Juno News - April 19, 2024


Trudeau gives MORE money to CBC


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Noah Jarvis joins us on the Off The Record to talk about the federal government's $42 million in additional funding for the CBC. Plus, a new segment called Off the Record, where we take a look back at the week that was.

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00:00:00.460 I feel like I'm outnumbered as a non-sports person.
00:00:03.700 Yes.
00:00:04.140 Well, when we get to that story in the show, Andrew, we'll just have you, maybe we'll just
00:00:07.960 have Sean kind of make it a two, a two shot and you'll just slide out a frame.
00:00:11.840 And then when it comes back into, uh, I was outvoted.
00:00:14.900 This was supposed to be my show when we envisioned it.
00:00:16.980 And then I somehow got outvoted.
00:00:18.260 I, this became way too democratic for my liking.
00:00:20.800 It's no, again, you're not invited back.
00:00:22.660 It's the Gen Z sports.
00:00:23.840 Well, Andrew, there's some statistics in the story.
00:00:28.960 So maybe you'll be a good at that.
00:00:30.560 You can parse that out for us.
00:00:31.740 Oh, lovely.
00:00:32.640 You can go to me as like the sad, lonely stats guy in the corner.
00:00:35.940 Like, uh, you know, John King on CNN with his little, like, you know, magic board or whatever.
00:00:40.400 All right.
00:00:41.060 All right.
00:00:42.080 Let's get this started.
00:00:51.360 Hello and welcome to off the record.
00:00:54.700 This is true North's Friday fun show.
00:00:57.360 We try to think back, take a bit of a less serious look at the week that was, and we
00:01:02.660 have a new face on the show today.
00:01:05.260 We have, uh, my friend and colleague, Harrison Faulkner, host of ratioed and the Faulkner
00:01:10.220 show and joining us for the first time, Noah Jarvis, a true North journalist.
00:01:13.520 You also hear from time to time on daily brief that you don't see him there.
00:01:17.920 So, uh, you are seeing him in the flesh here.
00:01:20.140 Uh, Noah, welcome to off the record.
00:01:22.360 Good to have you on the board.
00:01:23.240 Well, it's a great pleasure to be here.
00:01:26.920 All right.
00:01:27.720 Well, there we go.
00:01:28.660 Uh, how are you guys weeks?
00:01:29.680 This was budget week.
00:01:30.800 I know very exciting, riveting stuff.
00:01:34.220 Well, it was about as much as I expected the budget to be.
00:01:37.480 And, uh, you know, like all my, all that I ended up hearing on Twitter and seeing on
00:01:42.140 Twitter were, you know, all this talk about the, uh, capital gains tax taxes rising.
00:01:47.640 And, uh, well, I don't know.
00:01:49.460 I'm not, not shocked at all to hear it.
00:01:51.520 One of our, I can't remember what it was.
00:01:54.480 One of our colleagues, uh, who I won't, uh, it wasn't one of the ones on the call.
00:01:57.780 So, I mean, we're a small enough team.
00:01:58.940 People could figure out was like, ah, the budget's boring.
00:02:01.060 No one cares about that.
00:02:01.840 I'm like, well, we're a news organization.
00:02:03.000 So we have to care about it for the sake of, uh, for the sake of one day.
00:02:07.060 But, uh, I think you're the young, well, you're certainly younger than me.
00:02:09.340 No, I like, I, I don't think budget was like the galvanizing issue among your circle of
00:02:13.500 friends probably.
00:02:14.440 Right.
00:02:14.860 No, my friend's circle from high school wasn't, you know, just, uh, grasping for the budget.
00:02:19.420 But I would say that, you know, at least in my circles, a lot, I got a lot more attention
00:02:23.040 than your, your average budget does.
00:02:24.700 And, uh, uh, people were just generally disappointed, you know, taxes going up, uh, more government
00:02:29.480 spending.
00:02:29.920 It's, uh, not a good look for the country.
00:02:31.840 Fair enough.
00:02:33.160 Well, the whole thing was 430 pages.
00:02:35.780 We are going to focus on one page only.
00:02:38.540 That's it.
00:02:38.900 What we're making you care about one page here because it is a page that says the federal
00:02:44.720 government is going to give $42 million to CBC.
00:02:49.180 Now you may think, oh, well, 42 million, you know, CBC, they get 1.4 billion.
00:02:53.320 This sounds like an absolute steal.
00:02:54.880 We're, we're getting away.
00:02:56.160 No, no, no.
00:02:56.580 That's 42 million additional dollars, 42 million additional.
00:03:01.320 They're still getting their $1.4 billion subsidy.
00:03:04.080 They're still getting the RAD revenue.
00:03:05.620 They're now getting an additional 42 million.
00:03:07.920 Now I'll read the why.
00:03:09.840 This is like a third of a page in the budget, page 236 under the chapter of safer, healthier
00:03:16.700 communities.
00:03:17.360 I don't know how this is contributing to a safer, healthier community, but nevertheless,
00:03:22.860 investing in CBC is to give us, uh, Canadian, sure Canadians across the country, including
00:03:29.020 rural, remote, indigenous, and minority language communities have access to high quality, independent
00:03:35.040 journalism and entertainment.
00:03:36.680 Now, I think the real breaking news story here is that CBC is offering high quality journalism
00:03:41.680 and entertainment.
00:03:42.480 Is it not?
00:03:47.080 I guess, I guess not.
00:03:49.020 Hold on.
00:03:49.680 Yeah.
00:03:49.800 I'm trying to figure out.
00:03:50.880 I was setting one of you up for something there.
00:03:53.360 Yes.
00:03:53.760 No.
00:03:53.860 Yeah.
00:03:54.040 I was waiting for Harrison to take the track.
00:03:55.600 I'm looking for CBC, you know, television shows, some of those really great shows, uh,
00:04:01.120 that, that, you know, I, I think probably amount to about $42 million.
00:04:05.760 I can't think of better ways to service rural Canadian communities in the French Canadian
00:04:09.980 communities by, you know, more shows like 22 minutes, more shows like Schitt's Creek.
00:04:14.800 Actually, no, that show was actually like maybe one of their better ones.
