Juno News - Trudeau’s last SCANDAL on his way out the door

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us

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00:00:35.300 a five-star review. Again, it really helps us out. I want to talk about Justin Trudeau.

00:00:40.140 I want to talk about the gall of this man who announced back in early January that he

00:00:46.000 was resigning. He said he was resigning. He was stepping down. He wasn't going to lead

00:00:50.040 us anymore. And now he just won't go away. He inserts himself in the discussion with

00:00:54.800 President Donald Trump, we know that the reason, at least part of the reason, why Donald Trump is

00:00:59.740 being so aggressive towards Canada is because he doesn't like our prime minister. He doesn't like

00:01:04.040 Justin Trudeau. Well, here we are in the final days of Justin Trudeau's time as prime minister.

00:01:08.680 And what does he do? He announces an unbelievably large infrastructure project, which I promise you

00:01:14.460 will go insanely over budget if it ever gets completed. We're going to get into all of that.

00:01:19.660 I also want to talk about an incredible story that was broken by our friends over at True

00:01:25.440 North, and you can find the story on Juno News, about the gold heist suspects, the people

00:01:30.880 who are presumed to have carried out that gold heist that happened in Pearson Airport.

00:01:35.660 They're not only still at large, they're not even in Canada.

00:01:38.060 There's evidence now that suggests that they're just sort of living large in places like Dubai

00:01:43.360 and India.

00:01:44.300 So we're going to talk about all of that.

00:01:46.580 But to start off the show today, folks, I want to bring in a person who I have tremendous respect for, Professor David Millard Haskell, who's an associate professor at Wilfrid Laurier University.

00:01:57.460 Prior to being a professor, he was actually in our realm. He was a journalist and he had a successful career working in the media for TVO and several other radio stations and television stations.

00:02:09.100 And he is also a current senior fellow, research fellow over at the Aristotle Foundation, sorry.

00:02:16.940 So, David, thank you so much for joining the program today.

00:02:20.180 It's a pleasure.

00:02:21.360 So I saw one of the pieces that you had recently written with great interest over in an outlet called the American Conservative.

00:02:30.400 You have a piece called Invite Canada's Conservatives to Join America.

00:02:36.080 So I'm going to get you to walk us through this proposal.

00:02:38.580 Before, just for the audience, let's show a clip of President Trump making an offer about a united North America.

00:02:47.040 Canada and the United States, that would really be something.

00:02:51.600 You get rid of that artificially drawn line and you take a look at what that looks like.

00:02:57.020 And it would also be much better for national security.

00:02:59.420 Don't forget, we basically protect Canada.

00:03:01.260 so a lot of canadians see that and hear that and you know feel terrified uh others though i think

00:03:09.820 that there's a significant percentage i don't know if it's if it's uh 10 or a quarter it's up

00:03:14.620 to 50 of especially young men uh that that that hear that and say yeah that makes a lot of sense

00:03:19.900 i think that we might have a better future uh if we're if we're all one one big united country a

00:03:25.740 very counter to what the elites and legacy media and and and politicians basically of all stripes

00:03:30.700 it seems. But I found your piece interesting because you kind of get into some of the details

00:03:36.500 of why Americans might not want Canadians, right? Why they might not want to absorb us. So why don't 0.97

00:03:43.760 you tell us a little bit about what you wrote? Well, what I do, Candice, is I look at three

00:03:48.180 options that the Trump administration may want to consider. And the first thing I talk about is that

00:03:54.640 they probably wouldn't want all of Canada. And I move in that direction saying that if you look

00:04:01.580 at Canada itself, we lean politically to the left. And if the Trump administration were really trying

00:04:08.660 to bolster conservatism in the US, the worst thing they could do would be to bring all Canada 0.99

00:04:15.420 on board. So currently, we're at what, about 41 million people. And if this left-leaning country,

00:04:25.200 which Canada is, of 41 million people, came in holus bolus into the US, that'd be like the

00:04:30.260 equivalent of the state of California. So what they'd see is about 45 to 48 new representatives

00:04:38.560 in the lower house of Congress and then in the Senate, two more there. And it would decidedly

00:04:47.040 tip the scales toward really radical leftist ideology in the U.S. And Trump wouldn't want

00:04:54.900 that. I mean, could you imagine they've just secured what we'd call a mega base? They've

00:05:00.720 really got a mega foundation and it would be upended by absorbing all of Canada. So I kind

00:05:06.440 of poo-poo that idea. And they must be aware of that, right? They must be. But we also see that

00:05:13.340 there seems to be a special relationship between Daniel Smith and also President Trump. I mean,

00:05:19.660 she went down to Mar-a-Lago and she was chatting with him. We don't know what was actually said,

00:05:24.620 but she's holding her cards very close to the chest. She's not saying anything about

00:05:30.980 going alone or anything like that. But I make that suggestion in my piece. I say, you know,

00:05:37.040 from a strategic point of view, Trump might want to consider making an overture to the province

00:05:46.260 of Alberta. And I look at it like this. First of all, they already do a lot of trading in terms of

00:05:53.760 natural gas and oil, right? Like 80% of Alberta's natural gas and oil goes to the US anyway.

00:05:59.740 if Alberta were able to be that 51st state as opposed to all Canada, there'd be some significant

00:06:09.000 benefits economically there. There'd be no trade barriers there. In addition, people in Alberta,

00:06:17.140 I mean, even 60, 65% are really solidly conservative. So again, that would benefit

00:06:25.440 President Trump. He's going to get people in who are already aligned with him ideologically.

