Juno News - January 30, 2019


True North Report： NDP doesn't like that Doug Ford met with ＂far-right＂ Jordan Peterson

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Jordan Peterson meeting with Doug Ford
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Jordan Peterson Doug Ford Terrence Kernaghan Andrew Lawton Charles McVitie Mike Crawler Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Francis Whittowson Lindsay Shepard Michael Corrin Jonathan Haidt Susan Lejeune Jean Chrétien Tommy Douglas David Martin Ivan Illich Harry Potter Alex Pearson Ron Tavener Paul Martin and 1 more
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A bombshell report from Mike Crawley at CBC about a secret, off-the-books, no one could know about meeting with Jordan Peterson, a world-renowned academic and scholar. And why does the mainstream media care so much?

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00:00:00.600 Hey everyone, welcome to another exciting True North report. My name is Andrew Lotton, a fellow with True North, and with you here for the next little while as we talk about things that are happening in the world, in the country, things that are happening where there is a perspective that the mainstream media is missing out on.
00:00:18.380 Now, unfortunately, it doesn't take much to elude the, what's the opposite of eagle eye, to elude the sparrow eye of the mainstream press, but we're here for you. I'm here for you. I've got your back. Thanks very much for tuning in.
00:00:31.820 Depending on where you are in the country right now, you might actually be hunkered down in a secret bunker not wanting to go outside at all.
00:00:40.380 I won't bother turning my camera because I have enough of a hard time getting it to work under normal circumstances, but I'm surrounded by snow right now.
00:00:50.600 I've shut down the windows, obviously, but I want to give you fair warning. There is a slight possibility that at some point during this broadcast, you'll hear like the loud thuds and scrapes and beeps of snow plows.
00:01:03.080 It looks like it's plowed on my street, but I can't make any guarantees. I think they were out there at like 4 a.m., which, let me tell you, was absolutely lovely for my wife and I, sound asleep, and then hearing the giant backup sirens, because that's really what they are, of snow plows.
00:01:20.200 But that is the price you pay for living in Canada. So, regardless of where you are and how bad or not bad the snow is, I'm sure like BC is fine, but I think like all of Ontario, Quebec, everything like that is all pretty screwed up right now.
00:01:33.860 So, maybe you are stuck at work or maybe you were stuck at home and didn't have to go to work. Either way, what you probably weren't doing is stuck with your channels set to CBC.
00:01:44.160 If you were, though, you would have noticed that CBC had a bit of a weird story. And I say weird because the state broadcaster tended to think that it was a bombshell, but I'm failing to see what the actual bombshell part of it was.
00:02:02.720 And this is from Mike Crawley, who's their chief legislative correspondent for Ontario politics. But this is a story that everyone will be interested in.
00:02:11.960 The bombshell report, bombshell report from Mike Crawley at CBC is that Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario, had a meeting, a secret, off the books, no one could know about meeting in October with Jordan Peterson.
00:02:28.440 I know, cue shocks and gasps and all that. Yeah, so let's back up on a couple of things.
00:02:35.420 The implication in this is that this meeting was somehow being hidden. In actuality, Doug Ford just doesn't publish his daily schedule.
00:02:42.620 I mean, prime ministers, premiers, they get to decide whether they want to publish their whole schedule, a part of it or none of it.
00:02:48.560 He doesn't publish a daily update, accounting for every single meeting he's had.
00:02:53.100 But one of the meetings that Doug Ford had back in Ontario's legislative chambers in October was with Jordan Peterson, the University of Toronto professor who's become an internationally renowned free speech crusader, academic, and advocate for open inquiry.
00:03:11.100 And Doug Ford met with him.
00:03:12.440 That's the story. If you're waiting for more information, that's the story.
00:03:18.020 And CBC ran like a 900-word piece that says nothing more than that, that Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario, met with Jordan Peterson, a world-renowned academic and scholar.
00:03:29.380 That's it. That is the story.
00:03:31.660 So why does CBC care so much?
00:03:33.720 Well, this is where we get into the CBC bias.
00:03:37.080 Now, I'm going to read elements of this story because it's hilarious how far they go to try to make it seem like there's something bigger here than there actually is.
