Juno News - Trudeau bails at a critical moment for Canada

00:00:00.000 I can't help it.

00:00:00.800 I'm going to start with the weather.

00:00:02.520 It is cold and snowy and disgusting out,

00:00:04.820 and it's made me super mad

00:00:06.340 because I'm still paying crazy taxes on my home heating

00:00:09.180 because it's not optional.

00:00:10.400 Otherwise, my pipes would burst.

00:00:12.300 Cosman, you're sitting there smirking at me.

00:00:14.080 Do you guys have cherry blossoms out right now in January or no?

00:00:17.780 Well, it's a damp, dreary 7 degrees here in Victoria, BC,

00:00:23.280 so obviously we're suffering.

00:00:26.220 All the cyclists are bundled up suffering as well.

00:00:30.000 Just add more vortex, Isaac.

00:00:32.740 Yeah, no, I was just thinking it's really, really warm here.

00:00:35.180 It's like minus 5, but it's been like minus 25,

00:00:37.880 so I was like, man, minus 5, it's like shorts weather out there.

00:00:40.320 I don't know what Cosman's living in Mexico with 7 degrees, man.

00:00:43.960 What the heck?

00:00:44.760 You guys are in flip-flops in Edmonton.

00:00:47.020 All right, let's get this thing started.

00:00:56.900 Welcome to Off the Record.

00:00:58.500 My name is Chris Sims.

00:00:59.460 I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:01:02.680 Thank you so much to True North for letting me sit in on this panel.

00:01:06.340 We've got a really fun show for you today

00:01:08.220 because it seems like something's been happening in Ottawa.

00:01:11.000 Not too sure about the news.

00:01:12.700 Joining me for this show are, of course, Cosman and Isaac.

00:01:15.600 Thank you so much, Hanlon, for joining me.

00:01:17.920 Thanks, Chris.

00:01:18.440 Hey, so the big story, of course, is Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is going to resign.

00:01:26.160 I will point that out.

00:01:27.920 He has not resigned yet.

00:01:29.660 He is still the Prime Minister.

00:01:31.580 He is still the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:01:34.300 But he announced that he's going to resign.

00:01:37.300 The question here, of course, is when, okay?

00:01:41.440 Is it going to be 60 days, 90 days?

00:01:43.640 Is he still going to be sitting in the front bench when Parliament comes back on March 24th?

00:01:47.900 Oh, and yeah, they prorogued Parliament. 0.94

00:01:50.900 So now everything is on hold.

00:01:52.700 Everything is frozen.

00:01:54.100 All of the legislation is dead.

00:01:56.780 So the good news is Bill C-63 is gone.

00:01:59.480 So that's really good news.

00:02:00.880 So they should be coming back March 24th.

00:02:02.780 So much to break down here, guys.

00:02:04.720 I just wanted to go around the horn for us before we get to our clips and our tweets here.

00:02:10.180 Isaac, what went through your mind when you saw him finally say he's going to leave?

00:02:14.600 Yeah, well, leading up to the announcement that Trudeau made,

00:02:19.800 and we all kind of knew it was coming or expected something along those lines,

00:02:23.780 I personally did not think that he would resign.

00:02:26.800 I didn't think he had it in him.

00:02:29.100 Obviously, we don't know what's going on behind closed doors,

00:02:31.860 whether he's being forced or anything of the sort.

00:02:34.000 But I still was very surprised when I heard those words come out of his mouth.

00:02:39.220 But as you mentioned, Chris, this isn't him resigning.

00:02:42.600 And we'll go through the tweets soon.

00:02:44.180 But for example, when I was writing up the story on Ted Cruz saying that he resigned,

00:02:49.180 it's not technically true.

00:02:50.500 He hasn't yet resigned.

00:02:51.660 And who knows when that day will come.

00:02:54.000 But I do think that despite him not resigning and despite Parliament being prorogued

00:02:59.800 and despite Canada facing tariff and annexation threats from the United States

00:03:04.580 and the list goes on and on, Canadians are probably relieved to know that change is coming eventually.

00:03:11.940 Can you imagine having a tariff and annexation threat?

00:03:15.220 And it's like secondary to be a relief of things finally changing in Ottawa.

00:03:21.400 Cosman, what was your take on it?

00:03:23.960 Yeah, my immediate thought was I couldn't think of an absolutely worse time to prorogue Parliament.

00:03:30.240 Not just the tariff and annexation stuff.

00:03:34.380 USMCA deal is going up for renegotiation.

00:03:38.140 Chinese interference is still a problem.

00:03:40.840 It hasn't been dealt with.

00:03:42.580 We have a confluence of all of these problems affecting our nation.

00:03:47.580 We have inflation, the cost of living crisis, the healthcare crisis,

00:03:52.000 people dying in waiting rooms and ERs and our Prime Minister decides it's a good time

00:03:59.600 to shut down all business in the House of Commons

00:04:02.580 and not even give people the chance to have a democratic vote on the future of this country

00:04:10.500 because that's what it comes down to.

00:04:12.460 And I would like to remind listeners and viewers that this Prime Minister

00:04:17.480 attacked the former Harper government for proroguing Parliament

00:04:22.120 and he called it a direct attack on democracy.

00:04:26.200 Yet this is the second time that he has done the same.

00:04:30.300 I will point out we've been getting a lot of emails with that same sort of tone

00:04:34.700 and a lot of folks wanted a chance to vote in the election with him in the election.

00:04:42.460 They wanted to be able to have their say, yes or no, whatever it is.

00:04:46.960 They wanted ultimately to have that say.

00:04:49.460 And I'm hearing a lot of frustration from people who are saying,

00:04:52.680 why is he going and exiting stage left and leaving this flaming bag

00:04:57.360 for the next Liberal leader to deal with in the next election?

00:05:01.100 Why isn't he standing for the next election?

00:05:03.180 So a lot of high spirits there.

00:05:05.100 I wanted to go through some of them here and get your thoughts on them.

00:05:08.820 Let's go with the Chrystia Freeland tweet here first

00:05:11.420 because, of course, she was finance minister that really helped get this thing spinning out of control.

00:05:17.020 So she says, I thank Justin Trudeau for his years of service to Canada and Canadians.

00:05:22.060 I wish him and his family the very best.

00:05:24.800 1.1 million views.

00:05:26.760 I will point out Chrystia Freeland was a terrible finance minister. 1.00

00:05:30.960 She never balanced the budget one time. 0.98

00:05:33.540 She was instrumental in helping to double the national debt.

00:05:39.200 Double it.

00:05:40.300 So throughout all of history of our governments, these guys doubled it.

00:05:43.460 And of course, she froze the bank accounts of Canadians

00:05:46.860 when they dared protest against the government,

00:05:49.800 which was found to be unreasonable by the federal court, I will point out.

00:05:54.960 So yeah, terrible finance minister.

00:05:57.220 And on her way out the door, this was the tweet.

00:05:59.140 So what is your take on that, guys?

00:06:00.820 Did you think that was genuine?

00:06:05.740 Well, I can jump into it.

00:06:07.460 Sure.

00:06:07.640 I think it's just boilerplate, milquetoast statement.

00:06:12.780 It obviously ignores the brewing conflict between her and the prime minister

00:06:18.480 and how much weight you want to put into that.

00:06:21.300 That's up to you.

00:06:22.760 Obviously, they have very much aligned interests.

00:06:26.060 They follow a lot of the same ideas and ideological background.

00:06:32.400 And to me, it's quite hard to distinguish between the two at this point.

00:06:37.160 There is a very thin line of difference between Chrystia Freeland and Justin Trudeau.

00:06:42.520 They, throughout their political careers, have been tied at the hip

00:06:46.700 and have acted almost as a single unit.

00:06:50.060 So, it's yet to be seen whether she is considering running for the leadership.

00:06:57.120 She's obviously been singled out by the legacy media as a suitable replacement for Justin Trudeau.

00:07:06.440 But whether Canadians buy that, I'm not so sure about that.

00:07:11.560 Yeah, I'll just say I saw really in people wishing Trudeau farewell

00:07:19.820 and I was paying close attention to all the premiers across Canada.

00:07:22.720 I really saw two themes emerge.

00:07:24.740 One, a simpler boilerplate answer, as Cosman said, basically just thanking him,

00:07:29.580 not really giving any examples per se, just a short answer.

00:07:32.320 And then the other side of the coin was people who were attacking him,

00:07:36.720 like Daniel Smith, who called his resignation selfish and, I mean,

00:07:40.380 gave very, very, very strong language against his resignation,

00:07:44.340 as we discussed previously in Canada's deep.

00:07:47.340 We need a government right now to negotiate with the threats we're facing.

00:07:54.120 Yeah, I had something else to say, but I forgot what the second one was.

00:07:58.040 We can get, well, I know somebody who has something to say.

00:08:00.700 Let's read U.S. President Donald Trump's tweet.

00:08:04.240 That was quite something.

00:08:05.400 So, quote, many people in Canada love being the 51st state.

00:08:10.000 The United States can no longer suffer the massive trade deficits and subsidies

00:08:14.100 that Canada needs to stay afloat.

00:08:17.140 Justin Trudeau knew this and resigned.

00:08:19.820 If Canada merged with the United States, there would be no tariffs.

00:08:23.660 Taxes would go way down and they would be totally secure

00:08:27.040 from the threat of Russian and Chinese ships that are constantly surrounding them.

00:08:31.820 Together, what a great nation it will be.

00:08:34.300 So, there's a peak Trump trolling in the middle of it.

00:08:40.300 He didn't call him governor there, I don't think.

00:08:44.300 So, it's been a tag team, really, between Musk and Trump.

00:08:48.240 And so, I will just say, as a taxpayer,

00:08:52.240 and as somebody who takes stuff seriously that's happening on Parliament Hill

00:08:55.860 because we all pay for it, it's super annoying from the tariff side of things

00:09:00.620 because he's not joking about the tariffs.

