Juno News - February 06, 2025


Trudeau walks back Meta ban, Sam Cooper on China & fentanyl, Mark Carney’s opposes the “war on woke”


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us.
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00:00:52.080 leaving us a five-star review. And go ahead and subscribe to True North and to my channel
00:00:57.280 so that you never miss an update. So we have a lot to get to. We've got a great show lined up
00:01:02.440 for you today. We're going to be joined a little bit later on by Sam Cooper, who I think is the
00:01:06.480 best investigative journalist in the country. He is uncovering incredibly crazy things about our
00:01:11.780 country, about China, and just how much of a foothold China has in Canada. So we're going to
00:01:16.740 be talking with him about fentanyl and about foreign interference in our elections. Later
00:01:21.400 in the show, I'm going to be joined by a self-proclaimed non-woke leftist. We're going to
00:01:25.960 talk about Mark Carney. We're going to talk about Jagmeet Singh, and we're going to get to
00:01:29.740 everything else. But first, I think the most important thing that I want to talk to you
00:01:34.260 about today, let's talk about Justin Trudeau and his latest attempt to manipulate Canadians
00:01:39.920 and control the media. So on Wednesday, we learned that the Trudeau government had ended its own
00:01:46.020 self-imposed ban on advertising on meta platforms. So starting soon, you'll once again be able to see
00:01:53.140 Government of Canada ads on Facebook and Instagram. The Privy Council office, which is filled with
00:01:59.560 Justin Trudeau's own personal bureaucrats, recently spent $100,000 promoting Justin Trudeau's GST
00:02:07.460 tax holiday shtick, which was designed to bribe Canadians with our own money in order to boost
00:02:14.560 Justin Trudeau's public image. But wait a minute, back in July of 2023, Justin Trudeau himself
00:02:21.360 pledged not to give any money to Meta that no government advertising would be spent on Meta
00:02:28.280 because Meta had decided to pull Canadian news from its platforms. So why would Meta pull Canadian
00:02:35.460 news from its platforms? Well, because one component of Justin Trudeau's censorious
00:02:40.180 online news act was an attempt to shake down the tech giant to force them to give a bailout
00:02:47.240 to failing Canadian news companies. At the time, Meta founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg said no to
00:02:54.240 that request. And in turn, Justin Trudeau pulled Canada's measly government ad spend. Well, now
00:03:01.120 that Trudeau needs to use Zuckerberg's platforms to promote his own vote buying scheme for the
00:03:06.900 Liberal Party, Justin Trudeau is walking that back. But Meta's news ban still applies, making it so
00:03:14.380 that Canadians cannot view or share news stories on its platforms. So thanks to Justin Trudeau's
00:03:21.400 meddling in the market of Canadian news, independent organizations like True North have
00:03:27.260 lost a huge part of our audience, including the millions of Canadians who used to interact
00:03:31.940 with our stories on Facebook and Instagram. So did you get that? Trudeau is saying it's okay for him
00:03:38.560 and his government to be back on Facebook and Instagram, but it's not okay for journalists
00:03:43.580 and organizations like True North. Very fitting, very rich. Now you probably saw last month,
00:03:49.740 Mark Zuckerberg announced that there were welcomed changes to Meta's policies, which
00:03:54.840 recognize the public shift that we've had towards free speech. Zuckerberg said that he would do away
00:04:00.780 with politically biased third-party fact-checkers and move towards X, the X model of community
00:04:07.980 notes and having more say from the people, more free speech. He also said that Meta was returning
00:04:14.260 to its roots of free expression and allowing more sharing of news and political opinions
00:04:20.240 in algorithms and on the platform. But yet again, thanks to Justin Trudeau and the Liberals,
00:04:26.120 Canadians will still be banned from seeing news. Now the cherry on top of all of this is that
00:04:32.340 Trudeau spent the last week telling Canadians to buy Canada. He said to boycott American goods
00:04:38.900 and he went so far as even to say that we should cancel upcoming trips and vacations
00:04:43.620 to the United States and meanwhile we learned that he is now using our tax dollar to pay for ads to
00:04:51.200 one of the largest American corporations in the world,
00:04:55.000 all just to promote his electioneering tax gimmicks.
00:04:59.280 What a joke, what an absolute joke,
00:05:02.240 because it's Justin Trudeau, he's a hypocrite,
00:05:04.720 and we all knew that.
00:05:06.680 And I want to go a little bit deeper
00:05:09.300 into this idea of this story
00:05:12.580 that the media have been just so too happy to promote
00:05:16.980 this idea that Canadians
00:05:19.520 shouldn't be going to the United States,
00:05:21.200 We shouldn't travel. An ex-user, Riot and Gerritsen, pointed this out and he showed how basically the entire legacy media were working hand in glove to promote this narrative that Canadians shouldn't travel to the United States.
00:05:37.320 Here you can just see news story after news story after news story with the headline encouraging Canadians to cancel the trips, not go to the United States, not give any money.
00:05:48.380 I think that this is part of a concerted effort by the legacy media to basically cover for Justin
00:05:53.960 Trudeau. Justin Trudeau has seen, under Justin Trudeau's rule, we have seen patriotism and love
00:05:59.680 of country in Canada absolutely plummet. And I think for good reason, right? You love your country
00:06:05.060 on its good days and on its bad days, but at a certain point when your country doesn't recognize
00:06:10.600 the basic freedoms of Canadians like we experienced during COVID, you see your prime minister able to
00:06:15.600 just make an absolute mockery of the political system, manipulate it, use every trick in the
00:06:21.120 book, even what we're living through right now. He prorogued Parliament so that there wouldn't be
00:06:25.880 an election, so that he could remain in power, so that his Liberal Party could rebuild, so that they
00:06:30.560 can install Mark Carney as the Prime Minister. And all of this is happening. Canadians don't have
00:06:35.540 any kind of say. So I think there's pretty good reason why there's not a lot of love for Canada.
00:06:40.320 and the media is just working in overtime to try to boost this idea of Canadian patriotism.
00:06:46.260 So a recent poll showed, this is from Agnes Reid, True North is covering it, saying Canadian
00:06:51.920 pride rebounds following Trump's tariff threat and the brief reprieve. So a survey conducted by the
00:06:58.740 Agnes Reid Institute found the percentage of Canadians who said that they were very proud
00:07:03.340 to be Canadian, has risen from 34% in December up to 44% now. So just in the past 35, 40 days,
00:07:12.760 we've seen a 10% jump in patriotism for Canadians. The portion of those who express a deep emotional
00:07:19.360 attachment to Canada has also climbed by 10%. So how is it that, you know, a trade dispute with
00:07:28.220 our closest friend and ally has evoked this kind of patriotism. Well, it's partially because the
00:07:33.540 media is working very, very hard to promote this narrative, this idea that we have to turn on our
00:07:38.640 neighbor, turn on our friend, oppose the Americans, don't buy their stuff, don't visit their country.