00:03:47.700 For starters, because there isn't a public agenda that's put forward by Doug Ford's office, they had to file a Freedom of Information request.
00:03:55.400 And the government gives them, in response to that, the day-by-day accounting of his calendar.
00:03:59.300 So they got the information. I mean, there was no whistleblower. No one was, you know, water-gating this.
00:04:05.720 They just asked, and the government said, all right, here you go. Here's Doug Ford's schedule. You just have to file the request.
00:04:11.120 But this is it. Ontario Premier Doug Ford held a one-on-one meeting with Jordan Peterson a week after the controversial university professor publicly urged Ford to abolish the province's Human Rights Commission.
00:04:23.900 CBC News has learned.
00:04:25.100 The meeting was revealed in Ford's appointment calendar for October and November, obtained through a Freedom of Information request.
00:04:32.880 CBC made the request because Ford is not providing the media with his daily public itinerary.
00:04:39.800 CBC News cannot find any record of Ford or Peterson publicly mentioning that their Ontario 18th meeting took place.
00:04:47.720 So they're trying to say here that, well, they met, but why didn't they, this is basically it.
00:04:54.000 Why didn't they tweet about it?
00:04:55.860 This is the question that CBC is saying, because this is the next paragraph.
00:04:59.560 Ford tweeted about several of his other private meetings around that date with Diane Martin, CEO of the Registered Practical Nurses Association, with Susan Lejeune, the British High Commissioner to Canada, with Tim Hudak, the former PC leader who's now the CEO of the Ontario Real Estate Association.
00:05:17.580 So what?
00:05:18.520 They're saying, oh, well, he tweeted about some other meetings he had then.
00:05:21.680 Why didn't he tweet about Jordan Peterson?
00:05:24.280 And CBC doesn't come right out and say it, but you can tell that the network is trying to bring people to that conclusion that there was something being hidden about this.
00:05:34.460 There was something secret about this.
00:05:36.760 And truth be told, it's nothing of the sort.
00:05:38.700 They asked the premier's office, what were they talking about?
00:05:41.220 And the press secretary to the premier, Ivana Yelich, said they were talking about free speech on college and university campuses.
00:05:48.700 Why wouldn't they be?
00:05:49.720 First off, Jordan Peterson is one of the only reasons that a lot of people in Canada are talking about free speech on college and university campuses.
00:05:59.640 And Doug Ford, for his part, has made it a mission to restore free speech and open inquiry to these institutions.
00:06:07.560 There's a reason he put that policy in place that I've talked about in past editions of this broadcast that requires all publicly funded universities to have a free speech policy starting this month.
00:06:19.720 It's starting January 1st.
00:06:22.300 So there's never been a secret about it.
00:06:24.860 So Doug Ford has a priority of free speech on campuses.
00:06:28.640 Jordan Peterson is one of the most, the foremost advocates for free speech on campus.
00:06:33.280 The two of them meet.
00:06:34.200 This isn't newsworthy.
00:06:35.360 This shouldn't be surprising.
00:06:36.540 And, but this is the thing, though.
00:06:40.100 They're upset because a week earlier, Jordan Peterson tweeted about Doug Ford.
00:06:45.480 See, this is the only way journalism happens right now is journalists watching Twitter.
00:06:49.960 Like, this is the only way they get their stories.
00:06:52.060 They stare at Twitter all day and hope something happens.
00:06:54.660 And if nothing happens, they find, like, the one obscure tweet by a protected account with an egg as its profile that says,
00:07:01.340 well, I don't like this dancing by Alexander Ocasio-Cortez.
00:07:04.340 And boom, headline news all over the world.
00:07:06.680 But this was the tweet that Peterson made on October 10th.
00:07:09.960 The faster the Ontario Human Rights Commission is abolished, the better, Ford Nation. 0.76
00:07:14.840 There isn't a more dangerous organization in Canada, with the possible exception of the Ontario Institute for Studies and Education.
00:07:21.460 Oh, I see. And they're saying that Peterson was taking on the Ontario Human Rights Commission's decision to join a legal challenge against Doug Ford's government.
00:07:32.100 He was opposing it. And look, I think the Human Rights Commission should be abolished as well.
00:07:36.780 But believing that, first off, is a completely justifiable position.