00:09:04.020 The tariffs are super for real.

00:09:06.460 So, here we have Parliament prorogued,

00:09:09.260 the carbon tax set to go up on April 1st,

00:09:12.460 like a week after they get back,

00:09:14.540 and we've got a trade war with a lame duck Prime Minister.

00:09:19.340 So, super not a good situation for taxpayers.

00:09:23.380 But what's annoying here is that because he's rattling the cage here,

00:09:27.960 saying, oh, 51st state and calling him governor,

00:09:30.380 I think Elon Musk called him,

00:09:31.920 hey, girl, you're not even governor of Canada anymore.

00:09:34.900 That was quite something.

00:09:36.060 Very schoolyard.

00:09:36.980 It's eating up so much oxygen.

00:09:39.820 Like, so many people in Ottawa are just gripped

00:09:42.620 with the trolling element of Trump here

00:09:44.640 that I think they might be missing the big thing,

00:09:47.200 which is the threat of tariffs.

00:09:48.620 I could be way off base on this.

00:09:50.340 So, Cosman, what did you think?

00:09:52.100 Sure.

00:09:52.640 We also have to look back that going into this,

00:09:55.520 Canada didn't necessarily have the best intentions

00:09:58.560 when negotiating trade with the United States.

00:10:01.740 We implement, well, the Liberals, rather,

00:10:03.960 implemented a digital service tax

00:10:06.780 that applies to U.S. providers as well.

00:10:09.460 And that was a thing that the Biden administration

00:10:12.260 really hammered the Liberals on

00:10:14.320 because it wasn't accepted all over the world.

00:10:17.360 I think it was OECD was discussing this,

00:10:20.860 but they didn't actually implement it.

00:10:23.180 And the Liberals took the initiative

00:10:24.920 to make up their own digital services tax

00:10:27.760 and then blanket apply it to all these U.S. companies.

00:10:31.280 So, the trade relationship off the get-go isn't a good one.

00:10:36.660 And going into the USMCA,

00:10:38.700 the renegotiation of the replacement of NAFTA,

00:10:42.980 there was all sorts of problems,

00:10:45.640 a significant one being that the Americans aren't happy

00:10:49.420 with Canada's dairy cartel,

00:10:52.500 the supply management system.

00:10:54.700 That might be up for renegotiation.

00:10:56.280 So, I think these moves by Trump,

00:10:59.520 a lot of people seem to misunderstand him

00:11:03.000 because he is somebody who wrote Art of the Deal.

00:11:06.060 And it's about coming back with a counteroffer.

00:11:09.840 And right now, Canada does not have a counteroffer.

00:11:12.780 We've left it up to the premiers,

00:11:14.780 to the provinces,

00:11:16.160 and I guess to the Canadian people themselves

00:11:18.480 to figure out how can we counteroffer

00:11:21.660 this obvious bluster and machismo

00:11:26.080 to intimidate us into accepting a position

00:11:30.040 that might not necessarily be in our best interest.

00:11:33.560 And that's where it gets a little bit frustrating

00:11:35.220 because every now and then,

00:11:37.100 people forget,

00:11:38.260 if you want to know what someone's like,

00:11:39.820 listen when they tell you.

00:11:41.420 His book, In Art of the Deal,

00:11:43.380 explains that he will come through

00:11:45.180 like a freight train at first,

00:11:46.900 bull in a china shop,

00:11:47.860 he'll rough you up.

00:11:49.180 He'll get you wondering

00:11:49.880 if you're even in the right room.

00:11:51.500 And then he'll come back

00:11:52.600 with a nicer counteroffer back and forth.

00:11:54.580 And that's in order to destabilize you.

00:11:57.000 So, this has been the way

00:11:58.600 he does business deals very successfully

00:12:00.700 for decades.

00:12:02.240 So, the idea that we'd be caught off base

00:12:04.180 with him saying,

00:12:05.600 hey, you're 51st state

00:12:06.560 and you're our governor now.

00:12:07.840 I liked what Doug Ford,

00:12:09.500 and I'm paraphrasing,

00:12:10.680 he's the Ontario premier, of course.

00:12:13.000 Doug Ford said something

00:12:14.260 along the lines of this

00:12:15.260 when he was on an American TV station.

00:12:17.860 Oh, can we take over Canada?

00:12:20.780 He's like,

00:12:21.120 oh, well, Canada's not for sale,

00:12:22.640 but how about you sell us Alaska instead?

00:12:25.780 That's how you do this.

00:12:27.800 That's how you get past

00:12:29.120 the silliness

00:12:30.280 and the pushing 0.97

00:12:31.360 and the shoving 0.99

00:12:32.040 and actually get down to brass tacks.

00:12:33.900 Isaac, what was your take on Trump?

00:12:35.900 We also have a cliff of Trump,

00:12:37.560 but this was...

00:12:38.320 Yeah.

00:12:39.440 Quickly, I'll start with Ford

00:12:40.640 because that's where you finished.

00:12:41.680 Obviously, he is the chair

00:12:43.000 of the Council of the Federation,

00:12:44.800 which is the group

00:12:45.540 of Canada's premiers,

00:12:46.480 and he's spoken on their behalf

00:12:49.120 in recent days,

00:12:50.440 specifically basically saying,

00:12:52.540 look, Trudeau has not resigned yet.

00:12:55.000 He still is the lead negotiator

00:12:56.660 for Canada,

00:12:57.140 but he does not have

00:12:58.200 a mandate to do so.

00:12:59.160 He doesn't have a public mandate.

00:13:00.440 The parties are against him.

00:13:02.540 The premiers are essentially

00:13:04.000 going to have to step up

00:13:05.140 in his place

00:13:06.060 and do the negotiations,

00:13:07.280 and Ford, in fact,

00:13:08.680 said he expected the same

00:13:09.880 of municipalities.

00:13:10.760 So, we'll see what that happens,

00:13:13.760 especially with a lot

00:13:14.480 of the premiers

00:13:15.060 assumed to be traveling

00:13:16.180 to the United States

00:13:17.080 for Trump's inauguration date.

00:13:19.420 Maybe they can manage

00:13:21.340 to do some negotiations

00:13:22.520 while they're down there.

00:13:24.520 It's hard to say, though.

00:13:26.620 Let's pull up the Cruz tweet here,

00:13:29.660 or X.

00:13:30.200 What do we call them on X now?

00:13:31.640 Posts?

00:13:32.160 Yeah, I say posts.

00:13:33.340 Posts, X, yeah.

00:13:34.900 Declarations due to Elon.

00:13:36.380 Okay, this is from Ted Cruz.

00:13:38.320 The trucker's convoy

00:13:40.200 was a major reason.

00:13:41.760 Trudeau resigned this week.

00:13:43.420 His repressive policies

00:13:44.820 were so over the top.

00:13:46.860 That was the beginning of the end.

00:13:48.620 I was proud to stand

00:13:50.080 with the truckers.

00:13:51.420 I was not expecting that language

00:13:53.740 because sometimes it's easy

00:13:55.280 up here in Canada

00:13:56.060 to think that people

00:13:57.260 forget about things.

00:13:58.880 And it's impressive

00:14:00.140 that Ted Cruz

00:14:01.240 has not forgotten about that.

00:14:02.580 And again,

00:14:03.260 we have to keep in mind

00:14:04.300 the Emergencies Act

00:14:05.400 was invoked,

00:14:06.960 which is, of course,

00:14:08.000 the modern incarnation

00:14:08.880 of the War Measures Act.

00:14:10.420 So that means that

00:14:11.100 your rights are suspended,

00:14:12.800 you're no longer able

00:14:13.880 to hold your government

00:14:14.780 to account,

00:14:15.480 which is a big problem

00:14:16.220 for taxpayers.

00:14:17.320 And in some cases,

00:14:18.640 the people who were protesting

00:14:19.840 or supporting protesters

00:14:21.520 had their bank accounts frozen,

00:14:24.040 which was an enormous overreach.

00:14:26.260 And the federal court said so.

00:14:28.400 Cosman, were you surprised

00:14:29.400 that Cruz brought it back to that?

00:14:30.800 Honestly, no,

00:14:33.380 I was not surprised

00:14:34.360 because there was so much

00:14:36.000 international attention

00:14:37.540 during the truckers' convoy,

00:14:40.000 particularly in the U.S.

00:14:41.720 There was people,

00:14:43.500 MPs in the U.K.

00:14:45.400 calling for intervention

00:14:46.740 from their own government

00:14:47.900 in Canadian affairs.

00:14:49.900 There was people in Europe,

00:14:51.540 the European Parliament,

00:14:53.240 decrying Justin Trudeau's

00:14:55.940 overreach and trampling

00:14:58.340 of peaceful protesters

00:15:00.260 and this unprecedented use

00:15:02.360 of the Emergencies Act.

00:15:03.680 And in a way, he's right.

00:15:04.900 This was the beginning of the end.

00:15:07.180 This is where

00:15:08.200 the international image

00:15:10.380 that Justin Trudeau

00:15:12.060 and the liberal government projected

00:15:13.960 started to crumble.

00:15:16.340 And what was underneath

00:15:17.660 was way different

00:15:19.620 than what they originally

00:15:21.080 sold themselves as.

00:15:22.540 This is a guy who ran

00:15:24.220 on electoral reform,

00:15:26.100 democracy, etc.,

00:15:27.460 of being, you know,

00:15:28.560 a champion

00:15:29.140 of democratic ideals worldwide,

00:15:31.740 doing the least democratic thing

00:15:34.020 by issuing an executive order

00:15:37.120 to suspend certain rights

00:15:39.400 of people who protested

00:15:41.540 against his COVID pandemic diktats.

