Juno News - July 10, 2025


Toronto AS DANGEROUS as Iraq + RCMP & CBC agree that “traditional values” are radical and extremist


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you
00:00:07.480 today, folks. A little later in the episode, I'm going to play an outrageous clip that has been
00:00:12.580 going viral online of an RCMP staff sergeant on the CBC talking about extremism. She literally
00:00:19.900 uses the example of someone who might be becoming extreme by saying someone who has traditional
00:00:25.540 values. So having traditional values, according to the RCMP and according to the CBC, makes you
00:00:30.840 extremist. You can't make this stuff up. It is absolutely crazy. But first, I'm very pleased
00:00:35.520 today to be joined by a new guest on the program and a new face here at Juno News. I'm talking about
00:00:41.200 Ron Chinzer. Ron is the host of our new show called The Crime Report, which airs every Friday here
00:00:47.320 on Juno News. So Ron was the conservative candidate in Oakville East during the recent 2025 federal
00:00:54.120 election for Pierre Polyev's Conservatives. Unfortunately, he did not win his seat, but
00:00:58.400 their loss is our victory because he has now joined Juno News. He's a former police officer with more
00:01:03.740 than 20 years of law experience in law enforcement, specializing in gang prevention and organized
00:01:09.900 crime. So he's a perfect person to be talking about the absolute crisis of violent crime, of home
00:01:16.080 invasions, of carjacking, just out of control, third world crime that is happening in Toronto.
00:01:21.940 So in Toronto, it's not just a Toronto problem. I know it's spilling over. It happens now in places
00:01:26.140 like Calgary, Vancouver, Montreal, but Toronto is sort of ground zero of this and it's kind of
00:01:32.400 becoming normalized, right? Like we're normalizing the idea that, hey, in Canada, sometimes violent
00:01:37.720 thugs just break into your house in the middle of the night, hold you and your family hostage and
00:01:41.820 steal all your stuff. What are you going to do about it? And I cannot believe that it was not a
00:01:46.080 bigger issue in the recent election. But anyway, Ron, very pleased to have you on the show. Very
00:01:51.960 pleased to have you joining us with Juno News and welcome to the show.
00:01:55.280 Thank you, Candice. Thanks for having me.
00:01:56.700 So the story that I want to talk to you about first is the story that broke out of Toronto over
00:02:01.820 the weekend. So a jury has acquitted a teen who claimed self-defense in a fatal Toronto school
00:02:08.620 shooting, saying he carried a gun because his neighborhood, which is Scarborough, which is a part
00:02:12.780 of Toronto, felt like Iraq. So a jury found on Friday that this 20-year-old man, who's 20 years
00:02:19.320 old, he was accused of second-degree murder. He shot and killed somebody at his school. He claimed
00:02:26.640 that the victim was 18-year-old Jefferson Gurrier, was lunging at him with a knife. And so this young
00:02:32.960 man, whose name is concealed because he was a minor during the time of the incident, pulled out a gun
00:02:38.720 and shot him four times, killing him. And so the fact that a jury in Canada buys a story that, hey,
00:02:45.320 you know, Toronto is kind of a third-world country now. We've let in so many people from so many
00:02:49.740 different backgrounds who don't have any respect for Canadian values or Canadian law. So our city
00:02:54.340 now feels like a third-world war zone. So it's okay to carry a gun and shoot someone. So I'm just
00:03:00.760 wondering if we can get your thoughts on this story, Ron.
00:03:04.380 Listen, my thoughts are going to be similar to anybody else who probably read this and looked at this,
00:03:08.460 where they scratch their head. I mean, if you look at what's been happening in the GTA and the rest of
00:03:12.960 the country, but let's just hammer it out on the GTA over the last couple of years. This is where,
00:03:16.880 you know, even when I read this, I was confused because it doesn't set a solid precedence going
00:03:21.460 forward. On one hand, you have people defending their homes and their families getting charged
00:03:25.940 in the process of defending them. And these are normal, innocent people, by the way. And then on the
00:03:29.380 other hand, you have within the same month, a jury acquitting somebody who had said, look, I had to
00:03:34.680 defend myself because my neighborhood in Toronto reminded me of Iraq, a place where I grew up.