00:07:40.980 And secondly, it doesn't disqualify you from meeting with a politician, even if that's not what they were talking about.
00:07:47.520 And it sounds from the Premier's office like that wasn't even the topic of discussion.
00:07:52.160 It was about free speech issues more broadly.
00:07:55.340 But you wonder why this is newsworthy and why the story kept going on.
00:08:00.000 And they dig into the background of, oh, Jordan Peterson once said this about the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario.
00:08:06.000 And this is my personal favorite.
00:08:08.400 Ford's calendar for October and November shows no one-on-one meetings with any other Ontario University professors.
00:08:15.580 So they're saying, you know, the only way that it would have been justifiable for Jordan Peterson to get a meeting with Doug Ford is if Doug Ford also spoke to, like, the head of the gender studies department at Nipissing University that same week.
00:08:30.360 Or, you know, the head of the conflict studies and Harry Potter literary analysis degree program professor from the University of Windsor.
00:08:38.520 It's like, well, that's the only Ontario professor.
00:08:42.280 So Jordan Peterson, in one context, is this, you know, evil global superstar.
00:08:47.540 And in the others, he's just, you know, some Ontario university professor.
00:08:52.500 It's hilarious because the media wants to fear him and delegitimize him at the same time.
00:08:59.820 And you don't get both.
00:09:01.060 You have to pick one.
00:09:02.000 You have to either put someone up on a pedestal and say, this person's a big deal, they've got influence, they've got power, or this person's irrelevant and no one should pay attention to them.
00:09:10.880 But you don't get to do both.
00:09:12.260 And you certainly don't get to do both in the same news story.
00:09:16.480 And when you look at this story, they've tried to lump it into another controversy about the Ontario government buying an OPP vehicle.
00:09:24.580 And they've tried to make it then about the appointment of Ron Tavener as OPP commissioner.
00:09:30.900 And they've taken this non-story, which is Doug Ford had a meeting with an Ontarian.
00:09:38.100 And they've made it about, you know, Doug Ford and the OPP and Doug Ford's calendar and transparency in government and freedom of information acts and all of this stuff.
00:09:47.300 And it's laughable because the NDP view of things, and I'll get to that more in a second, but the CBC is taking here the NDP view of it.
00:09:58.140 The NDP view of Jordan Peterson is that just because we say that he's a bad guy, he's a bad guy.
00:10:06.700 Because that is the implication.
00:10:08.980 That is very much the implication here.
00:10:11.200 This is only a story because they genuinely don't like what he stands for.
00:10:17.500 And they don't need to say it to know that's what they're really inferring with this.
00:10:21.500 Because I looked at some of the calendar entries that were in the FOI documents.
00:10:26.280 And, you know, there's a meeting with the Lieutenant Governor.
00:10:28.260 There's a meeting.
00:10:29.280 I mean, it's not where's the story of Doug Ford met with Ontario Lieutenant Governor.
00:10:33.260 What did they discuss?
00:10:34.460 Well, who knows?
00:10:34.980 Who cares what they discussed?
00:10:36.760 We're talking about a legitimate voice here.
00:10:40.260 And I got into a discussion with an NDPer last week or two weeks ago on Facebook.
00:10:45.100 And we were talking about hate speech on campus, free speech on campus.
00:10:48.400 And that discussion that has really become quite central to a lot of the work that I do.
00:10:53.740 And he's a believer that, you know, these things like safe spaces and all of that are not inherently bad things.
00:11:00.540 And I said that, look, when you start defining or redefining hate, you are getting to this very dangerous territory.
00:11:08.300 And I said, look at Jordan Peterson for an example, thinking that he would agree with me that Jordan Peterson is an example of a legitimate voice.
00:11:15.120 I said, here's a guy, he's a professor, he's respected, you know, people may not like him, but he's not a hateful person.
00:11:22.660 And he said, yes, Jordan Peterson is a great example of the type of speech that shouldn't be allowed.
00:11:27.960 And I was baffled by it.
00:11:29.540 I was absolutely baffled by it.
00:11:31.300 And to be fair, he wasn't saying not allowed in the sense of, you know, Jordan Peterson should be strung up and arrested.
00:11:36.820 He was saying that, you know, this is the example of the type of speech that challenges or threatens students on university campuses.
