Juno News - February 07, 2019


True North Report: Another sanctuary city in Canada?


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30 minutes

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166.02002

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5,035

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281

Misogynist Sentences

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21


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Transcript

00:00:00.080 Good afternoon, Canada. Welcome to the True North Report. My name is Andrew Lawton, a fellow with the True North Initiative,
00:00:07.940 and one who is going to be walking you through some of the ways that this week your rights and freedoms are being put on the back burner by the government of the day.
00:00:19.640 All governments of the day, municipal and federal particularly, but you have to look at government as being an agent of picking and choosing
00:00:27.920 whose rights matter more than whose rights with some of the policies that we see coming forward.
00:00:33.880 I'm going to be talking about that theme in this particular edition of True North Report broadcasting live on Facebook.
00:00:39.720 If you are tuning in, let me know where it is from which you are tuning in. Say hello.
00:00:44.740 If you have any questions, comments, I'm going to read as many of these as I can as the show goes on.
00:00:49.480 I've got one angry face from Doug Fulton.
00:00:52.620 I'm going to hope that it's an angry face at what governments are doing, not an angry face at the fact that I'm on your Facebook.
00:00:59.220 But you know what? We welcome all. We welcome all criticism or something like that, tugging the collar.
00:01:04.560 In any case, I hope you're having a great and hopefully not too frigid day wherever you are.
00:01:09.580 The fact remains that whenever we talk about illegal immigration, which is something we do a lot with True North,
00:01:18.300 you get the very predictable knee-jerk reactions from the left.
00:01:22.160 You get people like the immigration minister, Ahmed Hassan, saying that critics are un-Canadian.
00:01:28.120 You get Gerald Butts, the principal advisor to Trudeau, throwing around the accusation of racism.
00:01:33.100 You have all of this stuff happening with a fair bit of regularity.
00:01:38.700 And what the liberals have done, and I don't just mean the Liberal Party with a capital L, but small L liberals,
00:01:45.520 what progressives, what people on the left have done is they've reshaped the immigration debate in Canada
00:01:51.420 and all across North America, not just Canada.
00:01:54.560 They've reshaped it so that everyone in positions of leadership, be they politicians, people in media, people in academia,
00:02:03.760 refuse to acknowledge illegal immigration as being illegal.
00:02:08.640 And I know that this is something I've talked about.
00:02:10.800 Candace Malcolm has talked about this a fair bit.
00:02:13.200 The dishonesty inherent in irregular immigration.
00:02:16.600 But the fact is that the discussions around it have really laid the groundwork for these so-called sanctuary city policies.
00:02:25.900 And if you don't know, I'll give you the 30-second backstory.
00:02:28.600 A sanctuary city is a municipal government that aims to be a sanctuary for people regardless of status.
00:02:37.180 And again, this is something that falls into that category of dishonesty.
00:02:40.880 They say regardless of status or non-status or whatever the case may be, what they mean is illegal.
00:02:48.860 When you talk about someone being undocumented, when you talk about someone not having status,
00:02:53.940 because in my world, not having status means you don't get to go to the good fancy club on Bloor Street.
00:02:58.680 Not having status means you don't get invited to the VIP lounge.
00:03:02.040 Not having a status means you're driving a, I don't know, like some old Ford Pinto or something instead of a Lamborghini.
00:03:08.140 But no, non-status means you do not have the legal status to be in the country.
00:03:13.580 You are in the country in violation of the law.
00:03:17.600 But by calling it non-status, we get to muddy the concept around what illegal immigration actually is.
00:03:25.340 So a sanctuary city policy is a policy where non-status people have the same access to municipal services that everyone else does.
00:03:33.180 So if I were a non-status person in London, Ontario, and London, Ontario were a sanctuary city,
00:03:40.540 what the advocates of sanctuary city policy say is that I as an illegal immigrant or as a non-status person should be able to get a library card,
00:03:49.960 the same as a citizen can, or should be allowed to ride the bus the same as a citizen can.