00:06:31.400 From the point of view of people in Alberta, we know that they're dissatisfied

00:06:34.900 with the arrangement as it applies to equalization payments, for example. I mean,

00:06:41.800 almost to the tune of a couple billion every year. And most of that goes to provinces. Well,

00:06:47.700 most of it goes to Quebec, who doesn't even want pipelines, right? It must be so frustrating for

00:06:53.580 people in Alberta to see the money that is raised from their natural resources primarily

00:07:00.140 go to a province that is trying to ruin them financially. So, I mean, we know that within

00:07:09.180 the province already, there's a real separatist center.

00:07:18.700 Whoops. Did we lose you there, David? You're frozen on my end. Maybe it's me though.

00:07:23.580 But we will try our best, folks, to get David back on.

00:07:28.360 You know, what he was talking about kind of reminds me a little bit of what Jordan Peterson said.

00:07:33.100 Jordan Peterson had a recent piece in the National Post where he basically just says, look, Canada has to offer a better deal to Alberta than what Donald Trump is offering.

00:07:45.920 because Donald Trump, you know, love him or hate him, he is making an offer to the Canadians that

00:07:53.360 does appeal to many Canadians. Not all of them, not even a majority. Like I said, it depends on

00:08:00.300 what poll you're looking at, anywhere between 10% to 15% of the country. But it is interesting

00:08:06.340 to even just think about like the demographics of the people. I watched a rebel video yesterday

00:08:11.540 where the journalist was walking around Calgary

00:08:14.040 asking people what they thought about it.

00:08:16.420 And downtown Calgary, I think he was on Stevens Avenue.

00:08:18.800 It seemed like almost everyone he was talking to

00:08:20.840 was for the idea.

00:08:22.960 Interesting, I was talking to some family friends

00:08:25.800 in the GTA, talking to people

00:08:27.980 who are first-generation Canadians, immigrants.

00:08:31.000 And they basically said everyone in their social circle

00:08:33.500 likes the idea.

00:08:35.040 They think, why not?

00:08:36.260 Why not join the Americans?

00:08:37.780 They are a more prosperous country,

00:08:39.860 richer country, lower taxes.

00:08:41.540 If you take patriotism and love of country out of the equation and you just look at it in terms of what's the best for like my finances and my family, it's hard to argue that Canada might not be better off with this offer.

00:08:56.360 And particularly Alberta, because as David was saying there, they haven't been treated very fairly, very nicely in this confederation, in our Canadian union.

00:09:08.340 The idea that they get taxed and the equalization system means that money from Alberta, excess money, gets sent to other parts of the country, poor parts of the country, places like Quebec and the Maritimes, where they don't have the same attitude towards resource development, towards pro-capitalism.

00:09:24.980 They lean more towards big government and socialism.

00:09:27.740 So they get to waste the money and spend them on big projects and big government.

00:09:31.980 And Alberta is the one paying the bill.

00:09:33.520 So it's such an interesting topic of conversation.

00:09:37.660 And we're still working to see if we can get David back on the line.

00:09:42.260 But I want to talk a little bit about, you know, just when it comes to Canada-U.S. relations.

00:09:51.900 At a, the ambassador, the Canadian ambassador said that Canada's making progress.

00:09:59.160 So in an interview with CBC's Power in Politics, the Canadian ambassador to the U.S., woman named Kristen Hillman,

00:10:05.720 said that the president, U.S. president, is pleased with Canada's progress,

00:10:10.700 pleased with the things that Justin Trudeau has done to try to protect the border,

00:10:14.540 to try to crack down on fentanyl, maybe appointing that fentanyl czar

00:10:17.720 was a step in the right direction.

00:10:19.060 So here is a clip from Wednesday.

00:10:21.660 The president was pleased with the announcements we made,

00:10:26.780 but not only the announcements, the progress that we are making

00:10:29.580 in the fight against fentanyl, in the fight against irregular migration,

00:10:33.780 illegal migration. For example, illegal migration from Canada to the United States is down 90%

00:10:39.460 in recent months. And we have taken important measures with respect to the fight against

00:10:44.840 fentanyl. And that's not all she said. She also added that everybody that she is talking to in

00:10:51.560 Washington believes that Trump's March 4th deadline for the 25% tariffs on Canada is tied

00:10:58.600 to this effort. And so she believes that they are taking steps in the right direction. Maybe we will

00:11:03.140 avoid a trade war after all those play that clip.

00:11:06.140 Everybody that we are talking to are saying that the March 4th deadline

00:11:10.520 is tied to continued efforts on our part and together with them

00:11:15.760 to fight in particular the scourge of fentanyl.

00:11:18.920 So are you getting signals then that we might get it reprieved

00:11:21.760 because we've had some success already at the border with fentanyl?

00:11:25.700 So I'm getting signals that the work that we are doing

00:11:29.160 and the results that we are achieving is well received.

00:11:33.140 So on the one hand, we have the Trudeau administration, Trudeau government officials,

00:11:38.620 including the ambassador there, saying we're taking efforts, we're working with the Trump

00:11:42.520 administration, they're happy with our progress, we're doing the things that they want on the way

00:11:47.220 to hopefully avoiding a trade war. But then on the other hand, the Trudeau liberals, they just

00:11:52.320 can't resist, right? They can't help but trying to demonize Donald Trump, trying to undermine him,

00:11:57.360 using him as a political wedge in Canada. Because in Canada, we all know Trump isn't very popular,

00:12:01.900 especially in the centre, centrist Canadians, normal Canadians, don't really like his style,

00:12:06.680 don't like Trump. And so it's a perfect wedge issue for the Liberals. All they have to do

00:12:10.980 is compare Conservatives in Canada to Trump, and it'll sufficiently scare centrist voters enough

00:12:16.280 to want to abandon the Conservatives. So, you know, despite all the progress that they're

00:12:20.340 supposedly making in negotiating, the Liberals released an attack ad framing Pierre Politev

00:12:27.780 in negative light and comparing him to Donald Trump. Let's play that clip.

