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- July 31, 2024
“The woman’s a communist” - Harris campaign ramps up (Ft. James Lindsay)
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We're not going back.
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Kamala Harris' campaign is in full swing, but there's serious reasons to believe that the
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momentum is largely due to corporate media coverage as well as online memes. Not only
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is the legacy media in overdrive trying to boost Kamala's profile, but AI services are
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now trying to rewrite history and tell lies about Kamala's past. Finally, the Harris campaign
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shocked the public this week when it revealed that it would be segregating volunteers based
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on race, leaving many of us to wonder, is this modern-day Marxism? I'm Rachel Parker,
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and you're watching Rachel in the Republic.
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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Rachel in the Republic. Joining me today to discuss
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the phenomenon of the Harris campaign is author, speaker, and host of the New Discourses podcast,
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James Lindsay. James, thanks so much for being here today.
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Hey, good to see you.
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So let's start by diving into some of the coverage that we've been seeing of Harris' campaign. We
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know the legacy media is very supportive of her. We've seen a lot of memes pushing her.
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If you were just scrolling on X, like I spend a lot of time doing, you'd think that she was a
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shoe-in. You'd think that she is a very popular candidate. Do you think that this is the reality
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on the ground? Is this actual real momentum, or is this something that we're just seeing online
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and isn't translating into actual support on the ground?
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I think it's totally fake, honestly. Not that we should become complacent about it,
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but I actually think it's completely fake. I haven't met a human being in reality,
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yet, who supports Kamala Harris. I know lots of people who are Democrats who voted for Biden,
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who voted for Hillary, who I can't even say what they say about Kamala Harris. It's F Kamala,
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and they are not big supporters. These are people from New York City. These are people
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from Blue Bastions in the United States, and she's just absolutely not popular. So I think this
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is primarily a media creation. What with all of these videos, it was kind of funny, you know,
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what were they chanting behind her just then in that clip? Not going back, not going back,
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something like that. But then they're segregating their volunteers for their campaign. What are you
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talking about? And then the people that are giving the money to Donald Trump primarily right now are
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people like Elon Musk, who are literally building rockets to go to Mars. It looks very much like
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one side's going forward and one side's going back, and they've got it completely backwards.
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But I don't see any organic support. Apparently, last night, she went to some gigantic conference
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or concert in Atlanta and was going to speak. So they had this huge crowd and was like, look at the
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huge crowd and was for a concert. And she started to speak and people just started to leave.
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So I don't think that this is real. I think it's a complete fabrication. I think it's a television
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show playing out before our eyes. Yeah, I think what you were saying about the event yesterday was
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pretty stunning. I mean, she had Megan Thee Stallion there. So the fact that she has to pull and convince
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these big name artists to come and open for her to try to draw crowds and then immediately begin
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leaving, like the crowds don't even really respect her enough to stick around for her speech, which
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I heard was only 30 minutes. Also, I think it's very telling that she even had Megan Thee Stallion,
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like these are really vulgar artists who sing about really vulgar things. I don't think these are the
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people that we want to be promoting at the front and foremost of American democracy. But, you know,
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you've just spoken a little bit about how we seem to be going back and how this seems to not be an
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organic creation, organic momentum. And one of the things that I've just been so
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stunned by so far during this campaign is some of the level of attempts to rewrite history.
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For example, if you were to ask a chat AI service about the Donald Trump assassination,
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they wouldn't have any answers for you. And at the same time, we've seen people lying and saying,
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no, Kamala Harris didn't encourage her supporters on X to donate to get BLM supporters out on bail during
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the Minneapolis riots. And we've seen so many examples of this during the campaign. I mean,
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how can the Republicans even begin to combat this when it seems like something that social media
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platforms, even Facebook on Meta, they were for a while censoring photos of Donald Trump's
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assassination attempt. I know that policy was reversed. They said it was an error. But how can
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the Republicans even begin to combat this? They're combating it very effectively, honestly,
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just by documenting that it's happening, exposing that it's happening. And it's happening rampantly.