00:15:45.000 So this was truly

00:15:47.440 the beginning of the end.

00:15:49.140 And I think whenever people

00:15:50.740 will think of Justin Trudeau

00:15:52.460 in the future,

00:15:53.800 historically speaking,

00:15:55.540 that will be one

00:15:56.740 of the main things

00:15:57.440 that come to mind.

00:15:58.260 Not him legalizing marijuana,

00:16:00.420 not the carbon tax.

00:16:02.460 It will be how he treated

00:16:03.720 his own citizens

00:16:04.660 because it was just

00:16:05.460 such an internationally

00:16:06.980 shocking incident.

00:16:09.700 I will say

00:16:10.660 I've covered him

00:16:11.700 for a long time

00:16:12.580 before he even ran

00:16:14.580 to be a member

00:16:15.140 of parliament.

00:16:16.320 And I didn't see

00:16:18.000 that element of him coming.

00:16:19.720 He was always just

00:16:20.560 this kind of friendly,

00:16:21.640 the sunny ways thing.

00:16:22.560 Remember that?

00:16:23.120 It was really kind of light

00:16:25.920 all the time.

00:16:27.320 I did not see

00:16:28.340 that part of him coming,

00:16:29.740 the language that was used

00:16:31.260 against people

00:16:32.440 in a very divisive manner.

00:16:34.300 And it was leading up

00:16:35.440 to that a little bit.

00:16:36.360 I remember leading up

00:16:37.260 to the convoy

00:16:38.580 trying to take them on

00:16:40.160 over things like

00:16:40.980 a proposed truck tax,

00:16:42.380 for example,

00:16:42.960 a pickup truck tax,

00:16:44.260 increased carbon taxes.

00:16:45.740 And even then

00:16:46.680 they were starting

00:16:47.640 to use nasty language

00:16:49.300 like,

00:16:49.620 oh,

00:16:49.980 you're just

00:16:50.480 this tiny group

00:16:51.540 and this is misinformation

00:16:53.040 and disinformation.

00:16:54.320 Like,

00:16:54.880 what?

00:16:55.240 Like,

00:16:55.400 it's super divisive.

00:16:56.620 And then,

00:16:56.980 of course,

00:16:57.280 that rhetoric

00:16:57.760 just ran off the scale

00:16:58.920 leading up

00:17:00.220 to the trucker convoy.

00:17:01.320 So,

00:17:01.500 yeah,

00:17:01.660 did not see that coming.

00:17:03.340 And I would agree

00:17:04.040 with you

00:17:04.360 that it was

00:17:04.920 kind of the big shift

00:17:06.260 because,

00:17:06.700 of course,

00:17:07.640 we had a change

00:17:08.480 in the conservative party leader

00:17:09.760 right around that time.

00:17:11.260 And it was right

00:17:11.880 around that time

00:17:12.520 that,

00:17:12.900 of course,

00:17:13.160 at the same time

00:17:13.700 we got a new opposition leader.

00:17:15.160 And that's when

00:17:15.660 things started tracking

00:17:16.620 in a wildly

00:17:17.360 different direction.

00:17:18.100 And here we are,

00:17:20.180 hopefully,

00:17:20.940 going to be getting

00:17:21.480 an election soon.

00:17:22.780 Isaac,

00:17:23.340 were you surprised

00:17:24.500 to see Cruz

00:17:25.140 bring it back to that?

00:17:27.780 Yeah,

00:17:28.380 well,

00:17:28.900 firstly,

00:17:29.320 I'll say Cruz,

00:17:30.620 Trump,

00:17:31.120 and,

00:17:31.500 of course,

00:17:31.840 VP J.D. Vance

00:17:33.060 have all historically

00:17:33.960 stood up with truckers.

00:17:35.580 They've been very supportive

00:17:36.760 of them,

00:17:37.600 talking about how

00:17:38.260 they're fighting

00:17:38.660 for freedom

00:17:39.360 against,

00:17:40.180 like,

00:17:40.760 authoritarian measures,

00:17:42.000 against totalitarianism.

00:17:43.480 These are the quotes

00:17:44.040 they've used.

00:17:45.140 In fact,

00:17:45.680 J.D.

00:17:46.040 or,

00:17:46.380 sorry,

00:17:46.620 Ted Cruz

00:17:47.060 went to bat

00:17:47.840 against the Ottawa police

00:17:49.340 during the convoy

00:17:50.820 because the police,

00:17:51.660 essentially,

00:17:52.560 the Ottawa police,

00:17:53.600 threatened its residents

00:17:54.900 saying,

00:17:55.360 look,

00:17:55.540 if you participate

00:17:56.780 in this convoy,

00:17:58.920 we're going to

00:17:59.700 financially attack you.

00:18:01.500 And Cruz said

00:18:02.120 this would not have happened

00:18:03.160 if you had a First Amendment.

00:18:05.060 So,

00:18:05.440 yeah,

00:18:05.740 no,

00:18:05.940 he's historically

00:18:06.600 stood with truckers,

00:18:07.880 so I wouldn't find it

00:18:09.020 too surprising

00:18:09.720 in that sense

00:18:10.320 that he's bringing it back now,

00:18:12.100 especially with the

00:18:13.340 anniversary

00:18:13.840 of the convoy

00:18:14.840 coming up.

00:18:15.320 I think that's on

00:18:16.160 the 22nd of January,

00:18:17.940 if I recall.

00:18:19.060 So,

00:18:19.420 yeah,

00:18:19.740 not all too surprising,

00:18:20.880 no.

00:18:21.500 Wow,

00:18:21.900 it was quite something.

00:18:23.200 Do we want to play

00:18:24.020 the Trump clip here?

00:18:25.720 This is where,

00:18:26.600 so,

00:18:27.380 for folks who don't know,

00:18:28.820 Mar-a-Lago

00:18:29.380 is this kind of old,

00:18:31.240 as far as,

00:18:32.020 as far as the United States

00:18:33.040 goes old.

00:18:33.900 Sorry,

00:18:34.200 Cosmin.

00:18:34.860 Mar-a-Lago

00:18:35.680 is this old mansion

00:18:36.960 and it's often referred to

00:18:38.860 as the Southern White House

00:18:40.100 and Trump has owned it

00:18:41.240 for,

00:18:41.640 I don't know how long.

00:18:42.280 So,

00:18:42.900 he owns it

00:18:43.460 as one of his houses

00:18:44.860 and so what they're doing

00:18:46.200 right now

00:18:46.680 is leading up

00:18:47.440 to the inauguration,

00:18:48.660 they're just getting

00:18:49.180 all these world leaders

00:18:50.140 coming in

00:18:50.760 and all of his

00:18:51.280 different assistants

00:18:51.900 and that

00:18:52.240 and they're basically

00:18:52.900 building what they

00:18:54.080 have to do next

00:18:55.000 and so he actually

00:18:56.280 held a really long

00:18:57.720 press conference,

00:18:58.400 it was over an hour,

00:18:59.380 I listened to a whole

00:19:00.180 thing yesterday,

00:19:01.500 freewheeling,

00:19:02.320 kind of the old

00:19:02.960 Trump coming back,

00:19:04.320 taking on the press corps

00:19:05.340 and he was asked

00:19:07.260 about the Conservative

00:19:09.400 leader and of course

00:19:10.700 we know that's

00:19:11.220 Pierre Polyev,

00:19:12.340 about Polyev pushing

00:19:14.240 back on this whole

00:19:15.140 51st state sort of

00:19:16.680 nonsense.

00:19:17.380 Let's listen to this.

00:19:18.800 Mr. President,

00:19:20.700 if you were working

00:19:21.320 with the assumption

00:19:22.020 that you're serious

00:19:22.860 about making Canada

00:19:23.840 the 51st state

00:19:24.800 of the United States,

00:19:26.320 the leader of the

00:19:27.240 Conservative Party

00:19:27.920 in Canada said

00:19:28.680 under no circumstances

00:19:29.900 it won't ever be

00:19:30.580 the 51st state.

00:19:31.060 Maybe he won't win,

00:19:32.600 but maybe he will.

00:19:33.340 You had suggested

00:19:35.060 you were considering

00:19:38.020 military force

00:19:39.840 to acquire Panama

00:19:41.140 and Greenland.

00:19:42.460 Are you also

00:19:42.880 considering military

00:19:43.880 force to annex

00:19:45.460 and acquire Panama?

00:19:46.140 No, economic force

00:19:47.760 because Canada

00:19:49.460 and the United States,

00:19:50.960 that would really

00:19:52.120 be something.

00:19:55.660 So again,

00:19:57.020 the rhetoric's there,

00:19:58.440 but to me this

00:19:59.360 sounds just like

00:20:00.140 classic Trump.

00:20:01.160 Economic force,

00:20:02.140 that's what a 25%

00:20:03.320 tariff is.

00:20:04.920 And a tariff really

00:20:05.780 is just a tax

00:20:06.480 by another name.

00:20:07.280 It's an import

00:20:07.820 or export tax

00:20:08.780 depending on which

00:20:09.380 way you're going.

00:20:10.380 And it would frankly

00:20:11.340 hurt both sides

00:20:12.320 of the border

00:20:12.740 and it would hurt

00:20:13.400 taxpayers.

00:20:14.720 What was your take

00:20:15.540 on the no,

00:20:16.680 I don't care,

00:20:17.760 Isaac?

00:20:18.880 Yeah,

00:20:19.340 this is actually

00:20:19.920 what I wanted

00:20:20.360 to discuss earlier

00:20:22.000 which kind of

00:20:22.520 slipped my mind

00:20:23.000 at the time.

00:20:23.540 But, you know,

00:20:24.660 leading up to this

00:20:25.480 with the tariffs

00:20:26.320 and whatnot,

00:20:26.860 I really think

00:20:27.740 Canadians,

00:20:28.660 including myself,

00:20:29.380 kind of thought

00:20:29.800 Trump was joking around

00:20:30.780 especially with the

00:20:31.380 annexation.

