Juno News - March 18, 2024


Trudeau thinks about quitting daily. What's stopping him?

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Justin Trudeau says he thinks daily about quitting his job, a story about him saying his job is challenging, and a song about Brian Mulrooney singing for Donald Trump. Plus, a tribute to the late conservative icon, Brian Mulrow.

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:06.540 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by TrueNorth.
00:00:13.980 Hello and welcome to you all.
00:00:17.000 Happy Monday.
00:00:17.960 I hope it's a happy Monday.
00:00:19.080 It is Monday, March 18th, 2024, the day after St. Patrick's Day.
00:00:24.740 And I decided to honor St. Patrick's Day by watching Brian Mulrooney sing
00:00:31.660 When Irish Eyes Are Smiling alongside President Ronald Reagan.
00:00:36.800 And then I also learned my friend Mark Stein had written a column about that song
00:00:40.900 on yesterday's Song of the Week, which is a feature he does at his website, Stein Online.
00:00:45.960 And he also had a video of Brian Mulrooney singing it for Donald Trump,
00:00:50.720 which I didn't know existed.
00:00:51.720 And I would share the link, I would share the link with you, but, or not the link,
00:00:56.040 I would share the song with you.
00:00:57.380 But every time we even do like the slightest bit of music,
00:01:00.700 we get some ridiculous YouTube copyright strike.
00:01:03.800 And I don't want, you know, the estate of Brian Mulrooney via YouTube coming after us.
00:01:08.560 But Brian Mulrooney does have a state funeral coming up,
00:01:11.260 and it'll be quite interesting to see what becomes of that.
00:01:14.740 He is a figure that is quite significant and quite pivotal in Canadian politics.
00:01:19.040 And I know he wasn't always the most popular among many, well,
00:01:23.360 certainly among people in the West or a lot of people in conservatism.
00:01:26.380 But he was very influential, very transformative,
00:01:29.340 and very well-liked and well-respected across the board.
00:01:32.700 So we'll keep an eye out for that.
00:01:34.200 And I know this afternoon in the House of Commons,
00:01:36.460 there are also going to be some tributes.
00:01:38.180 This is the first week in, it was basically like three and a half years,
00:01:41.860 it feels like, that the House of Commons is back sitting again.
00:01:45.180 And they're only back for, I think it's a week or two weeks,
00:01:47.440 and then they're off again.
00:01:48.500 Like, you really wonder if members of Parliament are doing anything.
00:01:51.680 But that is a discussion for another show.
00:01:53.840 I'll tell you someone who doesn't want to do anything.
00:01:56.860 That is Justin Trudeau, who you may have seen this story making the waves.
00:02:02.300 As always, you oftentimes get better coverage from non-Canadian media
00:02:06.900 of what's happening in Canada than you do by the official Canadian press.
00:02:11.520 But BBC ran this story.
00:02:13.640 Canada's Justin Trudeau says he thinks daily about leaving crazy job,
00:02:20.640 crazy job being in quotation marks.
00:02:23.100 It was a story that was based off of a French language interview
00:02:26.440 that Justin Trudeau did with Red Seal Canada,
00:02:29.040 in which, and again, my French is decent, it's passable.
00:02:32.680 I do not pretend that I can navigate the intricacies
00:02:35.300 of linguistics and translation,
00:02:37.740 which this story has really come down to.
00:02:40.520 Because Trudeau made a comment in the interview,
00:02:44.120 which was very important.
00:02:45.680 He said his job was a word that BBC originally translated to boring,
00:02:52.820 and then was very quickly subject to a bunch of haggling
00:02:57.100 and negotiating by the Twitterati about what he really meant by that.
00:03:01.680 And some people said, no, no, no, no, no.
00:03:02.980 It doesn't mean boring.
00:03:04.480 It means challenging.
00:03:05.820 And people have said, well, no, it clearly means boring.
00:03:07.740 And people are saying it means challenging.
00:03:09.580 BBC eventually folded.
00:03:12.120 And they ran an update to their story.
00:03:15.100 And in the story, it now says it's super tough.
00:03:18.460 It's very challenging at times.
00:03:20.360 So originally they translated what he said as boring.
00:03:23.420 Now they're saying translating, but challenging.
00:03:26.340 But what is clear, what is accepted,
00:03:28.400 is that Trudeau said, I think about quitting every day.
00:03:32.680 So whether it is a story about him saying that he wants to quit
00:03:37.760 because his job is challenging,
00:03:39.140 or he wants to quit because his job is boring,
00:03:42.540 I think there are a lot of Canadians,
00:03:44.080 certainly from what I have heard people saying online
00:03:46.180 in the last couple of days that are like,
00:03:47.540 why are you thinking about quitting?
00:03:49.640 Why are you not just doing it?
00:03:51.120 Now, I would, of course, never go down that road.
00:03:53.660 I would never tell this man what he should do.
00:03:55.900 I would never encourage him to take a walk in the snow.
00:03:59.180 I would never encourage him to think just a little bit harder
00:04:02.700 about whether or not he wants to be in this job at all.
00:04:06.260 That is something I will leave for other people.
00:04:08.980 But it is interesting that he is trying to play a victim here.
00:04:12.200 He is trying to tell Canadians that he has it so tough.
00:04:16.180 It's so difficult being him.
00:04:18.080 And he thinks about quitting,
00:04:19.320 but then he quickly pulls back and says,
00:04:21.060 oh, no, no, no.
00:04:21.900 But what kind of man would I be if I did that?
00:04:24.880 That was the one translation.
00:04:26.760 I'll pull it up what he said there.
00:04:28.320 And again, I'm relying on another translation,
00:04:32.620 but I believe his line,
00:04:34.860 I had it up here a moment ago.
00:04:36.260 My tabs have just decided to take on a life of their own here.
00:04:40.460 Ah, here it is.
00:04:41.400 He says, I couldn't be the man I am
00:04:44.100 and give up the fight at this point.
00:04:46.220 Now, when you try to get into Justin Trudeau's mind,
00:04:49.640 you'll find that you have difficulty finding it.
00:04:52.360 But if you manage to find it and you manage to get there,
00:04:55.080 one point that I will raise about this that's incredibly important
00:04:58.740 is that he doesn't seem like the kind of guy
00:05:01.880 that cares about what happens to the country
00:05:04.180 or even his party after he's gone.
00:05:06.740 He does really come across to me,
00:05:08.620 and again, this is me playing armchair psychologist here,
00:05:12.000 but he seems like the kind of guy that's okay
00:05:13.840 just burning it all down behind him if he's gone,
00:05:16.620 which is why, despite my protests in the past,
00:05:19.540 that Justin Trudeau is not going to leave
00:05:21.520 unless he is forced out either by his own party or by Canadians.
00:05:25.700 I don't think he's going to take the step down
00:05:28.340 before the election in the way,
00:05:31.000 I mean, speaking of Brian Mulroney,
00:05:32.400 the way that Brian Mulroney did in 1993
00:05:34.540 and the way that other prime ministers in this country have done.
00:05:38.960 So what we are going to see
00:05:41.480 and what we're going to have happen here
00:05:43.380 is a very significant change in course for Justin Trudeau.
00:05:48.860 I think he's going to start doing what anyone does
00:05:51.700 when they're backed into a corner.
00:05:53.160 He is going to get aggressive.
00:05:55.040 He's going to get nasty.
00:05:56.440 He's going to get dirty.
00:05:57.380 The Liberal Party is going to basically turn the next election
00:06:00.540 into a bare-knuckle street fight
00:06:01.900 because they have no other options.