00:11:45.780 And I wholeheartedly disagree with that.
00:11:48.260 But it's interesting because this story ended up coming in a way back around to me.
00:11:56.140 And I find that, I found it to be interesting.
00:11:58.920 It was actually, I think my wife who pointed me out, because my wife knows what I do for a living, of course.
00:12:03.300 So she thinks that I'm like just picking fights with people all day.
00:12:05.800 And she had said, what did you do to so-and-so?
00:12:08.900 And I said, I don't know.
00:12:10.060 I haven't talked to so-and-so ever, at least not in like the last six months.
00:12:13.860 Why?
00:12:14.320 They're like, oh, well, he's, you know, going after you on Twitter.
00:12:16.480 And I'm like, all right, well, I'll play ball here.
00:12:19.060 And the person she was talking about is named Terrence Kernaghan.
00:12:23.760 And Terrence Kernaghan is a member of provincial parliament.
00:12:27.380 So if you're from Ontario, an MPP is a provincial legislator.
00:12:31.660 If you're not from Ontario, it's the equivalent of an MLA.
00:12:33.920 So a member of the provincial legislative assembly in Ontario.
00:12:37.880 And he was elected in the riding next door to the one that I ran in.
00:12:42.440 London North Centre is where Terrence Kernaghan is now the MPP in the New Democratic Party caucus.
00:12:48.240 And he linked to the CBC story about Doug Ford and Jordan Peterson.
00:12:53.340 And this is what he wrote, Ford is personal friends with known homophobe Charles McVitie and endorsed Andrew Lawton as his candidate in London.
00:13:04.900 It's no surprise that he's now taking advice from a far right figure like Peterson.
00:13:11.560 So, again, so here we have the worldview of the NDP because Terrence Kernaghan is speaking for the NDP.
00:13:21.800 When you're an NDP member of provincial parliament and you speak out like that, you are speaking on behalf of your party until the party says you're not.
00:13:30.440 So Doug Ford and Jordan Peterson meet.
00:13:33.920 He meets Jordan Peterson as far right.
00:13:35.940 And then it becomes this conspiracy, this far right conspiracy of all the other far right hate-a-phobes that, you know, are meeting with Doug Ford.
00:13:46.320 And, you know, it becomes about me.
00:13:48.060 Oh, I was a Doug Ford candidate in London.
00:13:50.380 I'm a far right hate-a-phobe, he thinks.
00:13:52.160 And, oh, Charles McVitie, who's the head of Canada Christian College.
00:13:56.680 And I don't know Charles well.
00:13:58.480 I know that he believes what pretty much every evangelical Christian believes about a number of social issues.
00:14:04.800 I've never heard anyone say that he has treated individual people with hate or with phobia.
00:14:11.880 But it doesn't matter.
00:14:13.800 It honestly doesn't matter to these people because they lump everyone they disagree with in the same category.
00:14:20.980 So to an NDP member of provincial parliament, a school teacher by trade, you know, it's all just this far right friends group.
00:14:28.480 For Doug Ford, it's I'm part of it, Jordan Peterson.
00:14:30.700 And, by the way, I'm in good company with Jordan Peterson, Doug Ford, and myself.
00:14:34.220 I'm okay being in that club.
00:14:36.260 But it's that the NDP and clearly the CBC think that that club is in and of itself disqualifying of you.
00:14:44.720 They think that that is basically the thing that just pulls you out of the running from being a part of society when they frame a society in their terms.
00:14:53.960 And, you know, I want to talk about Peterson for a second because I know Jordan Peterson on a, some, on a, I wouldn't say he's a friend, but I know him on a partly social level.
00:15:07.180 I've crossed paths with him a number of times.
00:15:09.140 I've interviewed him.
00:15:10.180 I think he's genuinely a decent person.
00:15:12.700 And I think he's genuinely a misunderstood person.
00:15:16.600 And there are two reasons for that.
00:15:18.380 One is that the people that hate him, hate him.
00:15:21.660 And the other is that the people that love him want him to be everything to everyone.
00:15:27.460 And this has been one of the big, I don't want to say frustrations with Peterson, but frustrations with Jordan Peterson's fans.
