Juno News - January 10, 2025


Trudeau bails at a critical moment for Canada


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Justin Trudeau announces he is stepping down as Prime Minister of Canada and calls for Parliament to be called back to session on March 24th. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation and the TaxPensions Federation react to the news and give their reactions.

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00:00:00.000 I can't help it.
00:00:00.800 I'm going to start with the weather.
00:00:02.520 It is cold and snowy and disgusting out,
00:00:04.820 and it's made me super mad
00:00:06.340 because I'm still paying crazy taxes on my home heating
00:00:09.180 because it's not optional.
00:00:10.400 Otherwise, my pipes would burst.
00:00:12.300 Cosman, you're sitting there smirking at me.
00:00:14.080 Do you guys have cherry blossoms out right now in January or no?
00:00:17.780 Well, it's a damp, dreary 7 degrees here in Victoria, BC,
00:00:23.280 so obviously we're suffering.
00:00:26.220 All the cyclists are bundled up suffering as well.
00:00:30.000 Just add more vortex, Isaac.
00:00:32.740 Yeah, no, I was just thinking it's really, really warm here.
00:00:35.180 It's like minus 5, but it's been like minus 25,
00:00:37.880 so I was like, man, minus 5, it's like shorts weather out there.
00:00:40.320 I don't know what Cosman's living in Mexico with 7 degrees, man.
00:00:43.960 What the heck?
00:00:44.760 You guys are in flip-flops in Edmonton.
00:00:47.020 All right, let's get this thing started.
00:00:56.900 Welcome to Off the Record.
00:00:58.500 My name is Chris Sims.
00:00:59.460 I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:01:02.680 Thank you so much to True North for letting me sit in on this panel.
00:01:06.340 We've got a really fun show for you today
00:01:08.220 because it seems like something's been happening in Ottawa.
00:01:11.000 Not too sure about the news.
00:01:12.700 Joining me for this show are, of course, Cosman and Isaac.
00:01:15.600 Thank you so much, Hanlon, for joining me.
00:01:17.920 Thanks, Chris.
00:01:18.440 Hey, so the big story, of course, is Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is going to resign.
00:01:26.160 I will point that out.
00:01:27.920 He has not resigned yet.
00:01:29.660 He is still the Prime Minister.
00:01:31.580 He is still the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:01:34.300 But he announced that he's going to resign.
00:01:37.300 The question here, of course, is when, okay?
00:01:41.440 Is it going to be 60 days, 90 days?
00:01:43.640 Is he still going to be sitting in the front bench when Parliament comes back on March 24th?
00:01:47.900 Oh, and yeah, they prorogued Parliament. 0.94
00:01:50.900 So now everything is on hold.
00:01:52.700 Everything is frozen.
00:01:54.100 All of the legislation is dead.
00:01:56.780 So the good news is Bill C-63 is gone.
00:01:59.480 So that's really good news.
00:02:00.880 So they should be coming back March 24th.
00:02:02.780 So much to break down here, guys.
00:02:04.720 I just wanted to go around the horn for us before we get to our clips and our tweets here.
00:02:10.180 Isaac, what went through your mind when you saw him finally say he's going to leave?
00:02:14.600 Yeah, well, leading up to the announcement that Trudeau made,
00:02:19.800 and we all kind of knew it was coming or expected something along those lines,
00:02:23.780 I personally did not think that he would resign.
00:02:26.800 I didn't think he had it in him.
00:02:29.100 Obviously, we don't know what's going on behind closed doors,
00:02:31.860 whether he's being forced or anything of the sort.
00:02:34.000 But I still was very surprised when I heard those words come out of his mouth.
00:02:39.220 But as you mentioned, Chris, this isn't him resigning.
00:02:42.600 And we'll go through the tweets soon.
00:02:44.180 But for example, when I was writing up the story on Ted Cruz saying that he resigned,
00:02:49.180 it's not technically true.
00:02:50.500 He hasn't yet resigned.
00:02:51.660 And who knows when that day will come.
00:02:54.000 But I do think that despite him not resigning and despite Parliament being prorogued
00:02:59.800 and despite Canada facing tariff and annexation threats from the United States
00:03:04.580 and the list goes on and on, Canadians are probably relieved to know that change is coming eventually.
00:03:11.940 Can you imagine having a tariff and annexation threat?
00:03:15.220 And it's like secondary to be a relief of things finally changing in Ottawa.
00:03:21.400 Cosman, what was your take on it?
00:03:23.960 Yeah, my immediate thought was I couldn't think of an absolutely worse time to prorogue Parliament.
00:03:30.240 Not just the tariff and annexation stuff.
00:03:34.380 USMCA deal is going up for renegotiation.
00:03:38.140 Chinese interference is still a problem.
00:03:40.840 It hasn't been dealt with.
00:03:42.580 We have a confluence of all of these problems affecting our nation.
00:03:47.580 We have inflation, the cost of living crisis, the healthcare crisis,
00:03:52.000 people dying in waiting rooms and ERs and our Prime Minister decides it's a good time
00:03:59.600 to shut down all business in the House of Commons
00:04:02.580 and not even give people the chance to have a democratic vote on the future of this country
00:04:10.500 because that's what it comes down to.
00:04:12.460 And I would like to remind listeners and viewers that this Prime Minister
00:04:17.480 attacked the former Harper government for proroguing Parliament
00:04:22.120 and he called it a direct attack on democracy.
00:04:26.200 Yet this is the second time that he has done the same.
00:04:30.300 I will point out we've been getting a lot of emails with that same sort of tone
00:04:34.700 and a lot of folks wanted a chance to vote in the election with him in the election.
00:04:42.460 They wanted to be able to have their say, yes or no, whatever it is.
00:04:46.960 They wanted ultimately to have that say.
00:04:49.460 And I'm hearing a lot of frustration from people who are saying,
00:04:52.680 why is he going and exiting stage left and leaving this flaming bag
00:04:57.360 for the next Liberal leader to deal with in the next election?
00:05:01.100 Why isn't he standing for the next election?
00:05:03.180 So a lot of high spirits there.
00:05:05.100 I wanted to go through some of them here and get your thoughts on them.
00:05:08.820 Let's go with the Chrystia Freeland tweet here first
00:05:11.420 because, of course, she was finance minister that really helped get this thing spinning out of control.
00:05:17.020 So she says, I thank Justin Trudeau for his years of service to Canada and Canadians.
00:05:22.060 I wish him and his family the very best.
00:05:24.800 1.1 million views.
00:05:26.760 I will point out Chrystia Freeland was a terrible finance minister. 1.00
00:05:30.960 She never balanced the budget one time. 0.98
00:05:33.540 She was instrumental in helping to double the national debt.
00:05:39.200 Double it.
00:05:40.300 So throughout all of history of our governments, these guys doubled it.
00:05:43.460 And of course, she froze the bank accounts of Canadians
00:05:46.860 when they dared protest against the government,
00:05:49.800 which was found to be unreasonable by the federal court, I will point out.
00:05:54.960 So yeah, terrible finance minister.
00:05:57.220 And on her way out the door, this was the tweet.
00:05:59.140 So what is your take on that, guys?
00:06:00.820 Did you think that was genuine?
00:06:05.740 Well, I can jump into it.
00:06:07.460 Sure.
00:06:07.640 I think it's just boilerplate, milquetoast statement.
00:06:12.780 It obviously ignores the brewing conflict between her and the prime minister
00:06:18.480 and how much weight you want to put into that.
00:06:21.300 That's up to you.
00:06:22.760 Obviously, they have very much aligned interests.
00:06:26.060 They follow a lot of the same ideas and ideological background.
00:06:32.400 And to me, it's quite hard to distinguish between the two at this point.
00:06:37.160 There is a very thin line of difference between Chrystia Freeland and Justin Trudeau.
00:06:42.520 They, throughout their political careers, have been tied at the hip
00:06:46.700 and have acted almost as a single unit.
00:06:50.060 So, it's yet to be seen whether she is considering running for the leadership.
00:06:57.120 She's obviously been singled out by the legacy media as a suitable replacement for Justin Trudeau.
00:07:06.440 But whether Canadians buy that, I'm not so sure about that.
00:07:11.560 Yeah, I'll just say I saw really in people wishing Trudeau farewell
00:07:19.820 and I was paying close attention to all the premiers across Canada.
00:07:22.720 I really saw two themes emerge.
00:07:24.740 One, a simpler boilerplate answer, as Cosman said, basically just thanking him,
00:07:29.580 not really giving any examples per se, just a short answer.
00:07:32.320 And then the other side of the coin was people who were attacking him,
00:07:36.720 like Daniel Smith, who called his resignation selfish and, I mean,
00:07:40.380 gave very, very, very strong language against his resignation,
00:07:44.340 as we discussed previously in Canada's deep.
00:07:47.340 We need a government right now to negotiate with the threats we're facing.
00:07:54.120 Yeah, I had something else to say, but I forgot what the second one was.
00:07:58.040 We can get, well, I know somebody who has something to say.
00:08:00.700 Let's read U.S. President Donald Trump's tweet.
00:08:04.240 That was quite something.
00:08:05.400 So, quote, many people in Canada love being the 51st state.
00:08:10.000 The United States can no longer suffer the massive trade deficits and subsidies
00:08:14.100 that Canada needs to stay afloat.
00:08:17.140 Justin Trudeau knew this and resigned.
00:08:19.820 If Canada merged with the United States, there would be no tariffs.
00:08:23.660 Taxes would go way down and they would be totally secure
00:08:27.040 from the threat of Russian and Chinese ships that are constantly surrounding them.
00:08:31.820 Together, what a great nation it will be.
00:08:34.300 So, there's a peak Trump trolling in the middle of it.
00:08:40.300 He didn't call him governor there, I don't think.
