not disagree, but take issue

00:12:25.540 with the specific bill, no, no, that's not legitimate. It's misinformation. Well, we have

00:12:32.200 a clip from Tim Upple, who's the conservative MP in the House and grilled the liberals for this

00:12:40.120 exact thing for stopping debate on a major piece of internet censorship legislation. Let's watch

00:12:45.720 that clip. Mr. Speaker, as we just heard, the Liberals have shut down debate on Bill C-11.

00:12:52.000 In fact, MPs voted on over 100 amendments without any debate at all. The Liberals are actually

00:12:56.900 changing what Canadians see online without debate and behind closed doors. It is clear from expert

00:13:02.240 testimony that this bill will allow CRTC to regulate user-generated content. That's why

00:13:08.700 through a series of vital amendments

00:13:11.000 where the Conservatives tried to fix this bill.

00:13:12.980 But our common sense amendments were shot down

00:13:15.280 by the Liberals and the NDP without any debate.

00:13:18.860 When will the government listen to some reason

00:13:20.820 and fix this disastrous bill?

00:13:23.500 The Honourable Minister for Canadian Heritage.

00:13:27.200 Mr. Speaker, I think that the Conservatives

00:13:30.020 should support this bill

00:13:31.440 because this bill is about creators.

00:13:34.620 It's about creators.

00:13:36.000 It's going to help them

00:13:37.420 because they're very very creative with the truth mr speaker that's what they are now if they read

00:13:45.020 the bill they would know that it's about it's about online platforms contributing to our culture

00:13:50.060 and they have a problem with that it's a shame mr speaker so andrew uh we we put forward canadian

00:13:58.460 content all the time at true north in fact we only do canadian content but something tells me

00:14:02.620 that the CRTC isn't going to give us as fair shake as they may give to someone like the CBC

00:14:07.860 or the Globe and Mail. Yeah, I'm just more offended by the fact that he failed to land

00:14:12.960 a very easy joke. I mean, this is Canadian comedy, though, because you don't actually get the punch

00:14:19.120 line. You get something that vaguely resembles a joke. And we're going to be seeing more

00:14:22.340 Pablo Rodriguez-approved humor, which is to say not humor at all. So yeah, you are right. And

00:14:28.720 again, as a Canadian media outlet, some people might say, well, yeah, you should be liking

00:14:32.440 this. You should be liking the idea that you're going to have more Canadian content profiled,

00:14:36.440 except what people fail to realize is that it's liberal approved Canadian content, Canadian

00:14:43.320 government approved Canadian content. And so much of this is really dependent on regulations that

00:14:50.720 aren't even in the bill, what CRTC will ultimately come up with down the road. And there is something

00:14:55.540 very insidious about literally a bill that people think is going to regulate speech being having

00:15:02.020 debate suspended so you can't have the robust debate and discussion you need on that and

00:15:07.380 and i think you were right to point out harrison that it is this this double standard of yeah we

00:15:11.780 were the only ones that are the authorities on truth everything else is misinformation

00:15:16.420 yeah no exactly and and the the the real problem with this uh with this bill andrew is that

00:15:23.380 what we know is is the liberals have told us many times pablo rodriguez has told us

00:15:27.860 many times that this bill bill c11 won't regulate user generated content it won't impact what you

00:15:34.660 the viewer might be posting on social media might be putting out there uh however the people in

00:15:40.500 charge of overseeing the regulation the crtc have admitted the exact opposite we wrote in true north

00:15:47.220 that the crtc confirmed in the committee that in fact yes user generated content that means

00:15:53.700 what you watching this show right now what you post on social media will be regulated under bill

00:15:59.220 c11 and the government doesn't want to allow mps the people you vote for to represent your interests

00:16:04.980 in the house of commons to vote or well to debate this issue at all i mean it's it's just frankly

00:16:10.420 shocking stuff and and and really i i think it's just one more drop in the bucket of of trudeau's

00:16:16.260 larger plan which is to increase the size of government all the way through social media

00:16:22.260 through what we see on on the internet which was never the intention of the internet and frankly

00:16:27.140 it's just all going a little bit sideways these days when when the size of government is expanding

00:16:32.260 so far and so rapidly that now the government is telling us what is and what isn't canadian content

00:16:37.300 and it's just it's just crazy yeah and i think this ties in very well with our next story which

00:16:42.980 we've covered at true north the fact that trust in legacy media has reached an all-time low and

00:16:50.180 this is from a report by the Reuters Institute and Oxford University. They found in their 2022

00:16:55.440 digital news report that only 39% of Anglophone Canadians say they trust most news. This is a

00:17:03.580 16% drop over 2016. A little bit more in the French media, 47% of Francophones trust more

00:17:10.820 news, which is an 8% drop. Now, whether Francophones are more gullible or French media is better,

00:17:16.500 I'll let you be the judge of that. I'm not going to get that or will definitely not be approved

00:17:20.860 media if the Liberals have their way. But the combined rating for Canada-wide is that most news

00:17:26.840 has 42% trust, and that's a drop of 13% in a period of about six years. And I would suspect,

00:17:33.440 and I don't know this for a fact, that that drop has mostly been in the last two years because I

00:17:38.680 think COVID has been the real game changer in plummeting trust. And the reason I bring this

00:17:44.860 up and tie it into the story we were just talking about, Harrison, is that we are right now seeing

00:17:49.680 that Canadians are less willing to go along with things just because they're put in front of them.

