Juno News - Trudeau’s narrative on the use of the Emergencies Act continues to crumble

00:00:00.000 The Trudeau government's narrative about its decision to invoke the Emergencies Act

00:00:03.940 continues to crumble, and poly of derangement syndrome reaches a new level in the legacy

00:00:08.760 media.

00:00:09.220 It's Fake News Friday.

00:00:09.920 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:24.480 Hi, everyone.

00:00:25.140 Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast this week.

00:00:27.780 And as usual, I am joined by my colleague, Harrison Faulkner, producer at True North

00:00:32.700 and a journalist as well.

00:00:34.000 Harrison, welcome to the program.

00:00:35.560 Thanks for having me, Candice.

00:00:37.060 So we have a couple of announcements, some big changes, big news happening here at True

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00:01:51.640 So Harrison, we have a couple of new podcasts that we are introducing.

00:01:56.200 Folks might have seen Rupa Subramania.

00:01:58.980 She launched her own podcast.

00:02:00.480 We were incredibly overjoyed to be joined by her at the network.

00:02:04.920 She's a writer over at the National Post and a freelance journalist, and she does some great work.

00:02:08.620 She lives in Ottawa, and she covered the Trekker Convoy, I think, better than just about anybody.

00:02:13.160 So she had her first episode this week.

00:02:15.200 If you haven't tuned in already, go check that out right after you watch this show.

00:02:19.760 It was really, really great.

00:02:20.740 She talked about the World Economic Forum and sort of drilling down into what they do, what they want to do.

00:02:26.140 And same with the World Health Organization, talking about these two supposedly taboo topics that we're not supposed to talk about.

00:02:32.040 These really, you know, powerful lobby groups, essentially, that want to coordinate global policy.

00:02:38.060 So Rupa does a deep dive into that.

00:02:39.840 And then we're really pleased yesterday to release another brand new show.

00:02:44.280 This one hosted by you, Harrison.

00:02:46.160 Harrison Faulkner, Ratioed.

00:02:48.060 So why don't you tell us a little bit about your new show, Harrison?

00:02:50.800 Yeah.

00:02:51.200 So it is basically going to be a social media commentary show.

00:02:56.040 We're going to go into some of the worst takes of the week, some of the cringiest social media posts.

00:03:01.320 We're going to laugh, make fun of some of these posts.

00:03:04.440 And we're also going to provide some much-needed commentary.

00:03:06.700 I made this point on the show yesterday, Candace, that social media really is the new cultural battleground for these issues.

00:03:13.400 And I think True North recognizes that and wants to make sure that our audience can get some good coverage on what's going on on these social media feeds.

00:03:22.720 Because, I mean, there's just so much content.

00:03:24.980 As you know, when we have this show every week, we pretty much have too much content to get into.

00:03:29.720 So we're going to try and tackle that issue by creating this new show, Ratioed.

00:03:35.120 So I'm super excited to have the opportunity and really looking forward to having the show grow and be a serious part of what we offer here at True North.

00:03:43.540 Well, we're all really excited about it, Harrison.

00:03:46.720 You're part of Generation Z, or I don't know what you call yourselves, Gen Z or iGen.

00:03:51.800 And I think part of the interesting thing about your show is tapping into the sort of zeitgeist among your generation,

00:03:59.180 pointing out some of the sort of very extreme woke ideology that does exist in your age group, which is, I don't think, the norm.

00:04:05.940 I don't think that's sort of where the average moderate young Canadian is.

00:04:12.240 But sort of seeing the sort of stuff that they put out there about themselves and sort of how out of tune it is with the rest of the Canadian population.

00:04:21.680 Tell us about the title, Ratioed. What does that mean?

00:04:24.280 Well, so Ratioed is basically when a social media post gets way more comments or way more quote tweets than likes.

00:04:32.920 So it basically is the one big indicator that you miss the mark on social media if your post gets ratioed.

00:04:39.600 And I think, Candace, you raise a good point there about how this is what our generation is talking about.

00:04:44.940 We are paying attention now to what these, I mean, frankly, you could call them, there are radicals out there that are pushing very extreme political agendas on social media,

00:04:55.820 and they have no shame in putting it out there.

00:04:57.660 So we just want to try and talk about it, show people what is being said.

00:05:02.400 And I think the rise of accounts like libs of TikTok, if you've seen them on Twitter, posting these videos of these teachers talking about gender ideology,

00:05:10.080 or what else, whatever sort of radical political movement is in style, usually it gets picked up by these accounts.

00:05:19.320 And there's a real appetite for people to talk about these things and to show people just how insane things are getting in this generation.

00:05:26.160 So, like I said, I mean, I think it's what our audience wants.

00:05:29.460 It's a new opportunity for us to break into a new audience group as well, a new demographic, which I think is valuable for everyone.

00:05:36.620 And I think it's just much needed content.

00:05:38.540 Really looking forward to it.

00:05:39.380 Well, one of the things that I find really interesting is that the media has really picked up on this woke culture,

00:05:45.220 and they've sort of channeled it, and a lot of them have taken it on, you know, not just media, but big corporations, corporate Canada.

00:05:51.800 You start to see these strange phenomenons where, you know, people put their pronouns in their bios,

00:05:56.960 and, you know, all of these sort of woke critical race theory concepts creeping into corporate governance.

00:06:04.720 But at the same time, I noticed that when it comes to polling, right, young Canadians, people in their 20s, were very against the lockdowns.

00:06:13.860 They were the group most likely to support the truckers and support the sentiment behind the truckers.

00:06:20.060 And we've seen with just someone like Pierre Polyev, the huge reach that he's been able to have with this sort of younger group of Canadians.

00:06:26.680 So I wonder, Harrison, do you think the woke culture sort of represents your generation, or do you think it's a deviation and that it's unfair to categorize all sort of Gen Z Canadians as part of this woke tribe?

00:06:40.620 So I think it's definitely unfair to put us all into the extreme woke category, because I think that there's a huge rebound effect with all of this.

00:06:50.080 The more extreme you go, the more people will eventually, I guess, get off the ship and realize just what a disaster it was.

00:06:57.580 And you push people to the edges.

00:06:59.640 And I've seen polling and data that shows that the younger generation, a generation even below me, is supposed to be one of the most conservative,

00:07:07.180 because they've been forced to listen to teachers tell them insane things, or they're forced to watch things on TV that they know is just not right.

00:07:15.900 So I think that there's definitely a rebound effect, right?

00:07:19.420 If you keep pushing too far, eventually people are going to come to their senses and realize, actually, hold on, this is actually insane.

00:07:26.780 This is not at all what we want for our society and for our life.

00:07:31.720 And you were right about the trucker convoy, because, of course, young people have to get out. 0.75

00:07:37.100 They have to get jobs, and they're not going to be getting corporate cushy jobs where they can work from home necessarily.

00:07:42.360 Usually, that requires them to maybe work in retail or work at a restaurant.

00:07:47.420 And if you shut everything down, or you force people to, for example, take a vaccine to get a job, that is going to have some sort of negative backlash.

00:07:56.840 And, of course, younger people are going to take issue with it when they're the ones that end up paying the price.

00:08:01.660 So I know you've talked about this on your show, about how, actually, the younger generations are oftentimes the most affected by these lockdowns, by these policies.

00:08:10.220 I know that when you talk to Matt Strauss, he said that as well.

00:08:13.900 And I think it's the case that there is, you know, tapping into the nerve of younger Canadians who are really frustrated, really disappointed by the direction of the country.

00:08:24.640 There's a lot to be done there, and there's a lot of people that want this sort of content.

00:08:28.220 Well, that's so great, Ray Showed with Harrison Faulkner.

00:08:32.100 We're so excited to be hosting that.

00:08:33.920 It's going to be every Thursday.

00:08:35.360 So after you check out this episode, after you check out the Rupa Supermania show, go check out Ray Showed with Harrison Faulkner.

00:08:41.020 It's going to air every single Thursday here at True North.

00:08:44.980 And so just a final bit of announcements here at True North.

00:08:48.760 So before, for the last year and a half, the Candace Malcolm show has run every single day, Monday to Friday, and we've had so much fun putting that together.

00:08:56.660 We are scaling the show back for the time being.

