Juno News - The Toronto Star really hates the Canadian flag

00:00:00.000 hello everyone and welcome to another edition of fake news friday true north preeminent show

00:00:16.400 detecting the lies the smears the misinformation the miscues the mistakes the hot takes all of

00:00:23.080 that even the cold takes every now and then i am andrew lawton in for candace malcolm joined as

00:00:28.680 always by harrison faulkner host of the fantastic true north podcast ratioed harrison how was the

00:00:34.660 week pretty good pretty good we've got some we've got some usual suspects in the show this week

00:00:40.180 andrew we've also got some got some things we've always touched on which is this weird hatred of

00:00:45.460 the canadian flag so you've got quite the lineup that we're uh we're gonna get into so looking

00:00:50.240 forward to it yeah and it's also i should say calgary stampede week which is home to most of

00:00:56.000 the fake news of everyone trying to pretend that they are in fact albertans or even like that they

00:01:02.000 like westerners so you'll see all these politicians and uh folks wearing cowboy hats do not be deceived

00:01:08.160 though here on fake news friday we will ourselves stampede through the hearts and minds of canadians

00:01:13.740 as only we try to humbly of course uh let's actually start off on the stampede though because

00:01:19.280 ctv did this thing where a headline says a lot sometimes about an outlet more than about a story

00:01:26.660 they used two photos to i would say misrepresent trudeau's calgary stampede one is from 2018 and this

00:01:37.020 is one as as people have pointed out here of trudeau just you know moseying about doing his thing

00:01:42.500 through the crowds the other is from a liberal fundraiser uh and then well what happened here

00:01:48.120 harrison so so what we have here andrew is is actually perfect for this show it is the absolute

00:01:54.640 definition of fake news and this trudeau trip to the calgary stampede really i think it was straight

00:02:02.180 out of a movie skit it was a total disaster from start to finish so they understood that right away

00:02:07.140 and all of a sudden the liberal spin doctors had to really kick it into high gear and get going so

00:02:12.960 what we have are two perfect examples of fake news the first one as you said andrew is ctv using

00:02:19.140 photographs of trudeau pointing out to the crowd looking all famous and looking like a star

00:02:23.660 but those turned out to be years ago those photos are from one of them is from 2018 and what we then saw

00:02:30.980 was perhaps the most absurd propaganda headline i've ever read uh and of course it was from the

00:02:38.740 canadian press as a wire service so when it gets written in the canadian press all these legacy media

00:02:43.500 outlets buy the article and then publish the exact same article in their on their website so what we had

00:02:50.480 were headlines coming out of the calgary stampede that read trudeau mob by admirers happy stampede trudeau

00:02:58.660 mob by throngs of admirers as the national observer wrote and the globe and mail and the toronto star

00:03:05.120 and ctv news they all wrote this they all republished this canadian press story andrew that said trudeau

00:03:11.320 mob by admirers at stampede breakfast only one outlet got the message the day later it was the globe and

00:03:17.820 mail they very quietly changed the headline and the headline change went from trudeau mob by admirers

00:03:24.760 at calgary stampede pancake breakfast to trudeau references inflation and ukraine at the calgary

00:03:31.700 stampede so really just a slight change there andrew nothing too drastic i don't think anyone noticed

00:03:36.780 yeah i mean just as far as trudeau admirers go here here's one clip that i think shows all that

00:03:42.900 admiration you can just hear and sense and feel the admiration uh shouting down to justin trudeau

00:03:49.100 will you take my hand home in a freedom play

00:03:52.260 thank you thank you you had your 20 seconds there was a pleasure 1.00

00:03:56.440 are you 20 seconds you common ass go trudeau you're nothing but a commonest pig 1.00

00:04:03.320 that's what you are you're disgusting 1.00

00:04:06.720 political prisoners 1.00

00:04:09.840 ah yes you had your 20 seconds i'm moving on that's what you say to your admirers isn't when

00:04:17.440 people are shouting at you with their cheer and their joy and their love and their adoration

00:04:21.860 that that i know that's what it sounds like in fairness to trudeau that may be about as

00:04:27.060 admiring as it gets as of late uh but it's the media covering for it and that's i think the big

00:04:32.960 story here always is that you know politicians are going to get heckled politicians are going to be

00:04:37.500 met generally speaking with i think similar crowds wherever they go trudeau when he goes to alberta