00:07:44.420 It's all, of course, folks, a distraction to distract you from the very real fact that it is
00:07:49.720 Justin Trudeau and the liberals who have imposed this harm onto Canadians. And if you look at the
00:07:56.380 data going back. So we've got Canadian patriotism stats going back. In 1985, 78% of Canadians said
00:08:03.020 that they were very proud to be Canadian. By 2003, it had dropped down to 68%, but still pretty high,
00:08:08.980 right? More than two out of three Canadians said that they were very proud to be Canadian. By the
00:08:14.440 time Justin Trudeau took office, it was down to 52% in 2016. And after just eight years in office,
00:08:22.700 National Pride hit a record low in 2024 of just 34% of people saying that they are proud to be
00:08:31.100 Canadian. Isn't that sad? I mean, the reality, of course, is that it is because of the media
00:08:36.360 narrative, right? They're the ones who have been telling us that our country was founded on
00:08:40.120 genocide. They're the ones that said that early Canadians set up schools to impose genocide and
00:08:46.160 murder children. They're the ones that insisted on tearing down our statues, erasing our history,
00:08:51.980 removing Sir John A. Macdonald's name from streets and schools and everything else.
00:08:58.740 So we've had a decade-long campaign to make Canada this post-national state
00:09:03.500 that Justin Trudeau so thoughtfully imagined.
00:09:07.540 And then here we are with national pride at a record low.
00:09:11.640 The media are trying to cover for Justin Trudeau now,
00:09:13.940 pushing this idea by Canadian that if you're on the political left,
00:09:17.100 it's OK to wave the flag again.
00:09:18.600 It's OK to be Canadian and to love Canadian.
00:09:21.340 And it's all just to cover up for the fact that Justin Trudeau really has destroyed the country.
00:09:26.740 Now, one of the areas I think that stands out the most when it comes to ways that Justin Trudeau has destroyed the country,
00:09:32.960 and I know there's so many, you can talk about economics, you can talk about spending and borrowing, government growth,
00:09:37.300 you can talk about immigration.
00:09:39.140 To me, one of the major things that just completely shocks me about what's happened in Canada is the crime,
00:09:46.080 is the number of home invasions, the carjackings,
00:09:49.360 the incredible violence that we see pouring out onto our streets.
00:09:52.800 And in part, it's fueled by drug wars and drug money.
00:09:57.560 And the fact that we have even foreign nationals,
00:10:00.260 but Canadians alike, involved in this dark world
00:10:03.420 of transnational gangs producing and transporting drugs
00:10:07.660 all over the world.
00:10:08.660 That's why I thought it was a welcomed announcement yesterday
00:10:11.220 that we saw from Conservative leader Pierre Polyev,
00:10:13.600 who announced that if Prime Minister, he would impose life sentences for these thugs, for these
00:10:20.780 fentanyl kingpins. Fentanyl is killing tens of thousands of Canadians. It's killing tens of
00:10:26.380 thousands of Americans too. It's why President Trump is rightfully concerned and rightfully
00:10:31.020 wants Canada to crack down on this absolute scourge. So again, yesterday, Conservative
00:10:37.760 leader, Pierre Polyev, announced as prime minister, he would impose mandatory life sentences on anyone
00:10:44.000 involved in the trafficking, production, and distribution of over 40 milligrams of fentanyl
00:10:51.140 and 15 years for traffickers caught with between 20 and 40 milligrams.
00:10:58.540 programs. And our guest on today's program has been reporting and writing about these issues
00:11:07.120 for years and years and years. I feel like he's finally getting vindicated because so many of the
00:11:11.280 things that he's been telling us about are finally being recognized by the political class. I'm
00:11:15.420 talking about Sam Cooper. Sam is an award-winning investigative journalist, best-selling author.
00:11:20.320 You can find Sam's work on Substack. It is called The Bureau, and I recommend you head on over there
00:11:25.540 and check it out. So Sam, thank you so much for joining the podcast today.
00:11:29.200 Glad to be here.
00:11:30.760 So why don't I just put the easy question to you first. Does Canada have a fentanyl problem
00:11:35.920 in our country and at our border? Canada has a massive fentanyl problem. My book,
00:11:42.280 Willful Blindness, was ahead of the curve in recognizing that. I'll just give you a few data
00:11:47.480 points. I found that a businessman, quote, businessman connected to a Chinese organized
00:11:54.460 crime that was running billions of dollars through bc government regulated casinos was caught with
00:12:00.700 85 tons of precursors for fentanyl and methamphetamine that was back in around 2016.
00:12:08.700 recently there's a super lab up in you know falkland bc in a mountainous area tucked away
00:12:15.340 there it had a mexican cartel fentanyl lab recipes chinese mandarin labeled the precursor boxes
00:12:24.460 And the Mounties said they were capable of producing 95 million doses of fentanyl, enough to kill every Canadian twice over.
00:12:34.780 One more data point, 2022, the Vancouver port, there was a thousand kilograms of fentanyl precursors caught by CBSA.
00:12:44.380 They were disguised in toy bins, came in in a container, I believe from China.
00:12:50.660 So Vancouver's port, as I've reported, has been infiltrated on a deep scale by organized crime, specifically Chinese organized crime.
00:13:01.140 And the Americans have been very concerned about this issue for years in Canada and our inability to prosecute fentanyl.
00:13:11.780 And it's only coming to the surface now with Donald Trump's very harsh rhetoric against Canada.
00:13:18.100 But all my expert sources in the U.S. and Canada say, Mr. Trump is right.
00:13:24.620 And even the Biden administration was saying the same thing.
00:13:29.720 And so we're facing a very serious problem.
00:13:32.440 I mean, it's frustrating that it takes a foreign entity like the Americans, like Donald Trump, to force Canada to recognize this.
00:13:39.380 And I still see some pushback, Sam, in the media.
00:13:42.080 Like there's a media narrative that Trump is just being irrational and that the border
00:13:47.500 problem really is solely in Mexico and that the Canada thing is just sort of made up so
00:13:51.980 that Trump can impose his economic tariff agenda.
00:13:55.460 You can see here, CNN writes that Canada makes up just 0.2% of U.S. border fentanyl seizures.