00:12:31.900 everything is broken everything is broken

00:12:37.780 fake news fake news the left-wing censorship regime their woke censorship ideology defeating

00:12:46.500 the radical left radical leftist authoritarian we want those great canadian truckers to know that

00:12:52.760 we are with them all the way i'm proud of the truckers and i stand with them have turned our

00:12:57.580 once great cities into cesspools of bloodshed and crime unleashed a crime wave like we have never

00:13:03.860 seen so they can't help it they want to demonize trump even at a moment when they're trying to

00:13:15.260 negotiate with him this is a problem in canada right it's like the there's so much of an incentive

00:13:20.200 for the liberals to have a trade war the more that we're involved in a trade war the more that

00:13:24.720 they're telling the sort of center and normal Canadians to wrap themselves in the flag,

00:13:28.660 be proud of Canadian, buy Canadian. Anti-Americanism is on the rise. That sentiment is actually good 0.97

00:13:33.380 politically for the liberals. So it seems like they would almost rather sacrifice the country

00:13:38.240 and have a trade war rather than have mutual prosperity for all, but have a potential

00:13:44.340 conservative government back. I think we have David Haskell back on the line. And if we do,

00:13:50.380 can continue that conversation uh david are you with us can you hear me yes i can fantastic we

00:13:57.580 had to go by phone i think that uh we've just seen candace that um somebody doesn't want this 1.00

00:14:03.740 conversation to happen i think that uh it's it could be uh trudeau trying to tamper with some

00:14:09.900 of this stuff uh i wouldn't have pardon i said i wouldn't put it past them uh we know that they love

00:14:17.580 censorship and actually i covered this on the show yesterday uh watching the sort of censorship

00:14:21.980 regime that's happening in europe right the way that they crack down on i mean there's a 60 minutes

00:14:27.100 piece highlighting this idea that there's a police force in germany that goes and raids your house

00:14:33.100 and takes away your laptop and your phone if you post things that they deem to be insulting racist

00:14:37.740 online it seemed like uh maybe a possible preview i'm sure that justin trudeau and his liberals

00:14:42.780 would love to have powers like that. But let's go back to your piece, David, because when you're

00:14:50.940 off the line, I said, you know, Jordan Peterson had a piece in the National Post saying that

00:14:56.160 Canada has to offer something better for Alberta, because what Trump is offering could be appealing

00:15:01.160 to a lot of Albertans. And maybe it's time that Canada realizes that wakes up and says,

00:15:06.480 wow, we're really taking advantage of a certain part of the country. What did you think of that?

00:15:10.520 Yeah, well, I was in agreement with Jordan on that. One of the things that hasn't come up,

00:15:17.060 and this is very Machiavellian, but I mean, all politics is Machiavellian. One of the things that

00:15:22.120 I've wondered about is, why would the people surrounding Daniel Smith not say,

00:15:29.760 shouldn't we at least pretend that we're interested in this offer from Trump? Or shouldn't

00:15:36.660 we do a little bit of back channel to see what might be out there? And the reason I say that is

00:15:41.400 we know from history since the 1960s, the province of Quebec, the government of Quebec,

00:15:48.160 has been able to wrestle incredible additional rights and privileges from the Canadian Federation

00:15:55.960 simply by saber-rattling related to separation. And so I get it, and I think it's noble and

00:16:04.060 honorable that alberta has not really gone that route but you know if you've got the world

00:16:10.940 superpower on one knee holding a ring maybe you can get a pretty nice proposal from the other suitor

00:16:20.620 so i just and again this is machiavellian of course but uh all politics is and i wonder

00:16:27.340 why the alberta government hasn't at least or maybe they are maybe they are they really should

00:16:32.860 i think examine their options and i only say this listen i'm not from alberta uh i'm an ontario guy

00:16:38.940 and so i'm looking at this strictly from a political strategic point of view there are

00:16:45.180 immense benefits that could come to alberta were it to become the 51st state and and i mean even

00:16:54.780 even trump has mentioned that it'd be about a 60 reduction in taxes off the top uh they'd also

00:17:02.460 not have to do equalization payments in the united states the way that the the states

00:17:09.100 divvy things up it's a much smaller pot there is a sort of a collective pot that comes from

00:17:16.220 state to state that they try to uh equal out the disadvantages in other states that are

00:17:21.580 more poor like um alabama missouri but it's nothing nothing like we have in the equalization

00:17:28.700 payments and those equalization payments really there's no motivation we've we've haven't heard

00:17:35.420 any kind of motivation from any of the party leaders at the top well whether it's polyev

00:17:41.260 or trudeau to ever adjust these things so it seems like same old same old for people in alberta so

00:17:47.500 again uh there are some things that uh i'm interested in are they happening in in terms

00:17:52.780 of back channel with alberta certainly there are avenues to explore there we were talking earlier

00:17:59.740 i said that all canada probably it'd be a bad idea for trump to absorb all canada in my piece

00:18:07.580 invite conservatives to become americans that that appears in the american conservative magazine

00:18:13.900 the second thing i talked about was alberta maybe we want to talk about that third option

00:18:18.380 that I also mentioned in the piece.

00:18:21.060 We haven't gone there yet, if that's all right with you, Candace.

00:18:23.900 Well, before we do, I want to just raise this concern

00:18:27.320 because I think when Donald Trump first mentioned the 51st state,

00:18:30.800 I'm thoroughly convinced it was a joke.

00:18:33.140 He was talking about how Wayne Gretzky should be the governor

00:18:35.580 and basically kind of trying to troll our prime minister.

00:18:39.400 You could tell that they have a tense relationship, let's put it that way.