00:04:17.580 Uh, all the ones that they did, they had that show Lido TV.
00:04:20.700 If you recall talking tomatoes, the one, the lecture, yeah, it was the tomato, the lecture
00:04:25.320 do about colonialism and feminism was.
00:04:27.560 I love that.
00:04:28.000 I love that one.
00:04:29.000 It's the only one I know.
00:04:30.200 Send that to the rural community, send that to the farther, the far North and give them 1.00
00:04:35.060 some more talking tomatoes, $42 million.
00:04:37.400 That's probably enough for another season or two, Andrew.
00:04:39.780 So yeah.
00:04:40.520 Well, yeah, you can get like a full, uh, jaws style animatronic tomato now, instead of,
00:04:45.120 uh, you know, some weird crappy CGI thing.
00:04:47.720 You can, you can go the full one.
00:04:49.020 We'll do like Avatar three will just be like a big, uh, C CGI tomato that, uh, James Cameron
00:04:54.920 will, uh, consult on, on CBC for.
00:04:57.140 So, uh, it's absurd.
00:04:59.440 And again, like they try to say that they're going to be the ones that stand up for these
00:05:04.160 forgotten pockets of Canada, the North indigenous communities, people that speak French.
00:05:11.960 Olympics and the Oscars and all of these really popular things.
00:05:15.280 So it's not even like no other really focusing on that underserved market that they claim
00:05:20.740 they are.
00:05:22.180 No, they're not focused on the underserved market.
00:05:24.340 It seems like half the time you flip on CBC, they're talking about the American election
00:05:28.580 or Donald Trump or whatever, you know, he said on Twitter, Trump social or truth social,
00:05:33.500 actually.
00:05:34.180 Uh, you know, so they're not focused on, you know, real Canadian stories.
00:05:38.560 Uh, and when they are focused on Canadian stories, it's, uh, stuff that the top 10% Laurentian
00:05:44.020 elite, uh, would care about, you know, talking about the, why drag queen story hours, uh, need
00:05:49.860 more attention.
00:05:50.460 And, you know, why, uh, this, uh, particular LGBTQ, uh, black woman is facing intersectional
00:05:56.340 discrimination or whatever, and how we can combat that, you know, uh, radio kind of that
00:06:00.860 at least has a bit more sense.
00:06:02.420 They've been, they did an investigation going into, uh, what, uh, what happens when, uh, people
00:06:07.820 go through the gender transition process, but, you know, English CBC, they have no sort of,
00:06:12.400 uh, backbone to really, uh, talk about those types of stories.
00:06:16.300 So when, uh, politicians talk about, you know, defunding the CBC and, you know, maybe keeping
00:06:20.800 around Radio Canada, I think, well, that might be for the better.
00:06:24.720 Yeah, I did this bit a few weeks ago and I'm going to repeat the same bit where, uh, we
00:06:29.340 were talking about CBC on this show and I just went to the CBC first person page, which
00:06:33.620 is this, uh, particular series CBC does where they have like a first person essay about something.
00:06:39.180 And these are always like the most absurd, like wokey, weird things.
00:06:44.040 Uh, this is, I'm doing it again.
00:06:45.300 Here are some of the recent examples.
00:06:47.280 Follow the crowds, avoid the clouds.
00:06:49.440 I chase eclipses to witness nature's awesome glory.
00:06:53.340 This is a story from a CBC radio host who apparently just loves following eclipses.
00:06:59.340 Uh, here's one from April 6th.
00:07:01.360 Ramadan leaves me feeling hungry, tired, and a bit giddy.
00:07:05.640 It also makes me a better person.
00:07:08.320 Okay.
00:07:09.000 Good for you.
00:07:09.720 These were AI generated, Andrew?
00:07:11.120 I think it would also be.
00:07:11.740 No, no, no, no, this isn't AI.
00:07:13.100 This is, uh, it could be AI generated.
00:07:15.220 This is like, see, I should actually get ChatGBT to like give me a CBC first person article.
00:07:20.780 But no, these are, uh, from the first person website.
00:07:23.700 Uh, what's another good one here?
00:07:24.980 I solo hiked from Mexico to Canada for my inner journey.
00:07:29.920 Instead, I found myself looking outward.
00:07:32.860 I don't even know what that means.
00:07:34.420 Uh, farming in extreme heat showed me climate change is real.
00:07:38.600 Changing my lifestyle is harder.
00:07:41.880 So, $42 million.
00:07:44.080 I don't know how many more of these that buys us, but probably too many.
00:07:47.740 Well, uh, just checked as well.
00:07:50.020 You remember, uh, the CBC executives got $14.9 million in bonuses paid out at last year.
00:07:56.360 So if this is any indication, perhaps bonuses are going to go up for the CBC executives.
00:08:00.580 They've already recovered all that, uh, all that pay for their bonuses.
00:08:04.080 Now, I, I forgot to mention a few other shows here, which I think, you know, this, this, uh,
00:08:08.700 this money can go towards perhaps a new season for, uh, what's it called Murdoch Mysteries.
00:08:15.360 I've heard that Andrew loves that show.
00:08:17.780 Um, how about Baroness one sketch show five seasons?
00:08:22.140 You can bring that one back.
00:08:23.300 It looks like it just, I just recently did one.
00:08:26.300 They did one really good one though.
00:08:28.640 Do they?
00:08:29.460 They did.
00:08:30.000 I, I don't know if we can play it, but they did a really good sketch.
00:08:33.020 A really good, like bit, uh, a couple of years back on land acknowledgements that I actually
00:08:37.180 thought was quite, was quite funny.
00:08:38.600 But again, like even a blind pig finds a truffle once in a while.
00:08:41.960 A broken clock is right twice a day.
00:08:43.360 So it doesn't undermine the core thesis there.
00:08:47.360 I, yeah, I, I try to remember the last one I watched again, like Schitt's Creek is good,
00:08:51.220 but I'm also convinced that Schitt's Creek would have been produced and funded by a private,
00:08:56.640 uh, media company if CBC weren't there.
00:08:59.440 And how many like bad ones do you have to suffer to get that?
00:09:03.240 How about Anne with an Heat? 0.99
00:09:05.600 How about which?