00:08:59.160 So the Rupa Supermania show will fill the block on Tuesday, Ray Showed with Harrison Faulkner on Thursday.

00:09:05.900 We're going to be bringing in some new content as well to fill those slots.

00:09:09.180 And part of the reason why is because I'm excited to announce my husband and I are expecting baby number three at our household.

00:09:16.240 And so I will be taking time off starting this summer to be with my family, with my newborn, and with my two other little kids.

00:09:24.220 So that is why Candace Malcolm show won't be every day, won't be on at all after July.

00:09:30.860 And we're going to fill the slot in with lots and lots of other content at True North.

00:09:35.940 And then I'll be back on the channel sometime later this year or early next year.

00:09:40.460 And so we're all very, very excited and we're going to continue to provide lots and lots of content to True North viewers.

00:09:47.620 So with that, let's get to fake news Friday, Harrison.

00:09:50.560 I think the big, big story of the week was that the Trudeau government's narrative around the Emergencies Act and around the Trucker Convoy just continues to crumble.

00:10:01.280 Every single week, every single day with this national inquiry, we learn things that just don't match with what the liberals were saying at the time, don't match with the liberal media narrative that was being spouted at the time.

00:10:14.620 And we have yet another example this week.

00:10:16.860 So this story just came out yesterday.

00:10:20.980 Marco Medicino, the public safety minister, the media tells us that he was just misunderstood.

00:10:26.520 He was misunderstood when he said that the police asked for the Emergencies Act.

00:10:30.620 So you will recall that Marco Medicino repeatedly told us that the reason that the government invoked the Emergencies Act wasn't because of Trudeau.

00:10:38.100 It wasn't because of a liberal decision.

00:10:39.400 It had nothing to do with partisanship, nothing to do with Trudeau's personal hatred for these truckers.

00:10:43.900 It was all just the liberals were taking advice from law enforcement.

00:10:48.040 And so really it was the law enforcement that made the decision and not the political operatives in the liberal government.

00:10:54.160 Well, we have heard over and over again now that that's not true.

00:10:57.120 Every single law official, law enforcement official that has taken the stand in this national inquiry has said, no, that's not the case.

00:11:04.620 And so the headline this week isn't that Marco Medicino was wrong.

00:11:08.320 It wasn't that he lied and he misled the public and he misrepresented the situation.

00:11:14.200 It wasn't even that he misspoke.

00:11:16.500 It's that he was misunderstood.

00:11:18.040 So he didn't he didn't have a misunderstanding.

00:11:21.180 You did.

00:11:21.700 He was misunderstood.

00:11:23.560 And this is according to an official in the bureaucracy in his department.

00:11:27.300 Everyone is covering for this liberal government.

00:11:29.840 It is truly wild.

00:11:31.120 So we put together some clips for you.

00:11:34.280 First of all, this is a clip of Marco Medicino, who repeatedly said that the reason that the government invoked the Emergencies Act is because they were just following what the law enforcement said.

00:11:44.780 Here is that clip.

00:11:45.820 We invoked the Act because it was the advice of nonpartisan professional law enforcement.

00:11:53.420 That's the reason why we had to invoke the Emergencies Act.

00:11:56.120 And we did so on the basis of nonpartisan professional advice from law enforcement.

00:12:00.360 We were following the advice of various levels of law enforcement, including the RCMP.

00:12:07.440 After calling upon the police forces, we invoked the Emergency Measures Act.

00:12:10.980 We wanted to be sure at bottom that we were giving law enforcement all of the tools and the resources that they needed.

00:12:20.280 It was only after police told us that they needed this special power.

00:12:24.660 The Ontario Association, the Canadian Association, law enforcement was very strong.

00:12:33.580 I don't want to speak for every last serving member of law enforcement, but there was a very strong consensus that we needed to invoke the Act.

00:12:41.260 A strong consensus that we need to invoke the Act.

00:12:43.660 You can hear him say it over and over again, that it wasn't his decision, Harrison.

00:12:47.380 It wasn't the Liberal government.

00:12:48.560 It wasn't anything to do with petty politics.

00:12:50.340 He was just taking advice from the people who run the law enforcement side of things.

00:12:56.320 Do you think he was misunderstood?

00:12:57.860 What do you think of this take from the media?

00:12:59.900 Well, Candace, I don't know how many times you can be misunderstood before it turns on the person saying it.

00:13:06.220 It's not us who is misunderstood about what he's saying.

00:13:09.140 He seems to be mistaken about the actual course of events that he was a part of.

00:13:13.540 I mean, how many times have we seen this?

00:13:14.960 I've been all over the inquiry and posting clips on my Twitter trying to get the message out there.

00:13:19.780 Because one thing I've noticed is that aside from what we're covering here, Candace, there's not a lot of coverage happening on the inquiry.

00:13:25.760 People are not reacting to the fact that, as you said at the beginning, Trudeau's narrative is totally crumbling apart.

00:13:32.180 And just because you can, you know, the minister can say that he acted on the basis of law enforcement and the request of law enforcement.

00:13:40.020 But if the RCMP commissioner, if the Ottawa police chief, the former Ottawa police chief who was fired because he wasn't doing enough,

00:13:46.600 and the Gatineau mayor all say that they didn't request the government to invoke the Emergencies Act, and they confirm it in the inquiry,

00:13:56.560 then it's clear, Candace, that this narrative is obviously just not the case.

00:14:01.000 What Trudeau is trying to do is find a scapegoat.

00:14:03.540 What the minister is trying to do is find a scapegoat other than himself to pin the blame on this horrible mistake, 0.79

00:14:09.440 to invoke this ridiculous measure.

00:14:12.940 I think, I think, unfortunately for Marco Mendicino, he may be the one that gets thrown under the bus,

00:14:18.900 because this inquiry has definitely not gone the way the liberals wanted it to.

00:14:23.080 It seems that they're going into it.

00:14:25.320 They appointed the liberal justice, right, the former liberal staffer who's now a judge to head the inquiry.

00:14:30.720 And they had, they had this probably mapped out in their minds about how they're going to get out of it.

00:14:34.680 They're going to immediately start pinning the blame on, on the far right, on the extremists, as they tried many times.

00:14:41.800 And it hasn't gone that way.

00:14:43.900 The bloc, the NDP even, and the, and the conservatives, of course, and even the senators,

00:14:49.500 almost all the senators on the inquiry have been taking the liberals to task over this and expose their narrative.

00:14:55.500 Well, we have a clip of those officials that you did mention.

00:14:58.060 So, so you can juxtapose what the minister is on camera saying repeatedly that it was law enforcement that advised him.

00:15:04.560 And then now let's look at what those law enforcement agents say when they were asked to testify in front of this inquiry.

00:15:10.800 Here's that clip.

00:15:12.040 As a law enforcement agency with primacy for national security, did you ask the government or representatives for the invocation of the Emergencies Act?

00:15:19.500 No, there was never a question of requesting the Emergency Act.

00:15:25.580 There was a question.

00:15:26.280 Sorry, I don't, I don't mean to interrupt, but I'm sorry.

00:15:28.920 So you never asked for it.

00:15:30.280 Do you know of any other police leadership that asked specifically the government for, for the invocation?

00:15:36.460 No, we actually reached out to various police agencies when there was talk about some of the authorities within, that they were proposing.

00:15:43.140 And of course, we were consulted.

00:15:45.000 Did the Ottawa police make a request to the federal government to invoke the Emergencies Measures Act?

00:15:49.760 Yes or no?

00:15:50.660 So we were involved in conversations with our partners and with the political, the political ministries.

00:15:58.140 We didn't make a direct request for the Emergencies Act.

00:16:01.960 I'm wondering if you could confirm whether the city of Catano or its police services requested the federal government to invoke the Emergencies Act

00:16:12.680 during the Freedom Convoy.

00:16:19.540 Thank you very much for my question.

00:16:24.400 No, the city of Catano did not declare an emergency request to the Act, but it did provide considerable support to the RCMP.

00:16:34.660 Did yourself or anyone in the OPS request the invocation of the Emergency Act?

00:16:40.500 I did not make that request.

00:16:41.820 I'm not aware of anybody else in the Ottawa police service who did.

00:16:44.660 So no one, no one made the request.

00:16:46.320 No one's aware of anyone who made the request.