00:06:04.340 And if you're a Liberal member of Parliament,
00:06:07.580 and I talked about this,
00:06:08.620 I can't remember if it was last week or two weeks ago.
00:06:10.500 It's probably come up a couple of times,
00:06:12.020 but if you're a Liberal member of Parliament right now,
00:06:13.960 your political future hangs in the balance
00:06:15.940 because Justin Trudeau, if he is the captain of a sinking ship,
00:06:20.000 all of these MPs are going to go down with him.
00:06:23.980 And look, it's all well and good
00:06:25.200 if he wants to say that his job is so challenging
00:06:27.160 and it's so difficult being him and boo-hoo-hoo.
00:06:29.460 But there are a lot of people whose political lives,
00:06:32.180 whose livelihoods depend on that party
00:06:35.540 getting its act together right now.
00:06:36.960 And again, far be it for me to try to give free advice
00:06:39.780 to the Liberal Party of Canada,
00:06:41.000 not that they listen to the likes of me
00:06:42.800 or anything like that.
00:06:44.800 But the point that I'll stress here,
00:06:46.940 which I think is tremendously important,
00:06:48.900 is that it's amazing how many MPs
00:06:51.640 don't really seem to realize this
00:06:53.240 or don't care about this.
00:06:55.220 Again, if you are a member of Parliament,
00:06:57.200 what was the last polling I saw
00:06:59.180 said the Conservatives were on track
00:07:01.380 to win 221 votes,
00:07:03.800 seats in the next election.
00:07:05.260 221 seats out of 338.
00:07:07.560 I think there are going to be a few more seats,
00:07:09.400 but 221 seats is massive.
00:07:11.920 That is more than Brian Mulroney had
00:07:14.420 when he had his supermajority.
00:07:15.800 It's more than John Diefenbaker had
00:07:17.660 when he had his supermajority.
00:07:19.380 And it's going to be incredibly difficult
00:07:21.680 if you're one of those Liberal members
00:07:22.980 of Parliament in Toronto,
00:07:24.780 even in the suburbs of Vancouver,
00:07:27.800 in southwestern Ontario,
00:07:29.580 especially if you're an MP that's only had
00:07:31.680 maybe one shot, one term, maybe two terms,
00:07:35.240 you haven't quite qualified for your pension yet.
00:07:37.600 And these MPs are now facing an election
00:07:40.040 that is going to be an absolute bloodbath
00:07:42.040 for the Liberals
00:07:43.140 because the Liberals have been so unrepentant
00:07:46.360 about their strategy.
00:07:48.100 They've been so unrepentant about their track record
00:07:50.380 and they refuse to accept
00:07:52.340 that anyone else
00:07:54.360 could have a more resonant vision for the country
00:07:59.120 than the one that they are putting forward.
00:08:02.280 And I wanted to share a clip
00:08:04.160 because I think this is actually illuminating.
00:08:05.940 I spent a fair bit of the show last week
00:08:08.440 talking about the great carbon tax revolt,
00:08:11.340 talking about all of the provinces
00:08:12.760 that are now stepping up and saying
00:08:14.920 that they do not want
00:08:17.420 to have Justin Trudeau's carbon tax.
00:08:19.560 They do not want it.
00:08:20.280 They do not like it.
00:08:21.360 It's the old green eggs and ham thing.
00:08:23.040 I do not want your tax, Sam.
00:08:24.900 I do not like it.
00:08:26.020 I won't bother trying to rhyme.
00:08:28.000 But the whole point here
00:08:29.340 is that these premiers
00:08:30.660 do not think that this is viable for them,
00:08:33.520 whether it's for economic reasons,
00:08:34.980 political reasons,
00:08:35.840 or a combination of the two.
00:08:37.780 And I want to share a clip.
00:08:39.140 This is Pierre Polyev.
00:08:40.180 He was doing an East Coast swing last week,
00:08:42.680 continuing his Axe the Tax,
00:08:44.760 Spike the Hike campaign,
00:08:46.080 which I guess, look, is clearly working
00:08:48.060 given where premiers are going on this.
00:08:50.140 But this was what he had said
00:08:51.620 facing down this increase in the carbon tax,
00:08:55.140 which is coming in on April 1st.
00:08:57.120 The tax hike of 23% is scheduled to take effect
00:09:05.760 in just a few weeks.
00:09:07.600 April Fool's Day,
00:09:09.020 and with Justin Trudeau and the liberals,
00:09:11.040 the joke is on you.
00:09:14.160 Trudeau will hike gas prices
00:09:15.720 at stations like this one.
00:09:18.340 Home heating bills will rise across the country.
00:09:20.840 Farmers, fishermen, truckers,
00:09:24.580 who all bring us food,
00:09:26.100 will be paying more
00:09:26.960 and passing on those prices
00:09:28.580 at the grocery store
00:09:30.300 to Canadians who are already starving.
00:09:33.060 That's why common-sense conservatives
00:09:35.440 are standing with 70% of Canadians
00:09:38.880 in the polls
00:09:39.640 and 70% of provincial premiers
00:09:42.760 who have called for Trudeau
00:09:44.920 to spike the hike.
00:09:47.760 Cancel this heartless
00:09:50.400 and cruel April 1st tax hike.
00:09:54.140 There will be two common-sense conservative motions
00:09:57.940 before the House of Commons next week.
00:10:01.720 Liberal and NDP members of Parliament
00:10:04.040 will have to decide
00:10:05.160 whether they vote for their constituents'
00:10:07.420 affordable gas, food, and homes,
00:10:10.080 or whether they will vote
00:10:12.000 with Justin Trudeau
00:10:13.960 to dig deeper into the pockets
00:10:16.020 of Canadians who are freezing and starving.
00:10:19.800 That will be the decision.
00:10:21.940 Those votes are part of what Polly Ev announced
00:10:25.460 about a week and a day ago,
00:10:27.640 a so-called massive pressure campaign
00:10:30.160 on the government.
00:10:31.500 Look, I would love nothing more
00:10:33.660 than to see the carbon tax
00:10:34.920 and a great many other Canadian taxes,
00:10:36.500 by the way,
00:10:36.920 brought out to the woodshed and shot,
00:10:39.780 but I am not optimistic.
00:10:41.380 The Liberals and NDP
00:10:42.460 have, at the federal level,
00:10:44.640 doubled and tripled
00:10:45.640 and quadrupled down on this.
00:10:47.080 There have been so few
00:10:48.320 that are interested in the idea
00:10:50.300 of tax relief,
00:10:51.520 let alone carbon tax relief.
00:10:53.180 And I should say, by the way,
00:10:54.180 on a mea culpa,
00:10:54.940 last week I mentioned
00:10:56.140 on this show Ken Hardy,
00:10:59.280 and I was crediting Ken Hardy
00:11:00.880 as being the guy
00:11:03.680 who stood up against the carbon tax.
00:11:05.960 Then I realized when I was emailed
00:11:08.460 by someone,
00:11:09.160 Ken Hardy is not.
00:11:10.720 Ken Hardy is a Liberal MP from BC.
00:11:13.540 I was thinking of Ken McDonald,
00:11:15.060 who is the Newfoundland MP,
00:11:16.980 so I apologize very much to,
00:11:18.680 well, I apologize to Ken McDonald
00:11:19.860 for comparing him to Ken Hardy,
00:11:21.200 which is, I think,
00:11:22.020 tremendously offensive
00:11:22.820 for several reasons.
00:11:23.820 And I also apologize to Ken McDonald
00:11:26.380 for not giving credit
00:11:27.500 where it was due.
