Juno News - True North fact-checks Reuters fact-check

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to you all. It is another Friday which means it's time to swim through

00:00:16.380 the swirling whirlpool of lies and misinformation and media untruths and bias and surrendered

00:00:24.540 objectivity all of these things and curated in a neat little fun package for you. I think

00:00:29.520 it's fun anyway that we call Fake News Friday. I am Andrew Lawton joined as always by Harrison

00:00:35.880 Faulkner host of the fantastic show Ratioed on True North. Harrison big week obviously we had

00:00:42.440 some changes in UK politics we had the Public Order Emergency Commission in Canada but even so

00:00:48.540 we can always rely on the constant of Canadian mainstream media freakouts. Well exactly we've

00:00:54.000 always got that going of course we've got the amazing testimony we're hearing now from the

00:00:58.160 Emergencies Act Commission it's only been week one Andrew we haven't even gotten to the good part

00:01:01.480 yet but it seems as though it's really it's really starting to heat up and and of course

00:01:05.360 we're going to leave with this story but it's it's the fact checkers the mainstream media fact

00:01:10.360 checkers have swooped in to try and clean up their narrative and somehow somewhere along in this whole

00:01:15.520 process True North gets sort of lumped into this fact check so we're going to get into that and it's

00:01:20.380 a pretty interesting story but I think it speaks to just this this this this insistence from legacy

00:01:26.020 media for mainstream mainstream media to fact check things that to to use a fact check to really just

00:01:33.240 push their narrative push their opinion so it's an interesting story and I'm looking forward to kind

00:01:37.800 of dissecting it a little bit. Yeah let's jump right into that now so last week True North shared this

00:01:43.340 exchange from the European Parliament between Dutch MEP Robert Roos and Janine Small of Pfizer.

00:01:51.800 So a question then for you Ms Small where I would like a clear answer please. So there are no

00:01:58.840 misunderstandings. Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus

00:02:08.100 before it entered the market? If not please say it clearly. If yes are you willing to share the data

00:02:17.780 with this committee? And I really want straight answer yes or no and I'm looking forward to it. Thank you very much.

00:02:25.000 Regarding the question around did we know about stopping humanisation before it's entered the market? No.

00:02:34.600 These you know we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place

00:02:40.760 in the market and from that point of view we had to do everything at risk. I think our Dr. Boodla even though

00:02:48.740 is not here would turn around and say to himself if not us then who. Dr. Boodla actually felt the importance

00:02:56.500 of what was going on in the world and therefore as a result of that we actually spent two billion dollars

00:03:04.660 at risk of self-funded money from Pfizer to be able to manufacture as well first of all research develop

00:03:12.500 and manufacture at risk to be able to make sure that we were in a position to be able to help

00:03:18.420 with the pandemic. And I think that's why I feel very good when a recent paper from the Imperial College

00:03:25.700 stated that in the first year of the rollout of vaccines we saved four million people. So from that

00:03:34.260 point of view I feel that actually we were there when the world needed us to be able to make sure that we

00:03:40.980 were able to help people around the world with vaccination as well as now oral treatment.

00:03:47.700 I would hate to imagine what situation we would be in in the world right now if companies like us did

00:03:54.020 not take those risks, did not do clinical research and developments at scale in order to make sure that

00:04:00.660 we could have a vaccine that we could roll out to the world. So I really I understand your frustrations,

00:04:05.860 I really do but I also hope at some point somewhere you also do appreciate what pharmaceutical companies

00:04:12.500 have done in order to be able to roll out and deliver vaccines at such speed and scale.

00:04:17.860 That was a pretty explosive clip. It was Janine Small talking about how Pfizer moved at the speed of

00:04:23.940 science which I believe is faster than the speed of sound, not quite as fast as the speed of light,

00:04:28.980 a little bit slower than superman when he's had a heavy meal even but the executive was saying that

00:04:35.300 Pfizer did not test against transmission so there was no scientific basis for the idea that the vaccine

00:04:42.180 that Pfizer was putting out for COVID would protect you against transmission which means that the basis

00:04:48.740 for vaccine passports which was that we need to make spaces more safe because we need to only ensure 0.68

00:04:55.940 that the vaccinated are able to access them it meant that that was a big huge lie from politicians.

