Juno News - Trump lifts tariffs and Bob Rae bombs on Fox (ft. Franco Terrazzano & Kris Sims)

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:00:15.720 We're doing the show live today. We have so much news to get to you today. So basically,

00:00:21.000 yesterday, right after we finished recording our show, news came out that Mexico had negotiated

00:00:27.480 a deal with Donald Trump and that Trump was pausing the tariffs for Mexico. So there was a

00:00:32.520 glimmer of hope that maybe he would do the same for Canada. We heard that Justin Trudeau finally

00:00:37.920 got Trump on the phone. Remember on Saturday night, he said that he's been trying to call

00:00:41.740 Donald Trump. Donald Trump would not take his calls. Well, yesterday that changed. So Trump

00:00:45.960 and Trudeau had a call in the morning. They had a call in the afternoon. And it was after that

00:00:50.340 afternoon call that we learned that Trump had agreed to make the same concession to Canada

00:00:55.260 30 days in exchange for ramping up our efforts at the border. So it turns out it was all about

00:01:02.380 the border after all, as many of us said. So we're going to get to all of that. We're going

00:01:07.180 to fill you in on everything with regards to Trump and the tariffs. We're going to talk about Bob

00:01:12.220 Ray's disastrous appearance on Fox News last night. Dude, know your audience, know who you're

00:01:18.260 talking about. I have no idea why the Liberals sent this man out onto Fox News. It was a disaster.

00:01:23.180 We're going to talk about protectionism, talk about interprovincial trade barriers,

00:01:26.620 and we're also going to get into Elon Musk and the good work that he is doing down in the States

00:01:31.900 in dismantling many, many harmful elements of the federal government down there.

00:01:36.480 And I am very pleased today to be joined for the entire show by my friends from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:01:41.940 So I'm joined today by Franco Teresino, who is the federal director of the CTF.

00:01:46.680 Prior to his work with the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, he was a policy analyst at the Calgary Chamber of Commerce,

00:01:52.940 Also joined by my friend Chris Sims, who's the Alberta director.

00:01:55.700 Prior to this, she was a talk radio host on 580 CRFA.

00:02:00.980 Prior to that, she worked with me at Sun News Network.

00:02:03.340 Yes, back in the day, Chris Sims and I were colleagues over at Sun News.

00:02:07.280 Good times, Chris.

00:02:08.200 So Chris, Franco, thanks for joining the show.

00:02:11.140 Great to be here.

00:02:12.140 Yeah, thank you.

00:02:13.420 So let's get to the big news.

00:02:14.960 We heard that Trudeau says that Trump will pause the tariffs for 30 days.

00:02:21.160 He let us know yesterday on X. He said, I just had a good call with President Trump.

00:02:26.400 Canada is implementing our $1.3 billion border plan, reinforcing the border with choppers, technology, personnel, enhanced coordination with our American partners, increased resources to stop the flow of fentanyl.

00:02:38.880 Nearly 10,000 frontline personnel are and will be working at the border.

00:02:44.280 In addition, Canada is appointing a new fentanyl czar, and we have listed drug cartels as terrorists.

00:02:52.120 So basically, the whole new package, it looks like it's going to be costing $200 million.

00:02:58.000 I would say that that's $200 million well spent for taxpayers.

00:03:02.280 I would say that these are things that Justin Trudeau should have done two months ago when Trump was first elected and first started talking about it.

00:03:09.900 And before that, these are things that Trudeau should have done years and years and years ago to keep Canadians safe.

00:03:16.740 So, Franco, I'll start with you.

00:03:18.240 I know that the CTF doesn't like it when the government announces big new government programs and $200 million just off the cuff.

00:03:25.720 So I'm wondering what your reaction to all of this is.

00:03:28.400 Well, you know what we really don't like?