00:16:48.480 And to me, it kind of comes back to media coverage because at the time, no one was holding this government to account.

00:16:54.160 They had all bought into this idea that there was some kind of a January 6th moment coming in Canada and that these people were truly reprehensible.

00:17:01.560 There were white supremacists. 0.99

00:17:02.920 There were probably all murderers. 0.98

00:17:04.400 And it is needed to stop.

00:17:05.680 So the media allowed them to get away with this.

00:17:08.800 And now, where it's time for some accountability, you're right, Harrison, they hardly cover this, right?

00:17:14.540 It's not prime time.

00:17:15.940 It's not being covered on the news.

00:17:17.560 You go to CBC, National Post, Globe and Mail, any of these websites, they barely ever talk about it.

00:17:23.180 And when they do, they run stories like this.

00:17:25.300 So this was over in the Canadian press.

00:17:27.300 And they just repeat what the liberals want everyone to know.

00:17:30.700 Mendicino was misunderstood when he said, please ask for the Emergencies Act, according to this official.

00:17:35.920 It was all misunderstanding.

00:17:37.020 So they can't even bring themselves to say Mendicino is contradicted.

00:17:41.040 Mendicino is caught in a lie.

00:17:42.820 Mendicino's dishonesty is coming out.

00:17:44.800 No, none of that.

00:17:45.440 Just, again, very mild, very, you know, understated.

00:17:49.220 He was just misunderstood.

00:17:50.700 It wasn't even him that had the misunderstanding.

00:17:53.820 It was you, the public, or you, the, you know, the media, or it was someone else.

00:17:58.560 It was Canadians who misunderstood, not the minister.

00:18:02.220 So absolutely no accountability from the legacy media in the way that they are covering this.

00:18:08.380 And you made this point a couple weeks ago on the show, Harrison.

00:18:11.020 I think it's worth repeating that if this was in the U.S.,

00:18:14.240 if there was some kind of a unprecedented use of the authority of the federal government,

00:18:19.960 suspending civil rights as much as you can in this country,

00:18:23.260 using the entire force of the federal government,

00:18:26.740 suspending all kinds of other charter issues and everything,

00:18:31.160 and then there was an inquiry into it, it would be prime time.

00:18:34.840 It would be on all of the news channels.

00:18:36.580 It would be a huge story,

00:18:37.900 especially if it was against a conservative government or a Republican government in the U.S.

00:18:42.180 I mean, we have an example of this right now.

00:18:44.440 There is an inquiry in the U.S. into the January 6th riots.

00:18:49.380 This happened 18 months ago.

00:18:51.300 We pretty much have already gotten to the bottom of it and litigated it.

00:18:54.360 A bunch of people have gone to jail. 1.00

00:18:56.020 You know, 200 idiots stormed the Capitol, 1.00

00:18:59.060 and, you know, they're still dwelling on it, right? 1.00

00:19:01.100 And it is prime time.

00:19:02.060 The Democrats down there are trying to make it into this huge midterm election issue.

00:19:06.420 Again, compare that to here in Canada,

00:19:09.300 where the Trudeau government did something really unprecedented.

00:19:12.360 This emergency act had never been used before.

00:19:15.340 It's supposed to be there for wartime,

00:19:18.160 you know, for an invasion or some kind of internal uprising.

00:19:22.860 And yet, basically, no accountability.

00:19:27.200 It's such a stark difference in how the media treat liberals

00:19:30.960 versus how they treat conservatives.

00:19:32.960 Completely.

00:19:34.500 And again, going back to the narrative

00:19:36.700 that the law enforcement requested the act,

00:19:39.400 if the U.S. government told the Canadian government to do this,

00:19:42.980 or if the province of Ontario told the Canadian government to do this,

00:19:46.320 why not say that?

00:19:47.540 Just say to Canadians, 1.00

00:19:49.020 in fact, we were instructed by the provinces

00:19:51.380 and we were instructed by the United States to do this.

00:19:54.420 Would that be fair justification?

00:19:55.900 Likely not.

00:19:56.780 But if that's the justification,

00:19:58.260 if that's the truth,

00:19:59.480 come out there and say it.

00:20:00.820 Don't pin the blame on the cops

00:20:02.380 who will then just tell the actual truth to the people

00:20:05.340 and say, no, we didn't request it.

00:20:06.940 And like you said, Candace, again,

00:20:08.000 if this was a January 6th style committee,

00:20:11.140 then the liberals would be doing a lot better than they are.

00:20:14.020 I mean, the January 6th committee to this day are,

00:20:17.340 I mean, they just basically shackled

00:20:19.680 a former Trump office administrator in an airport

00:20:23.160 and did it in public and brought him in,

00:20:25.500 basically put him into the brig

00:20:27.820 because he was subpoenaed by the January 6th committee

00:20:31.680 and didn't show up.

00:20:32.840 So again, there's a total difference, right?

00:20:35.240 The media coverage of the January 6th committee

00:20:37.360 and the actions of that committee

00:20:39.100 are basically taking place

00:20:42.140 and they're actually making serious headway,

00:20:45.220 if you want to call it that.

00:20:46.220 And this committee,

00:20:47.380 which I think was designed

00:20:48.360 to prop up the liberal narrative,

00:20:50.240 is totally failing.

00:20:51.200 I mean, it's just exposing the entire debacle

00:20:54.580 that was the Emergencies Act.

00:20:56.280 And throughout this whole time, Candace,

00:20:57.620 we have to go through this long list

00:20:59.780 of narratives that the liberals

00:21:01.940 have put out there about the Emergencies Act

00:21:04.160 or about the events in Ottawa

00:21:05.840 that have since crumbled.

00:21:07.300 I mean, we can just go down the list.

00:21:08.340 Let's start with the wealthy donors.

00:21:09.960 From March 18, 2022,

00:21:11.980 Blacklocks reported that,

00:21:13.540 in fact, the wealthy foreign donors,

00:21:16.160 Blacklocks reported that,

00:21:17.160 in fact, it was Canadians who donated.

00:21:18.760 This line about it all being from the American 0.93

00:21:21.020 ultra-rich right wing is not the case.

00:21:24.300 It was proven false.

00:21:25.960 Another one, the RCMP saw no evidence

00:21:28.120 of terrorist financing.

00:21:29.820 So again, we were told this is a terrorist act

00:21:32.020 of foreign funding to incite some sort

00:21:35.320 of government over, you know,

00:21:37.740 government takeover turned out to be false.

00:21:40.620 Again, the next one,

00:21:41.980 the convoy was funded by Canadians,

00:21:43.760 not foreigners.

00:21:44.400 Like I said, they said the convoy was funded

00:21:46.300 by the Americans and by people from around the world.

00:21:48.500 And it was actually just funded

00:21:49.420 by the grassroots.

00:21:51.260 FinTrack, the financial advisor,

00:21:52.740 they said that they told the government

00:21:55.900 that there was no ideologically motivated

00:21:58.320 violent extremism that was funding the event.

00:22:02.220 I mean, just, I'm not even going to go down the list.

00:22:04.720 I mean, there's so many of them,

00:22:05.720 the firearms at Coutts,

00:22:07.300 the arson attempt in Ottawa,

00:22:08.980 the woman who danced in the war monument.

00:22:10.840 Again, all of these sorts of things,

00:22:12.300 all the attempt by the liberals

00:22:13.700 to paint this convoy as something it wasn't

00:22:16.360 are all starting to unravel.

00:22:17.900 Well, there was never anything there,

00:22:21.120 there anyway.

00:22:21.760 And we knew that in real time.

00:22:23.300 We were watching the convoy.

00:22:24.780 The media were reporting on it.

00:22:25.740 It was like a totally different event.

00:22:26.960 Whatever they were watching,

00:22:27.880 they were cherry picking 0.71

00:22:28.680 the craziest people they could find

00:22:30.520 and blowing stories out of proportion

00:22:32.360 that were easily debunkable at the time.

00:22:34.380 And they have since been debunked.

00:22:36.180 And I'm very grateful for True North

00:22:37.860 for going through and documenting that

00:22:39.980 so that we have it on record.

00:22:41.440 That, you know, just about every major narrative

00:22:43.640 that the legacy media spun up

00:22:45.660 from the trucker convoy

00:22:46.760 has turned out to be wrong.