00:05:03.060 So we share this clip now this is about as official as it gets this is a an elected official interviewing

00:05:09.780 in an official capacity an official from a company that has done billions of dollars worth of work on the

00:05:15.540 vaccine file around the world. All of this is to say there is very little about this that is

00:05:21.620 misinformation because we're sharing someone's own words but that didn't stop Reuters from pouncing

00:05:28.340 by putting a fact check here and not just that but saying that True North specifically sharing this

00:05:34.900 clip we weren't the only outlet that did was a bit misinformed perhaps. And so Andrew it's important

00:05:41.620 to just kind of go through this process first off True North often will not share content videos that are

00:05:47.780 not specifically Canadian news related but when this video did come up originally it was first posted

00:05:53.700 by Rob Bruce that MEP as you said and that video has over 13 million views on Twitter and immediately

00:06:00.180 we realized that this kind of blows the lid off of the justification for the mandates placed on

00:06:06.820 Canadians the idea that the vaccine would stop transmission that idea that we are told constantly

00:06:12.500 this is to stop the spread of the virus. Well this testimony from the Pfizer executive in Europe

00:06:18.900 kind of makes it makes the case as though actually no one really knew that to be the case politicians

00:06:22.900 didn't know that so we posted it and I even went through I posted it myself and and I went to great

00:06:28.180 lengths to make sure that I wasn't just copying Rob Bruce's video we went to the original source the

00:06:33.220 European Parliament sort of media center to get this clip making sure that what we were getting was 100%

00:06:38.740 accurate and we don't just throw things up on social media we do we do make sure this this is

00:06:43.060 accurate stuff and of course along comes Reuters and the Reuters fact check is important to go through

00:06:48.500 you would think that a company like Reuters with it with a fact check team like they have they would

00:06:53.780 put together a you know if they were going to attack this video they would try and show the the biggest

00:06:59.460 video the biggest tweets of the video the tweets that got the most traction but it was strange Andrew

00:07:04.340 they didn't do that they shared the original Rob Bruce video then they shared our video from true

00:07:10.580 north they they embedded the video into the article and then they shared a tweet from someone with 18

00:07:16.260 likes copying our video which i just i just thought to be was very to me was very strange like they're

00:07:22.260 trying to make the case as though true north was somehow involved in this we we basically did our own

00:07:26.980 fact check of the fact checkers which i think is quite required these days especially what we're getting

00:07:31.060 from Reuters we did this and we can hang on i've got to call out your misinformation there Harrison

00:07:35.620 it's important to deal with this in real time he has 21 likes on that 21 likes exactly so you're

00:07:42.420 a Reuter i'm i'm sending Reuters to your front door uh for that you were three likes off who knows

00:07:47.380 what else you're getting wrong yeah exactly exactly yeah now we have to go through everything else

00:07:51.780 but the so in our in our fact check of the Reuters fact check what we found was that actually

00:07:57.940 immediately upon Reuters trying to basically label true north video as misleading andrew

00:08:03.860 twitter users from all across the world descended on that Reuters tweet and basically started sharing

00:08:09.220 videos of Albert Bourla the CEO of Pfizer saying exactly that saying that this was going to stop

00:08:15.220 the transmission of the virus this was going to stop the spread of the virus and in one tweet

00:08:19.460 he said the the the booster vaccine had a 100 effectiveness in South Africa at stopping the

00:08:24.980 spread and then of course Pfizer themselves and their official twitter account they also were

00:08:29.380 telling people that the the virus was stopping transmission of the virus the vaccine was stopping

00:08:34.820 transmission of the virus contradictory to what the Pfizer executive said uh in European parliament so

00:08:40.660 this all just i think goes to show you that for so long for the past two three years andrew

00:08:46.420 we've been getting fact checks from Reuters from AP they also got in on this we've been getting fact

00:08:51.220 checks from them which only really uphold a narrative they don't actually tell us or tell can tell tell

00:08:56.580 people what was what is wrong about a video nowhere do they say true north was wrong all they do is

00:09:01.860 say this is misleading so to me it's actually very sinister that we have fact checkers coming in that are

00:09:07.460 pushing a narrative and aren't actually just telling us what's true and what's false i don't want to

00:09:11.380 hear narratives i want to hear the facts from a fact checker turns out maybe maybe Andrew we should

00:09:15.940 start doing our own fact check i i brought this up maybe we should hire our own fact checker at true

00:09:20.420 north to do exactly this yeah but then you end up in like an endless cycle of fact checking i i want

00:09:27.140 to show a a tweet here alexandra marshall who's a great writer with the spectator in australia she

00:09:33.940 wrote a column in which she took aim at fact checking and she said our fact checkers liars and it was an

