Juno News - October 28, 2023


Toronto police have ‘let down’ the Jewish community (ft. Ari Goldkind)


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

167.47037

Word Count

3,334

Sentence Count

145

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you're tuned in to the andrew lawton show
00:00:05.920 let's for example take a look at this video footage from the weekend at a popular toronto
00:00:15.460 restaurant at which i've never been but i've heard very good things about cafe landver
00:00:19.820 now you may
00:00:49.800 They wonder why they're targeting this restaurant.
00:00:53.340 Now, I've never been there.
00:00:54.440 Supposedly, they have very good schnitzel.
00:00:56.580 To my knowledge, the restaurant has never been explicitly political.
00:01:00.380 I have not seen any statements or proclamations of being Zionist,
00:01:04.860 but the restaurant is Jewish-owned.
00:01:07.420 And it seems to me, from my perspective,
00:01:09.980 the only reason it was targeted by these activists
00:01:12.780 is because a Jew dared own a restaurant in downtown Toronto,
00:01:17.560 and that is worthy of calls for boycott.
00:01:20.860 You often hear university campuses very explicitly and openly
00:01:25.380 vow to support the boycott, divestment, sanctions movement,
00:01:29.040 which is to say we should boycott Israeli products.
00:01:31.900 Sometimes they will go so far as to say Israeli people,
00:01:34.280 Israeli academics, and divest from any Israeli company
00:01:37.740 and sanction Israeli products and all of that.
00:01:40.480 And it's not actually Israel thereafter.
00:01:43.840 It's Jews.
00:01:44.620 And they can cloak it all they want in the pretend,
00:01:47.800 oh, I'm just an anti-Zionist,
00:01:49.360 or oh, I'm just making criticisms of Israel.
00:01:51.620 But a lot of these people hate the Jewish people
00:01:53.720 and are very proud of that fact.
00:01:56.960 Now, I've always said, despite my criticisms of this,
00:01:59.600 I am a supporter of freedom of speech.
00:02:02.020 I believe you have the right to express very heinous views.
00:02:04.800 I take a very broad view of free speech.
00:02:07.360 I will also say that some of the rhetoric we've seen
00:02:10.380 in some of these protests in the last couple of weeks
00:02:12.440 very much crosses that threshold of threatening violence
00:02:17.020 or supporting terrorism,
00:02:18.400 which is where we get into trickier territory.
00:02:21.220 Now, that being said, as with that letter signed by the Ryerson,
00:02:25.480 or no, you can't say Ryerson anymore,
00:02:26.860 the TMU law students,
00:02:28.540 it's probably more useful to know who these people are,
00:02:31.120 which you don't get if you go the censorship route.
00:02:33.520 But I saw an interesting tweet from Ari Goldkind,
00:02:36.680 who's a lawyer in, you may know,
00:02:38.560 he's quite a superstar on the media circuit,
00:02:41.040 and I've had the great privilege of being on his show
00:02:43.660 on a couple of occasions.
00:02:45.580 But Ari Goldkind shared that video
00:02:48.560 from the protests outside Lanver,
00:02:51.040 and he said,
00:02:51.940 I'm a supporter of the police,
00:02:53.360 which in my line of work isn't popular,
00:02:55.660 but I don't think I've ever felt more let down by the police
00:02:59.080 than in the last two weeks,
00:03:00.760 turning a complete blind eye,
00:03:02.640 which they'd never do,
00:03:03.800 with a proud boy,
00:03:04.800 a non-social distancer,
00:03:06.720 or, God forbid, a trucker.
00:03:09.420 Ari Goldkind joins me now.
00:03:11.620 Ari, it's good to talk to you.
00:03:12.720 Thanks for coming on today.
00:03:14.180 Great to be with you, Andrew.
00:03:15.980 So let's first off,
00:03:17.500 let me get your take on that law letter,
00:03:19.800 because here we have students that are,
00:03:21.860 in a couple of weeks,
00:03:22.500 going to be doing interviews with,
00:03:23.940 you know,
00:03:24.420 some of these big Bay Street law firms.
00:03:26.180 And I know we can talk about
00:03:27.380 how institutions have gone so woke,
00:03:29.320 but I can't imagine
00:03:30.660 there are a lot of law firms in Toronto
00:03:32.360 that would want anything to do
00:03:33.560 with people saying that
00:03:34.760 this call to violence should be welcomed.
00:03:38.080 Well, Andrew,
00:03:39.020 as much as I tend to agree
00:03:40.320 with a lot of the things you say,
00:03:41.820 I'm going to disagree on that one.
00:03:43.540 They will be hired within a nanosecond.
00:03:47.080 This is how Toronto now works.
00:03:49.920 All one has to do is look at demographics
00:03:52.140 in Toronto to understand
00:03:55.180 the imbalance here
00:03:56.880 between people with my last name
00:03:58.840 and people who think
00:04:00.460 people with my last name
00:04:01.740 should be wiped off the face of the earth.
00:04:04.080 The fact that this is now going to be
00:04:06.240 the future lawyers of this country.
00:04:09.440 Forget even the anti-Jew part of it.
00:04:12.100 And no, I don't accept
00:04:13.100 that the anti-Israel part
00:04:14.680 means that they're not anti-Jew.
00:04:16.240 It's just a euphemism
00:04:18.160 that they use as a get out of jail free card.
00:04:20.880 But leaving aside the anti-Jewish hate,
00:04:23.440 because I don't actually love
00:04:24.240 the word anti-Semitic.
00:04:25.380 It's not specific enough.