00:03:30.640 When governments hammer their own citizens with massive tax increases,

00:03:35.240 multi-billion dollar tax increases that make life more expensive. And that's exactly what a tariff

00:03:41.420 is. Okay. A tariff is a tax on your own consumers. So when Trump announced potential tariffs of goods

00:03:49.120 coming into the US, that is a tax paid for by American businesses and passed on to American

00:03:56.420 consumers. Okay. So when Trump imposed, let's say a 10% tax on Canadian oil, well, look,

00:04:02.800 the American refineries, pay that tax and pass the costs on to American consumers at the gas

00:04:09.120 pumps. Now, conversely, if a Canadian government imposes retaliatory tariffs, those are taxes on

00:04:17.600 Canadian businesses and Canadian consumers. That's what a tariff is. A tariff is a tax

00:04:23.700 and it makes prices in your own country increase. It expands the power of the government in your

00:04:30.580 own country to dictate trading relationships, whether that's with other countries or just what

00:04:36.040 you can buy at the store. So look, I am very happy to see that the tariff war, the tariffs,

00:04:41.820 at least for now, are not coming into place. I think all Canadians should oppose tariffs.

00:04:47.400 They are just taxes. And we all know that we don't need the government in Ottawa with any more money

00:04:52.700 or any more power over Canadians. Well, it's interesting because on Saturday,

00:04:57.220 when Trudeau announced retaliatory tariffs, I basically witnessed the entire country cheering

00:05:03.700 him on and applauding him and saying, yes, let's fight fire with fire. People from across the

00:05:08.280 political aisle, across the spectrum, all sort of cheering on this idea. And I wondered, when was

00:05:13.780 the last time Canadians were cheering for a 25% tax on most of the goods that we buy in the grocery

00:05:19.440 store and in the mall? Chris, what did you make of that? It was a little bit bizarre, right? So

00:05:27.220 little while before that before they were cheering on yay retaliatory tariffs I was amazed sitting

00:05:33.940 here in Alberta on how quickly dirty Alberta oil sands suddenly transmuted into Canadian energy

00:05:42.580 like wow that was amazing you know it's pretty rich if we've got the Ottawa set saying take our

00:05:50.180 stuff don't tariff our stuff meanwhile the east won't buy oil and gas or even accept it from the

00:05:56.980 west in the same country and so yeah that was pretty rich also i found the language uh from

00:06:04.740 that statement that was released by prime minister justin trudeau pretty eyebrow raising i don't

00:06:10.180 think i've seen half of those words come out of his mouth or from his fingertips ever before and

00:06:16.660 i will also point out that a person known as danielle smith the alberta premier was pushing

00:06:23.140 for a border czar for weeks. That's right. And she was pilloried in the mainstream Eastern-based

00:06:29.480 media. And now, look, all of a sudden, we have a czar to try to manage this. So it's good to see

00:06:36.480 that there were some adults in the room. I know I could hear a collective sigh of relief here in

00:06:42.040 Alberta when we were first facing 25% tariffs on our oil and gas, and it was knocked down to 10.

00:06:49.480 That was a bit of a reprieve. And now we have another month. But we can't waste this month. We've got to get stuff done. Like Franco has been pointing out, these tariffs are just trade taxes. So we have got to make sure that this government knows we don't want to go down this route again in 29 more days.

00:07:09.060 Absolutely. Well, that's something that Trump sort of alluded to. So I'll read you Trump. He posted on True Social after the call. And let me just read this. He says, Canada has agreed to ensure we have a secure northern border and to finally end the deadly scourge of drugs like fentanyl that have been pouring into our country, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans while destroying their families and communities all across the country.

00:07:34.480 Canada will implement their $1.3 billion border plan, as per Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, will be reinforcing the border with Chopper.

00:07:41.540 He goes on to sort of repeat what Trudeau said in his statement, but then this was the key part.

00:07:47.200 He says, as president, it is my responsibility to ensure the safety of all Americans, and I'm doing just that.

00:07:52.140 I'm very pleased with the initial outcome and that tariffs announced on Saturday will be paused for 30 days to see whether or not the final economic deal with Canada will be structured fairness for all.

00:08:06.000 So really kind of using some keywords there to say this is just an initial pause, right?

00:08:12.380 This isn't this isn't we're not done here.

