Juno News - January 10, 2025


Trudeau bails at a critical moment for Canada


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00:00:00.000 I can't help it.
00:00:00.800 I'm going to start with the weather.
00:00:02.520 It is cold and snowy and disgusting out,
00:00:04.820 and it's made me super mad
00:00:06.340 because I'm still paying crazy taxes on my home heating
00:00:09.180 because it's not optional.
00:00:10.400 Otherwise, my pipes would burst.
00:00:12.300 Cosman, you're sitting there smirking at me.
00:00:14.080 Do you guys have cherry blossoms out right now in January or no?
00:00:17.780 Well, it's a damp, dreary 7 degrees here in Victoria, BC,
00:00:23.280 so obviously we're suffering.
00:00:26.220 All the cyclists are bundled up suffering as well.
00:00:30.000 Just add more vortex, Isaac.
00:00:32.740 Yeah, no, I was just thinking it's really, really warm here.
00:00:35.180 It's like minus 5, but it's been like minus 25,
00:00:37.880 so I was like, man, minus 5, it's like shorts weather out there.
00:00:40.320 I don't know what Cosman's living in Mexico with 7 degrees, man.
00:00:43.960 What the heck?
00:00:44.760 You guys are in flip-flops in Edmonton.
00:00:47.020 All right, let's get this thing started.
00:00:56.900 Welcome to Off the Record.
00:00:58.500 My name is Chris Sims.
00:00:59.460 I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:01:02.680 Thank you so much to True North for letting me sit in on this panel.
00:01:06.340 We've got a really fun show for you today
00:01:08.220 because it seems like something's been happening in Ottawa.
00:01:11.000 Not too sure about the news.
00:01:12.700 Joining me for this show are, of course, Cosman and Isaac.
00:01:15.600 Thank you so much, Hanlon, for joining me.
00:01:17.920 Thanks, Chris.
00:01:18.440 Hey, so the big story, of course, is Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is going to resign.
00:01:26.160 I will point that out.
00:01:27.920 He has not resigned yet.
00:01:29.660 He is still the Prime Minister.
00:01:31.580 He is still the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:01:34.300 But he announced that he's going to resign.
00:01:37.300 The question here, of course, is when, okay?
00:01:41.440 Is it going to be 60 days, 90 days?
00:01:43.640 Is he still going to be sitting in the front bench when Parliament comes back on March 24th?
00:01:47.900 Oh, and yeah, they prorogued Parliament.
00:01:50.900 So now everything is on hold.
00:01:52.700 Everything is frozen.
00:01:54.100 All of the legislation is dead.
00:01:56.780 So the good news is Bill C-63 is gone.
00:01:59.480 So that's really good news.
00:02:00.880 So they should be coming back March 24th.
00:02:02.780 So much to break down here, guys.
00:02:04.720 I just wanted to go around the horn for us before we get to our clips and our tweets here.
00:02:10.180 Isaac, what went through your mind when you saw him finally say he's going to leave?
00:02:14.600 Yeah, well, leading up to the announcement that Trudeau made,
00:02:19.800 and we all kind of knew it was coming or expected something along those lines,
00:02:23.780 I personally did not think that he would resign.
00:02:26.800 I didn't think he had it in him.
00:02:29.100 Obviously, we don't know what's going on behind closed doors,
00:02:31.860 whether he's being forced or anything of the sort.
00:02:34.000 But I still was very surprised when I heard those words come out of his mouth.
00:02:39.220 But as you mentioned, Chris, this isn't him resigning.
00:02:42.600 And we'll go through the tweets soon.
00:02:44.180 But for example, when I was writing up the story on Ted Cruz saying that he resigned,
00:02:49.180 it's not technically true.
00:02:50.500 He hasn't yet resigned.
00:02:51.660 And who knows when that day will come.
00:02:54.000 But I do think that despite him not resigning and despite Parliament being prorogued
00:02:59.800 and despite Canada facing tariff and annexation threats from the United States
00:03:04.580 and the list goes on and on, Canadians are probably relieved to know that change is coming eventually.
00:03:11.940 Can you imagine having a tariff and annexation threat?
00:03:15.220 And it's like secondary to be a relief of things finally changing in Ottawa.
00:03:21.400 Cosman, what was your take on it?
00:03:23.960 Yeah, my immediate thought was I couldn't think of an absolutely worse time to prorogue Parliament.
00:03:30.240 Not just the tariff and annexation stuff.
00:03:34.380 USMCA deal is going up for renegotiation.
00:03:38.140 Chinese interference is still a problem.
00:03:40.840 It hasn't been dealt with.
00:03:42.580 We have a confluence of all of these problems affecting our nation.
00:03:47.580 We have inflation, the cost of living crisis, the healthcare crisis,
00:03:52.000 people dying in waiting rooms and ERs and our Prime Minister decides it's a good time
00:03:59.600 to shut down all business in the House of Commons
00:04:02.580 and not even give people the chance to have a democratic vote on the future of this country
00:04:10.500 because that's what it comes down to.
00:04:12.460 And I would like to remind listeners and viewers that this Prime Minister
00:04:17.480 attacked the former Harper government for proroguing Parliament
00:04:22.120 and he called it a direct attack on democracy.
00:04:26.200 Yet this is the second time that he has done the same.
00:04:30.300 I will point out we've been getting a lot of emails with that same sort of tone
00:04:34.700 and a lot of folks wanted a chance to vote in the election with him in the election.
00:04:42.460 They wanted to be able to have their say, yes or no, whatever it is.
00:04:46.960 They wanted ultimately to have that say.
00:04:49.460 And I'm hearing a lot of frustration from people who are saying,
00:04:52.680 why is he going and exiting stage left and leaving this flaming bag
00:04:57.360 for the next Liberal leader to deal with in the next election?
00:05:01.100 Why isn't he standing for the next election?
00:05:03.180 So a lot of high spirits there.
00:05:05.100 I wanted to go through some of them here and get your thoughts on them.
00:05:08.820 Let's go with the Chrystia Freeland tweet here first
00:05:11.420 because, of course, she was finance minister that really helped get this thing spinning out of control.
00:05:17.020 So she says, I thank Justin Trudeau for his years of service to Canada and Canadians.
00:05:22.060 I wish him and his family the very best.
00:05:24.800 1.1 million views.
00:05:26.760 I will point out Chrystia Freeland was a terrible finance minister.
00:05:30.960 She never balanced the budget one time.
00:05:33.540 She was instrumental in helping to double the national debt.
00:05:39.200 Double it.
00:05:40.300 So throughout all of history of our governments, these guys doubled it.
00:05:43.460 And of course, she froze the bank accounts of Canadians
00:05:46.860 when they dared protest against the government,
00:05:49.800 which was found to be unreasonable by the federal court, I will point out.
00:05:54.960 So yeah, terrible finance minister.
00:05:57.220 And on her way out the door, this was the tweet.
00:05:59.140 So what is your take on that, guys?
00:06:00.820 Did you think that was genuine?
00:06:05.740 Well, I can jump into it.
00:06:07.460 Sure.
00:06:07.640 I think it's just boilerplate, milquetoast statement.
00:06:12.780 It obviously ignores the brewing conflict between her and the prime minister
00:06:18.480 and how much weight you want to put into that.
00:06:21.300 That's up to you.
00:06:22.760 Obviously, they have very much aligned interests.
00:06:26.060 They follow a lot of the same ideas and ideological background.
00:06:32.400 And to me, it's quite hard to distinguish between the two at this point.
00:06:37.160 There is a very thin line of difference between Chrystia Freeland and Justin Trudeau.
00:06:42.520 They, throughout their political careers, have been tied at the hip
00:06:46.700 and have acted almost as a single unit.
00:06:50.060 So, it's yet to be seen whether she is considering running for the leadership.
00:06:57.120 She's obviously been singled out by the legacy media as a suitable replacement for Justin Trudeau.
00:07:06.440 But whether Canadians buy that, I'm not so sure about that.
00:07:11.560 Yeah, I'll just say I saw really in people wishing Trudeau farewell
00:07:19.820 and I was paying close attention to all the premiers across Canada.
00:07:22.720 I really saw two themes emerge.
00:07:24.740 One, a simpler boilerplate answer, as Cosman said, basically just thanking him,
00:07:29.580 not really giving any examples per se, just a short answer.
00:07:32.320 And then the other side of the coin was people who were attacking him,
00:07:36.720 like Daniel Smith, who called his resignation selfish and, I mean,
00:07:40.380 gave very, very, very strong language against his resignation,
00:07:44.340 as we discussed previously in Canada's deep.
00:07:47.340 We need a government right now to negotiate with the threats we're facing.
00:07:54.120 Yeah, I had something else to say, but I forgot what the second one was.
00:07:58.040 We can get, well, I know somebody who has something to say.
00:08:00.700 Let's read U.S. President Donald Trump's tweet.
00:08:04.240 That was quite something.
00:08:05.400 So, quote, many people in Canada love being the 51st state.
00:08:10.000 The United States can no longer suffer the massive trade deficits and subsidies
00:08:14.100 that Canada needs to stay afloat.
00:08:17.140 Justin Trudeau knew this and resigned.
00:08:19.820 If Canada merged with the United States, there would be no tariffs.
00:08:23.660 Taxes would go way down and they would be totally secure
00:08:27.040 from the threat of Russian and Chinese ships that are constantly surrounding them.
00:08:31.820 Together, what a great nation it will be.
00:08:34.300 So, there's a peak Trump trolling in the middle of it.
00:08:40.300 He didn't call him governor there, I don't think.
00:08:44.300 So, it's been a tag team, really, between Musk and Trump.