00:11:28.200 But the point that I raised
00:11:29.340 was that Ken McDonald
00:11:30.180 was against the carbon tax,
00:11:31.940 but seemed to pipe down
00:11:33.160 once the federal government,
00:11:34.800 once Trudeau gave Newfoundland
00:11:36.620 a bit of a reprieve,
00:11:37.820 didn't really care about reprieve
00:11:39.000 for the rest of the country,
00:11:39.900 cared about his own constituents,
00:11:41.520 fine, but not exactly committed
00:11:43.600 to the broader message
00:11:45.440 of carbon tax relief for Canadians.
00:11:48.460 But we're seeing so much gaslighting
00:11:50.320 on this.
00:11:51.400 And when I say gaslighting,
00:11:52.700 I really mean this.
00:11:54.000 Do you remember that old play,
00:11:55.180 Gaslight?
00:11:55.680 It was basically about
00:11:57.320 an abusive husband
00:11:58.340 that manipulates his wife
00:11:59.960 by going around
00:12:00.720 and turning the gaslights
00:12:01.860 on and off
00:12:02.500 and telling her
00:12:03.780 that he had nothing to do with it
00:12:06.060 to make her think
00:12:06.740 she had gone crazy.
00:12:07.680 That is where the term comes from.
00:12:10.020 There's your little bit
00:12:10.660 of trivia for the day.
00:12:11.700 There's also a Dixie Chick song 0.63
00:12:13.380 called Gaslighter,
00:12:14.760 which, I mean,
00:12:16.140 it's Dixie Chick,
00:12:16.720 so I don't particularly love it.
00:12:18.240 But anyway,
00:12:19.200 I know very little about pop culture,
00:12:21.700 so when I do know a little bit,
00:12:23.020 I try to slip it in there.
00:12:24.320 It's not like sports
00:12:24.920 where I know absolutely nothing.
00:12:26.360 But the whole point
00:12:27.500 is Justin Trudeau gaslights
00:12:29.040 Canadians on the carbon tax
00:12:31.120 from telling us that,
00:12:32.840 oh, well, you know,
00:12:33.660 we all end up better off on this
00:12:36.020 to telling us
00:12:36.600 that it is going to save the planet.
00:12:39.640 This is one I had to share
00:12:41.420 before we go to our Monday friend,
00:12:43.240 Chris Sims.
00:12:43.680 This was Justin Trudeau
00:12:44.800 trying a little bit
00:12:46.320 of this carbon tax gaslighting
00:12:48.180 in real time
00:12:49.360 right before your very eyes last week.
00:12:54.320 I think a lot of people
00:13:05.780 are seeing the public pressure
00:13:08.200 of folks who are worried
00:13:12.200 about the cost of living
00:13:13.540 and worried about affordability.
00:13:14.900 And one of the challenges
00:13:16.800 that is out there
00:13:18.060 is that everyone seems
00:13:21.400 to be talking about
00:13:22.280 the price we've brought in
00:13:23.480 on pollution.
00:13:25.360 Nobody is talking about
00:13:27.500 the Canada carbon rebate
00:13:28.940 that puts more money
00:13:30.680 in the pockets of 8 out of 10 families
00:13:33.300 across the country
00:13:34.300 than the price on pollution
00:13:36.640 actually costs them.
00:13:38.180 So taking away the price on pollution
00:13:41.480 or leveling it off where it is
00:13:44.900 would actually mean less money
00:13:47.540 in the pockets of 8 out of 10 Canadians
00:13:50.320 in the jurisdictions
00:13:51.700 where it's imposed,
00:13:52.960 which doesn't make sense.
00:13:55.320 Canadians are squeezed on groceries,
00:13:57.240 they're squeezed on rent,
00:13:58.300 they're squeezed on cost of living.
00:14:00.520 We are putting more money
00:14:02.260 in their pockets
00:14:02.980 four times a year
00:14:05.140 with the Canada carbon rebate,
00:14:06.860 and we're going to continue
00:14:08.300 to do that.
00:14:10.180 So what are you going to say
00:14:10.900 to Mr. Fury though specifically?
00:14:12.440 Do you think he's
00:14:13.100 a short-term thinker?
00:14:14.520 I think Mr. Fury
00:14:15.880 is continuing to bow
00:14:17.380 to political pressure.
00:14:20.020 I think Canadians
00:14:21.720 in Newfoundland and Labrador
00:14:23.120 and right across the country
00:14:24.360 expect their governments
00:14:25.500 to do the right thing.
00:14:26.840 And the right thing right now
00:14:28.080 is not just fighting climate change
00:14:29.780 and spurring innovation
00:14:30.760 for the future.
00:14:31.980 It's about being there
00:14:33.320 to support Canadians
00:14:34.320 during this affordability crisis
00:14:35.840 and the Canada carbon rebate
00:14:37.640 helps out 80% of Canadians
00:14:40.600 with more money
00:14:42.120 than they pay
00:14:43.080 in terms of a price on pollution.
00:14:44.900 It's basic math
00:14:46.180 and we're going to continue
00:14:47.240 to be there
00:14:47.840 to support Canadians
00:14:48.920 with the Canada carbon rebate.
00:14:51.800 Basic math.
00:14:53.160 Is it as basic
00:14:54.140 as those poll numbers
00:14:55.000 that show you
00:14:55.640 getting absolutely trounced
00:14:57.000 in the next election?
00:14:58.220 Okay, that was a low blow.
00:14:59.860 I apologize for nothing.
00:15:01.260 But anyway,
00:15:02.220 this is Justin Trudeau
00:15:03.280 telling us
00:15:03.760 that we're all better off.
00:15:04.880 So the increase in groceries,
00:15:06.580 the increase in gas,
00:15:07.540 the increase in home heating,
00:15:08.680 no, no, no.
00:15:09.380 All of that pales
00:15:10.560 in comparison
00:15:11.120 to those nice little
00:15:12.280 carbon tax checks
00:15:13.300 we get from the government.
00:15:14.440 80% of us.
00:15:15.580 Well, it's not much
00:15:16.360 of a cold comfort
00:15:17.260 if you are in the 20%
00:15:18.880 and it's a very cold comfort
00:15:20.500 if you can't afford
00:15:21.240 to heat your home
00:15:22.000 in part because
00:15:23.140 of the carbon tax.
00:15:24.820 And I love that little bit
00:15:26.160 about Andrew Fury,
00:15:27.180 the Premier of Newfoundland,
00:15:28.460 elected with a mandate.
00:15:29.820 He's a Liberal.
00:15:30.400 He's an ideological kin member
00:15:33.000 of Justin Trudeau's Liberals.
00:15:34.860 But, oh, no, no, no.
00:15:35.880 He's just being targeted. 1.00
00:15:37.580 He's too dumb 1.00
00:15:38.380 to know what's good for him. 1.00
00:15:39.560 He's bowing
00:15:40.500 to political pressure
00:15:41.880 because he spoke up
00:15:43.200 and said Newfoundlanders
00:15:44.380 can't afford
00:15:45.080 the carbon tax.
00:15:46.320 Chris Sims
00:15:46.740 is the Alberta Director
00:15:48.160 with the Canadian
00:15:48.820 Taxpayers Federation
00:15:49.680 and joins us every Monday.
00:15:51.060 Once again,
00:15:51.960 always good to see you, Chris.
00:15:53.140 Thanks for coming on today.
00:15:54.720 Likewise.
00:15:55.360 Thanks, Andrew,
00:15:56.000 for playing that clip again.