00:08:14.280 We're not out of the woods.

00:08:15.760 Trump is just saying we're in this is an initial outcome.

00:08:18.740 We're pausing for 30 days, and then we will have our final economic deal with Canada.

00:08:24.720 So, Franco, I mean, from your perspective, like what can Canada be doing at this point,

00:08:30.340 aside from, you know, really, really taking serious border security?

00:08:35.240 And how do you think we should prepare for the next round of negotiations with Trump?

00:08:39.820 Well, you know, let me just nail down one more point on how tariffs are really taxes

00:08:44.200 and even retaliatory tariffs from the Trudeau government will hurt Canadians.

00:08:48.560 So the Canadian Chamber of Commerce looked at this when Trump was initially proposing 25% tariffs across the board.

00:08:56.080 Those tariffs from Trump would cost each Canadian about $1,300.

00:09:01.080 That's painful. I get it. I understand.

00:09:04.420 But you know what would make that pain even worse?

00:09:07.080 If the Trudeau government stepped in and imposed tariffs, i.e. taxes, on Canadians.

00:09:12.120 That cost would go from $1,300 a Canadian to about $1,900 a Canadian.

00:09:19.040 So, you know, when your friend is hurting themselves with a bad decision,

00:09:23.700 you don't fix the situation by also hurting yourself more.

00:09:27.280 So I just want to nail that point home.

00:09:29.540 Now, what does Trump want at the end of the day?

00:09:32.340 I don't know.

00:09:33.300 I really am not privy to what's going on in the White House.

00:09:36.180 What I do know is that Canada now must take the threat of tariffs seriously,

00:09:41.060 and we need to double down on what we should have been doing for a very long time and that's

00:09:46.600 unleashing Canada's economy. You want to push back against Mr. Trump the best way to do that

00:09:52.920 is to make Canada more competitive more successful than the United States. Okay like I've heard a lot

00:10:00.040 of people talk about the 670 billion dollars in natural resource projects that have been stalled

00:10:06.700 or canceled since 2015. You know what else is happening right around the corner? Another carbon

00:10:12.560 tax hike, right? A 19% increase to the carbon tax going up April 1. The carbon tax cost our economy

00:10:21.020 about $12 billion last year. It'll cost our economy about $30 billion by 2030. Immediately,

00:10:29.320 Canada could become more competitive by scrapping the carbon tax. We know that the United States

00:10:35.400 doesn't have a carbon tax the capital gains tax hike that the trudeau government wanted to impose

00:10:40.360 a 90 billion dollar hit to our economy so what can canada do to help canadians and to also push

00:10:47.880 back on the united states make canada competitive cut taxes cut red tape okay well we're definitely

00:10:55.320 going to get to all of the things that pier poliev is calling for including the inter-provincial uh

00:11:00.440 trade stuff but i i wanted to just stop for a second because so many people in the news you

00:11:05.080 you know, part of what we do here at True North and part of what we do on the Candace Malcolm

00:11:07.400 show is point out the fake news. And what I've been hearing so much over the past couple of,

00:11:12.680 well, the past 72 hours, but also the past few weeks is that the tariffs aren't really about

00:11:18.480 the border. It doesn't really have anything to do with securing the border, stopping fentanyl,

00:11:22.920 all the stuff that Trump said it was about. But really, it's like there's like a deeper

00:11:26.540 meaning here. So here we had the CBC, Murray Brewster saying, it is kind of shocking. It is

00:11:33.360 it is the kind of shocking rhetoric that chills national security experts and historians to the

00:11:37.640 bone, especially the ones steeped in the long-held American belief of that nation's exceptionalism,

00:11:43.500 a concept known as manifest destiny. We also had Mark Toohey, someone more on the conservative

00:11:52.080 side also, someone who used to be with us at Sun News there, Chris, saying on X the other day,

00:11:58.280 this is not about fentanyl. It's not about national security or defense. It's not about

00:12:03.800 trade. This is about American expansionism. And in Trump's own manifest destiny, he's coming for

00:12:09.580 our energy, our water, our land. I mean, these are just two examples. I don't mean to pick on those

00:12:13.480 two. But from what I heard, almost everyone in the media was hammering this point and saying,

00:12:19.620 you know, don't pay attention to the border. It's not about national security. It's not about all

00:12:24.480 these things that Trump says about no matter what we do, he's going to impose these tariffs because

00:12:28.540 he just wants to, like, take Canada. I always thought that that was like a negotiating thing.

