Juno News - January 12, 2019


The True North Report： Build that wall! Build that wall!

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sanctuary status and illegal migrants illegal migrants from the U.S
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True North
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Justin Trudeau Kate Steinle Abdullahi Hassan Sharif Candace Malcolm Stephen Harper Linda Sanchez Marissa Shen Mary Holland
Leftist Laurier professors are still targeting Lindsay Shepherd Trudeau's town hall roadshow is all talk and no action. Just like him.

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Candice Malmquiste talks about the border wall, immigration, and Justin Trudeau's town hall style answers to tough questions from the public. She also explains why Canada needs to revert back to some old-fashioned immigration policies.

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00:00:00.000 Hi everyone, Candice Malcolm here with True North coming to you live this Friday afternoon or evening and I want to talk about the wall. I want to talk about a couple of stories in Canada, specifically a news report that was put out by the Canadian press that touches on an exclusive report that I did about 15 months ago that talks about illegal migrants who are living in the U.S. who are then able to come to Canada and Canada facilitates this.
00:00:30.000 It's been giving these folks visas and letting these folks stay. So while everyone in the world is talking about the standoff between Trump and the Democrats and whether or not the U.S. is going to finish building the wall and complete the border wall along its southern border, I want to talk a little bit more about why Canada needs to revert to some old policies that we used to have, pretty common sense policies that say that if someone is illegally living in a neighboring country
00:00:59.820 an allied country, chances are probably not going to follow Canadian immigration rules either and it's probably not the best idea to be importing these folks. So I'm going to talk about a couple cases today. First, I just wanted to say Trudeau, Justin Trudeau, Canada's Prime Minister, is off on another one of these town hall tours of Canada. So he might be coming to a city near you. 0.70
00:01:23.340 If so, if so, watch out. It's funny because the mainstream media and a lot of commentators in Canada give Trudeau a lot of credit for doing this. You know, they say like, wow, Trudeau is so open. Look at the way he handles the public. He goes and puts himself out
00:01:39.520 in front of people in front of Canadians and takes their questions as if it's some remarkable. He does this every year. He did it last year. It's a big PR exercise. And the idea is to contrast Trudeau with the former Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, who notoriously would only take a handful of questions from the media and never did these kind of open access things.
00:02:03.520 It's interesting, though, because, you know, you can say good, good, good for you, Trudeau, for putting yourself out there and answering questions.
00:02:09.520 It probably isn't always easy, especially when there's so many constituents of Canadians that are really furious with Trudeau and liberals for various reasons.
00:02:18.520 But, you know, it's not like Trudeau is out there having an honest conversation or an honest discussion with these folks.
00:02:27.520 It's not like he's he's, you know, thinking about the questions that are being answered, asked of him and answering in any kind of tough ways.
00:02:36.520 It's literally just Trudeau getting up there, listening to a question and then repeating liberal talking points and just stating what his position is on a certain position on a certain issue without really like comprehending or thinking about what it is that he's saying.
00:02:53.520 So, you know, a couple of questions that I'm going to do a video that goes through a lot of these questions and answers that he's been given, not not not today, but I'm going to it'll probably come out next week.
00:03:04.520 We're working on it right now. But for instance, he was asked about the case of Marissa Shen, who was a 13 year old girl who was murdered in Burnaby last summer, tragically.
00:03:15.520 And the person accused of the murder is a Syrian refugee. So he was asked whether or not his Syrian program was to blame for the death of this the tragic death of this young young woman.
00:03:28.520 And he just sort of repeated his talking points about how diversity is our strength and whatnot.
00:03:36.520 And he actually said that he thinks it's unhelpful to talk about statistics of refugees and immigrants when considering our multicultural society, which is really unfortunate.
00:03:50.520 He was asked about his comments that he made down in Buenos Aires, Argentina last year that that male construction workers cause a negative social impact on women in rural areas.
