Juno News - The True North Report： Leftist professors are SUING Lindsay Shepherd

00:00:00.000 Hello everyone, good afternoon. Welcome to the True North Report. My name is

00:00:04.920 Andrew Lawton broadcasting live across Facebook right now. I'm a fellow at the

00:00:09.560 True North Initiative and we're here on January 7th to talk about a big story in

00:00:15.480 Canada that has been going on for a little over a year and it has to do with

00:00:21.100 one of the biggest issues that we face in 2019 and that is free speech and

00:00:25.880 specifically free speech on college and university campuses. So I'm going to talk

00:00:30.880 a fair bit over the next little while about not just the Lindsay Shepard case

00:00:36.380 but really the themes of this case that make it much bigger than Lindsay Shepard

00:00:41.900 but there are so many different dimensions to this. I have to give a bit of the

00:00:46.060 backstory here and bear with me and I know a lot of people have been following

00:00:49.820 this but it's such a profoundly not unique example but a profoundly well it's a good

00:00:58.580 example quite frankly not because it's a positive case but a good example it

00:01:02.840 really instilling in everyone what people should already know about these

00:01:08.720 which is that campuses are not places for free speech and that's been one of the

00:01:14.440 biggest challenges here. So if you're just tuning in I welcome you very much I'm a

00:01:18.560 fellow at the true north initiative and one of our big issues and certainly one of

00:01:23.080 my big issues is preserving and protecting constitutional liberties across

00:01:26.880 Canada and that includes the right to free speech not just because free speech

00:01:31.680 is a good thing but because free speech is an essential hallmark of a free

00:01:37.280 society without speech without debate you lose your freedom and when you bring

00:01:42.680 that less in the macro sense of a society and more into context of just a

00:01:47.940 a campus or academia in general without free speech you have no free inquiry

00:01:54.360 without free inquiry you have no education without education these

00:01:57.940 universities cease to actually be anything other than institutions of

00:02:02.940 indoctrination and this is where the Lindsay Shepherd case really is so

00:02:08.220 exceptional so to go back to November of 2017 Lindsay Shepherd who at the time was I

00:02:14.460 I think 20 21 22 years old something like that was doing what most students were

00:02:21.000 she was going to school doing her thing she was not a right-wing fire breather by 0.94

00:02:26.520 any stretch and she decided that she wanted to do something that shouldn't

00:02:30.540 actually be an exceptional thing and that is have all sides of a discussion

00:02:35.880 represented she was a teaching assistant she was in an undergraduate class for

00:02:40.980 which she was the TA and she showed a clip from Television Ontario so that's the

00:02:45.780 Ontario equivalent of CBC and the clip as you know was of a debate about gender

00:02:52.380 pronouns the clip featured Jordan Peterson who had one particular

00:02:56.520 perspective of this that is essentially that he doesn't believe in the

00:03:01.540 fluidity of pronouns like some of the SJW leftists do and which is fine no one I

00:03:06.840 mean this is not even about what you believe in gender pronouns but she shows this clip gets

00:03:13.460 hauled before this three person panel including her own professor another professor from the 0.52

00:03:19.620 department and the school's gender violence manager because showing a video clip is

00:03:25.140 apparently an act of gender violence that requires a gender violence manager from the 0.99

00:03:29.640 diversity and equity department which is supposedly a department that has to exist and this three

00:03:36.200 person panel 45 minute meeting she has the foresight to record what happened in the

00:03:42.260 meeting which most students wouldn't think of and thank goodness Lindsay Shepherd did she 1.00

00:03:47.780 records that and the rest of course is history but where we are now is that

00:03:54.320 this story is being litigated in the courtrooms it's already been dealt with on

00:03:59.000 the campus it's already been dealt with in the court of public opinion but now

00:04:02.780 there are actually three legal cases going on in Canadian courtrooms to deal with what happened

00:04:09.540 in that November 2017 meeting and I want to this is so complicated because of how convoluted this story

00:04:18.980 is but but please do bear with me here in that meeting one of the ones who got it worse was

00:04:24.500 obviously Lindsay Shepherd she was the one being told that this was not a hate crime but basically a

00:04:30.560 hate crime they didn't use those words it's my word they were telling her that it was creating

00:04:36.440 toxicity in the classroom that it was making it a harmful learning environment for young students

00:04:42.820 she was further to that being told that even though they weren't punishing her that her educational

00:04:51.740 career would be in jeopardy if she continued doing this type of thing and what happened in that meeting was

00:04:58.820 that to drive home the point to Lindsay that she was behaving in a way that they thought wrong

00:05:04.520 they went after Jordan Peterson infamously comparing him to Adolf Hitler said no no no if you are going

00:05:13.280 to show a clip of Jordan Peterson you can't do it in a neutral way you have to criticize it so they were

00:05:18.920 actually telling her you have to be anti Jordan Peterson to have a place in this classroom discussion so she's

00:05:28.580 suing because this whole ordeal she says has made her unemployable in her chosen field which is academia

00:05:34.280 she's suing Laurier and the three people in that meeting Herbert Pimlott

00:05:38.780 Nathan Rambachana who was her professor and Adria Joel who was the you know deputy assistant gender violence coordinator for

00:05:48.500 offenses and grievances against mankind or whatever it is and she's suing them three and a half million dollars and you know a lot of people might think that she doesn't have a case and she's suing them three and a half million dollars and you know a lot of people might think that she doesn't have a case