00:12:32.980 And then that's just Trump doing what Trump does, which is kind of, you know, it's all about the

00:12:37.620 deal and negotiating. And, you know, sure, I think he would love for Canada to become the 51st state.

00:12:43.300 But I think he knows it's not going to happen. And I think that all of that posturing was just

00:12:48.200 about getting a better deal. Chris, I'm dying to hear your opinion on this. Like, what do you

00:12:54.180 make of our colleagues in the media, uh, saying that this wasn't really about what it was. And

00:12:58.540 then I think it kind of turned out to be about what exactly, uh, we thought it was about the

00:13:02.440 border and drugs. Yeah. Just taking off my CTF hat for a second, because, uh, I've been in the

00:13:07.680 game for a long time and I would strongly recommend for my dear friends who are in the

00:13:14.900 mainstream media, who are in the corridors of power, take a breath, take a serious chill pill.

00:13:22.080 Okay. Does Trump want to own Canada? Maybe. Maybe he thinks about it at night. Is it likely to have? No. I don't picture him planting the Star Spangled Banner like in Winnipeg somewhere. I will point this out.

00:13:39.280 the best way to understand someone is to listen very carefully to what they say especially over

00:13:47.280 decades thankfully donald trump has been in the public eye for decades since the late 70s he wrote

00:13:55.900 a book the art of the deal that you just mentioned wherein he describes doing exactly this come in

00:14:03.160 like a bull in a china shop make unreasonable demands get mad at the waiter like send your 0.71

00:14:08.840 dish back. And then by the end of it, you come up with a reasonable solution and you're the nice guy

00:14:14.740 all of a sudden. Your deal is made. This is like a repeated pattern. And so for the folks who are

00:14:22.000 in the mainstream media who have access to these documents, I would strongly recommend they read

00:14:26.920 them. Now, like, I don't, I'm not inside that, that gentleman's head. I'm not inside the president's

00:14:31.420 head, but we can see his pattern of operation here and we can apply it perhaps to our diplomacy

00:14:38.520 I will also point out, this is just a personal observation over decades of interviewing people

00:14:45.320 from all walks of life, okay? From homeless shelters to 24 Sussex. Listen carefully to what

00:14:52.740 people say about their lives and how they feel, okay? If you're dealing with something like

00:14:58.700 fentanyl, maybe you should start thinking long and hard about the two guys who are down there in the

00:15:04.680 White House, the president and the vice president. What are their hard opinions about things like

00:15:11.800 this? Think about it and then apply it. Now, again, is this all a ruse in order for him to

00:15:18.120 come up and, I don't know, steal beavers and lumber? Who knows? But if we take it at face

00:15:23.580 value right now, he said this is about the border. He said this is about fentanyl. If we hold up our

00:15:29.400 end of the deal, hopefully, we won't get into another issue that Franco has raised here of

00:15:35.220 these retaliatory tariffs, bit for bit, tit for tat. Because what that's going to do to get down

00:15:41.640 to the grocery store level, if we impose, Franco, correct me if I'm wrong, if we impose retaliatory

00:15:48.300 tariffs on everything, dollar for dollar, that's coming out of the United States, for example,

00:15:53.760 and I was listening to a gentleman who was with the Chamber of Commerce years ago,

00:15:57.760 He was saying that things like fresh produce, okay, our strawberries, our tomatoes, our lettuce, our cucumbers that are coming from California and New Mexico, we'd see like a 30, 35% increase in price because of retaliatory tariffs at the store.

00:16:18.120 I don't know about you guys, but we hear all the time from folks at the CTF all the time.

