Juno News - April 02, 2019


Trudeau's carbon tax ＂rebate＂ doesn't make any sense

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Catherine McKenna Justin Trudeau
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Justin Trudeau's carbon tax is being implemented across the country on April 1st, and there's a lot of talk about how it's going to make you rich. But is it actually going to help you get more money back from the government?

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00:00:00.000 There's one important angle to the carbon tax that I think we need to discuss right now.
00:00:08.800 Now that it is brought in on April 1st, no, not an April Fool's joke, the real deal,
00:00:13.500 the four provinces that do not want it, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and New Brunswick,
00:00:19.040 are having it forced upon them.
00:00:21.060 All while there's a Saskatchewan court reference question underway that may or may not prove 0.82
00:00:25.740 whether it's even legal for Justin Trudeau to do the darn thing in the first place.
00:00:30.200 But that question right now has to do with a lot of the spin that the Liberal government is selling you on.
00:00:34.520 The question of whether or not it will make you richer.
00:00:38.700 It's a claim they make.
00:00:40.140 They say we're going to make polluters pay. 1.00
00:00:42.620 And that's a debatable statement in and of itself.
00:00:44.960 But we're going to make polluters pay and put money in your pockets. 1.00
00:00:48.840 There is an imperative to put a price on pollution.
00:00:52.680 And if there are costs associated with for average families,
00:00:56.700 we will more than compensate those families for those costs.
00:01:01.380 Well, how are they going to do that?
00:01:03.020 They talk about this rebate as if you're going to get the money back
00:01:06.300 and then you're going to get a premium.
00:01:07.880 So you're going to get even more money back.
00:01:10.640 How do they calculate that, though?
00:01:12.440 That was a part that was lost from the conversation.
00:01:15.220 Well, here's how they're actually going to do it.
00:01:17.040 There's going to be a line on your income tax return
00:01:19.380 and you check off that line to say whether or not you are claiming it.
00:01:22.520 And then based on the province you live in
00:01:24.500 and whether or not you have a spouse and whether or not you have kids,
00:01:27.300 they determine the set amount that you get back.
00:01:30.520 That's right.
00:01:31.280 It is a set amount.
00:01:33.280 See, here's the part that they're not really advertising to you.
00:01:36.740 For you to actually get more money back,
00:01:39.060 you would need to know how much you're paying in the carbon tax.
00:01:43.500 How are they going to know that as the government?
00:01:45.620 They're not.
00:01:46.280 How are you going to know that?
00:01:47.860 Quite frankly, you're not.
00:01:49.700 I had one guy write to me on social media.
00:01:51.460 He said, hey, it's not rocket science.
00:01:53.060 You just need to know how much gas you're paying on average
00:01:55.680 or keep your bills and then figure it out that way.
00:01:58.380 Because Catherine McKenna's conceded,
00:02:00.360 yes, it's going to increase the price of gas 4.5 cents per liter.
00:02:03.780 Well, hold on a second, though.
00:02:05.080 It's not that easy.
00:02:06.660 The carbon tax, yes, it will directly affect the price of gas
00:02:09.820 and of natural gas as well for home heating.
00:02:12.180 It'll also affect virtually all of the economic activity we do,
00:02:16.800 all the consumer products,
00:02:18.120 many, many examples.
00:02:20.000 The most obvious one is that
00:02:21.460 there are all these transportation companies
00:02:23.500 that ship goods back and forth.
00:02:25.280 They are seeing their prices increase with the added fuel costs.
00:02:28.320 That will get passed on to the consumer.
00:02:30.420 How do you calculate that?
00:02:31.780 That would be incredibly, incredibly difficult.
00:02:34.400 To the gentleman's point that it's not rocket science,
00:02:36.520 you're right.
00:02:37.400 Rocket science is probably easier
00:02:39.500 to do the calculations they do in that field
00:02:41.720 than to do this calculation.
00:02:43.480 How much you are actually shelling out.
00:02:46.860 So how does the government know
00:02:48.340 whether or not you're actually getting more money back?
00:02:50.980 Well, they've just done their own calculations
00:02:52.660 to try to determine exactly what they think
00:02:55.260 the averages will be.
00:02:57.720 But can you really trust those numbers?
00:02:59.820 Can you trust those calculations?
00:03:01.480 We don't know the work that went into them.
00:03:03.520 We don't know the whole back backstory on it.
00:03:05.860 They haven't provided their calculations
00:03:07.400 because, of course,
00:03:09.140 they're not even sure the ramifications of this.
00:03:12.160 I mean, you can't just add a new tax to the economy
00:03:14.300 and instantly know how it's going to be absorbed
00:03:16.720 into all these different sectors.
00:03:18.860 So probably the maximum you can get in Ontario
00:03:21.080 is about $337.
00:03:23.320 That's if you're married and you have two kids
00:03:25.620 and you have something called the rural premium.
00:03:28.400 So if you live outside of a city,
00:03:30.140 you're going to get an extra 10%.
00:03:32.020 Why is that?
00:03:33.160 Well, I guess they're acknowledging
00:03:34.260 that people in rural communities
00:03:35.680 are going to be driving more,
00:03:36.800 but hang on a second.
00:03:38.600 Are you saying that people in rural areas
00:03:40.280 are only driving 10% more
00:03:42.480 than people in urban areas?
00:03:43.880 It's just not true.
00:03:46.720 So we have no way of verifying this statement at all.
00:03:49.860 One of the biggest claims
00:03:51.220 that the Liberals are using
00:03:52.420 to justify all of this,
00:03:54.340 to justify why we should just be quiet
00:03:56.480 and take it and accept it as a fait accompli,
00:03:59.340 just can't be proven.
00:04:02.000 And they're the ones who talk a lot
00:04:03.420 about evidence-based policy.
00:04:04.920 Go figure.
00:04:07.480 Take care.
00:04:08.300 Go figure.
00:04:08.720 Go figure.
00:04:09.680 Go figure.
00:04:10.340 Go figure.
00:04:11.680 Go figure.
00:04:12.620 Go figure.
00:04:12.900 Go figure.
00:04:13.340 Go figure.
00:04:13.880 Go figure.