00:20:32.020 But after watching

00:20:33.140 this clip,

00:20:33.640 I started to realize

00:20:34.820 I don't think

00:20:36.420 he's joking in any way.

00:20:37.740 This guy is

00:20:38.260 dead serious

00:20:39.240 about implementing

00:20:40.060 these tariffs

00:20:40.580 if we don't

00:20:42.600 negotiate with him

00:20:43.680 properly

00:20:44.020 and address

00:20:44.760 the concerns

00:20:45.340 that he has

00:20:45.860 which is drugs

00:20:46.460 flowing over the border,

00:20:47.660 illegal immigration,

00:20:48.740 the lengthy list

00:20:49.480 of things

00:20:49.880 that he's asked for.

00:20:51.080 And also,

00:20:52.660 I think people

00:20:53.160 are starting

00:20:53.480 to realize

00:20:53.940 this is not

00:20:55.560 an option

00:20:56.060 for Canada.

00:20:56.760 We need protection

00:20:57.860 from the United States

00:20:59.000 of America.

00:20:59.880 If we did not

00:21:00.940 have their protection,

00:21:01.640 if they were not

00:21:02.160 our ally,

00:21:02.840 imagine China,

00:21:03.640 imagine Russia 0.61

00:21:04.260 coming to our country 0.99

00:21:05.420 and taking our stuff.

00:21:06.640 What are we going

00:21:07.360 to do about that?

00:21:08.200 Absolutely nothing.

00:21:09.300 We've reported

00:21:09.940 extensively at True North

00:21:11.200 about the military's

00:21:12.560 many, many issues.

00:21:14.420 We are in no

00:21:15.040 state to defend

00:21:17.160 ourselves.

00:21:17.740 And on top of that,

00:21:19.600 our citizens

00:21:20.180 have no options

00:21:21.420 to defend themselves.

00:21:22.200 We don't really have guns.

00:21:23.040 We don't have any way

00:21:24.420 to fend off an invasion.

00:21:27.020 So, yeah,

00:21:27.820 without the United States, 0.89

00:21:29.000 we are sitting ducks.

00:21:31.460 Yeah.

00:21:31.920 Yeah.

00:21:32.720 What was your take

00:21:33.700 on that, Kossin?

00:21:35.840 In a way,

00:21:36.800 Trump is speaking truth

00:21:39.440 that kind of has been ignored

00:21:41.100 by Canadian politicians

00:21:42.860 in the sense that

00:21:43.860 Canada does rely 0.96

00:21:45.200 defense-wise

00:21:46.480 on the United States.

00:21:48.400 NORAD, for example.

00:21:50.160 We do not have

00:21:51.160 any military bases,

00:21:53.140 functioning military bases

00:21:54.500 in the Arctic.

00:21:55.800 We couldn't defend

00:21:56.800 the Arctic if,

00:21:58.520 like you said,

00:21:59.300 Russia or China

00:22:00.000 decided to

00:22:01.020 just stake a claim on it.

00:22:02.840 That is a very

00:22:03.800 hotly contested

00:22:05.140 future geopolitical arena

00:22:07.120 that Canada

00:22:08.260 simply does not have

00:22:09.420 the means and ways

00:22:10.640 to hold.

00:22:13.240 And additionally,

00:22:14.080 a lot,

00:22:14.980 you know,

00:22:15.380 it's sad to say,

00:22:17.060 but a lot of

00:22:17.720 our defense

00:22:18.480 decision-making

00:22:19.540 originates in

00:22:20.960 Washington, D.C.

00:22:22.600 Because just simply,

00:22:24.100 we are neighbors

00:22:25.060 to a superpower.

00:22:26.720 That's how it works.

00:22:28.120 We have to

00:22:29.320 at least

00:22:30.360 collaborate

00:22:31.520 and provide assistance

00:22:32.860 to our ally.

00:22:34.360 But that being said,

00:22:36.320 there is an element

00:22:37.600 of indignity

00:22:38.820 that I think

00:22:39.540 Canadians feel

00:22:40.720 when

00:22:41.460 the future president

00:22:43.400 is talking about

00:22:44.640 Canada in this way.

00:22:46.360 Canada as just 0.66

00:22:47.480 a share

00:22:48.940 that can be

00:22:49.780 bought and sold.

00:22:50.860 And I don't think

00:22:51.540 Canadians view

00:22:52.460 this country,

00:22:53.320 its history

00:22:53.860 and culture

00:22:54.480 that way.

00:22:55.560 And while I respect

00:22:57.460 the president

00:22:58.360 for taking

00:22:59.200 a vastly

00:23:00.820 different approach

00:23:01.700 to politics

00:23:02.380 that I think

00:23:02.960 a lot of people

00:23:03.540 have been accustomed

00:23:04.300 to this nice,

00:23:05.740 you know,

00:23:06.020 everybody's friends,

00:23:07.340 but when reality

00:23:08.480 comes knocking

00:23:09.260 on the door,

00:23:10.400 there are

00:23:11.120 certain things

00:23:12.280 we have to

00:23:12.940 accept as facts,

00:23:13.880 but at the same time,

00:23:15.520 we must stand up

00:23:16.560 for ourselves.

00:23:17.600 And we don't have

00:23:18.220 a government

00:23:18.640 doing that.

00:23:19.800 Parliament is prorogued.

00:23:21.060 There's nobody

00:23:21.680 on our side

00:23:22.500 of the negotiating table

00:23:23.860 that has stood up

00:23:25.020 as a leader

00:23:25.600 because our leader

00:23:26.780 has decided

00:23:27.820 to duck out

00:23:28.580 of the back door.

00:23:30.520 Yeah,

00:23:31.280 it's prorogued.

00:23:32.240 Everything's shut down.

00:23:33.560 It's not great,

00:23:34.400 I will say.

00:23:35.160 The national narrative,

00:23:36.840 to put it nicely,

00:23:37.560 is not great right now.

00:23:39.100 Like I said,

00:23:39.920 I've followed

00:23:40.280 Trump's work

00:23:40.960 for decades

00:23:41.880 and usually

00:23:44.220 I agree

00:23:44.640 with his idea

00:23:45.440 of, you know,

00:23:45.980 pro-business,

00:23:46.800 lower taxes,

00:23:47.740 smaller government,

00:23:48.520 more freedom,

00:23:49.420 all that sort of stuff.

00:23:50.720 But the

00:23:51.560 I don't care

00:23:52.340 and the repeated

00:23:53.680 language about

00:23:54.400 51st state

00:23:55.220 is starting

00:23:56.100 to annoy me.

00:23:58.300 And if

00:23:59.120 he could tamp

00:24:00.160 that down

00:24:00.640 a little bit,

00:24:01.180 that'd be great.

00:24:01.980 His initial point

00:24:03.260 of saying

00:24:04.480 he wants

00:24:05.220 a better border

00:24:06.000 is a totally

00:24:07.140 legitimate point

00:24:08.160 and it's legitimate

00:24:09.380 on this side

00:24:10.060 of the border too.

00:24:10.960 in Canada

00:24:11.800 because of course

00:24:13.200 we're seeing

00:24:13.740 increased problems

00:24:14.720 of gun crime,

00:24:16.160 especially in our

00:24:17.360 urban cores

00:24:18.040 and in our cities.

00:24:18.980 And guess who

00:24:20.000 gets blamed for that?

00:24:21.760 Law-abiding

00:24:22.880 firearms owners,

00:24:24.120 which the Trudeau

00:24:25.340 government

00:24:25.720 is trying

00:24:26.520 to demonize

00:24:27.440 and they're

00:24:28.220 trying to seize

00:24:29.100 our private property,

00:24:30.440 even though

00:24:31.480 we have border

00:24:32.520 agencies

00:24:33.080 and police

00:24:34.480 saying

00:24:35.320 it's not

00:24:36.360 Canadian firearms

00:24:37.660 owners

00:24:38.200 that are the

00:24:38.640 problem.

00:24:39.300 It's the

00:24:39.780 illegal guns

00:24:40.720 coming across

00:24:41.740 the Canada-US

00:24:42.540 border

00:24:42.960 from the states

00:24:44.140 and elsewhere.

00:24:45.020 So it would

00:24:45.900 benefit both of us

00:24:47.180 if they would

00:24:48.480 clean that up

00:24:49.560 because we'd have

00:24:50.420 the added bonus

00:24:51.120 of not being in

00:24:51.900 the middle

00:24:52.200 of a trade war

00:24:53.540 with Donald Trump.

00:24:55.500 So yeah,

00:24:55.920 so much stuff

00:24:56.780 going on.

00:24:57.480 Do we want to

00:24:58.020 move to the

00:24:58.680 actual liberal

00:24:59.440 leadership race

00:25:00.160 now?

00:25:00.400 This is super

00:25:03.760 fun.

00:25:04.280 So I think

00:25:05.280 this was your

00:25:05.840 surprise,

00:25:06.480 because it was

00:25:07.620 hilarious.

00:25:08.900 I hadn't seen

00:25:09.760 this yet,

00:25:10.380 so I apologize.

00:25:11.260 You surprised

00:25:11.740 me with it.

00:25:12.420 Is the top

00:25:13.300 none of the

00:25:14.440 above with

00:25:15.020 liberals?

00:25:15.620 What's going

00:25:16.040 on?

00:25:16.500 Yeah,

00:25:16.640 so we could

00:25:17.920 obviously sit

00:25:18.460 and talk for

00:25:18.840 the last story

00:25:19.320 forever,

00:25:19.760 but hopping

00:25:20.140 to this,

00:25:21.480 so there's

00:25:22.060 this recurring

00:25:22.760 poll,

00:25:23.860 and in the

00:25:24.140 most recent

00:25:24.700 rendition,

00:25:26.900 the top pick

00:25:27.860 for Canadians

00:25:28.640 for who to

00:25:29.420 become leader

00:25:30.160 of the Liberal

00:25:30.680 Party.