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It's actually, you know, straight out of the 1984 playbook. He controls what is called the eternal
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present, actually, you know, in which the party's always right. But he controls the past, controls
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the future is the famous line from Orwell. And I had to pause there because it's like, wait,
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did Lenin say that or was it Orwell? That was Orwell. Okay. But I mean, yeah, look at this,
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this inorganic people leaving this concert when Kamala speaks. And compare that with last weekend,
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Donald Trump spoke at the Turning Point Faith Believers Summit. The Turning Point Faith Believers
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Summit, that's kind of a niche thing. It was their first attempt at doing a, as an organization,
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doing a big conference. Everybody knows Turning Point USA does big conferences and Turning Point
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Action does big conferences, but Turning Point Faith has not tried one before. And so they have this,
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they anticipate about 2,000 attendees, they get about 2,200. And then it turns out that they announced
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that Donald Trump's going to speak and suddenly they sell 12 to 1,400 more tickets.
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And absolutely jam pack the West Palm Beach Convention Center, absolutely full, just because
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Donald Trump was coming. They had a 50% increase in the number of people who came. And if you've
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ever seen Trump speak, which I know you have, he tends to speak forever. And everybody stayed the
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whole time, standing room only. I stood in the back the entire time. And the energy difference is just
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unbelievable. So again, I think this is just an algorithmic creation. And I think that in a media
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production, in a stage production, frankly, theater kids pretending that they like Kamala Harris. And I
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think that the Republicans fight back by exposing it every time. Hey, look, the lady that they just put
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up as gushing is an actress. Hey, look, you know, the meta AI is rewriting history in real time. And this is
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actually shocking to people. More people see this than are going to opine about it publicly. And so
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the way you combat it is just to keep showing it. So when we talk about people are recognizing this,
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I mean, when I talk to Americans and I say, do you think that the 2020 election was stolen?
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Even if they don't believe that it was stolen in terms of fake ballots, they do say, well, you know,
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Donald Trump was dragged through the mud by a media for four years. So that was really unfair.
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And, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop story is something that I think has become really prevalent.
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We saw how that was suppressed online. And now we're seeing that same thing, but in a much fuller
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scale. And I know that you're saying the Republicans are doing a really good job of combating this.
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But do you think that people who are in the middle are getting a sense of the fact that they are not
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receiving information fairly? Do you think that the Republicans message is getting to those people
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in the middle who the Republicans are going to need to win over to secure government?
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I honestly don't know. I'm a very online person. What's different between the 2020 election and the
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2024 election now is that X is effectively a free speech zone. Twitter was highly contoured,
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to put it mildly, along with the rest. So the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story,
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among other stories, was actually not that difficult to make happen across social media.
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And that's not the case now because what's happening on X is actually free speech. And I mean,
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Elon Musk is putting out very rude and hilarious commentary about his belief in free speech,
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as a matter of fact. Once again, that shouldn't be repeated. So I don't think that's likely to
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change. So this is a situation now where it's a very different playing field. I don't know how far
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into the middle it's reaching. I know it's reaching some because, like I said, I'm hearing
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from people who are not necessarily very online people who are thinking that the Democrats are up to
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no good, that this seems very fake and artificial. It's also just jarring. Kamala Harris is one of the
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least popular political figures in modern history. And now all of a sudden, she's like the greatest
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thing since sliced bread. And people, it's just jarring to people. It's a cognitive dissonance
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moment that kind of opens up the opportunity. What I'm more worried about, honestly, is Republicans
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messaging. It's like the Republican dunk machine, we might call it, can't leave alone the things that
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actually help Kamala's chances with kind of center left-leaning voters who are very aware that
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something's wrong with the Democratic Party, because I hear from them all the time, and they're very
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uncomfortable with voting for a Democrat, and they're considering voting for a Republican the
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first time. Then all they're seeing are very sexual jokes or race-based jokes about Kamala Harris,
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which portrays her in a lot of different ways. But I mean, the simple version is it makes her a
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sympathetic character. Here are the cavemen right-wingers bullying a woman of color,
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accusing her of only being able to rise through the ranks by DEI in sexual favors. And it's very
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crude and very crass. It makes her actually look sympathetic. But more importantly than that,
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the entire message of the left, the whole message of Marxism is that there's an unfair system that
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holds certain people back. And so now you have this woman, if we believe these memes the Republicans
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are putting out, you have this woman who rose through the ranks of an unjust system using unjust
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mechanisms. So who knows it better than her? And who would be able to get to the top and dismantle that
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evil system better than somebody who had to manipulate its circumstances to get to where she is? You're