00:03:40.120 And that is telling because if somebody who grew up in a, you know, third-world potential conflict
00:03:46.400 zone started to recognize that within our streets in the city of Toronto, being the largest
00:03:52.440 municipality in the country, that says a lot more than I think we're giving credit for, but blows my
00:03:57.280 mind. Well, you're right. It's unbelievable that we are dealing with this crime crisis in Toronto,
00:04:03.180 where you have armed thugs breaking into people's homes. There was a couple examples of cases where
00:04:08.380 people weren't initially charged. There's a, I'm thinking of a story, Milton, Ontario, back in July
00:04:13.080 23, murder charges were dropped against a Milton, Ontario man who shot and killed a home intruder.
00:04:18.460 So originally he was, he was charged. You know, someone comes into your house and is armed and you
00:04:25.560 shoot them in self-defense. It's surprising that that would be charged. But back to the Toronto case in
00:04:30.600 the Toronto story, I mean, this happened at a school, right? So this caused a lot of concern
00:04:35.240 for parents, moms in Toronto thinking, you know, I'm sending my child to a public school. You kind
00:04:41.120 of assume that they're going to be safe, that there's not going to be guns and violence. And yet,
00:04:45.660 I mean, clearly the jury believed this man's story. Just to clarify, he's still facing illegal
00:04:52.580 firearm charges. He remains in custody and returns to court next week to address the remaining
00:04:56.500 firearm charges. So it's not a full acquittal at this point, but still, I kind of wondered about
00:05:02.440 the precedent, right? So if you're allowed to carry a gun, are you allowed to carry a concealed weapon
00:05:06.540 now in Canada? I mean, if this young man was acquitted, clearly a jury believes that Toronto
00:05:12.220 is now so unsafe that one needs to carry, you know, not just a weapon in your home to protect
00:05:17.960 yourself from potential invaders, but a concealed weapon that you would even bring to a school. I mean,
00:05:23.240 does this form any sort of precedent in, and what do you make of that?
00:05:28.040 Yeah, absolutely. It does. I think there's a couple of precedents that it sets here. I think
00:05:31.000 the first thing being that, you know, first off, whenever there's a jury trial or jury selection,
00:05:36.060 that's up to the defense. So that's up to the accused person to decide, are we going to go by
00:05:40.740 a trial by a judge, which is going to be a very technical trial, or are we going to go by jury
00:05:44.800 where we think we have a better chance of convincing them of the situation that we're in being,
00:05:49.480 can I put a jury member into the position that I'm in? And would that jury say, well,
00:05:53.180 you know what, in that situation, it's reasonable to assume. And that's the route that they chose.
00:05:57.420 And that, to me, that shows a shift in culture. You know, I can remember being a police officer
00:06:01.100 earlier on when all these crime shows used to come out and all these crime shows, they would find a
00:06:05.480 piece of glass and they'd analyze it in forensics and they'd tell you to make and model and speed and
00:06:10.180 all these things you couldn't really do. But we would go to trials and we'd have juries
00:06:14.460 and defense lawyers saying, well, there was no DNA. There was no evidence, regardless of this
00:06:19.100 person being known to police, caught on video, other evidence of the scene. The community and
00:06:23.820 the jury would always ask for things that sometimes they would see in movies. And in this particular
00:06:27.980 case, you know, the other part of this that's interesting to me on the outer layer is what's
00:06:32.460 changed in our culture and our community now as a society, where for some people, we can put
00:06:37.500 ourselves in their shoes like this and say, yes, you were 17 at the time, you had a firearm,
00:06:42.540 you said you felt, you know, unsafe in your neighborhood. And somebody lunged at you,
00:06:46.220 allegedly, according to this article, and you decided to respond with shooting and killing
00:06:50.220 them ultimately. And that's forgivable. That's okay. But we're still going to-
00:06:53.900 Out of school. I mean, add on to that, that there were other students nearby that the accused shooter
00:06:59.420 was a student. The other person apparently was a bully, his bully who tormented this young man.