00:14:02.020 And here, this is a stat that's repeated often, Sam, that there's only been 43 pounds seized
00:14:07.620 at the Canadian border, 43 pounds of fentanyl compared with 21,000 pounds of fentanyl on the
00:14:13.800 Mexican border. So, you know, they sort of downplay it. They make it seem like it's not really a big
00:14:19.480 deal. I would argue it's probably because they're not inspecting vehicles in the same way across the
00:14:25.260 Canada border. We did see some Canadian, quote unquote, Canadian truck drivers. Some of them
00:14:29.520 were Indians on student visas to Canada, driving around with transport trucks full of drugs down
00:14:36.200 in Indiana and other states. So can you help us sort of understand why is it so few at the Canada
00:14:42.040 border compared to the Mexico border? And is there truth to this media narrative that it's so much
00:14:48.060 more of a problem for Mexico and smaller problem for Canada? Well, I've looked into this for 10
00:14:52.920 years. So I saw you pulled up a name of a big former Toronto Star reporter. People are repeating
00:14:59.140 at a surface level, a data point, 40 pounds, you know, at the land border. And you're right,
00:15:06.380 the United States certainly has addressed the Mexican border in a much different way than
00:15:11.840 the Canadian border. But people are missing the facts that I've laid out that British Columbia
00:15:17.440 for decades has been the Western hub in North America for Chinese organized crime. The individuals
00:15:25.200 that have penetrated Vancouver real estate and port
00:15:28.940 are the very same Chinese Communist Party-sponsored tycoons
00:15:34.760 that the U.S. military is concerned with in Panama.
00:15:39.340 And by the way, Panama has reacted very quickly
00:15:42.060 to threats that America won't put up with their port
00:15:45.480 being under such covert influence from China.
00:15:50.120 So people are missing really the fact
00:15:53.160 that we have a decentralized offshore node
00:15:57.280 of China's fentanyl production in British Columbia.
00:16:00.280 And let me reiterate those points.
00:16:02.600 1,000 kilograms of fentanyl precursors in 2022
00:16:07.080 into Vancouver port.
00:16:09.300 85 tons of fentanyl and methamphetamine precursors
00:16:13.820 seized from a Vancouver area businessman
00:16:17.540 that I reported was working
00:16:19.940 with Chinese organized crime casino money launders.
00:16:23.160 Those are figures that if you extrapolate the amount of fentanyl pills they can produce, that can kill everyone in North America a few times over.
00:16:33.720 And no one in law enforcement, indeed, not many reporters have deep law enforcement sources, but no one in Canada and the United States at a high level is disputing that British Columbia especially is a global node for fentanyl production.
00:16:50.080 And it stems from China.
00:16:51.120 the last point here is that uh look i republished an interview that i did with a a vancouver area
00:16:58.960 mayor brad west in 2023 uh he disclosed that biden administrator biden admin secretary of
00:17:07.440 state antony blinken came up to british columbia and reached out directly to the only politician
00:17:12.880 taking fentanyl seriously brad west and uh mr west disclosed his discussion the biden administration
00:17:20.320 was deeply concerned with Canada's legal loopholes and inability to prosecute fentanyl production
00:17:27.200 and transnational organized crime, gaping holes in money laundering regulation. And, you know,
00:17:35.480 Canada's being used. And what I just said there indicates this is a democratic secretary of state
00:17:41.860 saying, Canada, you need to work on something so we can have joint investigations. Now, of course,
00:17:47.960 an honest person will recognize that's exactly what has come out of this phone call with President
00:17:53.680 Trump and Prime Minister Trudeau. The U.S. needs joint investigations and some sort of workaround
00:18:00.060 with Canadian law. Well, help us understand those gaping holes that exist in Canadian law
00:18:04.760 and the extent to which we have these Chinese criminal entities operating in Canada. I think
00:18:10.540 that might come as a surprise to many viewers, the fact that these Chinese criminal gangs are
00:18:15.880 able to operate in Canada. I know that Pierre Polyev released a video yesterday talking about
00:18:21.680 how he wants to bring in life sentences for people who are involved in like the kingpins of this
00:18:27.660 fentanyl trade. And that one of the laws that he mentioned was Bill C-5, the Liberals had brought
00:18:33.020 in, which basically got away, did away with mandatory minimums and Polyev would bring it
00:18:38.600 back. But help us understand the laws that are needed, the holes and how it is that China has
00:18:44.920 been able to get such a foothold in Canada. What we have in Canada is essentially a completely
00:18:52.520 neutered RCMP that doesn't have the laws to investigate and prosecute money laundering.
00:19:00.800 So that without getting into too many legal weeds, as my prosecutor expert sources, veterans,
00:19:08.720 tell me there's no such thing as a money laundering defense or an organized defense
00:19:15.360 crime organized crime defense in canada some from from some very serious criminals without
00:19:20.400 a charter of rights defense and what that means is canada has a huge difficulty in not only
00:19:26.960 prosecuting massive money laundering offenses uh but they can't even get police can't get wiretaps
00:19:34.720 unknown mexican cartel operatives or chinese triad operatives that have set up in vancouver
00:19:41.040 toronto and montreal and if you're saying you know where's the proof of this gaping weakness
00:19:46.960 the toronto dominion bank case where this canadian bank is prosecuted in a deferred prosecution
00:19:53.840 agreement something like a four billion dollar canadian fine and my american law enforcement
00:20:00.160 sources said look the u.s government had to step up and point to the massive fentanyl money laundering
00:20:06.000 running through that canadian bank and uh furthermore their investigation showed that the
00:20:13.440 what they call the command and control of the chinese organized crime behind that money
00:20:18.880 laundering operation is in toronto and vancouver and they're laundering they're setting up the
00:20:25.040 whole money laundering system for the mexican cartels that are you know the ones pushing the
00:20:30.720 fentanyl in american cities and streets it's uh chinese support chinese government supported
00:20:38.240 criminals that are based in toronto and vancouver because of our weak laws that are running uh the
00:20:43.920 western hemisphere money laundering they're the masterminds of this and as my dea sources say
00:20:49.680 say, not many people know that Chinese organized crime is at the top of the food chain for
00:20:55.900 international organized crime in the Western Hemisphere. It's not even the cartels. It's
00:21:01.360 a whole economic system that's based on money moving around the world in so-called underground
00:21:09.360 banks that are connected to Chinese diaspora communities and organized crime that's shocking
00:21:15.300 to believe is supported by Beijing.
00:21:18.040 One of the things that Pierre was talking about in his video yesterday was how there
00:21:22.200 are these super labs that exist in Canada.