00:03:54.740 And by the way, I don't think that illegals should necessarily be denied a library card.
00:04:00.540 I don't think that illegal immigrants should be told they can't ride the city bus.
00:04:04.400 I don't think that illegal immigrants should be in the country, either come here legally or get deported.
00:04:09.420 But if there are some there, I don't think a city needs to become the chief enforcer of immigration law.
00:04:15.600 But when you look at some of the other services that municipalities are supposed to give,
00:04:22.520 you've got a few that stand out, particularly in Ontario.
00:04:26.120 Number one is welfare.
00:04:28.640 Welfare in Ontario is a provincial program, but it's the municipalities that are tasked to distribute welfare.
00:04:36.240 So all of a sudden, people who are here illegally cannot be discriminated against through this municipal service.
00:04:43.580 Another big one is housing.
00:04:44.900 If you are on a subsidized housing waitlist, you are on a waitlist through your municipal government.
00:04:51.680 The municipality, the city government does the vetting, does the investigation, finds the house,
00:04:57.300 and then pays for as much of that house as they are going to subsidize.
00:05:02.720 But if you have a sanctuary city, all of a sudden, illegal immigrants are taking up space in publicly subsidized housing
00:05:12.040 because the cities are saying we do not want to discriminate against non-status individuals.
00:05:18.040 And the reason I give you this backstory here is so you understand the stakes when cities continue to talk about this policy.
00:05:27.240 Now, London, Ontario, the example I gave, my own city, had a discussion about it maybe a year ago.
00:05:33.220 It was before the municipal elections in the fall.
00:05:37.200 And what happened was everyone said, yeah, this is airy-fairy concept.
00:05:41.000 They thought that by making London a sanctuary city, they were actually just saying we're a nice, fun, happy place.
00:05:46.500 And once they looked into the details, a lot of councillors said we don't want anything to do with this and ended up voting against it.
00:05:54.960 But then you look at the latest story out of Windsor, where a panel has tried to and is succeeding,
00:06:01.300 because CBC is picking it up, at sparking a discussion on making Windsor, Ontario a sanctuary city.
00:06:08.680 They're advocating for what's called an access without fear policy.
00:06:14.160 And this is, again, the dishonesty of this discussion.
00:06:18.820 They frame it not in terms of we are going to disregard the rule of law or we don't care about illegal immigrants,
00:06:25.240 we don't care about immigration status at all.
00:06:27.640 They say without fear that it is now incumbent on us as the law-abiding citizens
00:06:33.000 to ameliorate the fear that non-law-abiding citizens have.
00:06:38.680 So they're trying to bring an access without fear policy to Windsor.
00:06:44.160 And they're looking for a made-in-Windsor solution.
00:06:49.420 Now, this is hosted by the Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers, which has a Windsor chapter.
00:06:55.240 And they view that Windsor is particularly important here on the front line of immigration and asylum protection
00:07:02.580 because of proximity to the border.
00:07:06.020 Now, I want to give you some numbers here that I find interesting.
00:07:10.280 Windsor, which has been a, it used to be smaller than London.
00:07:13.140 They're about two hours apart, but Windsor is right at the Detroit crossing.
00:07:16.840 Windsor used to be smaller.
00:07:18.020 Now it has as many or more people than London, I think in the 360,000 range.
00:07:22.480 And of the Windsor population, 25%, according to the Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers, are immigrants.
00:07:31.160 So one quarter of the population are themselves immigrants.
00:07:35.320 Not this vague, the child of immigrants, the descendants of immigrants, but are actually themselves immigrants.
00:07:40.320 One quarter of the city.
00:07:41.280 And that may not seem like much of a big deal, but 40% of those are apparently refugees, which is fine.
00:07:50.500 If Windsor has a population and an infrastructure that can sustain legal immigrants and legal refugees and asylum seekers,
00:07:58.640 I don't think anyone particularly cares.