00:09:40.260 opinion piece in which she talked about the uh errors and misinformation that we see in the

00:09:45.780 fact checking process and just like clockwork on facebook she gets the fact checking sticker on

00:09:52.100 there missing context independent fact checkers say this information could mislead people right above

00:09:58.180 the headline of the article which is our fact checkers liars so you can't fact check the fact checkers

00:10:03.460 because then they fact check your fact check of the fact checking and eventually we're just all fact

00:10:07.700 checked uh endlessly until we die it's like the police in canada doing the daily background check

00:10:13.860 of gun owners now we're just going to get like the daily fact check and uh people on the right are going

00:10:18.820 to be accused of misinformation people on the left are going to get a pass but it's been particularly

00:10:25.140 insidious on the covet file because as we've seen and i've joked about this in some ways yesterday's

00:10:31.140 misinformation is today's government press release so the thing that's misinformation now

00:10:36.980 we're kind of flipping it a bit because now they're saying no no no no no one ever claimed

00:10:41.700 it prevented transmission it's like this big huge gaslighting of the population here when

00:10:46.900 that was the entire basis of the government's mandates of vaccines exactly i mean we how many

00:10:53.620 times andrew did we hear justin trudeau during the federal campaign for example using this issue

00:10:59.060 to wedge canadians to divide the unvaccinated and to specifically say multiple times for example when he

00:11:04.980 famously said if you don't want to get vaccinated that's your choice but don't think you can get on

00:11:09.300 a plane or a train beside vaccinated people and put them at risk now you would assume that because 0.87

00:11:14.980 of that that would mean that the the vaccine stops the spread of the virus if you're vaccinated you won't

00:11:19.380 put others at risk because you're not you're going to stop the spread of the virus that's just that

00:11:24.740 that just exactly points to this idea that you know we can we can be led a narrative andrew for a

00:11:29.940 whole year and then immediately when it starts to crumble fact checkers can come in and totally

00:11:34.660 shift the window and basically say no no it was actually never required the the manufacturers were

00:11:39.780 never required to test the vaccine for stopping transmission before politicians told us it would

00:11:44.820 and before politicians enacted these horribly divisive policies and we write in the fact because

00:11:50.580 it's important to just make it clear that i think of course without being of course we are biased

00:11:55.300 ourselves to our own to our own uh to our own company but our fact check kind of labels it clearly

00:12:00.340 what's what's been going on here so we write this reuters assertion that pfizer never claimed that

00:12:04.500 their original submissions to regulators included tests for transmission appears to be accurate but

00:12:09.460 their own fact check is misleading because it entirely ignores the fact that political and public

00:12:13.620 discussions about the vaccines were often driven by the incorrect assumption that the vaccines would

00:12:18.180 halt transmission exact that's exactly what we're talking about here that's really where the fact

00:12:22.980 checkers should be coming in on this but it seems as though there's some sort of there's some sort of

00:12:27.300 collected interest they want to try and defend the manufacturers against what is what is explosive

00:12:32.980 testimony to use that word again this was this this took the internet by storm because people were

00:12:38.180 rightly upset and i think you know it it ends up falling on true north it ends up falling on other

00:12:43.860 media companies andrew to try and get these videos out there because it appears as though reuters they're

00:12:48.740 supposed to be a wire service they're not gonna they're not gonna write news about this yeah and that's why we

00:12:52.900 share the raw footage as often because i want i mean for my own benefit but also for everyone else to

00:12:57.780 see the source of it to see where we're getting the information so you don't need to filter your

00:13:02.180 version of reality through through someone else's filter so in any case i i gotta really segue naturally

00:13:09.220 into speaking of filters the public order emergency commission now you've been covering this on ratioed

00:13:14.420 i've been covering it on the andrew lawton show rupa subramania has been covering it on her show our

00:13:19.460 news coverage so for the next six weeks now there's going to be a lot of public order emergency

00:13:24.500 commission content but i i think there's a particular level of interest that i have about the way the media

00:13:32.580 is approaching this and sometimes two people can look at the same story and come up with wildly

00:13:38.500 different conclusions and i'll give you one example here before we get into it cbc has a headline opp

00:13:44.980 intelligence warned of potential ottawa mass protests two weeks before convoy so what they're

00:13:51.300 saying is that the intelligence bureau flagged a mass anti-government protest so that was fair enough

00:13:58.340 we know there was a protest i don't know if it was accurate to call it anti-government i think it was

00:14:02.420 anti the liberal government but then you look further and the story that they've buried in there