00:08:44.300 So, it's been a tag team, really, between Musk and Trump.
00:08:48.240 And so, I will just say, as a taxpayer,
00:08:52.240 and as somebody who takes stuff seriously that's happening on Parliament Hill
00:08:55.860 because we all pay for it, it's super annoying from the tariff side of things
00:09:00.620 because he's not joking about the tariffs.
00:09:04.020 The tariffs are super for real.
00:09:06.460 So, here we have Parliament prorogued,
00:09:09.260 the carbon tax set to go up on April 1st,
00:09:12.460 like a week after they get back,
00:09:14.540 and we've got a trade war with a lame duck Prime Minister.
00:09:19.340 So, super not a good situation for taxpayers.
00:09:23.380 But what's annoying here is that because he's rattling the cage here,
00:09:27.960 saying, oh, 51st state and calling him governor,
00:09:30.380 I think Elon Musk called him,
00:09:31.920 hey, girl, you're not even governor of Canada anymore.
00:09:34.900 That was quite something.
00:09:36.060 Very schoolyard.
00:09:36.980 It's eating up so much oxygen.
00:09:39.820 Like, so many people in Ottawa are just gripped
00:09:42.620 with the trolling element of Trump here
00:09:44.640 that I think they might be missing the big thing,
00:09:47.200 which is the threat of tariffs.
00:09:48.620 I could be way off base on this.
00:09:50.340 So, Cosman, what did you think?
00:09:52.100 Sure.
00:09:52.640 We also have to look back that going into this,
00:09:55.520 Canada didn't necessarily have the best intentions
00:09:58.560 when negotiating trade with the United States.
00:10:01.740 We implement, well, the Liberals, rather,
00:10:03.960 implemented a digital service tax
00:10:06.780 that applies to U.S. providers as well.
00:10:09.460 And that was a thing that the Biden administration
00:10:12.260 really hammered the Liberals on
00:10:14.320 because it wasn't accepted all over the world.
00:10:17.360 I think it was OECD was discussing this,
00:10:20.860 but they didn't actually implement it.
00:10:23.180 And the Liberals took the initiative
00:10:24.920 to make up their own digital services tax
00:10:27.760 and then blanket apply it to all these U.S. companies.
00:10:31.280 So, the trade relationship off the get-go isn't a good one.
00:10:36.660 And going into the USMCA,
00:10:38.700 the renegotiation of the replacement of NAFTA,
00:10:42.980 there was all sorts of problems,
00:10:45.640 a significant one being that the Americans aren't happy
00:10:49.420 with Canada's dairy cartel,
00:10:52.500 the supply management system.
00:10:54.700 That might be up for renegotiation.
00:10:56.280 So, I think these moves by Trump,
00:10:59.520 a lot of people seem to misunderstand him
00:11:03.000 because he is somebody who wrote Art of the Deal.
00:11:06.060 And it's about coming back with a counteroffer.
00:11:09.840 And right now, Canada does not have a counteroffer.
00:11:12.780 We've left it up to the premiers,
00:11:14.780 to the provinces,
00:11:16.160 and I guess to the Canadian people themselves
00:11:18.480 to figure out how can we counteroffer
00:11:21.660 this obvious bluster and machismo
00:11:26.080 to intimidate us into accepting a position
00:11:30.040 that might not necessarily be in our best interest.
00:11:33.560 And that's where it gets a little bit frustrating
00:11:35.220 because every now and then,
00:11:37.100 people forget,
00:11:38.260 if you want to know what someone's like,
00:11:39.820 listen when they tell you.
00:11:41.420 His book, In Art of the Deal,
00:11:43.380 explains that he will come through
00:11:45.180 like a freight train at first,
00:11:46.900 bull in a china shop,
00:11:47.860 he'll rough you up.
00:11:49.180 He'll get you wondering
00:11:49.880 if you're even in the right room.
00:11:51.500 And then he'll come back
00:11:52.600 with a nicer counteroffer back and forth.
00:11:54.580 And that's in order to destabilize you.
00:11:57.000 So, this has been the way
00:11:58.600 he does business deals very successfully
00:12:00.700 for decades.
00:12:02.240 So, the idea that we'd be caught off base
00:12:04.180 with him saying,
00:12:05.600 hey, you're 51st state
00:12:06.560 and you're our governor now.
00:12:07.840 I liked what Doug Ford,
00:12:09.500 and I'm paraphrasing,
00:12:10.680 he's the Ontario premier, of course.
00:12:13.000 Doug Ford said something
00:12:14.260 along the lines of this
00:12:15.260 when he was on an American TV station.
00:12:17.860 Oh, can we take over Canada?
00:12:20.780 He's like,
00:12:21.120 oh, well, Canada's not for sale,
00:12:22.640 but how about you sell us Alaska instead?
00:12:25.780 That's how you do this.
00:12:27.800 That's how you get past
00:12:29.120 the silliness
00:12:30.280 and the pushing 0.97
00:12:31.360 and the shoving 0.99
00:12:32.040 and actually get down to brass tacks.
00:12:33.900 Isaac, what was your take on Trump?
00:12:35.900 We also have a cliff of Trump,
00:12:37.560 but this was...
00:12:38.320 Yeah.
00:12:39.440 Quickly, I'll start with Ford
00:12:40.640 because that's where you finished.
00:12:41.680 Obviously, he is the chair
00:12:43.000 of the Council of the Federation,
00:12:44.800 which is the group
00:12:45.540 of Canada's premiers,
00:12:46.480 and he's spoken on their behalf
00:12:49.120 in recent days,
00:12:50.440 specifically basically saying,
00:12:52.540 look, Trudeau has not resigned yet.
00:12:55.000 He still is the lead negotiator
00:12:56.660 for Canada,
00:12:57.140 but he does not have
00:12:58.200 a mandate to do so.
00:12:59.160 He doesn't have a public mandate.
00:13:00.440 The parties are against him.
00:13:02.540 The premiers are essentially
00:13:04.000 going to have to step up
00:13:05.140 in his place
00:13:06.060 and do the negotiations,
00:13:07.280 and Ford, in fact,
00:13:08.680 said he expected the same
00:13:09.880 of municipalities.
00:13:10.760 So, we'll see what that happens,
00:13:13.760 especially with a lot
00:13:14.480 of the premiers
00:13:15.060 assumed to be traveling
00:13:16.180 to the United States
00:13:17.080 for Trump's inauguration date.
00:13:19.420 Maybe they can manage
00:13:21.340 to do some negotiations
00:13:22.520 while they're down there.
00:13:24.520 It's hard to say, though.
00:13:26.620 Let's pull up the Cruz tweet here,
00:13:29.660 or X.
00:13:30.200 What do we call them on X now?
00:13:31.640 Posts?
00:13:32.160 Yeah, I say posts.
00:13:33.340 Posts, X, yeah.
00:13:34.900 Declarations due to Elon.
00:13:36.380 Okay, this is from Ted Cruz.
00:13:38.320 The trucker's convoy
00:13:40.200 was a major reason.
00:13:41.760 Trudeau resigned this week.
00:13:43.420 His repressive policies
00:13:44.820 were so over the top.
00:13:46.860 That was the beginning of the end.
00:13:48.620 I was proud to stand
00:13:50.080 with the truckers.
00:13:51.420 I was not expecting that language
00:13:53.740 because sometimes it's easy
00:13:55.280 up here in Canada
00:13:56.060 to think that people
00:13:57.260 forget about things.
00:13:58.880 And it's impressive
00:14:00.140 that Ted Cruz
00:14:01.240 has not forgotten about that.
00:14:02.580 And again,
00:14:03.260 we have to keep in mind
00:14:04.300 the Emergencies Act
00:14:05.400 was invoked,
00:14:06.960 which is, of course,
00:14:08.000 the modern incarnation
00:14:08.880 of the War Measures Act.
00:14:10.420 So that means that
00:14:11.100 your rights are suspended,
00:14:12.800 you're no longer able
00:14:13.880 to hold your government
00:14:14.780 to account,
00:14:15.480 which is a big problem
00:14:16.220 for taxpayers.
00:14:17.320 And in some cases,
00:14:18.640 the people who were protesting
00:14:19.840 or supporting protesters
00:14:21.520 had their bank accounts frozen,
00:14:24.040 which was an enormous overreach.
00:14:26.260 And the federal court said so.
00:14:28.400 Cosman, were you surprised
00:14:29.400 that Cruz brought it back to that?
00:14:30.800 Honestly, no,
00:14:33.380 I was not surprised
00:14:34.360 because there was so much
00:14:36.000 international attention
00:14:37.540 during the truckers' convoy,
00:14:40.000 particularly in the U.S.
00:14:41.720 There was people,
00:14:43.500 MPs in the U.K.
00:14:45.400 calling for intervention
00:14:46.740 from their own government
00:14:47.900 in Canadian affairs.
00:14:49.900 There was people in Europe,
00:14:51.540 the European Parliament,
00:14:53.240 decrying Justin Trudeau's
00:14:55.940 overreach and trampling
00:14:58.340 of peaceful protesters
00:15:00.260 and this unprecedented use
00:15:02.360 of the Emergencies Act.
00:15:03.680 And in a way, he's right.
00:15:04.900 This was the beginning of the end.
00:15:07.180 This is where
00:15:08.200 the international image
00:15:10.380 that Justin Trudeau
00:15:12.060 and the liberal government projected
00:15:13.960 started to crumble.
00:15:16.340 And what was underneath
00:15:17.660 was way different
00:15:19.620 than what they originally
00:15:21.080 sold themselves as.
00:15:22.540 This is a guy who ran
00:15:24.220 on electoral reform,
00:15:26.100 democracy, etc.,
00:15:27.460 of being, you know,
00:15:28.560 a champion
00:15:29.140 of democratic ideals worldwide,
00:15:31.740 doing the least democratic thing
00:15:34.020 by issuing an executive order
00:15:37.120 to suspend certain rights
00:15:39.400 of people who protested
00:15:41.540 against his COVID pandemic diktats.