00:07:03.660 That's what the jury heard anyway. And he, so he shot and killed him in the school yard,
00:07:08.860 just outside in a parking lot, which again, just adds another layer to it.
00:07:12.460 It does. And it becomes, you know, well, what's the repercussion for this type of behavior?
00:07:15.740 We all send our kids to school under the guise and under the, the true responsibility of the
00:07:20.940 school. You're going to do everything in the best interest of my kid, especially when it comes down
00:07:23.900 to safety. And most of us parents in Canada, you know, one income is not enough. We know this.
00:07:28.540 People are working, not just one job. They're working two jobs, especially couples.
00:07:32.460 So realistically, most people I speak to, like all my friends, once our kids are at school,
00:07:36.140 we have this blind trust that they're going to be safe there. We have this blind trust that they're
00:07:39.260 going to be reasonable. But when you see this happening, especially in places like Toronto,
00:07:42.940 on the outskirts, again, it sets more of this anxiety. And this is where we talk about ideologies,
00:07:48.780 you know, Toronto got rid of school officers back in like 2015, because they said it was racist and
00:07:52.940 they said it was, it was not fair to students. Now it's starting to come back. The reason I bring
00:07:57.260 that up was this happened in a school. We have a jury now who's, who's probably changed their mind
00:08:01.900 and their culture on a little things. And that's indicative of a larger process. And then you have,
00:08:06.140 you know, now, now law enforcement now is being told, come back in and clean up this mess.
00:08:10.540 This is just not good all the way around. And I think this is where most reasonable people see
00:08:14.060 these results and they start asking themselves, well, I've been asking for months, where is the
00:08:18.540 clarity on how I can defend myself? And it's always been met with a question mark. Meanwhile,
00:08:22.860 something in your face caught on camera where the person isn't really saying, I never did it.
00:08:27.180 They're saying I did it, but here's why they're allowed off. And that's where most normal,
00:08:31.260 good people who don't get a gun to protect themselves illegally are saying, guys, where is the lines
00:08:35.420 here? I don't get it. And this is where you have what I feel like is sometimes a two tier justice
00:08:39.660 system. Well, it certainly seems that way. I mean, especially given that presumably this
00:08:43.500 firearm was not legally acquired. You're talking about a culture shift. I want to go down memory
00:08:47.980 lane a little bit. Just three years ago, a trigger warning to the audience. I'm going to play a clip of
00:08:52.060 former prime minister, Justin Trudeau here. He was on a podcast and he told us that in Canada,
00:08:57.900 you cannot use a gun for self defense. Play that clip. We have a culture where the difference is
00:09:04.860 guns can be used for hunting or for sport shooting in Canada. And there are lots of gun owners and
00:09:09.900 they're mostly lost by respecting and law abiding, but you can't use a gun for self protection in
00:09:16.780 Canada. That's not a right that you have in the constitution or anywhere else. So this is Justin
00:09:22.780 Trudeau's playbook, import the third world, gut our justice system, make our cities incredibly unsafe,
00:09:29.340 and then go out there and tell Canadians, oh, by the way, that gun that you have, we're going to take
00:09:32.860 that away. And you don't have the right to defend yourself. If someone is invading your house or in
00:09:38.060 this case of this young man in Toronto was lunging you at you with a knife, according to our former
00:09:43.260 prime minister there, you don't have self defense. I mean, to me, this is like how to destroy a country
00:09:49.100 in three easy steps. But I wonder what Justin Trudeau would say about this current case and a
00:09:53.580 young man who presumably came to Canada under Justin Trudeau's watch. He feels like the country
00:09:58.860 he came to is more like Iraq than, than, than the Canada that you know, you and I grew up in.