00:16:23.360 People are calling in, people are writing letters who can't afford things anymore.

00:16:27.540 They're at their breaking point.

00:16:29.580 They sure as heck can't afford a 30% increase in their cost of fresh fruits and vegetables at the store.

00:16:36.240 So it's super important for adults in the room to put their like really major fears aside here and their personal opinions and try their best to get a deal with this person.

00:16:49.700 I couldn't agree more. Even just as you were saying that, it made me think about, you know, J.D. Vance, the vice president, is someone who dealt with addiction in his own family with his own mother.

00:16:58.020 And Donald Trump says that he's never tasted alcohol in his entire life because his older brother was an addict, sadly succumbs to his addiction.

00:17:05.540 So both of them have dealt with it in their immediate families. No wonder it's such a big

00:17:10.600 deal. And I can't help but thinking that as well. I'll take it back to you, Franco, because, you

00:17:15.500 know, everybody in the Canadian political sphere was fighting mad over these tariffs, willing to

00:17:21.480 double down. And, you know, in this game of chicken, like really up the ante and say, we're

00:17:26.940 going to introduce our own. Not thinking about the reality on the ground, which is that we are

00:17:32.580 living through an unbelievable cost of living crisis in large part because of what happened

00:17:37.220 during covid um the fact that the government shut down the economy told everyone not to go to work

00:17:41.860 and then started paying people to stay at home obviously paying people and racking up lots and

00:17:46.260 lots of debt and starting uh the printing of money to keep up with that flooding flooding

00:17:50.580 the economy with with new money and driving up the price of everything um so what what came through

00:17:56.420 your head uh when when you thought of that and then also the idea that the the liberal government's

00:18:01.060 solution is that we need to have some kind of another pandemic style relief program,

00:18:07.660 relief program, like a second EI to pay people who might be impacted by these tariffs. And then

00:18:14.560 like on top of that, parliament's not even sitting. So I don't understand how we're even

00:18:18.680 going to have the money to do all this stuff. You bring up so many good points. And you know,

00:18:23.840 when I was watching all of this happen on Sunday and Monday, my thought was,

00:18:29.280 I wish they were just, you know, even a fraction of as upset with their own government taking more money from Canadians.

00:18:38.200 Because we've seen our own government hike taxes consistently, right?

00:18:42.560 As I just mentioned, April 1, a 19% increase to the carbon tax that is making the necessities of life here in Canada more expensive.

00:18:51.640 Well, Canada is a big place.

00:18:53.120 You got to drive.

00:18:54.440 Makes fueling up your car more expensive.

00:18:56.140 if Canada is a cold place, have to stay warm, makes heating your home more expensive, right?

00:19:01.120 Just a trip to the grocery store is made more expensive by the carbon tax. Not to mention the

00:19:06.240 fact that payroll taxes this year are also going up, will cost every worker about $5,500 at the

00:19:12.960 end of the threshold. Your employer is also paying more money, right? Alcohol taxes, millions of

00:19:18.340 dollars more being taken from Canadians this year through another tax hike. The capital gains tax

00:19:23.020 hike, which I know we'll get into, a $90 billion hole in our economy, 400,000 fewer jobs. So I do

00:19:31.100 think everyone has a right to worry about the... Whoops, I can't hear you there, Franco. Is that

00:19:42.480 just me? Can you hear him, Chris? No, no, unfortunately. But Franco is making a great

00:19:47.180 point there. When it's coming to things like the carbon tax increase, and what went through my

00:19:51.980 mind as well as he just figures out his audio there I'm sure it'll be fine what went through

00:19:56.600 my mind as well when they said oh we'll just do you know serve style payments again so number one

00:20:01.880 like nothing but sympathy for the people who were locked down out of their jobs and not able to work

00:20:07.540 and had their you know livelihoods taken away from them this isn't on the people this is on the

00:20:11.760 government from back during the lockdown times but the idea that we would just suddenly decide

00:20:17.080 to go back to Serb-style payments. With what money? With what money? The Trudeau government

00:20:23.880 has doubled the national debt. The national debt now stands at more than $1.2 trillion,

00:20:32.280 largely in part because they printed hundreds of billions of dollars out of thin air

00:20:38.600 during the so-called payments that they were handing out during the lockdowns.