00:17:55.660 And I think we know Canadians are being more eager to pursue independent media because they

00:18:00.900 aren't trusting what they're getting. And this leads into a lot of people saying, well, that's

00:18:06.040 just misinformation. No one's looking in the mirror and saying, wait, maybe we are the problem

00:18:11.000 for putting information out that people don't find trustworthy.

00:18:15.000 Right. And I think this is a broader trend across the board. As you said, this is definitely

00:18:19.720 a factor of the last two years. People are starting to realize that the sources they

00:18:24.540 used to be able to trust are no longer serving their needs. They can see through what's going

00:18:29.560 on. And I think this is a broader issue we're seeing where trust in our institutions across

00:18:34.460 the board, Andrew, have dropped precipitously. And it's really, I think, a problem. But like

00:18:40.760 you said, we're not really seeing the legacy media take these criticisms on board. We're not

00:18:47.960 really seeing them change their reporting or their style at all to try and regain trust. What we're

00:18:53.400 seeing, in fact, like we talked about at the top of the show, is the CBC digging their heels in

00:18:58.280 to back up a government which they know had no justification to invoke the Emergencies Act. And

00:19:03.960 I want to go through some more of this article because it highlights the outlets that Canadians

00:19:10.120 or that uh yeah that canadians distrust the most i was i was wondering if it was an anglophone or

00:19:14.920 francophone thing but no this is across the board and it says and andrew i'm totally surprised to

00:19:20.060 see this but apparently it says cbc news the toronto star and cp24 are some of the most

00:19:26.880 distrusted or yeah have the highest levels of distrust cbc has the highest level of distrust

00:19:32.880 not possible i i find it hilarious i mean you mentioned something before we started i was about

00:19:39.260 to steal your joke but i figure i'll give you credit for it uh because you said that cp24 is

00:19:43.460 like 90 weather which i think is right and then and i was thinking the other 10 is traffic so

00:19:47.860 it's like if even people don't trust the traffic and weather reports on cp24 i think there's a big

00:19:52.960 problem in canadian media but you're right cbc news we're told that we need to put more money

00:19:57.620 more money into this that's the problem we need more investment canadians love it they love

00:20:02.220 schitt's creek and they love i mean i can't oh there's a joke there that i don't think i'm

00:20:06.560 allowed to say. They love Schitt's Creek, but they don't like CBC content on news because they don't

00:20:11.320 trust it. And this is very Trudeopian in a way, because Trudeau will always say that, well, you

00:20:17.460 know, anytime he gets caught, it's all a learning opportunity for all of us. And this is the media's

00:20:22.060 approach too. When we don't trust them, it's because, well, we need to be better. We need to

00:20:26.720 be smarter. No, exactly. And I mean, the CBC, the Toronto Star and CB24 are pretty much, I mean,

00:20:35.160 at this point, what we see from the Toronto Star is not that different from what we see from the

00:20:39.460 Globe and Mail. And sometimes, although we do have lots of friends at the National Post, we do

00:20:44.180 see sometimes they'll pick up Canadian press articles and they'll be, in a way, kind of

00:20:48.440 parroting the exact same reporting as what you'll see from the Toronto Star. And I just think that

00:20:53.620 really what we're seeing is, across the board, a huge lack of trust in our institutions. And I

00:21:02.000 think that'll have significant issues down the road the more we go with this until until things

00:21:07.700 until things change and until these outlets actually start to take responsibility for the

00:21:11.840 situation that they find themselves in now we we wrote this up at true north uh last week and this

00:21:18.860 is this is not really a surprising headline but i think one that does reinforce what we're talking

00:21:23.360 about here which says leftists approve of legacy media coverage conservatives believe they are

00:21:27.820 mistreated. And that was a poll that basically showed that 67% said that media coverage of

00:21:33.540 their political views, 67% of conservatives said that media coverage of their political views was

00:21:38.360 unfair, while only 22% said that the coverage was fair. And 61% of the respondents identified

00:21:48.280 themselves as being on the political left, said that the coverage of their political views was

00:21:52.960 fair what a surprise andrew that uh all the liberals that are in these legacy media outlets