00:22:49.140 And right, when they created

00:22:50.400 this national inquiry,

00:22:51.360 the point was,

00:22:52.540 why did the Trudeau government use this tool

00:22:54.580 that should have never been used?

00:22:56.640 Let's look into why the government used it.

00:22:59.120 Of course, Trudeau and his liberal spin doctors

00:23:01.440 and his friends in the media

00:23:02.620 painted it as if,

00:23:04.240 no, no, the purpose of this inquiry

00:23:05.620 is to look into the truckers

00:23:07.140 and try to find out what their motives were

00:23:08.780 and their ties to violent extremism

00:23:11.100 and terrorism or whatever.

00:23:12.320 And so they set it up that way in the media

00:23:15.460 as if this was a national inquiry

00:23:17.640 into the truckers

00:23:18.300 rather than a national inquiry

00:23:19.340 into the politicians

00:23:20.660 who used the full force of government

00:23:23.180 against the truckers.

00:23:24.960 And then to your point that you made

00:23:27.240 about how Mark Manichino

00:23:28.480 maybe ending up being thrown under the bus,

00:23:31.980 it's like, you know,

00:23:33.260 they created this show trial

00:23:34.280 and it's kind of backfiring on them

00:23:36.280 because all of the information

00:23:37.400 that comes out just keeps,

00:23:38.620 they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

00:23:39.920 It keeps becoming incredibly evident

00:23:43.060 and obvious to Canadians

00:23:44.220 that there was no real justification,

00:23:46.620 that it was all spin,

00:23:47.640 it was all smoke and mirrors.

00:23:49.200 And they continue to play this game.

00:23:51.640 Harrison, the latest this past week again

00:23:53.680 is that the government is now hiding

00:23:55.280 behind cabinet confidentiality.

00:23:57.060 So we've seen this over and over again, Harrison,

00:24:00.740 where first we had the Attorney General,

00:24:02.960 David Lamedi,

00:24:04.040 who basically just refuses to answer questions.

00:24:06.620 And whenever he's pressed,

00:24:07.560 he says, look, that's cabinet,

00:24:08.600 that's confidential,

00:24:09.520 it's protected under cabinet confidentiality.

00:24:12.420 I guess I thought that line works so well

00:24:14.200 that even Brenda Luckey,

00:24:15.800 who is the RCMP commissioner,

00:24:17.360 tried to use it.

00:24:18.000 The only problem, of course,

00:24:19.340 is that Luckey is not part of cabinet,

00:24:21.340 so she wouldn't have cabinet confidentiality.

00:24:23.380 We have some clips here of,

00:24:26.240 as you can see,

00:24:27.020 just more obfuscation,

00:24:28.640 refusing to answer basic questions,

00:24:30.760 refusing to be clear and honest with the public

00:24:33.240 about why they used, again,

00:24:36.100 this unprecedented tool

00:24:37.440 in the government powers.

00:24:40.540 And fortunately,

00:24:42.260 getting called out a little bit

00:24:43.500 by conservatives on the committee.

00:24:45.940 So let's play that clip.

00:24:46.880 Is that correct?

00:24:47.760 I'm not going to betray cabinet confidence.

00:24:49.620 And so the financing measures came into place.

00:24:53.460 In those consultations,

00:24:54.580 did you consult with provincial attorneys general?

00:24:58.260 There were,

00:24:59.600 we did have a consultation report.

00:25:03.880 And there were,

00:25:05.280 again, I'm not going to betray,

00:25:06.820 I'm not going to betray cabinet confidences.

00:25:10.160 I would ask that you undertake

00:25:12.120 to provide the analysis

00:25:15.000 and the information

00:25:16.240 that you were made aware of

00:25:18.840 that you relied upon

00:25:20.740 to, you know,

00:25:23.620 to be part of making the invocation

00:25:26.120 for this particular emergencies act, sir.

00:25:29.840 Thank you, Mr. Motz.

00:25:30.800 I understand the sentiment behind the question,

00:25:32.780 and I certainly share the goal of transparency.

00:25:36.440 I think Canadians will understand

00:25:38.180 that cabinet confidence

00:25:40.020 is a critical part

00:25:41.340 of our cabinet governance system.

00:25:43.500 You know, we,

00:25:44.740 I can't get into the details

00:25:47.120 of specific discussions,

00:25:49.600 but I can say that, yeah.

00:25:51.620 Why can't we get into the details, Commissioner?

00:25:53.780 Sorry.

00:25:55.480 Well, because they were within cabinet

00:25:58.340 and I'm bound by that cabinet confidence,

00:26:01.420 but I can talk about in general.

00:26:03.400 I provided the situational report,

00:26:05.420 which would have provided them

00:26:06.580 the details that they needed

00:26:08.320 to come up with some of the measures.

00:26:10.720 Are you still maintaining

00:26:11.940 solicitor and client privilege?

00:26:13.560 Are you willing to waive that?

00:26:16.220 Well, I'm also bound

00:26:17.500 by cabinet confidence as well.

00:26:19.560 You're not part of the cabinet.

00:26:21.260 You're not part of that confidence.

00:26:24.120 No, but I am

00:26:25.140 when I provide them information in cabinet.

00:26:27.680 To be continued.

00:26:28.560 Oh, do I?

00:26:30.780 Seconds.

00:26:31.400 Go ahead.

00:26:33.640 You're not part of cabinet.

00:26:35.520 You're not an elected official.

00:26:38.380 So why are you hiding

00:26:39.600 behind cabinet confidentiality?

00:26:41.840 Canadians want to know.

00:26:43.420 I would just request

00:26:44.260 that the questions go through the chair

00:26:46.680 rather than directly to the witness.

00:26:48.600 I didn't think we were

00:26:51.680 that formal, Madam Chair,

00:26:53.160 that we had to say through the chair.

00:26:54.340 We weren't before the badgering,

00:26:55.300 but now we are.

00:26:56.100 Can the witness

00:26:56.520 me answer the question?

00:26:58.520 We stopped the clock.

00:26:59.760 Okay, we'll go ahead.

00:27:00.600 It's 37 seconds.

00:27:02.280 Why do you feel

00:27:03.060 you are bound

00:27:03.760 by cabinet confidentiality

00:27:05.780 as an unelected official?

00:27:09.440 When I'm providing information

00:27:11.280 within cabinet,

00:27:12.900 I'm bound by the rules of cabinet.

00:27:15.800 Are you part

00:27:16.380 of the Liberal government,

00:27:17.180 Ms. Lucky? 0.98

00:27:18.520 Not at all.

00:27:19.620 Are you a donor

00:27:20.280 to the Liberal Party?

00:27:22.060 No.

00:27:23.460 You sure about that?

00:27:25.160 I'm sure.

00:27:27.060 Are you still citing

00:27:28.200 cabinet confidentiality?

00:27:31.980 Yes.

00:27:32.940 So, Candace,

00:27:33.600 as you can see there,

00:27:34.840 they just have no interest

00:27:36.140 in wanting to get

00:27:37.180 to the bottom of the facts.

00:27:38.220 They have no interest

00:27:38.980 in trying to tell the truth.

00:27:40.060 You saw David Lamedi

00:27:41.540 there basically say

00:27:43.040 the same thing

00:27:43.860 in maybe five different ways

00:27:45.480 that, yeah,

00:27:46.480 he understands

00:27:47.300 that you want the answers.

00:27:48.420 He understands Canadians

00:27:49.400 deserve the truth,

00:27:50.560 but he's not going

00:27:50.980 to give it to us.

00:27:51.640 He's going to hide behind

00:27:52.580 cabinet confidence,

00:27:54.200 cabinet confidentiality,

00:27:55.500 as he says.

00:27:55.960 He doesn't want to divulge

00:27:57.140 or break cabinet confidence.

00:27:59.140 And again,

00:27:59.580 right at the end,

00:28:00.140 you saw RCMP commissioner,

00:28:01.640 Brenda Lucky,

00:28:02.580 try to hide behind

00:28:03.500 cabinet confidence too,

00:28:04.540 almost as if she,

00:28:05.320 she kind of wishes,

00:28:06.220 wishes she was a part

00:28:07.340 of cabinet,

00:28:07.960 but she's not.

00:28:08.680 That's just the truth.