00:04:03.520 And again, you know, it was a pretty sincere question. The woman was asked by a young woman who is a worker in the oil and gas sector herself.
00:04:10.520 And she just sort of said, like, can you clarify what you meant by that? And his answer was like nothing to do with the clarification whatsoever.
00:04:17.520 He just said construction workers are great. And they built our community. Next question, basically.
00:04:23.520 And the crowd booed him because that's not the answer to the question.
00:04:27.520 So, you know, if we're going to commend the prime minister for being open and putting himself out there and taking questions from Canadians,
00:04:34.520 we should probably at least ask that he addresses the questions that are being asked and doesn't just kind of ramble on with talking points.
00:04:43.520 It doesn't really feel like a conversation. It seems like much more of just a pre-election campaign tour where he's out there bragging about liberal government accomplishments.
00:04:56.520 And repeating, like I said, his pre-scripted answers and talking points, which I just, you know, it's not that interesting.
00:05:05.520 And it's not that impressive. So let's get to the topic of the day here.
00:05:10.520 I mentioned off the top that there was a Canadian press story that was covered, picked up by a couple of different media outlets this week.
00:05:21.520 Here it is in CTV. The headline here says some undocumented US migrants approved for temporary Canadian visas.
00:05:33.520 And so the story is about a woman who it starts out by talking about this woman named Alida Sanchez.
00:05:43.520 She crossed into the United States illegally across a section, crossing illegally somewhere.
00:05:55.520 It doesn't say exactly where. Anyway, she lived in the US for 17 years as an undocumented or illegal migrant.
00:06:06.520 She complained in the story about how horrible it was to live in the US because she couldn't get a proper driver's license.
00:06:12.520 Apparently she couldn't buy alcohol because she didn't have ID. 1.00
00:06:15.520 And her expectation was naively that she would be able to get status and become a citizen of the US by crossing illegally.
00:06:24.520 That's obviously untrue. And it is kind of sad that migrants have this misinformation that they believe that by coming into a country illegally that eventually they'll get a normalized status.
00:06:36.520 That's not the case for most countries. And, you know, it shows that people are really led and driven by misinformation.
00:06:44.520 So this woman lived in the United States for 17 years. I guess she heard somehow that Canada had a more open approach.
00:06:53.520 So she approached a immigration lawyer in Toronto. And this immigration lawyer worked with her.
00:07:01.520 And they actually successfully managed to get this woman, this Mexican woman, a legal temporary visa for Canada.
00:07:08.520 So she's now studying in Canada. She's doing a master's degree and she's doing it legally.
00:07:14.520 So she finally has legal status. And the story is a very sympathetic take at this woman and the journey that she's been through.
00:07:21.520 17 years illegally in the United States and now a legal resident in Canada.
00:07:27.520 Interestingly, the story kind of focuses in on the immigration lawyer herself, who is a Toronto based immigration lawyer.
00:07:35.520 And she talks about how, let me just read it because it's really interesting.
00:07:40.520 So it says, let's see her application. So as an undocumented migrant, so many years illegal in the U.S.,
00:07:50.520 her application for a temporary visa would have likely been denied in the past.
00:07:53.520 So the immigration lawyer is basically saying this would have never happened three years ago.
00:07:59.520 It says that right here. She said it would have never happened three years ago.
00:08:03.520 In the past, if someone had failed to comply with the regulations of another country,
00:08:07.520 Canada was not willing to take a chance on them, to admit them and ask them to follow our rules. 0.99
00:08:12.520 But over the last few years, the Canadian government might have quietly revised its approach to some of these applications.
00:08:20.520 Then this immigration lawyer says there's low level rumors circulating that it's possible to bring these people in for both a study permit and job offers.
00:08:28.520 So there's rumors going around in Canada among immigration lawyers and other practitioners that, hey, Canada has quietly changed its rules.
00:08:37.520 And we are now admitting illegal residents from the United States to come into Canada.