00:21:58.640 represent the left of the political spectrum fairly and the people on the right don't feel

00:22:03.600 well represented i mean i think that uh i think this statistic just shows to people why they

00:22:08.160 should be watching coverage like like like what we have at true north because clearly what's going on

00:22:14.160 is is not in the canadian's best interest yeah i mean anytime you see an outlet that tends to be

00:22:20.880 hit by both sides it's probably an indication that outlet is doing something good because

00:22:25.680 no side is thinking they're great i mean right now you get the left that says oh why can't all

00:22:29.360 media be like cbc and the toronto star and you know people on the right saying oh why can't it

00:22:33.680 all be like i don't know the toronto sun or fox news or whatever but it's like in reality you need

00:22:38.080 someone that's going to call a spade a spade or you need to as a consumer uh gather your news from

00:22:43.200 different perspectives here i want to see if we can squeeze in one more here because i think this

00:22:47.520 is related to all of this. And it's this idea that if people don't trust institutions, if people

00:22:52.760 don't trust the mainstream media, it's because they're the problem. They're the ones that aren't

00:22:57.140 enlightened enough. This story has been making the rounds, an abacus poll that found 40% of Canadians

00:23:04.660 are conspiracy theorists. Gasp, shock, horror. Who knew? 40% of Canadians are conspiracy theorists.

00:23:12.020 Now, what does that mean? Well, I don't want to do a full point by point breakdown of the poll

00:23:17.160 because I think there are some methodological errors here

00:23:19.900 that do need to be addressed.

00:23:21.060 But generally speaking, they polled 1,500 people.

00:23:23.960 They found that, oh, 44% of Canadians believe big events

00:23:28.220 like wars, recessions, and the outcomes of elections

00:23:31.000 are controlled by small groups of people

00:23:33.200 working in secret against us.

00:23:35.560 I mean, that's just a sloppily worded question.

00:23:38.460 Like governments are small groups of people

00:23:40.340 working, often secret.

00:23:42.620 One third of Canadians believe

00:23:43.920 in the so-called white replacement theory.

00:23:45.840 And again, this one, there are a lot of problems with the question that we should do a delve into.

00:23:50.960 This one I find hilarious, though.

00:23:53.520 One in five Canadians believe it is definitely or probably true that the World Economic Forum is a group of global elites with a secretive strategy to impose their ideas on the world.

00:24:06.080 I think that's their mission statement.

00:24:08.600 Like, I literally, that is exactly what the World Economic Forum is.

00:24:12.240 Now, that doesn't mean they're, you know, microchipping us and pulling the strings on everyone like marionettes, but they literally are a small secretive group that meets in the Swiss mountains.

00:24:20.820 I covered them a few weeks ago, and they have all these ideas that they want to impose on the world.

00:24:25.800 So that's, I mean, that's not a conspiracy theory.

00:24:27.940 That's public policy.

00:24:29.300 But here's the problem, and you tie this all in.

00:24:32.460 Anyone who disagrees with the narrative that's being peddled by the so-called authorities is called a conspiracy theorist.

00:24:40.300 This word means nothing now.

00:24:42.240 Well, it means nothing, Andrew, because you can be a conspiracy theorist and then you can be a prophet five months later, basically.

00:24:48.740 I mean, that's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth it feels like these days.

00:24:53.920 And of course, well, of course, what they'll do is they'll basically they'll lump in the most absurd claims with the people that that believe, for example, like the World Economic Forum is a small group, as you said, that want to push their ideas into people.

00:25:07.780 So they'll take legitimate issues, legitimate problems that people have and concerns that people have, and then lump them in with the most absurd and most crazy far-fetched ideas and then put them all together.

00:25:20.920 And really, if you go through this article, this National Post article, what you quickly realize is that this is just a Canada bashing article.

00:25:28.560 They were looking for an attention-grabbing headline to talk about, of course, the white replacement theory.

00:25:34.680 they put in, as you said, Andrew, a, you know, there's lots of talk about the methodology of

00:25:41.360 this poll. But of course, what they were looking for was the big attention grabbing headline that

00:25:46.640 said millions of Canadians believe in the white replacement theory. And the truth is, it was 1500

00:25:51.320 people, of which 500 of those 1500 randomly selected people agreed with a sloppily worded

00:25:59.080 question. Now, Andrew, as well, the thing that we all know about polls these days and what I've

00:26:04.700 come to realize over the past five or six years is that pollsters, legacy media pollsters and

00:26:10.380 pollsters that have been around for a long time have consistently failed to accurately poll

00:26:15.000 people who are traditionally on the right. That's why we've seen some crazy polling that indicates

00:26:20.560 something that is not actually going to end up happening or come true. We saw it in 2016. We