00:15:58.500 Do you feel, again,
00:16:00.700 this is the whole
00:16:01.820 carbon tax rebrand
00:16:03.420 that we've talked about
00:16:04.340 in past weeks
00:16:05.000 where they say,
00:16:05.900 no, no, no,
00:16:06.200 the problem isn't the policy.
00:16:07.680 The problem is that
00:16:08.640 Canadians don't understand it.
00:16:10.420 And their effort to do that
00:16:11.780 is by just disingenuously
00:16:14.060 claiming that we're all better off.
00:16:15.780 And again,
00:16:16.260 he says it's basic math.
00:16:17.960 If we're all better off
00:16:19.300 by the tax,
00:16:19.980 if we're profiting from this,
00:16:21.920 then what was the point of it all?
00:16:24.220 That the only mechanism
00:16:25.940 by which this makes sense
00:16:27.240 for the government
00:16:27.840 is if it's penalizing people.
00:16:30.480 Okay.
00:16:31.060 So there's so much to unpack here.
00:16:32.620 I just wanted to say
00:16:33.400 to your viewers
00:16:34.120 who are sane,
00:16:35.360 we know, okay?
00:16:36.500 We know what he's saying
00:16:37.960 doesn't make sense.
00:16:39.260 We know that the tax
00:16:40.680 will make you poorer,
00:16:41.900 that it doesn't make you richer
00:16:43.140 when the government
00:16:43.680 takes more of your money.
00:16:44.620 Okay.
00:16:44.800 All of that is established.
00:16:46.480 What we're going to try
00:16:47.140 to break down here
00:16:48.000 is some of the pretzel-like
00:16:49.940 twisting and thinking
00:16:51.200 that the prime minister
00:16:52.600 is trying to engage in here.
00:16:53.980 Okay.
00:16:54.520 So number one,
00:16:55.840 exactly to your point, Andrew,
00:16:57.780 if the carbon tax
00:16:59.380 actually costs you nothing
00:17:01.100 or you get magically
00:17:02.940 more money back
00:17:04.080 every single time you pay it,
00:17:06.300 well then,
00:17:07.480 where is the stick?
00:17:10.240 Where's the deterrence
00:17:11.660 for using oil and gas products?
00:17:13.940 Because some people might forget
00:17:15.920 with all this baffle gab
00:17:17.060 that the prime minister
00:17:17.740 is putting out,
00:17:18.660 the liberal government
00:17:20.100 of Canada
00:17:20.800 put through a carbon tax
00:17:22.640 in order to punish people
00:17:24.560 for using things
00:17:25.920 like oil and gas.
00:17:27.240 So gasoline, diesel,
00:17:28.760 propane, natural gas,
00:17:29.980 kerosene, you name it.
00:17:31.280 If it comes from oil and gas,
00:17:33.200 you're going to get
00:17:33.800 carbon taxed on it.
00:17:35.200 Their thinking,
00:17:36.360 way back when they first
00:17:37.740 invented this thing,
00:17:38.820 was that they would stick you,
00:17:40.700 they would hit you
00:17:41.380 with the stick
00:17:42.100 until you moved over
00:17:44.140 and switched
00:17:45.040 to another energy source.
00:17:47.500 problem is
00:17:49.020 most Canadians,
00:17:50.680 the vast majority of us,
00:17:52.020 do not have access
00:17:52.860 to an affordable,
00:17:54.460 abundant,
00:17:54.920 alternative energy source.
00:17:56.940 So there's nothing
00:17:57.460 to switch to.
00:17:58.360 So it just turns
00:17:59.160 into a punishment.
00:18:00.260 So that didn't work,
00:18:01.740 okay?
00:18:02.180 Even if we only emit
00:18:03.980 less than 2%
00:18:04.860 of the world's
00:18:05.680 global emissions,
00:18:06.840 fine,
00:18:07.160 that still didn't work
00:18:08.060 because people still
00:18:08.900 need to drive to work
00:18:09.920 and heat their homes
00:18:10.580 and eat food.
00:18:11.600 So then they had to
00:18:12.540 change their comms plan.
00:18:13.880 It's like,
00:18:14.280 oh, okay,
00:18:15.080 we're not robbing you blind.
00:18:17.000 We're actually
00:18:17.740 making you richer.
00:18:19.320 That flies in the face 0.51
00:18:20.880 of the idea
00:18:21.620 of a deterrence.
00:18:23.020 That's the whole point
00:18:24.180 of this carbon tax
00:18:25.560 was to make stuff
00:18:26.380 more expensive 0.95
00:18:27.020 so that us dummies 0.96
00:18:28.560 would switch 0.95
00:18:29.320 to other things.
00:18:30.360 But that's not
00:18:31.040 working out for them.
00:18:32.400 No,
00:18:32.720 and the hilarious thing
00:18:33.980 is that if you were
00:18:35.080 to do something,
00:18:36.060 if you were to enact
00:18:36.880 a policy that makes
00:18:37.980 people richer,
00:18:39.060 my goodness,
00:18:39.900 are there better ways
00:18:40.800 to sell that?
00:18:41.700 Like,
00:18:42.040 hey, everyone,
00:18:42.700 here's a free check.
00:18:43.880 Like,
00:18:44.000 this is just,
00:18:45.060 it makes you feel
00:18:46.160 you're being hoodwinked.
00:18:47.380 Well,
00:18:47.560 I mean,
00:18:47.760 you are being hoodwinked,
00:18:48.740 but the government's
00:18:49.580 saying,
00:18:49.780 okay,
00:18:50.080 you pay us,
00:18:51.240 you know,
00:18:51.460 a dollar more
00:18:52.280 every time you do this,
00:18:53.440 then we're going
00:18:53.900 to give you $5
00:18:54.820 every quarter.
00:18:56.560 And you're thinking,
00:18:57.200 well,
00:18:57.360 okay,
00:18:58.100 this is how con men speak.
00:19:01.120 Yes.
00:19:01.260 This is how con men
00:19:02.520 try to sell you on things.
00:19:03.800 They come up with a scheme
00:19:04.980 that makes it so convoluted
00:19:06.860 and complicated
00:19:07.440 where it sounds good,
00:19:08.500 but you know you're 0.96
00:19:09.400 getting screwed at the end. 0.96
00:19:10.480 And that's the thing here. 0.97
00:19:11.500 I mean,
00:19:11.620 Canadians need to know 0.99
00:19:12.740 they're getting screwed 1.00
00:19:13.440 because otherwise 0.98
00:19:14.000 there would be no point.
00:19:15.420 And again,
00:19:15.800 the government's even
00:19:16.720 like abandoned this
00:19:17.640 because originally
00:19:18.140 it was a price on carbon.
00:19:19.940 Pollution shouldn't be free,
00:19:21.340 which in and of itself
00:19:22.380 is based on a premise
00:19:23.420 that's incredibly flawed.
00:19:25.160 But at the end of it,
00:19:26.260 I'm waiting to see
00:19:27.540 the eight in 10 Canadians
00:19:29.280 that are supposedly better off.
00:19:31.660 This is it.
00:19:32.660 So again,
00:19:33.200 you've nailed it.
00:19:33.980 So let's move on now
00:19:35.120 to the magically
00:19:36.040 eight in 10 Canadians
00:19:37.140 are better off.
00:19:37.840 Okay.
00:19:38.160 So just on the surface of it.
00:19:39.980 So I don't know,
00:19:41.260 you know,
00:19:41.480 lots of people
00:19:42.160 had lots of different
00:19:42.820 types of jobs,
00:19:43.420 but do you remember
00:19:44.020 that time where
00:19:44.700 you're in a coffee shop
00:19:45.940 and you're this long
00:19:47.300 lost buddy from school
00:19:48.520 sits you down
00:19:49.620 and starts explaining
00:19:50.480 this new investment scheme
00:19:51.720 he's got going.