00:08:43.520 Canada, which is just sort of a remarkable revelation that Canada no longer has laws saying, you know, the U.S. is our neighbor and our closest ally.
00:08:56.520 We share a lot of information. We have the largest undefended border in the world.
00:09:01.520 And yet, if you are a person who's in the U.S. illegally, don't tell anyone, but, you know, we'll quietly let you in.
00:09:11.520 And the immigration lawyer says she's now worked with a couple of clients that she's brought in this way.
00:09:16.520 Another client was living in the U.S. undocumented and they were able to get a work permit in Canada.
00:09:23.520 And then basically just says it goes on.
00:09:29.520 And she says that basically, let me just find it, that this immigration lawyer wants more undocumented migrants to know this could be an option for them.
00:09:40.520 But they understand that the government might not want to make any changes public.
00:09:45.520 Like they don't want to come out publicly, announce it and like promote it because it would upset relations with the United States.
00:09:53.520 That's what this immigration lawyer speculates in this Canadian press piece, which was in CTV, National Post and a couple of other places.
00:10:01.520 So, you know, this is what the immigration lawyer says again.
00:10:05.520 With the political atmosphere between Canadian U.S. government, I don't think the federal government in Canada wants to be perceived as rolling out the welcome mat for people who are essentially illegal workers in the U.S.
00:10:16.520 It might be a bit of a floodgate rationale and that it could start a stampede.
00:10:20.520 No kidding. No kidding.
00:10:22.520 If I were a illegal migrant in the U.S. and I was worried about getting deported under Trump, why wouldn't you just go to Canada?
00:10:29.520 Obviously, it would start a floodgate and it would create a serious problem for Canadian U.S. relations.
00:10:34.520 Like how can Canadians expect to travel across the border with ease to come and go as so many Canadians do and have done for generations?
00:10:44.520 If all of a sudden we have these policies that are kind of like a slap in the face to the Americans and what they're doing to crack down on their own situation.
00:10:53.520 And I think it really does obviously undermine the relationship there.
00:10:58.520 And it also creates a situation where Canada is kind of like becoming a sanctuary country.
00:11:04.520 Like there's sanctuary cities in the U.S. or sanctuary states like California.
00:11:08.520 But because of those policies, there's vast numbers of crime, horrible situations with criminal activities of illegal migrants living in those places.
00:11:20.520 You know, famously there was a Kate Steinle murder that happened in San Francisco where she was just randomly shot and killed by an illegal migrant who had been deported from the U.S. eight times.
00:11:30.520 The guy was so high on drugs that he doesn't even remember killing her.
00:11:35.520 And there was just another case a couple of weeks ago, I think a week ago, where a cop was murdered by an illegal migrant.
00:11:42.520 So it happens. And, you know, when you have a sanctuary status or that idea around you that you can that you'll provide a safe haven for people who are illegal or undocumented,
00:11:52.520 you're going to attract, you know, presumably good people like the one highlighted in this story, who is, you know, a woman who is just trying to have a normal life and is now doing a master's degree.
00:12:04.520 She obviously wanted to make her status legal. She didn't like living illegally. 1.00
00:12:10.520 And so she chose and sought out Canada, even hired an immigration lawyer because she wanted to have a legal life.
00:12:16.520 I have no doubt that she'll probably be a fine contributing member of Canada.
00:12:20.520 But that's one side of the spectrum. And then the other side of the spectrum is these horrific gang members, MS-13 gang members and people who, you know,
00:12:29.520 like the individual who murdered the cop in California and the individual who murdered Kate Steinle in San Francisco, you know, you get both.
00:12:38.520 And that's the problem. And that's the problem. And so, you know, when you have a sanctuary status, you just invite all kinds of people.
00:12:46.520 You invite all kinds of people. And it isn't necessarily good to promote this kind of lawlessness.