00:28:10.140 She's a public servant,

00:28:11.260 unelected,

00:28:11.840 and whose job it is

00:28:13.420 to do good

00:28:14.340 by the people of Canada,

00:28:15.560 not to serve

00:28:16.500 the prime minister

00:28:17.500 at the time.

00:28:18.500 That's not the role

00:28:19.160 of the RCMP commissioner.

00:28:20.320 The RCMP commissioner

00:28:21.260 role is to basically

00:28:23.440 lead the federal police service

00:28:25.740 and protect Canadians.

00:28:27.180 And part of that

00:28:27.760 is telling the truth.

00:28:29.080 And rightly,

00:28:30.380 Larry Brock

00:28:31.280 of the conservative party,

00:28:32.540 who's a part

00:28:33.180 of the committee,

00:28:34.000 and I have to say as well,

00:28:35.020 both conservatives

00:28:35.700 on the committee,

00:28:36.920 Glenn Motts

00:28:37.880 and Larry Brock

00:28:38.560 have both done

00:28:39.020 an excellent job

00:28:39.700 at trying to hold

00:28:40.300 people's feet to the fire here.

00:28:41.980 He just basically

00:28:42.800 told Brenda Lucky

00:28:43.600 straight up,

00:28:44.620 you're not part of cabinet.

00:28:45.960 Why do you think

00:28:46.600 you can hide behind

00:28:47.380 cabinet confidence?

00:28:48.660 You know,

00:28:49.040 you're not,

00:28:50.040 you're not actually

00:28:50.760 bound by this

00:28:51.700 cabinet confidence,

00:28:52.360 so you have a duty

00:28:52.880 to tell the truth.

00:28:54.020 But again,

00:28:54.400 that doesn't work

00:28:55.140 for Brenda Lucky.

00:28:56.040 And then of course,

00:28:56.980 Candace,

00:28:57.660 they tried it

00:28:58.240 one too many times,

00:28:59.140 chalk it up

00:28:59.600 as another win

00:29:00.400 for the truckers.

00:29:01.480 The committee

00:29:02.360 headed by a liberal justice

00:29:04.200 as we talked about before

00:29:05.140 is now telling

00:29:06.280 the government

00:29:07.220 that actually

00:29:07.860 we are going to request

00:29:08.940 these documents.

00:29:10.380 We do have

00:29:11.080 a duty to understand

00:29:12.740 what the government

00:29:13.340 knew at the time

00:29:14.160 and why they invoked

00:29:15.240 the act.

00:29:16.620 So as you can see here

00:29:17.920 on June 3rd,

00:29:19.420 True North wrote

00:29:20.060 about the fact

00:29:20.820 that the public inquiry

00:29:21.700 was now telling the government

00:29:23.580 we're going to request

00:29:24.600 these documents from you.

00:29:26.000 We have to get to the bottom

00:29:27.060 of what's going on.

00:29:27.800 So again,

00:29:28.400 it's another L

00:29:29.260 for Trudeau

00:29:29.960 and the liberals.

00:29:31.220 Their narrative

00:29:31.640 is crumbling

00:29:32.700 and their attempts

00:29:33.760 to obfuscate,

00:29:35.060 their attempts to hide

00:29:36.020 are being called out

00:29:37.260 by the liberal justice

00:29:38.320 they handpicked

00:29:39.220 to lead this process.

00:29:40.380 So it's really all

00:29:41.380 falling apart

00:29:41.900 for them, Candace.

00:29:43.120 Well, it's good to see

00:29:44.580 someone is holding

00:29:45.540 the liberal government

00:29:46.420 to account.

00:29:46.980 It's too bad

00:29:47.360 that our legacy media

00:29:48.160 have no interest

00:29:49.180 in covering it

00:29:50.140 and which is why,

00:29:51.460 again,

00:29:52.080 I'm grateful

00:29:52.520 for True North.

00:29:53.260 Well, Harrison,

00:29:53.800 I want to talk about

00:29:54.600 polyev derangement syndrome.

00:29:56.660 We had an entire episode

00:29:57.520 of the show

00:29:57.960 on it a few weeks ago

00:29:59.180 and it continues

00:30:00.040 to thrive.

00:30:01.420 And so I covered

00:30:02.300 this in my show

00:30:02.820 earlier this week

00:30:03.460 in an interview

00:30:03.840 with Hamish Marshall

00:30:05.080 where we talked about

00:30:06.420 how the conservative numbers

00:30:07.760 have just blown

00:30:08.400 everyone's figures

00:30:09.640 out of the park.

00:30:10.580 600,000 members,

00:30:12.080 Pierre Polyev claims

00:30:12.840 311,958

00:30:15.540 on his website alone.

00:30:17.400 This is dwarfing

00:30:18.360 any previous leadership race,

00:30:20.640 any previous number

00:30:21.900 of memberships

00:30:23.400 sold by a political party.

00:30:25.280 And it's so interesting

00:30:26.040 to see how the media narrative

00:30:27.420 has been proven wrong, Harrison,

00:30:28.900 because remember at first

00:30:30.400 when we saw

00:30:30.740 those big rallies

00:30:31.540 at the Pierre Polyev campaign,

00:30:34.540 the media sort of

00:30:35.280 tried to downplay it.

00:30:36.200 They tried to dismiss it.

00:30:37.400 First, they said that,

00:30:38.360 oh, these big rallies

00:30:39.520 are really just,

00:30:40.960 you know,

00:30:41.500 riding the coattails

00:30:43.400 of the trucker convoy,

00:30:44.680 that these people

00:30:45.100 aren't partisan,

00:30:46.400 they're never going

00:30:46.720 to sign up for members,

00:30:47.660 that Pierre's campaign

00:30:48.980 is really disorganized

00:30:49.980 and they wouldn't be able

00:30:50.900 to have the groundwork.

00:30:52.520 Well, that was all

00:30:53.120 proven wrong

00:30:53.740 based on this claim

00:30:54.820 from Jenny Byrne,

00:30:55.800 Polyev's campaign advisor,

00:30:57.620 that no, no,

00:30:58.680 all of those things

00:30:59.320 are wrong.

00:30:59.680 Of course,

00:31:00.700 my favorite narrative

00:31:01.960 about the Pierre Polyev rallies

00:31:04.540 with the media

00:31:05.060 said that they were too white

00:31:05.940 and that somehow discredited them

00:31:07.820 because of the people,

00:31:08.980 the skin color of the people

00:31:10.060 who go to your rallies

00:31:10.860 apparently can be discrediting.

00:31:13.000 And so it's really interesting,

00:31:14.720 of course,

00:31:15.020 to compare how Polyev

00:31:16.440 and the conservative

00:31:17.980 leadership race in general,

00:31:19.700 you know,

00:31:19.940 you see the media downplay it,

00:31:21.460 compare it to how they covered

00:31:22.740 Justin Trudeau.

00:31:23.720 A lot of people

00:31:24.080 have been talking about this

00:31:24.960 because back in 2013,

00:31:26.900 Justin Trudeau claimed

00:31:27.680 that his campaign

00:31:29.140 had signed up

00:31:29.660 150 to 160,000 people

00:31:31.880 and the media

00:31:32.840 were like blown away.

00:31:34.420 They were celebrating.

00:31:35.360 They thought this was

00:31:35.820 like a tremendous feat

00:31:36.860 and that it showed

00:31:37.800 how energetic

00:31:38.960 Trudeau's fan base was

00:31:40.380 and how he was so engaging

00:31:41.560 and how he had this,

00:31:42.680 this big,

00:31:43.740 all this momentum,

00:31:44.820 right?

00:31:46.360 Recall that the liberals

00:31:47.700 don't charge anything

00:31:48.720 for their membership.

00:31:49.580 So all you really had to do

00:31:50.600 is just like get someone

00:31:51.460 to write down their name

00:31:52.300 and email address

00:31:53.040 and they didn't have to

00:31:54.000 put any skin in the game,

00:31:55.240 right?

00:31:55.760 Compare that to Pierre

00:31:56.900 and the conservative party

00:31:58.360 where you have to pay

00:31:58.960 at least 15 bucks

00:32:00.040 so you're not just

00:32:00.880 some random person

00:32:01.640 off the street.