00:05:58.280 I don't know I'm not a lawyer but I do think that she was very clearly wronged and this I'm sorry three point six million dollar case is really rooted in that that this inquisition wronged her and was negligent in that it has now damaged her ability to work in academia and if you hear some of the things that Lindsay's written and spoken about about the way that she was treated after this whole thing happened

00:06:28.260 uh people not wanting to be in her class professors being very uneasy about her no one really talking to her she was honestly shunned as an outcast after this and this was all because of the school's doing

00:06:40.980 but what's interesting here is that Laurier apologized the president of Laurier University apologized to Lindsay in a very public statement that said this shouldn't have happened we've listened to the audio

00:06:53.220 and yeah we were wrong you were right and then Nathan Rambacana Lindsay's professor apologized to her directly now this is key he said he was not forced to that he decided to that he took it upon himself

00:07:09.040 to apologize from himself and in his apology he also acknowledged that he was wrong to talk about Jordan Peterson the way he did

00:07:21.200 he said that he was wrong to compare him to Hitler I'm going to read the exact quote from Nathan Rambacana not about the whole thing but about the Jordan Peterson line in particular

00:07:32.740 I implied that Dr. Peterson is like Hitler which is untrue and was never my intention

00:07:40.460 while I disagree strongly with many of Dr. Peterson's academic positions and actions

00:07:45.360 the tired analogy does him a disservice and was the opposite of useful in our discussion

00:07:52.340 so there's an acknowledgement of wrongdoing and more importantly there is an acknowledgement

00:07:56.780 that it shouldn't have happened and that he regrets it as part of an apology letter

00:08:01.600 and it literally in the first line says I wanted to write to apologize to you

00:08:06.820 so Nathan Rambacana apologizes to Lindsay Shepard for this meeting

00:08:10.720 and now we bring it to the current time and Nathan Rambacana is actually suing Lindsay Shepard

00:08:18.140 over her recording of this meeting

00:08:20.940 but why this case is so interesting is that he's not suing over

00:08:26.660 he's not just suing her outright

00:08:29.500 he is suing her as part of not her lawsuit against him

00:08:34.060 but suing her as part of Jordan Peterson's lawsuit against him and against Laurier

00:08:38.780 and against Pim Lod and Adria Joel

00:08:42.460 and this is a fascinating development because they're not countersuing it sounds like

00:08:48.560 in Lindsay Shepard's case against Laurier

00:08:50.840 they may in the future they may be that I'm not aware of

00:08:53.460 but I haven't heard of anything

00:08:54.760 they're invoking Lindsay and trying to make her the responsible party

00:09:00.040 in Jordan Peterson's lawsuit against them

00:09:03.940 and this is the epitome of trying to pass the buck

00:09:08.820 so Jordan Peterson's filing his own lawsuit

00:09:11.460 not as much as that of Lindsay Shepard

00:09:15.200 but Jordan Peterson's lawsuit for one and a half million I believe

00:09:20.220 basically says that they've defamed him

00:09:23.220 he said that the three faculty members in the school itself

00:09:27.640 defamed him in this meeting

00:09:30.160 by comparing him to Hitler 0.93

00:09:31.920 by making him out to be a bigot, a transphobe, a racist, a this or that 0.96

00:09:36.040 they're defaming him 0.83

00:09:37.440 now their defense of this was at first

00:09:40.680 well no we didn't defame him

00:09:42.480 he hasn't suffered damages

00:09:44.240 his career is still going well

00:09:45.640 so you know everything should be fine

00:09:47.500 but then there's another side of that

00:09:50.580 which is that okay but if we did defame him

00:09:53.280 it's not our fault

00:09:54.840 it's Lindsay Shepard's fault

00:09:56.480 because she's the one that recorded it

00:09:59.040 and I wrote a column about this that you can read at www.truenorthinitiative.com