00:04:27.940 These are also people
00:04:29.060 that are going to be in charge
00:04:30.360 of free speech,
00:04:32.000 free expression,
00:04:33.400 which we know will not only be free,
00:04:35.400 it'll be expensive,
00:04:36.880 but it could cost you your life,
00:04:38.920 your business,
00:04:39.760 your boycott.
00:04:40.820 And the worst part about it, Andrew,
00:04:43.300 is that nobody's doing a thing about it
00:04:46.100 because the political people
00:04:47.660 that could do something about it
00:04:49.420 or the people at the top
00:04:51.200 of the corporate food chain,
00:04:52.680 which often have more power
00:04:54.180 than even politicians,
00:04:55.240 they understand the demographics
00:04:57.740 in this country.
00:04:59.400 The members of parliament
00:05:00.480 understand the ridings.
00:05:02.820 And you don't need votes
00:05:04.280 of people with last names
00:05:05.640 of Goldkind or Schwartz
00:05:07.600 or Silverstein
00:05:09.140 to get elected anymore.
00:05:10.840 They know the demographics.
00:05:12.560 They know the birth rates.
00:05:13.980 They know our country's
00:05:15.300 completely open border.
00:05:17.060 So when you hear Trudeau
00:05:18.500 and his sycophant saying,
00:05:20.560 we don't like anti-Semitism,
00:05:22.260 but on the same day
00:05:24.120 they welcome hundreds
00:05:25.200 if not thousands
00:05:26.160 on a daily basis
00:05:27.740 of anti-Semites
00:05:29.900 to this country.
00:05:31.300 All you're now seeing
00:05:32.340 at Cafe Landwehr
00:05:33.500 and other places
00:05:34.440 is people who thought
00:05:36.100 they needed to be
00:05:36.940 a little bit quieter.
00:05:38.520 Now they're emboldened.
00:05:40.200 They're doing it
00:05:41.020 in a blazing way.
00:05:42.760 And the part that concerns me,
00:05:44.660 given the double standards
00:05:45.880 of the last few years, Andrew,
00:05:48.000 is that they know
00:05:49.240 they can do it.
00:05:50.280 They're untouchable.
00:05:51.440 And this country
00:05:52.700 that I thought
00:05:53.360 would be safe
00:05:54.220 for people with my last name
00:05:56.320 is now clearly,
00:05:58.760 clearly becoming unsafe.
00:06:01.260 And for those who say,
00:06:02.300 oh, Ari,
00:06:02.800 you're clutching your pearls,
00:06:04.220 which you're not actually wearing,
00:06:06.280 I can tell you
00:06:07.280 that in the late 1920s
00:06:08.940 and early 1930s,
00:06:10.680 there was no greater place
00:06:12.500 on the earth
00:06:13.040 for Jews to live
00:06:13.980 than Germany and Poland.
00:06:17.460 It's a heart-wrenching tale,
00:06:20.620 you tell.
00:06:21.160 And what I hear
00:06:21.720 from so many
00:06:22.320 of my Jewish friends,
00:06:23.440 just over the weekend,
00:06:24.580 there was the president
00:06:25.420 of a Detroit synagogue
00:06:26.440 who was stabbed
00:06:27.500 in her home.
00:06:28.680 I mean, this is,
00:06:29.520 I fear,
00:06:30.100 a story that's going
00:06:30.880 to be repeating
00:06:31.960 itself elsewhere.
00:06:32.940 Cafe Landwehr,
00:06:34.100 it's only crime,
00:06:35.040 insofar as I've been able
00:06:36.020 to see it,
00:06:37.460 is that they happen
00:06:38.440 to be Jewish
00:06:39.560 in Toronto right now,
00:06:40.840 which is enough
00:06:41.660 to attract this attention.
00:06:43.520 And you are right
00:06:44.980 when you make that reference
00:06:46.300 in your tweet
00:06:46.980 to truckers.
00:06:48.200 When there were
00:06:48.840 a group of people
00:06:49.480 that were planning
00:06:50.140 when the convoy
00:06:50.860 was in Ottawa
00:06:51.320 to drive around Toronto
00:06:52.400 and honk their horns
00:06:53.100 for a bit,
00:06:53.820 police were giving
00:06:54.440 press conferences,
00:06:55.420 they were talking
00:06:55.960 about all these
00:06:56.500 preventative measures,
00:06:57.860 and even if they
00:06:58.420 didn't charge,
00:06:59.000 they were saying
00:06:59.400 we need to be out
00:07:00.060 in full force
00:07:00.680 to say we aren't
00:07:01.400 going to stand for this.
00:07:02.540 Where is that
00:07:03.500 on this scourge
00:07:04.480 of anti-Semitism?
00:07:05.440 It's non-existent.
00:07:06.580 So let me bring in
00:07:07.780 a little bit
00:07:08.280 of the law here.
00:07:09.440 I mean,
00:07:09.600 I'm not dressed like this
00:07:10.500 to see you, Andrew.
00:07:11.380 I am in the middle
00:07:11.920 of my work day
00:07:13.060 and always at the light.
00:07:13.800 I thought I was special.
00:07:15.320 Well, you are,
00:07:15.940 but here's where
00:07:16.840 I'm going to go back
00:07:17.540 to agreeing
00:07:18.160 with something
00:07:19.000 that you said
00:07:19.660 at the beginning.
00:07:21.100 You and I
00:07:22.020 are both
00:07:22.560 almost free speech
00:07:23.920 absolutists, okay?
00:07:25.640 And I very much
00:07:26.940 am a free speech
00:07:27.840 absolutist.
00:07:29.500 Here's the point.