00:09:06.860 Anne with an Heat.
00:09:09.260 Oh, that's like the weird Anne of it.
00:09:11.020 Didn't they cancel that one?
00:09:12.820 I think so.
00:09:13.520 Well, they had, they had three seasons.
00:09:14.840 It looks like starting in 2017.
00:09:16.240 So again, you know, you can bring it back.
00:09:19.280 Yeah.
00:09:19.960 I went to elementary school with the star of Heartland.
00:09:22.440 I mean, so I was happy for her, but, uh, it would probably pain me to know how much,
00:09:26.140 uh, in, you know, and it's, but by the way, it's on both ends because CBC gets funding for
00:09:30.180 this, but all of these like Canadian productions are also getting like huge, uh, tax credits from
00:09:35.100 the government anyway.
00:09:35.740 So we're, we're getting hosed left, right, and center.
00:09:37.720 And this is just the entertainment stuff.
00:09:39.500 We also have the, the money losing news division.
00:09:41.580 So I, I know I, I, I'm using you as like the token young in here, Noah, but again, like
00:09:46.020 is CBC at all culturally relevant to anyone in your life?
00:09:51.120 No, the litany of shows, you guys just listed off.
00:09:53.380 They're pretty much all foreign to me.
00:09:54.720 And I would assume that, uh, they're even less familiar to my friend group.
00:09:58.520 And I just say like, you know, people at my age, you know, they're on Tik TOK, you
00:10:02.500 know, they get their, you know, long form video content from YouTube.
00:10:05.740 You know, they're less, uh, watching, you know, traditional TV shows and, uh, that
00:10:09.820 sort of deal.
00:10:10.440 So the CBC has, is just becoming a more and more obsolete institution, uh, as you
00:10:14.740 know, time goes on.
00:10:15.960 Uh, and it's especially, uh, you know, obsolete for my generation who, you know, isn't
00:10:20.800 particularly engaged in politics.
00:10:22.160 You know, they're not necessarily reading the news like you and I.
00:10:25.000 Um, but you know, if they do choose to read the news, it's on six buzz or, you know,
00:10:29.620 some of these, uh, social media accounts, not, uh, necessarily the CBC.
00:10:33.440 So, you know, the CBC's audience is getting older and older and perhaps that means the
00:10:37.860 political will to get rid of the institution will get, uh, better as the time goes on.
00:10:42.580 Come on.
00:10:43.240 No one's watching Family Feud Canada.
00:10:47.380 Or they're just going to use the, uh, the 42 million to get like Peter Mansbridge TikToks 0.65
00:10:51.480 or something, which is, uh, just what, just what Canada needs.
00:10:54.620 Uh, oh man.
00:10:55.660 Okay.
00:10:55.960 You know, if the CBC, they wanted to, no, I was going to say, if the CBC, they wanted
00:11:00.560 to, uh, you know, produce a show that Canadians would watch, they should make, you know, a
00:11:04.840 spinoff of Breaking Bad, but instead of Albuquerque, it's in Vancouver, you know, it's kind of like
00:11:09.320 what's going on right now.
00:11:10.300 It's a, you can even say it was based on a true story.
00:11:12.760 If they made a spinoff, it would involve some, you know, paraplegic.
00:11:16.600 And so I would take all the different diversity boxes, you'd be like Breaking Bad, but it would 1.00
00:11:21.560 be like, uh, some sort of a blind, uh, diverse, uh, paraplegic involved in the, in the drug
00:11:28.560 train, I think.
00:11:30.260 Yeah.
00:11:30.800 Just be like, I believe that's actually a documentary in Vancouver.
00:11:33.200 It's not even a fictional programming.
00:11:36.380 Uh, all right.
00:11:37.320 Uh, there's no natural segue from that to our, our next topic.
00:11:41.680 This was one, uh, well, we talked about it earlier on my show this week, uh, but you,
00:11:45.920 you flagged it here, Noah, and it seems to be actually getting some steam online, this
00:11:49.280 business with Rito all last week.
00:11:52.000 Yeah.
00:11:52.480 So, uh, basically what happened was, uh, the governor general, she hosted a big ball.
00:11:57.000 I call it the online harms ball, uh, where she basically invited a ball. 0.90
00:12:01.180 It was this, it was a symposium.
00:12:03.400 It was a symposium.
00:12:04.700 Makes it sound nicer.
00:12:05.900 Uh, but basically they invited a bunch of pro, uh, you know, censorship pro online harms
00:12:10.780 legislation people, uh, to the governor general's mansion, uh, you know, the justification
00:12:15.900 for this is that the governor general can promote, uh, certain causes that, uh, he or she wants
00:12:20.660 to promote, but, uh, this is a partisan issue.
00:12:23.080 Uh, it is very contentious legislation that was just, uh, tabled by a very unpopular Trudeau
00:12:28.180 government.
00:12:28.560 And, uh, I believe polls would also show that this, uh, legislation is quite, uh, divisive,
00:12:33.380 uh, amongst the Canadian people.
00:12:34.780 So she invited, uh, a governor or not governor general, the attorney general, uh, a reeferani 0.92
00:12:39.960 to the mansion.
00:12:40.580 She invited the likes of Billy Capital Mirth, uh, the notorious Ottawa, uh, school board
00:12:46.020 trustee.
00:12:46.500 She also invited, uh, Rachel Gilmore, the greatest, the best and brightest in Canadian
00:12:51.120 journalism.
00:12:51.600 Uh, and she invited a bunch of other, uh, just pro censorship, pro online harms, uh, people 0.92
00:12:56.860 to this, uh, to the governor general's mansion, which compromises the integrity, uh, of the
00:13:02.280 governor general's office and the impartiality, uh, that that office is supposed to hold a hold.
00:13:06.880 I didn't know that this was the 1840s where the governor general is, you know, actively
00:13:10.720 involved in politics and, you know, the day-to-day workings of a Canadian society.
00:13:14.560 But it seems like we are regressing quite a bit under the Trudeau government.
00:13:18.520 Uh, how'd you guys feel about this story?
00:13:21.640 Go ahead.
00:13:22.320 We have to be very careful when we're talking about these, uh, these journalists and these
00:13:26.460 activists who are at the, uh, at this governor general's event.