00:25:31.140 Yes,

00:25:31.380 the top pick

00:25:31.900 was none

00:25:32.500 of the above.

00:25:34.140 In second

00:25:34.940 place,

00:25:35.700 following none

00:25:37.180 of the above

00:25:37.860 was Chrystia

00:25:38.700 Freeland,

00:25:39.820 then following

00:25:40.540 her was Mark 0.99

00:25:41.140 Carney,

00:25:41.580 and fourth

00:25:41.920 place,

00:25:42.300 this is another

00:25:42.740 one,

00:25:43.000 was unsure.

00:25:45.080 Trudeau was

00:25:45.660 tied,

00:25:46.540 he tied for

00:25:47.600 fifth with

00:25:48.060 other,

00:25:50.180 and six,

00:25:50.840 so six

00:25:51.280 percent of

00:25:51.700 Canadians

00:25:52.020 chose each 0.68

00:25:52.460 of those,

00:25:52.960 and then

00:25:53.240 Sean Frazier

00:25:54.100 and Anita

00:25:54.560 Anand were 0.88

00:25:55.680 tied for last

00:25:56.440 place with

00:25:57.040 two percent

00:25:57.480 of approval,

00:25:58.840 and as I

00:25:59.840 said,

00:26:00.100 this survey

00:26:00.500 had been

00:26:00.980 taking place

00:26:01.920 over the

00:26:02.540 last several

00:26:03.600 years,

00:26:04.120 and surprisingly,

00:26:05.620 actually,

00:26:06.120 none of the

00:26:06.520 above was

00:26:07.080 the top

00:26:07.500 choice in

00:26:07.980 every single

00:26:09.020 edition of

00:26:10.200 the survey.

00:26:12.040 So,

00:26:12.600 I mean,

00:26:13.200 this just

00:26:13.700 really shows

00:26:14.280 that the

00:26:14.980 existing Liberal

00:26:16.420 MPs at this

00:26:17.020 point should

00:26:17.420 know,

00:26:17.720 because this

00:26:17.960 year has been

00:26:18.360 going,

00:26:18.680 or sorry,

00:26:19.100 this survey

00:26:19.480 has been going

00:26:19.920 on for years,

00:26:20.820 that Canadians

00:26:22.200 don't want any

00:26:23.420 of them to

00:26:24.080 represent them

00:26:24.740 because they're

00:26:25.260 literally choosing

00:26:26.100 none of the

00:26:26.980 above over

00:26:28.500 any existing

00:26:30.000 Liberal MP,

00:26:30.940 that's the

00:26:31.480 option.

00:26:32.840 And Trudeau

00:26:33.240 was on the

00:26:33.720 list too,

00:26:34.200 though he may

00:26:34.580 not actually

00:26:35.080 take part in

00:26:35.620 this leadership

00:26:36.060 election,

00:26:36.580 but for

00:26:37.240 previous ones,

00:26:38.220 he certainly

00:26:38.660 was on the

00:26:39.740 list,

00:26:40.060 and he's

00:26:40.620 been hovering

00:26:41.000 around 10%,

00:26:42.100 but he reached

00:26:44.160 a record low

00:26:44.820 in this newest

00:26:46.100 rendition of the

00:26:46.960 survey that just

00:26:47.560 came out a few

00:26:48.440 days ago,

00:26:49.500 and this

00:26:50.440 paired with a

00:26:51.580 separate poll

00:26:52.080 where we saw

00:26:52.880 Trudeau start

00:26:54.460 the new year

00:26:54.960 with a record

00:26:55.540 low approval

00:26:56.360 rating,

00:26:56.880 and his party

00:26:57.800 polling worse

00:26:58.460 than it has

00:26:59.040 in its 157

00:27:00.540 year history.

00:27:01.640 So, I mean,

00:27:02.420 the Liberal

00:27:02.840 Party's in

00:27:03.420 shambles,

00:27:04.180 and clearly

00:27:05.360 Canadians don't

00:27:06.400 think that there

00:27:07.060 is a suitable

00:27:08.960 replacement on

00:27:09.740 the table.

00:27:10.740 How do you

00:27:11.260 guys think

00:27:11.700 that Liberal

00:27:13.220 MPs should be

00:27:13.960 taking this,

00:27:14.640 seeing that

00:27:15.180 Canadians are

00:27:15.900 more likely to

00:27:16.500 choose nobody

00:27:17.360 than them to

00:27:18.960 represent the

00:27:19.640 party heading

00:27:20.340 into this

00:27:20.860 leadership election?

00:27:22.980 Kalsman?

00:27:23.300 Yeah, there

00:27:25.920 should be some

00:27:26.800 element of

00:27:27.620 reflection as

00:27:28.620 to how much

00:27:30.120 of a personality

00:27:31.160 cult the Liberal

00:27:32.420 brand has

00:27:33.140 become.

00:27:33.900 It has become

00:27:35.040 totally tied to

00:27:36.680 the person, to

00:27:37.860 the individual of

00:27:39.140 Justin Trudeau,

00:27:40.860 and for a while

00:27:42.380 we've known

00:27:43.100 Justin Trudeau as

00:27:44.400 Teflon Trudeau.

00:27:45.460 He could do

00:27:45.880 anything and it

00:27:47.420 would just slide

00:27:48.060 off him, but

00:27:49.200 that armor has

00:27:50.420 rusted, and all

00:27:52.180 of his mistakes,

00:27:53.760 all of his

00:27:54.420 overreaches, all

00:27:55.660 of his scandals

00:27:56.600 are underneath

00:27:58.460 that Teflon

00:27:59.460 layer and

00:28:00.120 they're starting

00:28:00.700 to really,

00:28:02.100 really show

00:28:02.680 through.

00:28:03.820 And when you

00:28:04.280 compare it to

00:28:05.200 2015, I

00:28:06.820 recall back

00:28:07.740 when Justin

00:28:08.800 Trudeau, even

00:28:10.380 before that,

00:28:11.000 just became the

00:28:11.960 Liberal leader,

00:28:13.060 and not to

00:28:14.120 sound too much

00:28:15.480 like a young

00:28:16.960 person or Gen

00:28:17.960 Z, but the

00:28:18.800 vibes, there

00:28:20.220 were vibes there,

00:28:21.180 there was a

00:28:21.800 vitality, an

00:28:23.180 energy, a

00:28:24.580 sort of

00:28:25.280 momentum that

00:28:27.040 Trudeau picked

00:28:27.880 up on, especially

00:28:29.140 among young

00:28:29.900 people, that is

00:28:31.160 totally lost, and

00:28:32.260 you don't see it

00:28:33.460 with any candidate

00:28:34.360 on the Liberal

00:28:35.140 side.

00:28:35.960 There's no single

00:28:37.040 individual who

00:28:38.660 you can point

00:28:39.460 to that is

00:28:40.700 stepping up and

00:28:42.300 appearing

00:28:43.680 different, giving

00:28:44.960 an alternative to

00:28:46.260 what the Liberals

00:28:46.920 have been for

00:28:47.800 the last 9-10

00:28:48.900 years.

00:28:49.360 So, again,

00:28:51.200 they've lost the

00:28:51.940 vibes, there's

00:28:52.580 no energy there

00:28:53.500 anymore, and

00:28:54.460 it's totally

00:28:55.020 shifted to

00:28:56.400 Pierre Polyev, as

00:28:57.680 the polls

00:28:58.320 indicate, and

00:28:59.680 especially among

00:29:00.780 young voters.

00:29:01.980 Even the NDP

00:29:02.900 don't have

00:29:04.020 traction with

00:29:05.160 younger voters

00:29:05.980 who really have

00:29:07.940 been among the

00:29:09.720 worst hit by the

00:29:11.220 9 years of

00:29:11.920 Justin Trudeau.

00:29:12.740 They've had their

00:29:13.440 entire futures

00:29:15.040 robbed from them,

00:29:16.340 and they are

00:29:17.460 going to make

00:29:18.700 that known when

00:29:19.880 they go to the

00:29:20.520 ballot.

00:29:21.820 Yeah, I think

00:29:22.860 this poll might

00:29:25.340 be showing that

00:29:27.120 Canadians agree

00:29:28.140 with the stance

00:29:28.980 that the

00:29:29.540 Conservative Party

00:29:30.240 of Canada has

00:29:31.060 taken against

00:29:31.920 the Liberals in

00:29:32.540 their upcoming

00:29:32.980 leadership election.

00:29:34.060 They've basically

00:29:34.480 said, look, look

00:29:36.740 at all the MPs

00:29:37.620 that are potential

00:29:38.920 leadership candidates,

00:29:40.040 it's all Justin

00:29:41.000 Trudeau's posse.

00:29:41.980 Don't forget,

00:29:42.680 this is not

00:29:43.840 changing who the

00:29:44.740 Liberal, or sorry,

00:29:45.680 who the Liberal

00:29:46.280 Party are as

00:29:47.400 an entity, what

00:29:48.640 they've become as

00:29:49.500 an ideology, and

00:29:51.100 that's what the

00:29:51.500 Conservatives have

00:29:52.000 been saying, like,

00:29:52.880 the Liberal Party

00:29:53.560 is the Liberal

00:29:53.960 Party, this is

00:29:54.680 Justin Trudeau's

00:29:55.340 Liberal Party, none

00:29:56.740 of these potential

00:29:57.540 MPs are changing

00:29:58.520 that image, and

00:29:59.160 clearly Canadians

00:30:00.380 agree, saying that

00:30:01.220 they don't want

00:30:01.960 anything to do

00:30:03.100 with that party or

00:30:04.060 its existing MPs.