00:15:45.000 So this was truly
00:15:47.440 the beginning of the end.
00:15:49.140 And I think whenever people
00:15:50.740 will think of Justin Trudeau
00:15:52.460 in the future,
00:15:53.800 historically speaking,
00:15:55.540 that will be one
00:15:56.740 of the main things
00:15:57.440 that come to mind.
00:15:58.260 Not him legalizing marijuana,
00:16:00.420 not the carbon tax.
00:16:02.460 It will be how he treated
00:16:03.720 his own citizens
00:16:04.660 because it was just
00:16:05.460 such an internationally
00:16:06.980 shocking incident.
00:16:09.700 I will say
00:16:10.660 I've covered him
00:16:11.700 for a long time
00:16:12.580 before he even ran
00:16:14.580 to be a member
00:16:15.140 of parliament.
00:16:16.320 And I didn't see
00:16:18.000 that element of him coming.
00:16:19.720 He was always just
00:16:20.560 this kind of friendly,
00:16:21.640 the sunny ways thing.
00:16:22.560 Remember that?
00:16:23.120 It was really kind of light
00:16:25.920 all the time.
00:16:27.320 I did not see
00:16:28.340 that part of him coming,
00:16:29.740 the language that was used
00:16:31.260 against people
00:16:32.440 in a very divisive manner.
00:16:34.300 And it was leading up
00:16:35.440 to that a little bit.
00:16:36.360 I remember leading up
00:16:37.260 to the convoy
00:16:38.580 trying to take them on
00:16:40.160 over things like
00:16:40.980 a proposed truck tax,
00:16:42.380 for example,
00:16:42.960 a pickup truck tax,
00:16:44.260 increased carbon taxes.
00:16:45.740 And even then
00:16:46.680 they were starting
00:16:47.640 to use nasty language
00:16:49.300 like,
00:16:49.620 oh,
00:16:49.980 you're just
00:16:50.480 this tiny group
00:16:51.540 and this is misinformation
00:16:53.040 and disinformation.
00:16:54.320 Like,
00:16:54.880 what?
00:16:55.240 Like,
00:16:55.400 it's super divisive.
00:16:56.620 And then,
00:16:56.980 of course,
00:16:57.280 that rhetoric
00:16:57.760 just ran off the scale
00:16:58.920 leading up
00:17:00.220 to the trucker convoy.
00:17:01.320 So,
00:17:01.500 yeah,
00:17:01.660 did not see that coming.
00:17:03.340 And I would agree
00:17:04.040 with you
00:17:04.360 that it was
00:17:04.920 kind of the big shift
00:17:06.260 because,
00:17:06.700 of course,
00:17:07.640 we had a change
00:17:08.480 in the conservative party leader
00:17:09.760 right around that time.
00:17:11.260 And it was right
00:17:11.880 around that time
00:17:12.520 that,
00:17:12.900 of course,
00:17:13.160 at the same time
00:17:13.700 we got a new opposition leader.
00:17:15.160 And that's when
00:17:15.660 things started tracking
00:17:16.620 in a wildly
00:17:17.360 different direction.
00:17:18.100 And here we are,
00:17:20.180 hopefully,
00:17:20.940 going to be getting
00:17:21.480 an election soon.
00:17:22.780 Isaac,
00:17:23.340 were you surprised
00:17:24.500 to see Cruz
00:17:25.140 bring it back to that?
00:17:27.780 Yeah,
00:17:28.380 well,
00:17:28.900 firstly,
00:17:29.320 I'll say Cruz,
00:17:30.620 Trump,
00:17:31.120 and,
00:17:31.500 of course,
00:17:31.840 VP J.D. Vance
00:17:33.060 have all historically
00:17:33.960 stood up with truckers.
00:17:35.580 They've been very supportive
00:17:36.760 of them,
00:17:37.600 talking about how
00:17:38.260 they're fighting
00:17:38.660 for freedom
00:17:39.360 against,
00:17:40.180 like,
00:17:40.760 authoritarian measures,
00:17:42.000 against totalitarianism.
00:17:43.480 These are the quotes
00:17:44.040 they've used.
00:17:45.140 In fact,
00:17:45.680 J.D.
00:17:46.040 or,
00:17:46.380 sorry,
00:17:46.620 Ted Cruz
00:17:47.060 went to bat
00:17:47.840 against the Ottawa police
00:17:49.340 during the convoy
00:17:50.820 because the police,
00:17:51.660 essentially,
00:17:52.560 the Ottawa police,
00:17:53.600 threatened its residents
00:17:54.900 saying,
00:17:55.360 look,
00:17:55.540 if you participate
00:17:56.780 in this convoy,
00:17:58.920 we're going to
00:17:59.700 financially attack you.
00:18:01.500 And Cruz said
00:18:02.120 this would not have happened
00:18:03.160 if you had a First Amendment.
00:18:05.060 So,
00:18:05.440 yeah,
00:18:05.740 no,
00:18:05.940 he's historically
00:18:06.600 stood with truckers,
00:18:07.880 so I wouldn't find it
00:18:09.020 too surprising
00:18:09.720 in that sense
00:18:10.320 that he's bringing it back now,
00:18:12.100 especially with the
00:18:13.340 anniversary
00:18:13.840 of the convoy
00:18:14.840 coming up.
00:18:15.320 I think that's on
00:18:16.160 the 22nd of January,
00:18:17.940 if I recall.
00:18:19.060 So,
00:18:19.420 yeah,
00:18:19.740 not all too surprising,
00:18:20.880 no.
00:18:21.500 Wow,
00:18:21.900 it was quite something.
00:18:23.200 Do we want to play
00:18:24.020 the Trump clip here?
00:18:25.720 This is where,
00:18:26.600 so,
00:18:27.380 for folks who don't know,
00:18:28.820 Mar-a-Lago
00:18:29.380 is this kind of old,
00:18:31.240 as far as,
00:18:32.020 as far as the United States
00:18:33.040 goes old.
00:18:33.900 Sorry,
00:18:34.200 Cosmin.
00:18:34.860 Mar-a-Lago
00:18:35.680 is this old mansion
00:18:36.960 and it's often referred to
00:18:38.860 as the Southern White House
00:18:40.100 and Trump has owned it
00:18:41.240 for,
00:18:41.640 I don't know how long.
00:18:42.280 So,
00:18:42.900 he owns it
00:18:43.460 as one of his houses
00:18:44.860 and so what they're doing
00:18:46.200 right now
00:18:46.680 is leading up
00:18:47.440 to the inauguration,
00:18:48.660 they're just getting
00:18:49.180 all these world leaders
00:18:50.140 coming in
00:18:50.760 and all of his
00:18:51.280 different assistants
00:18:51.900 and that
00:18:52.240 and they're basically
00:18:52.900 building what they
00:18:54.080 have to do next
00:18:55.000 and so he actually
00:18:56.280 held a really long
00:18:57.720 press conference,
00:18:58.400 it was over an hour,
00:18:59.380 I listened to a whole
00:19:00.180 thing yesterday,
00:19:01.500 freewheeling,
00:19:02.320 kind of the old
00:19:02.960 Trump coming back,
00:19:04.320 taking on the press corps
00:19:05.340 and he was asked
00:19:07.260 about the Conservative
00:19:09.400 leader and of course
00:19:10.700 we know that's
00:19:11.220 Pierre Polyev,
00:19:12.340 about Polyev pushing
00:19:14.240 back on this whole
00:19:15.140 51st state sort of
00:19:16.680 nonsense.
00:19:17.380 Let's listen to this.
00:19:18.800 Mr. President,
00:19:20.700 if you were working
00:19:21.320 with the assumption
00:19:22.020 that you're serious
00:19:22.860 about making Canada
00:19:23.840 the 51st state
00:19:24.800 of the United States,
00:19:26.320 the leader of the
00:19:27.240 Conservative Party
00:19:27.920 in Canada said
00:19:28.680 under no circumstances
00:19:29.900 it won't ever be
00:19:30.580 the 51st state.
00:19:31.060 Maybe he won't win,
00:19:32.600 but maybe he will.
00:19:33.340 You had suggested
00:19:35.060 you were considering
00:19:38.020 military force
00:19:39.840 to acquire Panama
00:19:41.140 and Greenland.
00:19:42.460 Are you also
00:19:42.880 considering military
00:19:43.880 force to annex
00:19:45.460 and acquire Panama?
00:19:46.140 No, economic force
00:19:47.760 because Canada
00:19:49.460 and the United States,
00:19:50.960 that would really
00:19:52.120 be something.
00:19:55.660 So again,
00:19:57.020 the rhetoric's there,
00:19:58.440 but to me this
00:19:59.360 sounds just like
00:20:00.140 classic Trump.
00:20:01.160 Economic force,
00:20:02.140 that's what a 25%
00:20:03.320 tariff is.
00:20:04.920 And a tariff really
00:20:05.780 is just a tax
00:20:06.480 by another name.
00:20:07.280 It's an import
00:20:07.820 or export tax
00:20:08.780 depending on which
00:20:09.380 way you're going.
00:20:10.380 And it would frankly
00:20:11.340 hurt both sides
00:20:12.320 of the border
00:20:12.740 and it would hurt
00:20:13.400 taxpayers.
00:20:14.720 What was your take
00:20:15.540 on the no,
00:20:16.680 I don't care,
00:20:17.760 Isaac?
00:20:18.880 Yeah,
00:20:19.340 this is actually
00:20:19.920 what I wanted
00:20:20.360 to discuss earlier
00:20:22.000 which kind of
00:20:22.520 slipped my mind
00:20:23.000 at the time.