00:08:00.600 I certainly don't, but what it does mean is that they're now trying to glorify illegal immigration
00:08:07.660 so that anyone should be able to just cross illegally from Detroit to Windsor.
00:08:13.720 And that's the first city they're going to come across.
00:08:15.840 It's one of the busiest border crossings in North America.
00:08:18.880 And that Windsor is not going to be able to do a dang thing about it.
00:08:23.000 Windsor should just give them everything they want.
00:08:25.000 Put them on social assistance.
00:08:26.400 Give them publicly subsidized housing.
00:08:28.460 Give them the library card.
00:08:29.540 Give them the bus pass.
00:08:30.980 And one of the big question marks about sanctuary city policies as well, and no one's been able to answer this for me,
00:08:38.140 is whether they preclude municipal law enforcement from reporting people they encounter who are illegal immigrants
00:08:45.320 to the Canada Border Services Agency.
00:08:48.280 Because in the U.S., in sanctuary cities, what happens is you will actually get the protection of illegal immigrants,
00:08:56.720 the protection of illegal immigrants from local law enforcement, if there's a sanctuary city policy, they will not report people to ICE.
00:09:04.380 Whereas in Canada, policing falls into this weird hybrid, there are municipal police departments, but a lot of the regulations and oversight are provincial.
00:09:14.520 So, theoretically, in a sanctuary city policy, and certainly in the sanctuary city utopia that advocates of these policies want to put forward,
00:09:23.780 if, you know, if Joe the illegal immigrant in Windsor breaks the law and police find him, they're not allowed to say to CBSA,
00:09:32.140 hey, we found Joe the illegal immigrant, you guys probably want to know, here he is, this is his address.
00:09:37.020 So, we have this dilemma here, where sanctuary cities don't just inadvertently ignore the law, but by their very design, refute and reject the law.
00:09:51.940 That is what sanctuary cities policies do.
00:09:55.440 And these policies are becoming more and more common, not just in small, you know, little podunk towns,
00:10:01.840 like, you know, rural, rural Saskatchewan says, you know, we're a sanctuary city, no, in big cities.
00:10:07.480 You know, I'm looking, there's not really a definitive list of what the sanctuary cities are,
00:10:13.660 but I was pulling some of the stories that have come up, and this is all in the last two or three years.
00:10:20.640 Montreal is certainly the largest, or one of the largest.
00:10:24.460 Toronto has done it as well.
00:10:26.660 Hamilton has done it.
00:10:28.320 And Edmonton has done it.
00:10:29.800 And I don't think Calgary has, but I know it's been discussed there.
00:10:34.220 But you've got these giant urban centers in Canada that are saying, we are going to ignore the law.
00:10:44.440 And again, we're not just talking about library cards here.
00:10:48.140 What we're talking about are fundamental policies that take services away from law-abiding people,
00:10:55.020 including, by the way, many law-abiding immigrants.
00:10:56.920 You know, you take some, you know, Chechen family that was escaping persecution,
00:11:04.120 and you transpose them to Windsor, Ontario, and they're on a waiting list for housing for whatever reason.
00:11:09.540 And now they can't get their housing because the illegal immigrant jumped the line,
00:11:13.700 because he jumped the line in the immigration system itself.
00:11:16.740 So the people that do what they're supposed to do are penalized,
00:11:21.560 which therefore encourages more people to break the rules.
00:11:25.220 And I want to read some of the comments here, because you've got Rhonda who writes,
00:11:30.580 well, our veterans and homeless are on the streets.
00:11:34.080 Yeah, exactly.
00:11:35.080 This is where any time you can look at money being spent on someone who should not be getting it,
00:11:40.440 you have to look at where that money is not going.
00:11:42.460 Corey says very succinctly, this is just stupid.
00:11:46.460 Elise writes, how could the city mayor accept this,
00:11:49.260 knowing it's going to cost the taxpayers lots of money?
00:11:53.060 Well, let me clarify once again, and for those just tuning in,
00:11:57.160 Windsor has not yet made itself a sanctuary city.