00:08:48.240 And so, I will just say, as a taxpayer,
00:08:52.240 and as somebody who takes stuff seriously that's happening on Parliament Hill
00:08:55.860 because we all pay for it, it's super annoying from the tariff side of things
00:09:00.620 because he's not joking about the tariffs.
00:09:04.020 The tariffs are super for real.
00:09:06.460 So, here we have Parliament prorogued,
00:09:09.260 the carbon tax set to go up on April 1st,
00:09:12.460 like a week after they get back,
00:09:14.540 and we've got a trade war with a lame duck Prime Minister.
00:09:19.340 So, super not a good situation for taxpayers.
00:09:23.380 But what's annoying here is that because he's rattling the cage here,
00:09:27.960 saying, oh, 51st state and calling him governor,
00:09:30.380 I think Elon Musk called him,
00:09:31.920 hey, girl, you're not even governor of Canada anymore.
00:09:34.900 That was quite something.
00:09:36.060 Very schoolyard.
00:09:36.980 It's eating up so much oxygen.
00:09:39.820 Like, so many people in Ottawa are just gripped
00:09:42.620 with the trolling element of Trump here
00:09:44.640 that I think they might be missing the big thing,
00:09:47.200 which is the threat of tariffs.
00:09:48.620 I could be way off base on this.
00:09:50.340 So, Cosman, what did you think?
00:09:52.100 Sure.
00:09:52.640 We also have to look back that going into this,
00:09:55.520 Canada didn't necessarily have the best intentions
00:09:58.560 when negotiating trade with the United States.
00:10:01.740 We implement, well, the Liberals, rather,
00:10:03.960 implemented a digital service tax
00:10:06.780 that applies to U.S. providers as well.
00:10:09.460 And that was a thing that the Biden administration
00:10:12.260 really hammered the Liberals on
00:10:14.320 because it wasn't accepted all over the world.
00:10:17.360 I think it was OECD was discussing this,
00:10:20.860 but they didn't actually implement it.
00:10:23.180 And the Liberals took the initiative
00:10:24.920 to make up their own digital services tax
00:10:27.760 and then blanket apply it to all these U.S. companies.
00:10:31.280 So, the trade relationship off the get-go isn't a good one.
00:10:36.660 And going into the USMCA,
00:10:38.700 the renegotiation of the replacement of NAFTA,
00:10:42.980 there was all sorts of problems,
00:10:45.640 a significant one being that the Americans aren't happy
00:10:49.420 with Canada's dairy cartel,
00:10:52.500 the supply management system.
00:10:54.700 That might be up for renegotiation.
00:10:56.280 So, I think these moves by Trump,
00:10:59.520 a lot of people seem to misunderstand him
00:11:03.000 because he is somebody who wrote Art of the Deal.
00:11:06.060 And it's about coming back with a counteroffer.
00:11:09.840 And right now, Canada does not have a counteroffer.
00:11:12.780 We've left it up to the premiers,
00:11:14.780 to the provinces,
00:11:16.160 and I guess to the Canadian people themselves
00:11:18.480 to figure out how can we counteroffer
00:11:21.660 this obvious bluster and machismo
00:11:26.080 to intimidate us into accepting a position
00:11:30.040 that might not necessarily be in our best interest.
00:11:33.560 And that's where it gets a little bit frustrating
00:11:35.220 because every now and then,
00:11:37.100 people forget,
00:11:38.260 if you want to know what someone's like,
00:11:39.820 listen when they tell you.
00:11:41.420 His book, In Art of the Deal,
00:11:43.380 explains that he will come through
00:11:45.180 like a freight train at first,
00:11:46.900 bull in a china shop,
00:11:47.860 he'll rough you up.
00:11:49.180 He'll get you wondering
00:11:49.880 if you're even in the right room.
00:11:51.500 And then he'll come back
00:11:52.600 with a nicer counteroffer back and forth.
00:11:54.580 And that's in order to destabilize you.
00:11:57.000 So, this has been the way
00:11:58.600 he does business deals very successfully
00:12:00.700 for decades.
00:12:02.240 So, the idea that we'd be caught off base
00:12:04.180 with him saying,
00:12:05.600 hey, you're 51st state
00:12:06.560 and you're our governor now.
00:12:07.840 I liked what Doug Ford,
00:12:09.500 and I'm paraphrasing,
00:12:10.680 he's the Ontario premier, of course.
00:12:13.000 Doug Ford said something
00:12:14.260 along the lines of this
00:12:15.260 when he was on an American TV station.
00:12:17.860 Oh, can we take over Canada?
00:12:20.780 He's like,
00:12:21.120 oh, well, Canada's not for sale,
00:12:22.640 but how about you sell us Alaska instead?
00:12:25.780 That's how you do this.
00:12:27.800 That's how you get past
00:12:29.120 the silliness
00:12:30.280 and the pushing
00:12:31.360 and the shoving
00:12:32.040 and actually get down to brass tacks.
00:12:33.900 Isaac, what was your take on Trump?
00:12:35.900 We also have a cliff of Trump,
00:12:37.560 but this was...
00:12:38.320 Yeah.
00:12:39.440 Quickly, I'll start with Ford
00:12:40.640 because that's where you finished.
00:12:41.680 Obviously, he is the chair
00:12:43.000 of the Council of the Federation,
00:12:44.800 which is the group
00:12:45.540 of Canada's premiers,
00:12:46.480 and he's spoken on their behalf
00:12:49.120 in recent days,
00:12:50.440 specifically basically saying,
00:12:52.540 look, Trudeau has not resigned yet.
00:12:55.000 He still is the lead negotiator
00:12:56.660 for Canada,
00:12:57.140 but he does not have
00:12:58.200 a mandate to do so.
00:12:59.160 He doesn't have a public mandate.
00:13:00.440 The parties are against him.
00:13:02.540 The premiers are essentially
00:13:04.000 going to have to step up
00:13:05.140 in his place
00:13:06.060 and do the negotiations,
00:13:07.280 and Ford, in fact,
00:13:08.680 said he expected the same
00:13:09.880 of municipalities.
00:13:10.760 So, we'll see what that happens,
00:13:13.760 especially with a lot
00:13:14.480 of the premiers
00:13:15.060 assumed to be traveling
00:13:16.180 to the United States
00:13:17.080 for Trump's inauguration date.
00:13:19.420 Maybe they can manage
00:13:21.340 to do some negotiations
00:13:22.520 while they're down there.
00:13:24.520 It's hard to say, though.
00:13:26.620 Let's pull up the Cruz tweet here,
00:13:29.660 or X.
00:13:30.200 What do we call them on X now?
00:13:31.640 Posts?
00:13:32.160 Yeah, I say posts.
00:13:33.340 Posts, X, yeah.
00:13:34.900 Declarations due to Elon.
00:13:36.380 Okay, this is from Ted Cruz.
00:13:38.320 The trucker's convoy
00:13:40.200 was a major reason.
00:13:41.760 Trudeau resigned this week.
00:13:43.420 His repressive policies
00:13:44.820 were so over the top.
00:13:46.860 That was the beginning of the end.
00:13:48.620 I was proud to stand
00:13:50.080 with the truckers.
00:13:51.420 I was not expecting that language
00:13:53.740 because sometimes it's easy
00:13:55.280 up here in Canada
00:13:56.060 to think that people
00:13:57.260 forget about things.
00:13:58.880 And it's impressive
00:14:00.140 that Ted Cruz
00:14:01.240 has not forgotten about that.
00:14:02.580 And again,
00:14:03.260 we have to keep in mind
00:14:04.300 the Emergencies Act
00:14:05.400 was invoked,
00:14:06.960 which is, of course,
00:14:08.000 the modern incarnation
00:14:08.880 of the War Measures Act.
00:14:10.420 So that means that
00:14:11.100 your rights are suspended,
00:14:12.800 you're no longer able
00:14:13.880 to hold your government
00:14:14.780 to account,
00:14:15.480 which is a big problem
00:14:16.220 for taxpayers.
00:14:17.320 And in some cases,
00:14:18.640 the people who were protesting
00:14:19.840 or supporting protesters
00:14:21.520 had their bank accounts frozen,
00:14:24.040 which was an enormous overreach.
00:14:26.260 And the federal court said so.
00:14:28.400 Cosman, were you surprised
00:14:29.400 that Cruz brought it back to that?
00:14:30.800 Honestly, no,
00:14:33.380 I was not surprised
00:14:34.360 because there was so much
00:14:36.000 international attention
00:14:37.540 during the truckers' convoy,
00:14:40.000 particularly in the U.S.
00:14:41.720 There was people,
00:14:43.500 MPs in the U.K.
00:14:45.400 calling for intervention
00:14:46.740 from their own government
00:14:47.900 in Canadian affairs.
00:14:49.900 There was people in Europe,
00:14:51.540 the European Parliament,
00:14:53.240 decrying Justin Trudeau's
00:14:55.940 overreach and trampling
00:14:58.340 of peaceful protesters
00:15:00.260 and this unprecedented use
00:15:02.360 of the Emergencies Act.
00:15:03.680 And in a way, he's right.
00:15:04.900 This was the beginning of the end.
00:15:07.180 This is where
00:15:08.200 the international image
00:15:10.380 that Justin Trudeau
00:15:12.060 and the liberal government projected
00:15:13.960 started to crumble.
00:15:16.340 And what was underneath
00:15:17.660 was way different
00:15:19.620 than what they originally
00:15:21.080 sold themselves as.
00:15:22.540 This is a guy who ran
00:15:24.220 on electoral reform,
00:15:26.100 democracy, etc.,
00:15:27.460 of being, you know,
00:15:28.560 a champion
00:15:29.140 of democratic ideals worldwide,
00:15:31.740 doing the least democratic thing
00:15:34.020 by issuing an executive order
00:15:37.120 to suspend certain rights
00:15:39.400 of people who protested
00:15:41.540 against his COVID pandemic diktats.
