00:05:35.740And all of the animals are going to do what they're going to do in the circus without him telling them.
00:05:40.160And why this is so unconvincing is because when you go to the World Economic Forum event, as I did, I've done twice, one with accreditation, you get all of these press releases that come out.
00:05:52.440There's all of these initiatives that are being announced.
00:05:56.780And you can't buy into the fact that this is a neutral organization without an agenda that also manages to be launching these commissions.
00:06:06.400I mean, for example, Mary Ng, and we reported about this on TNC.news over at True North.
00:06:12.700Mary Ng was having an informal ministerial meeting at the World Economic Forum and somehow comes out at this event that was not a multilateral summit by any stretch.
00:06:24.160It wasn't a climate conference, but she comes out as part of a coalition of trade ministers on climate, which was launched in Davos, presided over by the World Economic Forum.
00:06:34.780And this strikes me as the kind of thing that only happens when there's an organization that has a very specific agenda that it's putting forward.
00:06:42.860And you can look at the guest list and see, well, there are lots of CEOs of oil companies there, tech resources in Canada.
00:06:48.760you may recall the Tech Frontier Pipeline project that used to be all the rage before they had to
00:06:54.200pull the plug, the tech executives were there. And that strikes me as a bit odd, right? It should
00:07:00.120strike you as a bit odd, but they do this because they have to have this cursory participation from
00:07:05.340the oil and gas sector so that when people like me get up there and say, well, you have an aggressively
00:07:10.060anti-oil agenda, they can say, well, no, we had tech resources there. Yeah, we had the president
00:07:17.040of SEPSA, the Spanish company. I talked about this one last week on the show. This is the
00:07:22.540Spanish oil and gas company whose CEO got up there and talked about how we need to accelerate the
00:07:28.420transition away from oil and gas and use green technologies. Now, oddly, after that discussion,
00:07:35.480I woke up one morning. I think it was like Saturday morning or something. I was back in Canada.
00:07:40.120I woke up and saw that that company had followed me on Twitter. This company that I've never
00:07:44.820mentioned on Twitter, that I've never followed, that I've never had any dealing with whatsoever
00:07:48.640after I do a discussion about them on my show, somehow are following me on Twitter. So we'll
00:07:54.060call that the World Economic Forum effect for you. But the reason this is so relevant is because
00:08:00.060there was an aggressively anti-oil and gas agenda taking place in Davos. And even the oil companies
00:08:06.720and mining companies who had representatives there were companies that are making a lot of money by
00:08:12.560participating in this transition themselves, they're not representative of groups in Canada,
00:08:17.720for example, that are still very reliant on clean and efficient and environmentally sound
00:08:23.140extraction of natural resources. And the one thing I do say, though, and I think it's important for
00:08:30.780people to realize, is that not every single participant of the WEF meeting is part of this
00:08:38.020monolithic group. I think there's this tendency to assume that everyone there thinks the same way,
00:08:44.380when in actual fact, there are people that represent a range of ideas. Certainly, I think
00:08:49.840a certain type of people tend to be the ones invited, and they all tend to be consumed by
00:08:55.840what's happening there and talk about things the same way. But there were some individual people
00:09:01.460that did a very good job at pushing back against this prevailing narrative, one of whom
00:09:06.620we mentioned on the show previously and shared a bit of my interview with that was Niall Ferguson
00:09:11.240the eminent historian and author another was the foreign minister of Hungary who talked about all
00:09:17.060of the green energy woes another was Senator Joe Manchin who again is a Democrat from West Virginia
00:09:23.420but on energy issues he's a lot more aligned with I think where ordinary people are and where
00:09:28.640Republicans and conservatives are and he actually toured the oil sands in Alberta a few months back
00:09:34.520when Jason Kenney was the premier. So it was a bit of a refreshing turn to have this chat with
00:09:40.320Joe Manchin on the sidelines of the WEF annual meeting. Do you think it's fair? So first off,
00:09:49.700what do you think of the Biden administration's decision to be so averse to importing Canadian
00:09:55.140oil? It makes no sense to me whatsoever. You know, Canada has been our best trading partner.
00:10:00.940It's been our best ally, and it's our friend and our neighbor.
00:10:03.900And next of all, 62% of our heavy crude comes from Alberta.
00:10:07.580So I'm totally committed to it, and they're totally wrong in not accepting it
00:10:11.680and willing to go to different places and lift the sanctions off of Iran,
00:10:15.240who wants the most prolific terrorist supporters and give them money,
00:10:18.900or going towards areas that basically do not have the climate standards that Alberta has
00:10:24.020and the way they've done it and done it so well and made so many different advancements.
00:10:27.740So I'm totally supportive of Alberta oil coming more and more to the U.S.,
00:10:32.080and it was a shame that we didn't ask them to support more.