00:13:30.040 We know they're very sensitive.
00:13:31.020 So any mention of their names whatsoever might trigger a, uh, some sort of, uh, awful response
00:13:37.600 and they might get very scared.
00:13:39.460 I mean, I'm not really that surprised to see it.
00:13:41.520 I think that everybody knows the liberals seem to not have as much respect for these
00:13:47.360 institutions, um, that you would see perhaps in the previous conservative government and
00:13:52.380 view it more as some sort of vessel for, you know, vessel to advance their political
00:13:56.420 interests.
00:13:56.900 So to see, uh, the governor general, Mary Simon, get involved in essentially promoting
00:14:01.580 a piece of legislation, which, uh, is, is roundly thought of in this country as being
00:14:07.300 a dangerous piece of legislation.
00:14:08.560 In fact, the people who are now supposed to, uh, you know, execute the legislation to think
00:14:13.960 of a, you know, not, not to have the best word for it, but that's really what it is.
00:14:17.220 Uh, the human rights tribunal, I've spoken to a member, a former commissioner of the human
00:14:22.220 rights tribunal who said that this, this legislation was dangerous.
00:14:26.540 Um, so again, I'm not that surprised to see, uh, Mary Simon get involved in this way, but
00:14:31.120 I would appreciate it if the, the federal government took the role of the governor general
00:14:35.780 more serious and put someone in there who respected the institution as much as it deserves
00:14:40.660 to be respected.
00:14:41.220 Yeah, I, I think you're by far like the most, uh, you, you've got like the hair trigger sensitivity
00:14:47.200 to attacks on the monarchy Harrison.
00:14:48.880 I think as far as our team is concerned, you're like the, the most, uh, stalwart defender of
00:14:53.460 it.
00:14:53.560 I'm, I'm kind of of the mind that like, it was better when Britain sent us a governor general
00:14:58.680 because at least they were the crown's representative in Canada truly, instead of this like Canadian
00:15:04.300 who's been picked for all of these political reasons and really isn't interested in holding
00:15:10.400 the responsibility.
00:15:11.940 I mean, you look at Mary Simon, uh, she is, uh, clearly taking a political role when she's 1.00
00:15:17.740 wading into this.
00:15:18.560 Her predecessor had zero interest in, in all of the responsibilities of the governor general,
00:15:23.560 Julie Bayette.
00:15:24.320 And you go before that, David Johnston.
00:15:26.300 I mean, here's a guy, he had a relatively uncontroversial team as governor general, but just completely
00:15:31.640 became a partisan political sellout afterwards.
00:15:35.140 So we've not exactly had a good run lately in this role.
00:15:38.680 So I'm not all that surprised, but, but it actually, it undermines the institution itself.
00:15:44.340 Right.
00:15:44.840 I'm of the belief that they should just put a member of the Royal family into the position
00:15:48.640 and call it a day.
00:15:49.760 No, we'd get Megan Markle then. 0.92
00:15:51.780 Yeah.
00:15:52.120 No, no.
00:15:52.860 That would be our punishment.
00:15:54.000 No, I'm thinking, I'm thinking the Duke of Edinburgh.
00:15:56.320 I think Prince Edward would do a great job as governor general.
00:15:59.000 And, uh, I think if, you know, give it a shot.
00:16:01.660 Pierre, if you get the job, give it a shot.
00:16:04.140 Trust me.
00:16:04.520 I think it might be good.
00:16:06.380 Well, I think you bring up a good point, Harrison, where like the current system we
00:16:09.640 have right now is like this weird halfway house between the old system where the British 0.83
00:16:13.860 would appoint our governor general and, you know, other democracies where, you know, they
00:16:17.840 have a figurehead president that is elected, uh, but they don't do anything.
00:16:21.200 You know, it's really just the prime minister, uh, that, you know, is the head of government.
00:16:24.960 So I think that, yeah, there could be, you know, some, something to glean from this story
00:16:29.560 that, uh, perhaps we just have this weird role for the governor general, uh, and it
00:16:34.000 ought to be reformed.
00:16:35.320 But, uh, it seems like Mary Simon, our current governor general, uh, likes to, you know, spend
00:16:39.860 lavishly and, you know, get involved in political affairs.
00:16:42.640 And she doesn't particularly take the job seriously.
00:16:45.800 It really calls into question the type of people that the Trudeau government is appointing
00:16:49.520 to be governor generals.
00:16:50.660 Uh, we had Julie Payette who, uh, it had to resign in shame because, uh, she was, you 0.99
00:16:55.540 know, harassing her staff and, uh, overspending.
00:16:58.020 And it seems like, uh, we got someone who, uh, wants to get involved in political affairs
00:17:02.280 and eat caviar on the, uh, jet, uh, Canadian jet or whatever.
00:17:06.580 Oh, I forgot about that story.
00:17:07.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like let, you know, we can, there are jokes that we can make
00:17:12.340 about it, but also the role is very serious because we can get it.
00:17:16.040 We can find ourselves in a situation where an election results in a very close, uh, in
00:17:20.940 a very close, uh, you know, makeup of parliament and a minority government situation will perhaps
00:17:27.500 result in, in the governor general having a major decision on their hands.
00:17:31.060 Uh, we've seen this happen before in our country and it's not like it can't happen again.
00:17:34.540 It's a, it's a serious role and you really want to have someone who is guaranteed to
00:17:38.460 be impartial.
00:17:39.400 I think we've kind of gone further away from that.
00:17:41.580 David Johnson has shown himself, uh, in his post governor general life to not be that,
00:17:46.880 to not be that case and not be that way in the ski buddy of Trudeau's and is a part of
00:17:50.260 the Trudeau foundation.
00:17:51.520 But I don't think many people thought of David Johnston as a, as a particularly partisan governor
00:17:55.900 general when he was in the role.
00:17:57.440 And I think that's important to remember.
00:17:59.360 We, you want to have faith in this institution because there are times when it can be
00:18:04.480 very consequential and the governor general can decide whether or not to, uh, dissolve
00:18:09.640 parliament can decide whether or not to force an election.
00:18:12.980 Uh, there, there are times when this becomes really important.