00:18:44.360 And then it seemed like the more that he said it out loud

00:18:47.700 and the more reaction he got, he kind of lead into it.

00:18:50.480 Like, I don't know that he's literal.

00:18:51.880 I don't know that he is.

00:18:53.100 I think that he's serious about having a better deal.

00:18:55.800 He doesn't understand why Canada doesn't have a proper military,

00:18:59.140 why, you know, there's so much protection that happens

00:19:02.640 from the American perspective.

00:19:03.680 For me, it makes sense because, you know,

00:19:05.860 why would we rebuild our own military when they have one right there?

00:19:09.060 We should probably work more closely with them.

00:19:11.520 We should follow their guidance in terms of securing our border

00:19:15.020 and fixing our broken immigration system and cracking down.

00:19:17.200 But I didn't think that he was literal because of some of the questions that you raise.

00:19:22.340 Like, I don't think that any right-minded Republican president would want to invite 40 million potentially left-wing Democrats into the country.

00:19:31.360 I don't think that they would want to have two more Democratic senators, which Canada would pretty much always have.

00:19:36.620 And so, you know, when you get into the kind of like real nitty gritty of it, a political union, it doesn't make sense for the Americans.

00:19:42.740 I think that Canadians are too, you know, well, our entire country was built on the idea that we're not Americans, that we wanted to stop, you know, we wanted to remain loyal to the crown and not participate in the revolution.

00:19:55.520 So it seems like, you know, it seems like a hard fit to make this a political union.

00:20:00.340 And so I think the pieces, the issues that you raise in your piece are correct.

00:20:05.120 But then that leads to the question for you, David, do you think Trump is literal?

00:20:08.780 Do you think that he literally wants to absorb Canada, invade or, you know, create this union in a literal way?

00:20:16.360 No, no, no. And you've hit all the main points that I would raise, Candace.

00:20:19.960 Definitely, he did start out and he was trolling. He was joking around.

00:20:24.540 But I think that it caught some wind in that sale.

00:20:30.100 And he thought, wait a minute, there's some there's some.

00:20:34.600 okay he said i don't want to buy the farm but i wouldn't mind rustling a few of the cattle

00:20:39.520 and in his art of the deal i mean this is a guy who who wrote a book all about negotiation

00:20:45.880 and he he basically says say crazy things at the start and see it's sort of like shake the

00:20:54.240 tree and see which apples drop and so he was probably looking for the reaction he's gotten

00:20:59.900 some reaction. And that's his negotiation strategy. And we did see him move back a little

00:21:06.760 bit when he instituted the tariffs in February. And then he said, well, you know, I've seen some

00:21:12.040 action on your border that you're trying to secure your border. You're trying to take care of the

00:21:17.000 fentanyl problem. And so he said, let's move that deadline. So we know that he is looking for some

00:21:23.340 very specific things as well but to your point yeah he is he's testing the waters he's putting

00:21:31.140 something up the flagpole see who salutes he's he's really he i don't think he had a great game

00:21:37.600 plan but then we look at his speech that he gave in january his inauguration speech he made a point

00:21:45.680 of saying, we are going to expand as a nation. Now, would that have been in there if there hadn't

00:21:53.900 been some kind of buzz happening around his 51st state comments, behind, around his Panama comments,

00:22:03.880 around his Greenland comments? And he was getting some positive feedback on Greenland. Politically

00:22:11.100 in the U.S., his comments about Panama were well-received. In Canada, we didn't receive his

00:22:17.120 idea of the 51st state generally as well, but there were probably people around him saying,

00:22:22.400 you know, see what happens, see what apples fall. But all this is to say that in his inauguration

00:22:30.100 address, he actually makes a point of saying, we are an expanding nation again. So that to me

00:22:39.680 signals something. Yeah, I tend to agree. I think that, well, I think it's pretty obvious that

00:22:46.720 Justin Trudeau has done tremendous damage to our country and not just our country, like our society,

00:22:51.380 our culture. It feels fractured. It doesn't feel like we're bound by unity or a shared sense of

00:22:57.380 belief in our country. You know, everything from the economics to the immigration to national

00:23:03.780 unity. Like, I don't think that, you know, there's a flaring Quebec separatist movement in the Alberta

00:23:08.600 or Western separatist movement

00:23:10.420 has just gotten stronger over the last 10 years.

00:23:12.840 Like our country's broken.

00:23:13.680 We can't build a pipeline.

00:23:14.880 We can't build infrastructure projects.

00:23:17.380 Trudeau on his way out the door

00:23:18.320 is promising a multi-billion dollar train,

00:23:21.100 which I predict will never get built.

00:23:23.980 But now would be the time,

00:23:27.260 from the outside anyway.

00:23:29.540 It seems like America is pretty united

00:23:31.780 around Donald Trump.

00:23:32.680 They're pretty excited.

00:23:33.480 He's promising a golden age.

00:23:34.780 And even people in tech in the Silicon Valley

00:23:38.260 who are notoriously left-wing and democrat you know even a fraction of those people are excited

00:23:43.460 you see people across the country kind of leaning into their excitement over this fresh start that

00:23:49.060 they're having in the united states um and then meanwhile in canada we have this like sad broken

00:23:53.860 system where we're about to have a prime minister basically installed from the world economic forum

00:23:59.460 um to be like trustee here and uh you know now would be the time um and and i do think that

00:24:06.980 outside of the political whoops outside of the political bubble of like everyone in all the

00:24:12.820 parties kind of agrees that you have to double down on canada canada canada um if you talk to

00:24:17.940 like normal people and and i mentioned this um you know people who are hyper political i think the

00:24:24.420 idea of joining the us might actually seem appealing because they are you know lower taxes

00:24:30.180 for your economy more choice more you know options in terms of where to live and you know