00:10:34.840Right now with the Russia-Ukraine war, we're obviously seeing a lot of discussion about energy independence and energy security.
00:10:40.840Do you think this could cause some of those more resistance to Western oil in the United States to reevaluate?
00:10:47.260Well, the bottom line is that the IRA bill, which everybody's talking about here,
00:10:50.960it's a tremendous opportunity for the United States to be totally energy independent.
00:10:54.040We can't do that unless we're basically developing an all-in energy policy using all of the resources that we have,
00:11:00.020which is oil, gas, coal, and developing all the new technology for the future.
00:11:04.460And that's what we're working on. That's what that bill is about.
00:11:06.380It's about energy security and basically producing cleaner than any other hydrocarbons in the world.
00:11:11.980So with that, basically, we're going to have to have Alberta oil.
00:11:15.680There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
00:12:41.700Did she have bilateral meetings, multilateral meetings?
00:12:44.400Is she also joining Canada up in some task force0.78
00:12:47.500like Mary Ng, who knows? And I think this is the important distinction here is that going to Davos
00:12:54.160itself is not inherently wrong. If you're going for the right reasons, you're saying the right
00:12:59.700things on stage publicly, and they align with what you're saying privately. And I would argue
00:13:05.000if there's transparency, if you're prepared to own up to what it is you're doing there and what it is
00:13:10.080you're hoping to achieve. Like Maxime Bernier has been to Davos, Stephen Harper has been to Davos,
00:13:15.180And both of those people, I think, would articulate, and Maxime has done a video on this or an interview on this in the past, what it is they were doing there and why they were there.
00:13:24.900But the organization has changed a fair bit in the last 10 years, certainly in the last five years.
00:13:31.180And from my perspective, I'd say the COVID era was the real point at which it became too important to look away.
00:13:38.480because that was when they started talking about these really grandiose plans
00:13:42.900in a way that started permeating through a lot of places
00:13:46.120that hadn't really paid all that much attention to it.
00:13:48.980And we started to see things like the Great Reset, Build Back Better,
00:13:52.920and what are some of the other buzzwords that they use?
00:17:36.740I don't think banks should be weaponized any more than any other industry.
00:17:40.540I think we have jobs to do, and we do it for Canadians,
00:17:43.420and I think generally, in fact more than generally, we do it pretty well.
00:17:46.620Did you support the financial measures?
00:17:51.660that last one you got when they're walking away you got to always sneak in a last one there and
00:17:57.700again i thought that was also a legitimate question okay if you're just talking about
00:18:01.680supporting the government on the directions that they took did you support those measures
00:18:06.480and he was silent which again i feel is pretty much an answer now interestingly enough he was
00:18:12.820on my flight on the way back to toronto as was who else was on my flight christia freeland was
00:18:18.660on my flight she also did not want to chat even when I wasn't recording when I just said hello0.96
00:18:23.980and I said good to see you again minister and she quickly looked the other way and bolted into the
00:18:28.600business class cabin not like me closer to the back of the plane and what else happened here
00:18:34.060who Daryl White was on the former premier of Newfoundland was on my flight Brian Tobin and the
00:18:39.680former front man of Great Big Sea Alan Doyle was also on my flight now Alan I don't know if Alan
00:18:46.180Doyle was at Davos. I don't know how being a Newfoundland singer gets you an invitation to
00:18:51.980Davos or if he was just passing through Zurich, but he was up there palling and around palling
00:18:56.940around with former Premier Tobin and also with Daryl White of BMO, oddly. I saw the two of them
00:19:02.020like hugging at Pearson Airport after as they went their separate ways. So Davos makes for
00:19:07.560strange bedfellows, as they say. But there were some interesting people, again, that are not used
00:19:14.120to taking questions. One of them, and I hope you'll indulge me here because this is more of a
00:19:19.000British story, but it's one that is tremendously relevant to Canada when we talk about the internet
00:19:24.680regulations that are coming in. And just by way of context here, Ofcom is Britain's CRTC. So it's
00:19:32.020the regulator of television and radio stations. Ofcom has more of a content oversight role than
00:19:39.380the CRTC does. Ofcom says what you can and can't say at a certain time of day. Ofcom says what
00:19:45.200you're allowed to say as far as profanity is concerned. And if you look at the list of what
00:19:49.840words they govern, it's actually quite hilarious. And Ofcom also has been investigating various
00:19:56.920networks, notably GB News and the former program on there, The Mark Stein Show, for having discussions
00:20:03.540about vaccine harms about vaccine injuries and there have been a slate of investigations against
00:20:09.880this some of which Ofcom has dismissed others Ofcom has decided to advance which could bring
00:20:15.100in basically sanctions leading up to the termination of a station's broadcast license now
00:20:21.360all the while Ofcom likes to say well we support free speech we support vigorous debate we're not
00:20:27.000a censor yet somehow the chief broadcasting oversight woman the chief censor of the United
00:20:32.480United Kingdom Dame Melanie Dawes was at Davos. Now again I've asked Ofcom because I've done some
00:20:39.440work with GB News and with Mark Stein and I've asked Ofcom in the past to comment on this very
00:20:44.920thing and they've not responded but it's a lot harder to hide on the streets of Davos. Here's Dame
00:20:51.000Melanie Dawes. I was just wondering if I could ask you about whether you think Ofcom is being
00:20:58.840fair in enforcing its COVID misinformation policy against very legitimate discourse about COVID?