00:21:24.480 You mentioned Falkland, British Columbia, I think there was a raid and they found just
00:21:28.000 incredibly sophisticated drug super labs that are straight out of a Hollywood movie or Breaking
00:21:33.700 Bad.
00:21:36.600 Who set them up?
00:21:37.600 Like, where are they coming from?
00:21:38.900 Why are the Chinese allowed to operate like this in Canada?
00:21:43.280 I've been talking to off-the-record police sources on that Falkland lab case for a while, so let's draw the mind map.
00:21:52.760 This massive industrial-scale lab is tucked up into a mountainous town not too far from the Alberta border in British Columbia that has two police officers.
00:22:04.180 So it's up there in the woods. There's a fairly, I'm told, sizable motorcycle outlaw gang population in the area.
00:22:11.840 But my sources are very firm in saying this is Mexican cartel run, Chinese triad run.
00:22:20.180 And there are even, as I am told, Iranian state-sponsored crime indications in this operation at the highest levels.
00:22:30.380 And so it could be, you know, the very well-entrenched biker gangs and the street gangs in B.C. that are running the product around.
00:22:38.140 But when it comes to shipping the precursors into Vancouver's port, remember those thousand kilogram seizures I told you about, there's a lot that's not being seized.
00:22:48.160 It's being moved into Vancouver's port, which is controlled by organized crime pretty extensively.
00:22:55.560 Those precursors are sent up to an area of British Columbia with not many police.
00:23:01.000 And then the product, the RCMP confirmed this, is exported out of British Columbia.
00:23:06.460 So it goes, as I know, to Australia, it goes to Japan, it goes to the United States, and that's by shipping.
00:23:15.760 And it gets very complex.
00:23:17.660 I come back to your question, you know, why is so little comparatively caught at a land border?
00:23:22.940 Well, it's being shipped back out of Vancouver port and moved around the world in sophisticated ways.
00:23:28.600 Can you help us understand, like, why don't they find it in the ports?
00:23:32.360 Like, what is the procedure?
00:23:34.460 Are people just allowed to pack their own trailers and put them in without inspection?
00:23:39.880 I'm just trying to wrap my head around how so many drugs, so much drugs are passing through our Canadian cities without being stopped and detected.
00:23:47.920 This is a huge story.
00:23:49.600 And again, this is why the U.S. intelligence and law enforcement community and politicians like Trump now very openly are concerned.
00:23:57.980 In the 1990s, we had federal port police in Vancouver.
00:24:02.520 As I've written in Willful Blindness, my book and for the Bureau very recently, documents say that Canadian police were up, were afraid, were outraged when the Christian government pulled the federal port police out of Vancouver and in Canada's other ports and privatized those ports.
00:24:21.480 So what occurred is that foreign organized crime entities were able to apply for docking facilities in Vancouver.
00:24:32.660 The Hells Angels infiltrated the union.
00:24:36.000 Let's just keep focused on Vancouver.
00:24:38.580 And as one of my police expert sources, Gary Clement, says, who's investigated this for years and warned about it for years with no result,
00:24:49.080 the fox is running the hen house for the ports. There's maybe the latest figures I hear are one
00:24:55.500 to at top 5% of containers coming in to Vancouver port are searched. And some of this is open source
00:25:03.740 information. Some of it I'm telling you is historical intelligence documents. And some of
00:25:11.440 it is off the record, very fresh and current intelligence from Canadian police sources that
00:25:17.240 say they don't like hearing what Donald Trump's saying more than anyone else, but Donald Trump
00:25:22.640 unfortunately is right. We can't defend ourselves. Well, I mean, thankfully Trump is pointing it out
00:25:28.840 because I mean, what you describe is kind of like a United Nations of bad guys in Canada operating
00:25:34.600 these drug communities, you know, Iranians, Mexicans, Chinese. I wonder if that's what
00:25:40.020 Justin Trudeau envisioned when he called Canada the first post-national state. I know Pierre
00:25:44.040 Poliev has been hammering Trudeau on this. I want to play a clip. This was from back in December.
00:25:49.780 And Pierre Poliev explains how it's Justin Trudeau's agenda that has led to this crisis. Let's play this
00:25:57.160 clip. The results are in on the prime minister's radical liberalization of hard drugs. He teamed
00:26:02.360 up with the BCNDP to decriminalize fentanyl crack and heroin. He lowered jail sentences for mass
00:26:10.340 producers of deadly fentanyl. And 80% of the fentanyl made in Canada is done so using
00:26:18.440 ingredients that are not even regulated, but come right into our country where they're cooked
00:26:24.380 into that poison. Now threatening our trade relationship with the U.S., will he reverse
00:26:29.920 his radical liberal drug agenda to save lives and jobs? So this was back in December 2024.
00:26:37.880 Pierre pointing out that it's also to do
00:26:39.920 with Justin Trudeau's drug policies.
00:26:41.920 I want to share a post that Pierre Polyev put on social media
00:26:45.520 back in August of 2024.
00:26:48.340 I couldn't believe this.
00:26:49.620 Like I had to ask my staff to like, just like,
00:26:53.140 am I reading this right?
00:26:54.240 Like, what am I missing here?
00:26:55.240 Because it was so outrageous.
00:26:57.060 Sean, if we could show this image here.
00:26:59.220 This is a post on Instagram of a company.
00:27:03.800 So Pierre Polyev is sharing this as a tweet,
00:27:06.100 but the picture that you can see is of the the caption says a beautiful chunk of fentanyl okay
00:27:13.060 and so this is as Pierre points out one of Justin Trudeau's drug dens wants you wants to share with
00:27:19.900 you a beautiful chunk of fentanyl a dangerous hard drug that destroys the lives of tens of thousands
00:27:23.980 of people shut down these wacko drug dens ban hard drugs fund treatment and recovery and bring
00:27:30.300 our loved ones home drug free. Like I just, I couldn't believe. So the original post was from
00:27:37.100 a group called the Kensington Market Overdose Prevention Site. This is one of the government
00:27:42.180 funded, you know, they call it an anti-harm site or prevention site, but they're actually
00:27:48.640 celebrating and calling it a beautiful chunk of fentanyl. I mean, I just don't understand how
00:27:53.740 anyone can look at fentanyl and think that I need to share this on social media. It's so beautiful.
00:27:57.960 So can you help me understand, like, how is Justin Trudeau's drug laws also allowing all of this to happen?
00:28:07.600 This is an issue that I have outsourced for the Bureau to a reporter that's really dug in named Adam Zeevo.
00:28:16.760 It's called Safer Supply.
00:28:18.720 It's been called harm reduction, which is, you know, a medical idea that we can lessen the harms of, you know, some very, very impoverished and often mentally sort of ill people that are abusing drugs.