00:07:32.460 You now have
00:07:33.800 a country
00:07:34.480 that says
00:07:35.060 there are
00:07:35.600 hate speech
00:07:36.380 laws
00:07:37.220 that says
00:07:38.660 public incitement
00:07:40.180 to hatred
00:07:40.700 is unacceptable.
00:07:42.980 But it seems
00:07:43.660 like there's
00:07:44.120 only one group
00:07:44.920 of people
00:07:45.460 that you can
00:07:46.280 do it with.
00:07:47.180 Only one group
00:07:48.380 of people.
00:07:49.060 And where I say
00:07:50.180 is if police
00:07:51.860 were not going
00:07:52.720 around and
00:07:53.480 arresting people
00:07:54.340 for not socially
00:07:55.360 distancing
00:07:55.980 or for demonstrating
00:07:58.240 in Ottawa
00:07:58.960 or for saying
00:07:59.920 they don't want
00:08:00.620 a vaccine mandate
00:08:01.900 or not standing
00:08:03.220 six feet behind
00:08:04.400 somebody at Costco
00:08:05.580 or Walmart,
00:08:06.700 I would be the
00:08:07.560 first to say,
00:08:08.400 look, police
00:08:09.340 really shouldn't
00:08:10.080 get in here.
00:08:10.700 This is odious
00:08:11.460 and disgusting.
00:08:13.120 But by what
00:08:13.760 double standard
00:08:14.740 can somebody
00:08:15.480 be arrested?
00:08:16.280 I mean literally
00:08:16.920 arrested for taking
00:08:18.080 their kid
00:08:18.560 rollerblading
00:08:19.360 in COVID
00:08:19.940 or complaining
00:08:21.240 about Pfizer.
00:08:22.740 But these people
00:08:23.800 publicly inciting
00:08:25.160 hatred and genocide,
00:08:26.720 which is what
00:08:27.200 they're doing,
00:08:28.540 of the Jewish
00:08:29.240 people means
00:08:30.020 no police response
00:08:31.260 should be forthcoming.
00:08:32.600 And Andrew,
00:08:33.140 to go inside
00:08:33.940 baseball,
00:08:34.940 I can tell you
00:08:35.860 very specifically,
00:08:36.960 a friend of mine
00:08:37.680 was assaulted
00:08:38.340 at Young and Bloor
00:08:39.120 the other night
00:08:39.820 right on video,
00:08:41.720 right at one
00:08:42.280 of these massive
00:08:43.120 demonstrations.
00:08:44.540 And the police
00:08:45.220 made very clear
00:08:46.320 to him,
00:08:46.980 as a Jew,
00:08:48.060 they're not there
00:08:48.820 to arrest,
00:08:49.660 they don't want
00:08:50.240 to make things
00:08:50.920 any more heated,
00:08:52.360 they're just there
00:08:53.620 to observe.
00:08:54.780 This is a Toronto
00:08:55.720 police service
00:08:56.560 which I've lost
00:08:57.700 a lot of love
00:08:59.340 in my business.
00:09:00.100 I'm a criminal
00:09:00.620 defense lawyer
00:09:01.340 that's supposed
00:09:01.740 to be very anti-police
00:09:03.200 and not liking police.
00:09:04.660 I'm very outspokenly
00:09:07.220 pro-police.
00:09:08.520 The fact that
00:09:09.180 the police brass,
00:09:11.060 I don't put this
00:09:12.100 on the beat cop,
00:09:13.120 Andrew,
00:09:13.920 the fact that
00:09:14.740 the police brass
00:09:15.860 understand the new
00:09:17.240 demographics of the
00:09:18.440 greater Toronto area
00:09:19.840 and it certainly
00:09:21.140 isn't Jewy
00:09:22.080 and the fact that
00:09:23.560 they're allowing
00:09:24.320 this to take place
00:09:25.540 is a very,
00:09:26.820 very scary thing.
00:09:28.600 And if you take
00:09:29.240 the view that
00:09:29.840 they should be
00:09:30.400 hands-off,
00:09:31.340 which is a legitimate,
00:09:32.460 debatable view,
00:09:33.940 it's a very
00:09:34.520 worthy debate,
00:09:36.120 then ask yourself,
00:09:37.740 should dad have
00:09:38.640 been arrested
00:09:39.300 for taking kid
00:09:40.360 rollerblading
00:09:41.220 two years ago
00:09:42.140 and trust me,
00:09:43.480 I did those cases.
00:09:45.320 So if the police
00:09:46.160 are concerned
00:09:46.820 with Tamara Leach
00:09:47.800 on a day,
00:09:48.680 by the way,
00:09:49.140 where her stupid
00:09:49.880 bail charge
00:09:50.620 was just withdrawn
00:09:51.960 a half an hour
00:09:52.760 before you and I
00:09:53.720 spoke,
00:09:54.620 she did 49
00:09:55.540 or 59 nights
00:09:56.880 in jail,
00:09:57.440 the charge
00:09:57.860 was withdrawn.
00:09:58.860 These people
00:09:59.640 are advocating
00:10:00.720 on Yonge Street
00:10:01.780 in Toronto
00:10:02.560 that people
00:10:03.640 like me
00:10:04.240 should be killed
00:10:05.060 and put into
00:10:05.720 the sea.
00:10:06.580 That's what
00:10:07.100 they're saying.
00:10:07.780 If you don't
00:10:08.180 believe me,
00:10:09.020 hire a translator.