00:21:04.880Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean, to be honest.
00:21:07.400Well, people that have spoken about vaccine injuries have received Ofcom complaints and
00:21:11.500investigations and broadcast licenses are in jeopardy of people that talk about very real
00:21:15.680issues. I just don't think that we've, I guess I'm not sure, it's very hard to answer that
00:21:22.080question without a specific instance. GB News is facing investigations.
00:21:25.620Well, there are sometimes cases where we open up an investigation, but, you know, let's see how that goes.
00:21:31.000What we're absolutely clear about is that freedom of expression is incredibly important in the way that we deal with the broadcasting code.
00:21:37.940So people are absolutely entitled to express views.
00:21:40.740So we always abide by those principles whenever we're looking into anything.
00:21:44.660So do you believe that discussing vaccine injury should be allowed?
00:21:47.800Certainly, absolutely. Free and frank and open conversations are always good on any topic.
00:21:52.400now mark stein put that clip up on his website i think it was yesterday or two days ago i would
00:21:59.920argue that uh they could probably just drop their investigations here and now the chief executive
00:22:04.880of ofcom says no we support free speech so that's not uh there's no point and i don't know the cases
00:22:10.160you're talking about and you put those to her and she says well yes this is an example of the free
00:22:15.520speech and vigorous debate that we allow so uh feel free to enter that into evidence if you're
00:26:40.540He's got Larry Fink of BlackRock on the board.
00:26:42.580He's got the head of Nestle, the head of Carlyle.
00:26:45.500He's got companies on his board with trillions of dollars in holdings and assets under management.
00:26:52.780So when he says he's going to change world policy about energy or change world policy about food,
00:27:00.740get off of oil and gas, get off of meat, get onto bugs, that China is the future and America is the
00:27:07.000sunset. He's not just a madman. He's a madman with enormous influence. Andrew, I think that
00:27:15.600Klaus Schwab, because he's been in that position for decades, probably has more influence than any
00:27:22.980other person in the world. The American president has more power. The head of the United Nations
00:27:28.260probably knows more heads of state but he'll be replaced in a few years and the president will die
00:27:33.100or be unelected and both of those people come here they come to klaus schwab's table and and he knows
00:27:40.140every oligarch he knows every world leader he knows the money people and he has spent 40 years
00:27:46.860building a legion of what he calls young leaders jacinda ardern look at her the pm of new zealand
00:27:52.840emmanuel macron look at him the president of france justin trudeau and christia freeland
00:27:57.440so it's such an extraordinarily powerful group of people who seek to rule the world that's what
00:28:04.700they say they want to do surely they deserve some scrutiny and accountability but if you do that
00:28:10.380the regime media kicks into into place and said you're a conspiracy theorist that needs a fact
00:28:16.580check well we're here to fact check it just briefly on the media side one thing that's noteworthy
00:28:21.180when you look around here is that there are a lot of media companies here from all around the world
00:28:25.540But it's the companies that are here pouring a lot of money, not into sending teams of journalists here to report on them, but to basically advertise themselves to it.
00:28:34.560You've got the Wall Street Journal handing out copies of its newspaper every few metres on the sidewalk.
00:28:38.460You've got this big Mountain View lookout for the Wall Street Journal.
00:28:41.460You've got New York Times journalists, CNBC.
00:28:43.900They're all here to do business with these elites, not to report on them.
00:28:48.160Here's an example. I'm looking at the CNBC building there.
00:28:51.780CNBC is owned by Comcast, one of the largest media companies in the world,
00:29:44.240Now, funnily enough, as the clip was playing,
00:29:47.480I just saw briefly on my Twitter feed in front of me a clip that Ezra posted of him being weirdly confronted by, I don't know if you know him, there's this YouTuber feel-good Facebook guy named Naz Daly who has, I don't know, a bajillion followers on Facebook or YouTube and he makes a bunch of money and he has this little headquarters in, I believe it's in Dubai, somewhere in the United Arab Emirates.
00:30:11.940And he does these videos where he, I think they're like a minute long and he showcases
00:30:17.080something and it was just that like feel good, clickbaity Facebook content.
00:30:21.800Anyway, he's like a total WEF fan boy.