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actually, when you make these memes, the Kamala knee pads and whatever else, you're actually just helping
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her. It doesn't matter if that's true or not. What you want to do and what the Republicans need to do
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with their messaging isn't just expose this. What they need to focus on with their messaging and
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what people, everyday people need to focus on when they talk about Kamala Harris isn't all of this or
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isn't that she's an idiot. Maybe you should talk about the fact that she's a Marxist, but definitely
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you should talk about the fact that the policies she implemented hurt the people she said she was
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trying to help. When she implemented crime policies in San Francisco, they hurt black people,
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they hurt Latinos, they hurt immigrants. When she does her stuff with the border, it's going to hurt
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legal immigrants. It's also going to hurt illegal immigrants by creating a permanent underclass in
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our society. This is all just very damaging. When she pushes the transgender thing, she's hurting
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women. And you could just go down the line. Whatever group she says she's trying to help,
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she actually hurts and her policies and their outcomes reflect that. That's what people should
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be focusing on. So when you talk about people should actually be fighting her policies and not maybe
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this, you know, untoward history that she may or may not have, which we continuously see sort of
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what's being called the freak right doing. One of the things that is sort of a new phenomenon is that
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when she was vice president, Kamala Harris was named The Borders Are. And now we're seeing the media
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going into overdrive saying, no, she was never The Borders Are. She was never in charge of the
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border. We know she was. They themselves said it time and time again, just a few years ago. Now you're
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saying it's important that we stick that record to her. Do you think that the Republicans are doing a good
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job of effectively pointing out and saying, listen, she was in charge of the border and she failed on that.
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And that is one of the top issues. When I go to rallies in the States and I ask Americans,
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what are you voting based on the rally? The border crisis is something I hear time and time again.
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Do you think that they've been effective in really sticking her to that record so far?
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No, not particularly. And I think they need to do more, but the way that they need to do more
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is less with numbers and figures and less with this kind of vague sense that the borders are
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catastrophe and more with actually hard facts, but stories. They need to tell stories. They need to tell
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stories of people like Lake and Riley who were raped and murdered by these illegals coming across
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the border. They need to tell these tragic stories and say, this is what happens when Kamala Harris's
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policies about the border, which she was put in charge of, get put into practice. This is the
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failure that it creates. And when I talk about talking about hard figures, I think one of the most
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shocking things I heard about the border came from a friend of mine named Frank Gaffney, who's kind of
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very famous in conservative politics in the US. And Frank Gaffney pointed out to me that at least
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two divisions worth of Chinese military, the actual PLA, the actual People's Liberation Army,
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two divisions worth of them have come across our Southern border posing as South Americans or
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Central Americans that are seeking refugee status. And so now we have two military divisions from a
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hostile state somewhere spread out throughout our country. He told me also that there may be as many
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as 10 to 15,000 Chinese special forces that have come across our Southern border and have filled, you
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know, whatever locations, various locations throughout the United States. Nobody knows where they are. And this
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should be horrifying to Americans to realize that you have literally entire military divisions of a hostile
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power in your country that could decide at any moment to create mayhem or to do terrorism like we've never,
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never seen in this country. And so these kinds of, these kinds of facts and figures and attaching it
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to Kamala Harris's complete failure when she was tasked with, with, you know, the border, I think is
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an absolutely crucial thing for Republicans to be doing. And it's, it's so, I don't know, sterile the way
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that they seem to talk about it. It's, it's shocking stuff that you're saying. I mean, we have our own
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problems with immigration here in Canada, but a large of that is just the fact that we're paying
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to house immigrants and asylum seekers in hotels and the Canadian people really can't afford
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that right now. So, I mean, one of the other things I want to ask you, you talk about Kamala
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Harris being very unpopular, being unorganic. If you spend any time online, you've seen people say,
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oh, you know, she's just a plant. Do you think that she's just a plant? And if so, who's really
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running things over in the democratic party? Because we know Joe Biden wasn't the run running things.
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So who's actually in charge over there?
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Well, given that, um, the Obamas, uh, Barack and Michelle withheld their, their, their endorsement
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of Kamala, as long as they did, there's a strong suggestion that they are senior officials within
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the, the operation that's running, um, whatever's going on in the democratic party and the country.
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I don't know though. Nobody knows who's actually running the country. Nobody knows who's running
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Kamala. My take on Kamala is that Kamala is a, what the Chinese communist party would have called a
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cadre, which is to say a low level communist functionary. She's a striver. She's a careerist.
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So she is a communist. She knows her Marxist literature in and out. Her father was a Marxist.