00:20:23.540 But, you know,
00:20:24.660 leading up to this
00:20:25.480 with the tariffs
00:20:26.320 and whatnot,
00:20:26.860 I really think
00:20:27.740 Canadians,
00:20:28.660 including myself,
00:20:29.380 kind of thought
00:20:29.800 Trump was joking around
00:20:30.780 especially with the
00:20:31.380 annexation.
00:20:32.020 But after watching
00:20:33.140 this clip,
00:20:33.640 I started to realize
00:20:34.820 I don't think
00:20:36.420 he's joking in any way.
00:20:37.740 This guy is
00:20:38.260 dead serious
00:20:39.240 about implementing
00:20:40.060 these tariffs
00:20:40.580 if we don't
00:20:42.600 negotiate with him
00:20:43.680 properly
00:20:44.020 and address
00:20:44.760 the concerns
00:20:45.340 that he has
00:20:45.860 which is drugs
00:20:46.460 flowing over the border,
00:20:47.660 illegal immigration,
00:20:48.740 the lengthy list
00:20:49.480 of things
00:20:49.880 that he's asked for.
00:20:51.080 And also,
00:20:52.660 I think people
00:20:53.160 are starting
00:20:53.480 to realize
00:20:53.940 this is not
00:20:55.560 an option
00:20:56.060 for Canada.
00:20:56.760 We need protection
00:20:57.860 from the United States
00:20:59.000 of America.
00:20:59.880 If we did not
00:21:00.940 have their protection,
00:21:01.640 if they were not
00:21:02.160 our ally,
00:21:02.840 imagine China,
00:21:03.640 imagine Russia 0.61
00:21:04.260 coming to our country 0.99
00:21:05.420 and taking our stuff.
00:21:06.640 What are we going
00:21:07.360 to do about that?
00:21:08.200 Absolutely nothing.
00:21:09.300 We've reported
00:21:09.940 extensively at True North
00:21:11.200 about the military's
00:21:12.560 many, many issues.
00:21:14.420 We are in no
00:21:15.040 state to defend
00:21:17.160 ourselves.
00:21:17.740 And on top of that,
00:21:19.600 our citizens
00:21:20.180 have no options
00:21:21.420 to defend themselves.
00:21:22.200 We don't really have guns.
00:21:23.040 We don't have any way
00:21:24.420 to fend off an invasion.
00:21:27.020 So, yeah,
00:21:27.820 without the United States, 0.89
00:21:29.000 we are sitting ducks.
00:21:31.460 Yeah.
00:21:31.920 Yeah.
00:21:32.720 What was your take
00:21:33.700 on that, Kossin?
00:21:35.840 In a way,
00:21:36.800 Trump is speaking truth
00:21:39.440 that kind of has been ignored
00:21:41.100 by Canadian politicians
00:21:42.860 in the sense that
00:21:43.860 Canada does rely 0.96
00:21:45.200 defense-wise
00:21:46.480 on the United States.
00:21:48.400 NORAD, for example.
00:21:50.160 We do not have
00:21:51.160 any military bases,
00:21:53.140 functioning military bases
00:21:54.500 in the Arctic.
00:21:55.800 We couldn't defend
00:21:56.800 the Arctic if,
00:21:58.520 like you said,
00:21:59.300 Russia or China
00:22:00.000 decided to
00:22:01.020 just stake a claim on it.
00:22:02.840 That is a very
00:22:03.800 hotly contested
00:22:05.140 future geopolitical arena
00:22:07.120 that Canada
00:22:08.260 simply does not have
00:22:09.420 the means and ways
00:22:10.640 to hold.
00:22:13.240 And additionally,
00:22:14.080 a lot,
00:22:14.980 you know,
00:22:15.380 it's sad to say,
00:22:17.060 but a lot of
00:22:17.720 our defense
00:22:18.480 decision-making
00:22:19.540 originates in
00:22:20.960 Washington, D.C.
00:22:22.600 Because just simply,
00:22:24.100 we are neighbors
00:22:25.060 to a superpower.
00:22:26.720 That's how it works.
00:22:28.120 We have to
00:22:29.320 at least
00:22:30.360 collaborate
00:22:31.520 and provide assistance
00:22:32.860 to our ally.
00:22:34.360 But that being said,
00:22:36.320 there is an element
00:22:37.600 of indignity
00:22:38.820 that I think
00:22:39.540 Canadians feel
00:22:40.720 when
00:22:41.460 the future president
00:22:43.400 is talking about
00:22:44.640 Canada in this way.
00:22:46.360 Canada as just 0.66
00:22:47.480 a share
00:22:48.940 that can be
00:22:49.780 bought and sold.
00:22:50.860 And I don't think
00:22:51.540 Canadians view
00:22:52.460 this country,
00:22:53.320 its history
00:22:53.860 and culture
00:22:54.480 that way.
00:22:55.560 And while I respect
00:22:57.460 the president
00:22:58.360 for taking
00:22:59.200 a vastly
00:23:00.820 different approach
00:23:01.700 to politics
00:23:02.380 that I think
00:23:02.960 a lot of people
00:23:03.540 have been accustomed
00:23:04.300 to this nice,
00:23:05.740 you know,
00:23:06.020 everybody's friends,
00:23:07.340 but when reality
00:23:08.480 comes knocking
00:23:09.260 on the door,
00:23:10.400 there are
00:23:11.120 certain things
00:23:12.280 we have to
00:23:12.940 accept as facts,
00:23:13.880 but at the same time,
00:23:15.520 we must stand up
00:23:16.560 for ourselves.
00:23:17.600 And we don't have
00:23:18.220 a government
00:23:18.640 doing that.
00:23:19.800 Parliament is prorogued.
00:23:21.060 There's nobody
00:23:21.680 on our side
00:23:22.500 of the negotiating table
00:23:23.860 that has stood up
00:23:25.020 as a leader
00:23:25.600 because our leader
00:23:26.780 has decided
00:23:27.820 to duck out
00:23:28.580 of the back door.
00:23:30.520 Yeah,
00:23:31.280 it's prorogued.
00:23:32.240 Everything's shut down.
00:23:33.560 It's not great,
00:23:34.400 I will say.
00:23:35.160 The national narrative,
00:23:36.840 to put it nicely,
00:23:37.560 is not great right now.
00:23:39.100 Like I said,
00:23:39.920 I've followed
00:23:40.280 Trump's work
00:23:40.960 for decades
00:23:41.880 and usually
00:23:44.220 I agree
00:23:44.640 with his idea
00:23:45.440 of, you know,
00:23:45.980 pro-business,
00:23:46.800 lower taxes,
00:23:47.740 smaller government,
00:23:48.520 more freedom,
00:23:49.420 all that sort of stuff.
00:23:50.720 But the
00:23:51.560 I don't care
00:23:52.340 and the repeated
00:23:53.680 language about
00:23:54.400 51st state
00:23:55.220 is starting
00:23:56.100 to annoy me.
00:23:58.300 And if
00:23:59.120 he could tamp
00:24:00.160 that down
00:24:00.640 a little bit,
00:24:01.180 that'd be great.
00:24:01.980 His initial point
00:24:03.260 of saying
00:24:04.480 he wants
00:24:05.220 a better border
00:24:06.000 is a totally
00:24:07.140 legitimate point
00:24:08.160 and it's legitimate
00:24:09.380 on this side
00:24:10.060 of the border too.
00:24:10.960 in Canada
00:24:11.800 because of course
00:24:13.200 we're seeing
00:24:13.740 increased problems
00:24:14.720 of gun crime,
00:24:16.160 especially in our
00:24:17.360 urban cores
00:24:18.040 and in our cities.
00:24:18.980 And guess who
00:24:20.000 gets blamed for that?
00:24:21.760 Law-abiding
00:24:22.880 firearms owners,
00:24:24.120 which the Trudeau
00:24:25.340 government
00:24:25.720 is trying
00:24:26.520 to demonize
00:24:27.440 and they're
00:24:28.220 trying to seize
00:24:29.100 our private property,
00:24:30.440 even though
00:24:31.480 we have border
00:24:32.520 agencies
00:24:33.080 and police
00:24:34.480 saying
00:24:35.320 it's not
00:24:36.360 Canadian firearms
00:24:37.660 owners
00:24:38.200 that are the
00:24:38.640 problem.
00:24:39.300 It's the
00:24:39.780 illegal guns
00:24:40.720 coming across
00:24:41.740 the Canada-US
00:24:42.540 border
00:24:42.960 from the states
00:24:44.140 and elsewhere.
00:24:45.020 So it would
00:24:45.900 benefit both of us
00:24:47.180 if they would
00:24:48.480 clean that up
00:24:49.560 because we'd have
00:24:50.420 the added bonus
00:24:51.120 of not being in
00:24:51.900 the middle
00:24:52.200 of a trade war
00:24:53.540 with Donald Trump.
00:24:55.500 So yeah,
00:24:55.920 so much stuff
00:24:56.780 going on.
00:24:57.480 Do we want to
00:24:58.020 move to the
00:24:58.680 actual liberal
00:24:59.440 leadership race
00:25:00.160 now?
00:25:00.400 This is super
00:25:03.760 fun.
00:25:04.280 So I think
00:25:05.280 this was your
00:25:05.840 surprise,
00:25:06.480 because it was
00:25:07.620 hilarious.
00:25:08.900 I hadn't seen
00:25:09.760 this yet,
00:25:10.380 so I apologize.
00:25:11.260 You surprised
00:25:11.740 me with it.
00:25:12.420 Is the top
00:25:13.300 none of the
00:25:14.440 above with
00:25:15.020 liberals?
00:25:15.620 What's going
00:25:16.040 on?