00:28:33.780 But what Safer Supply does is it gives out, you know, medical Health Canada opioids.
00:28:42.820 You know, they're called Dilialu.
00:28:45.280 I'm going to get the name wrong.
00:28:46.840 The kids call them Dillies.
00:28:48.120 You know, this is a type of pharmaceutical that BC pharmacies are legislated to give out to addicts to get them off so-called toxic heroin, toxic heroin and fentanyl.
00:29:02.840 And what's happening is that organized crime dealers just swoop in and take the Dillys or the Canadian regulated pharmaceuticals that are given to addicts and they up and sell them, you know, across Canada.
00:29:20.520 Internationally, it has come out. So organized crime is taking this government substitute heroin or opioids and is using the proceeds to deal more fentanyl.
00:29:33.520 And I think that's what Mr. Polyev is getting towards. There is, you know, within what could have started as a good idea, sort of let's treat the, you know, the epidemic in our streets with a medical sort of approach.
00:29:49.540 it hasn't turned out. And then so you get radical populations of pharmacists and harm reductionists
00:29:57.320 that will post a picture of beautiful, what you and I know is life destroying fentanyl. And it's
00:30:03.820 just, I mean, it's an example of an ideology that's run, there's no common sense to it. It
00:30:12.520 just leads to, makes a bad problem worse in a nutshell. It's so unbelievable to me that they
00:30:17.920 would be like celebrating a drug that kills thousands and thousands of Canadians per year.
00:30:22.600 Like I didn't even know that fentanyl was a drug that people took. I thought it was something that
00:30:25.940 was like accidentally put in other drugs. So I didn't know that myself, but unbelievable the
00:30:31.600 fact that the Trudeau government is involved with giving sick people like deadly street drugs.
00:30:37.860 Sam, I really want to ask you a final question unrelated. Since I have you on the show, I know
00:30:42.720 that this is right up your wheelhouse. So we had that parliamentary report that came out
00:30:46.740 last week saying that really there was no foreign interference after all that after two years of
00:30:52.400 headlines nobody acted in bad faith so I'm just wondering I know we only have a few minutes but
00:30:59.780 what what was your takeaway from that report well I I didn't hold back very much when I went on a
00:31:07.380 podcast with three former CSIS officers and we we all are of the opinion that the the report of
00:31:14.920 Justice Hoag is, there's no other way to put it but a whitewash, or you could call it David
00:31:21.820 Johnston 2.0. A number of people have pointed out, unfortunately, that I say I wanted to give
00:31:28.900 the justice a chance to see what she would do with the evidence. And with her whitewash report,
00:31:33.920 I think it's important to point out that others have noted, historically, she and her former law
00:31:41.460 firm had close connections to two liberal prime ministers, one of them related to Justin Trudeau,
00:31:46.800 his father, Pierre Trudeau. So it looks like a situation where I think the good of the Hogue
00:31:54.300 Commission is that thousands of documents came out. And so reporters, diligent, curious Canadians
00:32:02.540 can go in and read the evidence for themselves. There's no denying that China has deeply interfered
00:32:08.660 in uh our recent elections but there's also no denying that the commission was given a very
00:32:14.980 narrow mandate which justice hogan admitted a small time frame to look into these concerns
00:32:21.540 and at the end of the day uh came to a completely different conclusion than as you know the nsi cup
00:32:28.020 2024 report from bipartisan uh panel of parliamentarians that reviewed something like
00:32:35.220 thousands of the same documents that the Hogue Commission did, and they came to the finding that
00:32:41.660 there are Canadian parliamentarians wittingly working with foreign governments. So I just
00:32:47.560 can't reconcile those two different findings and looking at the evidence without any bias,
00:32:54.960 I think the evidence, and also my private knowledge of more evidence that didn't come out,
00:32:59.700 supports the conclusion that indeed there are politicians wittingly working with foreign
00:33:06.280 governments, benefiting knowingly from foreign government support. And I'll add one quote that
00:33:12.180 never made it into a story with my former employer. My colleague Stuart Bell talked to one of his
00:33:18.940 RCMP sources for one of our stories and the source said, the amount of politicians entangled
00:33:25.800 in foreign interference is is large and the honest ones had better wake up and understand
00:33:32.520 what they're getting involved with it's unbelievable you know there's so much huffing
00:33:36.520 and puffing over donald trump's comments and jests about canada becoming the 51st state and canadians
00:33:42.120 jumping up and down demanding um that we maintain our sovereignty and maintain our independence
00:33:46.840 meanwhile we have our parliament that is at risk of foreign interference and our elections at risk
00:33:53.240 of foreign interference and we have drug pins a kingpins from all over the world operating in
00:33:58.280 canada doesn't really paint a very optimistic uh picture of the sovereignty of canada i think we
00:34:03.720 really have our work cut out for you uh cut out for us uh sam what do you think i believe so and
00:34:10.120 you know i'll add this my information and i'm conversant with u.s intelligence uh officials
00:34:17.320 and politicians versed in u.s intelligence is that the u.s government at a bipartisan level has
00:34:23.960 a deep concern with uh canada's incapacity to uh counter foreign interference most specifically
00:34:32.680 from china but also iranian state-sponsored crime and terror networks and uh individuals
00:34:39.640 that want to use canada's borders to hurt the united states that's the concern and that's why
00:34:44.840 mr president trump is saying some very hurtful but uh a lot of it truthful things towards canada
00:34:52.440 and my last observation is i just i find a level of denial from what what a lot of people call the
00:34:59.000 laurentian elite that has kind of run this country for 40 years and has run it in a bad direction i
00:35:05.080 think and we're we're seeing what the end result of that is right now well sam thank you so much
00:35:10.840 for joining the show and keep up the incredible work that you do you're one of the best if not
00:35:15.160 the best investigative journalist independent journalist in the country so uh thanks for all
00:35:19.640 your all your work and thanks for your time today thanks so much and really everybody should go check
00:35:26.040 out sam cooper's uh sub stack it's called the bureau subscribe over there to help support his
00:35:31.400 work because from best i can tell he is one of the only ones who not only has this information
00:35:35.720 at his fingertips, has the expertise and the knowledge to find the information, but also has
00:35:40.460 the courage and the bravery to expose it. Because believe me, when you're exposing this kind of
00:35:45.960 information about the worst people, the absolute worst people in Canada, it definitely comes with
00:35:52.140 some risks. So we want to do everything we can to support a fellow independent journalist over
00:35:57.100 there. Okay. I do want to get to Mark Carney, because I think this was quite the gaffe. It
00:36:01.340 really shows us what Carney is really thinking.