00:10:03.740 Well, they'll be selective about it. Likely he would pivot back to this young man, this 17 year old
00:10:08.060 who grew up in such a terrible environment. And what are all the things that we could have offered
00:10:11.660 this person? So this never happened, which is look, it's a, it's a conversation that should be had. But
00:10:15.340 again, he's not looking at the, the most obvious of things here. You know, when you have, in this
00:10:21.660 particular case here, this young person who murdered another young person, they had an illegal firearm
00:10:27.740 with one specific purpose and one intent to protect themselves by the means of a firearm. Now let's take
00:10:34.220 a look at law abiding firearm owners in the country. They have guns registered. They follow the courses.
00:10:38.780 They get routine background checks on a daily basis with the purpose of other things. They have the guns
00:10:43.340 for hunting, for sport shooting, uh, their collectibles. So that's what they have it for.
00:10:48.220 And then here you have somebody who's, who got an illegal gun allegedly for one specific purpose,
00:10:52.940 and they used it for that purpose. And they were found not guilty of a serious crime being murdered.
00:10:58.700 And this is again, where you have this two, two tiered system of two perspectives. Now, look,
00:11:03.900 you can have anything with you, um, and not have it for a purpose of having it self-defense. So for
00:11:10.220 example, if this, you can walk around the streets with a knife on you, but if you get stopped by
00:11:14.460 police and you say, yes, I have this knife on me because I use it to cut my apples or cut my oranges,
00:11:18.860 that's not illegal. If you say I have this with me because it's for self self-protection and for
00:11:23.020 self-defense, now it's a weapon under the criminal code. Now you're stuck and you're going to get
00:11:26.460 charged with it. There is no logical reason for a 17 year old to have a firearm with them at school.
00:11:32.460 Zero. It's criminal 100% through and through. And that intent is the most important part.
00:11:37.100 Number one, how did you get access to this firearm? Number two, what purpose did you have it for?
00:11:40.780 If you have it loaded, ready to go. And you're, you're saying it's for my defense and you're in
00:11:44.220 a school setting that has to be heightened and amplified to be like, well, what's the bigger
00:11:47.580 picture here? And then what is the net outcome if we don't find a guilty plea? But this is what,
00:11:51.740 this is probably why they went by way of jury. Jury doesn't understand the technicalities.
00:11:55.660 They're going to go on an emotional lens of, let me paint a picture of this poor kid
00:11:59.580 in this environment, which look, I'm sure it's a tough environment, but we have to look at the
00:12:03.900 end result. He killed somebody and he had a weapon for one single purpose. Unlike most
00:12:07.420 lawful gun owners in the country. Well, I think I speak for so many
00:12:10.540 parents in the GTA, Ron, when I say that the complete crime crisis that we're experiencing
00:12:16.700 is terrifying. I mean, I watch your show. There's several other social media influencers who are
00:12:20.700 constantly sharing clips of home invasions, people breaking into someone's house in the middle of the
00:12:25.900 night, presumably trying to steal a car, steal some jewelry, but it's terrifying. I mean, it's like
00:12:31.340 unbelievable this happens in our country, in Canada. You were talking to me a bit off air about,
00:12:36.380 you know, why this is happening, what's led to it. And one of the things that I want to highlight to
00:12:40.940 the audience is the fact that we just don't have laws on the books to deal with this kind of thing.
00:12:46.700 Like if someone breaks into someone's home and holds the family hostage, that basically gets treated as
00:12:52.380 like a property crime, almost like a slap on the wrist, which is so unconscionable. So maybe you can just
00:12:58.540 sort of walk us through what's happening and what you think can be done to fix this problem.
