Juno News - December 07, 2019


Trudeau's ＂Mean Girls＂ act is going to cost Canada


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Length

4 minutes

Words per minute

183.68195

Word count

884

Sentence count

44

Harmful content

Misogyny

1

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Summary

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Justin Trudeau was caught on a hot mic mocking Donald Trump at a NATO event, and it went viral. So what do we do about it? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? And what does it mean for the relationship between Canada and the United States?

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 I've always said I don't do the gotcha moments. I don't care for those moments that go viral when
00:00:12.120 one person says something not so perfect and then everyone goes nuts to try and get them
00:00:17.060 cancelled, to get them fired, and try to take a line that's not that big of a deal and turn it
00:00:22.320 into something much bigger than it is. The disproportionate outrage. We just had the
00:00:27.340 Don Cherry affair and I said you know what relax about Don Cherry and I said the same thing about
00:00:32.320 Jess Allen. I was in hashtagging to get her fired as well. So how do we chalk up this whole Justin
00:00:38.600 Trudeau Donald Trump insult given all of that given we want to be reasonable people who don't try and
00:00:44.540 make mountains out of molehills here. What do we do? Well Justin Trudeau caught on that hot mic kind
00:00:49.900 of laughing mocking Donald Trump saying oh look at him he gets up there at the podium he goes 40
00:00:54.700 minutes later he goes oh yeah yeah yeah that was kind of what Trudeau said and you got to see the
00:00:58.440 video too it's not just the audio it's the sort of collective laughing. They looked like a bunch of
00:01:03.960 mean girls and Donald Trump he wasn't having it. He was a little upset called him two-faced still said
00:01:09.180 Trudeau was a nice guy but clearly saying ah Justin's just upset that we got him against the ropes on the
00:01:14.260 NATO defense spending and then Donald Trump leaves that NATO event a little early. Clearly there's a
00:01:20.000 little distance been put between these two guys right now. So so what do we say do we pile on
00:01:24.660 Trudeau against this? Yes and no. Does it matter? It does and it doesn't. Here's the ways in which it
00:01:31.200 doesn't matter. It's not that wild of a comment to make. I do not have Trump derangement syndrome but I
00:01:36.760 think what Justin Trudeau said is pretty true. Donald Trump does like to yammer away at those press
00:01:41.420 conferences and let's be honest turn on CNN MSNBC at any given moment turn it on right now and you're
00:01:47.360 going to find someone saying something way more crazier and out to lunch about Trump than what
00:01:52.480 Trudeau said. So if you got a bunch of people standing around at some social event basically
00:01:56.980 some guys at the bar kind of shooting the breeze Trudeau said something very tame and more or less
00:02:02.760 pretty accurate. Here's the problem though. This is diplomacy. It's not the same thing. This is not
00:02:09.880 Coach's Corner. These gatherings are by their nature entirely transactional events. What that means
00:02:16.580 is they're not there hanging around in that circle having a chat because they're at some sort of
00:02:21.480 wedding or birthday party and they're just there for a social occasion. They are there because they
00:02:26.180 want something out of each other. Every country goes with a list of things they want from different
00:02:31.380 countries to try and accomplish their policy files. Now there are certain times in our in our history
00:02:36.400 in our foreign policy where Canada doesn't want too much from the United States. I mean obviously
00:02:41.380 they're our main ally our main trading partner but we don't have a big wish list from them. Things
00:02:46.500 are kind of in a lull. They're in the ebbs and flows. Right now though we're at kind of a peak
00:02:51.740 for wanting things from the United States. We want USMCA to go off without hitch. That's the new NAFTA.
00:02:57.660 Donald Trump does as well. He wants Congress to pass it but we certainly need it and it matters to us.
00:03:03.340 Defense issues are more and more in the news and as the U.S. has been reminding us we're relying on them
00:03:08.860 more than they would like and they want us to bolster our own defenses. So the relationship is facing
00:03:14.440 a few question marks at that point as well and I think most importantly
00:03:18.120 and most urgently is the China file. Every single day there is a new story about whether it's the
00:03:25.600 ambassador from China to Canada saying outlandish things about us, further threats about retaliation,
00:03:31.820 what's going to happen if we don't release Bang Wangzhu, what's going to happen if we ban Huawei and so forth.
00:03:36.600 I mean this thing matters pretty much every 24-hour news cycle and what that also means is that every
00:03:43.660 12 hours, every 24 hours, someone from Canada is going to want to pick up the phone and call the
00:03:48.380 White House and maybe call in a favor. And what this little mocking thing did, this little unseriousness 0.99
00:03:55.560 that Justin Trudeau did, it made Donald Trump and those in the White House a little less likely,
00:04:01.220 when they look and go, okay, who's calling? Oh, it's JT, a little less likely to pick up the phone.
00:04:07.400 And that might be the moment when we need them to pick up the phone and do us a favor the most.
00:04:14.240 Diplomacy matters. Justin Trudeau, did he say the most ultimate diss in the world? He did not,
00:04:20.380 but based on how he said it, the situation, the context in which he said it, he screwed up.
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