00:10:10.440 And the fact
00:10:10.980 that they're all
00:10:11.480 going to be
00:10:11.820 future lawyers
00:10:12.700 and this is
00:10:13.680 the Ryer Sinners
00:10:14.780 or TMU
00:10:15.720 students are
00:10:16.860 putting in,
00:10:18.060 lawyers occupy
00:10:19.000 as much as I
00:10:19.760 can make a hundred
00:10:20.420 jokes,
00:10:21.020 Andrew,
00:10:21.540 a pretty lofty
00:10:22.740 place at certain
00:10:23.620 levels in our
00:10:24.300 culture.
00:10:24.900 The idea that
00:10:26.000 not only they're
00:10:26.680 signing this
00:10:27.400 and thinking it,
00:10:28.820 but they're saying
00:10:30.300 it proudly
00:10:30.960 unlike those
00:10:32.460 cowardly Harvard
00:10:33.400 pieces of garbage
00:10:34.820 who didn't have
00:10:35.400 the guts to sign
00:10:36.280 it,
00:10:36.760 these people
00:10:37.340 are putting
00:10:37.780 their names
00:10:38.500 to it and
00:10:39.220 it won't cost
00:10:39.960 them a single
00:10:40.480 thing.
00:10:41.560 Well,
00:10:41.660 and therein lies
00:10:42.540 I think the
00:10:43.140 crucial part
00:10:43.820 of this,
00:10:44.300 Ari,
00:10:44.460 which is that
00:10:45.020 there has been
00:10:46.180 in the last
00:10:46.740 couple of weeks,
00:10:47.500 and I'd say
00:10:48.020 it's been
00:10:48.240 increasing over
00:10:48.860 a number of
00:10:49.300 years,
00:10:49.620 the normalization
00:10:50.600 of this.
00:10:51.180 I mean,
00:10:51.320 it used to be
00:10:52.080 people had the
00:10:53.320 wherewithal to
00:10:54.100 conceal certain
00:10:54.980 beliefs like this
00:10:55.920 and maybe you'd
00:10:56.480 see these pockets
00:10:57.180 on university
00:10:57.880 campuses,
00:10:58.400 but now when
00:10:59.480 someone says
00:11:00.180 from the river
00:11:00.760 to the sea,
00:11:01.600 which is,
00:11:02.020 you know,
00:11:02.320 calling,
00:11:02.700 I did the
00:11:03.000 whole map
00:11:03.780 analysis last
00:11:04.580 week on this
00:11:05.080 show,
00:11:05.380 it's,
00:11:05.780 it,
00:11:05.920 they're from
00:11:06.480 the river
00:11:06.720 to the sea
00:11:07.040 is the entirety
00:11:07.620 of Israel.
00:11:08.420 It's not only the
00:11:08.520 property,
00:11:08.740 Andrew,
00:11:09.000 people have
00:11:09.420 more property
00:11:10.020 in Alberta.
00:11:11.200 Yeah,
00:11:11.500 exactly.
00:11:12.340 So when they
00:11:12.940 say that,
00:11:13.620 it's,
00:11:14.060 you know,
00:11:14.740 I think an
00:11:15.080 incredibly important
00:11:16.000 point that they're
00:11:16.640 proud of that,
00:11:17.500 you know,
00:11:17.640 they're proud of
00:11:18.280 saying all forms
00:11:19.560 of resistance.
00:11:20.140 Now,
00:11:20.700 you have to
00:11:21.380 have a level
00:11:22.460 of temerity
00:11:23.340 and brazenness
00:11:24.140 to defend
00:11:24.940 unequivocally
00:11:25.820 all forms
00:11:27.200 of resistance
00:11:27.860 when babies
00:11:29.100 were beheaded.
00:11:32.220 Like,
00:11:33.260 how on earth
00:11:34.100 did this
00:11:35.180 become so
00:11:36.200 acceptable?
00:11:38.600 Oh,
00:11:39.260 I believe we've
00:11:39.760 lost Ari there.
00:11:41.160 We will hopefully
00:11:42.160 get him back
00:11:42.880 in a couple of
00:11:43.500 moments,
00:11:43.840 but I think
00:11:44.240 the point stands.
00:11:45.100 When they say
00:11:45.940 all forms
00:11:47.380 of resistance,
00:11:49.080 they are saying
00:11:49.960 that any
00:11:50.580 single news
00:11:51.940 story we have
00:11:52.880 heard of,
00:11:53.600 atrocities
00:11:54.340 happening
00:11:54.860 was in their
00:11:56.340 minds
00:11:56.800 completely
00:11:57.620 A-OK.
00:11:59.680 That's the
00:12:00.180 position they've
00:12:00.800 taken.
00:12:01.540 Yesterday,
00:12:02.200 I don't know
00:12:02.480 if you saw
00:12:02.860 this,
00:12:03.240 and I
00:12:03.760 haven't done
00:12:04.680 it myself
00:12:05.200 because I
00:12:05.960 was traveling
00:12:06.820 yesterday,
00:12:07.400 and to be
00:12:07.600 honest,
00:12:07.760 I don't
00:12:07.940 know if
00:12:08.140 I want
00:12:08.460 to,
00:12:09.040 but the
00:12:10.360 Israeli
00:12:10.720 government
00:12:11.320 released
00:12:12.320 to journalists
00:12:13.280 hours and
00:12:14.460 hours of
00:12:15.280 footage and
00:12:16.220 information it
00:12:17.320 collected from
00:12:18.260 Hamas officials
00:12:19.540 and operatives
00:12:20.840 that were
00:12:21.080 apparently wearing
00:12:21.620 body cams.
00:12:22.400 They shared
00:12:23.340 this,
00:12:23.620 and they said
00:12:24.000 to all these
00:12:24.380 people,
00:12:24.900 you don't
00:12:25.360 believe what
00:12:26.120 they were
00:12:26.460 doing here.