00:12:00.700 It's exploring it.
00:12:01.960 There's an advocacy group that's mobilizing, that's trying to make a push.
00:12:05.200 And the one thing that makes this really important to watch is that the people who have had this discussion,
00:12:12.120 the cities that have had this discussion,
00:12:14.940 I've not known of any to reject it or to not push it further down the pipes.
00:12:20.560 So I'm driving this now, even if you don't care about Windsor,
00:12:23.320 I'm driving this discussion now so you understand why it is that these things need to be fought against.
00:12:29.020 And I want to read for you here a section from the Canadian Labour Congress's website.
00:12:34.540 Canadian Labour Congress, very far left group,
00:12:37.060 they have a huge project in their organization,
00:12:40.960 wherein they advocate for cities to adopt sanctuary policies.
00:12:46.420 And if you read the policy proposal that's put forward by the Canadian Labour Congress,
00:12:52.540 it is absolutely chilling.
00:12:54.620 And again, listen to the language.
00:12:56.040 There are an estimated 200,000 to 500,000 non-status migrants in Canada.
00:13:03.860 Non-status migrants may include, but are not limited to,
00:13:08.360 people who have had their status revoked, been coerced by traffickers,
00:13:12.680 or have had their refugee claim denied.
00:13:15.700 Many have experienced conflict, violence, persecution, and human rights violations.
00:13:20.900 Non-status migrants are seeking asylum in Canadian municipalities
00:13:24.520 and municipalities can and must respond.
00:13:29.380 So right there, every illegal immigrant is a victim.
00:13:33.280 Every illegal immigrant to the Canadian Labour Congress is a victim.
00:13:36.620 They've been coerced, they've had their, well, why have they had their refugee claim denied?
00:13:40.080 Because they didn't have a genuine leg to stand on.
00:13:42.660 Why have they had their status revoked?
00:13:44.380 Because they broke the rules.
00:13:45.760 If they were genuinely fleeing conflict, violence, persecution, and human rights violations,
00:13:51.500 they would have had a legal path to entry in Canada.
00:13:55.540 But here's what the CLC says.
00:13:57.960 In Canada, non-status migrants live and work in profound and constant fear.
00:14:05.180 If they are detected, detained, and deported by immigration officers,
00:14:09.220 their lives and families will be uprooted,
00:14:11.580 and their chance to be part of our communities and country destroyed.
00:14:15.820 Social isolation and ever-present fear of detection and deportation
00:14:20.520 makes them an invisible population in our communities
00:14:23.540 and can take a very heavy toll on their physical and mental health.
00:14:30.680 Again, you cannot frame illegal immigrants in their totality as victims.
00:14:36.780 Because, quite frankly, these people, if they have a genuine leg to stand on,
00:14:42.900 must go through legal channels.
00:14:44.880 And this is the same thing that can be said about those who are crossing illegally
00:14:48.060 at Roxham Road into Canada.
00:14:49.640 But let's compound these two stories here.
00:14:51.980 If you have the Roxham Road freeway for illegal immigrants into Canada,
00:14:57.060 and you have this network of cities across the country
00:14:59.880 that have said very proudly they will turn a blind eye to illegal immigration,
00:15:04.300 you have a network for Canada to completely lose control of its immigration system.
00:15:11.280 And we already see this happening.
00:15:13.180 And remember how we could demonstrably see Justin Trudeau's
00:15:16.300 welcome to Canada tweet as having a link and people going to Roxham Road
00:15:20.940 and saying, all right, I guess I've got a place in Canada.
00:15:23.440 Well, you also have to look at what sanctuary cities do.
00:15:26.380 Because every city that says we are a sanctuary city
00:15:29.240 is doing basically the same thing as Justin Trudeau's tweet did.
00:15:32.820 They're looking at everyone in the world that wants to break the rules
00:15:36.060 and saying, we are a safe place for you.
00:15:40.500 And it is the residents that suffer.