00:10:05.240 because you actually need to see it

00:10:07.960 I actually need to bring in like the big Glenn Beck chalkboard

00:10:10.460 and start drawing all the lines

00:10:11.900 because this is just so bizarre and convoluted

00:10:14.800 but Jordan Peterson's suing Laurier and the professors

00:10:19.180 Lindsay Shepard is suing Laurier and the professors

00:10:22.720 as part of the Jordan Peterson case

00:10:25.600 the professors are suing Lindsay

00:10:27.320 saying that she's responsible for the defamation of Jordan

00:10:30.700 that never happened

00:10:31.920 that Nathan Rambicana already apologized for

00:10:36.140 so I said in the column are you dizzy yet

00:10:39.780 but in all honesty they're saying that

00:10:41.620 he wasn't defamed but if he was

00:10:43.820 it wasn't their fault it was Lindsay's

00:10:45.440 and even though they're saying it didn't happen

00:10:47.800 they already apologized for what was really

00:10:50.580 the most egregious characterization in that Inquisition audio

00:10:55.180 and that was saying that Jordan Peterson

00:10:56.960 is like Adolf Hitler 0.94

00:10:58.900 and there's that old Godwin's law

00:11:02.060 that every online discussion will eventually

00:11:04.180 at some point become about Hitler and World War II

00:11:08.240 left-wing professors and most of the radical left right now

00:11:12.780 it doesn't even take more than one step to get there

00:11:15.880 it's not like oh you know Jordan Peterson is like that guy

00:11:18.900 who's like that guy who's like that guy who's like Hitler 0.65

00:11:21.140 they go right to Hitler 0.91

00:11:22.220 do not pass go do not collect $200

00:11:24.660 they go right to Hitler 0.91

00:11:26.680 that is their number one

00:11:28.500 and frankly their only toolkit

00:11:31.260 when it comes to debating these issues

00:11:33.140 anyone they disagree with in Hitler

00:11:34.980 and other lessons from Laurier University

00:11:37.560 that is essentially what gets you a PhD from Laurier these days

00:11:41.840 you don't even need to defend your dissertation

00:11:43.960 you just stay on the front page

00:11:45.360 this person's Hitler and boom 0.77

00:11:47.200 before you know it you're a professor

00:11:48.440 but this is actually quite offensive

00:11:51.660 not just to Peterson and Shepard

00:11:54.120 but that they're trying to relitigate this

00:11:57.640 after admitting they're wrong

00:12:00.100 it's offensive to everyone

00:12:03.040 it's offensive to everyone that they tried to tell

00:12:05.880 they believed in free speech

00:12:07.940 it's offensive to anyone who's a graduate of Laurier

00:12:12.620 anyone who's ever going to get a fundraising letter from Laurier

00:12:15.800 and you know quite frankly

00:12:18.240 I look at this

00:12:20.120 I've looked at it from the beginning with a level of skepticism here

00:12:24.420 because I didn't believe that Laurier was all that apologetic

00:12:27.640 and even when the letter came out a month after this blew up

00:12:31.320 apologizing to Lindsay Shepard from

00:12:33.360 Deborah McClatchy the head of Laurier

00:12:35.320 I didn't buy into it

00:12:36.800 and when the school said we're going to you know have a bunch of introspection here

00:12:40.180 and really delve into our commitment to free speech and whatever

00:12:43.940 because the commitment to free speech from Laurier

00:12:46.860 and a number of schools fall into this category

00:12:49.380 is littered with caveats

00:12:51.700 of we believe in free speech but

00:12:54.300 we believe in free expression but

00:12:56.620 we believe

00:12:57.160 well

00:12:57.620 but is exactly where they can shove their commitment to free speech

00:13:01.440 because it's non-existent when they put it with all these different caveats