00:19:52.720 It's a pyramid scheme.
00:19:54.640 Okay.
00:19:55.040 You give him money.
00:19:56.260 He gives the other person money
00:19:57.380 and then you magically
00:19:58.240 at some point
00:19:58.960 get your money back.
00:20:00.060 Meanwhile,
00:20:00.480 he's taken off
00:20:01.260 to Mexico somewhere.
00:20:03.080 This is what this is.
00:20:04.760 Okay.
00:20:05.220 But he just happens
00:20:06.360 to be in a suit and tie
00:20:07.600 and be standing
00:20:08.500 in front of a TV camera.
00:20:09.980 So it all looks official.
00:20:11.480 So don't even take it
00:20:12.960 from the Canadian
00:20:13.480 Taxpayers Federation.
00:20:14.660 Okay.
00:20:14.960 Like we've been fighting
00:20:15.900 this forever.
00:20:16.680 We literally have
00:20:17.360 the bumper sticker
00:20:18.020 and the t-shirt.
00:20:19.060 We know this.
00:20:20.300 Fine.
00:20:21.180 Take it from
00:20:21.680 the parliamentary
00:20:22.500 budget officer.
00:20:23.760 Okay.
00:20:24.000 It's an independent
00:20:25.000 arm's length
00:20:25.800 government watchdog
00:20:26.880 that keeps an eye
00:20:27.600 on their spending.
00:20:28.740 Okay.
00:20:29.380 Just the spending.
00:20:30.980 This year,
00:20:32.140 the average Alberta family
00:20:34.020 will be out $900
00:20:36.700 net.
00:20:38.820 That is with the rebates
00:20:40.400 factored in.
00:20:41.340 Okay.
00:20:41.480 Like they've done
00:20:42.560 the math on their
00:20:43.820 big calculator.
00:20:44.940 Okay.
00:20:45.400 And the way they do
00:20:46.540 that is of course
00:20:47.780 the carbon tax
00:20:49.060 isn't just you
00:20:50.220 filling up your
00:20:51.080 little Honda Civic.
00:20:52.260 Okay.
00:20:53.000 And spending around
00:20:54.040 eight to ten dollars
00:20:55.280 extra every time you
00:20:56.280 fill up in the carbon
00:20:57.020 tax.
00:20:57.440 It's not just that.
00:20:59.200 It's your home
00:21:00.080 heating.
00:21:00.860 Okay.
00:21:01.340 It is the food
00:21:02.560 that the trucker
00:21:03.460 had to haul
00:21:04.220 to your grocery
00:21:05.000 store.
00:21:05.680 It's the food
00:21:06.560 that the farmer
00:21:07.200 had to grow
00:21:07.940 keeping his poultry
00:21:08.900 barns warm
00:21:09.660 and his grain dry.
00:21:11.060 All of this
00:21:12.060 level of taxation
00:21:13.380 cascades to the economy
00:21:14.960 and you,
00:21:16.080 dear taxpayer,
00:21:17.040 are the ones
00:21:17.620 who pay it.
00:21:18.400 The parliamentary
00:21:19.120 budget officer,
00:21:20.280 to their credit,
00:21:21.580 did all of that math.
00:21:23.480 They said,
00:21:24.200 no, no, no.
00:21:24.640 It's not just your
00:21:25.380 little rebate
00:21:25.940 that you might be
00:21:26.560 getting from your
00:21:27.200 local gas station
00:21:28.120 once you're finished
00:21:28.720 filling up.
00:21:29.560 No,
00:21:30.060 it's the cascade
00:21:31.040 of that carbon tax
00:21:32.740 effect.
00:21:33.060 And that is why
00:21:34.120 Alberta families
00:21:35.160 are out net
00:21:36.480 $900 this year.
00:21:38.660 And further,
00:21:39.600 it just,
00:21:40.040 to your point,
00:21:40.520 I'm so glad
00:21:41.080 you described
00:21:41.800 what gaslighting
00:21:42.800 means.
00:21:43.520 Because a lot
00:21:44.420 of times I think
00:21:45.080 people just use
00:21:45.820 that term
00:21:46.300 and they don't
00:21:46.740 realize how
00:21:47.520 awful and
00:21:49.320 insidious
00:21:49.980 gaslighting is.
00:21:51.540 Right?
00:21:51.940 It's,
00:21:52.840 to put it in
00:21:53.540 a more simplistic
00:21:54.320 term,
00:21:54.820 it's like you're
00:21:55.260 in the schoolyard
00:21:56.240 and the bully
00:21:56.880 is like grabbing
00:21:57.820 your own hand 0.67
00:21:58.520 and hitting you 0.99
00:21:59.120 with it.
00:21:59.820 And he's saying,
00:22:00.360 stop hitting
00:22:00.740 yourself.
00:22:01.240 Stop hitting
00:22:01.620 yourself.
00:22:02.740 I have an
00:22:03.120 older brother,
00:22:03.680 I'm familiar.
00:22:04.520 Yeah,
00:22:04.740 me too.
00:22:05.120 I got three
00:22:05.620 of them,
00:22:05.980 right?
00:22:06.300 And so,
00:22:06.860 you know,
00:22:07.160 name 10
00:22:07.600 chocolate bars.
00:22:08.420 I still shudder,
00:22:09.360 right?
00:22:09.880 So,
00:22:10.540 this is what
00:22:11.220 Prime Minister
00:22:11.800 is doing here,
00:22:12.660 but on a
00:22:13.200 macro scale
00:22:14.140 and he's
00:22:15.180 taking money
00:22:15.760 from people
00:22:16.300 and it's
00:22:16.700 just fundamentally
00:22:17.420 unfair,
00:22:18.040 which is why
00:22:18.620 we're now
00:22:19.440 seeing,
00:22:19.880 I think it's
00:22:20.300 seven in
00:22:20.860 10 premiers
00:22:21.520 saying no
00:22:22.820 more carbon
00:22:23.340 tax.
00:22:23.980 I think the
00:22:25.160 tide has turned
00:22:25.740 on this.
00:22:26.880 Yeah,
00:22:27.220 and then,
00:22:27.780 you know,
00:22:28.540 Wab Canu,
00:22:29.500 the NDP
00:22:29.940 Premier in
00:22:30.480 Manitoba,
00:22:30.980 being very coy
00:22:31.800 on this,
00:22:32.260 but this is
00:22:32.840 actually a good
00:22:33.380 segue into
00:22:34.020 some news
00:22:34.580 in my own
00:22:35.220 province,
00:22:35.860 Ontario.
00:22:37.180 No,
00:22:37.680 no,
00:22:37.780 no,
00:22:37.940 don't boo.
00:22:39.560 So,
00:22:40.100 Bonnie Crombie,
00:22:40.900 who's the
00:22:41.440 new minister,
00:22:42.900 the new leader
00:22:43.580 of the Ontario
00:22:44.400 Liberal Party.
00:22:45.240 Now,
00:22:45.380 this is the
00:22:45.800 party of
00:22:46.240 Kathleen Wynne
00:22:46.880 and Dalton
00:22:47.240 McGinty.
00:22:47.740 This is like
00:22:48.180 one of the
00:22:48.480 most rabid,
00:22:49.780 radical,
00:22:50.540 environmental
00:22:51.100 parties in
00:22:52.900 the country
00:22:53.960 when they were
00:22:55.000 there.