00:12:51.520 Like if someone hadn't respected the immigration rules and the border laws of our neighboring country, why would we expect them to do the same for us?
00:13:01.520 And it reminds me of another story that I covered in some depth back in 2017, October 2017.
00:13:09.520 So, you know, it's interesting. There's a lot of talk and back and forth about building the wall.
00:13:15.520 A lot of criticism from the mainstream media in the U.S. against Trump and the Republicans for wanting to build a wall.
00:13:21.520 And one of the things that we keep hearing is that, you know, there's no examples of terrorists who are coming across the border illegally,
00:13:30.520 who are illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. That's simply not true.
00:13:34.520 I read an entire CNN article about it. The headline was like, you know, most of the terrorists in the U.S.
00:13:40.520 that have come in have come from Canada, not Mexico or something along those lines.
00:13:45.520 That's that's false. There's there's well documented.
00:13:49.520 You know, it's not a lot of people, but there there have been cases probably a dozen or so in the last few years of known terrorists coming across that southern border.
00:13:59.520 And one of the examples is an individual who actually made his way to Canada and committed, well, is alleged to have committed a ISIS inspired terrorist attack in Edmonton.
00:14:09.520 So folks, remember, it was last last October or maybe it was two Octobers ago now.
00:14:16.520 I guess it was October 2017, a individual who had come from the United States.
00:14:24.520 He was a Somali guy and he his name was Abdullah Hassan Sharif.
00:14:31.520 He entered the U.S. illegally from Tijuana. So he crossed illegally into into the U.S.
00:14:37.520 He was detained by American immigration officials.
00:14:41.520 And because he didn't have a passport, because he couldn't really explain why he was in Mexico in the first place, he was detained and set to be deported.
00:14:50.520 He ended up skipping bail. He didn't show up to his next court appearance.
00:14:54.520 He was gone and he showed up at the Canada U.S. border.
00:14:57.520 He again crossed another border illegally, came to Canada, and it was in Canada where he claimed asylum.
00:15:04.520 And he just said, I'm a refugee from Somalia. Let me stay. 1.00
00:15:08.520 The Canadian government did let him stay. He was eventually granted refugee status.
00:15:13.520 And then October 2017, he's alleged to have he was this was the case where he drove a transport rental, a rental van through a crowd of people.
00:15:24.520 He ran over five people, including a cop. He then got out of the car and started stabbing the cop before fleeing.
00:15:30.520 And he was eventually arrested and detained. And he's now on trial for that terror attack.
00:15:36.520 Allegedly, he also had an ISIS flag in his car during the attack.
00:15:40.520 And so this is an obvious example of a terror of a alleged terrorist who came.
00:15:46.520 He crossed two borders illegally. He illegally came from Mexico into the United States.
00:15:51.520 And then he illegally crossed the border from the United States into Canada while he was evading a deportation order from the United States.
00:15:58.520 So if you followed all that, it's it's pretty convoluted.
00:16:02.520 But I was looking into this back in 2017 and I wrote about it.
00:16:06.520 I wrote several reports about it for the Toronto Sun.
00:16:09.520 And one of the things I didn't understand was why he was granted refugee status in the first place.
00:16:14.520 If he was an illegal immigrant in the United States who had a deportation order, a pending deportation order, why did Canada admit him?
00:16:23.520 Why? Why didn't we just deport him the second he was detained?
00:16:26.520 Say, oh, this is the same guy who the U.S. has an outstanding deportation order on.
00:16:31.520 No, you know, you can't you can't come to Canada this way.
00:16:34.520 Send it back to Somalia. Send it back to Somalia. 1.00
00:16:37.520 Well, instead, Canada did let him stay.
00:16:41.520 So I was digging into it. I spoke to an official with public safety, Department of Public Safety, which is Canada's version of Homeland Security.
00:16:50.520 And I got a quote from that former official who basically told me this is from my original report that biometric screening, which uses eye scans, fingerprints and a live photo is designed to stop foreign criminals from moving within the five eyes security network.