00:13:05.180 and even from Rambucana

00:13:07.360 Nathan Rambucana was getting a fair bit of a thrashing on Twitter

00:13:11.780 when this whole thing happened 0.81

00:13:13.520 people saying you know you're a fascist 0.97

00:13:15.500 you're a Nazi 0.99

00:13:16.120 you're a Marxist 0.99

00:13:16.920 whatever

00:13:17.220 and look a lot of it was incredibly excessive

00:13:20.380 not appropriate

00:13:21.620 despite what he did

00:13:23.620 there was a lot of really nasty comments that came at him

00:13:27.960 and when he published that apology

00:13:30.580 I really hoped

00:13:31.760 that he had learned

00:13:33.440 that yes he overstepped

00:13:35.560 and perhaps his own worldview

00:13:37.060 had gotten in the way of what was supposed to be

00:13:39.780 when he became a professor

00:13:41.000 a commitment to education

00:13:42.760 but the fact that he and his colleague

00:13:45.480 Herbert Pimlott

00:13:46.420 are re-litigating this

00:13:47.860 suggests not only that they didn't learn anything

00:13:50.520 from the initial ordeal

00:13:52.100 but it also suggests that they don't even understand

00:13:55.320 what was at stake when this whole thing happened

00:13:58.240 that you can't just slander someone

00:14:01.400 because you disagree with their perspectives

00:14:03.800 and get away with it

00:14:06.400 because we don't know how often

00:14:08.180 the Jordan Peterson is Hitler comparison

00:14:11.020 was seeping into the classroom

00:14:12.700 we just don't

00:14:13.620 and if they were saying it

00:14:15.160 so matter-of-factly

00:14:17.000 in a meeting with a student

00:14:18.720 who dared to show a video clip of them

00:14:20.680 it suggests to me

00:14:22.060 that this is probably a pretty commonplace staple

00:14:26.680 in their worldview and in their classrooms

00:14:28.780 not necessarily about Peterson

00:14:30.420 but about conservatives in general

00:14:32.660 about the idea of free speech in general

00:14:34.740 there's no excuse in 2017

00:14:38.080 when this happened

00:14:39.260 to have not already thought about

00:14:41.700 the role that free speech plays in a university

00:14:44.280 so I don't buy into the idea

00:14:46.640 that the school had never really thought of it

00:14:48.480 before the Lindsay Shepard thing happened

00:14:50.200 if they did

00:14:50.980 that speaks volumes

00:14:52.680 that the school was never really that committed

00:14:54.920 to free speech

00:14:56.420 and to the principles of free speech

00:14:57.940 so I'm really interested

00:15:01.080 in where the legal side of this is going to go

00:15:05.800 because as far as the academic side

00:15:07.920 it was supposed to be done

00:15:09.080 Laurier apologized

00:15:10.360 said it was wrong

00:15:11.340 Nathan Rambicana apologized

00:15:12.760 said he was wrong

00:15:13.760 Lindsay Shepard's now graduated

00:15:15.880 she's suing of course

00:15:17.080 as is Jordan Peterson

00:15:18.200 but this further action

00:15:20.680 by the professors

00:15:22.620 which is something that goes so far

00:15:25.600 beyond them defending themselves

00:15:27.580 it's not them filing a statement of defense

00:15:29.620 it's them saying that

00:15:31.580 Lindsay Shepard is the perpetrator here

00:15:34.560 and that's the worst part of this

00:15:36.460 it's one thing to say

00:15:37.580 no no no

00:15:38.000 nothing legally bad happened

00:15:40.080 nothing happened for which

00:15:41.160 we should be legally liable

00:15:42.360 it's them saying that

00:15:44.520 Lindsay Shepard is the one

00:15:46.080 who started this all

00:15:47.080 even though we apologize for the meeting

00:15:50.060 because they think that

00:15:50.980 they should be able to say

00:15:51.860 whatever they want

00:15:52.600 in a closed door inquisition

00:15:54.380 without having to pay for it

00:15:56.720 literally or figuratively

00:15:58.460 the only reason that Lindsay

00:16:01.020 has become the iconic figure

00:16:03.440 in the free speech fight

00:16:04.520 that she has

00:16:05.220 is because she recorded this

00:16:07.160 because she did something

00:16:08.460 that made it

00:16:09.400 so this could not just be

00:16:11.400 she said

00:16:12.680 he said

00:16:13.240 they said

00:16:13.880 Z said

00:16:14.440 Zim said 0.97

00:16:15.020 whatever the pronouns

00:16:15.900 Laurier are

00:16:16.700 but this is the whole point here

00:16:19.020 is that she actually had the proof

00:16:20.900 and even people who are not in this

00:16:24.200 deeply immersed world of free speech fights

00:16:27.720 like I am

00:16:28.200 like I live for this stuff

00:16:29.120 I've been following this since 2010

00:16:31.120 when people didn't even know

00:16:32.220 there was a free speech fight

00:16:33.440 but she did this in a way that

00:16:36.060 got most normal people to listen

00:16:38.720 and be like

00:16:39.040 well hang on

00:16:39.520 that

00:16:39.740 this just is not right

00:16:42.200 and why she was such 0.98

00:16:44.680 and is such a compelling figure here

00:16:46.340 is because Lindsay herself

00:16:48.000 was not a free speech fighter

00:16:49.660 she was not someone

00:16:50.700 who had ever really thought of this issue

00:16:52.680 and I've interviewed her

00:16:53.720 about this in the past

00:16:54.740 she was a left winger

00:16:56.300 she was pro transgender pronouns

00:16:58.900 pro climate change

00:17:00.280 pro choice

00:17:00.960 pro all of these things

00:17:02.280 that the liberal Marxist professors

00:17:04.660 would have agreed with her on