00:30:06.240 Yeah, it's

00:30:07.040 definitely a changed

00:30:08.120 atmosphere.

00:30:09.160 I remember when

00:30:10.260 the members of

00:30:11.320 Parliament and the

00:30:12.100 opposition Liberals

00:30:13.240 were getting Trudeau

00:30:14.240 to run for

00:30:14.920 leader.

00:30:15.680 And they were

00:30:16.480 all kind of

00:30:16.900 rallying around

00:30:17.600 him, and they

00:30:17.980 were handing out

00:30:18.500 this pin.

00:30:19.620 It was going

00:30:20.100 everywhere, all

00:30:21.000 through the foyer

00:30:21.580 of the House

00:30:22.040 of Commons.

00:30:23.120 And there was

00:30:24.000 excitement, there

00:30:24.980 was this kind of

00:30:25.540 strange optimism.

00:30:26.800 I always found it

00:30:27.560 a little bit silly

00:30:28.220 because I think

00:30:29.080 politics is about

00:30:29.980 other people's

00:30:30.640 lives, and I

00:30:31.840 don't think it

00:30:32.320 should be this

00:30:32.940 kind of silly

00:30:33.500 sport all the

00:30:34.360 time.

00:30:34.960 But I do hang

00:30:35.800 on to some of

00:30:36.280 the stuff for

00:30:37.060 old time's sake.

00:30:38.360 It has changed a

00:30:39.660 lot, and it's

00:30:40.880 for the worse.

00:30:42.080 We've got, the

00:30:42.740 debt has been

00:30:43.680 doubled by this

00:30:45.120 government.

00:30:45.760 We've got runaway

00:30:46.960 inflation.

00:30:47.820 Again, this is the

00:30:49.000 fault of the

00:30:49.440 government because

00:30:50.660 they've printed

00:30:51.400 hundreds of

00:30:52.080 billions of

00:30:52.640 dollars out of

00:30:53.340 thin air, too

00:30:54.340 many dollars

00:30:54.900 chasing too few

00:30:55.820 things, as it is

00:30:56.840 put.

00:30:57.600 We've got massive

00:30:58.680 censorship.

00:31:00.020 Okay?

00:31:00.680 They tried

00:31:01.320 ramming through

00:31:01.920 Bill C-63, and

00:31:03.180 at the very last

00:31:03.880 second, thankfully,

00:31:04.760 it's gone.

00:31:05.520 But that would

00:31:06.200 have been

00:31:06.480 criminalizing people's

00:31:07.740 online expression,

00:31:08.900 both in the past

00:31:09.720 end in the

00:31:10.320 future, anonymously.

00:31:12.040 Like, that bill

00:31:12.640 was crazy.

00:31:14.080 We've got Bill

00:31:14.840 C-11, which

00:31:15.660 already went into

00:31:16.640 play, which is

00:31:17.360 going to be

00:31:17.920 affecting podcasts

00:31:19.200 even.

00:31:19.860 It's going to be

00:31:20.260 affecting alternative

00:31:21.060 media because the

00:31:22.460 government wants to

00:31:23.300 be able to decide

00:31:24.120 what other people

00:31:25.040 can see, hear, and

00:31:26.000 say on the

00:31:26.640 internet.

00:31:27.600 We've got a gun

00:31:29.400 seizure.

00:31:30.360 It's outrageous

00:31:31.200 what is going on.

00:31:32.500 Like, pretty much

00:31:33.060 everywhere you look

00:31:34.220 in Canada, where

00:31:36.140 the federal

00:31:36.660 government has an

00:31:38.080 effect on it.

00:31:39.240 It's a mess.

00:31:40.900 And then, of

00:31:41.340 course, we have

00:31:42.440 got the carbon

00:31:43.180 tax set to go

00:31:44.740 up again on

00:31:45.620 April 1st.

00:31:46.320 And this is

00:31:46.680 something, if you

00:31:47.260 don't mind me

00:31:47.740 tooting my horn,

00:31:48.780 there's a little

00:31:49.780 image here from

00:31:50.760 where I had put it

00:31:51.480 in the Toronto

00:31:51.980 Sun.

00:31:52.760 And we're trying

00:31:53.540 to implore the

00:31:55.000 liberal leaders to

00:31:56.740 disavow the carbon

00:31:58.140 tax, that now is

00:31:59.180 the time.

00:32:00.160 This carbon tax is

00:32:01.160 wildly unpopular.

00:32:02.780 Last year, this

00:32:03.660 time, when they were

00:32:04.540 going to have an

00:32:05.100 increase, 70% of

00:32:06.740 Canadians said they

00:32:07.740 were against it.

00:32:08.680 70%.

00:32:09.300 So, imagine you're

00:32:11.100 the new liberal

00:32:11.720 leader.

00:32:12.540 You're minted.

00:32:13.360 You're sitting down

00:32:14.120 there on March 24th

00:32:15.660 in Parliament.

00:32:17.080 One week later, you

00:32:18.200 crank up the carbon

00:32:19.080 tax and then you

00:32:20.200 hit the campaign

00:32:20.960 trail.

00:32:22.580 Knock, knock. 0.93

00:32:23.340 Who's there?

00:32:24.200 Carbon tax hike.

00:32:25.220 Can I have your

00:32:25.820 vote?

00:32:26.800 Like, are you

00:32:27.920 crazy?

00:32:28.840 That would be

00:32:29.440 madness.

00:32:30.320 So, we're

00:32:30.820 encouraging all of

00:32:32.800 the liberals to

00:32:33.640 come back from the

00:32:34.400 brink now and

00:32:35.420 disavow themselves of

00:32:36.520 this terrible,

00:32:37.260 expensive failure.

00:32:38.140 I don't think it'll

00:32:38.640 change things because,

00:32:39.980 to your point, both of

00:32:40.920 you, I think this has

00:32:42.560 been kind of a team

00:32:43.480 Trudeau, like the

00:32:44.280 button says.

00:32:45.280 This is no longer

00:32:46.140 kind of the John

00:32:47.520 Manley, Paul Martin,

00:32:48.920 that sort of more

00:32:49.680 serious liberal

00:32:50.480 government when they

00:32:51.640 balance the budget.

00:32:52.940 Totally different form

00:32:54.000 of a liberal

00:32:54.420 government.

00:32:56.180 Cosmin, you had an

00:32:57.840 issue where you were

00:32:58.540 raising about foreign

00:32:59.620 actors playing a role

00:33:00.960 here in the liberal

00:33:01.880 leadership, but I

00:33:02.580 haven't been keeping up

00:33:03.340 with that element.

00:33:04.220 Could you fill us in?

00:33:06.460 Right.

00:33:06.880 So, I interviewed or

00:33:08.680 just had a quick

00:33:09.980 discussion with the

00:33:11.200 former chair of the

00:33:12.440 organizing committee of

00:33:13.640 the conservative

00:33:14.260 leadership contest that

00:33:16.360 saw Pierre Polyev elected

00:33:18.460 and he pointed out that

00:33:22.440 the way the Liberal Party

00:33:24.040 of Canada's membership

00:33:25.240 rules work is that

00:33:27.580 anybody residing within

00:33:29.960 Canada can become a 0.78

00:33:33.020 Liberal Party member.

00:33:35.080 That doesn't mean they

00:33:36.460 have to be Canadian 0.94

00:33:37.360 citizens.

00:33:38.220 That doesn't mean they

00:33:39.060 have to be permanent

00:33:39.920 residents, but anybody

00:33:41.120 who has their feet on

00:33:43.160 the soil in Canada can

00:33:45.920 become a Liberal Party

00:33:47.460 member.

00:33:48.120 And if you're a member,

00:33:48.900 that means you can vote

00:33:50.020 in nomination processes.

00:33:51.320 You can vote on

00:33:52.880 leadership elections.

00:33:54.820 And he's not the only

00:33:56.480 one to raise awareness

00:33:57.920 about this.

00:33:58.640 CSIS brought it up

00:34:00.620 back when the

00:34:01.520 Handong allegations of

00:34:03.400 Chinese seniors being

00:34:05.660 bused to his

00:34:06.320 nomination meeting

00:34:09.560 ended up taking place.

00:34:12.080 It was also a warning

00:34:13.740 by the Elections

00:34:15.180 Commissioner of Canada

00:34:16.360 saying that they should

00:34:17.860 change their rules to

00:34:19.300 avoid foreign 1.00

00:34:20.120 interference in their

00:34:21.860 leadership and

00:34:23.460 nomination selection

00:34:24.700 process.

00:34:25.440 So this is a huge

00:34:28.240 problem because, you

00:34:30.440 know, the chances

00:34:31.720 might be slim, but if

00:34:32.900 another Liberal Party

00:34:33.980 leader becomes Prime

00:34:36.100 Minister again, there

00:34:37.800 is a very, very

00:34:39.900 significant and

00:34:40.960 realistic likelihood

00:34:42.260 that there could be

00:34:44.300 more foreign meddling 0.89

00:34:46.260 involved.

00:34:47.540 There's no backstop

00:34:49.220 or checks on this.

00:34:50.460 people have been

00:34:51.920 playing around online

00:34:52.980 on social media right

00:34:54.080 now, signing up

00:34:55.820 under all sorts of

00:34:57.220 ridiculous names to

00:34:58.240 Liberal Party

00:34:58.800 membership.