00:17:07.520 So the five eyes security network is the intelligence and security partnership between Canada, the U.S., Australia, New Zealand and the U.K.
00:17:15.520 And so it's designed even if an individual like this Somali fellow who used a different name and didn't have a passport when he came to Canada, we should have still been able to identify him.
00:17:28.520 And so I reported on that. And then it was really interesting because Trudeau's parliamentary secretary to public safety, a guy named Mark Holland, responded to my report in the sun by writing an article.
00:17:42.520 And he wrote a letter of the editor to the Toronto Sun, which they published.
00:17:46.520 And he basically said he said this.
00:17:48.520 And then he said that your admissibility to another country does not affect your ability to enter Canada or make an asylum claim.
00:18:06.520 You're so just just repeat that because it's so astonishing.
00:18:11.520 Your admissibility to another country like the United States does not affect your ability to enter Canada or make an asylum claim.
00:18:19.520 So in other words, you could be a person who's not admissible to the United States.
00:18:25.520 The United States could have a pending deportation order against you like this case.
00:18:29.520 And that doesn't affect your ability to come to Canada, which is just bizarre.
00:18:34.520 What's the point of having a shared information system?
00:18:37.520 What's the point of having an ally and a neighbor that you sort of trust and work together when it comes to national security if someone who is barred from the United States is just welcome to come to Canada?
00:18:49.520 That's mind boggling. That's that's and that's that's a change in policy.
00:18:54.520 That's something that was never really announced. They never came out and said it.
00:18:58.520 But that's not the long standing policy that Canada has had.
00:19:02.520 And so the idea that this guy was basically just, you know, sure, he was illegal in the United States.
00:19:09.520 Sure, he evaded a deportation order and and skip bail, skip out on bail, essentially.
00:19:15.520 That doesn't matter. Canada just let him in.
00:19:19.520 And obviously that was just that was a very terrible idea because he's now charged and sitting on trial for terrorism.
00:19:26.520 Unfortunately, he didn't kill anyone in Edmonton, but he ran people over and he stabbed a police officer allegedly with an ISIS flag in his vehicle.
00:19:34.520 So we this is what happens when you don't have a secure border, when you don't have coherent laws and the fact that this is this is happening.
00:19:46.520 You know, it is kind of one thing to say, you know, the guy came illegally once he's in Canada.
00:19:52.520 We couldn't really deport him because we can't send him back to Syria because it's a war zone or something. 0.84
00:19:56.520 Sorry, Somalia, because it's a war zone and then you're kind of stuck with the guy, but he should at least be detained. 0.99
00:20:02.520 He shouldn't be out in the open allowed to commit a terror attack in Edmonton.
00:20:07.520 But but now we're proactively going out and giving people visas.
00:20:12.520 So, you know, it doesn't matter that you lived illegally in the United States.
00:20:16.520 It doesn't matter that you broke that country's laws and disrespected that country by entering legally and then staying and not trying to write it by,
00:20:25.520 you know, leaving and then trying to come back legally or trying to get a visa to live legally in the United States.
00:20:30.520 Instead, you're just kind of skipping to the next country.
00:20:33.520 It's not like the woman, the Mexican woman who's now studying her master's degree in Canada. 0.98
00:20:38.520 It's not like she really wanted to come to Canada.
00:20:40.520 Canada was just the only country that would let her do this, that would give her a visa despite her illegal status in the United States.
00:20:48.520 So I just don't really understand how this is defensible, why the Trudeau government has made these changes.
00:20:55.520 And they've kind of done it in a sneaky backhanded way.
00:20:57.520 Like we're just kind of like quietly now accepting illegal migrants from the U.S. in the midst of this sort of politicized storm in the U.S.
00:21:06.520 of, you know, building a wall and deporting illegal criminals and all these sort of left wing cities and states declaring themselves sanctuary.