00:12:27.320 Here's the
00:12:27.800 evidence of
00:12:28.300 what they were
00:12:28.700 doing.
00:12:29.140 And you're
00:12:29.540 still going to
00:12:29.940 get deniers
00:12:30.560 and all of
00:12:31.020 that.
00:12:31.300 But we've
00:12:32.000 got Ari
00:12:32.380 back.
00:12:32.780 Ari,
00:12:33.020 I don't
00:12:33.220 know where
00:12:33.520 we lost
00:12:33.980 you there,
00:12:34.300 but basically
00:12:34.800 my question
00:12:35.620 was,
00:12:36.340 when you say
00:12:37.000 all forms of
00:12:37.680 resistance are
00:12:38.320 fine,
00:12:39.100 knowing what
00:12:39.740 we know about
00:12:40.280 what Hamas
00:12:40.920 has done,
00:12:41.960 you're defending
00:12:42.740 that.
00:12:43.120 And how did
00:12:43.660 that become
00:12:44.320 acceptable?
00:12:45.120 How did
00:12:45.420 that become
00:12:45.860 a position
00:12:46.360 that you
00:12:46.780 could,
00:12:47.040 in mainstream
00:12:47.480 society,
00:12:48.680 express?
00:12:49.640 Well,
00:12:50.000 look,
00:12:50.320 you start,
00:12:50.800 Andrew,
00:12:51.240 and I
00:12:51.440 think
00:12:51.600 somebody's
00:12:52.120 not liking
00:12:52.640 what I'm
00:12:53.000 saying,
00:12:53.360 so they
00:12:53.620 cut the
00:12:53.940 internet feed,
00:12:54.620 even though
00:12:54.880 it looks
00:12:55.160 four bars.
00:12:55.840 But in
00:12:56.040 any event,
00:12:56.880 you look
00:12:57.280 at 9-11,
00:12:58.400 okay?
00:12:59.200 The first,
00:12:59.820 and I think
00:13:00.340 all roads,
00:13:01.020 I always
00:13:01.580 believe this,
00:13:02.300 Andrew,
00:13:02.540 I'm a person
00:13:03.220 fascinated by
00:13:04.160 9-11.
00:13:04.800 I'm 49
00:13:05.340 years old,
00:13:06.260 it's imprinted
00:13:07.200 in my DNA,
00:13:08.320 I have walked
00:13:09.260 the tracks
00:13:09.840 at Auschwitz.
00:13:11.000 When you
00:13:11.500 walk the
00:13:12.060 tracks at
00:13:12.660 Auschwitz,
00:13:13.260 you feel
00:13:13.920 things differently
00:13:14.840 than an 18-year-old
00:13:16.440 who never saw
00:13:17.180 9-11,
00:13:18.420 and who has no
00:13:19.480 idea what the
00:13:20.160 Holocaust is.
00:13:21.640 What they're
00:13:22.880 saying right
00:13:23.560 now,
00:13:23.860 remember after
00:13:24.600 9-11,
00:13:25.360 the first
00:13:25.820 thing Bush
00:13:26.340 said is,
00:13:27.540 don't be
00:13:27.920 mad at the
00:13:28.640 philosophy or
00:13:30.200 political religious
00:13:31.340 ideology that
00:13:32.400 did this to
00:13:33.040 America.
00:13:33.760 It wasn't just
00:13:34.280 done to the
00:13:34.780 buildings,
00:13:35.340 it was done
00:13:36.180 to America.
00:13:36.800 That's the
00:13:37.140 first thing
00:13:37.700 Bush did.
00:13:38.760 So what did
00:13:39.320 every Western
00:13:40.020 world country
00:13:40.840 do,
00:13:41.240 Andrew?
00:13:41.460 They did the
00:13:41.940 opposite of
00:13:42.800 what they
00:13:43.140 should do.
00:13:43.920 Now let's
00:13:44.500 bring this
00:13:44.880 back home to
00:13:45.600 Canada.
00:13:46.680 Look at that
00:13:47.320 bill,
00:13:47.720 whether it's
00:13:48.100 M-13,
00:13:48.920 or I can't
00:13:49.480 remember what
00:13:49.940 it is,
00:13:50.200 I don't
00:13:50.380 remember.
00:13:51.220 You're not
00:13:51.820 allowed to
00:13:52.500 say anything
00:13:53.660 about the
00:13:55.260 fastest growing
00:13:56.300 religion in
00:13:57.840 Canada.
00:13:58.400 You're not
00:13:58.860 allowed to
00:13:59.340 say anything.
00:13:59.840 If you're
00:14:00.240 saying anything
00:14:00.880 about it,
00:14:01.620 you're told
00:14:02.500 that you're
00:14:02.920 phobic,
00:14:03.840 or that you
00:14:04.300 have a
00:14:04.720 certain phobia.
00:14:06.040 But they
00:14:06.780 can say
00:14:07.440 anything they
00:14:08.520 want about
00:14:09.300 Jews,
00:14:09.880 including from
00:14:10.580 the river to
00:14:11.080 the sea,
00:14:11.440 and they're
00:14:11.620 more specific
00:14:12.280 than that.
00:14:12.780 They call
00:14:13.240 for actual
00:14:14.520 murder,
00:14:15.640 genocide,
00:14:16.340 and death.
00:14:16.680 nobody says
00:14:18.420 a word
00:14:18.740 about it.
00:14:19.200 And here's
00:14:19.700 the kicker.
