Juno News - May 16, 2019


True North Report: Federal government will make a list of approved media outlets


Episode Stats

Length

28 minutes

Words per Minute

177.96434

Word Count

5,137

Sentence Count

161

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

In this episode, Andrew Lawton talks about the importance of press freedom and freedom of speech in the context of the Tommy Robinson case, and the implications for the rest of the western world when it comes to free speech and press freedom.


Transcript

00:00:00.320 Good afternoon, Canada. Welcome to another True North Report. My name is Andrew Lawton, fellow with True North,
00:00:06.540 columnist and video creator, commentator, raconteur, I don't know, whatever you want to call me,
00:00:12.180 but all of that stuff doing over at TNC.news. Thank you very much for tuning in on this lovely Thursday afternoon,
00:00:18.840 or if you're on the West Coast, Thursday morning for about 10 more minutes.
00:00:22.280 I don't even know what time it is. I've just come back from the United Kingdom.
00:00:25.000 I have no idea whether it's morning, evening, night. For all I know, it's Sunday in the year 2012 right now,
00:00:31.880 but I'm catching up. I am glad to be back home. I'm here for a little while before heading back out on the road
00:00:38.160 for more stuff to cover, but I do appreciate very much you tuning in from wherever it is in the world
00:00:45.420 from which you are tuning in. Thank you. So as I mentioned in that little opening breath there,
00:00:51.160 did just return from the United Kingdom, where if you followed the videos that we were putting on
00:00:56.220 Facebook and coverage we were posting on TNC.news, you'll know I was covering the Tommy Robinson court
00:01:02.540 appearance. Now this was a procedural hearing, just a little over two hours in length, but an important
00:01:08.600 one because it was the hearing that determined whether Tommy Robinson would have to face effectively
00:01:15.580 trial again for a charge for which he's already served jail time. And I'm not going to bury the
00:01:21.980 lead on this. The answer is yes, he has to face another trial for this. And that's going to be on
00:01:26.900 July 4th and 5th. But I wanted to go live to talk about this because it really does connect with a lot
00:01:34.140 of other things that are happening right now. And I couldn't have scripted this all better because
00:01:39.840 everything is coming to a head in Canada and the UK. And I'd say the Western world more broadly
00:01:44.640 when it comes to free speech and press freedom. And I want to get into some of that today.
00:01:50.720 David in the chat says, welcome home. Well, thank you very much, David. Glad to be home.
00:01:54.880 So let's start out with the term press freedom here because press freedom and freedom of speech are
00:02:01.040 effectively the same thing. And we view them as different because people tend to hold up journalists
00:02:06.960 as someone that are supposed to be on a higher level than society. But journalists are really
00:02:12.080 meant to be representatives of society and representatives of the people. Journalists
00:02:17.520 should have no fewer rights or no more rights than non-journalists. And they simply have a different
00:02:24.560 platform to advance it. But there's no difference in my mind from the ability for the Globe and Mail
00:02:30.960 to publish a story than there is for my neighbor to write something on Facebook. That doesn't mean
00:02:37.040 the quality is going to be the same. In some cases, the neighbor I think might have something better
00:02:40.800 than the Globe and Mail. But the fundamental freedom is the same. So I'm going to use in this discussion
00:02:47.200 terms like press freedom and freedom of speech, not exclusively interchangeably, but a lot of the times
00:02:54.720 I'm going to be talking about the concepts in a way that it could apply to both of them equally.
00:02:59.760 And I think this is important because the press freedom that we have in say Canada or the United
00:03:09.120 Kingdom, to go to the Tommy Robinson thing, comes along with a responsibility, yes. If you have a
00:03:14.480 platform, you have an audience, you have a moral obligation to tell the truth, you have a moral
00:03:20.800 obligation to be fair, a moral obligation to be honest and to have integrity. But you do not have a legal
00:03:28.560 obligation to hew to a particular party line or talking point. You may have a social contract with
00:03:36.400 your readers. I think that the Toronto Star has a social contract with its readers to have a liberal
00:03:41.920 bias. CBC, a bit of a different story. You know, the National Post when it started, I think had a social
00:03:47.840 contract with its readers to be a bit more conservative. But again, these are completely allowable.
00:03:53.680 And I have no issue with the Toronto Star having the ability to be a liberal paper. I have no issue
00:03:59.440 with the Globe and Mail being able to be liberal. I have no issue with any outlet, the Daily or the
00:04:05.040 National Observer being a far left publication. That's fine. But my rules on this are very simple,
00:04:11.040 be honest, be open, and be very transparent about what your biases are. And this is why I've never,