00:22:55.360 This is the
00:22:55.920 country or the
00:22:56.640 province that
00:22:57.140 brought in
00:22:57.620 cap and trade
00:22:58.380 Ontario,
00:22:59.260 that like
00:22:59.520 terrible,
00:23:00.200 terrible record
00:23:01.220 on this,
00:23:01.740 that brought
00:23:02.020 in the wind
00:23:02.560 turbines that
00:23:03.300 there's no
00:23:04.640 business case
00:23:05.200 for.
00:23:05.740 So,
00:23:05.980 Bonnie Crombie,
00:23:06.680 the leader of
00:23:07.080 the Ontario
00:23:07.540 Liberal Party,
00:23:08.360 has said that
00:23:09.320 if she wins
00:23:10.260 the election
00:23:10.900 and she defeats
00:23:12.000 Doug Ford's
00:23:12.720 progressive
00:23:13.220 Conservatives
00:23:13.920 in 2026,
00:23:15.420 there will be
00:23:15.920 no provincial
00:23:16.820 carbon tax
00:23:17.640 for consumers.
00:23:19.200 Now,
00:23:19.800 this is a
00:23:20.660 big,
00:23:21.240 big development.
00:23:22.140 And I mean,
00:23:22.600 the Overton
00:23:23.160 window,
00:23:24.040 what this tells me
00:23:24.800 is that the
00:23:25.120 Overton window
00:23:25.780 and the
00:23:26.020 carbon tax
00:23:26.620 has shifted
00:23:27.180 where you
00:23:28.400 can't really
00:23:29.060 be elected
00:23:29.800 without opposing
00:23:30.940 it.
00:23:31.660 And provincial
00:23:32.300 governments are
00:23:32.940 getting this,
00:23:33.480 provincial parties
00:23:34.160 are,
00:23:34.500 you have NDP
00:23:35.100 leadership candidates
00:23:36.100 in Alberta
00:23:36.620 saying no to
00:23:37.620 the carbon tax,
00:23:38.380 you've got the
00:23:38.760 Ontario Liberals,
00:23:39.660 the Newfoundland
00:23:40.100 Liberals,
00:23:40.740 everyone but
00:23:41.420 Justin Trudeau.
00:23:42.780 I know,
00:23:43.580 he's the last
00:23:44.340 one to get it,
00:23:45.280 right?
00:23:45.800 I had a sense
00:23:46.800 to my friend,
00:23:47.460 I said,
00:23:47.940 bring an umbrella
00:23:48.560 because pigs
00:23:49.260 are flying in
00:23:50.400 Ontario today.
00:23:51.920 Like,
00:23:52.620 I want to go
00:23:53.220 get,
00:23:53.520 you know,
00:23:53.680 those dollar store
00:23:54.400 fairy wings you
00:23:55.160 can get or
00:23:55.540 angel wings,
00:23:56.220 I want to go
00:23:56.600 stick them on
00:23:57.260 Porky the
00:23:57.780 Waste Hater,
00:23:58.440 our big, 0.60
00:23:58.920 our pig mascot
00:24:00.320 in Ottawa
00:24:00.800 and make,
00:24:01.280 make Franco
00:24:02.240 do cartwheels
00:24:02.840 on Parliament
00:24:03.280 Hill with it.
00:24:04.120 So,
00:24:04.760 to your point,
00:24:05.760 and again,
00:24:06.100 I lived in
00:24:06.580 Ontario at the
00:24:07.300 time when
00:24:08.160 the Liberals
00:24:08.720 were in charge
00:24:09.540 and they
00:24:11.000 destroyed the
00:24:12.240 affordability
00:24:12.880 for your
00:24:13.620 power bill.
00:24:14.760 So,
00:24:15.260 I remember
00:24:15.680 distinctly
00:24:16.260 myself,
00:24:16.980 we had a
00:24:17.740 very small
00:24:18.460 bungalow
00:24:18.920 that we were
00:24:19.300 renting,
00:24:20.320 we were using
00:24:20.780 natural gas
00:24:21.500 for heat,
00:24:22.140 I was obsessively
00:24:23.000 doing laundry
00:24:23.640 like after
00:24:24.220 midnight
00:24:24.640 using only
00:24:25.320 LED bulbs
00:24:26.920 and our
00:24:27.700 power bill
00:24:28.240 was still
00:24:28.920 more than
00:24:29.360 $400 a
00:24:30.540 month.
00:24:31.400 And I was
00:24:32.160 getting off
00:24:32.580 easy compared
00:24:33.380 to some
00:24:33.800 like Kathy
00:24:34.300 Ketula
00:24:34.720 and some
00:24:35.180 of those
00:24:35.440 folks who
00:24:35.860 were living
00:24:36.180 in more
00:24:36.520 rural areas
00:24:37.260 that were
00:24:37.880 getting power
00:24:38.840 bills that
00:24:39.380 were more
00:24:39.700 than $1,000.
00:24:40.900 So,
00:24:41.720 the reason why
00:24:42.280 I'm telling you
00:24:42.780 this little
00:24:43.160 story,
00:24:43.640 because it
00:24:43.860 doesn't sound
00:24:44.260 like carbon
00:24:44.780 taxi stuff,
00:24:45.760 the same
00:24:47.100 geniuses
00:24:47.960 who invented
00:24:49.000 the Clean
00:24:49.880 Energy Act
00:24:50.780 in Ontario
00:24:51.560 and ruined
00:24:52.300 people's
00:24:52.720 affordability,
00:24:53.660 they scurried
00:24:54.640 up after
00:24:55.260 they got
00:24:55.700 booted out
00:24:56.140 of office,
00:24:56.680 they scurried
00:24:57.280 from Queen's
00:24:57.860 Park,
00:24:58.300 guess where?
00:24:59.200 They scurried
00:24:59.700 up to
00:25:00.040 Ottawa.
00:25:00.880 They're the
00:25:01.420 ones that
00:25:02.020 created the
00:25:03.280 legislation for
00:25:04.380 this current
00:25:05.060 federal carbon
00:25:05.700 tax, my
00:25:06.220 friend.
00:25:07.080 And so that
00:25:07.680 is why
00:25:08.240 Andrew and
00:25:09.000 I are
00:25:09.260 highlighting
00:25:09.680 this.
00:25:10.160 Guys, we
00:25:10.520 have to keep
00:25:10.960 an eye on
00:25:11.380 these people,
00:25:12.160 but politically
00:25:13.060 speaking,
00:25:14.180 bringing it
00:25:14.620 around full
00:25:15.080 circle, to
00:25:16.000 your point,
00:25:16.900 to have that
00:25:17.620 same party
00:25:18.680 leader now,
00:25:19.820 so different
00:25:20.200 lady, same 0.94
00:25:21.120 party though,
00:25:21.940 and she's
00:25:22.300 leader, saying
00:25:23.240 no provincial
00:25:24.120 carbon tax,
00:25:25.700 my how
00:25:26.280 things have
00:25:26.800 changed.
00:25:27.540 So I don't
00:25:28.680 know what's
00:25:28.940 going to
00:25:29.120 happen.
00:25:29.620 Is the
00:25:30.140 Prime Minister
00:25:30.580 going to
00:25:31.140 see the
00:25:31.980 lesson here
00:25:32.600 and cave
00:25:33.600 to politics?
00:25:34.480 By the way,
00:25:35.020 sorry dude,
00:25:35.740 but you're
00:25:36.360 a politician.
00:25:37.820 I don't know
00:25:38.840 if you knew
00:25:39.140 this, but
00:25:39.500 you're in
00:25:39.900 the arena.