00:15:33.580 Is that because people like him and respect him and value him and admire him so much, and because he is such a thoughtful and smart person, people want to hold up his view on pretty much everything as being the gold standard.
00:15:48.120 So, you know, they'll have him talk about gun control.
00:15:50.700 They'll have him talk about provincial politics.
00:15:53.020 They'll have him talk about free speech.
00:15:54.520 They'll have him talk about academia.
00:15:56.260 They'll have him talk about Cambodian rice tariffs, probably, if the interview goes long enough.
00:16:00.520 And it's not to say that he's not equipped to come up with an opinion on that, to study up, to read up.
00:16:05.400 But I feel like a lot of people try to make Peterson everything to everyone.
00:16:09.920 But irrespective of that, on the free speech issue, he's solid.
00:16:14.760 But anyone who's ever read his books or read his book, rather, talked to him at any great depth or even watched other interviews with him,
00:16:23.040 Jordan Peterson is not even someone you can characterize as a conventional right winger.
00:16:28.040 And this is what's fascinating.
00:16:30.620 I mean, he had NDP ties back in the day on economic issues.
00:16:34.640 He's not really – he doesn't really pontificate on them all that much anyway.
00:16:39.000 But he's not a far-right figure.
00:16:41.700 And it's fascinating to me.
00:16:43.580 Because he stands up for free speech, he's far-right.
00:16:47.520 That's all.
00:16:49.260 That's all you need to do.
00:16:50.300 Because he says, I don't like the idea of being forced by the power of the state to use a pronoun,
00:16:57.140 and I stand up for free speech in other areas, because he says that, he's far-right.
00:17:01.840 That's all it takes.
00:17:03.360 Far-right means that an NDPer thinks that you're disagreeable.
00:17:08.180 If an NDPer disagrees with you on something, you are far-right.
00:17:13.060 And the fact that an NDP member of provincial parliament is not now taking aim at Jordan Peterson and Doug Ford having a meeting,
00:17:21.100 and then lumping everyone he doesn't like into the same thing.
00:17:24.060 Oh, Charles McVitie, Andrew Lawton.
00:17:25.920 I mean, before you know it, if you find out that the janitor at Queen's Park voted conservative once,
00:17:30.240 and Doug Ford, you know, shook his hand in the hallway,
00:17:32.480 the janitor is probably going to be far-right before you know it. 0.86
00:17:35.200 And it's disgusting, and if you want to hear what's more disgusting,
00:17:38.700 and I find this to be hilarious, actually,
00:17:41.200 Terrence Kernaghan, who I don't think I've ever actually met.
00:17:44.820 I don't.
00:17:45.700 I saw him once I was driving home, and it was a rainy day.
00:17:48.980 This was like a month ago, and I saw him knocking on doors wearing a big orange poncho.
00:17:54.140 And I want it noted that I could have driven my car straight through the puddle and soaked him in the orange poncho,
00:17:59.080 and I didn't.
00:17:59.920 So I took the moral high ground when I saw this guy.
00:18:02.120 And then he goes, oh, Andrew Lawton's far-right, and Jordan Peterson, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:06.520 It's like you just insert a coin in these socialists, and they just go.
00:18:10.340 But he or someone in his office has been hiding.
00:18:15.240 I kid you not.
00:18:17.240 On his Facebook page, he or someone in his office has been hiding any of the comments on it
00:18:22.740 that are supportive of me or critical of him.
00:18:25.780 So he posted this link, and, you know, forward his personal friends, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:31.740 And you look at it, and Facebook says there are 19 comments as of this point.
00:18:37.620 Facebook says there are 19 comments.
00:18:39.420 You open them up, and two of them are there.
00:18:41.860 Two of them are there.
00:18:42.960 And I was seeing – last night I was checking this because it was kind of fun.
00:18:46.180 I'd see people that – because I shared his post on my page.
00:18:48.700 And I'd see people who were commenting, oh, I just gave them a piece of my mind.
00:18:52.140 And you go over, and it's someone saying, oh, Mr. Kernaghan, I disagree with you.
00:18:56.520 I think Andrew Lawton is a nice fellow, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:59.040 And hidden, hidden, hidden.
00:19:00.440 They were – someone was actively monitoring this, hiding any comment that he disagreed with.