00:04:19.520 I've grown into it. I used to specifically say to people, I'm not a journalist, I'm a commentator.
00:04:24.400 And I think that in the last seven, eight years, the definition of journalism has changed a fair bit,
00:04:30.000 or at the very least, it's broadened. Because we realize there are activist journalists,
00:04:34.320 there are opinion journalists, there are straight down the middle journalists,
00:04:37.680 there are gonzo journalists. You have all of these different things. And as long as you're doing
00:04:41.840 journalism, you're trying to get the truth, you're covering, you're asking the questions,
00:04:45.680 I think we need to have a very wide line as around what we call a journalist.
00:04:52.720 And the reason I say that is because right now, the federal government
00:04:55.840 government is going to be putting forward a list of approved journalists. This is,
00:05:01.920 this is legitimately real here. And I'm going to read from a Black Locks reporter story.
00:05:07.600 Journalists testifying at the Commons Finance Committee on Wednesday, expressed wariness over
00:05:13.840 practical or perceived government meddling in news coverage under a 595 million dollar industry
00:05:20.400 bailout. One MP called the program a blank check that leaves cabinet appointees to decide which
00:05:26.960 publishers win subsidies. And this was a response to a story that Black Locks initially broke,
00:05:34.480 a day earlier, about how the Department of Finance said to the Senate Finance Committee that there's
00:05:41.120 going to be a list of qualifying journalism organizations. And this is what Finance Canada
00:05:48.240 spokesperson said, that the rules will allow for quote, say, the Canada Revenue Agency to have a list
00:05:54.720 saying here are the organizations that qualify for the digital tax credits. So this is quite
00:06:03.840 significant because now we're seeing government decide which media outlets are deserving of government
00:06:13.120 funds, of which media outlets are deemed reliable by government standards. And the reason this is so
00:06:19.680 chilling is because a biased politician who is ultimately supposed to be the one held to account by
00:06:26.800 media is now responsible for determining which media is reliable and which media is not reliable.
00:06:35.440 Now let me say right out of the gate, I have no expectations of being on this list. I have no desire
00:06:40.880 to be on the list. I'm not asking to be on the list. But I think the list shouldn't exist because I think
00:06:46.080 that government bailouts shouldn't exist for journalism. And we have a few different examples of this. So not only is
00:06:51.920 there the $595 million one, there's also a tax credit project for websites that are operated by
00:07:04.080 quote, a qualified Canadian journalism organization. And you could have a 15% tax credit for subscribers
00:07:11.920 of media outlets. So True North is a great example of this. We have programs where you can subscribe,
00:07:18.880 you can become a member, and I do encourage you to do it. You can join my Heritage Club,
00:07:22.960 you can join my Patriot Club. Candace has a Heritage Club and a Patriot Club as well. The benefits are
00:07:28.320 very similar. But the whole point of this is that if you join one of these clubs, you should be able to,
00:07:36.160 if you're able to write off your Toronto Star or Globe and Mail subscription, you are also, in my view,
00:07:42.960 someone that should be able to write off subscriptions to an organization like True North,
00:07:48.160 to Rabble, to the Daily Mail, to Rebel, or not the Daily Mail, to the, I keep wanting to call the
00:07:54.160 National Observer, the Daily Observer, and that becomes the Daily Mail. They couldn't be further
00:07:58.240 from one another. But I was just in the UK. So I blame it on that. But if you want to support the media,
00:08:06.000 why not support these independent organizations and outlets that are doing this shoe leather journalism,
00:08:11.600 that a lot of the mainstream media outlets aren't. And this is the whole point. But now there's going to be
00:08:17.200 an approved media outlet. And it's only a matter of time before this approval list extends to other areas.
00:08:26.640 And I want to give you a great example of this from when I was in the UK. So I was covering
00:08:31.840 the Tommy Robinson case. And to get into the courtroom, the Old Bailey, the famous courtroom in London,
00:08:38.720 you have to, it's not like here in Canada, where you can just walk into a court off the street,
00:08:43.520 you've got to be on the list. And they have a licensing for journalists. Now it's not a government
00:08:48.880 license, but they've got in the United Kingdom, these industry licenses where you can get a press
00:08:54.160 card. And a lot of government agencies, including police, will only engage with media officials who have
00:09:02.880 these press identification cards. So even though it's not a license, it almost functions as a
00:09:08.880 journalism license, which is a very dangerous thing to do. Because I'm a foreign reporter in this case,
00:09:15.120 I don't have one of these licenses. So it was actually quite an ordeal to be granted access to the