00:36:04.620 You know, there's so much made about how Mark Carney
00:36:07.020 is sort of like a new and improved Justin Trudeau,
00:36:09.160 that he has the same beliefs as Justin Trudeau,
00:36:11.480 but somehow he's better put together
00:36:13.600 and he looks more like a prime minister
00:36:15.120 and he has this banking background
00:36:16.440 and this very fancy education.
00:36:19.380 I don't think he's a very good politician.
00:36:21.480 And it's clips like this that make me think that.
00:36:23.640 But first I'm gonna introduce our next guest on the show,
00:36:26.480 who is Julian Newman.
00:36:28.320 He is an entrepreneur and the former head organizer for the NDP under Tom Mulcair,
00:36:34.080 and he ran Quebec operations for that party under Jack Layton, someone we had on the show before,
00:36:40.160 so I will welcome Julian now. Hey, Julian, thanks for joining us.
00:36:44.240 Thanks for having me back, Candice.
00:36:46.160 Yeah, it's always a pleasure. Okay, let's play this clip. I want to show the audience
00:36:50.320 what I'm talking about here. This is Mark Carney at a campaign stop in Windsor, Ontario,
00:36:55.120 yesterday February 5th talking to reporters and this sounds like a canned line I think that he
00:37:00.880 pre-prepared this so this is where his campaign is coming from let's play that clip there's a fever
00:37:08.320 gripping America and while it rages Canadians will remain resolute and true to our values
00:37:17.040 while America engages in a war on woke Canadians will continue to value inclusiveness
00:37:25.680 So he's talking about a fire raging in the United States. I don't know. It sounds like a movement
00:37:30.380 that I want to be part of. Mark Carney says that the war on woke is something that he will not do
00:37:35.260 and he'll fight against. So I guess that means that he wants to fight a war for woke
00:37:39.020 in exchange for exclusivity. I don't know if you have the memo, like, you know, 2018 is long over.
00:37:45.480 2025, people don't like that stuff anymore. Julian, what was your take on this?
00:37:49.240 exactly the same as you you know it's like uh the war on woke is over the war on woke finished five
00:37:56.140 years ago um you know my job as an entrepreneur uh i spend most of my time with like fortune 500
00:38:03.000 ceos and like davos type people this is what they were saying and thinking like eight years ago like
00:38:10.080 nobody's on board for this stuff anymore i mostly live in california people in california are over
00:38:15.520 this stuff like this guy is it's like you know 2012 is calling they want their style back
00:38:23.200 well it just seems to me that when when you look at like what what's happened right there was this
00:38:28.000 cultural moment where you had black lives matter you had uh in canada the story of the unmarked
00:38:32.960 graves and there was just a lot of like consternation and it moved right into the corporate
00:38:37.760 world where all of a sudden all the banks and all the corporations were really just pushing
00:38:42.880 pride down our throat. They've been doing it for years. They've been doing it for decades,
00:38:46.500 really. But it just really ramped up, I think, post-COVID. We were all a little crazy.
00:38:50.820 And all of a sudden, everybody's pronouns were showing up in their bios and right after their
00:38:57.080 names on social media. And it was like they were really pushing it. And I think that one of the
00:39:01.280 things that came out of the 2024 election was a big sort of FU, pardon my language, but we're
00:39:08.560 done with it. We're done with boys playing in girls sports. We're done with this whole idea
00:39:14.100 that we have to use your preferred pronoun or any number of things. I don't think that Canada's had
00:39:21.940 a total sudden shift. I think we still have our work cut out for us in this country to rid the
00:39:26.680 sort of ideological scourge that exists, especially in our education system. But I think as a general
00:39:33.720 vibe, you know, the zeitgeist in our culture right now, this is wrong. And so I'm just wondering,
00:39:38.800 like, who's advising Mark Carney? Why does he think that this is a good line? And for you,
00:39:45.440 Julianne, from the NDP perspective, like if the liberals want to go hard woke again,
00:39:50.460 what do you think the NDP should do in that situation?
00:39:54.980 Well, I can tell you what the NDP should do, which is to, you know, just be normal.
00:40:00.360 um what the ndp will do is the complete opposite of that and if you look at the jagmeet sings
00:40:07.240 twitter like his twitter bio the first thing in his twitter bio is please pronounce my name
00:40:14.100 properly it's pronounced jug meat like dude no one cares your name's jagmeet we speak english
00:40:20.400 here like get over it um so you know that's they're also stuck in this weird rabbit hole
00:40:27.800 Like, I think the only two humans alive today who care about this stuff other than Mark Carney are like Justin and Jack Mead.
00:40:36.060 But, you know, who's advising Mark Carney?
00:40:39.040 It's probably just him.
00:40:40.540 This is probably really what he thinks because he's like so stuck in his, you know, banker bubble in London.
00:40:48.880 Yeah, the sort of BlackRock agenda, the WEF agenda.
00:40:51.760 I want to tie this to what Donald Trump is doing down in the States.
00:40:54.880 it's just been fast and furious one executive order after another it has conservatives like me
00:40:59.600 just like cheering and applauding and waiting for the moment when we can implement this kind
00:41:04.320 of stuff in canada i hopefully it'll be soon hopefully it will be under a peer poly of
00:41:09.600 government but maybe not maybe maybe we still need a strong ppc uh you know section to to be pushing
00:41:16.560 this kind of stuff even harder because i don't know the conservatives will come all the way around
00:41:19.920 even though they definitely should but yesterday donald trump signed this incredible executive
00:41:24.640 order i want to play the clip because the imagery is just so beautiful here it's just it's such a
00:41:29.920 win for donald trump such a win for conservatives he signed this executive order that will ban
00:41:35.200 men from playing in women's sports i can't believe this is even controversial the whole
00:41:40.160 point of women's sports is so that girls can have a chance to play without uh getting hurt and and
00:41:44.960 without having to compete against someone who has an unfair advantage because they're bigger
00:41:48.560 and stronger um so here was trump on wednesday signing this executive order
00:41:55.840 oh i think we have a 10. we have a 10.