00:17:06.160 but she came by it honestly

00:17:08.460 and they didn't

00:17:09.740 she came by her views

00:17:11.200 out of a belief that

00:17:12.180 we need to be able to talk about

00:17:13.460 these things openly

00:17:14.260 they came by their beliefs

00:17:16.080 from the perspective of

00:17:17.280 no one should be able to have

00:17:19.240 any other beliefs

00:17:20.300 and this is something that

00:17:21.920 liberal professors are doing

00:17:23.900 with increasing frequency right now

00:17:25.840 to not just advance a position

00:17:28.580 but to advance a position

00:17:30.480 by it being the last position remaining

00:17:32.780 because we're going to get rid of

00:17:34.800 all the other ones

00:17:35.520 so it's not that we want

00:17:37.120 our Marxist worldview

00:17:38.860 that involves censorship

00:17:39.880 and authoritarianism

00:17:41.600 in the classroom

00:17:42.240 to be the best

00:17:43.000 and we're going to argue why

00:17:44.160 it's we don't want there

00:17:45.420 to be any other position

00:17:46.800 and the lawsuit filing

00:17:50.540 as you if you will

00:17:51.860 the third party claim

00:17:52.980 the lawsuit within a lawsuit

00:17:54.220 I haven't seen the claim yet

00:17:55.920 and I was told

00:17:57.740 in a story that I read

00:17:59.580 the Canadian press wrote

00:18:01.200 that Lindsay Shepard's lawyer

00:18:02.720 has not yet seen it

00:18:03.720 he just knows that it's been filed

00:18:05.320 and you know

00:18:07.540 there is a huge

00:18:09.060 huge possibility here

00:18:12.040 that this case will go on

00:18:14.340 and on and on

00:18:15.180 and it proves with every step

00:18:19.000 that the people

00:18:20.420 that most needed to take

00:18:21.720 something away from this saga

00:18:23.000 have not done that

00:18:24.560 and that's Pimlott

00:18:26.860 and Rambucana

00:18:27.960 and Joel

00:18:29.020 and Laurier University itself

00:18:30.640 and the timing of this

00:18:32.040 is interesting

00:18:32.600 I'm going to have a video

00:18:33.380 about this later in the week

00:18:34.580 I think

00:18:34.960 that as of January 1st

00:18:37.700 all public universities

00:18:38.940 in Ontario

00:18:39.620 including Laurier

00:18:40.580 have to have a free speech

00:18:42.440 policy on campus

00:18:43.620 they have to have

00:18:44.480 a policy that proves

00:18:46.820 they are committed

00:18:47.620 to upholding the values

00:18:49.300 of free speech

00:18:50.040 free thought

00:18:50.720 academic freedom

00:18:52.020 and all of that

00:18:52.620 and this came about

00:18:54.280 because of Doug Ford

00:18:55.200 the new premier of Ontario

00:18:56.380 introduced the policy

00:18:57.900 that says

00:18:58.360 if schools don't do it

00:18:59.460 the province may pull

00:19:00.660 their funding

00:19:01.160 and it shouldn't have

00:19:03.400 had to come this far

00:19:04.560 this shouldn't need

00:19:06.160 to be in the courtroom

00:19:07.140 right now

00:19:07.880 because it shouldn't

00:19:09.320 be happening

00:19:10.020 in the first place

00:19:11.300 that this inquisition

00:19:12.320 took place

00:19:13.000 and put Lindsay Shepard

00:19:14.540 in the position

00:19:15.100 that she had to be in

00:19:16.160 and that's really

00:19:18.980 a big part of this

00:19:20.700 right now

00:19:21.640 that Lindsay was

00:19:24.840 in a position

00:19:25.360 where she said

00:19:25.900 look I've been wronged

00:19:26.800 I need to sue

00:19:27.420 that's her rationale

00:19:28.960 Jordan Peterson

00:19:30.200 I have

00:19:31.060 I have questions

00:19:33.280 about whether

00:19:34.520 the case is a viable one

00:19:36.000 I don't know what it is

00:19:37.160 because generally speaking

00:19:38.820 you have to prove damages

00:19:40.020 in any defamation case

00:19:41.620 I don't know

00:19:42.380 if he was damaged by this

00:19:44.300 I think that it was mean

00:19:46.220 I think it was slanderous

00:19:47.560 I think it was dishonest

00:19:48.640 what the people said

00:19:49.400 I don't know

00:19:50.240 if it's something

00:19:50.700 that can be litigated

00:19:52.020 but had they just defended

00:19:54.140 by saying

00:19:54.740 look this is a nonsense case

00:19:56.740 we didn't defame

00:19:57.800 Jordan Peterson

00:19:58.460 we made comments

00:19:59.440 that were in the context

00:20:00.980 of academic inquiry

00:20:02.000 we you know

00:20:03.120 probably should have

00:20:03.880 used different words

00:20:04.720 but you know

00:20:06.180 really he didn't suffer

00:20:07.320 from this

00:20:07.740 I would have a lot more

00:20:09.260 respect for their defense

00:20:10.680 than them trying to say

00:20:13.140 okay nothing happened

00:20:14.560 that was bad

00:20:15.380 he wasn't defamed

00:20:17.460 he didn't suffer

00:20:18.120 but you know

00:20:19.040 on second thought

00:20:20.140 look at that Lindsay Shepard 1.00

00:20:21.600 girl over there 1.00

00:20:22.180 we think she bears

00:20:23.480 the responsibility

00:20:24.260 because

00:20:24.980 she published

00:20:27.160 these words

00:20:28.120 well yeah

00:20:29.260 but they're your words

00:20:30.540 they're your words

00:20:31.800 you said these things

00:20:32.900 she was a whistleblower 1.00

00:20:34.740 she was a whistleblower 1.00

00:20:36.060 I mean that's like saying

00:20:36.800 if I quoted someone

00:20:38.020 like if I

00:20:38.800 if I go over to

00:20:39.720 you know

00:20:40.260 John Smith over on

00:20:41.700 on Elm Street

00:20:42.500 says you know

00:20:43.960 Justin Trudeau

00:20:44.820 eats kittens