00:26:24.740 saw with brexit we see it all the time that that poll pollsters seem to be just unable to pull a

00:26:30.880 good number of the population of our country so i wouldn't put much stock in polls you see that that

00:26:36.140 have crazy headlines like this but again it's all it's all part of this this idea that we need to

00:26:42.260 play up the mistrust in institutions or at least demonize people who rightly i think have specific

00:26:49.500 concerns that uh end up being labeled as conspiracy theorists like i said i mean

00:26:54.620 a conspiracy theorist may end up being a prophet in a few years you just never know at this rate

00:26:59.180 yeah and again i mean you are right about the sloppy wording of this thing and polls that tend

00:27:03.660 to under represent people on the right and a lot of the time that isn't deliberate to the pollsters

00:27:08.540 there's a natural selection bias in how polls are accessed i mean any poll that's done online

00:27:14.700 is going to carve out certain people that are not on the internet that are not as adept at

00:27:19.340 it. So there's an age bias in there. You also have people that don't have cell phones sometimes

00:27:24.240 are excluded from how they get access to the numbers because they'll get a laundry list of

00:27:28.600 mobile numbers. And it used to be that they were only pulling landlines. So you'd miss people that

00:27:33.460 had cell phones only like, so there are a lot of areas where even if there's not malicious intent,

00:27:38.100 they're not capturing a whole sample, which is why extrapolating from a sample of a thousand to

00:27:43.480 a country of 36 million is difficult. And I just want to pull up one just before we close things

00:27:48.500 out here. Because I got an online poll months ago that I screenshotted and tweeted about

00:27:53.780 from ECOS conducted for the World Health Organization and the Canadian government.

00:27:58.620 So have fun with that one. And they were gauging conspiracy theories as well. And one of them was

00:28:04.460 to use a scale to indicate how likely it is that each statement is true. One of the statements was

00:28:10.080 I think that government agencies closely monitor citizens. Well, I do think that. And I don't think

00:28:16.640 that makes you a conspiracy theorist but if i were to put yes i'm 100 certain of that they're going

00:28:21.840 to use that to say oh yes this many canadians are conspiracy theorists i believe there are

00:28:26.860 important things that happen in the world which the public is never informed about

00:28:30.220 yeah that seems reasonable i think there are secret organizations that influence political

00:28:34.920 decisions yeah i mean that you you can believe these things in broad strokes and not be a

00:28:40.880 conspiracy theorist. But now we're in this era where as anyone who says something even remotely

00:28:47.220 critical of this narrative is seen as a conspiracy theorist. And all it's doing is trying to

00:28:54.320 marginalize people and say, well, we shouldn't listen to them. They're stupid. They're troglodytes. 1.00

00:28:58.660 We don't need to represent them. Politicians don't need to speak for them. And in the end, 0.97

00:29:03.120 you have a society that is increasingly polarized. So we've rambled on a little bit here. And I say

00:29:07.980 We, I have rambled on a little bit here, but thank you for indulging.

00:29:11.700 Harrison Volkner, thank you very much.

00:29:13.280 How can people learn about your new show?

00:29:15.280 Well, you can go to, you can find it on our website, tnc.news, and you can also find it

00:29:19.920 on YouTube, Rumble, and Facebook.

00:29:22.760 So where you find Andrew's show or where you find Candice's show, you'll see my show as

00:29:26.940 well.

00:29:27.160 And we've got new shows that are coming out at True North.

00:29:30.300 We also have Rupa Subramania, who recently joined us, who launched a podcast.

00:29:34.560 And at this rate, like I said on my show last yesterday,

00:29:38.500 it was, you know, at this rate, who knows,

00:29:40.800 you may be having new shows pretty much every month.

00:29:42.820 So you can find my show at the same place you'll find Andrews and Candice's

00:29:46.360 on YouTube, on Rumble, on Facebook, and on our website.

00:29:49.520 You didn't mention the name in that.

00:29:52.360 Ratioed.

00:29:53.140 Ratioed.

00:29:53.340 There we go.

00:29:53.980 Yeah, that's the name.

00:29:55.480 I was trying to say, like, tell us the show,

00:29:57.280 and you did everything but telling us about the show.

00:29:59.100 But Ratioed, it's a great show.

00:30:00.940 Rupa's show, fantastic as well.

00:30:02.320 And if I can Vanna White, this thing over here, there we go.

00:30:05.700 New book coming out next week, The Freedom Convoy,

00:30:08.220 the inside story of three weeks that shook the world.

00:30:10.340 Thanks to all of you who have pre-ordered that already.

00:30:12.720 Harrison Faulkner and Rulotan in for Candace.

00:30:15.100 We'll talk to you soon.

00:30:16.000 Thanks, everyone.

Juno News - June 17, 2022

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