00:18:15.280 And so I think it's time that this institution is taken more seriously.
00:18:19.540 Yeah, I would agree.
00:18:20.800 I would agree.
00:18:21.360 Go, sorry.
00:18:21.780 Go ahead, Noah.
00:18:23.300 No, I was going to say you're right.
00:18:24.580 Because when you have an incompetent, a competent governor general, things could go awry.
00:18:28.200 If you guys, uh, recall, I don't know if you're, uh, still alive in the 1920s, Andrew,
00:18:33.240 but, uh, you know, back then, uh, there was this thing called the King.
00:18:35.780 When did I become the old one?
00:18:37.220 I remember when I was always the young one, by the way.
00:18:39.520 And then there was a flip that's a switch that flipped and I became the old one, but
00:18:43.080 no, I assume that I wasn't Noah.
00:18:45.160 Well, uh, but back in the 1920s, uh, there was an affair where the prime minister, William
00:18:51.320 Lyon, Mackenzie King, uh, he asked the governor general to, uh, dissolve parliament and to
00:18:56.100 call for an election.
00:18:57.060 Uh, however, the governor general, he, uh, did not.
00:19:00.520 He appointed, uh, the opposition leader who was, uh, I believe, uh, it was a conservative.
00:19:05.180 Um, and then, uh, he basically could not manage parliament.
00:19:09.640 Uh, the, the government, um, was dissolved and an election was called William Lyon.
00:19:15.160 And Mackenzie King won a majority.
00:19:16.680 So you can see like the sort of political crisis that can happen where you have a, a poor governor
00:19:21.080 general.
00:19:21.360 And also, uh, maybe this would happen, this happened in your lifetime, Andrew.
00:19:24.840 But in 2008, uh, when prime minister Harper asked, uh, the governor general to dissolve
00:19:30.100 parliament, call for an election, uh, it took her hours just to even take the meeting, uh,
00:19:34.480 with Harper.
00:19:35.120 She left Harper out in the hallway for hours on end, uh, consulting with her advisors, trying
00:19:39.440 to perhaps maybe even undermine the prime minister.
00:19:42.320 Um, so it, you know, it really is important that.
00:19:45.160 And, uh, it is something that our current governor general, Mary Simon, doesn't take
00:19:49.060 too seriously.
00:19:50.420 All right.
00:19:50.640 Quick Noah, since you brought it up, you have to give me the governor general's name in the
00:19:54.080 William Lyon Mackenzie King debacle.
00:19:57.360 Uh, it was Lord Bing or something.
00:20:00.000 I don't know.
00:20:00.320 Yes.
00:20:00.680 There you go.
00:20:01.800 The King Bing affair.
00:20:02.780 You win the, uh, Canadian history quiz today.
00:20:05.280 The prize is, uh, well, it's nothing, but well done.
00:20:07.920 Uh, all right.
00:20:09.400 Uh, Harrison, what do you have?
00:20:10.620 All right.
00:20:11.720 Well, now that we got that history lesson out of the way, let's jump back to, uh, current
00:20:15.100 times here, folks.
00:20:16.800 Well, this is very interesting and hardly surprising.
00:20:19.200 I'm afraid to say it turns out that in the military, uh, just a few weeks ago, actually,
00:20:25.340 a, uh, the first transgender chaplain was being celebrated and honored by the Canadian military
00:20:31.480 during transgender day of visibility.
00:20:33.640 Uh, what is this guy's name here?
00:20:37.120 Beatrice Gale.
00:20:38.620 Just a few weeks ago, she was all, she, he was all over Twitter, celebrated as this great,
00:20:44.460 you know, uh, you know, visionary figure in the military.
00:20:48.080 Well, look at this story we've just published as an exclusive in True North.
00:20:52.440 This person has just been suspended over an alleged sexual groping comment.
00:20:58.440 Here are some of the details from the DND.
00:21:01.900 D. This incident stems from an inappropriate comment to request to another individual.
00:21:07.380 Either member was in a position with pretty or the other. 0.81
00:21:10.480 Gale received a relatively minor service infraction on April 3rd.
00:21:14.300 Uh, Gale was also found to have violated the Queen's regulations and orders, which
00:21:17.880 governed military conduct and affairs.
00:21:20.300 The reason the story is interesting, however, is because there seems to be two standards in
00:21:24.340 the military when it comes to these incidents.
00:21:26.180 As you all will well be aware, the military has gone through several high-profile sexual
00:21:31.860 misconduct allegation stories involving some very senior officers in the military, all
00:21:37.620 the way up to the role of, uh, chief of the defense staff.
00:21:41.180 Uh, there was one, uh, uh, uh, first of all, True North reached out to Gale for comment,
00:21:45.920 didn't get a response.
00:21:46.880 And when True North reached out to a military lawyer who represents other, uh, members who
00:21:52.900 have been in, who are being accused of, uh, of all number of things, uh, this lawyer pointed
00:21:58.840 out this double standard here.
00:22:01.640 He says, if a male officer behaved in a similar manner toward a subordinate female, the situation
00:22:06.740 will be dealt with differently and the offender's name will be leaked to the press.
00:22:09.880 Unfortunately, there's a lack of equality in how the Canadian armed forces handle such
00:22:13.980 allegations.
00:22:15.320 What do you guys think of this story?
00:22:16.980 I just find it to be one of those, one of those classic Canadian armed forces, 2024 stories.
00:22:23.440 Andrew?
00:22:24.040 Yeah.
00:22:24.600 So I think there are a couple of problems here.
00:22:26.580 I mean, look, anyone is, anyone is, has it in them to commit an act of wrong in the military,
00:22:33.880 transgender or otherwise they have disciplinary systems in place to deal with those.
00:22:38.200 I think the fact that this person was a chaplain makes it particularly more egregious because
00:22:43.480 a chaplain is someone who's there to deal with people in terms of their spiritual health
00:22:48.300 and wellness and wellbeing.
00:22:49.520 I mean, it puts them, uh, look, working with people who are in a very vulnerable place.
00:22:53.800 I think the problem you have here is when the military bends over backwards to look woke
00:22:59.780 and progressive.
00:23:01.480 And you know that that tends to come at a cost.