00:15:43.200 It's the law-abiding, tax-paying residents who suffer.
00:15:45.900 Because remember, if you're there illegally, you're not paying taxes.
00:15:49.520 If you're there illegally, you're not doing all of the things
00:15:52.260 that go into contributing to making your mark in a country.
00:15:56.980 But you are taking, you're taking it.
00:16:00.300 And you've got a protocol for illegal immigrants to get free health care.
00:16:04.420 You've got a protocol for, in sanctuary cities, illegal immigrants to be on welfare,
00:16:09.040 to get subsidized housing.
00:16:10.920 I mean, that's the one that really bugs me.
00:16:12.820 Because housing is already in short supply.
00:16:16.680 Housing is in such short supply that now you have people that are literally taking spaces
00:16:23.260 that we do not have who don't belong in the country.
00:16:27.920 And when you look at the Canadian Labour Congress saying,
00:16:30.280 oh, but look at all the things that illegal immigrants contribute and offer.
00:16:34.300 Here's what they say.
00:16:35.340 A sanctuary city serves all residents.
00:16:38.480 They are consistent with charter-protected rights
00:16:40.920 to equality and security of the person.
00:16:46.480 And are also in accordance with international human rights obligations.
00:16:49.720 Non-status migrants and their families' lives involve municipal services
00:16:55.400 such as recreational programs, libraries, child care, emergency shelters,
00:17:00.000 public health, food banks, transportation, and police services.
00:17:04.860 And police services.
00:17:06.120 This is what they say.
00:17:07.320 It provides protection to non-status migrants with don't ask, don't tell policies
00:17:12.880 by city service providers, police, and transit enforcement.
00:17:17.500 So this proposal, which goes further than some of the other ones I've seen,
00:17:22.640 goes on to say that you should not only be able to, you know, go to the Y or go to the library,
00:17:27.560 but also access child care, health services, and police services
00:17:33.260 without ever having to worry about your status being reported to the authorities.
00:17:38.400 And I wonder why we have a CBSA.
00:17:40.480 Why do we even have a CBSA if it's apparent that we are not supposed to deport illegal immigrants?
00:17:46.360 Because what sanctuary city advocates say is that we should be a country without borders.
00:17:53.660 We should be a country without laws, and we should be a country without citizenship.
00:17:58.660 And I know that it's easy to respond to sanctuary city policies and say,
00:18:03.420 I object to that.
00:18:04.600 I don't like it.
00:18:05.380 And trust me, I think that's completely justifiable.
00:18:07.640 But you have to look at precisely why they are so sinister.
00:18:12.560 Because the implication of these is that your Canadian citizenship should mean nothing.
00:18:19.180 Because you are, as a Canadian citizen, supposed to have access to the same services
00:18:24.320 as Joe Illegal, who walked across the border and set up camp in Windsor,
00:18:28.840 or in Montreal, or in Toronto.
00:18:32.060 That you are supposed to have access to the same services if you're the illegal
00:18:36.220 than you are if you have citizenship and status.
00:18:41.580 And this means that the border is irrelevant.
00:18:43.780 It means that the citizenship program is irrelevant.
00:18:46.280 It means that the taxpayers are irrelevant.
00:18:49.140 It means that all of these people that have contributed to making Canada what it is,
00:18:53.140 cease to matter in this liberal utopia of what a Canada without borders,
00:18:59.620 a post-national Canada, really is.
00:19:02.380 David writes in the Facebook chat,
00:19:04.340 I learned a new term, anarcho-tyranny.
00:19:06.800 Describes the situation where a population gets it from both sides.
00:19:10.520 The anarchy of uncontrolled crime and open borders,
00:19:13.240 and the tyranny of having the rules applied more stringently to the law-abiding citizens
00:19:17.360 than to anyone else.
00:19:19.140 Janelle writes,
00:19:20.160 Ah, but all of our human rights get pushed to the side for the benefits,
00:19:23.960 for their benefits.
00:19:25.420 Tom Prince writes,
00:19:26.820 One-way door.