00:09:20.480 court. I had to get a letter from my editor, who in this case was Candace. I had to submit a name and
00:09:27.120 address and all of this stuff in advance. And there were no issues getting into the courtroom. But to
00:09:32.560 cover it, there is a barrier. And if I as just a British citizen with a blog, said one day, I'd like
00:09:39.120 to cover this case and write about it, I would not be able to do that, because I would not be in the eyes
00:09:44.400 of the British courts, an accredited journalist. So we're going one step further than that. We're not
00:09:50.160 just having bureaucrats that are looking at identification cards, and having this as a barrier,
00:09:55.120 we're talking about a government that's putting a list of these are the approved media outlets. Well,
00:10:00.320 what happens if down the road, the government says, we're only going to allow people from this approved
00:10:05.760 list to cover a press conference? What if the government says we're only going to allow people
00:10:11.600 from this approved list to ask for interviews with cabinet ministers? Well, once they set up this
00:10:19.440 infrastructure of having this list, they are giving themselves the license to determine who is or is
00:10:27.120 not real news, or dare I say, fake news. And you know, it's funny, I gave this example, I don't want to,
00:10:33.600 I did an interview about this topic on Ezra Levant's show on The Rebel, but I want to read an example that
00:10:39.120 I gave in that interview, that I think is an important one here. So, so this morning at 8 22 a.m.,
00:10:45.840 I got a push notification from CBC, and I'll see if I can actually, if you can see this here,
00:10:52.240 can you, is it showing up? Air Canada to purchase Air Transat. So very specific, Air Canada to purchase
00:11:00.640 Air Transat. And I know there was a reflection in there, but then I got nearly an hour later at 9 18,
00:11:08.240 another push notification, correction, Air Canada, oh I got rid of it here, oh correction, Air Canada
00:11:17.120 to enter into talks to purchase Air Transat. Air Canada in exclusive talks, a previous notification
00:11:24.560 says Air Canada to purchase. So here's a story, now thankfully the stock market hadn't opened yet,
00:11:28.960 so it didn't have too much of an impact negatively, but CBC puts out a nationwide press notification saying
00:11:36.800 that there is going to be a purchase of Air Transat, and an hour later determines, oh no no no no,
00:11:41.760 they're just talking about it. Now this is a mistake that anyone could make. I could understand
00:11:47.360 someone making this error, news outlets always have retractions and corrections,
00:11:51.760 I'm not going to call CBC fake news, but by definition this morning CBC was not reliable.
00:11:58.320 By definition CBC was not reliable. So is the government going to put CBC on the reliable list,
00:12:03.920 or the unreliable list? How many mistakes does it take for an outlet to become non-reliable,
00:12:10.960 for an outlet to be non-approved? Will biased outlets that are open and transparent about their bias be
00:12:16.560 allowed on? Will Daily Mail or Press Progress, I did it again, National Observer or Press Progress,
00:12:22.080 will they be allowed on there? Who knows? Would a Rebel or a Spencer Fernando type be allowed?
00:12:32.160 Who knows? And it's not to say these people are asking for it, I'm talking about them as examples.
00:12:36.720 What about Post-Millennial? A Conservative MP asked in a committee about that,
00:12:41.120 would Post-Millennial, which is a right-leaning publication, be allowed? And this is such a huge
00:12:48.000 thing here. So when we talk about reliable, when we talk about reliable, the reason that I bring
00:12:54.800 this up is because, first off, this is the language that was used in the Black Clock story, but the
00:13:00.080 government has been talking about this entire plan in the context of fake news versus real news. And
00:13:06.480 that's why the approved, the approved is so significant here. Because they're only going
00:13:13.520 to approve things that they say are not fake news. Well, Justin Trudeau called the Globe and Mail
00:13:19.520 story about Jody Wills and Raybould in February false. He said it's not true. And he didn't call
00:13:24.960 them fake news, but he might as well have. So eventually everyone in media is not going to have a
00:13:32.160 social contract or moral obligation to their readers or their subscribers or even in their
00:13:37.680 advertisers. These outlets are going to have only accountability to the government if that
00:13:45.360 government money is becoming central to their existence. And as I said, this is starting with
00:13:50.800 this little $11 million tax credit fund, but I just know this list is ultimately going to roll into
00:13:57.360 that $595 million bailout fund as well. Because that's the whole point. How would you as a government
00:14:06.160 disseminate that money if not to outlets that you have approved? So government now has a list,
00:14:12.640 and it's like Santa Claus, making the list, checking it twice, and they're going to find out which media
00:14:17.120 outlets are naughty or nice. So let's look at all the ways that this could go wrong. We know that the