00:04:43.200 in election campaigns he he does like an 11 30 p.m rally because he doesn't want to waste time in

00:04:48.880 the daylight in places where he's not going to win any votes i mean he's got that one mp there that

00:04:54.240 is i think a disgraced mp at this point george jahal that he was at uh flipping pancakes and all that

00:05:00.640 but this was not a friendly place for him and when when media says that i'm like i didn't even need

00:05:06.160 to look at the videos to know i'm guessing he wasn't met by a mob or a throng or even a gaggle

00:05:13.040 of admirers in the general public at the calgary stampede i didn't like i i knew that was wrong

00:05:18.080 before i even saw the footage and that so it's no surprise they ended up having to backtrack a bit

00:05:22.480 there well it was i mean the article is still up all over the internet andrew so it's only really the

00:05:27.040 globe and mail that we have found that have actually you know changed their headline to be

00:05:31.440 somewhat representative of the truth because it's always as if these these journalists aren't

00:05:36.560 thinking about the fact that everyone is recording everything especially when the prime minister shows

00:05:41.280 up in their own backyard they're going to have their phones out they're going to record these so-called

00:05:45.680 admirers and if you're hearing that video clip uh it sounds as though in one of those clips those

00:05:51.760 admirers might be calling him a traitor i'm not sure andrew that that doesn't sound like total admiration

00:05:57.680 to me but then again i'm not a canadian press journalist so i don't really know what their

00:06:03.520 definition of admiration uh you know what their definition of admiration means because it almost

00:06:09.840 sounds as though i can hear the word traitor being used at justin trudeau uh and you know like i said

00:06:15.360 this this whole calgary trip this whole stampede trip was a total disaster from the beginning he not

00:06:20.960 only did this pancake breakfast at a public library kilometers away from the stampede grounds when

00:06:27.520 the conservatives were in the heart of the stampede and then again it is alberta so it is sort of

00:06:32.400 their their province where they have more most of the support but it's pretty ridiculous to say that

00:06:37.920 trudeau was met by admirers or mobbed by admirers at the stampede when he's not even at the stampede

00:06:42.800 grounds and to be fair to trudeau he actually did go to the stampede but when he went there he went

00:06:48.640 there when there was no one around so he went into he toured an empty stadium he toured empty grounds

00:06:55.280 and they did their absolute best to make it look as though trudeau was mod by all these admirers i

00:07:00.160 mean that headline is straight out of like a china people's daily article andrew it's ridiculous mod

00:07:06.240 by admirers it's it just honestly i think at this point we should all recognize that there really isn't

00:07:13.680 a depth too low for these canadian press these legacy media journalists to go and some people made

00:07:18.720 the comment on twitter that it was almost like an inside joke that someone made a joke about making that

00:07:24.480 the headline of the article and then all these legacy media outlets didn't recognize it was a

00:07:28.880 joke and they just went with it and all of a sudden there there we go there's this propaganda like 0.60

00:07:33.680 pravda like headline of of trudeau and his admirers in alberta it's it's just ridiculous and i will make

00:07:40.000 one more point about the stampede and about how all these politicians dress up and they put on the

00:07:45.920 they put on the cowboy attire now i i understand i'm not an albertan but it seems very bizarre to me to

00:07:52.640 have someone like trudeau play dress up as a cowboy uh you know it's it's almost like it's

00:07:59.440 almost like making a caricature of albertans and being like hey look i'm like one of you guys i'm

00:08:03.920 just like a regular albertan look at me in my white cowboy hat with all my rcmp wearing the exact same

00:08:08.960 hat it's it's so ridiculous to me i just i don't understand it i i think look i i'm gonna give him

00:08:14.560 some i'm gonna give him some slack on that one because as far as trudeau's costumes go this seems like

00:08:21.520 one of the less offensive ones he's done like we're talking about a guy that did like brown

00:08:28.320 face and a turban so as far as cowboys and indians go he's done the indian costume and that offends 0.99

00:08:34.080 everyone and the cowboy costume i feel is is a little bit less offensive but nevertheless one

00:08:39.840 thing i will say he used the opportunity not just to do the glad hand but also to do what i'm gonna call

00:08:45.280 pancake pandering because while he was uh flapping flipping flapjacks he was flapping his gums and

00:08:53.040 talking about ukraine and inch by very dramatically inch by inch step by step he was talking about the