00:19:27.720 Yeah, I mean illegal immigration should be a one-way door.
00:19:30.120 If you're caught, you're out.
00:19:32.120 If your first act of entering a country is lawlessness,
00:19:35.480 how can we expect that your second, third, fourth, and 27th acts are going to be any better?
00:19:40.680 Rhonda writes,
00:19:41.760 Trudeau is bankrupting Canada.
00:19:43.640 We cannot afford to finance illegal immigrants.
00:19:46.920 Our healthcare system will fail.
00:19:49.140 You know, I want to go back to what David wrote about the rules apply more stringently
00:19:54.360 to law-abiding citizens than to anyone else.
00:19:57.120 Because this really speaks to a video that I put out on Monday of this week about firearms.
00:20:02.500 Now, as I've talked about in the past, I'm a gun owner.
00:20:05.380 I've got, actually, I just got a new gun recently.
00:20:07.300 So now I've added to my armory, which is quite a modest armory, I will say.
00:20:12.140 But I have got several guns.
00:20:14.420 And right now I'm gun-sitting as well.
00:20:16.020 But I think that it's fairly safe to say that anyone with a brain on their shoulders knows that the guy with the hunting rifle,
00:20:25.520 the woman with the target-shooting handgun, the family with the bolt actions that they use for target shooting,
00:20:32.940 whatever the case may be, these people are not the risk to public safety.
00:20:37.180 Even insofar as gun crime is concerned, it's the gangbangers that are causing the problems.
00:20:43.680 And when Toronto has more shootings on record last year than it has in decades,
00:20:48.460 I think this is safe to say that we are seeing a gun problem that is traced back to illegally owned and illegally traded guns,
00:20:57.400 a lot of which are smuggled across the border.
00:20:59.480 But truth be told, we just don't have clear data.
00:21:03.440 But there's this myth that the left likes to promulgate in Canada, and certainly the gun control activists do,
00:21:09.560 that the guns that are used to take down gangsters in Dixon in Toronto have been sold by people like me
00:21:20.000 or stolen from people like me or otherwise have been taken out of the hands of the legal chain of custody for firearms in Canada
00:21:30.160 and winding up into gangsters' hands.
00:21:32.840 Now, gun theft happens.
00:21:34.800 People get their homes broken into for it.
00:21:37.320 People have had gun stores.
00:21:39.200 They're rare, but they get broken into.
00:21:41.100 And, yeah, there have been a couple of cases where legal gun owners have turned a quick buck on the black market
00:21:45.660 by selling a gun that they acquired legally.
00:21:48.220 And every gun owner I know thinks that they should have the book thrown at them when they do that.
00:21:55.540 But we have now a climate in Canada where the government would rather force,
00:22:01.140 and this is going back to what was mentioned in the Facebook comment by David,
00:22:04.980 the government would obviously like to put more of an emphasis on controlling the law-abiding than controlling the lawless.
00:22:13.300 And the latest example of this is that Bill Blair has said.
00:22:18.200 Now, Bill Blair, for context here, is doing a nationwide review of gun policy
00:22:23.760 and including exploring specifically whether to do a full-out ban on handguns in Canada.
00:22:29.460 Now, I don't think the government will come out with a ban.
00:22:32.000 I think what they're trying to do is make it look like when they don't ban them that gun owners are to be grateful.
00:22:38.220 But the fact that for six months now they've been musing about a ban means that gratitude is gone.
00:22:43.740 It's been six months since the Danforth Ave shooting, which is the event that really triggered this.
00:22:48.660 And what did we learn from the Danforth Ave shooting?
00:22:50.760 That the gun was illegally owned.
00:22:52.300 So it was never a legally owned handgun in the Canadian market based on what we've heard from police.
00:22:59.080 But one of the other policies that's been put forward in the round of consultations,
00:23:04.440 and Bill Blair, who's the Minister for Organized Crime Reduction,
00:23:08.140 said this at a town hall event in Owen Sound this week,
00:23:11.580 that one of the ideas is centralized storage.