00:23:04.960 I mean, Noah, you and I have talked about this in other contexts where DEI policies are
00:23:09.560 advanced and, and everyone says it's not anti-merit, but a lot of the times it is because people
00:23:14.260 prioritize this one thing over the other.
00:23:17.280 So when you have the military saying, oh, this is our, our hero of, of inclusivity or
00:23:21.800 hero of this, then they turn around and okay, well, this is a person who is, uh, by the
00:23:25.640 military's own processes, uh, committing, uh, an infraction of service, which again, from, uh,
00:23:30.820 Cosman's reporting, it, it, uh, sounds like it was a request to grope side of, I mean,
00:23:35.180 look, maybe great that they're requesting instead of just doing, but like at the end
00:23:40.100 of the day, there's a, an inappropriateness here from a chaplain.
00:23:43.820 And again, how does this still get treated as though someone is being this icon of inclusivity?
00:23:51.240 And you see this in the U S there's that Admiral Levine that is trotted out there.
00:23:55.940 And I, I think the, the military has to start focusing on being a good, respectable military
00:24:00.920 and not being the most inclusive, diverse, uh, woke armed forces in the world.
00:24:05.900 And, you know, it really undermines the cohesiveness of the military.
00:24:08.800 I mean, the military has already been going, uh, through some problems when it comes to military
00:24:13.380 cohesion.
00:24:14.380 Um, we have, you know, uh, people or we have the, the government imposing, uh, the military
00:24:20.920 to put, you know, tampons in the mail bathroom.
00:24:23.500 Uh, we have, you know, drag queen, uh, story hour or, or drag queen shows happening on military
00:24:28.660 bases and just, you know, poor recruitment numbers.
00:24:31.320 Uh, you know, it just all points to, uh, you know, discohesion, uh, within the military.
00:24:36.440 And, uh, this sorts of sort of thing doesn't help.
00:24:39.120 There's a couple more important details about this story that I want to address because it
00:24:43.180 goes, it kind of goes more into detail of this double standard here when it comes to prosecuting
00:24:48.560 these cases.
00:24:49.200 So, uh, Cosman tried to get some more details here from the, uh, from the Canadian Armed Forces.
00:24:54.980 And basically, this is, this is how it, this is how it went.
00:24:58.720 The Liberals introduced a bill to strip the military of its ability to investigate and
00:25:03.560 prosecute sexual offenses within the military.
00:25:06.300 That means it has to go to a, an actual court outside of the military court.
00:25:10.040 This allegation, however, is being prosecuted inside the military.
00:25:13.160 The CAF has decided to withhold the records of Gale's summary hearing, citing privacy grounds.
00:25:19.900 However, according to military rules, a summary hearing is to be held in public, except if
00:25:24.760 the conducting officer believes information affecting a person's privacy or security interest,
00:25:29.880 or if that interest outweighs the public's interest in the information would be disclosed.
00:25:33.740 So, you see, right?
00:25:35.800 There, there, there's two things happening, which are not happening.
00:25:38.020 They're not releasing the public, uh, some hearing, uh, of what happened to this, this
00:25:43.320 individual and what this individual allegedly did.
00:25:45.640 And they're prosecuting it within the military.
00:25:48.380 I think, I think the point should be made that this would not be the case had it been
00:25:52.160 anybody else.
00:25:53.280 Had it been a member who basically fits into the, the, the rank and file troops, they would
00:25:58.380 not be given the same treatment.
00:26:00.080 I just find it ironic that a week before this story comes out, or maybe a few weeks before
00:26:04.720 the story comes out, they were trotting out this transgender chaplain as a symbol of what
00:26:10.000 the military can be and how great the military is.
00:26:13.540 Yeah, no, very, very, uh, good point on that.
00:26:16.720 Uh, you guys sent me something about, uh, a basketball, which I had trouble following.
00:26:21.660 So I just didn't bother with it, but whoever wants to talk about that, go ahead.
00:26:25.360 So here we go.
00:26:26.280 This is the part where, uh, where the, the gen, uh, the gen Zed take or begins, I guess 0.99
00:26:30.660 on the sports commentary.
00:26:32.760 Now here's the thing about this story, right?
00:26:35.020 Sports gambling is in the news.
00:26:36.380 Everybody sees it.
00:26:37.140 They see way too many ads for it.
00:26:38.940 And this is always going to, this is always bound to happen.
00:26:40.960 There was always going to be an athlete that was going to get caught up in this mess.
00:26:44.440 And it just so happened to be a relatively unknown Toronto Raptors player to be the first
00:26:48.820 big name, I think, to fall, uh, under what I think is going to be several eventually.
00:26:53.880 Now this guy, John Tate Porter, uh, you probably don't know about him because not many people
00:26:58.400 did know about this guy.
00:26:59.580 He was basically unknown.
00:27:00.560 Now he was on, um, I, these, these, this information is important.
00:27:04.320 This guy was on about 420, $440,000 a year.
00:27:08.300 That's a lot, of course, but compared to basketball standards, that's at the bottom of the league.
00:27:13.300 Essentially.
00:27:13.740 This guy has just been banned for life from the NBA for essentially betting against himself
00:27:21.880 involved in some sort of group or other people were also involved in betting against himself
00:27:26.460 and producing those kinds of performances on the court, essentially facing his own performances
00:27:32.680 to make sure people, people could cash out in the millions.
00:27:35.400 So for my research here, Noah, basically what happened was one of these sports books noticed
00:27:41.640 that the biggest winner on two separate occasions was the Dante Porter under figures.
00:27:47.680 People were betting under this guy's, uh, you know, rebounds points.
00:27:51.040 People were betting underneath what, what the, um, what was going to be expected.
00:27:54.900 And then they were the biggest winners of the night.
00:27:57.200 Millions of dollars on this one random player that nobody heard of.
00:28:00.980 People were, were cashing out big time on this.
00:28:03.180 I mean, clearly that's a red flag.
00:28:05.200 Why, how did they think they could get away with this nonsense?
00:28:07.180 You know, as a Raptors fan, the, the, this really strikes deep at my core.