00:08:59.280 progress that justin trudeau was making on saturday this is a piece in the globe and he says this is a

00:09:04.720 moment to gather and to celebrate being together once again and then he talks about ukraine he said

00:09:10.240 we're facing more challenges with the war in ukraine with the global inflation crisis so i believe he

00:09:15.360 was solving those uh one flip at a time uh around the mob that never was uh let's talk a little bit

00:09:22.240 about another i'll say non-admirer and that would be patrick brown's spokesperson vis-a-vis true north so

00:09:31.520 true north has been really leaning into covering the conservative party of canada leadership race we have a

00:09:36.000 lot of people in our audience who are conservative members or at the very least interested in

00:09:41.680 conservative politics so i've been on my show doing these long-form interviews with all of the

00:09:46.800 candidates we've been talking to as many of them as we can we've been covering their policy

00:09:50.880 announcements and we we had a lot of difficulty getting an interview with patrick brown he was the

00:09:56.240 only he was our last candidate uh to speak to in this race and it was very difficult and now he's

00:10:02.000 been disqualified from the race i'm not saying the two are connected but i am saying that we were

00:10:06.240 actually trying from the get-go to uh cover patrick brown and we have covered all the races well we

00:10:12.240 wrote yesterday a story noah jarvis at true north wrote a story that was a very solid story about how

00:10:18.560 even though he's been disqualified he's still fundraising for his leadership campaign to the

00:10:24.480 conservative party of canada membership list so he's still well being disqualified fundraising this is

00:10:30.320 the story we'd write about any candidate and in true good journalistic faction noah reached out to

00:10:35.760 patrick brown's campaign and specifically his campaign spokesperson chisholm pothier and

00:10:42.000 the statement we got back is absolutely fantastic here can quote me so this is the entirety of his

00:10:50.400 official response maybe you guys should stop being a newsletter for polyev and do some actual journalism

00:10:57.440 or maybe just organized another of the worst conservative leadership debates ever dealer's

00:11:02.480 choice we received the list that was given to us at the time to communicate to the members on that list

00:11:08.160 we continue to do so are you diligently exploring rumors of full-time consultants being paid by their

00:11:14.720 companies to work on polyev's campaign because that would be actual journalism so by the way this is

00:11:21.440 the first time i've heard this rumor so i can diligently explore the rumor all i want but the

00:11:26.640 story that noah was writing was not about a rumor it was about a fact which chisholm pothier confirmed

00:11:34.320 in the third and fourth lines of this statement which i think can best be characterized as a rant and

00:11:42.160 it's funny because when we've criticized pierre polyev whether it was on you know bitcoin or just pushing

00:11:47.760 back on some of his statements on on various policies people say oh yeah you're shilling

00:11:52.400 for this candidate or that one so this is like not the statement you give to endear yourself to

00:11:58.000 any media outlet is it harrison no it's not and i wonder how many media outlets have interviewed all

00:12:03.120 of the candidates given them and being very careful to make sure that we give them all the same amount

00:12:07.680 of air time and not to favor one or the other so obviously we've done our part but there's so many

00:12:12.560 ways you can go into this this statement it's it's pretty much just gold uh from start to finish

00:12:17.920 starting with can't quote me and ending with uh you know some some rumor that would be actual

00:12:22.880 journalism if we investigated it but it's kind of interesting because part of me thinks that at this

00:12:28.480 point in the patrick brown campaign they have nothing to lose they're out of the race they've already

00:12:32.480 he's already endorsed john charay right at this point it would be kind of fun almost you could just

00:12:37.120 really throw anything you want out and and attack we want to attack make jokes so part of me kind of

00:12:42.080 understand maybe they're just letting loose uh but also this is pretty fiery from patrick brown's

00:12:48.160 spokesperson it would almost be kind of interesting to see if patrick brown would have used this sort of

00:12:52.960 language and attacked his opponents or attack the attack justin trudeau or attack the left in the

00:12:57.280 campaign with this kind of energy i think that'd be kind of entertaining it would have would have

00:13:00.880 probably spiced up his campaign a little bit don't you think well i mean certainly his fundraising emails

00:13:05.680 like patrick brown was going after pierre pauliev in all of his recruitment emails i i did a search once

00:13:11.120 and i at some point in the campaign i can't remember when it was it was like of the 20 emails

00:13:15.920 he had sent out like 17 of them were about pierre pauliev it was pretty crazy but the funny thing is