00:32:02.340 You have to have

00:32:02.920 that level of commitment

00:32:03.760 to say I'm willing

00:32:04.940 to part with some

00:32:05.640 of my own money

00:32:06.280 to show that I support

00:32:07.700 this candidate.

00:32:08.880 So just so many aspects

00:32:10.380 of what the media

00:32:11.280 had said all along

00:32:12.480 proving to be false

00:32:13.920 but the media being the media,

00:32:15.340 they just can't let it go

00:32:16.440 and so they continue

00:32:17.500 along this line,

00:32:19.380 along this reasoning.

00:32:20.300 Almost all of the news stories

00:32:21.800 that I saw about

00:32:23.140 the conservative numbers,

00:32:24.540 they always say

00:32:25.400 conservatives claim

00:32:26.940 or you know,

00:32:28.140 you see it right in the

00:32:29.020 built into the headline

00:32:30.160 that this is a claim

00:32:31.320 that it's not verified,

00:32:32.420 never trusted politician.

00:32:33.480 Don Iveson had a piece

00:32:34.500 over in the National Post

00:32:36.320 and he said that

00:32:37.660 no one really knows

00:32:38.400 the real numbers.

00:32:39.240 It's a good rule of thumb

00:32:39.920 in journalism

00:32:40.280 to never believe anything

00:32:41.540 that politicians

00:32:42.260 or political parties say.

00:32:44.040 You have to be

00:32:44.740 professional skepticism.

00:32:45.640 That's all well and good

00:32:46.360 and that is all true.

00:32:47.560 You do need to preface it

00:32:48.720 but the emphasis is there,

00:32:50.280 right?

00:32:50.500 Just compare this to

00:32:51.720 even just a story

00:32:52.640 we just talked about,

00:32:53.460 right?

00:32:53.820 Medellino's out there

00:32:54.580 changing his story,

00:32:55.620 being contradicted

00:32:56.280 left, right and center

00:32:56.960 and the media still runs

00:32:58.300 with whatever the liberals say,

00:32:59.640 that's the fact

00:33:00.500 and then whenever

00:33:01.200 a conservative says something,

00:33:02.420 they always say allegedly

00:33:03.880 or conservatives say

00:33:05.340 or candidates claim,

00:33:07.140 having that suffix there

00:33:09.320 just to say,

00:33:10.660 well,

00:33:10.780 just to plant some doubt

00:33:12.020 in the reader's mind,

00:33:12.760 like we don't really believe

00:33:13.620 this,

00:33:13.840 this is just what they're saying

00:33:14.840 and that double standard

00:33:17.140 is there

00:33:18.060 and then we have another piece,

00:33:19.040 Harrison from our friend

00:33:20.200 Gary Mason

00:33:20.820 over at the Globe and Mail.

00:33:21.960 He wrote the most arranged piece

00:33:24.060 a couple of weeks ago

00:33:25.120 about Pierre Polyev

00:33:25.900 while he continues

00:33:26.660 down that line

00:33:27.640 so I'll read a little bit

00:33:29.360 from this column.

00:33:30.600 He says,

00:33:31.000 say what you will

00:33:31.380 about Mr. Polyev's policies,

00:33:33.280 many of which range

00:33:34.180 from disturbing

00:33:35.020 to all out bonkers.

00:33:37.060 His campaign

00:33:37.640 is a well-oiled machine

00:33:38.540 so he's sort of reluctantly

00:33:39.640 saying that Pierre Polyev

00:33:41.440 is good at his job.

00:33:43.020 Can't help but throwing in

00:33:44.020 that apparently

00:33:44.420 his policies range

00:33:45.420 from disturbing 0.96

00:33:45.960 to bonkers.

00:33:47.060 Okay.

00:33:47.860 And he says,

00:33:48.940 basically,

00:33:49.380 Pierre Polyev's good fortune

00:33:50.540 his supporters 0.86

00:33:51.160 don't see his own hypocrisy. 0.94

00:33:53.220 He says, 0.88

00:33:53.720 this is my favorite line

00:33:54.720 from the piece,

00:33:55.900 Mr. Polyev is also a phony

00:33:57.580 when it comes to his policies.

00:33:59.240 His oft-stated intention

00:34:00.400 to make Canada

00:34:01.300 the freest country on earth

00:34:02.460 certainly had an appealing ring

00:34:04.100 to the mostly white protesters

00:34:05.720 who participated

00:34:06.380 in the self-described

00:34:07.080 freedom convoy

00:34:07.880 earlier this year

00:34:08.480 to whom he pandered

00:34:10.080 shamelessly.

00:34:11.080 So you can't even come up

00:34:12.280 with anything neutral

00:34:13.880 or,

00:34:14.500 or,

00:34:14.900 I mean,

00:34:15.620 this is,

00:34:15.920 this is just flat out

00:34:16.940 anti-conservative

00:34:18.380 hatred and bigotry

00:34:19.380 masquerading as journalism.

00:34:21.660 What do you make

00:34:22.100 of all this,

00:34:22.620 Harrison?

00:34:23.400 Well,

00:34:23.680 it totally is,

00:34:24.900 Candice.

00:34:25.240 And I mean,

00:34:25.540 this is just what

00:34:26.160 we've come to expect

00:34:26.980 over these past few months.

00:34:28.560 One thing I just

00:34:29.260 don't really understand,

00:34:30.780 though,

00:34:31.040 is that you're seeing

00:34:32.200 the same amount of,

00:34:33.680 you know,

00:34:33.900 you're seeing the same

00:34:34.520 sort of vitriol

00:34:35.300 and the same amount

00:34:36.340 of negative coverage

00:34:37.280 from the legacy media

00:34:38.560 that you would see

00:34:39.240 directed to people

00:34:40.160 like Maxime Bernier.

00:34:42.000 Pierre Polyev's campaign

00:34:43.260 is staffed by

00:34:44.660 pretty establishment

00:34:46.060 figures in conservative

00:34:47.080 politics,

00:34:48.020 people who have been

00:34:48.620 around for many years

00:34:49.980 who have,

00:34:50.460 who have names

00:34:51.260 inside conservative

00:34:52.240 politics and journalists

00:34:53.280 know that.

00:34:54.260 Pierre Polyev is not

00:34:55.120 running some outsider

00:34:56.500 anti-establishment campaign.

00:34:58.800 He's very much

00:34:59.600 running from the inside

00:35:01.460 of the conservative

00:35:02.080 party.

00:35:02.520 And it just so happens

00:35:03.600 to be that right now,

00:35:05.020 Canada is going

00:35:05.540 through a major moment

00:35:06.960 where we have a leader

00:35:07.860 that has essentially,

00:35:09.180 you know,

00:35:10.780 severely damaged

00:35:11.720 the trust of government

00:35:12.900 and people

00:35:13.420 and has shown them

00:35:15.260 that their charter rights,

00:35:16.580 frankly,

00:35:16.880 aren't that protected.

00:35:17.800 So, of course,

00:35:18.380 a good candidate

00:35:18.940 is going to jump on that

00:35:19.800 and make it part

00:35:20.420 of his campaign.

00:35:21.120 But it's just,

00:35:22.000 it's just kind of weird

00:35:22.760 to me that the legacy media

00:35:24.640 have decided

00:35:25.620 to attack Pierre Polyev

00:35:27.800 so much

00:35:28.520 and almost go,

00:35:30.100 go as far as to

00:35:31.160 put him in the same category

00:35:32.420 as someone like

00:35:32.980 Maxime Bernier.

00:35:34.000 It's kind of surprising

00:35:35.040 to me knowing

00:35:35.520 who's a part of Pierre's campaign.

00:35:37.520 And of course,

00:35:38.240 you know,

00:35:38.580 we get the usual content

00:35:39.900 from the Canadian press

00:35:41.040 about how

00:35:42.960 it's just a claim

00:35:44.160 that the conservatives

00:35:44.940 could be lying about this

00:35:46.740 or they could not

00:35:47.220 be telling the truth.

00:35:48.580 And of course,

00:35:49.340 when you compare that

00:35:50.140 to the coverage

00:35:51.240 that Justin Trudeau gets

00:35:52.640 or the coverage

00:35:53.420 that the liberals

00:35:54.040 will get when they have

00:35:54.840 some sort of event

00:35:55.560 like this,

00:35:56.340 it's never the same.