00:24:36.660 everything from like cell phone companies to airlines like there's just a lot more choice

00:24:41.060 in the united states so it's like what are we holding on to um and and particularly i worry

00:24:46.020 about new canadians people who have you know first generation who who haven't grown up being canadian

00:24:50.660 or don't have a canadian bloodline um that they that they have even less of an attachment to this

00:24:55.140 country right well you you've mentioned something that's i think pretty important uh and and it's

00:25:01.540 the reasons what are the reasons that uh someone would favor canada you know what is it that

00:25:11.380 we talk uh paulia has been talking about canada being broken so i think that that there's something

00:25:17.540 in that that canada is broken but there's a a part of it that can't be fixed and i think that

00:25:22.820 there are people normal people you call them normal people who are looking at the things that

00:25:28.020 can't be fixed in canada and then they're saying maybe given that it can't be fixed maybe we do

00:25:34.820 have to look at this other option and so the thing that can't be fixed is our constitution

00:25:40.820 and i mentioned this in my piece i say that uh people particularly those what we'll call

00:25:47.300 the hardcore conservatives who have been in the freedom movement so those people are the people

00:25:52.660 who were objecting to the COVID mandates. These are the people who are appearing before their

00:25:58.720 school boards and are talking about radical gender ideology. These are the people who are

00:26:04.540 doing public protests related to any number of radical leftist ideologies. So they've got skin

00:26:12.100 in the game, right? We'll call them the freedom movement. Well, those people have noticed that

00:26:16.720 our constitution doesn't support them. Our constitution is broken. So our constitution,

00:26:21.500 Part one of our Constitution is our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. A lot of people don't

00:26:26.260 understand that our Constitution is two parts. It was adapted or adopted in 1982. And the first part

00:26:33.140 is the Charter. And the Charter says what your rights are supposed to be and how they're supposed

00:26:38.620 to be given to you. Well, our Charter is rigged. I say rigged, meaning it is against freedom.

00:26:48.080 uh it is for identity politics and is actually against the promotion of western culture and it's

00:26:56.900 and it's written right into it and and if you are someone in the freedom movement if you are a true

00:27:03.140 conservative who has skin in the game and you've been speaking out against these things you've seen

00:27:08.020 that you've seen that the very rules of the game the things that actually uh the the rule book the

00:27:15.600 guidebook for our country is written in such a way that you cannot win. And I'll get very specific

00:27:22.300 about this. So section one of our charter says, well, section two, first of all, section two gives

00:27:29.240 you the rights. It says you have the right to freedom of religion. You have the right to assembly,

00:27:34.120 the right to freedom of expression. That all sounds really good. But section one of our charter

00:27:41.380 says that every one of those rights can be taken away if it's justified in a free and democratic

00:27:48.940 society. And you think, okay, well, as long as it's justified in a free and democratic society,

00:27:57.860 well, what we've seen is that most of our judges have been appointed by the liberals.

00:28:04.580 And those liberal judges have suggested that what's justified, it sure looks more like it

00:28:11.000 would be justified in a communist country than a democratic country. And I can give you some

00:28:16.620 examples. We could look at, during the COVID mandates, big box stores, Walmart was allowed

00:28:23.600 to be open. Home Depot was allowed to be opened. But conservative Christian churches who wanted

00:28:29.500 to stay open, when they went to court, they were told, sorry, your right to freedom of assembly,

00:28:35.940 your right to freedom of religion, it has no standing. Because we judges are saying that in 0.99

00:28:42.180 a free and democratic society, the quashing of your rights is justified. We could go a little

00:28:47.300 bit in the past. We could look at the decision for the Trinity Western Law School. So Trinity

00:28:51.720 Western University is a Christian university. They wanted to launch a law school. But the law

00:28:58.340 societies of British Columbia and Ontario said, no, that law school will actually make people

00:29:05.480 unsafe. It will make society unsafe because it's going to insist upon Christian values. They made 1.00

00:29:11.480 that argument. It went to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court said, we agree with the law societies.

00:29:18.600 And therefore, the Christians, the conservative Christians at Trinity Western were told,

00:29:23.460 you can't have a law school. If we go back to really the beginning of when the charter was used

00:29:29.920 in order to suppress the rights of conservatives, we could look at a case of a Christian printer 0.80

00:29:35.220 in Toronto, Scott Brockie, who wanted to, sorry, he wanted to refuse a client. He said,

00:29:43.920 my Christian values do not allow me to print what you want me to print. He even said, you can go

00:29:49.180 somewhere else. Well, the client took him to court and the court said, sorry, you don't have the

00:29:56.840 right to your Christian values in your business. And they based it on section five, sorry, section

00:30:03.680 one of the charter that said, we can pull any of these rights that are shown in section two,

00:30:10.260 as long as we can justify it in a free and democratic society. So for someone who is a

00:30:16.600 true conservative, someone with skin in the game, and they're in Canada, they'll look across the

00:30:21.480 border to the United States where their bill of rights talks about inalienable rights. Their

00:30:27.000 constitution talks about inalienable rights. And we've seen in case after case, they're actually

00:30:31.480 upheld right well it's interesting david because i think there's an argument a long argument

00:30:37.560 um on the conservative side of spectrum of like who has the better system and i think many people

00:30:43.000 even even conservative canadians at one point argued that canada has i mean canada the reason

00:30:48.680 that we didn't join the american revolution is because we were too conservative we we didn't

00:30:52.360 want that kind of change we believed in you know steady stable power and governance and you know

00:30:59.080 the idea of a monarchy you know we would never design this kind of government from scratch but

00:31:03.880 we have it and it seems to work in in some way uh i i don't hear conservatives making that argument

00:31:09.560 i i think you're right that post covid post some of these decisions that have happened it's

00:31:13.000 impossible to argue that our system upholds freedom um better than the american i think

00:31:17.640 american system is full of flaws as well but just to bring it back to the piece that you wrote

00:31:22.920 um i wonder you know if if donald trump were to read this piece and say yeah that's a great idea

00:31:27.160 Why don't we just invite all of the conservatives or all of the Albertans to join America?