00:15:45.000 So this was truly
00:15:47.440 the beginning of the end.
00:15:49.140 And I think whenever people
00:15:50.740 will think of Justin Trudeau
00:15:52.460 in the future,
00:15:53.800 historically speaking,
00:15:55.540 that will be one
00:15:56.740 of the main things
00:15:57.440 that come to mind.
00:15:58.260 Not him legalizing marijuana,
00:16:00.420 not the carbon tax.
00:16:02.460 It will be how he treated
00:16:03.720 his own citizens
00:16:04.660 because it was just
00:16:05.460 such an internationally
00:16:06.980 shocking incident.
00:16:09.700 I will say
00:16:10.660 I've covered him
00:16:11.700 for a long time
00:16:12.580 before he even ran
00:16:14.580 to be a member
00:16:15.140 of parliament.
00:16:16.320 And I didn't see
00:16:18.000 that element of him coming.
00:16:19.720 He was always just
00:16:20.560 this kind of friendly,
00:16:21.640 the sunny ways thing.
00:16:22.560 Remember that?
00:16:23.120 It was really kind of light
00:16:25.920 all the time.
00:16:27.320 I did not see
00:16:28.340 that part of him coming,
00:16:29.740 the language that was used
00:16:31.260 against people
00:16:32.440 in a very divisive manner.
00:16:34.300 And it was leading up
00:16:35.440 to that a little bit.
00:16:36.360 I remember leading up
00:16:37.260 to the convoy
00:16:38.580 trying to take them on
00:16:40.160 over things like
00:16:40.980 a proposed truck tax,
00:16:42.380 for example,
00:16:42.960 a pickup truck tax,
00:16:44.260 increased carbon taxes.
00:16:45.740 And even then
00:16:46.680 they were starting
00:16:47.640 to use nasty language
00:16:49.300 like,
00:16:49.620 oh,
00:16:49.980 you're just
00:16:50.480 this tiny group
00:16:51.540 and this is misinformation
00:16:53.040 and disinformation.
00:16:54.320 Like,
00:16:54.880 what?
00:16:55.240 Like,
00:16:55.400 it's super divisive.
00:16:56.620 And then,
00:16:56.980 of course,
00:16:57.280 that rhetoric
00:16:57.760 just ran off the scale
00:16:58.920 leading up
00:17:00.220 to the trucker convoy.
00:17:01.320 So,
00:17:01.500 yeah,
00:17:01.660 did not see that coming.
00:17:03.340 And I would agree
00:17:04.040 with you
00:17:04.360 that it was
00:17:04.920 kind of the big shift
00:17:06.260 because,
00:17:06.700 of course,
00:17:07.640 we had a change
00:17:08.480 in the conservative party leader
00:17:09.760 right around that time.
00:17:11.260 And it was right
00:17:11.880 around that time
00:17:12.520 that,
00:17:12.900 of course,
00:17:13.160 at the same time
00:17:13.700 we got a new opposition leader.
00:17:15.160 And that's when
00:17:15.660 things started tracking
00:17:16.620 in a wildly
00:17:17.360 different direction.
00:17:18.100 And here we are,
00:17:20.180 hopefully,
00:17:20.940 going to be getting
00:17:21.480 an election soon.
00:17:22.780 Isaac,
00:17:23.340 were you surprised
00:17:24.500 to see Cruz
00:17:25.140 bring it back to that?
00:17:27.780 Yeah,
00:17:28.380 well,
00:17:28.900 firstly,
00:17:29.320 I'll say Cruz,
00:17:30.620 Trump,
00:17:31.120 and,
00:17:31.500 of course,
00:17:31.840 VP J.D. Vance
00:17:33.060 have all historically
00:17:33.960 stood up with truckers.
00:17:35.580 They've been very supportive
00:17:36.760 of them,
00:17:37.600 talking about how
00:17:38.260 they're fighting
00:17:38.660 for freedom
00:17:39.360 against,
00:17:40.180 like,
00:17:40.760 authoritarian measures,
00:17:42.000 against totalitarianism.
00:17:43.480 These are the quotes
00:17:44.040 they've used.
00:17:45.140 In fact,
00:17:45.680 J.D.
00:17:46.040 or,
00:17:46.380 sorry,
00:17:46.620 Ted Cruz
00:17:47.060 went to bat
00:17:47.840 against the Ottawa police
00:17:49.340 during the convoy
00:17:50.820 because the police,
00:17:51.660 essentially,
00:17:52.560 the Ottawa police,
00:17:53.600 threatened its residents
00:17:54.900 saying,
00:17:55.360 look,
00:17:55.540 if you participate
00:17:56.780 in this convoy,
00:17:58.920 we're going to
00:17:59.700 financially attack you.
00:18:01.500 And Cruz said
00:18:02.120 this would not have happened
00:18:03.160 if you had a First Amendment.
00:18:05.060 So,
00:18:05.440 yeah,
00:18:05.740 no,
00:18:05.940 he's historically
00:18:06.600 stood with truckers,
00:18:07.880 so I wouldn't find it
00:18:09.020 too surprising
00:18:09.720 in that sense
00:18:10.320 that he's bringing it back now,
00:18:12.100 especially with the
00:18:13.340 anniversary
00:18:13.840 of the convoy
00:18:14.840 coming up.
00:18:15.320 I think that's on
00:18:16.160 the 22nd of January,
00:18:17.940 if I recall.
00:18:19.060 So,
00:18:19.420 yeah,
00:18:19.740 not all too surprising,
00:18:20.880 no.
00:18:21.500 Wow,
00:18:21.900 it was quite something.
00:18:23.200 Do we want to play
00:18:24.020 the Trump clip here?
00:18:25.720 This is where,
00:18:26.600 so,
00:18:27.380 for folks who don't know,
00:18:28.820 Mar-a-Lago
00:18:29.380 is this kind of old,
00:18:31.240 as far as,
00:18:32.020 as far as the United States
00:18:33.040 goes old.
00:18:33.900 Sorry,
00:18:34.200 Cosmin.
00:18:34.860 Mar-a-Lago
00:18:35.680 is this old mansion
00:18:36.960 and it's often referred to
00:18:38.860 as the Southern White House
00:18:40.100 and Trump has owned it
00:18:41.240 for,
00:18:41.640 I don't know how long.
00:18:42.280 So,
00:18:42.900 he owns it
00:18:43.460 as one of his houses
00:18:44.860 and so what they're doing
00:18:46.200 right now
00:18:46.680 is leading up
00:18:47.440 to the inauguration,
00:18:48.660 they're just getting
00:18:49.180 all these world leaders
00:18:50.140 coming in
00:18:50.760 and all of his
00:18:51.280 different assistants
00:18:51.900 and that
00:18:52.240 and they're basically
00:18:52.900 building what they
00:18:54.080 have to do next
00:18:55.000 and so he actually
00:18:56.280 held a really long
00:18:57.720 press conference,
00:18:58.400 it was over an hour,
00:18:59.380 I listened to a whole
00:19:00.180 thing yesterday,
00:19:01.500 freewheeling,
00:19:02.320 kind of the old
00:19:02.960 Trump coming back,
00:19:04.320 taking on the press corps
00:19:05.340 and he was asked
00:19:07.260 about the Conservative
00:19:09.400 leader and of course
00:19:10.700 we know that's
00:19:11.220 Pierre Polyev,
00:19:12.340 about Polyev pushing
00:19:14.240 back on this whole
00:19:15.140 51st state sort of
00:19:16.680 nonsense.
00:19:17.380 Let's listen to this.
00:19:18.800 Mr. President,
00:19:20.700 if you were working
00:19:21.320 with the assumption
00:19:22.020 that you're serious
00:19:22.860 about making Canada
00:19:23.840 the 51st state
00:19:24.800 of the United States,
00:19:26.320 the leader of the
00:19:27.240 Conservative Party
00:19:27.920 in Canada said
00:19:28.680 under no circumstances
00:19:29.900 it won't ever be
00:19:30.580 the 51st state.
00:19:31.060 Maybe he won't win,
00:19:32.600 but maybe he will.
00:19:33.340 You had suggested
00:19:35.060 you were considering
00:19:38.020 military force
00:19:39.840 to acquire Panama
00:19:41.140 and Greenland.
00:19:42.460 Are you also
00:19:42.880 considering military
00:19:43.880 force to annex
00:19:45.460 and acquire Panama?
00:19:46.140 No, economic force
00:19:47.760 because Canada
00:19:49.460 and the United States,
00:19:50.960 that would really
00:19:52.120 be something.
00:19:55.660 So again,
00:19:57.020 the rhetoric's there,
00:19:58.440 but to me this
00:19:59.360 sounds just like
00:20:00.140 classic Trump.
00:20:01.160 Economic force,
00:20:02.140 that's what a 25%
00:20:03.320 tariff is.
00:20:04.920 And a tariff really
00:20:05.780 is just a tax
00:20:06.480 by another name.
00:20:07.280 It's an import
00:20:07.820 or export tax
00:20:08.780 depending on which
00:20:09.380 way you're going.
00:20:10.380 And it would frankly
00:20:11.340 hurt both sides
00:20:12.320 of the border
00:20:12.740 and it would hurt
00:20:13.400 taxpayers.
00:20:14.720 What was your take
00:20:15.540 on the no,
00:20:16.680 I don't care,
00:20:17.760 Isaac?
00:20:18.880 Yeah,
00:20:19.340 this is actually
00:20:19.920 what I wanted
00:20:20.360 to discuss earlier
00:20:22.000 which kind of
00:20:22.520 slipped my mind
00:20:23.000 at the time.