00:35:57.300 Of course,

00:35:57.600 the media wants to

00:35:58.400 take some sort of

00:35:59.520 negative tone

00:36:00.680 toward the conservatives

00:36:01.580 because as your show title

00:36:03.880 on Wednesday

00:36:05.020 Rutley pointed out,

00:36:06.080 this is frightening

00:36:06.880 for the liberals.

00:36:07.940 I mean,

00:36:08.120 this is frightening

00:36:08.960 for the legacy media,

00:36:10.940 for liberals,

00:36:11.600 for the establishment

00:36:12.500 in Canada.

00:36:13.440 They have to reconcile

00:36:14.260 with the fact

00:36:14.840 that I think people

00:36:15.960 are fed up

00:36:16.620 with what they've been given

00:36:17.460 by these people.

00:36:18.580 They don't want to see

00:36:19.620 this sort of constant

00:36:21.660 negative press

00:36:22.860 about them in the media.

00:36:24.100 They don't want to see

00:36:24.680 the government

00:36:25.120 treat them this way.

00:36:26.320 People are fed up

00:36:26.960 and I think they know

00:36:27.520 their time is coming

00:36:28.160 to an end shortly.

00:36:29.800 Absolutely.

00:36:30.300 I think that so much

00:36:31.120 of the momentum

00:36:31.860 behind the poly of campaign

00:36:33.180 and the conservative movement

00:36:34.200 more broadly

00:36:35.140 is just an absolute

00:36:37.040 dismay and disgust

00:36:39.340 over this liberal government,

00:36:40.880 over the way

00:36:41.200 that they've been

00:36:41.560 propped up

00:36:42.220 by the NDP,

00:36:43.740 an unelected coalition,

00:36:45.420 the way that the legacy media

00:36:46.500 lies and covers

00:36:47.580 for this government

00:36:48.280 and the attitude

00:36:49.400 of the Trudeau liberals.

00:36:50.600 I think there are

00:36:50.980 so many Canadians

00:36:51.760 who are apolitical

00:36:53.260 or nonpartisan,

00:36:54.860 who watch from afar,

00:36:56.080 and they've just

00:36:56.860 had enough.

00:36:57.500 They're sick of it

00:36:58.300 and that is part

00:36:59.600 of the reason

00:36:59.940 why there is

00:37:00.520 this huge movement

00:37:01.160 and it's like

00:37:01.780 these elites

00:37:03.060 and these gatekeepers

00:37:03.940 and these Laurentians

00:37:05.240 who, you know,

00:37:06.880 they're grasping

00:37:07.640 onto their control

00:37:09.280 of the country

00:37:09.820 and they're seeing

00:37:10.520 it slip away

00:37:11.020 because people

00:37:11.700 are really waking up

00:37:12.640 to this idea

00:37:13.760 that somehow

00:37:15.520 the Trudeau government

00:37:17.100 is a well-run,

00:37:18.960 respectable government.

00:37:21.040 It certainly isn't.

00:37:21.920 Well, Harrison,

00:37:22.940 we wanted to end

00:37:23.920 this show

00:37:24.300 on a bit

00:37:24.740 of a lighter note.

00:37:25.560 I don't know

00:37:25.800 if this is lighter

00:37:26.300 or if this is depressing

00:37:27.480 or if it's funny.

00:37:29.520 I find it kind of funny

00:37:30.620 but the Treasury Board

00:37:31.780 of Canada

00:37:32.300 is promoting

00:37:33.840 this weird new concept

00:37:36.080 that we should all

00:37:37.320 put our pronouns

00:37:38.280 into our email.

00:37:40.020 So this is what

00:37:41.060 the Federal Treasury

00:37:42.680 Board of Canada,

00:37:43.620 the people who,

00:37:44.700 you know,

00:37:45.260 basically the people

00:37:46.360 who let inflation

00:37:47.400 run wild

00:37:48.360 and, you know,

00:37:49.360 look at the state

00:37:50.120 of the finances

00:37:50.740 in our country.

00:37:52.140 You're wondering

00:37:52.400 what is going on

00:37:53.100 over at the Treasury Department.

00:37:54.920 Well, this is what

00:37:55.640 the brain trusts

00:37:56.400 over there

00:37:56.860 are spending

00:37:57.400 their time on,

00:37:59.000 you know,

00:37:59.920 informational videos

00:38:01.480 shaming Canadians

00:38:02.780 and teaching us

00:38:04.700 these good lessons

00:38:05.720 about how we need

00:38:06.460 to be more inclusive.

00:38:07.220 Let's play this clip.

00:38:22.400 So there you have it,

00:38:49.060 Harrison.

00:38:49.400 We would all be better off

00:38:51.680 if we just,

00:38:52.420 you know,

00:38:53.160 left the ambiguity aside

00:38:54.540 and left the ambiguity aside

00:38:56.580 and put our pronouns

00:38:57.980 right out front and center

00:38:59.820 so that we can all participate

00:39:01.360 in this weird identity game

00:39:03.360 of sort of,

00:39:05.200 you know,

00:39:05.500 the whole gender,

00:39:07.180 non-binary,

00:39:08.760 gender ideology

00:39:09.400 that's all the rage

00:39:10.500 on the far extreme left.

00:39:12.340 Well, now it's reached

00:39:13.700 the Treasury Board.

00:39:15.280 What did you think

00:39:16.280 when you saw this tweet?

00:39:17.060 It's such a strange

00:39:18.900 corporate phenomenon,

00:39:20.660 Candice,

00:39:20.960 that basically everyone

00:39:22.240 in a corporate gig

00:39:23.840 or a government gig

00:39:24.880 needs to display

00:39:25.840 their preferred pronouns

00:39:27.060 by their name.

00:39:27.940 I think in pretty much

00:39:29.020 every big company

00:39:29.980 that is the policy,

00:39:31.180 if you are,

00:39:31.860 if you refuse,

00:39:32.740 if you hold out

00:39:33.560 because you don't believe

00:39:35.000 that you have to disclose

00:39:36.220 whether or not you're,

00:39:37.300 whether you go by he, him,

00:39:38.960 or she, her pronouns

00:39:39.940 like a normal person,

00:39:41.200 if you hold out like that,

00:39:42.620 you're going to be,

00:39:43.340 you're going to basically be,

00:39:44.920 you're going to be pressured

00:39:45.740 into doing it

00:39:46.460 or you're going to be shamed

00:39:47.400 for not,

00:39:48.120 for not adopting this,

00:39:49.720 this so-called,

00:39:51.240 well, it's,

00:39:51.700 it's in the name

00:39:52.500 of inclusivity, of course,

00:39:53.680 but you're not allowed

00:39:54.840 to not do it.

00:39:55.600 And now the government

00:39:56.240 is telling you

00:39:56.740 that you have to do it.

00:39:57.380 It's just such a strange thing.

00:39:58.700 I think,

00:39:59.460 I think in,

00:40:00.540 in hopefully

00:40:01.660 in my lifetime

00:40:03.060 at some point,

00:40:03.560 we're all going to look back

00:40:04.500 at this moment in time

00:40:05.480 and just question

00:40:06.380 what we were thinking.

00:40:07.700 I really hope

00:40:08.460 this is not something

00:40:09.160 that exists for forever

00:40:10.760 and maybe we can kind of

00:40:11.860 get out of this weird moment

00:40:13.020 that we're living through.

00:40:14.380 And I hope that we do

00:40:15.180 have some time to reflect

00:40:16.100 and say,

00:40:16.780 wow, that's just very strange.

00:40:18.980 Just very strange

00:40:19.960 that we're doing this

00:40:20.700 all of a sudden.

00:40:22.080 Well, first of all,

00:40:22.880 I find the idea of pronouns

00:40:24.300 like fundamentally arrogant

00:40:26.420 and narcissistic 0.99

00:40:27.340 because you're basically

00:40:28.180 telling other people

00:40:29.260 who you work with

00:40:30.160 or whom you may interact with,

00:40:32.000 this is how you will refer to me

00:40:33.380 when I'm not around, right?

00:40:34.720 This is,

00:40:35.180 this is how like,

00:40:36.500 like you will refer to me

00:40:38.160 as she and her.