00:34:59.700 As Xi Jinping, they

00:35:00.960 put, like, the

00:35:01.760 address of the

00:35:03.440 Chinese consulate as

00:35:05.020 their address, and

00:35:06.400 there's no way to

00:35:07.400 verify it or to tell

00:35:09.040 if these are fake

00:35:09.880 registrations, and

00:35:11.820 it's a serious

00:35:12.740 problem because the

00:35:14.280 Liberal Party, whether

00:35:15.340 we like it or not, is

00:35:17.060 a significant force in

00:35:19.540 Canadian politics and

00:35:21.180 political history, and

00:35:22.280 when a major party has

00:35:24.040 this vulnerability in

00:35:25.320 place, it's seriously

00:35:27.780 an issue that affects

00:35:29.320 everybody because

00:35:30.220 foreign meddling means 0.95

00:35:32.180 that our sovereignty is

00:35:34.240 directly under attack.

00:35:35.540 People's choices are

00:35:36.660 being swayed by forces

00:35:38.820 they don't even know

00:35:40.040 of.

00:35:41.020 And to your point, it

00:35:43.140 isn't a maybe.

00:35:44.760 The next Liberal Party

00:35:46.480 leader will be Prime

00:35:48.200 Minister.

00:35:48.600 It may just be for a

00:35:50.600 week.

00:35:51.080 Absolutely right.

00:35:52.040 So that is, wow, I

00:35:53.740 did not realize that it

00:35:55.440 was to this extent where

00:35:57.060 you have to have, pardon

00:35:59.220 the phrase, two feet in

00:36:00.420 a heartbeat, and you have

00:36:01.580 to be standing in Canada,

00:36:03.240 and then I can become a

00:36:04.760 member and then

00:36:05.360 participate?

00:36:06.020 Is that what you're

00:36:06.460 saying?

00:36:07.660 That's right.

00:36:08.340 There's no permanent

00:36:10.160 residency or citizenship

00:36:11.420 requirements, whereas in

00:36:13.960 contrast, the Conservative

00:36:15.500 Party of Canada requires

00:36:17.600 you to show that you're a

00:36:19.400 citizen or at least a

00:36:21.280 permanent resident to be

00:36:22.640 able to vote, become a 0.79

00:36:24.760 member and vote within

00:36:25.760 their internal processes

00:36:27.040 and have a say in party

00:36:29.000 matters.

00:36:29.940 So this is a weird

00:36:31.200 situation.

00:36:31.800 Again, what I was just

00:36:33.700 mentioning there of the

00:36:35.000 next Liberal Party leader

00:36:36.500 will be the Prime Minister

00:36:38.760 of Canada.

00:36:39.380 I know this sounds weird,

00:36:42.160 okay, but once Trudeau

00:36:43.740 resigns and the new Liberal

00:36:45.860 Party leader is named, you

00:36:48.840 don't need to be a member of

00:36:50.380 Parliament to be a member of

00:36:52.480 Cabinet.

00:36:53.740 And the Prime Minister is the

00:36:56.680 first minister in the Cabinet

00:36:59.120 who reports to the Crown.

00:37:02.380 That's how this works.

00:37:04.180 That's why they're all called

00:37:05.240 ministers.

00:37:05.640 And just to throw a pop

00:37:07.880 culture reference, right, we

00:37:09.400 have a Manchurian candidate

00:37:11.040 situation here where you

00:37:12.960 could effectively, not even

00:37:15.360 just one candidate, multiple

00:37:17.000 candidates, we could have a

00:37:18.880 free-for-all of foreign 1.00

00:37:20.540 influence candidates running

00:37:22.380 for the Liberal leadership, not

00:37:24.140 a single one perhaps

00:37:25.580 representing the true values or

00:37:27.760 at least having their opinions

00:37:29.600 skewed or shaped in such a way

00:37:32.280 that it doesn't benefit us, but

00:37:33.900 it benefits a shadowy foreign 1.00

00:37:36.760 actor.

00:37:38.760 You know, I thought it was

00:37:39.880 weird enough when I was

00:37:40.760 reading about it in one of the

00:37:42.240 broadsheets and they were

00:37:43.800 pointing out that, so for

00:37:44.840 example, you know, Christy

00:37:45.840 Clark, former BC Premier,

00:37:47.540 doesn't have a seat in the

00:37:48.880 House.

00:37:50.120 If she won, she would still

00:37:51.760 technically be Prime Minister

00:37:52.960 though.

00:37:53.620 Same sort of thing if it were

00:37:54.440 Mark Carney who doesn't have a

00:37:55.640 seat in the House.

00:37:56.460 Same thing.

00:37:57.500 Because they would be the

00:37:58.640 Prime Minister.

00:37:59.980 I hadn't thought about the

00:38:01.600 actual elements of the people

00:38:03.700 registering and voting and

00:38:05.200 all of, wow, that's quite

00:38:06.480 something.

00:38:07.260 Have we heard, sorry to put

00:38:08.220 you on the spot, but have we

00:38:10.060 heard any grown-ups talking

00:38:11.420 about this in a serious

00:38:12.580 manner that could actually

00:38:13.720 rein this in or fix it

00:38:14.940 before it happens?

00:38:17.340 Yeah, so the latest report

00:38:19.180 I've seen from the CBC

00:38:20.580 indicates that the Liberals are

00:38:23.680 not intending to change their

00:38:25.140 membership rules.

00:38:26.240 They've shown no indication of

00:38:28.200 changing the membership rules.

00:38:29.680 although I will add they have

00:38:32.000 not released their leadership

00:38:33.980 election rules yet.

00:38:35.400 So there could be certain

00:38:37.820 stipulations that they add to

00:38:40.040 the Liberal leadership election

00:38:41.900 process that has extra

00:38:44.300 requirements on what sort of

00:38:46.400 members can vote.

00:38:48.460 But we haven't seen those yet.

00:38:50.640 Obviously the Liberals are

00:38:51.740 rushing to put together a last

00:38:53.840 minute Liberal leadership race.

00:38:55.940 So until that's out, we don't

00:38:58.000 really know the full extent of

00:38:59.880 it.

00:39:00.300 It would be, it would surprise

00:39:01.440 me, honestly, if they don't

00:39:02.580 fix this because the

00:39:04.080 establishment people have been

00:39:05.480 in the game for decades.

00:39:07.100 They don't want their arena

00:39:09.080 torched by some outside

00:39:10.740 influence and have their own

00:39:12.060 influence be gone.

00:39:13.140 Like this is part of, you know,

00:39:14.480 self-preservation as well as

00:39:16.520 making sure that it's Canadians 0.93

00:39:17.820 who have a say as who gets to

00:39:20.000 actually lead us and govern us.

00:39:21.440 Did we want to get to our really

00:39:22.840 fun kicker in Ottawa where you're

00:39:25.120 no longer allowed to idle your

00:39:26.460 vehicle or Isaac, did you have?

00:39:27.680 Yeah, let me just say two

00:39:29.160 things on this story quick.

00:39:30.900 Cosmin already used the good

00:39:32.060 Xi Jinping example, but I saw

00:39:34.000 another one because you said

00:39:34.980 you have to be standing in

00:39:35.820 Canada.

00:39:36.120 I'm not sure that's true

00:39:36.980 because someone was saying they

00:39:38.060 were in Europe and used a fake

00:39:41.040 name to apply to the leadership

00:39:43.800 party.

00:39:44.340 I mean, this is ridiculous.

00:39:45.740 How are the proper checks and

00:39:46.880 balances not in place?

00:39:47.800 A junior level coder could create

00:39:51.380 bots to manipulate this.

00:39:53.700 You don't have to be a tech

00:39:54.640 genius.

00:39:55.280 I mean, this is ridiculous.

00:39:56.200 The fact that you couldn't stop

00:39:57.860 that level, let alone an actual,

00:40:00.500 let's say, someone who has tech

00:40:02.520 experience.

00:40:03.120 I mean, imagine how easily you

00:40:04.540 could manipulate this process.

00:40:06.740 They definitely, I think I'll agree

00:40:08.880 with you, Chris.

00:40:09.420 They have to do something.

00:40:10.900 I mean, this is such Bush

00:40:12.760 League, literally Bush League.

00:40:15.380 I mean, what else can you really

00:40:16.620 say?

00:40:16.960 Like this is, I mean, it's child's

00:40:18.820 play to exploit.

00:40:20.040 You can't possibly have something

00:40:21.580 this easily exploitable at the

00:40:24.000 federal level.

00:40:25.620 But yeah, before I get too heated

00:40:27.140 with that, let's end with this,

00:40:31.880 which is a change we saw in Ottawa,

00:40:35.580 where yes, even if they pass their

00:40:38.240 coldest temperature ever, which is

00:40:39.620 minus 39 degrees.

00:40:40.840 I know if you live in Alberta, you

00:40:42.020 think that's it.

00:40:43.000 I mean, I think that happened last

00:40:44.160 weekend.

00:40:45.420 Residents will be unable to idle their

00:40:48.720 vehicle for more than one minute an

00:40:50.420 hour going forward.

00:40:51.960 This is irrespective of the

00:40:53.120 temperature.

00:40:54.640 So the city of Ottawa, they made

00:40:56.420 these bylaw changes that are coming

00:40:58.560 into effect just this January and

00:41:00.740 the new year, which weirdly followed

00:41:04.220 some research that showed that

00:41:06.300 people in Ottawa might not even agree

00:41:08.960 with the change.

00:41:09.700 So I don't know how they determined

00:41:12.260 that they should make these changes

00:41:13.600 despite them using research that

00:41:16.040 showed the contrary.

00:41:17.380 Uh, yeah, also this, this is for

00:41:23.960 unoccupied vehicles, but you won't be

00:41:25.620 able to idle for more than three

00:41:26.940 minutes, an hour in an occupied

00:41:28.540 vehicle when the temperature is

00:41:30.500 between zero and 27 degrees Celsius.

00:41:32.920 So hopefully they don't get stuck in

00:41:34.960 any traffic because idling for more

00:41:38.640 than three hours.

00:41:39.200 And I mean, come on, how would you even

00:41:40.340 enforce this?