00:14:08.180 is that opp intelligence found for the entirety of the convoy no evidence of violence no evidence

00:14:15.300 of extremism no evidence of insurrection no evidence of any of these things shouldn't that be the story

00:14:21.140 rather than the opp learned about the protest two weeks before it happened i guess not no andrew and

00:14:27.140 we've seen this we've seen this so often and again this this speaks exactly to why i think true north

00:14:32.740 and other media outlets who are covering this why people go to our coverage because they know

00:14:37.220 exactly what they're going to get from the cbc from the toronto star you you took that headline from

00:14:42.420 the cbc regarding the opp intelligence officers testimony well just take a look at this this is the

00:14:47.940 this is the way that the toronto star wrote about revelations that cesus told the government

00:14:54.260 from the very beginning there was no intelligence that the convo was being foreign funded right there

00:15:00.260 was no there was no idea that there was no intelligence that said there there's foreign

00:15:04.420 interference in the in the donations of the convoy the toronto star took that information

00:15:08.900 and of course in their usual way they sculpted and architected this this this this ridiculous headline 0.91

00:15:14.740 that basically goes on to just state that it doesn't matter these these guys were horrible

00:15:19.220 already that it doesn't matter there's no there's no information that can convince us otherwise the

00:15:22.580 toronto star headline was this freedom convoy didn't need help from foreigners to overwhelm ottawa police

00:15:28.340 inquiry told october 18th andrew it's it's actually a skill i have to take my hat off to some of these

00:15:35.220 legacy media reporters for finding you know for seeing information that is so damaging to their

00:15:39.460 narrative so so it's so destructive to this narrative they've tried to craft for the whole year

00:15:44.980 and then find a way to still spin it to make themselves you know put themselves in the right

00:15:50.260 position to find a way to still spin it to make these truckers these protesters who now we know

00:15:55.940 had no there was no intelligence of violence from the very beginning so these these peaceful canadian

00:16:01.140 truckers the media are so skilled at finding ways to to maintain that narrative that they'll never

00:16:06.980 give it up andrew there's no i don't think there's really any piece of evidence that will come out from

00:16:11.300 these commission hearings where we'll get we'll get global news we'll get global mail or the toronto star

00:16:16.260 to write that to write this to write this basically accurately they're always going to stick to their

00:16:21.300 narrative um you know and and globe the globe and mail to their credit they just took they just took

00:16:28.180 that information and wrote the headline i i think accurately ceases found no foreign actors funding

00:16:33.460 the convoy protests according to inquiry evidence right that's how you should write the story but of

00:16:38.260 course the toronto star we know what we're going to get from them they're going to spin it religiously

00:16:41.780 they are they are absolutely stuck to this narrative no matter what comes from the commission hearings

00:16:46.980 i i should say like there's nothing inaccurate about what the toronto star wrote in its headline

00:16:52.580 freedom convoy didn't need help from foreigners to overwhelm ottawa police well no that's technically

00:16:57.620 true i mean the headline could also be you know freedom convoy didn't murder 17 people in the street

00:17:03.460 like so it's the place it's coming from that i find is noteworthy because they're the ones that

00:17:08.340 implied there was foreign influence they're the ones that implied there was foreign funding so when

00:17:13.060 they're saying they didn't need the help it's like there were a bunch of russians on sussex street

00:17:17.380 that were like offering their assistance and then the freedom convoy said yeah we're all good but but

00:17:22.100 no it's like it just didn't exist and it just wasn't there so it is fascinating and and it's becoming

00:17:27.540 a bit of a rorschach exercise where everyone's looking at these commissions and somehow just drawing

00:17:32.740 their own sort of narrative affirming uh conclusions from it and the toronto star is is one example

00:17:39.540 here and i i think just interestingly enough when jim watson talks about this everything he says

00:17:46.500 is just bordering on on unhinged if not going straight beyond into that and one particular

00:17:53.300 one here he talks about losing control he talks about similar to zexy lee from last week the purge like

00:18:00.580 mentality he talks about just how dire things were and so you recall you had a discussion with the prime

00:18:06.820 minister on this day yeah i'm just looking for my notes it's february can zoom into that yeah february

00:18:12.500 eight yeah thank you that's right and uh we'll go down to them to the kind of the meat of it

00:18:19.540 yes a little bit down more there we go sorry i'm not seeing it on the 8th on my chronology

00:18:27.780 but if you have it i'll believe you uh yes it should be on the screen there february 8