00:13:21.360 like patrick i've known patrick brown for many many years and he's always very friendly and amiable in

00:13:26.400 person so like i i ran into him after the debate in edmonton the first uh official conservative

00:13:32.400 leadership debate and i've been like trying now for i don't know a week or two months or however long to

00:13:37.280 get him on the show and then he's he like comes up he's like andrew when can i come when am i coming

00:13:41.360 on your show and i'm like you tell me like how about right now so he's always very friendly so he

00:13:46.240 wouldn't even do this in person uh but you know he you have the hatchet men who work on campaigns that

00:13:51.280 are either moonlighting as you know just anti-true north renegades or whatever or perhaps this is an

00:13:58.080 official you know campaign position that we are supposedly a pauliev newsletter but i think one thing

00:14:04.640 you'll find is that there are no outlets in the what what you know we hear as the legacy media that

00:14:11.120 are covering the conservative leadership race on the issues that matter to conservatives and i think

00:14:16.240 there's there's something quite telling about a campaign that doesn't seem to see the value in that

00:14:22.240 a campaign that wants to use cbc and globe and global to get out its message while trying to woo

00:14:28.640 conservative members and it we know it just doesn't work no exactly and and if we we have to

00:14:34.560 talk about this point about the debate the worst conservative debate ever uh that's okay hang on

00:14:40.880 which one i don't know if he was talking about like the independent press gallery debate from 2020

00:14:47.040 or if he's talking about like the canada strong and free debate that candace malcolm and jamil javani did

00:14:51.520 i'm i'm trying to figure that out no exactly and and what are we are we going to consider the actual

00:14:56.960 conservative party of canada debate the one that they put on where the moderator the moderator was

00:15:01.760 asking all the candidates about their favorite books their favorite food their favorite music

00:15:06.240 or are they going to talk about the one in which the candidates actually let loose actually had some

00:15:11.360 you know had some actual dialogue and real debate it's ridiculous so are we are we do are we to assume

00:15:16.160 that the debate put on by the party where they were asked questions about their favorite books and

00:15:21.840 their favorite tv shows to binge is that better or worse for members than a debate that acts that

00:15:27.440 asks the candidates real questions i mean that that debate was a was a total mockery of the process

00:15:35.200 of the conservative party itself and the membership whereas the the debate hosted by the canada strong

00:15:40.640 and free network was a legitimate debate and then the ipg debate was a fireside chat because the

00:15:45.600 candidates didn't even end up going i mean what yeah and brand yeah and brown turned down this year's one yeah

00:15:52.240 no exactly it's it's a very bizarre very bizarre line to take and and i think there's probably

00:15:57.120 there's there's better ammunition better targets for them to go after than to talk about the debates

00:16:02.000 in which i think if you were to poll and every conservative member i think the overwhelming majority

00:16:07.520 would side uh on the side that says no the canada strong and free debate was a legitimate debate

00:16:12.480 the conservative party english debate was a total joke it was a total farce of a debate

00:16:17.280 yeah no i i think you're you're very right on that let's move to this one here i'll let you take the

00:16:23.840 lead on this one uh the toronto star again not i would say always in touch with canadians this story

00:16:30.240 it seems they're not particularly in touch with canada either well it's it's that's one way to put it

00:16:35.680 they're not really in touch with canadians andrew i think some people might have uh more you know

00:16:40.800 more serious language to uh to use about that but the toronto star has for some weird reason spent a

00:16:48.240 long time talking about why they hate the canadian flag why the canadian flag needs to be you know

00:16:54.240 needs to you know we need to stop flying the canadian flag or talk about the issues with the canadian flag

00:16:58.480 they do seem to have an issue with it and this latest op-ed by them it probably takes the cake

00:17:05.040 as the number one piece of lunacy that they've published about the canadian flag i i hang on

00:17:10.480 that's that's an ambitious that i i would not say that because they've probably uh published loony

00:17:15.840 things that you know compete with this certainly for a tie well i mean andrew this op-ed is telling

00:17:21.600 us that the way to reclaim the canadian flag is to fly the pride flag beside it so i mean we can say

00:17:27.360 the you know we we've heard the left talk about the canadian flag being a symbol of those evil nasty

00:17:33.600 truckers we've heard the left talk about how the canadian flag is is this it's been co-opted by far