00:20:23.540 But, you know,
00:20:24.660 leading up to this
00:20:25.480 with the tariffs
00:20:26.320 and whatnot,
00:20:26.860 I really think
00:20:27.740 Canadians,
00:20:28.660 including myself,
00:20:29.380 kind of thought
00:20:29.800 Trump was joking around
00:20:30.780 especially with the
00:20:31.380 annexation.
00:20:32.020 But after watching
00:20:33.140 this clip,
00:20:33.640 I started to realize
00:20:34.820 I don't think
00:20:36.420 he's joking in any way.
00:20:37.740 This guy is
00:20:38.260 dead serious
00:20:39.240 about implementing
00:20:40.060 these tariffs
00:20:40.580 if we don't
00:20:42.600 negotiate with him
00:20:43.680 properly
00:20:44.020 and address
00:20:44.760 the concerns
00:20:45.340 that he has
00:20:45.860 which is drugs
00:20:46.460 flowing over the border,
00:20:47.660 illegal immigration,
00:20:48.740 the lengthy list
00:20:49.480 of things
00:20:49.880 that he's asked for.
00:20:51.080 And also,
00:20:52.660 I think people
00:20:53.160 are starting
00:20:53.480 to realize
00:20:53.940 this is not
00:20:55.560 an option
00:20:56.060 for Canada.
00:20:56.760 We need protection
00:20:57.860 from the United States
00:20:59.000 of America.
00:20:59.880 If we did not
00:21:00.940 have their protection,
00:21:01.640 if they were not
00:21:02.160 our ally,
00:21:02.840 imagine China,
00:21:03.640 imagine Russia
00:21:04.260 coming to our country
00:21:05.420 and taking our stuff.
00:21:06.640 What are we going
00:21:07.360 to do about that?
00:21:08.200 Absolutely nothing.
00:21:09.300 We've reported
00:21:09.940 extensively at True North
00:21:11.200 about the military's
00:21:12.560 many, many issues.
00:21:14.420 We are in no
00:21:15.040 state to defend
00:21:17.160 ourselves.
00:21:17.740 And on top of that,
00:21:19.600 our citizens
00:21:20.180 have no options
00:21:21.420 to defend themselves.
00:21:22.200 We don't really have guns.
00:21:23.040 We don't have any way
00:21:24.420 to fend off an invasion.
00:21:27.020 So, yeah,
00:21:27.820 without the United States,
00:21:29.000 we are sitting ducks.
00:21:31.460 Yeah.
00:21:31.920 Yeah.
00:21:32.720 What was your take
00:21:33.700 on that, Kossin?
00:21:35.840 In a way,
00:21:36.800 Trump is speaking truth
00:21:39.440 that kind of has been ignored
00:21:41.100 by Canadian politicians
00:21:42.860 in the sense that
00:21:43.860 Canada does rely
00:21:45.200 defense-wise
00:21:46.480 on the United States.
00:21:48.400 NORAD, for example.
00:21:50.160 We do not have
00:21:51.160 any military bases,
00:21:53.140 functioning military bases
00:21:54.500 in the Arctic.
00:21:55.800 We couldn't defend
00:21:56.800 the Arctic if,
00:21:58.520 like you said,
00:21:59.300 Russia or China
00:22:00.000 decided to
00:22:01.020 just stake a claim on it.
00:22:02.840 That is a very
00:22:03.800 hotly contested
00:22:05.140 future geopolitical arena
00:22:07.120 that Canada
00:22:08.260 simply does not have
00:22:09.420 the means and ways
00:22:10.640 to hold.
00:22:13.240 And additionally,
00:22:14.080 a lot,
00:22:14.980 you know,
00:22:15.380 it's sad to say,
00:22:17.060 but a lot of
00:22:17.720 our defense
00:22:18.480 decision-making
00:22:19.540 originates in
00:22:20.960 Washington, D.C.
00:22:22.600 Because just simply,
00:22:24.100 we are neighbors
00:22:25.060 to a superpower.
00:22:26.720 That's how it works.
00:22:28.120 We have to
00:22:29.320 at least
00:22:30.360 collaborate
00:22:31.520 and provide assistance
00:22:32.860 to our ally.
00:22:34.360 But that being said,
00:22:36.320 there is an element
00:22:37.600 of indignity
00:22:38.820 that I think
00:22:39.540 Canadians feel
00:22:40.720 when
00:22:41.460 the future president
00:22:43.400 is talking about
00:22:44.640 Canada in this way.
00:22:46.360 Canada as just
00:22:47.480 a share
00:22:48.940 that can be
00:22:49.780 bought and sold.
00:22:50.860 And I don't think
00:22:51.540 Canadians view
00:22:52.460 this country,
00:22:53.320 its history
00:22:53.860 and culture
00:22:54.480 that way.
00:22:55.560 And while I respect
00:22:57.460 the president
00:22:58.360 for taking
00:22:59.200 a vastly
00:23:00.820 different approach
00:23:01.700 to politics
00:23:02.380 that I think
00:23:02.960 a lot of people
00:23:03.540 have been accustomed
00:23:04.300 to this nice,
00:23:05.740 you know,
00:23:06.020 everybody's friends,
00:23:07.340 but when reality
00:23:08.480 comes knocking
00:23:09.260 on the door,
00:23:10.400 there are
00:23:11.120 certain things
00:23:12.280 we have to
00:23:12.940 accept as facts,
00:23:13.880 but at the same time,
00:23:15.520 we must stand up
00:23:16.560 for ourselves.
00:23:17.600 And we don't have
00:23:18.220 a government
00:23:18.640 doing that.
00:23:19.800 Parliament is prorogued.
00:23:21.060 There's nobody
00:23:21.680 on our side
00:23:22.500 of the negotiating table
00:23:23.860 that has stood up
00:23:25.020 as a leader
00:23:25.600 because our leader
00:23:26.780 has decided
00:23:27.820 to duck out
00:23:28.580 of the back door.
00:23:30.520 Yeah,
00:23:31.280 it's prorogued.
00:23:32.240 Everything's shut down.
00:23:33.560 It's not great,
00:23:34.400 I will say.
00:23:35.160 The national narrative,
00:23:36.840 to put it nicely,
00:23:37.560 is not great right now.
00:23:39.100 Like I said,
00:23:39.920 I've followed
00:23:40.280 Trump's work
00:23:40.960 for decades
00:23:41.880 and usually
00:23:44.220 I agree
00:23:44.640 with his idea
00:23:45.440 of, you know,
00:23:45.980 pro-business,
00:23:46.800 lower taxes,
00:23:47.740 smaller government,
00:23:48.520 more freedom,
00:23:49.420 all that sort of stuff.
00:23:50.720 But the
00:23:51.560 I don't care
00:23:52.340 and the repeated
00:23:53.680 language about
00:23:54.400 51st state
00:23:55.220 is starting
00:23:56.100 to annoy me.
00:23:58.300 And if
00:23:59.120 he could tamp
00:24:00.160 that down
00:24:00.640 a little bit,
00:24:01.180 that'd be great.
00:24:01.980 His initial point
00:24:03.260 of saying
00:24:04.480 he wants
00:24:05.220 a better border
00:24:06.000 is a totally
00:24:07.140 legitimate point
00:24:08.160 and it's legitimate
00:24:09.380 on this side
00:24:10.060 of the border too.
00:24:10.960 in Canada
00:24:11.800 because of course
00:24:13.200 we're seeing
00:24:13.740 increased problems
00:24:14.720 of gun crime,
00:24:16.160 especially in our
00:24:17.360 urban cores
00:24:18.040 and in our cities.
00:24:18.980 And guess who
00:24:20.000 gets blamed for that?
00:24:21.760 Law-abiding
00:24:22.880 firearms owners,
00:24:24.120 which the Trudeau
00:24:25.340 government
00:24:25.720 is trying
00:24:26.520 to demonize
00:24:27.440 and they're
00:24:28.220 trying to seize
00:24:29.100 our private property,
00:24:30.440 even though
00:24:31.480 we have border
00:24:32.520 agencies
00:24:33.080 and police
00:24:34.480 saying
00:24:35.320 it's not
00:24:36.360 Canadian firearms
00:24:37.660 owners
00:24:38.200 that are the
00:24:38.640 problem.
00:24:39.300 It's the
00:24:39.780 illegal guns
00:24:40.720 coming across
00:24:41.740 the Canada-US
00:24:42.540 border
00:24:42.960 from the states
00:24:44.140 and elsewhere.
00:24:45.020 So it would
00:24:45.900 benefit both of us
00:24:47.180 if they would
00:24:48.480 clean that up
00:24:49.560 because we'd have
00:24:50.420 the added bonus
00:24:51.120 of not being in
00:24:51.900 the middle
00:24:52.200 of a trade war
00:24:53.540 with Donald Trump.
00:24:55.500 So yeah,
00:24:55.920 so much stuff
00:24:56.780 going on.
00:24:57.480 Do we want to
00:24:58.020 move to the
00:24:58.680 actual liberal
00:24:59.440 leadership race
00:25:00.160 now?
00:25:00.400 This is super
00:25:03.760 fun.
00:25:04.280 So I think
00:25:05.280 this was your
00:25:05.840 surprise,
00:25:06.480 because it was
00:25:07.620 hilarious.
00:25:08.900 I hadn't seen
00:25:09.760 this yet,
00:25:10.380 so I apologize.
00:25:11.260 You surprised
00:25:11.740 me with it.
00:25:12.420 Is the top
00:25:13.300 none of the
00:25:14.440 above with
00:25:15.020 liberals?
00:25:15.620 What's going
00:25:16.040 on?