00:31:33.380 What would be left in Canada?

00:31:34.920 I mean, I think that it would be a pretty scary place to live if we kind of, you know, the people who were committed to freedom,

00:31:40.980 the people who were the small business owners and the people with Christian values and family values got up and left.

00:31:47.760 I would be kind of terrified as to what would be left and what would happen to this country.

00:31:53.280 I think that you wouldn't see everybody leave.

00:31:56.340 um and what you're describing is an atlas shrug movement uh atlas shrug moment right um when we

00:32:03.000 read the book by rand about uh who is john galt and there's this movement where all the people

00:32:09.220 who are really in this case the libertarians leave society society basically crumbles and i

00:32:14.800 think you might have something there but of course many of these people who are what i'd call the

00:32:18.940 true conservatives they'd stay because they're natural born fighters they've been fighting from

00:32:23.360 the beginning they've got skin in the game they're not going to leave but let's say if some of them

00:32:27.600 did and the best estimate for the freedom movement of people with skin in the game probably a good

00:32:34.240 proxy for that is how many people refuse to get vaccinated how many people refuse to get uh wear

00:32:40.960 masks how many people stood up publicly it's probably about 10 of the population so you're

00:32:46.720 probably talking about four million people and that's a about the size of oklahoma so you know

00:32:53.840 not a not a shabby number of people could the united states absorb that very comfortably very

00:33:00.400 comfortably and and in my piece i suggest to the trump administration if they'll ever read this

00:33:06.480 piece that what they could do is actually create almost like a refugee visa so they've done it for 0.70

00:33:14.640 other countries where there's a persecuted class? Well, you could make the case, you could definitely 1.00

00:33:20.900 make the case that in Canada, those people who are part of the freedom movement, those people who are

00:33:25.660 truly public in their conservative values are a persecuted minority. I mean, from job loss

00:33:33.000 to court cases, to any number of public trials that they have to endure,

00:33:39.880 there is an argument to be made there. And if Trump were to say, okay, let's bring those people

00:33:46.460 in, definitely, that is a form of expansionism. Now, he was talking about geographic expansion,

00:33:54.160 but what about demographic expansion? You bring in those people who are already very much aligned

00:34:02.240 with what we'd say is the conservative movement in the U.S., the hardcore conservative movement

00:34:07.380 in the U.S. That could be a real benefit. Certainly the people in Canada who would be

00:34:12.680 willing to take that up, they'd benefit as well from lower taxes and from being in a place where

00:34:19.200 you're not the odd duck anymore. And by that, even conservatives who are sort of party adherents,

00:34:29.460 they adhere to a party with conservative in their name. If they're a true conservative,

00:34:33.460 they don't fit in. I mean, the elites in their party actually disparage them.

00:34:40.520 They're embarrassed by them. And they certainly don't speak out on the issues that are close to

00:34:45.980 them. And by that, I mean, look at our conservative leaders. Our most populous province is Ontario.

00:34:52.100 Doug Ford is the, ostensibly, the head of the conservatives in Ontario. And he doesn't talk

00:34:59.520 about cultural issues at all. In fact, he abets what we would see as the most radical of leftist

00:35:06.540 policies in our education system. So we've got that. We've got Paulyev, who I understand. Listen,

00:35:13.660 strategically, from a strategic point of view, if you're in the lead, you say less. Winning,

00:35:18.720 say less. I get it. But man, doesn't he realize that the way that you open that Overton window,

00:35:26.560 The way that you make things permissible for discussion is by discussing them a

00:35:32.540 Leader leads at some point you actually have to say the things and I talked to

00:35:37.940 Friends of mine who are deeply embedded in the federal conservatives and they say oh, yeah

00:35:43.800 Oh, yeah, you should hear what he whispers about and I'm just tired of the whispering. I

00:35:49.800 I think that

00:35:51.740 The reason that in Canada, we have so little support for conservative ideas is because our conservative leaders won't talk about them.

00:36:01.900 And so we find ourselves in this catch-22.

00:36:05.880 You actually have to begin talking about things.

00:36:08.520 Things that are relegated to the private sphere will die in the public sphere.

00:36:14.160 You're right.

00:36:14.880 You know, I listened to Pierre Polyev's Canada First rally on Saturday night, and we actually did a deep dive on the show yesterday with Barbara Kay.

00:36:24.000 Barbara Kay really liked the speech, and she walked us through it from her perspective.

00:36:28.120 And I agree.

00:36:29.140 I think that if you look at it deeply, you can see a lot of things that would make conservatives happy.

00:36:34.820 But then, you know, on the surface, what you're really seeing is I can be the liberals more than the liberals.

00:36:41.620 Look, I love the flag.

00:36:42.620 I love Canada.

00:36:43.300 I'm going to defend it.