00:17:40.400 right groups this is i think to me this is this is pretty serious to say that actually the best way to

00:17:46.960 reclaim the canadian flag is not to fly the canadian flag with with more you know excitement or to fly it

00:17:54.480 you know in different places no no it's to fly the canadian flag beside the pride flag

00:17:58.880 in order to reclaim the flag we need to fly it beside the pride flag this is what it says uh about

00:18:05.040 this it says one possibility is the co-display of flags whereby co-branding is exercised the idea

00:18:11.280 to seek symbols that can be perceived as strong compliments and signal the values desirable to be

00:18:15.600 aligned with yes so not only do we want to fly the fly the pride flag beside the canadian flag we're

00:18:21.360 trying to take on the the meaning of what it means i want to take on that pride flag meaning into our

00:18:27.200 country in practice such an approach was observable when walking past the canadian embassy in seoul korea

00:18:32.640 during july 1st holiday weekend a more sizable rainbow flag was visible along to the canyon flag so

00:18:38.320 it's great andrew our embassies in other countries on canada day are flying the pride flag a more sizable

00:18:46.320 pride flag on the canadian buildings just a great direction i think we're all heading in

00:18:51.360 you know one of the things i find fascinating so this year for pride i i didn't actually see many

00:18:57.040 pride flags because the old pride flag of the rainbow colors has been replaced by a new pride

00:19:03.040 flag which i had never seen before you know two months ago so i i might my position on this is fly

00:19:08.240 your pride flag fly whichever version of it you want i mean canada's flag has changed over time so

00:19:13.200 we can add more colors to the pride flag but i i vehemently reject this idea that the canada flag

00:19:18.960 cannot stand on its own and fly on its own without needing to be qualified by something so the idea

00:19:25.680 that we would need to have the canadian flag next to the pride flag to be happy with the canadian flag

00:19:30.960 at that point like just change the canadian flag then i mean because clearly you don't think it's

00:19:34.800 something worth flying and you know when people like justin trudeau supported lowering the canadian

00:19:42.400 flag to half mast indefinitely over canada day throughout the election it was something that

00:19:50.160 people like me were bothered by because symbols matter flags matter and what he was saying is that

00:19:56.400 this is not a country we can be proud of and this is not a flag we can be proud of and this is the

00:20:01.120 direct consequence of that because you're telling canadians that your country is broken and i don't

00:20:06.720 mean broken in the sense of it's doing all these policy things we want to change but fundamentally

00:20:11.120 structurally a bad place and this is i think what's happening now so the idea that there are people

00:20:17.520 like the toronto stars reporters here cbc's reporters some pollsters that say yeah this is

00:20:22.960 actually offensive anyone who flies the canadian flag is is doing something offensive and the only

00:20:27.840 way i mean a canadian flag well if you if you put up a canadian flag you're probably a trucker

00:20:31.760 sympathizer unless it's a canadian flag next to a pride flag that's how we know you're really inclusive

00:20:36.720 it's like at what point do we just say you know what screw the whole thing canada doesn't get to be a

00:20:40.720 country anymore no and and the article actually says andrew exactly the point you just made the

00:20:47.040 article in the article the toronto star writes while the rainbow where pride flag is a symbol of

00:20:51.840 the lgbt community the commonly associated proclamation love is love has wider applicability

00:20:58.640 the co-display of flags near the building's front entrance cues that canada aspires to be a nation of

00:21:04.240 diversity and inclusiveness so canada is aspiring to be a nation of inclusive inclusivity and diversity

00:21:11.920 uh do we have to aspire to that or is canada probably one of the only countries that does that

00:21:18.160 in the way that we do i mean maybe we should try to be you know better should we try and emulate the

00:21:22.720 middle east or some asian countries that maybe maybe that would be better for us you know through

00:21:27.680 co-branding the canadian flag can be effectively reclaimed is what they say now constant attention must turn

00:21:33.280 to providing passports so they put that spin on it as though they're not really they're kind of

00:21:37.280 pretending not to be so serious but of course they're serious andrew this is what they actually

00:21:40.560 believe this is what people like this really believe that if you don't if you fly the canadian

00:21:45.280 flag on its own you must be some nationalist some evil nationalist someone who's proud of the country

00:21:51.840 that they shouldn't be proud of because we're not we're not inclusive enough yet we're not diverse

00:21:55.440 enough yet the only way that they think it's acceptable to fly the canadian flag is if you