00:20:45.860 and I say out loud

00:20:47.280 John Smith says

00:20:48.760 Justin Trudeau

00:20:49.580 eats kittens

00:20:50.140 I don't agree with

00:20:51.380 John Smith

00:20:51.860 but I want everyone to know

00:20:52.840 this is what

00:20:53.240 John Smith is saying

00:20:54.200 Justin Trudeau

00:20:55.520 cannot come to me

00:20:56.860 and say well

00:20:57.300 you said I eat kittens

00:20:58.760 no I didn't

00:20:59.460 I'm reflecting

00:21:01.420 I'm actually calling out

00:21:02.760 someone else

00:21:03.660 who thinks that

00:21:04.780 so Lindsay Shepard

00:21:05.880 has done the world

00:21:06.640 a service here

00:21:07.900 by exposing

00:21:09.200 this worldview

00:21:10.280 that exists in campus

00:21:11.820 and you know

00:21:13.320 one of the words

00:21:14.240 that

00:21:14.580 or phrases rather

00:21:15.980 that came out of this

00:21:17.000 claim

00:21:17.680 that was in the media report

00:21:19.140 of it in the Canadian press

00:21:20.220 is that Shepard

00:21:22.100 was exercising

00:21:23.440 power and control

00:21:24.940 over the situation

00:21:26.620 because she had

00:21:27.540 the recording

00:21:28.100 so she was the one

00:21:29.460 that was the powerful

00:21:30.780 controlling figure here

00:21:32.080 and I find that

00:21:33.120 so laughable

00:21:33.820 this little

00:21:34.340 you know

00:21:34.720 mild-mannered

00:21:35.520 21-22 year old

00:21:37.280 student

00:21:38.080 teaching assistant

00:21:39.280 in a room

00:21:40.340 with three

00:21:41.460 academic officials

00:21:43.520 being told

00:21:44.840 that she was

00:21:46.640 no different

00:21:47.200 than anyone

00:21:47.780 who quoted Hitler

00:21:48.520 and they're saying

00:21:49.840 she had power 0.79

00:21:51.120 and control

00:21:51.700 over them

00:21:53.440 now she did have control

00:21:54.800 over her own situation

00:21:56.120 but fighting back

00:21:58.360 is never an act

00:21:59.680 of aggression

00:22:00.260 fighting back

00:22:01.560 is how you meet

00:22:02.600 aggression

00:22:03.500 and again

00:22:04.620 I go back

00:22:05.200 to what is the most

00:22:05.960 fundamental point here

00:22:07.080 that they were the ones

00:22:08.980 who aggressed

00:22:09.740 against her

00:22:10.320 they were the ones

00:22:11.540 who started this

00:22:12.440 she finished it

00:22:13.440 they brought her

00:22:14.780 into this

00:22:15.220 she defended herself

00:22:16.500 and for them

00:22:18.060 to now say

00:22:18.600 that this is all

00:22:19.340 her fault 0.88

00:22:20.260 is despicable

00:22:22.340 it is absolutely

00:22:24.200 despicable

00:22:24.980 and I don't know

00:22:26.340 what's going to happen

00:22:27.000 with the case

00:22:27.600 I really don't

00:22:29.040 I would like

00:22:30.220 to believe

00:22:30.980 I would like

00:22:32.320 to believe

00:22:32.900 that a judge

00:22:34.380 will just throw it out

00:22:35.620 and say

00:22:35.940 look come on

00:22:36.580 this is just

00:22:37.480 completely nonsensical

00:22:38.740 I don't know

00:22:40.100 if a lawsuit

00:22:41.180 within a lawsuit

00:22:41.960 which is what this is

00:22:42.940 a third party claim

00:22:43.960 can be thrown out

00:22:45.280 as a slap

00:22:46.060 which is a strategic lawsuit

00:22:47.600 against public participation

00:22:48.740 I don't know

00:22:49.960 if that's an option

00:22:50.740 available

00:22:51.280 to Lindsay Shepard

00:22:53.260 and her lawyer

00:22:54.060 Howard Levitt

00:22:54.760 I don't know

00:22:56.020 what's going to happen

00:22:56.640 with Peterson's lawsuit

00:22:58.700 and with Lindsay's lawsuit

00:23:00.480 I mean

00:23:00.820 this is all stuff

00:23:01.860 that stands to be seen

00:23:03.600 I'm focusing on

00:23:04.900 the bigger narrative here

00:23:06.540 that seems to have

00:23:07.960 driven to this

00:23:08.720 happening in the first place

00:23:10.000 and that is that

00:23:11.060 the professors

00:23:12.540 who you'd most think

00:23:13.980 would be positioned

00:23:14.780 right now

00:23:15.280 to take a step back

00:23:16.200 and say

00:23:16.640 yes

00:23:17.700 we overstepped

00:23:18.660 our bounds

00:23:19.360 are doubling down

00:23:21.200 tripling down

00:23:22.100 quadrupling down

00:23:23.260 and still not accepting

00:23:25.040 any responsibility

00:23:26.160 for what they had

00:23:27.840 the gall

00:23:28.500 and the audacity

00:23:29.460 to do

00:23:30.080 just 14 months ago

00:23:32.260 November of 2017

00:23:34.500 now a lot's changed

00:23:36.140 a lot has changed

00:23:37.680 in the free speech realm

00:23:38.700 in the last couple years

00:23:39.640 remember

00:23:40.320 it's only been

00:23:40.920 in the last couple years

00:23:41.840 that Jordan Peterson

00:23:42.840 has become a household name

00:23:44.180 that Lindsay Shepard

00:23:45.400 has become a household name

00:23:46.580 that universities

00:23:48.180 now have

00:23:49.300 a mechanism

00:23:51.400 by which they're expected

00:23:53.120 to uphold free speech

00:23:54.640 this is all happening

00:23:55.660 very recently

00:23:56.440 but the undercurrent

00:23:58.120 that's been leading

00:23:58.920 to this

00:23:59.420 has been going on

00:24:00.400 since

00:24:00.860 the 1980s

00:24:02.540 you know

00:24:03.500 I remember writing

00:24:04.460 a 30th anniversary

00:24:06.180 column

00:24:07.060 about

00:24:07.840 Alan Bloom's book

00:24:09.360 The Closing of the American Mind

00:24:10.880 if you haven't read the book

00:24:12.820 came out

00:24:13.400 I think 32 years ago now