00:36:44.280 like like kind of almost copying what they're focused on right instead of instead of the

00:36:48.920 election being focused on how broken canada is from justin trudeau it's now focused on um who

00:36:55.240 who can be the better negotiator with trump who can stand up against tariffs better and it is it's

00:37:01.000 kind of like playing on their turf and it's it's unfortunate um that he does that but i think well

00:37:06.520 to be honest david that's the reason why we started juno news is the reason i started true north

00:37:10.760 because i lost faith in our politicians to lead the way i think that you know in a large part if

00:37:16.840 you look at what's happening in the united states with the resurgence of a conservative movement

00:37:21.080 it's not just donald trump right donald trump is at the front but there's an entire ecosystem

00:37:25.560 everything from you know charlie kirk turning point getting young gen z uh conservatives out

00:37:32.200 in numbers you know the daily wire a huge successful media company tucker carlson megan

00:37:36.600 Kelly all of these voices out there pushing the message like it can't we can't we can't just rely

00:37:41.220 on a political leader to do it because at the end of the day they're going to do what they need to

00:37:44.920 do to get elected um we need kind of all hands on deck and as many people and voices as we can so

00:37:50.600 um with that I'm going to thank you for uh joining us and hopefully we'll have you uh on the show

00:37:55.360 back because it's great to have a conversation with you yeah it was great to be with you Candace

00:37:59.500 and apologies for I don't I have no idea what happened technically here but uh I'm grateful

00:38:05.040 that I was able to get back and I've enjoyed our conversation okay all right we'll have you back

00:38:09.120 again soon thank you so much that's David Haskell a professor and wow uh go check out his piece in

00:38:14.600 the American conservative because uh you know sometimes I wonder if there's any uh conservative

00:38:20.360 thinkers uh Christian people left in Canadian academic halls and so it's refreshing and nice

00:38:25.580 to find some and and hear and know that they're you know part of the people that are um influencing

00:38:31.320 the younger generation. Okay, folks, I want to get to this announcement yesterday, because this

00:38:37.660 is just so typical of liberals. They love announcing gigantic, aspirational, big goals

00:38:45.160 that, you know, usually they just don't get anywhere. But Justin Trudeau, on his way out

00:38:49.620 the door, you know, we're counting down the days until he will finally leave, finally leave us

00:38:55.320 alone. I mean, I don't know that the next thing we're going to get after Justin Trudeau is any

00:38:59.620 better. It looks like Mark Carney is going to be installed and probably go down the same path. But

00:39:03.700 yesterday in Montreal, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces a six-year $3.9 billion plan

00:39:10.300 officially named Alto to build a high-speed rail line connecting Quebec City to Toronto. So here

00:39:18.080 is what that looked like. Today I'm announcing the launch of Alto, the largest infrastructure

00:39:24.300 project in Canadian history. A high-speed rail network between Quebec City and Toronto

00:39:30.300 with stops in Trois-Hijères, Laval, Montreal, Ottawa, and Peterborough. It'll span a thousand

00:39:37.500 kilometers with 100% electric trains that will reach speeds of 300 kilometers an hour.

00:39:44.940 Sorry, in what world do you announce that you're resigning and then like two days before you leave

00:39:49.760 you announced the largest infrastructure program in Canadian history. What gives you the power to

00:39:56.440 do that? I get that you're Prime Minister. You're on your way out. Nobody wants you. You were

00:40:00.200 absolutely at the bottom of the polls, the lowest you've ever been. I think you had 16%

00:40:04.500 of Canadians willing to stand behind you. And here you are announcing a huge project. These

00:40:10.620 are the kind of things you announced at the beginning of your tenure so that you can get

00:40:13.320 them done. Justin Trudeau, so typical, announces it at the very end. So here he is saying that

00:40:17.700 Alto will be a pan-Canadian endeavor that will supercharge the entire economy.

00:40:22.320 Don't you love their opinion of pan-Canadian?

00:40:24.720 Pan-Canadian, from Justin Trudeau's perspective, is Quebec City all the way west to Toronto.

00:40:31.400 So sorry, rest of Canada.

00:40:32.920 Canada ends at Toronto.

00:40:34.420 Here's Justin Trudeau saying that.

00:40:36.720 Alto will be a truly pan-Canadian endeavor using expertise and resources from coast to coast to coast.

00:40:44.800 It will turbocharge our entire economy, create tens of thousands of good-paying jobs, and open new opportunities for Canadian businesses at every link of our supply chain.

00:40:57.460 Again, pan-Canadian all the way from Toronto to Quebec City.

00:41:01.500 So here is what the train would look like.

00:41:04.100 Here's a map.

00:41:05.020 It would go from Toronto to Peterborough to Ottawa to Montreal to Lavois, Trois-Maviers, and finish in Quebec City.

00:41:11.180 So this is pan-Canadian folks from Justin Trudeau's perspective.

00:41:15.280 That's the whole country.

00:41:17.120 I want to play this clip because this is so telling.

00:41:20.860 So I'm going to play a clip of a Q&A that Justin Trudeau faced at the end of this announcement.

00:41:25.420 You can hear a French reporter, I believe with Radio Canada, CBC French, asking Prime

00:41:30.080 Minister Justin Trudeau how he will ensure that future governments won't just cancel

00:41:35.200 this, right?

00:41:35.680 Because the idea is like he's literally on his way out the door.

00:41:38.720 his time as Prime Minister is over so he can announce this all he wants, it's really up to

00:41:42.940 the next person whether or not they actually want to spend this money. Hello, we're bankrupt. We

00:41:46.960 don't have any money. We are completely over budget. Everyone who is running to replace

00:41:50.640 Justin Trudeau is talking about cutting the government, cutting the budget. Even Mark Carney

00:41:54.560 is out there at least saying that he's going to try to balance the budget. You have to cut to do

00:41:59.100 that because Justin Trudeau has basically doubled Canada's spending. So where are you going to get

00:42:03.020 this money? Those aren't the questions that the mainstream media is asking. The mainstream media

00:42:06.700 is asking oh prime minister Justin Trudeau how will you use the system to make sure that your

00:42:13.340 plan remains in power even though you will no longer be prime minister let's play that clip

00:42:20.140 do we have that clip Sean will there be any guarantees to make sure that if there's a

00:42:25.660 successor well you will have a successor if there's a next government let's say the conservatives