00:18:32.580 uh a call read out of the call with the prime minister and if we go to the second page

00:18:40.340 yeah you say uh well the prime minister asks how you're doing you say a challenge for anyone everyone

00:18:46.260 still a pretty unstable situation nasty people out there that just don't represent canada reminds me

00:18:51.460 of the republican party down south can't reason with them so vulgar and hateful attacking people

00:18:56.180 ripping masks off honking their horns it's not over yet and i appreciate just you might slow down a bit for the

00:19:02.260 interpreters i'm just uh okay sorry i'm just aware of the time but yes you're right let's slow down for

00:19:08.340 the interpreters um it's not over yet and i appreciate that i had a really good conversation

00:19:15.620 with marco and bill we have a table with the pt this afternoon at 4 30. lawlessness well that's

00:19:22.180 terrible how does he define lawlessness as you just heard people were having parties yeah andrew like

00:19:29.780 like like the dance parties i think at some point also he said the dance parties and raves stole

00:19:35.060 the neighborhoods away from ottawa residents now again i i i was on the ground there you were too

00:19:40.980 correct me if i'm wrong but i only think that there were dance parties and raves so-called dance parties

00:19:44.900 and raves uh on wellington street and from what i know of ottawa i don't live in ottawa but from what

00:19:49.700 i know don't don't so called it there were dance there was dancing morning tonight there were and i was

00:19:54.820 part of this i was inside some of those you're doing the mainstream media thing so-called the

00:19:58.900 so-called freedom combo by gosh it was a real dance party you're you're exactly right it was a real

00:20:06.100 dance party i'm only trying to return the favor on the media they as you said they always use the

00:20:10.820 word so-called freedom convoy well we'll just we'll just return that right back but of course they were

00:20:16.020 only on wellington street i'm pretty sure andrew and last i checked again i'm not from ottawa but last

00:20:20.420 i checked there are no residents who live on wellington it's a non-residential street that's

00:20:24.180 beside the point but i want to just kind of go back to this cbc article uh that was published on

00:20:29.060 thursday talking about the opp intelligence warning of potential ottawa mass protests two weeks before

00:20:34.820 convoy that's what they wrote and true north's article on this said opp officer says no intel of

00:20:41.380 convoy violence and and i think if you were watching this anyone would really realize that the opp

00:20:47.540 intelligence officer pat morris his testimony was the news of the day that was for sure what

00:20:52.420 overshadowed the previous uh city councilors testimony it's just it is alarming to me andrew

00:20:58.980 that the legacy media like i said before they are committed to one side of this and maybe we maybe you

00:21:05.540 could say that we're committed to the other side of it but in my opinion we we're filling a very

00:21:09.940 important need here because like you said you have two outlets looking at the same story hearing the same

00:21:15.940 testimony and coming to vastly different conclusions vastly different conclusions

00:21:21.460 i think at the end of the day it's good for it's good for the canadian media landscape that we do

00:21:25.620 have alternative points of view on this but it does it does does speak to me that i don't think

00:21:31.940 we're going to see in my opinion fair impartial balanced coverage from the legacy media throughout

00:21:37.940 this throughout this hearing we have five more weeks of this andrew we've got a long way to go

00:21:42.340 justin trudeau still to testify the senior members of the cabinet still to testify and quant and convoy

00:21:47.220 leadership as well so it's going to be it's going to be more important as we go further in this

00:21:52.100 process and i'm just hoping that we're going to we're going to try and get some better coverage here

00:21:56.900 from the legacy media because right now it's been it's been horrendous no checks on some of these

00:22:02.260 outlandish statements no real coverage on the fact that the the city councilors were calling trucks

00:22:07.460 weapons and that the mayor viewed the truckers before they even arrived right when they first

00:22:12.340 arrived in ottawa as un canadian and as like republicans from down south i mean this guy had

00:22:18.100 it out for the truckers from the very start clearly and i think that that is worth coverage but we're

00:22:23.060 not going to get it no i don't think so but any coverage we do get we'll have to wait until next

00:22:28.020 weekend because the members of the parliamentary press gallery have a bit of a party coming up on

00:22:32.180 saturday they're doing the annual parliamentary press gallery dinner which is basically canada's

00:22:38.660 imitation of the gridiron club thing where you have journalists and politicians that are supposed

00:22:44.020 to kick back and relax and have fun and make fun of each other themselves this was where that great

00:22:49.860 photo of andrew shear chugging a one liter carton of milk came from making fun of his relentless support