00:42:09.200 so the order titled keeping men out of women's sports mandates that title nine the federal law
00:42:14.240 banning sex discrimination in schools be interpreted as prohibiting part the participation
00:42:19.520 of transgendered girls and women in female sports uh trump said that we will not allow men to beat
00:42:25.280 up injure or cheat our women or our girls from now on women's sports will only be for women amen
00:42:32.080 i just want to show you one more uh post because uh when i read this julian i thought of you because
00:42:37.360 i think maybe uh this might be how you feel but you can tell me what you think so this is a
00:42:41.040 philosophy professor uh at american you know at an open university uh named john pike and he writes
00:42:47.840 this he says how could the left my side the clever side the critical side the informed side the
00:42:54.560 anti-sexist side be so deeply stupid as to hand this victory to someone who is none of these
00:43:01.200 things so i i think that that is someone on the political left who gets it uh what do you think
00:43:06.880 i i think that's how everybody like every actual real human leftist feels um you know you have
00:43:15.440 these people who posture uh online to get like twitter bots to like their tweets they think
00:43:23.040 that you know all this strange stuff is the way to go i haven't met a single ndp member and i
00:43:31.360 assume it's the same in the liberal party who is still on board with this stuff like they just
00:43:36.640 don't exist in the wild interesting i mean i i don't i don't agree with what john pike the
00:43:42.880 professor said there because i don't think that the left is actually the clever critical informed
00:43:46.880 anti-sexicide i think a lot of the sort of hidden undertones particularly of the trans movement
00:43:52.560 was that it's quite anti-woman um the fact that they couldn't even define what a woman was and
00:43:57.920 it always seemed to be aimed at women not men um you know there's still there's still an easier
00:44:02.560 time defining what a man is because everyone knows what a man is um but but it was particularly women
00:44:07.280 and um i've seen this because i've been critical of trans sex change surgeries of cross-sex hormones
00:44:13.760 especially given to children um you know i've seen my fair share of vitriol from these people online
00:44:20.240 who are very animated and very angry and i think a lot of it is sort of you know just disguised
00:44:27.040 hatred, but they did sort of rule the day, right? Everyone in corporate Canada and the political
00:44:34.440 left, Trudeau, Singh, both parties sort of embrace this thing wholeheartedly. It's going to be
00:44:40.520 interesting if they walk it back, if Mark Carney continues to go full-fledged in so-called
00:44:47.180 against the war on woke. Do you think this will be a ballot box question in the upcoming election?
00:44:52.860 And what is the correct position for people on the left to be taking on this issue?
00:44:57.040 I think the correct position for people on the left is to say this is just not an important issue for us.
00:45:02.720 This has nothing to do with the left.
00:45:04.980 This has something to do with something else that's just not left.
00:45:09.700 It's not right.
00:45:10.620 It has nothing to do with that.
00:45:12.860 Like the left, my definition of left is you're on the side of workers and normal people have jobs.
00:45:21.240 And that's what you should be focused on.
00:45:23.240 And, you know, on this issue, right, what do most normal, regular people have jobs think of it? That is left wing position. There is another position, and it's the kind of like, 50 people live around the University of Toronto and are unemployed and have nothing to do but to tweet.
00:45:42.520 those people have their own position I think they brand themselves as left but you know you know if
00:45:49.900 you want to get the 50 votes go for it but you know if you want to get real Canadians whether
00:45:56.100 you're Mark Carney or Jagmeet Singh you know you should be talking about things they care about
00:46:00.940 okay well let's talk about the Canadian political situation right now because we're sort of in this
00:46:06.720 weird situation where we're dealing with a national crisis but we don't have parliament
00:46:10.640 Parliament's not in session because Justin Trudeau prorogued it. You have Pierre Polyev calling for
00:46:16.160 Parliament to get back in session so that we can possibly pass a bunch of bills and measures to
00:46:20.940 beef up the border security, possibly provide aid to workers if there is a trade war. But then at
00:46:26.900 the same time, Jagmeet Singh had said that if Parliament is recalled, he'll immediately call
00:46:30.760 an election. So there's kind of a contradiction where it's like, we want to get Parliament back,
00:46:34.800 but as soon as Parliament's back, we're going to have a non-confidence vote to pull the plug
00:46:40.000 government to force elections so we wouldn't be able to pass any of these kind of spending bills
00:46:43.600 anyways and then you had jagmeet singh kind of hinting at the fact that maybe he won't pull the
00:46:48.720 plug on the government so this is a clip from last week tuesday january 28th right uh you know before
00:46:55.040 the tariffs were imposed and before trump reversed the tariffs um so he was speaking at a press
00:46:59.760 conference where he says maybe we just won't uh let's play that clip uh if trump follows through
00:47:07.120 on this plan with tariffs, would you keep the Liberals in power and allow for the passage of
00:47:12.000 a work relief program before supporting a non-confidence motion? I'll just start off by
00:47:18.080 the fact that I've spoken with a lot of workers who are deeply worried about what the Trump
00:47:22.880 tariffs might mean. We do need to have a plan in place to support those that are impacted,
00:47:27.680 those businesses, those workers, most importantly. If there is any desire to move forward, the
00:47:31.840 the government should call us together like we did during COVID and discuss a plan that supports
00:47:36.920 workers. So he's talking about discussing a plan, having everybody together. That doesn't really
00:47:42.480 sound like I'm going to pull the plug and force an election the second we get back, which is what
00:47:47.180 you applied before. What do you make of all this? Yeah, well, I'll start by saying Jagmeet has no
00:47:52.880 plan to trigger an election. And we've actually been doing, our group has been doing quite
00:47:58.940 substantive uh investigations into what's going on on on the ground i've been working with several
00:48:05.740 news outlets to try to get them to write a piece on this um so i can get back to that but um you
00:48:13.420 know on the broader situation i think it's you know much worse than what you described like our
00:48:19.340 prime ministers quit right we have our parliament who are the only people that that canadians vote
00:48:25.660 for in the canadian you know political system they've been dissolved there's no parliament
00:48:32.220 um the the ministers they're like jockeying to like keep their job in the next you know with
00:48:38.700 whoever becomes the the uh prime minister and then like the opposition leaders right and this includes
00:48:47.260 includes the conservatives and the ndp and the bloc everybody their incentive is not to look out
00:48:54.860 for canada's interests it's to do electioneering so that they win the next election or don't get
00:48:59.660 wiped out in the case of the ndp um like what canada needs is a real functional government
00:49:08.220 what canada needs is an election so that people can get into a normal situation and they can have
00:49:15.500 the incentive which is a right incentive just to look out for canada because right now nobody wants
00:49:21.660 to do that because it's counterproductive for them to be on the side of canada they're incentivized
00:49:27.420 to be on the side of themselves well you certainly saw that i think that so much of the posturing
00:49:32.540 around the trump tariff war was really designed to boost justin trudeau's uh public approval rating
00:49:39.820 uh which doesn't make sense to your point that he supposedly quit i mean he told us that he was
00:49:44.860 resigning and then he didn't actually resign so he said he he was intending to resign eventually
00:49:50.620 And now we're stuck with him in this complete, ridiculous, lame duck scenario.