00:25:16.500 Yeah,
00:25:16.640 so we could
00:25:17.920 obviously sit
00:25:18.460 and talk for
00:25:18.840 the last story
00:25:19.320 forever,
00:25:19.760 but hopping
00:25:20.140 to this,
00:25:21.480 so there's
00:25:22.060 this recurring
00:25:22.760 poll,
00:25:23.860 and in the
00:25:24.140 most recent
00:25:24.700 rendition,
00:25:26.900 the top pick
00:25:27.860 for Canadians
00:25:28.640 for who to
00:25:29.420 become leader
00:25:30.160 of the Liberal
00:25:30.680 Party.
00:25:31.140 Yes,
00:25:31.380 the top pick
00:25:31.900 was none
00:25:32.500 of the above.
00:25:34.140 In second
00:25:34.940 place,
00:25:35.700 following none
00:25:37.180 of the above
00:25:37.860 was Chrystia
00:25:38.700 Freeland,
00:25:39.820 then following
00:25:40.540 her was Mark 0.99
00:25:41.140 Carney,
00:25:41.580 and fourth
00:25:41.920 place,
00:25:42.300 this is another
00:25:42.740 one,
00:25:43.000 was unsure.
00:25:45.080 Trudeau was
00:25:45.660 tied,
00:25:46.540 he tied for
00:25:47.600 fifth with
00:25:48.060 other,
00:25:50.180 and six,
00:25:50.840 so six
00:25:51.280 percent of
00:25:51.700 Canadians
00:25:52.020 chose each 0.68
00:25:52.460 of those,
00:25:52.960 and then
00:25:53.240 Sean Frazier
00:25:54.100 and Anita
00:25:54.560 Anand were 0.88
00:25:55.680 tied for last
00:25:56.440 place with
00:25:57.040 two percent
00:25:57.480 of approval,
00:25:58.840 and as I
00:25:59.840 said,
00:26:00.100 this survey
00:26:00.500 had been
00:26:00.980 taking place
00:26:01.920 over the
00:26:02.540 last several
00:26:03.600 years,
00:26:04.120 and surprisingly,
00:26:05.620 actually,
00:26:06.120 none of the
00:26:06.520 above was
00:26:07.080 the top
00:26:07.500 choice in
00:26:07.980 every single
00:26:09.020 edition of
00:26:10.200 the survey.
00:26:12.040 So,
00:26:12.600 I mean,
00:26:13.200 this just
00:26:13.700 really shows
00:26:14.280 that the
00:26:14.980 existing Liberal
00:26:16.420 MPs at this
00:26:17.020 point should
00:26:17.420 know,
00:26:17.720 because this
00:26:17.960 year has been
00:26:18.360 going,
00:26:18.680 or sorry,
00:26:19.100 this survey
00:26:19.480 has been going
00:26:19.920 on for years,
00:26:20.820 that Canadians
00:26:22.200 don't want any
00:26:23.420 of them to
00:26:24.080 represent them
00:26:24.740 because they're
00:26:25.260 literally choosing
00:26:26.100 none of the
00:26:26.980 above over
00:26:28.500 any existing
00:26:30.000 Liberal MP,
00:26:30.940 that's the
00:26:31.480 option.
00:26:32.840 And Trudeau
00:26:33.240 was on the
00:26:33.720 list too,
00:26:34.200 though he may
00:26:34.580 not actually
00:26:35.080 take part in
00:26:35.620 this leadership
00:26:36.060 election,
00:26:36.580 but for
00:26:37.240 previous ones,
00:26:38.220 he certainly
00:26:38.660 was on the
00:26:39.740 list,
00:26:40.060 and he's
00:26:40.620 been hovering
00:26:41.000 around 10%,
00:26:42.100 but he reached
00:26:44.160 a record low
00:26:44.820 in this newest
00:26:46.100 rendition of the
00:26:46.960 survey that just
00:26:47.560 came out a few
00:26:48.440 days ago,
00:26:49.500 and this
00:26:50.440 paired with a
00:26:51.580 separate poll
00:26:52.080 where we saw
00:26:52.880 Trudeau start
00:26:54.460 the new year
00:26:54.960 with a record
00:26:55.540 low approval
00:26:56.360 rating,
00:26:56.880 and his party
00:26:57.800 polling worse
00:26:58.460 than it has
00:26:59.040 in its 157
00:27:00.540 year history.
00:27:01.640 So, I mean,
00:27:02.420 the Liberal
00:27:02.840 Party's in
00:27:03.420 shambles,
00:27:04.180 and clearly
00:27:05.360 Canadians don't
00:27:06.400 think that there
00:27:07.060 is a suitable
00:27:08.960 replacement on
00:27:09.740 the table.
00:27:10.740 How do you
00:27:11.260 guys think
00:27:11.700 that Liberal
00:27:13.220 MPs should be
00:27:13.960 taking this,
00:27:14.640 seeing that
00:27:15.180 Canadians are
00:27:15.900 more likely to
00:27:16.500 choose nobody
00:27:17.360 than them to
00:27:18.960 represent the
00:27:19.640 party heading
00:27:20.340 into this
00:27:20.860 leadership election?
00:27:22.980 Kalsman?
00:27:23.300 Yeah, there
00:27:25.920 should be some
00:27:26.800 element of
00:27:27.620 reflection as
00:27:28.620 to how much
00:27:30.120 of a personality
00:27:31.160 cult the Liberal
00:27:32.420 brand has
00:27:33.140 become.
00:27:33.900 It has become
00:27:35.040 totally tied to
00:27:36.680 the person, to
00:27:37.860 the individual of
00:27:39.140 Justin Trudeau,
00:27:40.860 and for a while
00:27:42.380 we've known
00:27:43.100 Justin Trudeau as
00:27:44.400 Teflon Trudeau.
00:27:45.460 He could do
00:27:45.880 anything and it
00:27:47.420 would just slide
00:27:48.060 off him, but
00:27:49.200 that armor has
00:27:50.420 rusted, and all
00:27:52.180 of his mistakes,
00:27:53.760 all of his
00:27:54.420 overreaches, all
00:27:55.660 of his scandals
00:27:56.600 are underneath
00:27:58.460 that Teflon
00:27:59.460 layer and
00:28:00.120 they're starting
00:28:00.700 to really,
00:28:02.100 really show
00:28:02.680 through.
00:28:03.820 And when you
00:28:04.280 compare it to
00:28:05.200 2015, I
00:28:06.820 recall back
00:28:07.740 when Justin
00:28:08.800 Trudeau, even
00:28:10.380 before that,
00:28:11.000 just became the
00:28:11.960 Liberal leader,
00:28:13.060 and not to
00:28:14.120 sound too much
00:28:15.480 like a young
00:28:16.960 person or Gen
00:28:17.960 Z, but the
00:28:18.800 vibes, there
00:28:20.220 were vibes there,
00:28:21.180 there was a
00:28:21.800 vitality, an
00:28:23.180 energy, a
00:28:24.580 sort of
00:28:25.280 momentum that
00:28:27.040 Trudeau picked
00:28:27.880 up on, especially
00:28:29.140 among young
00:28:29.900 people, that is
00:28:31.160 totally lost, and
00:28:32.260 you don't see it
00:28:33.460 with any candidate
00:28:34.360 on the Liberal
00:28:35.140 side.
00:28:35.960 There's no single
00:28:37.040 individual who
00:28:38.660 you can point
00:28:39.460 to that is
00:28:40.700 stepping up and
00:28:42.300 appearing
00:28:43.680 different, giving
00:28:44.960 an alternative to
00:28:46.260 what the Liberals
00:28:46.920 have been for
00:28:47.800 the last 9-10
00:28:48.900 years.
00:28:49.360 So, again,
00:28:51.200 they've lost the
00:28:51.940 vibes, there's
00:28:52.580 no energy there
00:28:53.500 anymore, and
00:28:54.460 it's totally
00:28:55.020 shifted to
00:28:56.400 Pierre Polyev, as
00:28:57.680 the polls
00:28:58.320 indicate, and
00:28:59.680 especially among
00:29:00.780 young voters.
00:29:01.980 Even the NDP
00:29:02.900 don't have
00:29:04.020 traction with
00:29:05.160 younger voters
00:29:05.980 who really have
00:29:07.940 been among the
00:29:09.720 worst hit by the
00:29:11.220 9 years of
00:29:11.920 Justin Trudeau.
00:29:12.740 They've had their
00:29:13.440 entire futures
00:29:15.040 robbed from them,
00:29:16.340 and they are
00:29:17.460 going to make
00:29:18.700 that known when
00:29:19.880 they go to the
00:29:20.520 ballot.
00:29:21.820 Yeah, I think
00:29:22.860 this poll might
00:29:25.340 be showing that
00:29:27.120 Canadians agree
00:29:28.140 with the stance
00:29:28.980 that the
00:29:29.540 Conservative Party
00:29:30.240 of Canada has
00:29:31.060 taken against
00:29:31.920 the Liberals in
00:29:32.540 their upcoming
00:29:32.980 leadership election.
00:29:34.060 They've basically
00:29:34.480 said, look, look
00:29:36.740 at all the MPs
00:29:37.620 that are potential
00:29:38.920 leadership candidates,
00:29:40.040 it's all Justin
00:29:41.000 Trudeau's posse.
00:29:41.980 Don't forget,
00:29:42.680 this is not
00:29:43.840 changing who the
00:29:44.740 Liberal, or sorry,
00:29:45.680 who the Liberal
00:29:46.280 Party are as
00:29:47.400 an entity, what
00:29:48.640 they've become as
00:29:49.500 an ideology, and
00:29:51.100 that's what the
00:29:51.500 Conservatives have
00:29:52.000 been saying, like,
00:29:52.880 the Liberal Party
00:29:53.560 is the Liberal
00:29:53.960 Party, this is
00:29:54.680 Justin Trudeau's
00:29:55.340 Liberal Party, none
00:29:56.740 of these potential
00:29:57.540 MPs are changing
00:29:58.520 that image, and
00:29:59.160 clearly Canadians
00:30:00.380 agree, saying that
00:30:01.220 they don't want
00:30:01.960 anything to do
00:30:03.100 with that party or
00:30:04.060 its existing MPs.