00:21:59.840 fly it beside a pride flag and who knows at this point the rainbow flag sooner or later might become

00:22:04.720 a hate symbol because it doesn't have that weird south african style uh pride progress flag with the

00:22:10.720 with the triangle in it now you know so it's just absurd and i do believe based on the other headlines

00:22:17.520 that toronto star has written about the flag see john k over a quillette tweeted a photo of all the

00:22:23.520 different toronto star op-ed headlines about the flag you know we've got the freedom convoy

00:22:27.840 convoy occupation of ottawa besmirched the canadian flag the innocuous canadian flag the ottawa occupation

00:22:33.920 move was to step away from that naivete when i see the canada flag now it hurts my heart as freedom

00:22:39.920 convoy returns was a tug of war over the maple leaf so it's all i told you they had loonier stuff there

00:22:45.120 in the archives well it depends what it depends i mean it's all it's all these people talking about

00:22:49.440 the op-ed regarding the freedom call about you know freedom convoy related stories this is now saying

00:22:54.560 unless you fly the canadian flag beside the pride flag you are you are promoting racism you are

00:23:00.720 promoting uh some sort of nationalism that you're not that we're not allowed to that we're not allowed

00:23:05.360 to uh i don't know what's worse andrew we're gonna have to perhaps agree to disagree or leave it up to

00:23:10.480 the audience to see what they think about what's worse uh the the stories about the the freedom convoy

00:23:16.880 and the flag being a representative of the freedom convoy are having to fly the flag beside the pride flag

00:23:22.640 something that i think is just absolutely ridiculous something that i think you know we

00:23:27.040 should all say we've we've gone a bit too far here we're not flying a rainbow flag beside the canadian

00:23:32.320 flag on all of our government buildings don't tell that to justin trito though because it will happen

00:23:37.920 i just like that they use the word co-branding so now the idea is for the government to use like

00:23:42.560 instagram influencer language and corporate jargon so we'll be doing synergies we'll be doing co-branding

00:23:47.920 we'll be doing partnerships we'll be doing it all and it starts at your local government office

00:23:53.120 uh let's let's close things off with a fun one here this was one you found harrison

00:23:57.200 yeah so this is another a great cbc news story keeping canadians informed and really living up

00:24:02.080 to their mandate andrew because with a price tag of 1.4 billion dollars a year 1.4 billion dollars to

00:24:07.360 give canadians timely factual news to make sure all canadians are in the in the know about what's

00:24:12.880 going on in our country so of course thank goodness the cbc feeling a little like they

00:24:18.080 were perhaps not keeping canadians informed enough on wednesday wrote an article by this uh

00:24:24.800 by this woman see it's getting very confusing these days andrew but i'm gonna go with woman

00:24:29.440 because the name is renee renee yoxon uh this they wrote an op-ed from renee yoxon who is a let me just

00:24:36.720 get this right here renee yoxon is a voice coach a gender affirming voice coach excuse me not just a

00:24:43.920 voice coach a gender affirming voice coach and the cb this op-ed is talking about how people have the

00:24:50.160 ability andrew to feminize or masculinize their voice while they're going through their gender

00:24:56.080 transition so there's a video of this cbc news published this video because it's important to

00:25:01.200 remind canadians this is what your taxpayer dollars are going to when you see this stuff this is where it's

00:25:05.760 going so of course they write they write this long op-ed about feminizing or masculinizing your voice

00:25:10.400 but who really reads those these days they put out a video for us a tick tock andrew and we're just

00:25:15.360 going to watch this and i want to get your reaction to it as you're watching it let's play this video

00:25:20.000 my name is renee yoxon and i'm a gender affirming voice teacher from montreal today i'm going to prove

00:25:24.560 to you that you already have everything you need to create a speaking voice that you love using one

00:25:29.040 quick exercise everything i need start i'm going to have you say a small cute key key key key key key

00:25:38.560 now try a big relaxed one minute andrew come on oh oh oh oh if you're trying to masculinize your

00:25:47.040 voice i want you to say that big relax what am i doing and then memorize that shape and use it when

00:25:52.240 you say it big and relaxed okay so oh is the masculine word oh oh okay i got to do the hands

00:25:59.040 key key key now if you're trying to feminize your voice i want you to say that small and cute key

00:26:04.960 memorize that shape and then hold it when you go and say oh oh like a woman oh i can't say oh the way