00:25:40.800 It is your
00:25:41.220 job to
00:25:42.040 listen to
00:25:42.660 people and
00:25:43.500 respond to them.
00:25:43.860 It's like the
00:25:45.180 number one
00:25:45.600 thing you do
00:25:46.200 when you run
00:25:46.640 for office.
00:25:47.420 You come up
00:25:48.200 with an
00:25:48.460 excuse to
00:25:48.920 say I'm
00:25:49.320 not a
00:25:49.660 politician,
00:25:50.360 but it's
00:25:50.600 like, well,
00:25:51.160 you, because
00:25:51.840 I tried that
00:25:52.440 when I ran
00:25:52.900 for office in
00:25:53.460 2018.
00:25:54.160 I'm not a
00:25:54.700 politician, but
00:25:55.080 I was a
00:25:55.980 politician at
00:25:56.580 that point.
00:25:57.020 It doesn't
00:25:57.140 mean I was
00:25:57.540 like every
00:25:58.280 other politician,
00:25:59.180 but once
00:25:59.640 you're elected,
00:26:00.320 the pretense
00:26:00.920 is completely
00:26:01.480 gone.
00:26:02.140 Like, dude,
00:26:02.700 your name
00:26:03.060 is on a
00:26:03.420 lawn sign.
00:26:04.540 I'm literally
00:26:05.280 watching you
00:26:05.960 kissing babies
00:26:06.760 and shaking
00:26:07.200 hands.
00:26:08.060 You're a
00:26:08.620 politician.
00:26:09.540 So this
00:26:10.120 is it.
00:26:10.800 We can't
00:26:11.480 pop the
00:26:11.980 champagne on
00:26:12.540 this yet.
00:26:13.080 There's still
00:26:13.480 a long way
00:26:14.300 to go, but
00:26:15.540 it's really
00:26:16.000 good to see
00:26:16.540 the narrative
00:26:17.140 changing, as
00:26:17.980 the kids say
00:26:18.540 in school,
00:26:19.180 on the
00:26:19.640 carbon tax
00:26:20.280 because a
00:26:20.780 few years
00:26:21.180 ago, you
00:26:21.640 might remember
00:26:22.140 the former
00:26:23.140 leader of
00:26:23.620 the Conservative
00:26:24.140 Party even
00:26:24.940 was totally
00:26:26.000 in favor of
00:26:26.780 the carbon
00:26:27.160 tax.
00:26:27.660 He was just
00:26:28.020 calling it
00:26:28.460 something
00:26:28.680 different and
00:26:29.180 we were
00:26:29.380 going to get
00:26:29.720 a solar
00:26:30.040 blender.
00:26:31.440 Yeah, exactly.
00:26:32.620 Just like
00:26:32.920 Canadian
00:26:33.260 Tire, but
00:26:33.920 you get an
00:26:34.400 e-bike.
00:26:36.060 So let me
00:26:37.020 just ask
00:26:37.460 briefly about
00:26:38.300 this.
00:26:38.640 So Doug
00:26:39.140 Ford has
00:26:40.440 said that
00:26:41.160 he does
00:26:42.180 not have
00:26:42.920 the latitude
00:26:44.180 that, say,
00:26:44.880 Scott Moe
00:26:45.500 does.
00:26:45.680 So Scott
00:26:46.120 Moe, they've
00:26:46.600 just stopped
00:26:47.540 remitting the
00:26:48.120 carbon tax, but
00:26:49.100 they also have
00:26:49.900 a pure Crown
00:26:50.720 Corporation energy
00:26:51.700 provider, which
00:26:52.880 Ontario does
00:26:53.640 not.
00:26:54.380 And so that
00:26:55.460 argument makes
00:26:56.220 sense.
00:26:56.640 But do we
00:26:57.400 know the
00:26:57.720 mechanism that
00:26:58.420 Bonnie Crombie
00:26:59.160 is proposing
00:26:59.940 here so that
00:27:01.100 she can get
00:27:01.860 rid of this
00:27:02.340 consumer carbon
00:27:03.060 tax?
00:27:04.120 I think, now
00:27:05.280 I don't want to
00:27:05.680 speak for her, but
00:27:06.420 my understanding
00:27:07.220 was that if
00:27:08.160 there were no
00:27:08.920 federal tax, she
00:27:10.320 would not bring
00:27:11.200 one home to
00:27:11.900 roost in
00:27:12.300 Ontario.
00:27:13.200 Okay, so she's
00:27:14.040 not pledging to
00:27:14.820 do the Scott
00:27:15.700 Moe thing of 0.99
00:27:16.440 somehow exempting
00:27:18.940 from the
00:27:19.280 federal.
00:27:19.560 Hey, if she 0.87
00:27:20.360 could, all the
00:27:21.020 power to her.
00:27:22.040 I might even
00:27:23.140 vote for her if 1.00
00:27:23.740 she can do
00:27:24.140 that.
00:27:24.640 Hey, you want
00:27:25.420 to throw shoes
00:27:26.160 at our bad
00:27:26.720 boyfriend, girl?
00:27:27.660 I will help
00:27:28.260 you.
00:27:28.480 I will send
00:27:28.980 you shoes to
00:27:29.600 throw at this 0.77
00:27:30.200 man.
00:27:30.920 So the same
00:27:31.420 way that Daniel
00:27:32.000 Smith is doing
00:27:32.700 here, the
00:27:33.060 premier of
00:27:33.460 Alberta, it
00:27:34.240 was funny.
00:27:34.740 She was like,
00:27:35.220 how on earth
00:27:35.940 do I do what
00:27:36.720 Moe did? 0.91
00:27:37.620 Do I create
00:27:38.260 this little shell
00:27:39.660 of a Crown
00:27:40.440 Corporation?
00:27:41.060 We don't
00:27:41.580 usually like
00:27:42.040 Crown
00:27:42.220 Corporation, but
00:27:42.980 I understand
00:27:43.540 the usefulness
00:27:44.260 in this
00:27:44.560 particular fight.
00:27:45.640 So she's
00:27:46.040 trying to figure
00:27:46.480 out how to
00:27:46.840 do that too
00:27:47.460 because she's
00:27:48.340 in this kind
00:27:48.800 of friendly
00:27:49.160 competition with
00:27:50.140 premier Scott
00:27:51.020 Moe next 1.00
00:27:51.480 door on how
00:27:52.500 much each of
00:27:53.160 them can stand
00:27:53.860 up to
00:27:54.600 prime minister
00:27:55.180 Trudeau.
00:27:55.980 A little
00:27:56.720 note though,
00:27:57.880 and again, I'm
00:27:58.480 speaking directly
00:27:59.180 to the people
00:28:00.060 who love your
00:28:00.640 show, who are
00:28:01.720 probably fans of
00:28:02.900 the premier, like
00:28:03.860 I personally have
00:28:04.800 an awful lot of
00:28:05.360 time for the
00:28:05.900 lady.
00:28:08.600 Jurisdictionally
00:28:09.080 though, she's 0.99
00:28:10.120 doing something
00:28:10.620 wrong.
00:28:11.720 She's going to
00:28:12.220 be increasing
00:28:12.800 the provincial
00:28:13.300 fuel tax here
00:28:14.780 on the same
00:28:15.380 day that
00:28:15.980 prime minister
00:28:16.440 Justin Trudeau
00:28:17.180 is jacking up
00:28:17.840 the federal
00:28:18.200 carbon tax.
00:28:19.820 And like, it's
00:28:20.420 just math.