00:42:30.780 won't be able or it won't be easy for them to to stop the project

00:42:36.380 listen this is this high-speed rail in this country

00:42:40.140 was always going to be a project that would

00:42:44.060 would be take long enough to build that it would cover multiple governments

00:42:50.620 at all different orders of government from municipal

00:42:53.580 to provincial to federal and it takes a will and a determination by a

00:42:58.380 government to move forward and lock in this progress yeah so that's called a dictatorship

00:43:05.020 folks so the the the journalist is teeing it up saying how will you guarantee that this happens

00:43:09.680 justin trudeau says they're going to put contracts in place make sure things are signed so that a

00:43:14.020 future government can't get out of it yeah that's not how it's supposed to work a future government

00:43:19.180 has authority to stop spending money on wasteful projects if they see fit justin trudeau doing

00:43:26.140 everything they can you know this reminds me of the high speed high speed rail project in

00:43:31.480 california because this is what i predict will happen i mean it's already happened folks look

00:43:35.140 uh it's been like 20 years since they promised to build a cross town lrt train line in toronto

00:43:41.760 the eglinton line that thing has been under construction for over a decade it's nowhere

00:43:46.660 near being complete they can't even build a train an lrt across toronto and yet we're supposed to

00:43:52.180 believe that they're going to build one all the way up to Quebec City. So in California,

00:43:56.500 it's the exact same thing that's happening. So back in 2008, California announced and agreed

00:44:01.860 there was the voters approved to a measure that would put $10 billion towards a high-speed rail

00:44:08.020 project. It was supposed to go from Los Angeles to San Francisco. It was supposed to be complete

00:44:13.500 by 2020. The estimated price tag was about $28 billion up to $35 billion. So just keep in mind,

00:44:19.800 Justin Trudeau says that his plan to build a thousand kilometers of track will cost us four

00:44:25.660 billion. Even back in 2008, California, you know, their train line is only 350 miles. They said it

00:44:31.420 would cost about 35 billion, so 10x more than what Justin Trudeau says. And here we are in 2025,

00:44:37.860 five years after the California train was supposed to be completed, and it's nowhere close to being

00:44:42.780 completed. It's nowhere close to being completed. They basically abandoned the idea of doing it,

00:44:46.420 and they've already spent listen to this 128 billion dollars in california and they don't

00:44:52.340 have the train line they don't have a train line uh here's a little explainer clip talking about

00:44:56.180 what's happened in california november 4th 2008 the people of california voted to fund this

00:45:03.940 a high-speed rail line many countries around the world have had high-speed trains for decades

00:45:09.060 and this would be the u.s's attempt to finally catch up the train would whisk passengers from

00:45:14.260 la to san francisco in under three hours and it was all set to open in 2020. today it's 2022 and

00:45:21.940 california's high-speed rail project is famous for being a disaster will be the most expensive

00:45:27.540 project in state history a train that's going to nowhere going to nowhere all that's there today

00:45:31.780 is this one section still under construction from bakersfield to merced so rather than connecting

00:45:38.500 two major cities it just connects two small towns along the way they've spent 128 billion dollars

00:45:43.460 and now even Democrats, even Gavin Newsom is suggesting that he's going to abandon

00:45:47.380 this absolute train wreck, pardon the pun, of a project. And here we have Justin Trudeau just

00:45:52.180 doing the exact same thing out the door. It's so typical of liberals. They love these big projects.

00:45:58.260 They have no idea how to fund them. They have no idea how to carry them out.

00:46:01.140 All they really care about is that the contracts go to their friends and that they get some kind

00:46:05.860 of legacy. No, Justin Trudeau, Canadians don't want this. We need to just completely ignore this

00:46:12.500 because I don't think it will ever happen. Okay, folks, I'm going to move on. I want to talk about

00:46:17.040 the story that we broke over at Juno News. This is our friends at True North, Alex Sultan, who was

00:46:21.960 a guest on the program on Monday. He broke the story that suspects in Canada's largest gold

00:46:26.620 heist are believed to be living freely in India and Dubai. So nearly two years after a $20 million

00:46:33.800 gold heist was pulled off at Toronto Pearson's airport, the suspects still remain at large.

00:46:41.440 So recently, CBC's Fifth Estate attempted to track down some of the people who were involved and basically found that they have warrants out for their arrest, but they're not in Canada anymore.

00:46:52.220 They're living in Dubai. Other suspects remain in Canada but on bail with no trial dates.

00:46:58.120 There's one person that they caught, and they are in the U.S., in U.S. custody, facing charges.

00:47:05.000 There is a total of nine suspects. We have a picture of them here.

00:47:08.960 these are the suspects who were charged in the spring of 2024. So you basically have a bunch

00:47:15.960 of people who look like they're from the Middle East and India, not sure if any of them are

00:47:20.320 Canadian citizens or not, but it turns out that a lot of them are just living large and living 0.71

00:47:26.300 their lives in other parts of the world. You know, Canada, when it comes to our jail system,

00:47:35.800 or police system. It's a total joke. It's a total joke, a revolving door system. This is one thing

00:47:40.280 that I hope Pierre Polyev is serious about if he becomes prime minister, cracking down, issuing

00:47:45.440 mandatory minimums, putting people in prison who are repeat offenders, and deporting people who

00:47:51.300 commit crimes who are not Canadians. Okay, folks, I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you so much 1.00

00:47:55.800 for joining us. We have a very exciting special show for you tomorrow. I'm looking forward to

00:48:01.120 that. And we'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. Thank you so much. I'm Candace Malcolm.

00:48:05.000 And this is The Candace Malcolm Show.

00:48:06.360 Thank you and God bless.

Juno News - February 20, 2025

Trudeau’s last SCANDAL on his way out the door

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