00:14:21.860 If somebody
00:14:22.800 like me
00:14:23.380 says what
00:14:23.960 I'm saying,
00:14:25.500 and Justin
00:14:26.180 Trudeau
00:14:26.580 hears me
00:14:27.140 today,
00:14:27.620 he'll come
00:14:28.140 out and
00:14:28.540 say,
00:14:28.820 I'm making
00:14:29.180 this up,
00:14:29.620 but it's
00:14:29.820 exactly what
00:14:30.540 he'd say.
00:14:31.620 Well,
00:14:32.140 I've heard
00:14:32.560 Ari Goldkind,
00:14:34.100 and anti-Semitism
00:14:35.500 has no place
00:14:36.540 in our country,
00:14:37.620 and Islamophobia
00:14:39.180 is one of the
00:14:39.960 most serious
00:14:40.600 problems in
00:14:41.380 our country.
00:14:42.580 They can
00:14:42.980 never,
00:14:44.040 ever understand
00:14:44.980 or say
00:14:45.760 out loud,
00:14:46.560 where does
00:14:47.180 the new
00:14:47.560 anti-Semitism
00:14:48.300 come from?
00:14:49.260 Does it
00:14:49.600 come from
00:14:49.980 a proud
00:14:50.460 boy?
00:14:51.480 Does it
00:14:51.880 come from
00:14:52.360 MAGA?
00:14:53.320 Does it
00:14:53.840 come from
00:14:54.300 the Ku Klux
00:14:55.120 Klan?
00:14:55.900 This is not
00:14:56.780 a difficult
00:14:57.480 puzzle to
00:14:58.180 solve.
00:14:58.620 It's not
00:14:58.980 getting the
00:14:59.520 caramel in
00:15:00.260 the Cadbury
00:15:00.920 bar.
00:15:01.860 That's what
00:15:02.340 is so
00:15:02.760 pernicious
00:15:03.320 and sinister
00:15:04.280 about this,
00:15:05.300 is that you
00:15:05.960 can never
00:15:06.500 talk about
00:15:07.140 this issue
00:15:07.700 with one
00:15:08.120 of these
00:15:08.540 actually
00:15:09.660 grotesque
00:15:11.420 liberal
00:15:12.120 MPPs
00:15:12.960 or the
00:15:13.260 entire
00:15:13.680 disgusting
00:15:14.540 NDP
00:15:15.200 always
00:15:16.420 conflating
00:15:17.520 anti-Semitism
00:15:19.060 and Islamophobia
00:15:20.340 when they're
00:15:20.880 not to be
00:15:21.680 conflated,
00:15:22.540 and when
00:15:23.100 the numbers
00:15:23.800 and the
00:15:24.220 birth rates
00:15:24.800 in this
00:15:25.160 country
00:15:25.520 suggest that
00:15:26.300 if you're
00:15:26.620 Jewish,
00:15:27.540 Houston,
00:15:28.120 we have
00:15:28.460 a problem.
00:15:29.560 If you're
00:15:30.060 not,
00:15:30.840 you're in
00:15:31.300 control of
00:15:31.980 everything,
00:15:33.340 and now
00:15:33.900 they're in
00:15:34.340 control of
00:15:35.040 more than
00:15:35.720 you're even
00:15:36.080 allowed to
00:15:36.560 talk about,
00:15:37.380 which used
00:15:38.040 to be,
00:15:38.560 by the way,
00:15:39.460 the pernicious
00:15:40.340 stereotypical
00:15:41.600 Jewish myth
00:15:42.720 that Jews
00:15:44.140 were kind
00:15:44.700 of proud
00:15:45.240 of,
00:15:45.840 but we
00:15:46.200 were wanting
00:15:46.700 to make
00:15:47.160 art,
00:15:48.260 develop
00:15:48.660 vaccines,
00:15:50.080 do heart
00:15:50.860 surgery,
00:15:51.920 write piano
00:15:52.740 concertos,
00:15:54.060 advance the
00:15:54.980 law in a
00:15:55.560 good way
00:15:56.000 for the
00:15:56.360 underprivileged.
00:15:57.520 Now,
00:15:58.740 where are
00:15:59.420 things from
00:16:00.040 the group
00:16:00.440 that is
00:16:00.820 growing
00:16:01.220 exponentially?
00:16:02.700 It is to
00:16:03.300 push people
00:16:03.980 like me
00:16:04.460 into the
00:16:04.880 sea,
00:16:05.180 and people
00:16:05.520 keep saying,
00:16:06.260 Andrew,
00:16:06.580 and people
00:16:06.920 who don't
00:16:07.180 have my
00:16:07.560 last name
00:16:08.020 can't
00:16:08.320 understand this,
00:16:08.880 oh,
00:16:09.540 it'll never
00:16:10.000 get to
00:16:10.460 1929,
00:16:11.600 1933,
00:16:12.740 Kristallnach.
00:16:14.100 What do
00:16:14.620 you think
00:16:15.100 the next
00:16:15.600 step is
00:16:16.120 when they
00:16:16.500 go to
00:16:16.920 the Jewish
00:16:17.420 businesses?
00:16:18.440 Do you
00:16:18.940 think it's
00:16:19.380 to peacefully
00:16:19.960 protest?
00:16:20.740 They're
00:16:20.980 emboldened
00:16:21.680 and they're
00:16:22.100 emblazoned.