00:49:55.160 And meanwhile, we have Mark Carney, who's basically being selected and put in as prime minister.
00:50:03.100 And he's saying that he's regularly in communication with cabinet and making comments to Trump about the trade war.
00:50:09.720 Hello, he's not even the liberal leader yet.
00:50:11.660 I do think he'll win and I do presume that he will be our next prime minister, but he's not at this point.
00:50:17.000 So he has no business telling cabinet ministers what to do or being in communication with them.
00:50:22.680 I don't even know if he has security clearance.
00:50:26.160 It's totally making a mockery of our system.
00:50:29.680 And, you know, it's no wonder, I talked about it off the top of the show, how pride in Canada has plummeted.
00:50:36.100 It's incredible.
00:50:37.080 Back in the 80s, pride in Canada was like almost universal.
00:50:41.180 It was like 80%, 85% of Canadians loved being Canadian and felt very, very proud.
00:50:46.120 And under this government, under what has happened with Justin Trudeau, it's down to 34 percent. Now the media are doing their best to try to boost him back up. And he's gotten a little boost with this Trump back and forth, which, again, makes me a little bit cynical about whether it wasn't all just an act to try to boost his public opinion and what Canadians think of him. What do you think?
00:51:08.060 i think justin trudeau is fixated on two things one sabotaging christopher freeland who he now
00:51:16.940 hates uh and two um pandering to whoever would give him a job or maybe even has already committed
00:51:27.680 to giving him a job uh after he leaves i mean and that's not like that is what you would expect
00:51:34.920 from a normal human being like in a month from now he'll be unemployed or maybe he'll have some
00:51:41.460 big job somewhere right and um christopher freeland just screwed him over uh i don't blame them to for
00:51:49.060 for doing that right like that's that's what anybody would do it's probably what i would do
00:51:53.980 that's why we need a proper real government and a proper real prime minister and that's why we need
00:51:59.900 an election to be called you know in december um and that's why we need an election be called
00:52:05.340 you know in april i guess um and unfortunately it doesn't seem like we're on track for having
00:52:12.380 an election called anytime soon and we're going to be stuck in this complete shitshow in a very
00:52:18.480 dangerous situation uh and you know you know the liberals are to blame but the ndp too okay so
00:52:26.060 Jagmeet. Jagmeet. Okay. So I want to ask you this because there's been these sort of videos and
00:52:31.440 rumors circulating online that we might not actually have an election, right? So many
00:52:35.000 Canadians were saying, phew, Justin Trudeau's resigned. That's got to mean that we're going
00:52:39.100 to have an election. We do have an Elections Canada Act that says that every four years,
00:52:43.500 there must be an election. So that would bring us to October. Then you had Jagmeet Singh saying
00:52:47.500 he was going to pull the plug so we could have an election. Presumably that would happen at the
00:52:51.360 end of March, when the Liberal leader is installed as Prime Minister, giving us a May election.
00:52:56.880 But then there's been this constitutional theory that the Elections Canada Act can actually be
00:53:03.040 rewritten by the legislature, and that our constitution only says that every five years
00:53:08.860 is when an election must happen, meaning that we wouldn't have one until October of 2026,
00:53:14.220 meaning another, what, 18 months of this Liberal NDP coalition government. So in order for that to
00:53:20.580 happen. Presumably, again, Mark Carney is going to be the prime minister. He's going to be installed.
00:53:26.260 And all he would have to do is negotiate a deal with Jagmeet, maybe say, hey, you can come and
00:53:31.760 be in my cabinet. You can be part of my inner circle of decision makers. All you have to do
00:53:36.880 is sign this piece of paper, sign away your soul. You've already done it. So you might as well make
00:53:40.560 another deal with the devil here. And Canadians could have to live through 18 months of an
00:53:46.660 unelected Mark Carney prime ministership. What do you think of that? So I'd say one,
00:53:52.640 nobody on the ground in the NDP is preparing for an election in a month and a half or two months.
00:53:58.980 They're just not. So they don't think, or the NDP as an institution doesn't think there's going to
00:54:06.260 be an election in April, or at least they're not acting as if they think that. So that's one thing.
00:54:13.340 The second thing is, as you say, this sort of fixed election date law that was set up, that's not how Canada's system works. Canada's system isn't that. There is no fixed election date in a parliamentary system.
00:54:31.120 And, you know, there's no reason why they can't prolong it further out.
00:54:41.560 You know, it's not like we've been doing this.
00:54:43.120 It's not this like set thing that we've been doing for hundreds of years.
00:54:46.240 Like it's happened like once or whatever.
00:54:48.960 And, you know, they can say, well, there's this big crisis, blah, blah, blah.
00:54:52.500 So that's entirely plausible.
00:54:53.840 and on the Jagmeet front, his incentive, as things stand, Jagmeet is going to lose his seat.
00:55:06.200 He will no longer be a member of parliament. Presumably that means he'll get booted out
00:55:10.340 as leader of the NDP. And like, what is he going to do afterwards? Like this is a guy with no
00:55:15.280 skills, right? What he wants, the only way he personally keeps his seat is if the liberals
00:55:22.080 do better right like in burnaby south i think they've renamed it um his riding it's kind of
00:55:30.320 like a three-way race where he wins the liberals if the liberals are doing really really badly
00:55:35.740 uh you know their vote goes to the conservatives and um jagmeet will lose
00:55:41.340 if the liberals are doing better jagmeet won't lose maybe a bunch of his caucus members will
00:55:47.760 lose maybe the ndp will get clobbered everywhere else but he'll keep his seat and and again right
00:55:53.140 like you that's what you have to expect that he's going to do um and that is just really really
00:56:03.580 really really bad for canada and for canadians and um i don't know like it's the absolute worst
00:56:12.280 thing that anybody could possibly do right now. I mean, it's a coup. And the fact that you say no
00:56:18.960 one in the NDP is preparing for an election, that's a tell. I don't know that we're going
00:56:23.820 to have an election in the next few months as so many of us believe. We might not even have one in
00:56:29.040 2025. It's so unbelievable. I can't even begin to imagine what that will do to our country and our
00:56:34.780 democracy and our faith in our institutions. Julian, kind of a sad note to be ending the
00:56:40.420 interview on. But I do appreciate your insight. It's nice to have a sane person on the left who's
00:56:46.800 willing to speak the truth and come on the show. So we'll definitely have to have you back. Thank
00:56:51.120 you so much for joining us. Thank you, Candice. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning
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