00:25:16.500 Yeah,
00:25:16.640 so we could
00:25:17.920 obviously sit
00:25:18.460 and talk for
00:25:18.840 the last story
00:25:19.320 forever,
00:25:19.760 but hopping
00:25:20.140 to this,
00:25:21.480 so there's
00:25:22.060 this recurring
00:25:22.760 poll,
00:25:23.860 and in the
00:25:24.140 most recent
00:25:24.700 rendition,
00:25:26.900 the top pick
00:25:27.860 for Canadians
00:25:28.640 for who to
00:25:29.420 become leader
00:25:30.160 of the Liberal
00:25:30.680 Party.
00:25:31.140 Yes,
00:25:31.380 the top pick
00:25:31.900 was none
00:25:32.500 of the above.
00:25:34.140 In second
00:25:34.940 place,
00:25:35.700 following none
00:25:37.180 of the above
00:25:37.860 was Chrystia
00:25:38.700 Freeland,
00:25:39.820 then following
00:25:40.540 her was Mark
00:25:41.140 Carney,
00:25:41.580 and fourth
00:25:41.920 place,
00:25:42.300 this is another
00:25:42.740 one,
00:25:43.000 was unsure.
00:25:45.080 Trudeau was
00:25:45.660 tied,
00:25:46.540 he tied for
00:25:47.600 fifth with
00:25:48.060 other,
00:25:50.180 and six,
00:25:50.840 so six
00:25:51.280 percent of
00:25:51.700 Canadians
00:25:52.020 chose each
00:25:52.460 of those,
00:25:52.960 and then
00:25:53.240 Sean Frazier
00:25:54.100 and Anita
00:25:54.560 Anand were
00:25:55.680 tied for last
00:25:56.440 place with
00:25:57.040 two percent
00:25:57.480 of approval,
00:25:58.840 and as I
00:25:59.840 said,
00:26:00.100 this survey
00:26:00.500 had been
00:26:00.980 taking place
00:26:01.920 over the
00:26:02.540 last several
00:26:03.600 years,
00:26:04.120 and surprisingly,
00:26:05.620 actually,
00:26:06.120 none of the
00:26:06.520 above was
00:26:07.080 the top
00:26:07.500 choice in
00:26:07.980 every single
00:26:09.020 edition of
00:26:10.200 the survey.
00:26:12.040 So,
00:26:12.600 I mean,
00:26:13.200 this just
00:26:13.700 really shows
00:26:14.280 that the
00:26:14.980 existing Liberal
00:26:16.420 MPs at this
00:26:17.020 point should
00:26:17.420 know,
00:26:17.720 because this
00:26:17.960 year has been
00:26:18.360 going,
00:26:18.680 or sorry,
00:26:19.100 this survey
00:26:19.480 has been going
00:26:19.920 on for years,
00:26:20.820 that Canadians
00:26:22.200 don't want any
00:26:23.420 of them to
00:26:24.080 represent them
00:26:24.740 because they're
00:26:25.260 literally choosing
00:26:26.100 none of the
00:26:26.980 above over
00:26:28.500 any existing
00:26:30.000 Liberal MP,
00:26:30.940 that's the
00:26:31.480 option.
00:26:32.840 And Trudeau
00:26:33.240 was on the
00:26:33.720 list too,
00:26:34.200 though he may
00:26:34.580 not actually
00:26:35.080 take part in
00:26:35.620 this leadership
00:26:36.060 election,
00:26:36.580 but for
00:26:37.240 previous ones,
00:26:38.220 he certainly
00:26:38.660 was on the
00:26:39.740 list,
00:26:40.060 and he's
00:26:40.620 been hovering
00:26:41.000 around 10%,
00:26:42.100 but he reached
00:26:44.160 a record low
00:26:44.820 in this newest
00:26:46.100 rendition of the
00:26:46.960 survey that just
00:26:47.560 came out a few
00:26:48.440 days ago,
00:26:49.500 and this
00:26:50.440 paired with a
00:26:51.580 separate poll
00:26:52.080 where we saw
00:26:52.880 Trudeau start
00:26:54.460 the new year
00:26:54.960 with a record
00:26:55.540 low approval
00:26:56.360 rating,
00:26:56.880 and his party
00:26:57.800 polling worse
00:26:58.460 than it has
00:26:59.040 in its 157
00:27:00.540 year history.
00:27:01.640 So, I mean,
00:27:02.420 the Liberal
00:27:02.840 Party's in
00:27:03.420 shambles,
00:27:04.180 and clearly
00:27:05.360 Canadians don't
00:27:06.400 think that there
00:27:07.060 is a suitable
00:27:08.960 replacement on
00:27:09.740 the table.
00:27:10.740 How do you
00:27:11.260 guys think
00:27:11.700 that Liberal
00:27:13.220 MPs should be
00:27:13.960 taking this,
00:27:14.640 seeing that
00:27:15.180 Canadians are
00:27:15.900 more likely to
00:27:16.500 choose nobody
00:27:17.360 than them to
00:27:18.960 represent the
00:27:19.640 party heading
00:27:20.340 into this
00:27:20.860 leadership election?
00:27:22.980 Kalsman?
00:27:23.300 Yeah, there
00:27:25.920 should be some
00:27:26.800 element of
00:27:27.620 reflection as
00:27:28.620 to how much
00:27:30.120 of a personality
00:27:31.160 cult the Liberal
00:27:32.420 brand has
00:27:33.140 become.
00:27:33.900 It has become
00:27:35.040 totally tied to
00:27:36.680 the person, to
00:27:37.860 the individual of
00:27:39.140 Justin Trudeau,
00:27:40.860 and for a while
00:27:42.380 we've known
00:27:43.100 Justin Trudeau as
00:27:44.400 Teflon Trudeau.
00:27:45.460 He could do
00:27:45.880 anything and it
00:27:47.420 would just slide
00:27:48.060 off him, but
00:27:49.200 that armor has
00:27:50.420 rusted, and all
00:27:52.180 of his mistakes,
00:27:53.760 all of his
00:27:54.420 overreaches, all
00:27:55.660 of his scandals
00:27:56.600 are underneath
00:27:58.460 that Teflon
00:27:59.460 layer and
00:28:00.120 they're starting
00:28:00.700 to really,
00:28:02.100 really show
00:28:02.680 through.
00:28:03.820 And when you
00:28:04.280 compare it to
00:28:05.200 2015, I
00:28:06.820 recall back
00:28:07.740 when Justin
00:28:08.800 Trudeau, even
00:28:10.380 before that,
00:28:11.000 just became the
00:28:11.960 Liberal leader,
00:28:13.060 and not to
00:28:14.120 sound too much
00:28:15.480 like a young
00:28:16.960 person or Gen
00:28:17.960 Z, but the
00:28:18.800 vibes, there
00:28:20.220 were vibes there,
00:28:21.180 there was a
00:28:21.800 vitality, an
00:28:23.180 energy, a
00:28:24.580 sort of
00:28:25.280 momentum that
00:28:27.040 Trudeau picked
00:28:27.880 up on, especially
00:28:29.140 among young
00:28:29.900 people, that is
00:28:31.160 totally lost, and
00:28:32.260 you don't see it
00:28:33.460 with any candidate
00:28:34.360 on the Liberal
00:28:35.140 side.
00:28:35.960 There's no single
00:28:37.040 individual who
00:28:38.660 you can point
00:28:39.460 to that is
00:28:40.700 stepping up and
00:28:42.300 appearing
00:28:43.680 different, giving
00:28:44.960 an alternative to
00:28:46.260 what the Liberals
00:28:46.920 have been for
00:28:47.800 the last 9-10
00:28:48.900 years.
00:28:49.360 So, again,
00:28:51.200 they've lost the
00:28:51.940 vibes, there's
00:28:52.580 no energy there
00:28:53.500 anymore, and
00:28:54.460 it's totally
00:28:55.020 shifted to
00:28:56.400 Pierre Polyev, as
00:28:57.680 the polls
00:28:58.320 indicate, and
00:28:59.680 especially among
00:29:00.780 young voters.
00:29:01.980 Even the NDP
00:29:02.900 don't have
00:29:04.020 traction with
00:29:05.160 younger voters
00:29:05.980 who really have
00:29:07.940 been among the
00:29:09.720 worst hit by the
00:29:11.220 9 years of
00:29:11.920 Justin Trudeau.
00:29:12.740 They've had their
00:29:13.440 entire futures
00:29:15.040 robbed from them,
00:29:16.340 and they are
00:29:17.460 going to make
00:29:18.700 that known when
00:29:19.880 they go to the
00:29:20.520 ballot.
00:29:21.820 Yeah, I think
00:29:22.860 this poll might
00:29:25.340 be showing that
00:29:27.120 Canadians agree
00:29:28.140 with the stance
00:29:28.980 that the
00:29:29.540 Conservative Party
00:29:30.240 of Canada has
00:29:31.060 taken against
00:29:31.920 the Liberals in
00:29:32.540 their upcoming
00:29:32.980 leadership election.
00:29:34.060 They've basically
00:29:34.480 said, look, look
00:29:36.740 at all the MPs
00:29:37.620 that are potential
00:29:38.920 leadership candidates,
00:29:40.040 it's all Justin
00:29:41.000 Trudeau's posse.
00:29:41.980 Don't forget,
00:29:42.680 this is not
00:29:43.840 changing who the
00:29:44.740 Liberal, or sorry,
00:29:45.680 who the Liberal
00:29:46.280 Party are as
00:29:47.400 an entity, what
00:29:48.640 they've become as
00:29:49.500 an ideology, and
00:29:51.100 that's what the
00:29:51.500 Conservatives have
00:29:52.000 been saying, like,
00:29:52.880 the Liberal Party
00:29:53.560 is the Liberal
00:29:53.960 Party, this is
00:29:54.680 Justin Trudeau's
00:29:55.340 Liberal Party, none
00:29:56.740 of these potential
00:29:57.540 MPs are changing
00:29:58.520 that image, and
00:29:59.160 clearly Canadians
00:30:00.380 agree, saying that
00:30:01.220 they don't want
00:30:01.960 anything to do
00:30:03.100 with that party or
00:30:04.060 its existing MPs.