00:28:12.200 It's a shame that this happened to, you know, one of our players, uh, and it's not like this
00:28:16.620 guy had been around for a very long, but, uh, I think it's a, it's a good thing that the,
00:28:20.700 you know, the NBA, they're cracking down hard on this.
00:28:23.100 They gave him a lifetime ban to sort of disinvent us and disincentivize other people from doing
00:28:27.520 this.
00:28:27.920 But, um, yeah, like if this happened to like, you know, an all-star level player, you know,
00:28:31.980 this would be a really, uh, terrible thing for the league.
00:28:34.500 Um, and it would just, you know, put the, uh, the league in a, uh, in a sort of situation
00:28:39.600 where, uh, they have to either, you know, ban the guy and perhaps, you know, sacrifice
00:28:43.560 profit, uh, or they would keep him around and sacrifice their integrity.
00:28:47.560 Uh, but you know, the fact that this happened to a player on the Raptors is terrible.
00:28:51.360 Uh, I don't know if you guys have been watching the Raptors, uh, this season it's, it's over
00:28:54.940 now, thank God.
00:28:56.220 Uh, but the, you know, the Raptors, they brought in like a bunch of random players that you've
00:29:00.560 never heard of.
00:29:01.500 Uh, you know, this guy named Freeman Liberty.
00:29:03.540 Uh, that's his last name.
00:29:04.720 It's a pretty redundant.
00:29:05.540 I like it.
00:29:06.040 I like him.
00:29:06.980 That's a guy.
00:29:07.620 Sounds great.
00:29:08.260 Yeah.
00:29:09.420 Free Liberty.
00:29:11.120 That's I can get behind that.
00:29:12.720 I care about true North to gift Andrew a Raptors, Freeman Liberty Jersey, and you can
00:29:17.280 hang it up in the back.
00:29:18.500 I'd have been a color behind your shot there, Andrew.
00:29:20.700 Yeah.
00:29:22.240 And his middle name is, uh, I don't know if I find a good middle in justice, you know,
00:29:26.220 Freeman justice, Liberty or something.
00:29:29.440 Yeah.
00:29:29.800 But when you, when you bring my, my one question on this, aren't these guys paid enough that
00:29:35.860 the payoff of this is relatively low that you make more money by being good than by, you
00:29:40.520 know, being bad.
00:29:41.660 Or am I just, here's what I found out about this.
00:29:44.620 I didn't know about this, but this guy, this guy was making like basically league minimum.
00:29:48.860 And again, you're making $400,000.
00:29:51.680 You're, you're, you're, you're doing well.
00:29:52.980 You shouldn't be involved in a major multimillion dollar gambling scandal, but this guy's brother
00:29:57.600 was guaranteed over a hundred million dollars.
00:30:00.820 So maybe there's a little bit of a jealousy.
00:30:03.520 Maybe there's a little bit of like nothing to lose.
00:30:05.460 Cause this guy's on the league minimum.
00:30:06.780 And you know, he probably only has three years left in the NBA in his career.
00:30:11.300 So somebody went to this guy probably and said, listen, we're going to, we're going to
00:30:16.000 find a way to make you super rich.
00:30:17.720 We're going to give you a bunch of money.
00:30:18.940 You, if you throw your performances, you don't get like four rebounds in this game.
00:30:24.160 Then, then we'll set you up.
00:30:26.300 We'll set you up for life and no one will notice, but they're so stupid.
00:30:29.300 They need it twice.
00:30:30.960 Obviously they were going to get caught.
00:30:32.280 They probably could have got away with it if they weren't so, if they weren't so greedy
00:30:35.140 about it all.
00:30:35.780 But I don't know.
00:30:37.220 It sounds ridiculous.
00:30:38.300 So he didn't, he didn't get, uh, he didn't get as many field goals as he was supposed to.
00:30:43.140 No, no, no.
00:30:44.400 Look, there are videos of it.
00:30:45.900 There's a video of this guy shooting the three pointer.
00:30:48.940 And like egging it off the backboard and he's not happy at all.
00:30:52.140 He's like gutted.
00:30:53.260 He's disappointed about shooting.
00:30:54.480 Yeah.
00:30:54.620 It went in and he was, he was mad.
00:30:57.000 It was ridiculous.
00:30:58.020 Like he obviously tried to miss by like throwing it off the backboard, but it just like went
00:31:01.700 back in.
00:31:02.240 He was like, Oh no, now I hit the over.
00:31:05.720 Yeah.
00:31:06.760 All right.
00:31:07.360 You guys have had your fun.
00:31:08.720 You got your sports story out of your system.
00:31:11.160 Uh, I dropped something mysteriously that I hope wasn't, uh, breakable anyway.
00:31:16.620 Uh, all right, let's go to this.
00:31:18.940 This is a fun one to let, I mean, it's, it's a sad one, but it's a fun one.
00:31:22.900 And as someone who had a, uh, a grandmother with a great sense of humor, who's now passed
00:31:27.560 away, sadly, I, I feel this lady has a bit of a sense of humor as well.
00:31:31.880 This, uh, one video went viral of a, uh, dying woman finding the silver lining in her
00:31:39.120 upcoming fate.
00:31:41.360 Well, folks, the doctors told me that I'm on my way out, meaning I'm dying.
00:31:52.960 And you know what?
00:31:53.960 I'm so damn happy that I'll finally get Justin Trudeau out of my life.
00:32:02.980 I don't even know that woman's name. 0.63
00:32:05.740 Her granddaughter posted the video on TikTok.
00:32:08.620 The granddaughter's username is furyatthewall on TikTok.
00:32:13.620 And then I, I, I don't use TikTok on account of, you know, like the Chinese stuff, but, uh, 1.00
00:32:17.920 like the, the Chinese government's oversight of it.
00:32:19.940 But, uh, every now and then I'll see a video and I, I don't log in or anything.
00:32:23.320 Uh, but I, I went to this person's TikTok and they had posted another video from this
00:32:28.300 woman in which she also had some, uh, well, why don't I just, you know, let granny describe 0.95
00:32:33.820 it.
00:32:36.720 Guess what Justin Trudeau does to me?
00:32:42.120 How he affects me.
00:32:44.240 He gives me the, the word starts with S and ends with T.
00:32:52.460 What would that be?