00:23:15.880 So if I own a handgun, which I do, I have to store that at an off-site government-approved lockup.
00:23:24.800 And when I want to use it, I have to go and retrieve it from that lockup.
00:23:29.200 Now, it's unlikely we're talking about these giant warehouses built in the middle of nowhere.
00:23:34.320 Typically, it would be storage at a gun range.
00:23:36.660 Gun ranges are already regulated and overseen by the provincial CFOs, the chief firearms offices.
00:23:47.960 And now they would have to add if this policy goes through storage to that.
00:23:52.100 Now, you have a couple of different issues here.
00:23:53.900 Number one, space.
00:23:55.960 A lot of these ranges are outdoor only.
00:23:58.340 They don't have a facility on site.
00:24:00.260 If they do put one, that takes a considerable amount of money and resources and space to do.
00:24:05.660 That, in turn, impacts the fees that members have to pay.
00:24:09.420 And all of a sudden, you've got this makeshift operation where all of these places,
00:24:15.700 if they want to stay in business, have to be able to store other owners' guns.
00:24:20.500 Which brings me to point number two.
00:24:22.800 If the concern is gun theft, the theft of legally owned guns,
00:24:28.460 surely it's better to not have them all in one place, in one room,
00:24:34.340 that anyone who wants to steal guns knows,
00:24:36.060 hey, if I go down to the gun range, there's a big old shack there,
00:24:39.600 and I know that in that shack are all these guns.
00:24:41.740 So now you have a liability component where each of these gun shops or gun facilities,
00:24:48.000 gun ranges, has a liability of having to store hundreds, if not thousands, of guns.
00:24:53.840 I get space.
00:24:56.460 I mean, my little eight-gun storage locker takes up enough space.
00:25:00.820 But now you've got the liability here.
00:25:03.820 And the most important thing is, what happens?
00:25:07.360 Let's just go through the scenarios here.
00:25:09.060 So you've got all of these guns in one place,
00:25:11.100 and I, as a gun owner, want to go shooting.
00:25:12.940 I've got to go and take my gun out of here.
00:25:14.540 What happens if one day the government uncertifies the range?
00:25:18.940 What if, heaven forbid, the government decides one day
00:25:25.100 it's just going to change the lock on these things?
00:25:27.480 Who else has access to it?
00:25:29.860 Am I still, as a gun owner, responsible for what happens to my gun
00:25:33.100 when it's being stored off-site?
00:25:35.320 If it gets stolen, is that a mark against me?
00:25:38.300 Who verifies?
00:25:39.400 Do I have to sign in?
00:25:40.540 Does government have to have a record of when I've taken my gun out,
00:25:43.620 and they know how often I'm shooting, where, when, what time of day?
00:25:46.760 The ability for government to control the private and legal activities
00:25:53.780 of millions of Canadians here, and that we are talking about millions
00:25:57.360 when we discuss gun ownership, is monumental.
00:26:00.600 And that challenge alone means that this idea,
00:26:03.480 not to forget about the logistics.
00:26:04.840 The logistics are ridiculous with this as well.
00:26:08.360 But the message this sends, that the problem is on the legal
00:26:13.400 and law-abiding gun owners.
00:26:14.860 We've got one person who mentions in the chat bill C-71.
00:26:19.760 So C-71, for those who don't know, is the firearms bill
00:26:23.680 that right now is working its way through the Senate.
00:26:26.580 This review, though, that Bill Blair is doing is beyond C-71.
00:26:30.480 This is actually a review that is entirely different,
00:26:34.480 that could actually be more legislation after C-71.
00:26:38.680 Thankfully, it doesn't look like anything will happen before the election,
00:26:41.360 but this could become an election issue.
00:26:44.040 Kathleen says, looks like the government is trying to take your guns.
00:26:47.040 Well, when the government is saying, everyone lock up your guns
00:26:49.500 in these government-approved facilities, you lose control of it.