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She was raised as a red diaper baby. All of her catchphrases like fall out of, you didn't just fall
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out of a coconut tree. That's a Marxist. It's not specifically, it didn't like come out of Karl
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Marx, but it's a Marxist sentiment. That line means that the, the weight of historical conditions
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weighs upon who you are, which is a fundamental point of Marxism. We are, we are the product of
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our historical conditions. Um, she's always saying that we need to address the root causes. She says
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that her border failure was because we're not going to deal with the superficial aspect of,
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you know, millions of people, including divisions of Chinese, the Chinese army coming across the border.
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We're going to deal with the root causes, but the root causes are always systems of power. In this
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case for, for migration, it would be climate change. It would be colonialism. That's driving
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all of these wars. It's driving these people to be refugees, which is going to just encourage more
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of the, the, not just leftist narratives, but the, the border crossing in the first place.
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And so this is another Marxist thing, her very famous, you know, we are able to see what can be
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unburdened by what has been is the kind of Marxist sentiment of leaving behind kind of having an
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awakened consciousness. That's able to see what can be an imagined world of a socialist utopia
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that is unburdened by the historical conditions that have brought us here. This is straight Marxism.
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And of course, everything she promotes is not just the diversity and inclusion side, but equity,
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equity, equity. She very famously in 2020, put out a video about equity, which she has echoed in the
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past repeatedly that it means everybody ending up at the same place, which means equal outcomes,
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which means redistribution, which means socialism. So the woman's a communist. I don't think she's a
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very high level communist. Like I said, I think she's a low level functionary in the communist party
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who is a useful face. I don't even think she's that useful. Honestly, I think that the reason that
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they actually decided to endorse her and go all in on her is because there's hundreds of millions of
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dollars of campaign money that went to Biden that can only go to her and only if he steps down for
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medical reasons, which is what he has done. And so they can't give that money to anybody else. I think
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at least 90 million, 95 million of them somewhere in that range is absolutely like it's even under
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legal challenge to go to Kamala, not even to go to somebody else, Gavin or Gavin Newsom or Gretchen
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Whitmer or whoever else they might throw up there. And so she's, in my opinion, she's a low level
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functionary. She has controllers that are higher levels. And I don't know who those people are. We
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have a shrewd guess to make that Obama, the Obamas are among them because of how long they were able
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to withhold their endorsement and what it meant when they gave it that, you know, there's your kingmaker
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right there on that side that tells you an awful lot. So speaking of Kamala being a Marxist, I was shocked
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to see this week. I think most of the sane American public was shocked to see this week that the
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people who are volunteering to help the Harris campaign are actually dividing themselves based
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on race. We have a clip here. This is the white woman for Kamala Harris. This is a short clip of
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an introductory video from the woman who was leading the training. This is just sickening and shocking
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stuff. Let's play this next clip. Ariel Fodar, affectionately known as Mrs. Frazzle to her combined
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audience of over 1.5 million followers, is here to help gentle parent us through this election.
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Thank you. Hi, everybody. I am so honored to speak today. I am like shaking to just be among such
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incredible company. We are here because as if you were here earlier, you've heard BIPOC women have
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tapped us in as white women to step up, listen and get involved this election season. This is a really
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important time and we all need to use our voices and influence for the greater good. No matter who you
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are, you are all influencers in some way. So tonight I'm going to share some do's and don'ts for getting
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involved in politics online and navigating the toxicity that comes with it. And spoiler alert,
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as much as the toxicity can come from the outside, it can come from us too. So first don't isolate
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yourself. We can do our best work when we're in community together like we are tonight because the
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toxic feels smaller when we support each other, but don't make it about yourself. As white women,
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we need to use our privilege to make positive changes. If you find yourself talking over or
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speaking for BIPOC individuals or God forbid, correcting them, just take a beat. And instead we
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can put our listening ears on. So do learn from and amplify the voices of those who have been
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historically marginalized and use the privilege you have in order to push for systemic change.
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As white people, we have a lot to learn and unlearn. So do check your blind spots. You are
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responsible for your algorithm, believe it or not. So obviously, you know, this woman, she goes by
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Mrs. Fraudel. She's promoting a lot of really harmful ideas there. I hate this concept that
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because I'm a white person, I'm not allowed to comment on certain things. Actually, I'm a human
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with rational faculties. I can read stuff and I can draw, I can look at the evidence and draw my own
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conclusions. I think that's how society should and has operated for many years. You posted online,
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you said this is textbook Maoism. Explain what you mean by that.