00:24:15.080 or 31 years ago

00:24:16.060 simply incredible read

00:24:17.800 from a professor

00:24:19.100 before political correctness

00:24:21.100 was the word

00:24:21.980 that we know

00:24:22.700 that we all know

00:24:23.520 and that we all revile

00:24:25.400 and he was writing

00:24:26.400 about this undercurrent

00:24:27.620 of entitlement

00:24:29.400 that was taking place

00:24:30.740 on campuses

00:24:31.380 students that were

00:24:32.300 starting to feel like

00:24:33.660 they had a little bit

00:24:34.500 too much

00:24:35.140 or didn't have enough power

00:24:37.260 as to what

00:24:37.960 is taught in the classroom

00:24:39.440 and he was saying

00:24:41.340 that you know

00:24:41.840 professors

00:24:42.420 you know

00:24:43.380 need to be on guard

00:24:44.400 about this

00:24:45.060 but it's amazing

00:24:46.400 how this has flipped now

00:24:47.740 where the concern

00:24:49.060 then was that

00:24:49.720 ah these Marxist students

00:24:50.940 are you know

00:24:51.740 trying to throw

00:24:52.340 the curriculum out

00:24:53.200 well now

00:24:53.920 those Marxist students

00:24:54.980 of 1987

00:24:56.300 are the professors

00:24:59.040 of 2019

00:25:00.200 so the people

00:25:01.880 that Alan Bloom

00:25:02.620 warned us about

00:25:03.680 were the

00:25:05.280 Nathan Rambucanas

00:25:07.140 and Herbert Pimlotz

00:25:08.660 when they were students

00:25:10.000 who are now professors

00:25:11.040 because everyone

00:25:12.880 who couldn't deal

00:25:13.620 with that in the 80s

00:25:14.480 they left

00:25:14.860 they left academia

00:25:15.760 they went into other sectors

00:25:17.480 and I don't really blame them

00:25:19.220 and the ones who remained

00:25:21.100 were the ones

00:25:21.660 that were drinking

00:25:22.300 this Kool-Aid

00:25:23.060 the ones that are now

00:25:23.940 suing

00:25:24.500 a young woman

00:25:25.700 who just graduated

00:25:26.680 with a master's

00:25:27.640 who's trying to get

00:25:28.320 a foothold

00:25:28.920 in a career

00:25:29.900 and finds that she can't

00:25:31.560 because of what happened

00:25:33.360 to her at Laurier

00:25:34.460 because of the way

00:25:35.220 that Laurier

00:25:35.840 treated her

00:25:36.820 and where people need to

00:25:39.840 take some perspective here

00:25:42.340 is that even though

00:25:43.960 she was the one

00:25:44.800 that made the decision

00:25:45.660 to go public with this

00:25:46.980 she was going public

00:25:48.420 because it was her only way

00:25:49.680 to remedy the situation

00:25:51.060 so she created

00:25:52.980 the discussion about it

00:25:54.340 but she didn't create 0.99

00:25:55.380 the situation itself

00:25:57.100 and that's a distinction

00:25:58.360 that's a significant one

00:25:59.680 and it's one that's lost

00:26:01.620 on the professors

00:26:02.920 it's one that's lost

00:26:04.000 on Laurier

00:26:05.240 and it's one that's lost

00:26:06.180 and a lot of the people

00:26:06.900 that are calling

00:26:07.620 Lindsay Shepard

00:26:08.980 all sorts of names

00:26:09.860 and have been relentlessly

00:26:11.040 for the last year

00:26:12.160 and a bit

00:26:12.560 because they clearly

00:26:13.980 don't get

00:26:14.840 what the stakes are

00:26:16.100 of this

00:26:16.680 and you know

00:26:18.940 I've got my own issues

00:26:20.140 with judicial activism

00:26:21.400 so many so

00:26:23.160 that a lot of

00:26:24.240 what's going to happen

00:26:25.480 with this case

00:26:26.080 will not depend

00:26:26.760 on what the law says

00:26:27.860 but will depend

00:26:28.800 on which judge it is

00:26:30.100 that takes it over

00:26:31.120 and that's

00:26:31.780 that's a big issue

00:26:33.140 right there

00:26:33.660 that I mean

00:26:34.320 we don't even have time

00:26:35.160 to get into in this particular

00:26:36.700 True North report

00:26:38.380 but what we can do

00:26:40.100 is talk about the climate

00:26:42.020 because that's what we really need

00:26:43.520 to fix moving forward

00:26:44.580 the climate that led

00:26:46.080 to professors thinking

00:26:47.160 this was a good idea

00:26:48.580 because all of the legal

00:26:50.020 messiness

00:26:50.600 that's come from this

00:26:51.720 would have been avoided

00:26:53.240 if the situation itself

00:26:54.520 didn't happen

00:26:55.200 so beyond the legal stuff

00:26:57.640 we have to make sure

00:26:58.460 that the next

00:26:58.980 Lindsay Shepard

00:26:59.880 doesn't exist

00:27:01.000 and that the next

00:27:01.840 Laurier University

00:27:03.000 witch trial

00:27:04.080 doesn't exist

00:27:05.380 and I'm hopeful

00:27:07.420 that schools

00:27:08.420 having to have

00:27:09.200 these free speech policies

00:27:10.380 will at least

00:27:11.860 get the issue

00:27:13.100 addressed

00:27:14.820 but we also

00:27:16.340 haven't seen

00:27:17.240 the revolting

00:27:18.500 against this

00:27:19.140 I know student unions

00:27:20.120 have tried to say

00:27:20.960 that they don't think

00:27:22.420 this is a fair thing

00:27:23.480 there are going to be

00:27:24.000 court challenges

00:27:24.720 over this

00:27:25.360 whether student unions

00:27:26.760 are exempt from policies

00:27:28.060 or not

00:27:28.480 we still don't know

00:27:29.300 so there are a lot of

00:27:30.280 question marks about this

00:27:31.460 and really how seriously

00:27:32.940 will the government

00:27:34.400 enforce it

00:27:35.080 are they actually

00:27:35.640 going to cut funding

00:27:36.560 or are they just going to go