00:14:23.440 prime minister's office plants op-eds. We heard testimony of this from Jody Wilson-Raybould that
00:14:28.880 Katie Telford would call up a paper and plant an op-ed to support whatever the government was doing
00:14:36.560 or someone in the government was doing. So if that were to happen and an outlet said we don't want to
00:14:42.720 run that op-ed, well, would they turn down the government? Would they turn down who is going to be
00:14:49.440 responsible for this list? How do you come up with a black and white definition of reliability,
00:14:56.000 of approvability, of qualifications? How do you come up with a black and white definition
00:15:00.320 that doesn't result in political interference in some way? And the reason that I find this to be
00:15:08.240 such a dangerous proposal and a dangerous policy for, I mean, there are a number of reasons, but
00:15:15.840 we are two months away from the government hosting a press freedom summit with the United Kingdom.
00:15:21.920 Two months away. And I've talked about this in the past. I did a video on it. We're crowdfunding for it.
00:15:26.720 If you are able to help us, I would very, very much appreciate it over at tnc.news. You can support
00:15:32.720 the crowdfunding campaign to cover the press freedom summit. But Canada and the UK will be co-hosting a
00:15:37.840 press freedom summit about essentially defending the free press and promoting the Canadian and British
00:15:46.160 approaches to the free press. And now we have the government saying we're going to put a list
00:15:52.800 together of the media outlets that we think are acceptable and can be approved. Well, what happens
00:15:59.360 if someone who's not on that list wants to cover the press freedom summit? And this is a great example
00:16:04.000 of something that I'm going to have to go through. I'm going to be going to Chrystia Freeland's office
00:16:07.040 and saying, I'd like to cover this. I may not be on your approved list, but I'm still doing it.
00:16:12.000 I'm reliable. I'm not on your side politically, but I'm an honest, transparent and truthful
00:16:17.920 journalist when it comes to these things. And it's going to backfire on the government
00:16:24.080 when people start to see or even suspect that there may be strings attached on money that's going
00:16:32.000 towards journalism outlets and media outlets. And I have to say that the connection to the UK in this
00:16:40.800 is that because Canada and the UK are co-hosting the press freedom summit, that's taking place one
00:16:46.560 week after Tommy Robinson will be facing a contempt of court retrial in London, England. July 4th and 5th
00:16:54.960 is when he's on trial. The press freedom summit is July 10th and 11th. I'm definitely going to be there for
00:16:59.760 the press freedom summit if we're able to meet our fundraising goal. The Tommy Robinson case is as well
00:17:04.720 important here because here we have a guy who's being prosecuted by the British government for being
00:17:10.080 an activist journalist, for doing a live stream on Facebook outside a courtroom talking about what was
00:17:16.720 happening, filming people that were going into the courtroom. But remember filming them in a public square,
00:17:24.320 a public space on the street. Now you put this in context, Tommy Robinson when he was walking into
00:17:30.000 court in London on Tuesday was surrounded by cameras and reporters. They were a lot more aggressive than
00:17:36.640 he was in Leeds a year ago when he was filming outside the courtroom in the sex grooming case that
00:17:43.760 ultimately got him arrested, charged, tried, convicted, sentenced and jailed in five hours. In five and a half
00:17:51.280 hours I think it was. So the UK is not in a position right now to claim the moral high ground on anything
00:17:59.360 when it comes to journalism and journalism freedom. The Canadian government is better than the UK slightly
00:18:05.680 but now that we're talking about approved media lists I don't think we can say that as Canadians we can rest
00:18:11.280 on our laurels and accept that free press and free speech and broader issues of journalistic freedom are
00:18:17.600 there because we have a government that insists it is able to and has a moral responsibility to
00:18:26.320 coming up with a list of who's fake news and who's real news. This has been a recurring theme
00:18:31.600 from Karina Gould for example. This has been part of the pitch that the Canadian government has tried to
00:18:37.280 put to social media companies to say you've got to clean up your act or we're going to regulate you into
00:18:41.840 oblivion and I forget who it was I can't think of their name but there was some MP that was all upset
00:18:50.160 that Facebook and Twitter and Google aren't like being deferential to Canada and I'm sorry Canada has
00:18:56.160 36 million people we are a dwarf in the eyes of these social media giants and I think that what these
00:19:02.560 governments should be doing if they're not happy with it is realize how big of an animal these companies
00:19:07.520 have gotten but the answer to this is not regulating them you can never regulate content into being
00:19:13.920 true and you can never regulate truth in the way that these government officials are trying to you