00:40:39.040 You will not refer to me

00:40:39.820 in any other way.

00:40:40.440 For 99.9% of the population,

00:40:43.400 it's pretty obvious

00:40:44.260 when you interact with someone.

00:40:45.880 This includes trans people

00:40:47.280 because if you were a man

00:40:48.860 who wanted to appear like a woman, 0.99

00:40:50.840 you would dress like a woman 1.00

00:40:51.700 and you would want people

00:40:53.100 to refer to you

00:40:54.260 using female pronouns.

00:40:56.360 So the vast,

00:40:57.300 vast overwhelming majority

00:40:58.400 of people fall into

00:40:59.640 a very easily identified category,

00:41:02.320 he or she.

00:41:03.540 And, you know,

00:41:04.360 it's up to the discretion

00:41:05.380 of the person.

00:41:06.140 Sure, sometimes there's

00:41:06.900 some awkward interactions

00:41:08.180 like the example

00:41:08.880 at the Treasury Board

00:41:09.560 where someone has

00:41:10.220 a gender neutral name,

00:41:12.020 an ambiguous name.

00:41:14.080 Okay, you know, fine,

00:41:15.580 you have an awkward

00:41:16.360 little interaction

00:41:17.100 like this email

00:41:17.900 that we saw.

00:41:19.520 You know,

00:41:19.840 how is it the end of the world?

00:41:21.260 This idea

00:41:22.440 that everyone must call me

00:41:24.680 what I say.

00:41:25.720 You know,

00:41:25.880 I thought it was

00:41:26.300 a passing trend

00:41:27.100 on social media

00:41:27.880 from a couple of years ago

00:41:29.040 like when the whole

00:41:29.840 Jordan Peterson,

00:41:31.360 you know,

00:41:32.360 I refuse to be compelled

00:41:33.940 to use pronouns.

00:41:35.060 I really thought

00:41:36.020 that it was kind of

00:41:36.780 going to come and go

00:41:37.520 but it seems like

00:41:38.280 now it's,

00:41:39.560 you know,

00:41:39.840 it's not just

00:41:40.460 the woke activists

00:41:41.200 but it's becoming

00:41:42.360 more,

00:41:42.740 like you say,

00:41:43.140 mainstream and corporate

00:41:44.100 and government circles.

00:41:45.880 We have the Treasury Board here.

00:41:47.100 Why don't you tell us

00:41:47.740 a bit about this

00:41:48.860 WestJet story

00:41:49.940 that's also making

00:41:52.080 headlines in the news?

00:41:54.560 Well, so,

00:41:55.180 of course,

00:41:55.660 we prep for the show,

00:41:57.420 Candace.

00:41:58.260 The prep has to be,

00:42:00.260 you know,

00:42:00.400 you do have to do

00:42:01.200 a CBC scroll through

00:42:02.440 because if you're ever

00:42:03.420 short on content,

00:42:04.320 just hit the CBC website

00:42:05.700 and you'll find

00:42:06.480 something immediately

00:42:07.080 and sure enough,

00:42:08.080 before going to the air,

00:42:08.840 we found this,

00:42:09.620 this really strange

00:42:10.940 CBC article

00:42:11.800 where a transgender advocate

00:42:13.880 calls out WestJet

00:42:15.160 for forcing passengers

00:42:17.140 to identify as male

00:42:18.400 or female.

00:42:19.560 She's very upset

00:42:20.360 about the fact

00:42:21.040 that WestJet

00:42:22.260 is not allowing

00:42:23.100 this,

00:42:24.880 this woman.

00:42:25.820 I said she,

00:42:26.520 I don't want to

00:42:27.180 misgender anyone 0.98

00:42:28.060 so I want to be careful

00:42:28.880 here, of course,

00:42:29.860 be horrible

00:42:30.280 to offend someone.

00:42:31.540 But she says

00:42:32.840 that it's a problem

00:42:33.680 because she can't

00:42:34.820 put X on her

00:42:36.440 as her gender

00:42:37.700 and that because

00:42:38.980 of this,

00:42:39.540 WestJet is violating

00:42:40.420 her human rights.

00:42:41.780 Now, I have to say,

00:42:42.880 I'm a bit of a fan

00:42:43.880 of WestJet

00:42:44.340 over these past few days.

00:42:45.380 The WestJet CEO

00:42:46.220 has been pretty vocal

00:42:47.520 about trying to drop

00:42:48.540 Canada's totally punitive 0.87

00:42:50.220 and ridiculous

00:42:50.860 travel restrictions.

00:42:52.420 And then here,

00:42:53.680 the CBC,

00:42:54.420 maybe they're trying

00:42:55.020 to get at WestJet

00:42:56.500 for taking shots

00:42:57.480 at the government.

00:42:58.520 Well, now,

00:42:59.160 apparently,

00:42:59.440 they're violating

00:43:00.260 people's human rights

00:43:02.360 because they're not

00:43:03.120 allowing them

00:43:03.540 to put X

00:43:04.200 as their gender.

00:43:05.300 God forbid,

00:43:06.000 they just want

00:43:07.680 to keep it male 0.66

00:43:08.220 and female.

00:43:09.560 Not allowed to do

00:43:10.360 that in mainstream

00:43:11.080 Canadian culture

00:43:11.720 anymore, Candace.

00:43:13.340 You know,

00:43:13.920 you're right.

00:43:14.420 The CBC is so out

00:43:15.560 of touch.

00:43:16.000 It's so easy

00:43:16.480 to just pop on

00:43:17.300 over to the site

00:43:18.000 and you could do

00:43:18.560 an entire episode

00:43:19.280 just on whatever's

00:43:20.120 on the front page

00:43:21.620 there.

00:43:21.980 But really trying

00:43:22.960 to push these

00:43:23.700 very extreme niche

00:43:24.940 issues, I think,

00:43:25.580 turning most Canadians 0.56

00:43:27.120 off in the process

00:43:28.120 because no one's

00:43:29.120 really jumping

00:43:30.600 up and down

00:43:31.080 saying, yes,

00:43:32.080 someone's human rights

00:43:32.980 are being fundamentally

00:43:33.820 violated because

00:43:34.740 they're not allowed

00:43:35.260 to identify

00:43:36.180 as gender X.

00:43:37.640 That's not really

00:43:38.340 the top.

00:43:39.220 You know,

00:43:39.540 of all the things

00:43:40.520 going on in the world,

00:43:41.380 we've got inflation,

00:43:42.660 we've got a looming

00:43:43.420 recession,

00:43:44.040 we've got a government

00:43:44.860 with out-of-control

00:43:45.560 spending,

00:43:46.380 we have a fundamentally

00:43:47.440 unserious prime minister.

00:43:49.560 You know,

00:43:49.720 for all the things

00:43:50.580 to worry about

00:43:51.420 in Canada,

00:43:53.200 not to mention

00:43:54.080 any of the COVID

00:43:54.780 stuff,

00:43:55.100 I don't think

00:43:56.400 that someone

00:43:57.040 not being able

00:43:57.540 to mark X

00:43:58.160 as gender

00:43:58.640 on a WestJet

00:43:59.500 website is really

00:44:00.680 top of mind

00:44:01.340 to most Canadians.

00:44:02.880 Well,

00:44:02.940 I think that's

00:44:03.360 a good point

00:44:04.100 to end it,

00:44:04.560 Harrison.

00:44:04.860 Thanks for joining

00:44:05.680 Fake News Friday.

00:44:06.240 We're really excited

00:44:06.700 about your new show,

00:44:07.900 Ratioed with Harrison

00:44:08.820 Faulkner,

00:44:09.300 which airs every

00:44:10.140 Thursday here

00:44:10.800 at True North.

00:44:11.440 So, Harrison,

00:44:12.160 great to have you

00:44:12.600 on the show.

00:44:12.940 Thanks for joining us.

00:44:14.120 Thank you,

00:44:14.500 Candice.

00:44:15.460 Hi,

00:44:15.760 that's Harrison Faulkner.

00:44:16.820 I'm Candice Malcolm.

00:44:17.520 It's Fake News Friday

00:44:18.380 on the Candice Malcolm Show.

00:44:19.460 I'm Candice Malcolm.

Juno News - June 10, 2022

Trudeau’s narrative on the use of the Emergencies Act continues to crumble

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