00:13:03.660 Yeah. So what's happening is this is the evolution of crime. It's what is the path of least resistance
00:13:08.620 funny enough to be able to get the biggest outcome. It's like anything else. So in this particular case,
00:13:12.700 COVID happens, everybody gets locked in at home, mental health crisis, isolation, alcoholism,
00:13:17.260 and drug use goes up. Drugs have to come from someplace, generally organized crime delivered by
00:13:22.620 street level gangs. And then when gangs are dealing drugs, they have to defend their territory,
00:13:26.300 which brings in a demand for firearms from the U S because they got to defend it. Well,
00:13:30.060 drug dealing became so dangerous in the GTA and the rest of the country that some of these drug
00:13:34.380 dealers said, you know what, I'm going to pivot over. They found some stuff on Amazon. They took some,
00:13:38.700 you know, YouTube classes or whatever, and then they learned how to steal cars. Well, as the tech
00:13:43.420 guys were stealing cars off of driveways, using Bluetooth technology, the real hardened gang members
00:13:48.540 and the real violent people started to realize dealing drugs is a little dangerous for me. I'm going to pivot
00:13:53.580 over to what they're doing, but I don't care for the tech. I'm going to go straight to home invasion
00:13:56.860 style. And you saw the change. Initially it was pickup trucks, you know, certain midsize SUVs,
00:14:03.100 some cars getting stolen because that was where the technology was. Now you see it to high end luxury
00:14:07.820 vehicles. These are all targeted people and they get surveilled whether from a mall or a movie theater
00:14:13.340 back to their home. These violent guys will come in generally around four o'clock in the morning,
00:14:17.500 smash in the front door with either firearms or hammer, immediately go to the master bedroom,
00:14:22.140 hold up the family hostage, not only now still in the cars, but other valuables like purses,
00:14:26.780 watches, and then they leave and they just leave a wake of violence in the past and they're gone.
00:14:32.220 And this becomes the, you know, the biggest issue is we don't know who the next victim is going to
00:14:36.620 be. It could be you or I. And in this country, what I've seen is hilarious, but also very sad.
00:14:42.140 You know, when I'd put up, we'd had a home invasion in my neighborhood a couple of days ago and
00:14:45.900 the victim of it was an elderly male who was ransacked and then had his nose broken. And then
00:14:50.700 his adult son allegedly had tried to intervene and he was choked and these people had stolen
00:14:55.260 five Rolexes from him. And the comments said, well, you shouldn't have had five Rolexes.
00:14:59.420 This is the problem. You can never accept, um, not being able to live your life and say, well,
00:15:04.940 if I live my life and I do well in life, I'm going to be victimized by it. And that's just a
00:15:08.860 part of life. You can't accept it. This is on the pathway to countries like, you know, old Venezuela,
00:15:15.500 certain parts of Mexico, certain parts of South America, where you are truly, uh, targeted because
00:15:20.620 of your success and wealth resulting in sometimes child abductions. That is kind of how this thing
00:15:25.500 evolves. It's very predictable, but the lack of attention from our government is, is that is
00:15:31.020 probably the most frustrating thing. If they just paid attention to this when it was starting to grow
00:15:35.260 and from every expert being chiefs of police and police unions saying, we have a huge problem here.
00:15:40.220 Years ago, we wouldn't be in this position, but even to this day, is anybody talking about it?
00:15:45.180 No, I honestly felt like it was, it should have been one of the major issues of the federal election.
00:15:50.700 From the conversations that I have with people I talk to, I hear about this every single day
00:15:54.460 from moms and from women in the GTA. And yet I feel like the media just hardly even wanted to talk
00:15:59.660 about it, barely touched it as an issue. And I want to use this to pivot because the thing that they
00:16:04.300 do care about apparently is people who have traditional values. This is according to the
00:16:09.340 RCMP and the CBC. So let me just, uh, tee this story up. Uh, we learned yesterday that the RCMP
00:16:15.980 have charged military members for allegedly plotting to form a militia and seize land. This is out of
00:16:22.060 Quebec. Um, three men face terrorism related charges. Um, the RCMP have charged four men,
00:16:28.620 including two active members of Canadian armed forces with being part of an extremist plot that event,
00:16:33.260 that allegedly involved creating an anti-government militia with a massive trove of weapons.