00:19:19.840 know Doug says on Facebook I think I would like to approve or disapprove of my own list thank you very
00:19:25.440 much this is nothing more than the liberals financing liberal friendly news outlets it's going to be that
00:19:31.920 I mean you have two problems here if you want to take the political angle which I am by making a list
00:19:38.160 of government approved media outlets you're effectively going to leave out people that are fierce critics
00:19:42.800 of your government but even if you take a pragmatic argument it's only going to favor the big boys
00:19:49.360 it's only going to favor the big boys the only people that are going to be consistently on this list
00:19:54.240 are going to be your post media your Rogers your Globe and Mail your Toronto Star your Bell
00:20:01.920 name anyone else that's the Canadian media industry for you Canadian media is dominated by a group of
00:20:09.360 companies that you can put on one hand you've got any of you include broadcast you've got chorus bell
00:20:15.840 Rogers and then you add print in there you've got post media star metro globe and mail and globe and
00:20:20.720 mail is a single paper star metro is a network of papers post media is a giant network of papers so you've
00:20:27.120 basically got three print companies in Canada that are in daily newspaper journalism they're going
00:20:34.000 to be the ones that are benefiting from this they're going to be the ones that are benefiting
00:20:37.120 the most from the 595 million dollars they're going to be the ones that are benefiting most from this tax credit
00:20:44.320 that is spawning the list of approved media they're the ones that are going to be raking in all this money from the government
00:20:51.920 and again my answer to this is not the government needs to give more money to the little guys my answer
00:20:57.440 to this is that government should give no money to anyone in this space it's the age-old expression
00:21:03.520 he who pays the piper calls the tune everyone knows this he who pays the piper calls the tune this means
00:21:10.240 that when someone is receiving money from you you have a level of ownership over them there's no such thing
00:21:16.320 as no strings attached money there can be more strings or fewer strings but there's always at
00:21:21.440 least one string if you're paying someone and now we have governments that are giving money to
00:21:27.360 journalism outlets we now have journalism outlets that will become dependent and reliant on this
00:21:32.960 this has been uh the toronto star uh uh i'm not editor-in-chief but publisher john hondritz thing for
00:21:39.600 for years he's been advocating for government to bail out journalism because he says
00:21:43.520 it's a duty to protect journalism well no all it means is that you have to start qualifying
00:21:49.360 journalists with government journalists we already have government journalists we have cbc
00:21:54.640 we have cbc so we already have government approved journalism right there and i'd say as a consumer of
00:22:01.040 it i gave you an example of a significant error in a story that cbc made this morning that's not to say
00:22:07.520 other outlets haven't made their own mistakes it's not to say it's a mistake that no one else could have or
00:22:12.400 would have made it's just saying that even the government approved 1.3 billion funded cbc
00:22:18.720 makes mistakes so if reliability becomes the focal point here we're going to have a line that will be
00:22:26.880 arbitrarily drawn that will have a political caveat drawn into it because there will have to be
00:22:34.240 you know the government doesn't want to give money to people that are going to be criticizing it
00:22:39.200 so government's going to be giving money to its friends and even people that aren't friends of
00:22:44.560 the government will effectively have to start orienting themselves around how are we going to
00:22:49.920 make sure this money is not threatened because again i'm getting one step ahead of this i i know
00:22:56.720 that this list of approved media outlets which the government itself has testified to in a committee
00:23:01.120 meeting is going to become the precursor to how bailout funds are distributed it has to be because this is the
00:23:07.040 only way they're going to be able to determine who gets access to these funds that are used for the
00:23:12.640 bailout and we're talking about uh you know just shy of 0.6 billion dollars here just under 600 million
00:23:21.360 dollars going towards this it's unconscionable so i go back to what true north wants to do in the uk in
00:23:27.680 july what i want to do in the uk in july how can canada proclaim itself to be this great provider of press
00:23:34.720 freedom or the protector of press freedom when there's when the government in canada is moving
00:23:40.240 to a place where press freedom is essentially being trumped by the economic dependence that the media
00:23:49.600 will have on the canadian government and and let's let's take another angle of this here let's say
00:23:57.040 that the national post and again i'm just picking them up as an example it doesn't matter who
00:24:00.960 let's say the national post is getting access to this money and for whatever reason for whatever