00:30:06.240 Yeah, it's
00:30:07.040 definitely a changed
00:30:08.120 atmosphere.
00:30:09.160 I remember when
00:30:10.260 the members of
00:30:11.320 Parliament and the
00:30:12.100 opposition Liberals
00:30:13.240 were getting Trudeau
00:30:14.240 to run for
00:30:14.920 leader.
00:30:15.680 And they were
00:30:16.480 all kind of
00:30:16.900 rallying around
00:30:17.600 him, and they
00:30:17.980 were handing out
00:30:18.500 this pin.
00:30:19.620 It was going
00:30:20.100 everywhere, all
00:30:21.000 through the foyer
00:30:21.580 of the House
00:30:22.040 of Commons.
00:30:23.120 And there was
00:30:24.000 excitement, there
00:30:24.980 was this kind of
00:30:25.540 strange optimism.
00:30:26.800 I always found it
00:30:27.560 a little bit silly
00:30:28.220 because I think
00:30:29.080 politics is about
00:30:29.980 other people's
00:30:30.640 lives, and I
00:30:31.840 don't think it
00:30:32.320 should be this
00:30:32.940 kind of silly
00:30:33.500 sport all the
00:30:34.360 time.
00:30:34.960 But I do hang
00:30:35.800 on to some of
00:30:36.280 the stuff for
00:30:37.060 old time's sake.
00:30:38.360 It has changed a
00:30:39.660 lot, and it's
00:30:40.880 for the worse.
00:30:42.080 We've got, the
00:30:42.740 debt has been
00:30:43.680 doubled by this
00:30:45.120 government.
00:30:45.760 We've got runaway
00:30:46.960 inflation.
00:30:47.820 Again, this is the
00:30:49.000 fault of the
00:30:49.440 government because
00:30:50.660 they've printed
00:30:51.400 hundreds of
00:30:52.080 billions of
00:30:52.640 dollars out of
00:30:53.340 thin air, too
00:30:54.340 many dollars
00:30:54.900 chasing too few
00:30:55.820 things, as it is
00:30:56.840 put.
00:30:57.600 We've got massive
00:30:58.680 censorship.
00:31:00.020 Okay?
00:31:00.680 They tried
00:31:01.320 ramming through
00:31:01.920 Bill C-63, and
00:31:03.180 at the very last
00:31:03.880 second, thankfully,
00:31:04.760 it's gone.
00:31:05.520 But that would
00:31:06.200 have been
00:31:06.480 criminalizing people's
00:31:07.740 online expression,
00:31:08.900 both in the past
00:31:09.720 end in the
00:31:10.320 future, anonymously.
00:31:12.040 Like, that bill
00:31:12.640 was crazy.
00:31:14.080 We've got Bill
00:31:14.840 C-11, which
00:31:15.660 already went into
00:31:16.640 play, which is
00:31:17.360 going to be
00:31:17.920 affecting podcasts
00:31:19.200 even.
00:31:19.860 It's going to be
00:31:20.260 affecting alternative
00:31:21.060 media because the
00:31:22.460 government wants to
00:31:23.300 be able to decide
00:31:24.120 what other people
00:31:25.040 can see, hear, and
00:31:26.000 say on the
00:31:26.640 internet.
00:31:27.600 We've got a gun
00:31:29.400 seizure.
00:31:30.360 It's outrageous
00:31:31.200 what is going on.
00:31:32.500 Like, pretty much
00:31:33.060 everywhere you look
00:31:34.220 in Canada, where
00:31:36.140 the federal
00:31:36.660 government has an
00:31:38.080 effect on it.
00:31:39.240 It's a mess.
00:31:40.900 And then, of
00:31:41.340 course, we have
00:31:42.440 got the carbon
00:31:43.180 tax set to go
00:31:44.740 up again on
00:31:45.620 April 1st.
00:31:46.320 And this is
00:31:46.680 something, if you
00:31:47.260 don't mind me
00:31:47.740 tooting my horn,
00:31:48.780 there's a little
00:31:49.780 image here from
00:31:50.760 where I had put it
00:31:51.480 in the Toronto
00:31:51.980 Sun.
00:31:52.760 And we're trying
00:31:53.540 to implore the
00:31:55.000 liberal leaders to
00:31:56.740 disavow the carbon
00:31:58.140 tax, that now is
00:31:59.180 the time.
00:32:00.160 This carbon tax is
00:32:01.160 wildly unpopular.
00:32:02.780 Last year, this
00:32:03.660 time, when they were
00:32:04.540 going to have an
00:32:05.100 increase, 70% of
00:32:06.740 Canadians said they
00:32:07.740 were against it.
00:32:08.680 70%.
00:32:09.300 So, imagine you're
00:32:11.100 the new liberal
00:32:11.720 leader.
00:32:12.540 You're minted.
00:32:13.360 You're sitting down
00:32:14.120 there on March 24th
00:32:15.660 in Parliament.
00:32:17.080 One week later, you
00:32:18.200 crank up the carbon
00:32:19.080 tax and then you
00:32:20.200 hit the campaign
00:32:20.960 trail.
00:32:22.580 Knock, knock.
00:32:23.340 Who's there?
00:32:24.200 Carbon tax hike.
00:32:25.220 Can I have your
00:32:25.820 vote?
00:32:26.800 Like, are you
00:32:27.920 crazy?
00:32:28.840 That would be
00:32:29.440 madness.
00:32:30.320 So, we're
00:32:30.820 encouraging all of
00:32:32.800 the liberals to
00:32:33.640 come back from the
00:32:34.400 brink now and
00:32:35.420 disavow themselves of
00:32:36.520 this terrible,
00:32:37.260 expensive failure.
00:32:38.140 I don't think it'll
00:32:38.640 change things because,
00:32:39.980 to your point, both of
00:32:40.920 you, I think this has
00:32:42.560 been kind of a team
00:32:43.480 Trudeau, like the
00:32:44.280 button says.
00:32:45.280 This is no longer
00:32:46.140 kind of the John
00:32:47.520 Manley, Paul Martin,
00:32:48.920 that sort of more
00:32:49.680 serious liberal
00:32:50.480 government when they
00:32:51.640 balance the budget.
00:32:52.940 Totally different form
00:32:54.000 of a liberal
00:32:54.420 government.
00:32:56.180 Cosmin, you had an
00:32:57.840 issue where you were
00:32:58.540 raising about foreign
00:32:59.620 actors playing a role
00:33:00.960 here in the liberal
00:33:01.880 leadership, but I
00:33:02.580 haven't been keeping up
00:33:03.340 with that element.
00:33:04.220 Could you fill us in?
00:33:06.460 Right.
00:33:06.880 So, I interviewed or
00:33:08.680 just had a quick
00:33:09.980 discussion with the
00:33:11.200 former chair of the
00:33:12.440 organizing committee of
00:33:13.640 the conservative
00:33:14.260 leadership contest that
00:33:16.360 saw Pierre Polyev elected
00:33:18.460 and he pointed out that
00:33:22.440 the way the Liberal Party
00:33:24.040 of Canada's membership
00:33:25.240 rules work is that
00:33:27.580 anybody residing within
00:33:29.960 Canada can become a
00:33:33.020 Liberal Party member.
00:33:35.080 That doesn't mean they
00:33:36.460 have to be Canadian
00:33:37.360 citizens.
00:33:38.220 That doesn't mean they
00:33:39.060 have to be permanent
00:33:39.920 residents, but anybody
00:33:41.120 who has their feet on
00:33:43.160 the soil in Canada can
00:33:45.920 become a Liberal Party
00:33:47.460 member.
00:33:48.120 And if you're a member,
00:33:48.900 that means you can vote
00:33:50.020 in nomination processes.
00:33:51.320 You can vote on
00:33:52.880 leadership elections.
00:33:54.820 And he's not the only
00:33:56.480 one to raise awareness
00:33:57.920 about this.
00:33:58.640 CSIS brought it up
00:34:00.620 back when the
00:34:01.520 Handong allegations of
00:34:03.400 Chinese seniors being
00:34:05.660 bused to his
00:34:06.320 nomination meeting
00:34:09.560 ended up taking place.
00:34:12.080 It was also a warning
00:34:13.740 by the Elections
00:34:15.180 Commissioner of Canada
00:34:16.360 saying that they should
00:34:17.860 change their rules to
00:34:19.300 avoid foreign
00:34:20.120 interference in their
00:34:21.860 leadership and
00:34:23.460 nomination selection
00:34:24.700 process.
00:34:25.440 So this is a huge
00:34:28.240 problem because, you
00:34:30.440 know, the chances
00:34:31.720 might be slim, but if
00:34:32.900 another Liberal Party
00:34:33.980 leader becomes Prime
00:34:36.100 Minister again, there
00:34:37.800 is a very, very
00:34:39.900 significant and
00:34:40.960 realistic likelihood
00:34:42.260 that there could be
00:34:44.300 more foreign meddling
00:34:46.260 involved.
00:34:47.540 There's no backstop
00:34:49.220 or checks on this.
00:34:50.460 people have been
00:34:51.920 playing around online
00:34:52.980 on social media right
00:34:54.080 now, signing up
00:34:55.820 under all sorts of
00:34:57.220 ridiculous names to
00:34:58.240 Liberal Party
00:34:58.800 membership.