00:16:37.820 The news released Tuesday morning, Mountie said that the group was involved in allegedly
00:16:41.660 ideologically motivated, uh, violent plot, um, to forcibly take land in, uh, in and around Quebec
00:16:48.940 city. So look, I don't know anything about this group. I don't endorse them in any way. I condemn
00:16:54.540 whatever they were doing. I don't see much evidence that they were right wing other than just the fact
00:16:59.180 that they were part, there are two of them that were active members of Canadian armed forces, which I don't
00:17:02.620 know how that makes you right wing. It just means that you served your country, but apparently they
00:17:06.700 were nationalists, whatever that means. Um, so I want to move this to a CBC interview that took place.
00:17:13.260 So according to that interview, the CBC host RT pole was interviewing staff Sergeant Camille Havel,
00:17:21.900 and this was going viral online because it is just so insane. Um, so I'm going to play the clips. You can
00:17:26.860 hear her in her own words, describing what it means to be a violent right wing extremist. Let's play that
00:17:33.260 clip. Radicalization in general, quite often will show by people isolating themselves and, uh, changing
00:17:41.500 their behavior, like changing, um, what they're saying on a subject, like becoming more extremist,
00:17:47.820 like, and, um, if someone, you know, was very, um, uh, believed in equal gender rights, but all of a
00:17:56.060 sudden are leaning towards like traditional values. And that might be a sign that, uh, they're becoming
00:18:03.260 more extremist. So if you're leaning more towards traditional values, if you used to believe in
00:18:08.780 gender equality, so you used to believe the left wing propaganda that they brainwash with you at school,
00:18:13.180 that men and women are exactly the same, there's no difference. And then, you know, you get a little
00:18:16.620 older and you might have some traditional values. Maybe you want to get married and have some kids.
00:18:20.460 Um, that means according to this person, the staff Sergeant in the RCPS spokesperson,
00:18:25.820 I mean, she doesn't sound very, uh, forceful in her comments. She seems like a little confused
00:18:30.780 by even what she's saying, but she's clearly reading from some kind of a handbook. And this
00:18:34.460 is what the CBC platforms, this is what our national broadcaster is, is putting into the ears and the
00:18:39.740 minds of the captured class of Canadians that sit at home and watch the CBC lead you to believe that
00:18:46.060 if you hold traditional values, Ron, you could be an extremist. You could be a terrorist. Uh, what do you
00:18:52.060 make of all this? Yeah. You know, I looked into this and this started in 2023 when initially RCMP
00:18:57.020 had some sort of information of this group starting to band together. And then they were pretty active
00:19:00.380 on social media to recruit people for the movement. So, you know, they outed themselves and they had
00:19:04.460 been known about it. And I'm happy that these people were arrested to tell you the truth because
00:19:07.500 of the cache of weapons and their intent. Nobody can ever condone that. But what concerns me the most
00:19:12.220 about this is the actual interview, uh, and, and the talking points, because generally speaking,
00:19:17.020 when you're a police officer, there's an art to communication, especially on major arrests
00:19:21.260 and the police service is going to put somebody who can be articulate and hit the points on this
00:19:26.140 point here. And in there, she makes a very specific reference to family values being Western values,
00:19:31.100 being the pivot point to extremism. Now that would have come from a bullet point and that would have
00:19:36.060 become from a talking point. And oftentimes those of us in a relationship will appreciate this.
00:19:40.620 You know, it's not what you said, it's how you said it. In this particular case,
00:19:44.460 it's not how you said it. It's what you said. We know for a fact, this is not even debatable,
00:19:49.500 that a healthy family is the strongest mitigator of a multitude of risk factors to develop a healthy
00:19:54.460 lifestyle, both in some lenses of not being a criminal, not being a victim of a crime and
00:19:59.260 generally living a healthy life. And what we see here is we see our national police force utilizing
00:20:04.380 the most basic concept of every religious group, that a strong family is a strong community. And that's
00:20:09.260 what's good for all of us. And this is passed down through thousands of years of different
00:20:13.180 cultures into us. And now we're being told by our national police force that any pivot back to
00:20:18.140 that, to revalue family values as we know it here in Western society is actually moving towards an
00:20:24.300 extremism. And when I looked at the extremism that they're referencing, they represent right-wing
00:20:28.380 extremism. I've never seen, and I looked for really much about any mention of other extremisms like
00:20:35.260 left-wing extremism. Why is it always pivoting this way to the right way? And since when has the
00:20:41.180 thousands of years of historic values that we all carry, now move to any other pivot?