00:28:21.380 This is nothing
00:28:21.860 personal.
00:28:22.620 That's not good.
00:28:24.000 She's increasing
00:28:24.680 it by four cents
00:28:25.700 a liter.
00:28:26.440 It's on schedule
00:28:27.280 on April 1st.
00:28:28.500 The provincial
00:28:28.920 fuel tax is
00:28:29.680 going up four
00:28:30.340 cents a liter.
00:28:31.720 And federally
00:28:32.700 speaking, the
00:28:34.180 carbon tax is
00:28:34.920 going up three
00:28:35.780 cents a liter.
00:28:37.080 So not a good
00:28:38.180 look.
00:28:38.700 Like, so the
00:28:39.200 Alberta premier
00:28:40.020 has really
00:28:40.540 got to pay
00:28:40.940 attention to
00:28:41.900 the home
00:28:42.220 roost here
00:28:42.740 and not jack
00:28:43.380 up her fuel
00:28:43.900 tax, especially
00:28:44.580 on the same
00:28:45.100 day that
00:28:46.040 Prime Minister
00:28:46.820 Trudeau is
00:28:47.280 jacking up
00:28:47.700 his carbon
00:28:48.040 tax.
00:28:48.920 Yeah, very
00:28:49.400 well said.
00:28:50.040 And judging
00:28:50.600 by your
00:28:50.960 t-shirt, your
00:28:51.600 kind offer to
00:28:52.580 the country
00:28:52.980 still stands
00:28:53.800 that for the
00:28:54.860 low price of
00:28:55.720 one dollar a
00:28:56.460 day, you
00:28:56.960 or one dollar
00:28:57.500 a year, you
00:28:58.720 will be Her
00:28:59.620 Excellency
00:29:00.320 Governor General
00:29:01.120 Chris Sims,
00:29:01.740 which you know
00:29:02.040 what, we could
00:29:02.340 do a lot
00:29:02.740 worse.
00:29:03.880 Well, pretty
00:29:04.220 much anyone
00:29:04.580 else would be
00:29:05.080 worse.
00:29:05.480 So, all
00:29:06.000 right, Chris,
00:29:06.460 always good to
00:29:06.920 talk to you.
00:29:07.260 Thanks so much
00:29:10.020 Chris Sims, we
00:29:11.380 will see you
00:29:12.440 back next
00:29:13.340 Monday.
00:29:14.100 Great to have
00:29:14.580 your insight on
00:29:15.220 this.
00:29:15.460 And yeah, I
00:29:16.160 gotta say, I
00:29:16.620 did not think
00:29:17.380 Bonnie Crombie
00:29:18.160 had an inner,
00:29:18.780 but good on
00:29:19.260 her as well.
00:29:19.820 And I would
00:29:20.120 say to Doug
00:29:20.740 Ford, your
00:29:21.200 move, and
00:29:21.700 it'll be
00:29:21.960 interesting.
00:29:22.880 If Pierre
00:29:23.580 Pollyev lauds
00:29:24.880 Bonnie Crombie
00:29:25.800 for this in
00:29:26.260 any way, I
00:29:26.740 haven't checked
00:29:27.060 his Twitter
00:29:27.420 feed this
00:29:27.800 morning, that'll
00:29:28.660 be interesting
00:29:29.160 because there's
00:29:29.680 a fair bit of
00:29:30.220 tension between
00:29:31.000 the federal
00:29:31.620 Conservatives and
00:29:32.760 the Ontario
00:29:33.460 Progressive
00:29:34.020 Conservatives,
00:29:34.540 they really
00:29:34.840 don't get
00:29:35.180 along.
00:29:35.940 So I can
00:29:36.380 see, I
00:29:37.200 don't know, I
00:29:37.600 don't want to
00:29:37.980 get too much
00:29:38.460 into the
00:29:38.760 palace intrigue
00:29:39.540 of this, but
00:29:39.940 I can see
00:29:40.520 Pollyev as 0.92
00:29:41.580 actually really
00:29:43.140 trying to stick
00:29:43.740 it to Ford by
00:29:44.840 saying something
00:29:46.320 nice about what
00:29:46.940 Bonnie Crombie is
00:29:47.560 doing.
00:29:47.880 So I'll keep
00:29:48.500 an eye out for
00:29:49.060 it.
00:29:49.180 Anyway, I have
00:29:49.940 no inside
00:29:50.380 knowledge on
00:29:50.960 that part.
00:29:51.700 I just, knowing
00:29:52.640 the other stuff,
00:29:53.900 the relational
00:29:54.600 stuff I was
00:29:55.160 talking about, I
00:29:56.220 wouldn't be
00:29:56.560 surprised.
00:29:57.280 Now, that is
00:29:58.080 going to do it
00:29:58.560 for us for
00:29:58.940 today.
00:29:59.300 I will say
00:29:59.780 though, because
00:30:00.980 I mentioned
00:30:01.340 Handmaid's Tale
00:30:02.080 last week, I
00:30:03.040 started watching
00:30:03.880 the show The
00:30:05.040 Handmaid's Tale,
00:30:06.000 which is based on
00:30:06.740 the Margaret Atwood
00:30:07.320 book, and I
00:30:07.800 mentioned it on
00:30:08.540 the show, and
00:30:08.960 then Sean, my
00:30:09.780 producer who's
00:30:10.400 off today, said
00:30:10.980 he likes The
00:30:11.440 Handmaid's Tale.
00:30:12.520 It is having a
00:30:14.060 weird effect on
00:30:15.040 me, because two
00:30:17.340 nights ago, I had
00:30:19.240 a weird dream
00:30:19.800 about Margaret
00:30:20.340 Atwood.
00:30:20.660 No, not that
00:30:21.200 kind of dream.
00:30:21.860 It was not that
00:30:22.500 kind of dream
00:30:22.920 about Margaret
00:30:23.420 Atwood.
00:30:24.120 But I dreamed
00:30:25.000 that I was
00:30:25.760 walking down a
00:30:26.880 Toronto street, and
00:30:27.920 I saw Margaret
00:30:28.500 Atwood, and I
00:30:29.020 wanted a selfie
00:30:29.580 with her, and
00:30:30.740 she ignored me,
00:30:31.880 so then I went
00:30:32.560 into some hipster
00:30:33.680 cafe and sat
00:30:34.500 down and had a
00:30:35.040 coffee, and then
00:30:36.100 she followed me
00:30:37.060 in and joined
00:30:37.960 me, and we
00:30:39.160 sat down and
00:30:40.040 spoke for 20
00:30:40.700 minutes about
00:30:41.320 free speech, and
00:30:42.220 we agreed.
00:30:43.180 So I don't know
00:30:44.540 what to take from
00:30:45.100 that.
00:30:45.340 Margaret Atwood
00:30:45.820 did come out and
00:30:46.600 criticize Bill C-63
00:30:48.260 as Orwellian, so
00:30:49.720 perhaps that was
00:30:51.100 buried in my
00:30:51.820 subconscious a
00:30:52.500 little bit, as
00:30:53.020 well as The
00:30:53.440 Handmaid's Tale,
00:30:54.220 but I never
00:30:54.920 thought I'd be
00:30:55.360 dreaming about
00:30:55.940 Margaret Atwood.
00:30:56.740 So anyway,
00:30:57.780 without further
00:30:58.580 ado, I will end
00:30:59.400 things there, but
00:31:00.360 we'll be back
00:31:00.840 tomorrow afternoon
00:31:01.600 with more of
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00:31:04.400 show here on
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00:31:06.600 Andrew Lawton
00:31:07.080 Show.
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