00:34:59.700 As Xi Jinping, they
00:35:00.960 put, like, the
00:35:01.760 address of the
00:35:03.440 Chinese consulate as
00:35:05.020 their address, and
00:35:06.400 there's no way to
00:35:07.400 verify it or to tell
00:35:09.040 if these are fake
00:35:09.880 registrations, and
00:35:11.820 it's a serious
00:35:12.740 problem because the
00:35:14.280 Liberal Party, whether
00:35:15.340 we like it or not, is
00:35:17.060 a significant force in
00:35:19.540 Canadian politics and
00:35:21.180 political history, and
00:35:22.280 when a major party has
00:35:24.040 this vulnerability in
00:35:25.320 place, it's seriously
00:35:27.780 an issue that affects
00:35:29.320 everybody because
00:35:30.220 foreign meddling means
00:35:32.180 that our sovereignty is
00:35:34.240 directly under attack.
00:35:35.540 People's choices are
00:35:36.660 being swayed by forces
00:35:38.820 they don't even know
00:35:40.040 of.
00:35:41.020 And to your point, it
00:35:43.140 isn't a maybe.
00:35:44.760 The next Liberal Party
00:35:46.480 leader will be Prime
00:35:48.200 Minister.
00:35:48.600 It may just be for a
00:35:50.600 week.
00:35:51.080 Absolutely right.
00:35:52.040 So that is, wow, I
00:35:53.740 did not realize that it
00:35:55.440 was to this extent where
00:35:57.060 you have to have, pardon
00:35:59.220 the phrase, two feet in
00:36:00.420 a heartbeat, and you have
00:36:01.580 to be standing in Canada,
00:36:03.240 and then I can become a
00:36:04.760 member and then
00:36:05.360 participate?
00:36:06.020 Is that what you're
00:36:06.460 saying?
00:36:07.660 That's right.
00:36:08.340 There's no permanent
00:36:10.160 residency or citizenship
00:36:11.420 requirements, whereas in
00:36:13.960 contrast, the Conservative
00:36:15.500 Party of Canada requires
00:36:17.600 you to show that you're a
00:36:19.400 citizen or at least a
00:36:21.280 permanent resident to be
00:36:22.640 able to vote, become a
00:36:24.760 member and vote within
00:36:25.760 their internal processes
00:36:27.040 and have a say in party
00:36:29.000 matters.
00:36:29.940 So this is a weird
00:36:31.200 situation.
00:36:31.800 Again, what I was just
00:36:33.700 mentioning there of the
00:36:35.000 next Liberal Party leader
00:36:36.500 will be the Prime Minister
00:36:38.760 of Canada.
00:36:39.380 I know this sounds weird,
00:36:42.160 okay, but once Trudeau
00:36:43.740 resigns and the new Liberal
00:36:45.860 Party leader is named, you
00:36:48.840 don't need to be a member of
00:36:50.380 Parliament to be a member of
00:36:52.480 Cabinet.
00:36:53.740 And the Prime Minister is the
00:36:56.680 first minister in the Cabinet
00:36:59.120 who reports to the Crown.
00:37:02.380 That's how this works.
00:37:04.180 That's why they're all called
00:37:05.240 ministers.
00:37:05.640 And just to throw a pop
00:37:07.880 culture reference, right, we
00:37:09.400 have a Manchurian candidate
00:37:11.040 situation here where you
00:37:12.960 could effectively, not even
00:37:15.360 just one candidate, multiple
00:37:17.000 candidates, we could have a
00:37:18.880 free-for-all of foreign
00:37:20.540 influence candidates running
00:37:22.380 for the Liberal leadership, not
00:37:24.140 a single one perhaps
00:37:25.580 representing the true values or
00:37:27.760 at least having their opinions
00:37:29.600 skewed or shaped in such a way
00:37:32.280 that it doesn't benefit us, but
00:37:33.900 it benefits a shadowy foreign
00:37:36.760 actor.
00:37:38.760 You know, I thought it was
00:37:39.880 weird enough when I was
00:37:40.760 reading about it in one of the
00:37:42.240 broadsheets and they were
00:37:43.800 pointing out that, so for
00:37:44.840 example, you know, Christy
00:37:45.840 Clark, former BC Premier,
00:37:47.540 doesn't have a seat in the
00:37:48.880 House.
00:37:50.120 If she won, she would still
00:37:51.760 technically be Prime Minister
00:37:52.960 though.
00:37:53.620 Same sort of thing if it were
00:37:54.440 Mark Carney who doesn't have a
00:37:55.640 seat in the House.
00:37:56.460 Same thing.
00:37:57.500 Because they would be the
00:37:58.640 Prime Minister.
00:37:59.980 I hadn't thought about the
00:38:01.600 actual elements of the people
00:38:03.700 registering and voting and
00:38:05.200 all of, wow, that's quite
00:38:06.480 something.
00:38:07.260 Have we heard, sorry to put
00:38:08.220 you on the spot, but have we
00:38:10.060 heard any grown-ups talking
00:38:11.420 about this in a serious
00:38:12.580 manner that could actually
00:38:13.720 rein this in or fix it
00:38:14.940 before it happens?
00:38:17.340 Yeah, so the latest report
00:38:19.180 I've seen from the CBC
00:38:20.580 indicates that the Liberals are
00:38:23.680 not intending to change their
00:38:25.140 membership rules.
00:38:26.240 They've shown no indication of
00:38:28.200 changing the membership rules.
00:38:29.680 although I will add they have
00:38:32.000 not released their leadership
00:38:33.980 election rules yet.
00:38:35.400 So there could be certain
00:38:37.820 stipulations that they add to
00:38:40.040 the Liberal leadership election
00:38:41.900 process that has extra
00:38:44.300 requirements on what sort of
00:38:46.400 members can vote.
00:38:48.460 But we haven't seen those yet.
00:38:50.640 Obviously the Liberals are
00:38:51.740 rushing to put together a last
00:38:53.840 minute Liberal leadership race.
00:38:55.940 So until that's out, we don't
00:38:58.000 really know the full extent of
00:38:59.880 it.
00:39:00.300 It would be, it would surprise
00:39:01.440 me, honestly, if they don't
00:39:02.580 fix this because the
00:39:04.080 establishment people have been
00:39:05.480 in the game for decades.
00:39:07.100 They don't want their arena
00:39:09.080 torched by some outside
00:39:10.740 influence and have their own
00:39:12.060 influence be gone.
00:39:13.140 Like this is part of, you know,
00:39:14.480 self-preservation as well as
00:39:16.520 making sure that it's Canadians
00:39:17.820 who have a say as who gets to
00:39:20.000 actually lead us and govern us.
00:39:21.440 Did we want to get to our really
00:39:22.840 fun kicker in Ottawa where you're
00:39:25.120 no longer allowed to idle your
00:39:26.460 vehicle or Isaac, did you have?
00:39:27.680 Yeah, let me just say two
00:39:29.160 things on this story quick.
00:39:30.900 Cosmin already used the good
00:39:32.060 Xi Jinping example, but I saw
00:39:34.000 another one because you said
00:39:34.980 you have to be standing in
00:39:35.820 Canada.
00:39:36.120 I'm not sure that's true
00:39:36.980 because someone was saying they
00:39:38.060 were in Europe and used a fake
00:39:41.040 name to apply to the leadership
00:39:43.800 party.
00:39:44.340 I mean, this is ridiculous.
00:39:45.740 How are the proper checks and
00:39:46.880 balances not in place?
00:39:47.800 A junior level coder could create
00:39:51.380 bots to manipulate this.
00:39:53.700 You don't have to be a tech
00:39:54.640 genius.
00:39:55.280 I mean, this is ridiculous.
00:39:56.200 The fact that you couldn't stop
00:39:57.860 that level, let alone an actual,
00:40:00.500 let's say, someone who has tech
00:40:02.520 experience.
00:40:03.120 I mean, imagine how easily you
00:40:04.540 could manipulate this process.
00:40:06.740 They definitely, I think I'll agree
00:40:08.880 with you, Chris.
00:40:09.420 They have to do something.
00:40:10.900 I mean, this is such Bush
00:40:12.760 League, literally Bush League.
00:40:15.380 I mean, what else can you really
00:40:16.620 say?
00:40:16.960 Like this is, I mean, it's child's
00:40:18.820 play to exploit.
00:40:20.040 You can't possibly have something
00:40:21.580 this easily exploitable at the
00:40:24.000 federal level.
00:40:25.620 But yeah, before I get too heated
00:40:27.140 with that, let's end with this,
00:40:31.880 which is a change we saw in Ottawa,
00:40:35.580 where yes, even if they pass their
00:40:38.240 coldest temperature ever, which is
00:40:39.620 minus 39 degrees.
00:40:40.840 I know if you live in Alberta, you
00:40:42.020 think that's it.
00:40:43.000 I mean, I think that happened last
00:40:44.160 weekend.
00:40:45.420 Residents will be unable to idle their
00:40:48.720 vehicle for more than one minute an
00:40:50.420 hour going forward.
00:40:51.960 This is irrespective of the
00:40:53.120 temperature.
00:40:54.640 So the city of Ottawa, they made
00:40:56.420 these bylaw changes that are coming
00:40:58.560 into effect just this January and
00:41:00.740 the new year, which weirdly followed
00:41:04.220 some research that showed that
00:41:06.300 people in Ottawa might not even agree
00:41:08.960 with the change.
00:41:09.700 So I don't know how they determined
00:41:12.260 that they should make these changes
00:41:13.600 despite them using research that
00:41:16.040 showed the contrary.
00:41:17.380 Uh, yeah, also this, this is for
00:41:23.960 unoccupied vehicles, but you won't be
00:41:25.620 able to idle for more than three
00:41:26.940 minutes, an hour in an occupied
00:41:28.540 vehicle when the temperature is
00:41:30.500 between zero and 27 degrees Celsius.