00:30:06.240 Yeah, it's
00:30:07.040 definitely a changed
00:30:08.120 atmosphere.
00:30:09.160 I remember when
00:30:10.260 the members of
00:30:11.320 Parliament and the
00:30:12.100 opposition Liberals
00:30:13.240 were getting Trudeau
00:30:14.240 to run for
00:30:14.920 leader.
00:30:15.680 And they were
00:30:16.480 all kind of
00:30:16.900 rallying around
00:30:17.600 him, and they
00:30:17.980 were handing out
00:30:18.500 this pin.
00:30:19.620 It was going
00:30:20.100 everywhere, all
00:30:21.000 through the foyer
00:30:21.580 of the House
00:30:22.040 of Commons.
00:30:23.120 And there was
00:30:24.000 excitement, there
00:30:24.980 was this kind of
00:30:25.540 strange optimism.
00:30:26.800 I always found it
00:30:27.560 a little bit silly
00:30:28.220 because I think
00:30:29.080 politics is about
00:30:29.980 other people's
00:30:30.640 lives, and I
00:30:31.840 don't think it
00:30:32.320 should be this
00:30:32.940 kind of silly
00:30:33.500 sport all the
00:30:34.360 time.
00:30:34.960 But I do hang
00:30:35.800 on to some of
00:30:36.280 the stuff for
00:30:37.060 old time's sake.
00:30:38.360 It has changed a
00:30:39.660 lot, and it's
00:30:40.880 for the worse.
00:30:42.080 We've got, the
00:30:42.740 debt has been
00:30:43.680 doubled by this
00:30:45.120 government.
00:30:45.760 We've got runaway
00:30:46.960 inflation.
00:30:47.820 Again, this is the
00:30:49.000 fault of the
00:30:49.440 government because
00:30:50.660 they've printed
00:30:51.400 hundreds of
00:30:52.080 billions of
00:30:52.640 dollars out of
00:30:53.340 thin air, too
00:30:54.340 many dollars
00:30:54.900 chasing too few
00:30:55.820 things, as it is
00:30:56.840 put.
00:30:57.600 We've got massive
00:30:58.680 censorship.
00:31:00.020 Okay?
00:31:00.680 They tried
00:31:01.320 ramming through
00:31:01.920 Bill C-63, and
00:31:03.180 at the very last
00:31:03.880 second, thankfully,
00:31:04.760 it's gone.
00:31:05.520 But that would
00:31:06.200 have been
00:31:06.480 criminalizing people's
00:31:07.740 online expression,
00:31:08.900 both in the past
00:31:09.720 end in the
00:31:10.320 future, anonymously.
00:31:12.040 Like, that bill
00:31:12.640 was crazy.
00:31:14.080 We've got Bill
00:31:14.840 C-11, which
00:31:15.660 already went into
00:31:16.640 play, which is
00:31:17.360 going to be
00:31:17.920 affecting podcasts
00:31:19.200 even.
00:31:19.860 It's going to be
00:31:20.260 affecting alternative
00:31:21.060 media because the
00:31:22.460 government wants to
00:31:23.300 be able to decide
00:31:24.120 what other people
00:31:25.040 can see, hear, and
00:31:26.000 say on the
00:31:26.640 internet.
00:31:27.600 We've got a gun
00:31:29.400 seizure.
00:31:30.360 It's outrageous
00:31:31.200 what is going on.
00:31:32.500 Like, pretty much
00:31:33.060 everywhere you look
00:31:34.220 in Canada, where
00:31:36.140 the federal
00:31:36.660 government has an
00:31:38.080 effect on it.
00:31:39.240 It's a mess.
00:31:40.900 And then, of
00:31:41.340 course, we have
00:31:42.440 got the carbon
00:31:43.180 tax set to go
00:31:44.740 up again on
00:31:45.620 April 1st.
00:31:46.320 And this is
00:31:46.680 something, if you
00:31:47.260 don't mind me
00:31:47.740 tooting my horn,
00:31:48.780 there's a little
00:31:49.780 image here from
00:31:50.760 where I had put it
00:31:51.480 in the Toronto
00:31:51.980 Sun.
00:31:52.760 And we're trying
00:31:53.540 to implore the
00:31:55.000 liberal leaders to
00:31:56.740 disavow the carbon
00:31:58.140 tax, that now is
00:31:59.180 the time.
00:32:00.160 This carbon tax is
00:32:01.160 wildly unpopular.
00:32:02.780 Last year, this
00:32:03.660 time, when they were
00:32:04.540 going to have an
00:32:05.100 increase, 70% of
00:32:06.740 Canadians said they
00:32:07.740 were against it.
00:32:08.680 70%.
00:32:09.300 So, imagine you're
00:32:11.100 the new liberal
00:32:11.720 leader.
00:32:12.540 You're minted.
00:32:13.360 You're sitting down
00:32:14.120 there on March 24th
00:32:15.660 in Parliament.
00:32:17.080 One week later, you
00:32:18.200 crank up the carbon
00:32:19.080 tax and then you
00:32:20.200 hit the campaign
00:32:20.960 trail.
00:32:22.580 Knock, knock. 0.93
00:32:23.340 Who's there?
00:32:24.200 Carbon tax hike.
00:32:25.220 Can I have your
00:32:25.820 vote?
00:32:26.800 Like, are you
00:32:27.920 crazy?
00:32:28.840 That would be
00:32:29.440 madness.
00:32:30.320 So, we're
00:32:30.820 encouraging all of
00:32:32.800 the liberals to
00:32:33.640 come back from the
00:32:34.400 brink now and
00:32:35.420 disavow themselves of
00:32:36.520 this terrible,
00:32:37.260 expensive failure.
00:32:38.140 I don't think it'll
00:32:38.640 change things because,
00:32:39.980 to your point, both of
00:32:40.920 you, I think this has
00:32:42.560 been kind of a team
00:32:43.480 Trudeau, like the
00:32:44.280 button says.
00:32:45.280 This is no longer
00:32:46.140 kind of the John
00:32:47.520 Manley, Paul Martin,
00:32:48.920 that sort of more
00:32:49.680 serious liberal
00:32:50.480 government when they
00:32:51.640 balance the budget.
00:32:52.940 Totally different form
00:32:54.000 of a liberal
00:32:54.420 government.
00:32:56.180 Cosmin, you had an
00:32:57.840 issue where you were
00:32:58.540 raising about foreign
00:32:59.620 actors playing a role
00:33:00.960 here in the liberal
00:33:01.880 leadership, but I
00:33:02.580 haven't been keeping up
00:33:03.340 with that element.
00:33:04.220 Could you fill us in?
00:33:06.460 Right.
00:33:06.880 So, I interviewed or
00:33:08.680 just had a quick
00:33:09.980 discussion with the
00:33:11.200 former chair of the
00:33:12.440 organizing committee of
00:33:13.640 the conservative
00:33:14.260 leadership contest that
00:33:16.360 saw Pierre Polyev elected
00:33:18.460 and he pointed out that
00:33:22.440 the way the Liberal Party
00:33:24.040 of Canada's membership
00:33:25.240 rules work is that
00:33:27.580 anybody residing within
00:33:29.960 Canada can become a 0.78
00:33:33.020 Liberal Party member.
00:33:35.080 That doesn't mean they
00:33:36.460 have to be Canadian 0.94
00:33:37.360 citizens.
00:33:38.220 That doesn't mean they
00:33:39.060 have to be permanent
00:33:39.920 residents, but anybody
00:33:41.120 who has their feet on
00:33:43.160 the soil in Canada can
00:33:45.920 become a Liberal Party
00:33:47.460 member.
00:33:48.120 And if you're a member,
00:33:48.900 that means you can vote
00:33:50.020 in nomination processes.
00:33:51.320 You can vote on
00:33:52.880 leadership elections.
00:33:54.820 And he's not the only
00:33:56.480 one to raise awareness
00:33:57.920 about this.
00:33:58.640 CSIS brought it up
00:34:00.620 back when the
00:34:01.520 Handong allegations of
00:34:03.400 Chinese seniors being
00:34:05.660 bused to his
00:34:06.320 nomination meeting
00:34:09.560 ended up taking place.
00:34:12.080 It was also a warning
00:34:13.740 by the Elections
00:34:15.180 Commissioner of Canada
00:34:16.360 saying that they should
00:34:17.860 change their rules to
00:34:19.300 avoid foreign 1.00
00:34:20.120 interference in their
00:34:21.860 leadership and
00:34:23.460 nomination selection
00:34:24.700 process.
00:34:25.440 So this is a huge
00:34:28.240 problem because, you
00:34:30.440 know, the chances
00:34:31.720 might be slim, but if
00:34:32.900 another Liberal Party
00:34:33.980 leader becomes Prime
00:34:36.100 Minister again, there
00:34:37.800 is a very, very
00:34:39.900 significant and
00:34:40.960 realistic likelihood
00:34:42.260 that there could be
00:34:44.300 more foreign meddling 0.89
00:34:46.260 involved.
00:34:47.540 There's no backstop
00:34:49.220 or checks on this.
00:34:50.460 people have been
00:34:51.920 playing around online
00:34:52.980 on social media right
00:34:54.080 now, signing up
00:34:55.820 under all sorts of
00:34:57.220 ridiculous names to
00:34:58.240 Liberal Party
00:34:58.800 membership.