00:20:46.460 I'd like to see the science and the evidence to say that we should be going the other direction,
00:20:50.460 because I'll tell you what, it doesn't exist. And for those that have the length of time,
00:20:54.140 10, 15 years where studies are done, I can tell you that they say that these are not healthy avenues
00:20:58.060 or paths. This is a dangerous precedence to set. And it's really disappointing to see another police
00:21:03.100 officer and a police organization represent this so publicly.
00:21:06.300 Well, let alone the state broadcaster putting this out there and not pushing back in any way.
00:21:11.580 Like the idea that, hey, if you have traditional values, you might be a right-wing or you might be
00:21:15.260 an extremist and you might be on your way to becoming a terrorist. I mean, what does it say to
00:21:19.100 all the Canadians out there watching saying, wait a minute, is there something wrong with traditional
00:21:22.860 values? Is that what our state broadcaster and our RCMP are trying to communicate to us? I mean,
00:21:27.660 it just seems completely counter to like a healthy, happy society. And so just to put it all in
00:21:32.860 perspective here, you know, you have rampant crime in Toronto. You have someone shooting someone else
00:21:37.980 at a school in self-defense injury saying, well, yeah, I mean, Toronto is kind of like a rock now.
00:21:42.460 And then here you have the state broadcaster and the police saying, you know, the real problem
00:21:46.860 are those moms and dads who want to have kids.
00:21:49.900 No, this is, this is ludicrous. You know, my kids, I have, obviously I have kids like most people,
00:21:55.260 I would say most people I do have kids. Look, our family is number one. And for those of us who
00:21:59.740 value family, I could say collectively, you know, my experience generally, not absolutely, but generally,
00:22:04.860 those of us who really value family have either had the luxury of coming from a good family
00:22:09.180 or understand the impact of not having a solid family. And we want to be the ones to break that cycle
00:22:13.980 for our kids. So we do everything we can to create this healthy, happy family environment.
00:22:17.980 And one of the best investigators I ever worked with, and this guy was leaps and bounds, one of the
00:22:22.140 best. He had said to me, you know, you can't look at a single incident. You have to look at the
00:22:26.220 constellation of facts and constellation of incidents. And when we look at this, when I look
00:22:30.780 at the constellation over the last 10 years, in my mind, and in my personal opinion, there is an
00:22:35.500 absolute attack on family values, on meaningful education, on healthy peer groups, on strong
00:22:40.940 individuals, and lastly, really strong communities. It's as we've been severed into these pockets of
00:22:45.660 individualization that just break us apart, does nothing to pull us together. You know,
00:22:51.420 when you live on your street and you know all your neighbors, it's a great environment,
00:22:53.900 it's a great neighborhood. When you don't know anybody, you're always living in a state of anxiety
00:22:57.260 and a state of divide. And I think it becomes much easier to push a narrative or to control
00:23:01.500 a movement when you don't have people talking to each other.
00:23:03.820 Well, I completely agree with that. Ron, thank you so much for joining us. And folks,
00:23:08.220 check out the Crime Report with Ron Chinsner. It is on Juno News, airing every Friday. We're
00:23:13.500 really excited about this show. And Ron, thank you so much for your time today. Thanks for your
00:23:18.060 insights. And thank you for joining the team here at Juno News.
00:23:20.860 Absolutely. Thanks for the invite. And I'm very happy to be part of the team. Thank you guys.
00:23:24.060 All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm
00:23:28.380 Candice Malcolm's The Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.