00:41:40.920 This is ridiculous.

00:41:42.020 Oh, just watch them.

00:41:43.920 Yeah.

00:41:44.820 And so, uh, but, but, but it gets

00:41:47.020 better, Chris, when it's, uh, when

00:41:48.860 it's below zero degrees or above 27,

00:41:51.120 you're allowed to idle in an occupied

00:41:52.760 vehicle for 10 minutes, an hour.

00:41:54.620 So, uh, in, in the, in the minus 50,

00:41:56.940 if you were inside your vehicle, you're

00:41:58.300 allowed to idle for 10 minutes, an

00:41:59.480 hour.

00:41:59.640 But once that clock strikes 11 minutes,

00:42:01.780 even if it's minus 50, I mean, you're

00:42:03.100 going to have to turn that car off and

00:42:04.620 just, uh, take your best bet with, uh,

00:42:07.220 with mother nature.

00:42:08.120 Uh, good luck in that one.

00:42:09.540 If you're in Ottawa, because I wouldn't

00:42:12.000 be playing around in temperatures like

00:42:13.720 that.

00:42:14.380 Uh, I mean, what's, what's up with this

00:42:17.080 bylaw guys, what do you think?

00:42:18.320 Especially with the update, because, uh,

00:42:20.960 in the prior, in the prior version of

00:42:23.580 the bylaw, uh, these rules were not in

00:42:25.900 place if it was below zero degrees or

00:42:27.880 above 27, meaning over half the year was

00:42:30.560 exempt from this bylaw.

00:42:31.580 But obviously this takes that completely

00:42:33.120 out of the equation.

00:42:35.420 Cause and I'll let you have first kick. 0.97

00:42:37.120 Thanks, Chris.

00:42:39.300 Although I think you could speak better

00:42:40.740 to this topic than I could, but when

00:42:43.560 bureaucrats and municipalities need to 0.88

00:42:46.840 find ways to get money out of taxpayers,

00:42:49.940 they will come up with invent all sorts of

00:42:53.080 inventive ways to do so.

00:42:54.840 And there's no better thing or a slush 1.00

00:42:58.520 fund rather than the climate, uh, you

00:43:01.520 know, emergency and sort of the need to

00:43:03.620 save the climate and play people's

00:43:05.320 heartstrings.

00:43:05.920 And this is what I think it is.

00:43:08.020 Ottawa needs money.

00:43:09.540 They have to find new ways to get money.

00:43:12.140 They can't raise property taxes all the

00:43:14.560 time on people.

00:43:15.560 It's extremely unpopular.

00:43:17.300 So they try to hide in these little ways that

00:43:20.500 bylaw officers can go out and ticket people and, and

00:43:23.540 cite these, uh, obscene and ridiculous, uh, totally

00:43:28.100 detached from reality procedures and laws.

00:43:31.920 Because I don't know about you, but when I'm out

00:43:34.460 there, I don't really see on the roads, people

00:43:37.480 idling that much.

00:43:38.600 I think people try to reduce their idling amount.

00:43:41.560 Sure.

00:43:42.060 In the morning, you know, if it's minus 20 plus

00:43:45.360 degrees, you might go out, turn on your car or do it

00:43:47.940 from your window.

00:43:48.540 If you have a fancy automatic start and let your car heat

00:43:52.160 up for a couple minutes before you hop in and drive to work.

00:43:56.220 But I just don't see the, that it, this is as such a huge issue

00:44:01.600 that it requires enforcement people making things more expensive for people.

00:44:06.900 You know, people deal with tickets all of the time, parking tickets,

00:44:10.260 unfair speeding tickets, but having to deal with an additional concern,

00:44:15.980 having a bylaw officer knock on your door while you're getting ready to go to work

00:44:20.340 and pay your taxes because you left your car on for a little bit and wanted to heat

00:44:26.220 it up, but maybe for your, you know, three-year-old child that you're trying to

00:44:29.340 take to daycare.

00:44:30.340 So they're not freezing all the way there.

00:44:32.700 Now, now you're in trouble, right?

00:44:35.340 This to me is classic Ottawa.

00:44:38.160 Uh, Ottawa is the center of big government.

00:44:42.340 There is not a regulation or a little foot force that they have not met that they have

00:44:47.220 not loved. If you walk around Ottawa, every tree has a metal tag on it.

00:44:54.300 So that their parks and rec police also known as the NCC can keep track of it,

00:44:59.860 which by the way, of course, taxpayers pay for fully.

00:45:02.460 Um, Ottawa can become a joke of itself.

00:45:05.860 It loves to expand the role of government to get up into your grill, 0.50

00:45:11.700 to nickel and dime you and to virtue signal.

00:45:14.660 They get to do all of this at the same time with this thing.

00:45:18.520 And I am surprised that the folks in Ottawa are putting up with this because it's not

00:45:24.200 just the downtown bureaucrats that were so frightened of, you know, honking for a little

00:45:28.640 while that live there.

00:45:29.780 There are a ton of good, hardworking people that live in that area.

00:45:34.700 They used to listen to my old radio station, CFRA.

00:45:37.460 They'd live out to Arnpire. 0.59

00:45:38.980 They'd go down to CARP.

00:45:39.960 They were down the Ottawa Valley.

00:45:41.780 Lots of working class folks who don't like this nonsense. 1.00

00:45:46.400 And here we go.

00:45:47.520 This is classic Ottawa.

00:45:48.680 People might remember Ottawa was the city that was ticketing and fining little girls

00:45:55.320 for setting up a lemonade stand.

00:45:58.880 I kid you not.

00:46:00.560 And the reason I'm so ticked off about this is one,

00:46:03.200 obviously the infringement on somebody's personal freedom, like go fly a kite.

00:46:07.240 Yeah, I've got my car idling because it's minus 30.

00:46:10.820 Go away.

00:46:11.980 Number two, huge cost.

00:46:14.140 They're going to have all these little bylaw officers and they're going to be testing.

00:46:17.680 And what are they going to stand there with a stopwatch each time?

00:46:20.720 They're going to make sure.

00:46:22.220 What if it's the third infraction?

00:46:23.700 It's just wild.

00:46:24.880 So this is the continuing war on the car.

00:46:27.820 And frankly, the city, city governments are tasked largely with doing three things.

00:46:34.220 Keep the city streets safe, clean, and in good repair.

00:46:40.360 Right now, Ottawa sucks, pardon my language, on all three counts.

00:46:46.000 The last time I was there was for a conference downtown.

00:46:49.080 It was shocking.

00:46:50.320 There was human excrement on the sidewalk.

00:46:53.760 I could see the Peace Tower and right there.

00:46:56.740 So I'll just call out the mayor, Mark Sutcliffe.

00:46:59.100 He used to work with me at that news talk radio station.

00:47:02.160 You happy with this?

00:47:03.100 Look around your city streets.

00:47:06.000 I was not safe walking from Laurier down to Gladstone, down Bank Street.

00:47:11.760 It was unbelievable.

00:47:14.480 Totally unbelievable.

00:47:15.760 It was dirty.

00:47:16.720 It was dangerous.

00:47:17.960 And there were holes all through the street.

00:47:19.660 But they'll come and ticket you, Cosmin, if you're trying to heat up your car to take

00:47:24.400 your daughter to daycare, all the while hiking up your taxes and fees while doing it.

00:47:28.840 They should be ashamed of themselves.

00:47:30.060 And frankly, the folks in Ottawa shouldn't put up with this anymore.

00:47:33.680 They should swamp City Hall with emails and phone calls and tell them to back off on this.

00:47:37.440 Sorry, I wasn't expecting to get that mad.

00:47:39.420 But I lived there for a long time.

00:47:42.760 And there's a lot of people there that are really busting their butts trying to work normal jobs.

00:47:46.760 And they're just going to get you watch.

00:47:48.740 They're going to nail the suburbs and the residences.

00:47:52.000 They won't be going to the Glebe.

00:47:53.700 They won't be going to Rockcliffe.

00:47:55.360 They'll be going out to Canada and Orleans and nailing people there. 0.86

00:47:59.300 Mark my words.

00:48:00.220 All right, folks, thanks for listening to my rant about living in Ottawa.

00:48:05.320 Folks, if you have any questions, head on over to the True North website.

00:48:09.920 Send us a comment.

00:48:10.740 Put a comment on our YouTube channel.

00:48:13.000 And of course, remember, everything that we've said here today is off the record.

00:48:17.200 I can't believe those absolute jerks are doing that.

00:48:28.560 It's going to be so mad.

00:48:30.740 Yeah, I mean, I was like, well, I really hope she doesn't ask me for anything.

00:48:33.820 What could I say after this?

00:48:36.060 I hope that was okay.

00:48:37.420 Well, you described it so well.

00:48:39.040 So I didn't mention the city said the bylaws will be get this, Chris.

00:48:43.940 This is no cheap ticket.

00:48:46.360 $615.

00:48:47.200 Are you kidding me?

00:48:48.700 This is insane.

00:48:49.760 This is that's literally more expensive than any ticket.

00:48:52.340 I can think of maybe a red light one.

00:48:53.640 I mean, $615 is disgusting.

00:48:56.260 Wow.

00:48:57.400 I mean, it doesn't matter now.

00:48:58.640 I don't think red light tickets are that much.

00:49:00.160 No, they're not.

00:49:00.940 There's no way.

00:49:01.580 The only ticket I know that's more than that is an insurance ticket.

00:49:04.120 Like you don't have insurance like two grand.

00:49:06.040 But outside of that, I mean, what is that high?

00:49:07.940 I have not.

00:49:08.980 I mean, we're not.

00:49:10.600 I don't know.

00:49:11.320 I can think of those.

00:49:12.840 I can'm going to go to you next time.

00:49:13.500 Okay?

00:49:13.560 You

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