00:26:53.620 You lose control of your property.
00:26:55.400 It's the same as government saying, you know, you've got to park your car
00:26:57.800 in these facilities that we approve.
00:27:00.120 You've got to keep your kitchen knives in a common area
00:27:03.000 alongside the communal mailbox or something.
00:27:05.340 It is government control.
00:27:07.840 It is.
00:27:08.900 And gun control in Canada is working and is fairly effective.
00:27:13.860 We don't need these illusory controls put in place
00:27:17.760 because they're not going to do anything positive.
00:27:21.720 And the liability one alone, because I've talked to some people I know
00:27:25.840 that are shooters, they would not want their guns stored somewhere else
00:27:29.960 because when you're a shooter, when you own guns,
00:27:32.020 you take a level of pride because you have accountability over that.
00:27:35.600 You check up on them.
00:27:37.000 They're your babies.
00:27:37.940 Forget the emotional attachment, though.
00:27:39.840 If someone ever, ever finds my handgun at a crime scene
00:27:44.520 and I let it get stolen, that's something I have to shoulder.
00:27:50.540 And I don't like that idea of relinquishing control.
00:27:54.180 When then you'll have, and I know that it's going to go to a de facto registry
00:27:58.220 where I've got to sign in, sign out, and government's going to say,
00:28:01.520 oh, Andrew, I noticed that you signed out your handgun on this day
00:28:04.680 and you signed it back in three hours later,
00:28:07.940 but I noticed you only had 10 rounds of ammunition.
00:28:10.780 What were you doing for three hours?
00:28:12.320 It's absolutely insane to think of where we are going.
00:28:16.860 And even Canadians that don't own guns, this is not about saying,
00:28:20.060 oh, boo-hoo, poor gun owners.
00:28:22.300 It's about understanding that if we give the state a pass,
00:28:26.580 if we give the state a pass at putting so much control over what a subsection of the law-abiding population does,
00:28:35.300 we're giving the state license to do that in so many other areas.
00:28:38.840 And if this is going to happen with gun owners,
00:28:43.480 there's no reason it couldn't happen with other groups in Canada.
00:28:47.800 So when Bill Blair talks about centralized storage,
00:28:51.000 when has anything centralized ever ended up better?
00:28:55.300 When has, to use the old Ronald Reagan line,
00:28:57.860 I'm from the government and I'm here to help,
00:28:59.880 ever made life better?
00:29:01.680 I won't hold my breath.
00:29:05.340 Will you try to come up with an answer?
00:29:08.040 Now, whether it is fighting against these people that want to put illegal immigration in this protected class
00:29:14.240 or people that want to take your guns
00:29:15.700 or people that want to trample on your rights and freedoms in any way whatsoever,
00:29:19.840 I can tell you that we are not going to take it lying down.
00:29:23.540 True North is fighting for you, but we can't do it alone.
00:29:26.600 We need your help.
00:29:27.380 If you can spare a few bucks a month,
00:29:28.980 please do join the True North Heritage Club.
00:29:32.020 I've got a link in the corner there.
00:29:33.960 Usually I point the wrong way because it's in reverse,
00:29:36.420 but I got it right on the first try there.
00:29:38.240 Click in the corner,
00:29:39.340 or if you're watching this after the fact,
00:29:40.780 I guess you've got to click below,
00:29:41.880 but click somewhere.
00:29:43.060 Just keep clicking and eventually you'll get there.
00:29:45.540 And for a couple of bucks a month,
00:29:46.840 you can keep the lights on
00:29:48.080 and make sure that we never are waning in this fight.
00:29:51.660 So I want to thank everyone for tuning in.
00:29:53.960 Thanks to everyone for the comments.
00:29:55.060 We'll be back next week.
00:29:56.360 Thank you.
00:29:56.960 God bless and good day, Canada.
00:29:58.980 God bless again.
00:30:01.040 Thank you.
00:30:02.340 God bless you, God bless you.
00:30:17.820 Thank you very much.