00:19:07.900 But to be clear, this is his Facebook page.
00:19:10.120 I could not care less what he does with it.
00:19:13.340 But I find it hilarious because this is what you're dealing with.
00:19:16.880 And this is the same attitude, I think, that I'm going to make sure that no one on my Facebook sees comments that I disagree with,
00:19:24.340 that it looks like it's just some big love fest.
00:19:26.420 That's the same attitude that results in completely otherizing people that you encounter who you might not agree with.
00:19:34.840 Because when you start saying so-and-so's far right, that's the same attitude that creates a bubble and an echo chamber around you.
00:19:43.780 And it's that same attitude that is causing us a great many more problems and finding no solutions.
00:19:52.360 And the problem is that people do not want to reach across.
00:19:56.720 And, you know, I looked on Twitter.
00:19:58.140 He just got absolutely skewered for it.
00:20:00.000 And I normally don't get into Twitter fights.
00:20:02.300 I really can't be bothered.
00:20:03.640 But with this one, I responded because I know that he's a big boy, and he can handle it.
00:20:08.460 I don't want to do what, you know, people like Michael Corrin do and whatnot, which is just find some random on Twitter with three followers and try to ruin their life.
00:20:15.840 But if you find, you know, people that you disagree with that you know can take it, sure, I'll get into a back and forth with them.
00:20:22.700 But there's no back and forth.
00:20:24.180 And, in fact, if I commented on his Facebook, it would have been deleted by now.
00:20:27.040 So I could have written this great, you know, essay or something, but, you know, no one but myself would see it.
00:20:32.440 And it's embarrassing.
00:20:35.820 It's embarrassing when you are, first off, that thin-skinned. 1.00
00:20:39.500 But, secondly, when you believe that the Premier of Ontario, who believes in free speech, should not talk to someone else who believes in free speech.
00:20:47.760 And when you believe that that belief makes you far right, how do we get out of that hole?
00:20:56.420 And I don't think they want to get out of the hole.
00:20:58.300 I think they're okay with it.
00:20:59.720 And I've long said that it used to be, it absolutely used to be, where if a policy or a decision or a story or whatever was threatening somehow free speech,
00:21:13.320 that was an argument that could sell people.
00:21:15.820 You could say, well, actually, this thing that Person X said is not good because it threatens free speech.
00:21:21.860 Now the audience that you're saying that to does not necessarily agree that free speech is a good thing.
00:21:28.660 So if you say, well, Person X says this thing and that's anti-free speech, they're going to say, so what?
00:21:34.640 And you're going to have to go back a step and start selling them on whether free speech is a good thing.
00:21:40.960 And you won't get an agreement because now we've created this culture.
00:21:45.660 And I saw Jonathan Haidt, the professor who wrote the book, The Righteous Mind, is coming to Toronto in a few weeks.
00:21:51.040 And I'm going to try to go to that because he's a great guy.
00:21:53.880 But you look at this discussion that we're having about free speech, which shouldn't be a left-right issue.
00:22:00.700 And I know a great many people on the left that are unequivocally in support of free speech.
00:22:05.340 But they are part of that old guard of the left.
00:22:08.300 They're very much part of that old guard of the left, the people that were in that Paul Martin, Jean Chrétien era or even before of the Liberal Party or the NDPers even that were the actual countercultural activists of the 1960s that were fighting for freedom.
00:22:25.140 They were fighting against authoritarianism and they have little to no patience for the culture against free speech that we have now.
00:22:32.040 But the free speech question should not be left versus right.
00:22:37.940 And the number of people on the left that stand up for free speech is dwindling.
00:22:43.220 And the ones that do very quickly are pushed over.
00:22:47.380 And you look at Frances Widowson as a great example.
00:22:49.880 She's a Marxist.
00:22:51.140 She's an honest-to-goodness Marxist.
00:22:52.980 She's as left-wing as they come, but she has no patience for censorship. 1.00
00:22:58.320 And because of that, she's thrust away.
00:23:01.740 She's thrust aside by the left.
00:23:04.040 And Lindsay Shepard, again, a self-professed leftist, believes all the things liberals believe, still believes a lot of the things that liberals believe. 0.84
00:23:11.880 But because of her belief in free speech, she's a white supremacist.