00:41:32.920 So hopefully they don't get stuck in
00:41:34.960 any traffic because idling for more
00:41:38.640 than three hours.
00:41:39.200 And I mean, come on, how would you even
00:41:40.340 enforce this?
00:41:40.920 This is ridiculous.
00:41:42.020 Oh, just watch them.
00:41:43.920 Yeah.
00:41:44.820 And so, uh, but, but, but it gets
00:41:47.020 better, Chris, when it's, uh, when
00:41:48.860 it's below zero degrees or above 27,
00:41:51.120 you're allowed to idle in an occupied
00:41:52.760 vehicle for 10 minutes, an hour.
00:41:54.620 So, uh, in, in the, in the minus 50,
00:41:56.940 if you were inside your vehicle, you're
00:41:58.300 allowed to idle for 10 minutes, an
00:41:59.480 hour.
00:41:59.640 But once that clock strikes 11 minutes,
00:42:01.780 even if it's minus 50, I mean, you're
00:42:03.100 going to have to turn that car off and
00:42:04.620 just, uh, take your best bet with, uh,
00:42:07.220 with mother nature.
00:42:08.120 Uh, good luck in that one.
00:42:09.540 If you're in Ottawa, because I wouldn't
00:42:12.000 be playing around in temperatures like
00:42:13.720 that.
00:42:14.380 Uh, I mean, what's, what's up with this
00:42:17.080 bylaw guys, what do you think?
00:42:18.320 Especially with the update, because, uh,
00:42:20.960 in the prior, in the prior version of
00:42:23.580 the bylaw, uh, these rules were not in
00:42:25.900 place if it was below zero degrees or
00:42:27.880 above 27, meaning over half the year was
00:42:30.560 exempt from this bylaw.
00:42:31.580 But obviously this takes that completely
00:42:33.120 out of the equation.
00:42:35.420 Cause and I'll let you have first kick.
00:42:37.120 Thanks, Chris.
00:42:39.300 Although I think you could speak better
00:42:40.740 to this topic than I could, but when
00:42:43.560 bureaucrats and municipalities need to
00:42:46.840 find ways to get money out of taxpayers,
00:42:49.940 they will come up with invent all sorts of
00:42:53.080 inventive ways to do so.
00:42:54.840 And there's no better thing or a slush
00:42:58.520 fund rather than the climate, uh, you
00:43:01.520 know, emergency and sort of the need to
00:43:03.620 save the climate and play people's
00:43:05.320 heartstrings.
00:43:05.920 And this is what I think it is.
00:43:08.020 Ottawa needs money.
00:43:09.540 They have to find new ways to get money.
00:43:12.140 They can't raise property taxes all the
00:43:14.560 time on people.
00:43:15.560 It's extremely unpopular.
00:43:17.300 So they try to hide in these little ways that
00:43:20.500 bylaw officers can go out and ticket people and, and
00:43:23.540 cite these, uh, obscene and ridiculous, uh, totally
00:43:28.100 detached from reality procedures and laws.
00:43:31.920 Because I don't know about you, but when I'm out
00:43:34.460 there, I don't really see on the roads, people
00:43:37.480 idling that much.
00:43:38.600 I think people try to reduce their idling amount.
00:43:41.560 Sure.
00:43:42.060 In the morning, you know, if it's minus 20 plus
00:43:45.360 degrees, you might go out, turn on your car or do it
00:43:47.940 from your window.
00:43:48.540 If you have a fancy automatic start and let your car heat
00:43:52.160 up for a couple minutes before you hop in and drive to work.
00:43:56.220 But I just don't see the, that it, this is as such a huge issue
00:44:01.600 that it requires enforcement people making things more expensive for people.
00:44:06.900 You know, people deal with tickets all of the time, parking tickets,
00:44:10.260 unfair speeding tickets, but having to deal with an additional concern,
00:44:15.980 having a bylaw officer knock on your door while you're getting ready to go to work
00:44:20.340 and pay your taxes because you left your car on for a little bit and wanted to heat
00:44:26.220 it up, but maybe for your, you know, three-year-old child that you're trying to
00:44:29.340 take to daycare.
00:44:30.340 So they're not freezing all the way there.
00:44:32.700 Now, now you're in trouble, right?
00:44:35.340 This to me is classic Ottawa.
00:44:38.160 Uh, Ottawa is the center of big government.
00:44:42.340 There is not a regulation or a little foot force that they have not met that they have
00:44:47.220 not loved. If you walk around Ottawa, every tree has a metal tag on it.
00:44:54.300 So that their parks and rec police also known as the NCC can keep track of it,
00:44:59.860 which by the way, of course, taxpayers pay for fully.
00:45:02.460 Um, Ottawa can become a joke of itself.
00:45:05.860 It loves to expand the role of government to get up into your grill,
00:45:11.700 to nickel and dime you and to virtue signal.
00:45:14.660 They get to do all of this at the same time with this thing.
00:45:18.520 And I am surprised that the folks in Ottawa are putting up with this because it's not
00:45:24.200 just the downtown bureaucrats that were so frightened of, you know, honking for a little
00:45:28.640 while that live there.
00:45:29.780 There are a ton of good, hardworking people that live in that area.
00:45:34.700 They used to listen to my old radio station, CFRA.
00:45:37.460 They'd live out to Arnpire.
00:45:38.980 They'd go down to CARP.
00:45:39.960 They were down the Ottawa Valley.
00:45:41.780 Lots of working class folks who don't like this nonsense.
00:45:46.400 And here we go.
00:45:47.520 This is classic Ottawa.
00:45:48.680 People might remember Ottawa was the city that was ticketing and fining little girls
00:45:55.320 for setting up a lemonade stand.
00:45:58.880 I kid you not.
00:46:00.560 And the reason I'm so ticked off about this is one,
00:46:03.200 obviously the infringement on somebody's personal freedom, like go fly a kite.
00:46:07.240 Yeah, I've got my car idling because it's minus 30.
00:46:10.820 Go away.
00:46:11.980 Number two, huge cost.
00:46:14.140 They're going to have all these little bylaw officers and they're going to be testing.
00:46:17.680 And what are they going to stand there with a stopwatch each time?
00:46:20.720 They're going to make sure.
00:46:22.220 What if it's the third infraction?
00:46:23.700 It's just wild.
00:46:24.880 So this is the continuing war on the car.
00:46:27.820 And frankly, the city, city governments are tasked largely with doing three things.
00:46:34.220 Keep the city streets safe, clean, and in good repair.
00:46:40.360 Right now, Ottawa sucks, pardon my language, on all three counts.
00:46:46.000 The last time I was there was for a conference downtown.
00:46:49.080 It was shocking.
00:46:50.320 There was human excrement on the sidewalk.
00:46:53.760 I could see the Peace Tower and right there.
00:46:56.740 So I'll just call out the mayor, Mark Sutcliffe.
00:46:59.100 He used to work with me at that news talk radio station.
00:47:02.160 You happy with this?
00:47:03.100 Look around your city streets.
00:47:06.000 I was not safe walking from Laurier down to Gladstone, down Bank Street.
00:47:11.760 It was unbelievable.
00:47:14.480 Totally unbelievable.
00:47:15.760 It was dirty.
00:47:16.720 It was dangerous.
00:47:17.960 And there were holes all through the street.
00:47:19.660 But they'll come and ticket you, Cosmin, if you're trying to heat up your car to take
00:47:24.400 your daughter to daycare, all the while hiking up your taxes and fees while doing it.
00:47:28.840 They should be ashamed of themselves.
00:47:30.060 And frankly, the folks in Ottawa shouldn't put up with this anymore.
00:47:33.680 They should swamp City Hall with emails and phone calls and tell them to back off on this.
00:47:37.440 Sorry, I wasn't expecting to get that mad.
00:47:39.420 But I lived there for a long time.
00:47:42.760 And there's a lot of people there that are really busting their butts trying to work normal jobs.
00:47:46.760 And they're just going to get you watch.
00:47:48.740 They're going to nail the suburbs and the residences.
00:47:52.000 They won't be going to the Glebe.
00:47:53.700 They won't be going to Rockcliffe.
00:47:55.360 They'll be going out to Canada and Orleans and nailing people there.
00:47:59.300 Mark my words.
00:48:00.220 All right, folks, thanks for listening to my rant about living in Ottawa.
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00:48:17.200 I can't believe those absolute jerks are doing that.
00:48:28.560 It's going to be so mad.
00:48:30.740 Yeah, I mean, I was like, well, I really hope she doesn't ask me for anything.
00:48:33.820 What could I say after this?
00:48:36.060 I hope that was okay.
00:48:37.420 Well, you described it so well.
00:48:39.040 So I didn't mention the city said the bylaws will be get this, Chris.
00:48:43.940 This is no cheap ticket.
00:48:46.360 $615.
00:48:47.200 Are you kidding me?
00:48:48.700 This is insane.
00:48:49.760 This is that's literally more expensive than any ticket.
00:48:52.340 I can think of maybe a red light one.
00:48:53.640 I mean, $615 is disgusting.
00:48:56.260 Wow.
00:48:57.400 I mean, it doesn't matter now.
00:48:58.640 I don't think red light tickets are that much.
00:49:00.160 No, they're not.
00:49:00.940 There's no way.
00:49:01.580 The only ticket I know that's more than that is an insurance ticket.
00:49:04.120 Like you don't have insurance like two grand.
00:49:06.040 But outside of that, I mean, what is that high?
00:49:07.940 I have not.
00:49:08.980 I mean, we're not.
00:49:10.600 I don't know.
00:49:11.320 I can think of those.
00:49:12.840 I can'm going to go to you next time.
00:49:13.500 Okay?
00:49:13.560 You