00:16:22.700 This country
00:16:23.340 is in
00:16:24.200 trouble,
00:16:24.920 and we
00:16:25.360 have been
00:16:25.740 completely,
00:16:27.080 completely
00:16:27.820 abandoned
00:16:28.840 by a
00:16:29.660 federal
00:16:30.000 government
00:16:30.540 that,
00:16:31.040 by the
00:16:31.320 way,
00:16:31.600 Andrew,
00:16:32.340 is obsessed
00:16:33.500 with minority
00:16:34.600 rights,
00:16:35.580 so long as
00:16:36.400 that minority
00:16:37.280 is the
00:16:37.940 majority
00:16:38.560 of their
00:16:39.560 voters.
00:16:40.980 Think that
00:16:41.620 through.
00:16:42.500 Just one
00:16:43.080 final question,
00:16:44.280 because you
00:16:44.600 mentioned M103,
00:16:45.900 which was the
00:16:46.400 anti-Islamophobia
00:16:47.360 motion,
00:16:48.040 and I was
00:16:49.080 very critical
00:16:49.760 of that
00:16:50.320 going back,
00:16:51.320 and people
00:16:51.720 can read
00:16:52.120 what I
00:16:52.600 wrote at
00:16:52.940 the time,
00:16:53.920 but a lot
00:16:55.020 of the
00:16:55.360 Jewish groups,
00:16:56.780 and by that
00:16:57.400 I mean the
00:16:58.020 official Jewish
00:16:58.880 groups that
00:16:59.420 proclaim to
00:16:59.960 speak for
00:17:00.340 Jewish people,
00:17:01.000 and don't
00:17:01.340 always,
00:17:02.060 proclaim,
00:17:03.060 don't get me
00:17:03.500 started on
00:17:03.920 here,
00:17:04.660 were standing
00:17:05.600 in lockstep
00:17:06.380 with a lot
00:17:06.980 of the Muslim
00:17:07.440 groups when
00:17:08.000 M103 was
00:17:08.700 coming up,
00:17:09.160 and I think
00:17:09.400 a lot of
00:17:09.760 them felt
00:17:10.160 they had
00:17:10.600 to,
00:17:10.900 that they
00:17:11.420 would be
00:17:11.940 hypocritical to
00:17:12.620 talk about
00:17:13.000 anti-Semitism
00:17:13.620 without condemning
00:17:14.880 Islamophobia,
00:17:15.860 but a lot of
00:17:16.360 them had egg on
00:17:17.260 their face the
00:17:17.780 last two weeks,
00:17:18.540 and they've been
00:17:18.900 wondering when
00:17:19.460 that reciprocation
00:17:20.400 is going to
00:17:20.820 come,
00:17:21.160 and it just
00:17:21.700 hasn't.
00:17:22.760 Some of the
00:17:23.440 Muslim groups
00:17:24.020 gave very
00:17:25.280 cursory
00:17:26.100 condemnations,
00:17:27.100 many didn't
00:17:27.580 even do that,
00:17:28.260 and most of
00:17:28.680 them have
00:17:29.060 actually come
00:17:29.960 out with
00:17:30.260 outright
00:17:30.560 endorsements
00:17:31.180 of what
00:17:32.080 Hamas has
00:17:32.660 done in
00:17:33.480 the week
00:17:33.960 since,
00:17:34.420 and I think
00:17:34.840 a lot of
00:17:35.420 very well-meaning
00:17:36.800 Jewish people
00:17:37.460 kind of got
00:17:37.920 hoodwinked
00:17:38.520 during that
00:17:39.140 Islamophobia
00:17:39.740 discussion.
00:17:40.780 All right,
00:17:41.020 so I understand
00:17:41.700 the last part.
00:17:42.400 I'm actually
00:17:42.960 not sure
00:17:43.500 they're well-meaning.
00:17:44.660 I think
00:17:45.060 they've
00:17:45.400 committed
00:17:45.660 suicide.
00:17:46.640 I think
00:17:47.000 they've
00:17:47.320 killed
00:17:47.540 themselves.
00:17:48.320 I think
00:17:48.680 they've
00:17:49.020 killed
00:17:49.320 others.
00:17:50.040 This was
00:17:50.340 always
00:17:50.820 suicidal
00:17:51.340 to me.
00:17:52.000 You could
00:17:52.240 see the
00:17:52.640 writing
00:17:52.880 on the
00:17:53.200 wall
00:17:53.480 10 million
00:17:54.820 miles
00:17:55.240 away.
00:17:55.600 All you
00:17:55.940 have to
00:17:56.300 do
00:17:56.580 is
00:17:57.320 study
00:17:57.640 demographics.
00:17:59.440 Study
00:17:59.680 what's
00:18:00.000 happened
00:18:00.320 in the
00:18:00.640 West.
00:18:01.760 Study
00:18:02.220 what's
00:18:02.500 happened
00:18:02.780 in
00:18:02.980 Europe.
00:18:04.020 Study
00:18:04.340 what's
00:18:04.680 happened
00:18:05.020 in
00:18:05.260 Canada.
00:18:06.320 And you
00:18:06.600 can
00:18:06.800 understand
00:18:07.440 even
00:18:07.760 this
00:18:08.020 rabbi
00:18:08.520 that
00:18:08.720 was
00:18:08.860 killed
00:18:09.180 that
00:18:09.340 they
00:18:09.480 say
00:18:09.700 well
00:18:09.840 they
00:18:09.960 have
00:18:10.080 no
00:18:10.240 evidence
00:18:10.560 it's
00:18:10.780 a
00:18:10.900 hate
00:18:11.080 crime
00:18:11.440 in
00:18:11.600 Detroit.
00:18:11.960 Well
00:18:12.040 what was
00:18:12.340 it?
00:18:12.440 A love
00:18:12.760 crime?