00:34:59.700 As Xi Jinping, they
00:35:00.960 put, like, the
00:35:01.760 address of the
00:35:03.440 Chinese consulate as
00:35:05.020 their address, and
00:35:06.400 there's no way to
00:35:07.400 verify it or to tell
00:35:09.040 if these are fake
00:35:09.880 registrations, and
00:35:11.820 it's a serious
00:35:12.740 problem because the
00:35:14.280 Liberal Party, whether
00:35:15.340 we like it or not, is
00:35:17.060 a significant force in
00:35:19.540 Canadian politics and
00:35:21.180 political history, and
00:35:22.280 when a major party has
00:35:24.040 this vulnerability in
00:35:25.320 place, it's seriously
00:35:27.780 an issue that affects
00:35:29.320 everybody because
00:35:30.220 foreign meddling means 0.95
00:35:32.180 that our sovereignty is
00:35:34.240 directly under attack.
00:35:35.540 People's choices are
00:35:36.660 being swayed by forces
00:35:38.820 they don't even know
00:35:40.040 of.
00:35:41.020 And to your point, it
00:35:43.140 isn't a maybe.
00:35:44.760 The next Liberal Party
00:35:46.480 leader will be Prime
00:35:48.200 Minister.
00:35:48.600 It may just be for a
00:35:50.600 week.
00:35:51.080 Absolutely right.
00:35:52.040 So that is, wow, I
00:35:53.740 did not realize that it
00:35:55.440 was to this extent where
00:35:57.060 you have to have, pardon
00:35:59.220 the phrase, two feet in
00:36:00.420 a heartbeat, and you have
00:36:01.580 to be standing in Canada,
00:36:03.240 and then I can become a
00:36:04.760 member and then
00:36:05.360 participate?
00:36:06.020 Is that what you're
00:36:06.460 saying?
00:36:07.660 That's right.
00:36:08.340 There's no permanent
00:36:10.160 residency or citizenship
00:36:11.420 requirements, whereas in
00:36:13.960 contrast, the Conservative
00:36:15.500 Party of Canada requires
00:36:17.600 you to show that you're a
00:36:19.400 citizen or at least a
00:36:21.280 permanent resident to be
00:36:22.640 able to vote, become a 0.79
00:36:24.760 member and vote within
00:36:25.760 their internal processes
00:36:27.040 and have a say in party
00:36:29.000 matters.
00:36:29.940 So this is a weird
00:36:31.200 situation.
00:36:31.800 Again, what I was just
00:36:33.700 mentioning there of the
00:36:35.000 next Liberal Party leader
00:36:36.500 will be the Prime Minister
00:36:38.760 of Canada.
00:36:39.380 I know this sounds weird,
00:36:42.160 okay, but once Trudeau
00:36:43.740 resigns and the new Liberal
00:36:45.860 Party leader is named, you
00:36:48.840 don't need to be a member of
00:36:50.380 Parliament to be a member of
00:36:52.480 Cabinet.
00:36:53.740 And the Prime Minister is the
00:36:56.680 first minister in the Cabinet
00:36:59.120 who reports to the Crown.
00:37:02.380 That's how this works.
00:37:04.180 That's why they're all called
00:37:05.240 ministers.
00:37:05.640 And just to throw a pop
00:37:07.880 culture reference, right, we
00:37:09.400 have a Manchurian candidate
00:37:11.040 situation here where you
00:37:12.960 could effectively, not even
00:37:15.360 just one candidate, multiple
00:37:17.000 candidates, we could have a
00:37:18.880 free-for-all of foreign 1.00
00:37:20.540 influence candidates running
00:37:22.380 for the Liberal leadership, not
00:37:24.140 a single one perhaps
00:37:25.580 representing the true values or
00:37:27.760 at least having their opinions
00:37:29.600 skewed or shaped in such a way
00:37:32.280 that it doesn't benefit us, but
00:37:33.900 it benefits a shadowy foreign 1.00
00:37:36.760 actor.
00:37:38.760 You know, I thought it was
00:37:39.880 weird enough when I was
00:37:40.760 reading about it in one of the
00:37:42.240 broadsheets and they were
00:37:43.800 pointing out that, so for
00:37:44.840 example, you know, Christy
00:37:45.840 Clark, former BC Premier,
00:37:47.540 doesn't have a seat in the
00:37:48.880 House.
00:37:50.120 If she won, she would still
00:37:51.760 technically be Prime Minister
00:37:52.960 though.
00:37:53.620 Same sort of thing if it were
00:37:54.440 Mark Carney who doesn't have a
00:37:55.640 seat in the House.
00:37:56.460 Same thing.
00:37:57.500 Because they would be the
00:37:58.640 Prime Minister.
00:37:59.980 I hadn't thought about the
00:38:01.600 actual elements of the people
00:38:03.700 registering and voting and
00:38:05.200 all of, wow, that's quite
00:38:06.480 something.
00:38:07.260 Have we heard, sorry to put
00:38:08.220 you on the spot, but have we
00:38:10.060 heard any grown-ups talking
00:38:11.420 about this in a serious
00:38:12.580 manner that could actually
00:38:13.720 rein this in or fix it
00:38:14.940 before it happens?
00:38:17.340 Yeah, so the latest report
00:38:19.180 I've seen from the CBC
00:38:20.580 indicates that the Liberals are
00:38:23.680 not intending to change their
00:38:25.140 membership rules.
00:38:26.240 They've shown no indication of
00:38:28.200 changing the membership rules.
00:38:29.680 although I will add they have
00:38:32.000 not released their leadership
00:38:33.980 election rules yet.
00:38:35.400 So there could be certain
00:38:37.820 stipulations that they add to
00:38:40.040 the Liberal leadership election
00:38:41.900 process that has extra
00:38:44.300 requirements on what sort of
00:38:46.400 members can vote.
00:38:48.460 But we haven't seen those yet.
00:38:50.640 Obviously the Liberals are
00:38:51.740 rushing to put together a last
00:38:53.840 minute Liberal leadership race.
00:38:55.940 So until that's out, we don't
00:38:58.000 really know the full extent of
00:38:59.880 it.
00:39:00.300 It would be, it would surprise
00:39:01.440 me, honestly, if they don't
00:39:02.580 fix this because the
00:39:04.080 establishment people have been
00:39:05.480 in the game for decades.
00:39:07.100 They don't want their arena
00:39:09.080 torched by some outside
00:39:10.740 influence and have their own
00:39:12.060 influence be gone.
00:39:13.140 Like this is part of, you know,
00:39:14.480 self-preservation as well as
00:39:16.520 making sure that it's Canadians 0.93
00:39:17.820 who have a say as who gets to
00:39:20.000 actually lead us and govern us.
00:39:21.440 Did we want to get to our really
00:39:22.840 fun kicker in Ottawa where you're
00:39:25.120 no longer allowed to idle your
00:39:26.460 vehicle or Isaac, did you have?
00:39:27.680 Yeah, let me just say two
00:39:29.160 things on this story quick.
00:39:30.900 Cosmin already used the good
00:39:32.060 Xi Jinping example, but I saw
00:39:34.000 another one because you said
00:39:34.980 you have to be standing in
00:39:35.820 Canada.
00:39:36.120 I'm not sure that's true
00:39:36.980 because someone was saying they
00:39:38.060 were in Europe and used a fake
00:39:41.040 name to apply to the leadership
00:39:43.800 party.
00:39:44.340 I mean, this is ridiculous.
00:39:45.740 How are the proper checks and
00:39:46.880 balances not in place?
00:39:47.800 A junior level coder could create
00:39:51.380 bots to manipulate this.
00:39:53.700 You don't have to be a tech
00:39:54.640 genius.
00:39:55.280 I mean, this is ridiculous.
00:39:56.200 The fact that you couldn't stop
00:39:57.860 that level, let alone an actual,
00:40:00.500 let's say, someone who has tech
00:40:02.520 experience.
00:40:03.120 I mean, imagine how easily you
00:40:04.540 could manipulate this process.
00:40:06.740 They definitely, I think I'll agree
00:40:08.880 with you, Chris.
00:40:09.420 They have to do something.
00:40:10.900 I mean, this is such Bush
00:40:12.760 League, literally Bush League.
00:40:15.380 I mean, what else can you really
00:40:16.620 say?
00:40:16.960 Like this is, I mean, it's child's
00:40:18.820 play to exploit.
00:40:20.040 You can't possibly have something
00:40:21.580 this easily exploitable at the
00:40:24.000 federal level.
00:40:25.620 But yeah, before I get too heated
00:40:27.140 with that, let's end with this,
00:40:31.880 which is a change we saw in Ottawa,
00:40:35.580 where yes, even if they pass their
00:40:38.240 coldest temperature ever, which is
00:40:39.620 minus 39 degrees.
00:40:40.840 I know if you live in Alberta, you
00:40:42.020 think that's it.
00:40:43.000 I mean, I think that happened last
00:40:44.160 weekend.
00:40:45.420 Residents will be unable to idle their
00:40:48.720 vehicle for more than one minute an
00:40:50.420 hour going forward.
00:40:51.960 This is irrespective of the
00:40:53.120 temperature.
00:40:54.640 So the city of Ottawa, they made
00:40:56.420 these bylaw changes that are coming
00:40:58.560 into effect just this January and
00:41:00.740 the new year, which weirdly followed
00:41:04.220 some research that showed that
00:41:06.300 people in Ottawa might not even agree
00:41:08.960 with the change.
00:41:09.700 So I don't know how they determined
00:41:12.260 that they should make these changes
00:41:13.600 despite them using research that
00:41:16.040 showed the contrary.
00:41:17.380 Uh, yeah, also this, this is for
00:41:23.960 unoccupied vehicles, but you won't be
00:41:25.620 able to idle for more than three
00:41:26.940 minutes, an hour in an occupied
00:41:28.540 vehicle when the temperature is
00:41:30.500 between zero and 27 degrees Celsius.