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Well, I mean, before I say that, let's just be really clear. That's what we just watched is fake.
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If you can't see that that's fake, I'm not quite sure how to help you. This is a woman who was an
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actress who was brought in to do what appears to be an off the cuff presentation on a hastily put
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together program who was very definitely reading a script. It was very obvious. So if it's not very
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obvious to you, I don't actually know how to help you. But what you just watched was a performance by
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an actress who is providing a scripted line and that script is textbook Maoism. What you're seeing
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is what Mao actually, what you're watching is a televised struggle session. What she's doing is
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giving a contradictory information that makes it almost impossible to do it right. Everybody should
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lean into the fact that we're working together and the toxicity feels small, but don't make it about
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yourself. And that's like very, very difficult instruction. So everything you do is now going to,
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you know, they can, that they don't like is going to be twisted to say that you made it about yourself,
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but we have to use our privilege in order to work, to make systemic change on behalf of the oppressed
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minority. This is again, textbook Maoism. The idea is that, you know, we have to enter not just from
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criticism of what's wrong in society, but hey, look inside ourselves too. The toxicities here, we have to
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have self-criticism as well. We have to transform ourselves. What Mao Zedong actually called the process
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that she's initiating with that little scripted performance is called ideological remolding.
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That's the way he phrased it. You have to constantly remold yourselves. I could read to you
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from Mao Zedong saying that especially the intellectuals, which would be anybody who had
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an education in China, which in a peasant society, you know, is, you know, relatively few people.
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Well, we compare here, it's these kinds of professional laptop class, especially,
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you know, urban white people. That's your intellectuals, so to speak. Now they're the
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people with bachelor's and master's degrees. And those people have to constantly ideologically
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remold themselves in order to help the oppressed minority. Again, this is textbook Maoism. And what
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you're watching is a televised struggle session that's being put together by actors and actresses,
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in this case, just actresses for white women. Uh, that is meant to put a guilt and shame dynamic,
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what they call it, what the Maoists called a cult of confession for how you failed to live up to
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your duty to, um, to, to help the, the oppressed or the people as, as they were called in China. So
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this is a process of what is what, what Mao called ideological remolding, but what is more
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accurately and affectionately termed brainwashing. That is a brainwashing session that we're watching
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and it pulls on emotional strings in order to get people to feel self failure, to feel guilt about
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their inability to have done well enough for the program for the greater good, as she said,
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and to get them therefore to commit to greater action. It's like, uh, it's like a, it's, it's
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literally like a cult shaming episode in order to extract more activity out of people.
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Okay. So James, when you talk about this being a brainwashing session,
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how is this going to benefit the Harris campaign? Well, the thing is, is that the people who become
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committed to, uh, through struggle or criticism and self-criticism is, is the kind of technical
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aspect of it become extremely zealous. They actually, um, will basically become effective
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soldiers for the program so that they are going to have not just your usual level of, oh my gosh,
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it's an election year and it's an important election kind of levels of political commitment.
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They're going to have the kind of religious fervor that you see with, with cult adherents. If they
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go through this process, they're the kind of people who will start to cut off family, who will put
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out ultimatums about, you know, whether or not people can be in relationships. They're going to
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go to their workplace and cause trouble about it. That's the kind of commitment that you get as a
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result of this. I don't know whether it's going to benefit at this point, the Harris campaign, but in,
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in, in China, what these sessions did was they created a tremendous amount of, um, power consolidation
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for the Maoist faction of the CCP and enabled Mao to, um, basically maintain ultimate totalitarian
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power over China. Uh, I'm not saying that they're going to grant ultimate totalitarian power to Kamala
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Harris, but the democratic machine is actually in the, is the thing that is, is going to, um, benefit
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primarily from this by keeping, I mean, let's just be very, very, very blunt without using any two,
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but two inappropriate language. They're keeping these women on the democratic plantation. Um,
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in a very real sense, it's, if you go outside of this, we're going back to the bad part of history,
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nobody can leave the fence and these people will, will enforce that upon others. So one of the,
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the key benefits is that all of these wavering Democrats on the edge thinking something's badly
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wrong, who get caught by this emotional appeal and get sucked into the self-criticism vortex again,
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will pull themselves back into the center of, uh, as I just called it, the democratic plantation,
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and they will not indulge their, uh, their, their, their doubts at all. Now, on the other hand,
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there are a lot of people who will be turned off by it. So it may not benefit them. There will be a lot
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of people who turn or turned off by it. And those people in particular, what they are going to learn
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from something like this is, well, I can vote for Trump, but I just better keep my mouth shut,
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which means you have this gigantic disaffected Democrat Trump sandbag, possibly hanging out
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there where they're telling everybody, yeah, yeah, I'm voting for Kamala. Yeah. Yeah. I'm voting for
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Kamala. Of course I'm with her. And then they're actually going to show up and vote for Trump.