00:27:37.540 now now now

00:27:38.540 like if I was Doug Ford

00:27:39.920 I'd be like really going in

00:27:41.940 with a giant

00:27:43.340 bandsaw

00:27:45.160 and looking at their budgets

00:27:46.460 and saying

00:27:46.960 no free speech

00:27:47.800 alright we're cutting

00:27:48.500 this whole thing

00:27:49.140 I don't know

00:27:50.940 if he's going to do that

00:27:51.720 I don't know

00:27:52.200 if he's just going to

00:27:52.780 cut off public universities

00:27:53.940 because they don't

00:27:55.380 uphold free speech

00:27:56.420 but I can tell you

00:27:57.460 that if they start

00:27:58.540 to have the necessary

00:28:00.020 fear put into them

00:28:01.220 that their funding

00:28:02.280 is cut

00:28:02.780 it's amazing

00:28:03.460 how quickly

00:28:04.120 they'll change their tune

00:28:05.260 on whether they support

00:28:06.780 free speech

00:28:07.460 and that's the whole thing

00:28:09.660 is that these ideologues 0.88

00:28:11.060 are surprisingly weak-willed

00:28:13.740 because when they actually

00:28:15.440 have skin in the game

00:28:16.600 they aren't prepared

00:28:17.700 to stand by their principles

00:28:18.800 and we're seeing this

00:28:19.640 with Ram Buchanan

00:28:20.460 and Pimlott

00:28:21.020 when the you-know-what

00:28:22.180 hits the fan

00:28:22.920 they're not prepared

00:28:24.360 to stand their ground

00:28:25.240 they're passing the buck

00:28:26.300 saying it was someone

00:28:27.540 else's fault entirely

00:28:29.280 and they almost

00:28:31.680 got away with it

00:28:32.440 now we do have to

00:28:34.620 wrap things up

00:28:35.260 in just a moment here

00:28:36.260 but I wanted to

00:28:36.880 on a more personal note

00:28:37.960 if you're tuning in

00:28:38.660 stay with me

00:28:39.680 and if you're watching

00:28:40.240 this later

00:28:40.760 well you're watching it

00:28:41.860 anyway so

00:28:42.380 hi

00:28:42.700 talk about

00:28:44.180 how we're going

00:28:45.440 to fight this

00:28:46.060 because in 2019

00:28:46.980 as I mentioned

00:28:47.720 we've got a policy change

00:28:48.960 in Ontario

00:28:49.480 that I think

00:28:50.600 will really put

00:28:52.160 things on

00:28:53.340 a better track

00:28:54.440 but it's just

00:28:55.500 one province

00:28:56.280 and more importantly

00:28:57.980 we don't yet know

00:28:58.760 the impact

00:28:59.360 so what we're really

00:29:00.660 trying to do here

00:29:02.000 is a two-pronged

00:29:04.280 approach

00:29:04.560 we have to deal

00:29:05.300 with the cultural

00:29:05.940 aspect of this

00:29:06.900 we also have to deal

00:29:08.140 with the legal

00:29:08.640 aspect of it

00:29:09.460 and I'm pledging

00:29:11.000 in 2019

00:29:11.580 to do both

00:29:12.540 and this is something

00:29:13.280 that really

00:29:14.480 a tiny number

00:29:16.380 of groups

00:29:17.140 and individuals

00:29:17.780 are doing

00:29:18.680 so tiny

00:29:19.300 that I can't even

00:29:19.900 think of any

00:29:20.420 right now

00:29:20.940 that are making

00:29:21.840 the commitment

00:29:22.340 that I am right now

00:29:23.280 but I can't do it

00:29:24.020 without you

00:29:24.500 and what I'd like

00:29:25.900 you to do

00:29:26.400 please

00:29:26.860 is head on over

00:29:27.740 to truenorthinitiative.com

00:29:29.420 and consider

00:29:30.660 making a contribution

00:29:32.060 or if you really

00:29:33.200 want to be

00:29:33.800 in on the ground

00:29:35.040 level of this

00:29:35.840 join one of my clubs

00:29:37.440 now you can do this

00:29:38.380 for really $10 a month

00:29:40.740 you can do it

00:29:41.220 for more if you'd like

00:29:42.120 we'd love for you

00:29:42.680 to do it

00:29:43.140 for as much

00:29:43.940 as you're able to

00:29:44.740 but join my club

00:29:46.080 we've got some perks

00:29:46.980 on there

00:29:47.400 that we'll certainly

00:29:48.420 tell you about

00:29:49.180 on the website

00:29:49.920 but more importantly

00:29:51.360 it's about

00:29:52.500 getting in

00:29:53.780 to this fight

00:29:55.080 when it matters

00:29:55.960 we can't do this alone

00:29:57.860 we don't get

00:29:58.500 part of the $600 million

00:29:59.960 that Justin Trudeau

00:30:01.140 is giving his journalism

00:30:02.000 friends

00:30:02.500 we don't have

00:30:03.680 that infrastructure

00:30:04.620 we don't have

00:30:05.340 the war chest

00:30:06.080 that labor unions

00:30:07.460 do when it comes

00:30:08.100 to elections

00:30:08.540 we only get

00:30:09.480 to do this stuff

00:30:10.380 when you support us

00:30:12.020 so please do

00:30:13.460 if you want to

00:30:14.320 get more involved

00:30:15.040 and see this action

00:30:16.660 come to fruition

00:30:17.500 in 2019

00:30:18.220 please do join my club

00:30:19.880 I'll post a link

00:30:20.520 in the Facebook chat

00:30:21.460 over there

00:30:22.280 in just a moment

00:30:23.380 but thank you so much

00:30:24.360 for tuning in

00:30:25.180 we'll talk to you next week

00:30:26.380 and stay tuned

00:30:27.120 for the rest of the week

00:30:28.300 when we'll have

00:30:28.700 lots more videos

00:30:29.360 on this

00:30:29.800 and other subjects

00:30:30.980 at the True North Initiative

00:30:32.120 thank you

00:30:32.900 God bless

00:30:33.500 and good day Canada

00:30:34.380 you

00:30:44.200 you

00:30:44.780 you

00:30:46.280 you

00:30:47.280 you

00:30:51.720 you

Juno News - January 08, 2019

The True North Report： Leftist professors are SUING Lindsay Shepherd

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