00:41:32.920 So hopefully they don't get stuck in
00:41:34.960 any traffic because idling for more
00:41:38.640 than three hours.
00:41:39.200 And I mean, come on, how would you even
00:41:40.340 enforce this?
00:41:40.920 This is ridiculous.
00:41:42.020 Oh, just watch them.
00:41:43.920 Yeah.
00:41:44.820 And so, uh, but, but, but it gets
00:41:47.020 better, Chris, when it's, uh, when
00:41:48.860 it's below zero degrees or above 27,
00:41:51.120 you're allowed to idle in an occupied
00:41:52.760 vehicle for 10 minutes, an hour.
00:41:54.620 So, uh, in, in the, in the minus 50,
00:41:56.940 if you were inside your vehicle, you're
00:41:58.300 allowed to idle for 10 minutes, an
00:41:59.480 hour.
00:41:59.640 But once that clock strikes 11 minutes,
00:42:01.780 even if it's minus 50, I mean, you're
00:42:03.100 going to have to turn that car off and
00:42:04.620 just, uh, take your best bet with, uh,
00:42:07.220 with mother nature.
00:42:08.120 Uh, good luck in that one.
00:42:09.540 If you're in Ottawa, because I wouldn't
00:42:12.000 be playing around in temperatures like
00:42:13.720 that.
00:42:14.380 Uh, I mean, what's, what's up with this
00:42:17.080 bylaw guys, what do you think?
00:42:18.320 Especially with the update, because, uh,
00:42:20.960 in the prior, in the prior version of
00:42:23.580 the bylaw, uh, these rules were not in
00:42:25.900 place if it was below zero degrees or
00:42:27.880 above 27, meaning over half the year was
00:42:30.560 exempt from this bylaw.
00:42:31.580 But obviously this takes that completely
00:42:33.120 out of the equation.
00:42:35.420 Cause and I'll let you have first kick. 0.97
00:42:37.120 Thanks, Chris.
00:42:39.300 Although I think you could speak better
00:42:40.740 to this topic than I could, but when
00:42:43.560 bureaucrats and municipalities need to 0.88
00:42:46.840 find ways to get money out of taxpayers,
00:42:49.940 they will come up with invent all sorts of
00:42:53.080 inventive ways to do so.
00:42:54.840 And there's no better thing or a slush 1.00
00:42:58.520 fund rather than the climate, uh, you
00:43:01.520 know, emergency and sort of the need to
00:43:03.620 save the climate and play people's
00:43:05.320 heartstrings.
00:43:05.920 And this is what I think it is.
00:43:08.020 Ottawa needs money.
00:43:09.540 They have to find new ways to get money.
00:43:12.140 They can't raise property taxes all the
00:43:14.560 time on people.
00:43:15.560 It's extremely unpopular.
00:43:17.300 So they try to hide in these little ways that
00:43:20.500 bylaw officers can go out and ticket people and, and
00:43:23.540 cite these, uh, obscene and ridiculous, uh, totally
00:43:28.100 detached from reality procedures and laws.
00:43:31.920 Because I don't know about you, but when I'm out
00:43:34.460 there, I don't really see on the roads, people
00:43:37.480 idling that much.
00:43:38.600 I think people try to reduce their idling amount.
00:43:41.560 Sure.
00:43:42.060 In the morning, you know, if it's minus 20 plus
00:43:45.360 degrees, you might go out, turn on your car or do it
00:43:47.940 from your window.
00:43:48.540 If you have a fancy automatic start and let your car heat
00:43:52.160 up for a couple minutes before you hop in and drive to work.
00:43:56.220 But I just don't see the, that it, this is as such a huge issue
00:44:01.600 that it requires enforcement people making things more expensive for people.
00:44:06.900 You know, people deal with tickets all of the time, parking tickets,
00:44:10.260 unfair speeding tickets, but having to deal with an additional concern,
00:44:15.980 having a bylaw officer knock on your door while you're getting ready to go to work
00:44:20.340 and pay your taxes because you left your car on for a little bit and wanted to heat
00:44:26.220 it up, but maybe for your, you know, three-year-old child that you're trying to
00:44:29.340 take to daycare.
00:44:30.340 So they're not freezing all the way there.
00:44:32.700 Now, now you're in trouble, right?
00:44:35.340 This to me is classic Ottawa.
00:44:38.160 Uh, Ottawa is the center of big government.
00:44:42.340 There is not a regulation or a little foot force that they have not met that they have
00:44:47.220 not loved. If you walk around Ottawa, every tree has a metal tag on it.
00:44:54.300 So that their parks and rec police also known as the NCC can keep track of it,
00:44:59.860 which by the way, of course, taxpayers pay for fully.
00:45:02.460 Um, Ottawa can become a joke of itself.
00:45:05.860 It loves to expand the role of government to get up into your grill, 0.50
00:45:11.700 to nickel and dime you and to virtue signal.
00:45:14.660 They get to do all of this at the same time with this thing.
00:45:18.520 And I am surprised that the folks in Ottawa are putting up with this because it's not
00:45:24.200 just the downtown bureaucrats that were so frightened of, you know, honking for a little
00:45:28.640 while that live there.
00:45:29.780 There are a ton of good, hardworking people that live in that area.
00:45:34.700 They used to listen to my old radio station, CFRA.
00:45:37.460 They'd live out to Arnpire. 0.59
00:45:38.980 They'd go down to CARP.
00:45:39.960 They were down the Ottawa Valley.
00:45:41.780 Lots of working class folks who don't like this nonsense. 1.00
00:45:46.400 And here we go.
00:45:47.520 This is classic Ottawa.
00:45:48.680 People might remember Ottawa was the city that was ticketing and fining little girls
00:45:55.320 for setting up a lemonade stand.
00:45:58.880 I kid you not.
00:46:00.560 And the reason I'm so ticked off about this is one,
00:46:03.200 obviously the infringement on somebody's personal freedom, like go fly a kite.
00:46:07.240 Yeah, I've got my car idling because it's minus 30.
00:46:10.820 Go away.
00:46:11.980 Number two, huge cost.
00:46:14.140 They're going to have all these little bylaw officers and they're going to be testing.
00:46:17.680 And what are they going to stand there with a stopwatch each time?
00:46:20.720 They're going to make sure.
00:46:22.220 What if it's the third infraction?
00:46:23.700 It's just wild.
00:46:24.880 So this is the continuing war on the car.
00:46:27.820 And frankly, the city, city governments are tasked largely with doing three things.
00:46:34.220 Keep the city streets safe, clean, and in good repair.
00:46:40.360 Right now, Ottawa sucks, pardon my language, on all three counts.
00:46:46.000 The last time I was there was for a conference downtown.
00:46:49.080 It was shocking.
00:46:50.320 There was human excrement on the sidewalk.
00:46:53.760 I could see the Peace Tower and right there.
00:46:56.740 So I'll just call out the mayor, Mark Sutcliffe.
00:46:59.100 He used to work with me at that news talk radio station.
00:47:02.160 You happy with this?
00:47:03.100 Look around your city streets.
00:47:06.000 I was not safe walking from Laurier down to Gladstone, down Bank Street.
00:47:11.760 It was unbelievable.
00:47:14.480 Totally unbelievable.
00:47:15.760 It was dirty.
00:47:16.720 It was dangerous.
00:47:17.960 And there were holes all through the street.
00:47:19.660 But they'll come and ticket you, Cosmin, if you're trying to heat up your car to take
00:47:24.400 your daughter to daycare, all the while hiking up your taxes and fees while doing it.
00:47:28.840 They should be ashamed of themselves.
00:47:30.060 And frankly, the folks in Ottawa shouldn't put up with this anymore.
00:47:33.680 They should swamp City Hall with emails and phone calls and tell them to back off on this.
00:47:37.440 Sorry, I wasn't expecting to get that mad.
00:47:39.420 But I lived there for a long time.
00:47:42.760 And there's a lot of people there that are really busting their butts trying to work normal jobs.
00:47:46.760 And they're just going to get you watch.
00:47:48.740 They're going to nail the suburbs and the residences.
00:47:52.000 They won't be going to the Glebe.
00:47:53.700 They won't be going to Rockcliffe.
00:47:55.360 They'll be going out to Canada and Orleans and nailing people there. 0.86
00:47:59.300 Mark my words.
00:48:00.220 All right, folks, thanks for listening to my rant about living in Ottawa.
00:48:05.320 Folks, if you have any questions, head on over to the True North website.
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00:48:17.200 I can't believe those absolute jerks are doing that.
00:48:28.560 It's going to be so mad.
00:48:30.740 Yeah, I mean, I was like, well, I really hope she doesn't ask me for anything.
00:48:33.820 What could I say after this?
00:48:36.060 I hope that was okay.
00:48:37.420 Well, you described it so well.
00:48:39.040 So I didn't mention the city said the bylaws will be get this, Chris.
00:48:43.940 This is no cheap ticket.
00:48:46.360 $615.
00:48:47.200 Are you kidding me?
00:48:48.700 This is insane.
00:48:49.760 This is that's literally more expensive than any ticket.
00:48:52.340 I can think of maybe a red light one.
00:48:53.640 I mean, $615 is disgusting.
00:48:56.260 Wow.
00:48:57.400 I mean, it doesn't matter now.
00:48:58.640 I don't think red light tickets are that much.
00:49:00.160 No, they're not.
00:49:00.940 There's no way.
00:49:01.580 The only ticket I know that's more than that is an insurance ticket.
00:49:04.120 Like you don't have insurance like two grand.
00:49:06.040 But outside of that, I mean, what is that high?
00:49:07.940 I have not.
00:49:08.980 I mean, we're not.
00:49:10.600 I don't know.
00:49:11.320 I can think of those.
00:49:12.840 I can'm going to go to you next time.
00:49:13.500 Okay?
00:49:13.560 You