00:24:06.720 reason the federal government one year decides we don't think the national post is on our approved
00:24:12.240 list anymore we don't think the national post is eligible well this decision which may have been
00:24:17.600 entirely above border fair will now be one that's stacked up against columns you know if you're the
00:24:23.760 national post you're going to say oh well they don't like this story we wrote about trudeau they
00:24:27.520 don't like this column that we ran they don't like that conrad black was pardoned and he's got a
00:24:32.000 thing here by the way amazing that conrad black was pardoned uh they don't like all of this stuff
00:24:36.240 and and that's why they took it away so now it forces there to at least be skepticism about any
00:24:42.560 decision that's made it's going to be filtered through that lens of content and remember that the
00:24:47.520 appearance of a conflict is in and of itself as powerful as a conflict if it could be a conflict
00:24:53.600 it's a conflict and you know i think that you have to draw some lines and set some limits when you
00:24:59.120 use that but when we're talking about government money going to prop up journalism whether it's
00:25:05.040 government money subsidizing uh out or subscriptions to journalism or literal direct subsidies to
00:25:11.840 journalism outlets this is an inevitability in the future that media outlets will not want to rock the
00:25:18.160 boat too much and i mentioned black locks reporter look i'm a subscriber to black locks they do a lot
00:25:24.080 of great work they're uh subscription based they are expensive they're a small team it's not an
00:25:30.960 inexpensive subscription but it's a valuable subscription are they going to be on the approved
00:25:35.760 list do they want to be on the approved list they've said in the past if memory serves they don't
00:25:39.520 want access to the bailout funds but look i would love if i could write off what i spend on a
00:25:45.200 subscription to a place like black locks but but all of a sudden if if the answer is no and i can only
00:25:51.440 write off a toronto star globe and mail subscription maybe as a consumer i would say oh well i guess i
00:26:01.760 won't subscribe to that one because it's going to be more advantageous to do this one so in by doing
00:26:07.280 this the government is picking winners and losers the government is picking among the media winners and
00:26:13.600 losers and you know that the friends of the government that are lining up hat and hand on
00:26:18.160 this like pigs at the trough are going to be the big winners economically maybe not in the scheme of
00:26:23.600 life winners but economically they're going to be the winners of this so the time has never been more
00:26:29.520 critical to support independent journalism because this is what we are up against i mean independent media
00:26:35.520 outlets are now up against the heavy hand of government supporting the big guys and supporting
00:26:43.360 i i fear the work that's being done by only those who wish to support the government narrative and the
00:26:52.160 government message we were coming up on election in what six months or five months i guess five months
00:27:00.560 until the october election how do you think it's going to work out if people are worried in their
00:27:07.200 coverage that oh well if this one gets re-elected they could take me off the list they could put me on the
00:27:12.320 the list i mean this is not a discussion that media outlets should even have to be having
00:27:16.880 it puts them in a terrible place it puts the government in an even worse place and for readers
00:27:21.360 you're wondering who's beholden to whom that's it so again i'm going to make a pitch and if i sound
00:27:26.160 like a broken record i'm not going to apologize because we need your support as a media outlet
00:27:32.480 because this is what we're up against so if you want to uh chip in a few bucks a month to join the
00:27:36.720 heritage club please do if you want to support the specific press freedom project that i'm doing
00:27:41.920 right now we've got a special link to that that i'll post in the facebook once i'm done here
00:27:47.440 uh the because again i don't have all these producers that are doing this for me i'm doing
00:27:50.720 it alone and i'm happy to do that but we're going to post the link to the crowdfunding campaign
00:27:55.760 because someone needs to hold the government to account when it thinks that it gets to set the
00:28:00.160 boundaries and set the limits on which media outlets are supportable and which ones are not
00:28:06.000 supportable and that is such a gong show that is passing for an approach to truth in an era of
00:28:16.080 untruth this is how the liberals are trying to present it so that's what's coming up you can do
00:28:19.840 all that at tnc.news uh in the meantime if you want to follow my coverage of the tommy robinson case
00:28:25.760 uh some videos did a couple of columns that's all stuff you can find at tnc.news as well i very very
00:28:32.000 much look forward to you sending me any thoughts you have about it my email address andrew at andrew
00:28:36.880 lawton.ca signing off for now we'll be back next week andrew lawton for true north thank you god
00:28:42.320 god bless and good day canada