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That was a huge effect on the Republican side in 2016 that actually ended up, um, spoiling the polls
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rather strongly for Donald Trump, uh, victory. So this may come now from the
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disaffected Democrat side. So it's hard to say how this is going to affect. This is in my, again,
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in my opinion, this is playing badly. I don't think it's very, very effective except on TV and
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in the algorithms. Sure. And James, just my last question for you here. I mean, we played that clip
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of a white woman for Kamala Harris and, you know, you've explained how it was sort of brainwashing.
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She's trying to guilt the woman for feeling badly about the color of their skin. How would this play
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out in, in a scenario where it's, let's say black men for Harris? Would it be a similar thing where
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we're seeing a struggle session or are they taking a different approaches, a different approach in
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those types of scenarios? No, it's basically the same. I mean, they would use somewhat different
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language. They're not going to talk about, we have to use our privilege to support. They're not going
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to use that kind of, uh, self-criticism based guilt. We haven't done enough to help the, the poor
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oppressed from our position of privilege. What they're going to do is they're going to get the opposite
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side of the messaging, which is the, um, you are the oppressed and these people have done you wrong
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and they've always done you wrong and you don't have a fair shake. And if you don't get together,
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if we don't work in solidarity, they're just going to continue to cheat us. But it's the same
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concept. It's just going to be from the opposite side. You don't motivate. So in China, it was rich
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peasants and poor peasants. They separated the population. They'd go to a village and they say almost
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arbitrarily. And in some cases, literally arbitrarily, they'd say, these are the rich peasants and these are
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the poor peasants. A lot of times what would make you rich, by the way, would be to have two cooking
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pans instead of one or to have a window in your mud hut or to have, you know, an extra square meter
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of floor space compared to your neighbor. I mean, such small things, or you'd have like, you know,
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two farm tools and this would be it. And this was the difference between rich and poor. Uh, but what
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they would do is they would, they would push the guilt on the rich and they would demonize the rich
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peasants among the poor peasants and say, those people, the reason you don't have enough to eat
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is because that guy has a window in his mud hut. And they would actually create a tremendous amount
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of hatred in that underclass against the overclass. They teach them to blame the overclass for
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everything. And so what you end up with, I just had this conversation with a friend of mine at the
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turning point. Um, what's his last name? Steven's his first name. I'll think of his last name sooner
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or later after we're done. I'm sure. Uh, he's a Davis, Steven Davis. He's a fantastic guy. He's,
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he's a gigantic black bodybuilder guy. And he talked, we talked about this specifically
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about how, and I talked to some of the Blexit people there as well. The, the, the strictness
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with which you are not allowed, if you are a racial minority to go off a script that your own
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community will attack you and say that you're not, you know, doing something about solidarity.
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You're not doing it right. That dynamic is what's going to be generated on the opposite side. So if
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it was black dudes for Harris, which frankly, I don't know where they're going to find those.
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Um, but if they managed to cobble one together, maybe it's AI characters, I don't know.
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And, and do that. That's the kind of messaging that you're going to hear. Um, what, what I'm seeing
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actually hearing is that that's actually playing out in, in black churches. Um, and they are working
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very, very hard. And like I said, my friend, Steven Davis was saying, um, you know, when it,
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what, what struck me is he said that, you know, it was just a few years ago that he woke up
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as he said, and when he woke up, he's like, the first thing I realized is I don't have
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to be racist anymore. And they're going to keep that racial enmity going on the so-called
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oppressed side of the Marxist oppressor versus oppressed dynamic. Uh, so it's a different
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message, but it's the same process.
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Wow. Certainly not going to be seeing a lot of unity this election cycle. I would imagine
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with all of that, then James, thank you so much for your insight today.
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Yes, ma'am.
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