00:22:55.700 for supply management so it's a decent enough event but at a certain point you have to decide if you

00:23:00.740 want to just rub shoulders with the people that despise you and pierre polyev for whatever reason

00:23:05.860 decided he would break with tradition and not attend the parliamentary press gallery dinner this

00:23:11.060 weekend so what's happening here is that there's no reason provided uh polyev's office just said i'm

00:23:18.820 not going to go to or he's not going to go to it uh stephen harper went when he was an opposition

00:23:23.780 leader but didn't go when he was prime minister so that was a pretty much a 10-year period

00:23:29.220 pierre polyev has had one media availability since he became the conservative leader and that was when

00:23:35.540 david aiken just started like verbally pummeling him for reasons that i i can't even remember he's

00:23:40.580 not done to my knowledge any sit-down interviews he didn't do a lot of legacy media interviews during

00:23:46.260 the leadership race so he's kind of just sticking to what's been working for him and we can all sort

00:23:52.100 of raise questions about whether that is the right course of action or the wrong course of action

00:23:56.900 but i'll say that it's his choice to make and i i don't get this mainstream media freak out

00:24:01.940 about it just because he's not going to play in their sandbox with them well andrew i kind of get

00:24:06.260 the mainstream media freak out because they're looking for anything they can get on pierre polyev

00:24:10.340 right we know exactly that anything that comes anything that could be even even the the idea that

00:24:15.940 a headline can be made about it that a negative headline can be made about it well they're going to

00:24:19.140 write it right any any opportunity they get to try and slander pierre polyev to try and paint the

00:24:24.740 conservative leader as uh as a negative populist far-right figure they're going to do it and

00:24:30.100 remember at these parliamentary press gallery dinners that was also where justin trudeau made

00:24:36.500 the joke about how he gets such favorable headlines from the media how he gets how because he pays them

00:24:41.540 what over 600 million dollars that number has gone up by now i'm pretty sure because he pays them that

00:24:46.340 much money of course he gets favorable media coverage no wonder it's turned out so favorable for

00:24:51.300 justin trudeau no wonder we're seeing the coverage we're getting from the commission hearings after

00:24:55.860 justin trudeau basically paid the media off to to write favorable headlines for him that's what he said

00:25:00.420 at that at this dinner a few years back and again i don't blame pierre polyev for not attending this

00:25:06.900 dinner i think actually you know shaking things up with me with the media in ottawa is a good thing they

00:25:11.700 need to kind of realize that conservatives are not just going to pick up the baton and continue this

00:25:16.260 sort of this sort of you know cash you know give give money to the media for favorable headlines that

00:25:22.100 that needs to stop um but i will say i i i think that pierre polyev can do better uh with with with

00:25:29.780 reaching out to media specifically independent media look if you're not going to engage with the cbc

00:25:34.340 global news globe and mail i understand that clearly when he tried to david aiken heckled him uh and

00:25:40.420 acted like a child so if you're not going to do that i do think the opposition leader should be speaking to

00:25:46.020 canadians as much as possible and doing that through the media as much as possible it doesn't

00:25:50.100 have to be exclusively through the media he has a larger social media platform than a lot of these

00:25:54.100 other journalists but i would like to see him engage with like with independent media more often i think

00:25:59.700 that would be a that would be a real shake up to the media in ottawa that would really signal to the

00:26:04.580 legacy media that things are changing and a government under pierre polyev is not just going to continue

00:26:09.620 this this sort of love affair with the legacy media that would i think that would be a good thing but

00:26:14.580 again like i said this is this is a this is a nothing story the media will always try and take

00:26:18.900 it because it's an opportunity to bash conservatives yeah i will say just in in closing on this i i think

00:26:24.740 that he probably should put himself in front of media more and i think the david aiken situation is

00:26:30.100 great i think he won that week because i think he really exposed the media and their approach to him

00:26:35.300 and i think he held his own and and the point that i've made on my show and and to people that are

00:26:40.420 working in the orbit of pierre polyev of the past is that if you trust your candidate

00:26:44.340 to be able to answer and handle it i'd put him out there and then get the clip from it show canadians

00:26:48.980 what's happening because when you don't engage that becomes the story whereas when you engage they

00:26:54.420 show their hand and you slap back i think that becomes a much better story but i'm sure we'll have

00:26:59.060 lots of opportunities for that in the months and years to come harrison faulkner you can catch him

00:27:04.500 at the show ratioed every week you can catch me at the andrew lawton show and both of us you can

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