00:21:16.520 Well, Canada is jumping in on that.
00:21:18.520 And I think it really undermines the partnership that Canada and the Americans are supposed to have when it comes to protecting our borders,
00:21:26.520 protecting sort of North American security, parameter security, it's sometimes called, and working together to combat jihadist terrorism as well.
00:21:35.520 That is a connected angle.
00:21:37.520 And any time you see a report from CNN or any other liberal news site that says there's no examples of terrorists coming across the Mexican-U.S. border,
00:21:45.520 I just gave you one.
00:21:47.520 It's a pretty well documented, you know, phenomenon that happens that occasionally, you know, who knows what a Somalian migrant was doing in Mexico in the first place,
00:21:59.520 other than, you know, someone probably told him it's the easiest way to get into the United States is just to fly down to Mexico,
00:22:05.520 that if you tried to fly directly into the U.S., they wouldn't let you, they wouldn't give you a visa and you'd get stopped.
00:22:11.520 But if you go down to Mexico, there are ways to get across.
00:22:15.520 And that's, that's the whole idea behind the wall.
00:22:18.520 And again, obviously, I'm not arguing that Canada and the U.S. should build a wall along Canada-U.S. border.
00:22:24.520 You know, when I say build a wall, I meant in terms of, you know, we used to have policies that prevented illegal people who are in the U.S. illegally from coming into Canada
00:22:36.520 and we've gotten rid of that policy, so the wall would be like a metaphor.
00:22:40.520 But, you know, it's kind of sad that as the U.S. is taking these steps to focus on national security and border security,
00:22:48.520 Canada is not only heading in the opposite direction, but we're also kind of undermining the U.S. attempts by saying,
00:22:54.520 you know, we'll take these people, we'll let them live in Canada, and then, you know, it actually hurts Canadians who want to be able to travel freely to the United States.
00:23:04.520 You know, sooner or later, if we keep doing this, our American allies are just going to say,
00:23:08.520 okay, the Canadian-U.S. border is not going to be as open and as easy to cross as it currently is,
00:23:15.520 because we just don't trust the Canadians.
00:23:18.520 They're actively importing people who we don't want in our country to go into their country. 1.00
00:23:23.520 And then once you get a Canadian passport or a Canadian permanent residency card,
00:23:27.520 it becomes a lot easier to go back and forth into the U.S.
00:23:30.520 So people can circumvent American border and immigration laws through Canada,
00:23:35.520 and we really shouldn't be part of that, enabling that kind of phenomenon. 0.98
00:23:40.520 It's pretty pathetic. Let me know what you think. 0.98
00:23:44.520 If you have any examples of anyone out there watching or listening has examples or knows of this happening,
00:23:50.520 let me know, because we have a couple of ongoing investigations into looking into, you know,
00:23:56.520 the number of people who come into Canada from the United States,
00:24:00.520 how many of them have criminal records.
00:24:02.520 We've got, you know, a couple of different stories that we're working on,
00:24:06.520 on the sort of investigative journalism front.
00:24:08.520 So if anyone has any tips or knows of this kind of stuff happening,
00:24:12.520 don't hesitate to send me a message.
00:24:14.520 And, yeah, on that note, with the True North Initiative and True North,
00:24:19.520 we have a lot of exciting changes.
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00:24:30.520 We've been putting out a lot of content.
00:24:32.520 And, you know, doing exclusives and stuff with mainstream media is just sort of constantly failing to do,
00:24:38.520 writing about stories that I think are pretty important.
00:24:41.520 And if you want more on this topic that I was talking about today,
00:24:45.520 with the phenomenon of illegal migrants from the U.S. being able to come to Canada,
00:24:49.520 I have a column in the Toronto Sun that should be out now or will be out later this evening.
00:24:56.520 So keep an eye out for that.
00:24:59.520 As always, thanks so much for watching.
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