00:32:54.460 What?
00:32:54.980 I don't know.
00:32:56.400 The shits.
00:32:57.660 He gives you the shits.
00:33:00.700 Cause he's full of shits.
00:33:03.540 Yeah.
00:33:04.580 Is he full of crap?
00:33:05.580 You should go to the hospital and have a, a gallon of shits proof stuff stuck up his
00:33:17.700 butt.
00:33:18.680 Yeah.
00:33:19.580 And maybe it'll finally make sense.
00:33:26.640 By the way, really convincing censoring job there, Sean.
00:33:30.200 I had no idea what word was being uttered there at all.
00:33:33.100 It's like, you take out like a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a syllable.
00:33:36.960 But, uh, uh, anyway, we got to keep our, uh, clean tag on Apple podcast.
00:33:41.060 Uh, granny for prime minister, right? 0.99
00:33:43.860 This is not the video you want to become, you want to have when you're a prime minister.
00:33:47.120 I'm afraid it's the kind of thing you really want to be able to avoid having, you know,
00:33:50.960 dying old ladies wishing that just being thanked.
00:33:53.820 You are the reason I'm not sad that I'm dying.
00:33:56.580 Cause I won't have to deal with you anymore.
00:33:58.780 That was her message.
00:33:59.640 Oh, just horrendous for, uh, uh, this role that here seems major, but also my, is that
00:34:08.400 at this and is with us and that she can last Dustin Trudeau's time as prime minister.
00:34:15.240 I want her to see a light before it, before she leaves this, uh, leaves this earth, leaves
00:34:20.100 this country.
00:34:20.880 It would be a nice thing for her.
00:34:22.560 I have to imagine it may be a while, but maybe if a liberal, uh, senior liberal cabinet
00:34:27.160 minister is watching and is motivated by this to see, to, to give her one last look at
00:34:32.400 the light of Canada without Justin Trudeau before she passes, hopefully she's still with
00:34:36.380 us.
00:34:36.620 And hopefully she can outlast Trudeau.
00:34:39.880 Yeah.
00:34:40.440 What do you think, Noah, do you buy granny's story there that Justin Trudeau gives her the
00:34:43.940 bleeps?
00:34:45.780 Uh, yeah, I mean, I mean, she, he gives me the bleep, so, you know, I kind of, you know,
00:34:49.780 feel that her pain, uh, but you know, kudos to this lady, uh, that, you know, she's able 1.00
00:34:55.820 to turn lemon to lemonade because, uh, you know, she's, you know, on her deathbed, she 0.99
00:35:00.480 could be all depressed about it, like, oh, you know, I'll have these regrets or whatever.
00:35:03.700 Uh, but you know, she's like, you know, there's a positive to this.
00:35:06.420 I don't have to deal with Justin Trudeau's bleeps anymore.
00:35:08.860 Right.
00:35:09.520 So it's, uh, I could, kudos to her, you know, she, she can demonstrate how to, you know,
00:35:14.920 be positive about life.
00:35:16.140 You could take a good message out of this, you know, it doesn't have to be, you know, all
00:35:19.020 depressing all the time.
00:35:20.140 Right.
00:35:21.100 You're, you're a regular Tony Robbins there, Noah, with your, uh, your insights on, on the
00:35:25.280 world and the human spirit.
00:35:26.480 I like it.
00:35:27.140 It's all, it's all positive.
00:35:28.680 It's all, no worries.
00:35:29.560 Hakuna matata.
00:35:30.400 Right.
00:35:32.520 All right.
00:35:33.480 Well, uh, if you are, if you are listening, we stand with you.
00:35:37.360 Harrison's hoping you can hold out until, uh, 2024, but you know what?
00:35:40.880 I, I good to have a sense of humor about the world.
00:35:42.860 If you're not, uh, if you're not laughing, you're crying.
00:35:45.100 And there's been plenty of reason to do that as well.
00:35:47.000 All right.
00:35:47.360 Uh, that does it for us for today.
00:35:49.400 My thanks to Harrison and Noah for coming on and remember everything you've heard is
00:35:54.400 off the record.
00:36:03.280 Okay.
00:36:03.740 I really want to try to get this grandma on my show. 1.00
00:36:05.840 I don't know if it's possible.
00:36:06.720 I'm going to try it.
00:36:08.020 Can you message people on Tik TOK?
00:36:09.500 Do either of you guys know?
00:36:10.840 I don't know.
00:36:11.440 I have no idea, but I think, uh, yeah, I don't know.
00:36:15.220 I feel like Noah has a Tik TOK account, so we should ask, we should like ask Noah to go 0.55
00:36:20.680 and figure that out.
00:36:22.200 You have Tik TOK?
00:36:22.700 Oh gosh.
00:36:23.160 Even though I'm the young one, I, I, I stay away from Tik TOK for the same reasons as 0.94
00:36:26.740 and also like Tik TOK is terrible for your health.
00:36:29.640 It cooks your brain.
00:36:30.800 It's, it's not good.
00:36:31.800 You know, don't recommend it whatsoever.
00:36:33.460 Keep your kids off Tik TOK people. 1.00
00:36:34.780 She, so she just like posted like seven minutes ago, another video, uh, saying her grandma
00:36:41.160 worked in parliament when Pierre Trudeau was in office.
00:36:43.940 Um, and there's like a, she has like a montage of, uh, but still doesn't say the name of
00:36:49.360 the person.
00:36:50.220 Uh, was it a Robert Sanfield, uh, supporter?
00:36:54.380 Bob Sanfield.
00:36:55.140 Oh, you're, you're, you're rocking the Canadian history, uh, today, Noah.
00:36:59.100 I'm a Canadian history, uh, uh, par excellence, you know?
00:37:05.100 I don't know.
00:37:05.760 I think your, uh, your second official language needs a little work there.
00:37:09.720 Oh, I drew the insult to me.
00:37:11.860 I don't know, my long deuxième n'est pas très, très mal.
00:37:17.120 Okay, c'est d'accord.
00:37:18.280 Yeah, no, Noah Chrétien over there.
00:37:20.380 See you guys.
00:37:20.920 I'm out of this French conversation.
00:37:22.300 I'm out of this French conversation.