00:18:13.820 Even
00:18:14.180 that
00:18:14.500 rabbi
00:18:15.040 was
00:18:15.280 instrumental
00:18:16.140 in
00:18:16.500 saying
00:18:16.900 that
00:18:17.100 the
00:18:17.240 other
00:18:17.480 side
00:18:17.880 are
00:18:18.080 her
00:18:18.320 friends.
00:18:19.580 And if
00:18:19.820 we've
00:18:20.060 ever
00:18:20.300 seen
00:18:20.660 a
00:18:20.840 wake
00:18:21.100 up
00:18:21.280 call
00:18:21.600 where
00:18:21.840 people
00:18:22.340 shot
00:18:23.200 at
00:18:23.560 raves
00:18:24.060 in
00:18:24.800 the
00:18:24.960 Negev
00:18:25.340 desert
00:18:25.720 innocent
00:18:26.780 truly
00:18:27.520 innocent
00:18:28.080 people
00:18:28.640 beheaded
00:18:29.240 whatever
00:18:29.960 you want
00:18:30.580 to say
00:18:31.040 carved
00:18:31.980 up
00:18:32.340 elderly
00:18:32.960 younger
00:18:33.500 if
00:18:34.060 there
00:18:34.240 was
00:18:34.440 ever
00:18:34.820 a
00:18:35.080 line
00:18:35.340 in
00:18:35.500 the
00:18:35.660 sand
00:18:36.020 that
00:18:36.420 if
00:18:36.580 the
00:18:36.740 two
00:18:37.000 religions
00:18:37.500 were
00:18:37.720 going
00:18:38.020 to
00:18:38.220 come
00:18:38.460 together
00:18:38.940 as
00:18:40.100 the
00:18:40.280 religion
00:18:40.640 of
00:18:40.880 peace
00:18:41.160 says
00:18:41.440 it's
00:18:41.640 a
00:18:41.760 religion
00:18:42.040 of
00:18:42.260 peace
00:18:42.520 and
00:18:42.640 we're
00:18:42.760 going
00:18:42.960 to
00:18:43.120 come
00:18:43.300 together
00:18:43.700 if
00:18:44.300 there
00:18:44.460 was
00:18:44.640 ever
00:18:45.060 an
00:18:45.260 example
00:18:45.700 where
00:18:46.000 people
00:18:46.340 would
00:18:46.580 say
00:18:46.780 there's
00:18:47.060 just
00:18:47.300 a
00:18:47.500 bridge
00:18:47.800 too
00:18:48.080 far
00:18:48.500 you
00:18:49.440 would
00:18:49.680 think
00:18:50.000 shooting
00:18:50.380 people
00:18:50.820 driving
00:18:51.320 down
00:18:51.640 a
00:18:51.840 road
00:18:52.080 or
00:18:52.340 at
00:18:52.560 a
00:18:52.700 music
00:18:53.120 rave
00:18:53.480 of
00:18:53.640 all
00:18:53.880 races
00:18:54.240 and
00:18:54.440 religions
00:18:54.880 Americans
00:18:55.920 Brazilians
00:18:57.140 Asians
00:18:58.460 whatever
00:18:59.140 it is
00:18:59.540 you would
00:19:00.080 think
00:19:00.360 they'd
00:19:00.840 come out
00:19:01.180 and say
00:19:01.480 you know
00:19:01.800 what
00:19:02.100 we
00:19:03.380 have
00:19:03.840 to do
00:19:04.180 something
00:19:04.520 about
00:19:04.800 it
00:19:04.900 I
00:19:05.020 mean
00:19:05.160 their
00:19:05.400 side
00:19:05.760 instead
00:19:06.300 it's
00:19:07.460 all
00:19:07.720 this
00:19:07.960 nonsensical
00:19:08.920 woke
00:19:09.340 garbage
00:19:09.960 language
00:19:10.420 settler
00:19:10.940 colonialism
00:19:11.600 this
00:19:12.100 that
00:19:12.440 and the
00:19:12.700 other
00:19:12.920 it's
00:19:13.520 all
00:19:13.800 horse manure
00:19:14.480 it's
00:19:14.960 garbage
00:19:15.380 and as
00:19:15.800 far as
00:19:16.220 I'm
00:19:16.440 concerned
00:19:16.900 the Jews
00:19:18.080 that have
00:19:18.420 gone down
00:19:18.980 this road
00:19:19.500 who tend
00:19:19.880 to be
00:19:20.200 left
00:19:20.480 or far
00:19:20.900 left
00:19:21.240 have all
00:19:22.380 essentially
00:19:22.980 assisted
00:19:23.640 the rest
00:19:24.220 of us
00:19:24.640 in committing
00:19:25.580 suicide
00:19:26.160 because they
00:19:26.920 all didn't
00:19:27.860 listen to
00:19:28.380 the words
00:19:28.840 from 1945
00:19:29.920 which was
00:19:31.220 never again
00:19:32.080 and all
00:19:33.200 they've
00:19:33.540 done
00:19:33.780 is allow
00:19:34.440 it
00:19:34.680 to begin
00:19:35.420 again
00:19:35.820 Ari
00:19:37.220 Goldkind
00:19:37.920 always a
00:19:38.500 pleasure
00:19:38.720 I know
00:19:39.040 it's been
00:19:39.520 very difficult
00:19:40.160 for you
00:19:40.960 in the last
00:19:41.620 few days
00:19:42.000 but I'm
00:19:42.440 glad you're
00:19:42.800 speaking out
00:19:43.220 the way
00:19:43.480 you are
00:19:43.800 sir
00:19:43.960 thank you
00:19:44.300 for coming
00:19:44.560 on
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