00:26:12.240 like key and oh are different oh creating a speaking voice that best represents your gender identity is

00:26:17.200 something that the pitch isn't even changing like i don't even do like out okay i'm just trying to

00:26:21.280 figure out how i'm supposed to like keep my mouth the shape of when i say key while i say okay key oh

00:26:30.240 they're different words this is like this is like miles above my head this is like a level of complication

00:26:36.880 that i i have not mastered yet like i i just thought you could just raise the pitch like i can go oh or i

00:26:42.720 can go key like that i didn't i didn't need an exercise for that are you saying andrew that renee

00:26:48.880 has not taught you how to feminize your voice properly yet because it is in it's in all of us

00:26:54.240 we have the skills in all of us andrew so you got to keep working on it we'll have to come back to

00:26:58.960 it next week i think when you've had some time to practice you've worked on your keys and your o's

00:27:04.720 uh memorize the shape that's what she says and i think you know this is the kind of content that

00:27:10.960 without without it i don't know where we'd be as a country andrew yeah i mean i'm fearful

00:27:16.320 but this will just demonstrate to cbc that they need to do like a longer video that i've

00:27:20.240 i've not sufficiently grasped this uh so i i need to go back go back to the drawing board so i okay

00:27:26.400 can you do the key o thing because like i like i just thought if you wanted to sound like a woman you 1.00

00:27:31.040 raise your voice if you want to sound like a man you lower your voice that like the keo thing just 0.98

00:27:34.720 confused me more no well i i'm also in the same position i i'm not exactly sure when she says

00:27:40.560 memorize those shapes you know say it big and loud or say it cute like key is a cute key i i i

00:27:48.080 i'm not there just yet either i think we have some we have some we have some some studying to do

00:27:53.920 some cbc studying to do yeah and i feel like when i do the o i've just like called a crow to my

00:28:00.720 house door i feel like i feel like i'm doing this eventually you're just gonna hear birds

00:28:03.920 slapping up against the window because my o is not as a renee did a better o than i did my key was 0.55

00:28:09.040 pretty strong renee renee is clearly the expert here and again i just that's why she's the coach 0.99

00:28:14.720 that's why she's the coach exactly i i do worry about you know there's a lot going on these days

00:28:19.920 in the country you know there's a lot of news but this is the kind of thing that keeps us all sane

00:28:24.560 right it keeps us all on a level playing field when we see this we go okay we're we're still living

00:28:28.640 in regular times things haven't totally gone nuts uh our our public broadcaster is teaching us

00:28:35.440 how to masculinize and feminize our voices i mean that's just really at this point it's just par for

00:28:39.920 the course of the cbc you know i i'm told that true north has started a tick tock recently i feel

00:28:45.040 like we need to get like the key o challenge going and get all of our you know true north fans to like

00:28:50.480 let us know how they make out on that but if you guys do better than i do we maybe have to do a

00:28:54.960 follow-up next week and we'll play your your masculine your masculine o's and your feminine keys 0.99

00:29:00.800 and you're we and there's got to be like a non-binary word in the middle there that we can do

00:29:04.720 as well we don't leave out the non-binary yeah masculine feminine that seems kind of like one

00:29:08.560 or the other i didn't know that that's where we were i didn't know that's where we were i thought

00:29:11.600 we were past that but we were a few at least a few months past that that we can we can be whoever

00:29:16.560 we want to be we can find some place in the middle that fits us best yeah i mean my whole thing

00:29:21.600 here is that the old ethos that i used to be told and that i used to hear told to other people was

00:29:29.040 be who you want to be so the idea that now it's have performance that if you want to be who you

00:29:33.920 want to be you have to like fundamentally change yourself is i think moving in the the opposite

00:29:38.560 direction of progress but nevertheless i will uh we'll work on my phonics uh my phonics sounds and my

00:29:45.280 phonemes and all of this and we'll we'll have to get back to you later on this thanks for making me

00:29:50.400 subject myself to that harrison it's all you've got some work to do with that andrew i i have to say

00:29:54.800 uh harrison fulkner host of ratioed on true north and yours truly host of the less creatively titled

00:30:01.280 andrew lawton show on true north andrew lawton we will be back next week with more fake news friday

00:30:06.960 here on true north thanks everyone have a great weekend and we'll talk to you soon

Juno News - July 15, 2022

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