00:23:14.600 Jordan Peterson, who, if you listen to his views, preaches personal responsibility, preaches against toxic masculinity, the real toxic masculinity, preaches about the importance of family, preaches about the importance of charity and compassion, all of these things.
00:23:32.260 And he's far-right and white supremacist because he believes in free speech.
00:23:36.600 The left has prioritized its hatred of free speech above its love of all other things.
00:23:42.420 I don't think if Tommy Douglas, the father of Medicare, were to come back from the grave and say, you know, I don't like censorship, I feel like he would be cast aside as being a white supremacist racist now.
00:23:55.720 And the same as anyone else that the liberals have lionized.
00:24:00.320 And CBC goes along with it.
00:24:02.220 And what's worse is that, I mean, CBC didn't in this story make any accusations.
00:24:07.820 CBC didn't say, oh, Jordan Peterson's far-right.
00:24:10.120 That was the NDP.
00:24:11.000 But CBC published this story, and you could tell they wanted to lead people to that conclusion.
00:24:17.700 Because by publishing this story, they're saying that it is newsworthy that Doug Ford met with Jordan Peterson, and it's newsworthy that neither tweeted about.
00:24:29.900 Do you tweet about everything you do?
00:24:31.560 Do you tweet?
00:24:32.100 And again, it would be petty, because then it would be, oh, Doug Ford bragging about the fact that he met with Jordan Peterson.
00:24:37.480 Like, there's no way to win.
00:24:39.040 These people hate you.
00:24:40.020 These people hate you.
00:24:42.560 They hate the right.
00:24:43.520 They hate what the right stands for.
00:24:45.520 And they hate the idea that you do not see the world the way they do.
00:24:51.240 And that's not everyone on the left, but it's the subset of that anti-free speech left that we need to be on guard for.
00:24:58.320 And this is something that is going to get worse before it gets better, because we're already seeing that decline.
00:25:05.360 We're already seeing that get worse.
00:25:06.820 I mean, my response, and I think Alex Pearson, who's a great radio host in Toronto, had the same response.
00:25:14.060 She retweeted the CBC story of, you know, Doug Ford met with Jordan Peterson, and she's like, who cares, or so what?
00:25:20.540 It was something like that.
00:25:21.680 And that was my reaction.
00:25:22.640 At first, I didn't even read the story.
00:25:24.520 I didn't even read the story because I didn't realize how much this might actually have been news worth.
00:25:29.760 And I, interestingly enough, last week, I think it was last week, it might have been two weeks ago, someone was sending me photos from some big public party.
00:25:39.600 It might have been Ford Fest that Doug Ford had in his backyard, or, no, it wouldn't have been Ford Fest because that was off-site, but some party, some big backyard barbecue Doug Ford had.
00:25:49.240 And there were pictures posted everywhere.
00:25:50.840 People were getting pictures with Doug Ford.
00:25:52.560 There were students there, and Jordan Peterson was there.
00:25:55.080 And I saw that, and I was like, oh, cool, Jordan Peterson went to Doug Ford's party.
00:25:58.100 I didn't, little did I know that could have been a news story.
00:26:02.400 If I just saved that picture, which was public, and posed it, and I said, Jordan Peterson photographed in the same country as Doug Ford, that would have been a story.
00:26:13.700 That would have been a story because two people that the left hates got in a room together, and the left cannot contain that much hatred.
00:26:22.060 That's really all there is to it.
00:26:23.800 The left cannot contain that much hatred when you put two people, that it's decided to declare the enemy in the same room.
00:26:32.180 And it's why it's so important to break through that mainstream media bubble.
00:26:35.700 I will give you just one little plug before I go here.
00:26:38.020 That's something we're doing at True North.
00:26:39.700 We're breaking through that bubble.
00:26:41.160 It's important work, especially in an election year, but we can't do it alone.
00:26:45.460 I've got a link in the chat over there.
00:26:47.260 That is not there at all.
00:26:48.240 It's over there.
00:26:48.740 I forget these things are in reverse.
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00:27:04.980 Andrew Lawton here for True North.
00:27:06.740 We'll be back next week.
00:27:08.080 Thank you.
00:27:08.620 God bless, and good day, Canada.
00:27:09.880 God bless, and good day.