00:20:42.600 and we don't have the cash on hand for that so what would they do we would just plunge ourselves

00:20:47.720 deeper into debt we would then probably print more money in order to cover off this issue

00:20:53.080 and so that's where it gets really frustrating of folks are still going to be on the hook for this

00:20:58.360 and they're being dragged along by this government's bad choices and you're exactly

00:21:03.000 right for raising issues like the carbon tax because that is going up again april 1st i'm

00:21:08.120 I'm getting a little bit concerned in that the mainstream narrative is now, oh, well, that's yesterday's issue.

00:21:13.540 No, it's not. It is not yesterday's issue.

00:21:15.820 It is still here. It is still going up.

00:21:18.800 All of the Liberal Party candidates have said basically they would squish it or change it or swap it out.

00:21:24.060 But the costs would still be there for Canadians.

00:21:27.220 And the carbon tax makes everything more expensive, of course, because it's a huge tax on things like gasoline, diesel and home heating.

00:21:33.700 And so this is where things get frustrating where, yes, it's actually good to see people kind of come together and actually pay attention and get riled up about something like a tariff threat, but they should focus that energy, frankly, about what their own government is doing to their pocketbooks.

00:21:49.500 I couldn't agree more. I think that the approach, especially by the Trudeau Liberals, has just been head scratching. And I'll bring it into this Bob Ray interview last night on Fox News. So Canada's United Nations ambassador, Bob Ray, obviously, he was a former interim leader of the Liberal Party. And before that, he was the NDP Premier of Ontario. Well, he was on with Fox News host Brett Baier last night. Brett Baier is not like a hard right opinion journalist. He is a straight news journalist.

00:22:18.120 he is the best that there is in the business and the best at Fox. And so he had Bob Ray on the show

00:22:25.400 last night. First of all, I don't know why they selected Bob Ray to go out and be the spokesman.

00:22:30.420 I think it's good that, hey, they're finally going on to Fox, right? For a while, we just saw

00:22:34.740 Melanie Jolie and Justin Trudeau going on MSNBC and CNN, which we know that Donald Trump doesn't

00:22:41.160 like those networks. So at least he's going on Fox now to talk to sort of the Republican base.

00:22:46.860 and we know that donald trump himself watches fox um i don't understand why bob ray was chosen

00:22:52.860 as the representative not just for the liberal government but for canadians it was truly

00:22:57.180 embarrassing to see him up there now um later in the interview uh brett bear took a quote from a

00:23:03.820 2017 op-ed that bob ray had written where he basically just says that donald trump is a

00:23:09.340 dictator he's not legitimate and he should not be welcome in canada so again this is the person that

00:23:14.540 they're choosing to speak for us. Let's play that clip. You wrote in 2017 that the determination of

00:23:21.480 many world leaders to try to normalize this leadership has to be brought to ground. He

00:23:25.500 should not be welcoming in our country. Speaking about not welcoming the president of the United

00:23:31.220 States to Canada. Well, first of all, I made that comment when I was in private life.

00:23:37.200 We've all said different things in private life. But if you said, has my opinion overall changed?

00:23:41.440 I would say to you very directly that the concern that I think all Canadians have, it's not a personal thing about President Trump.

00:23:49.300 The concern we have is that we don't want the administration making and taking decisions that are going to create insecurity, uncertainty and real collapses in the market at the at a in a way that's that's quite arbitrary.

00:24:06.360 so not a good moment there for bob ray i don't think that saying it was my private life really

00:24:12.840 cuts it one other clip i want to play from that basically the the problem that i have with bob

00:24:17.800 ray in part is his demeanor like he's just so moralistic and he sounds like he's lecturing

00:24:22.360 the audience and and sort of like telling them that they're wrong so here he is um talking about

00:24:29.080 the rules-based international order and why tariffs are wrong in the first place let's play that clip

00:24:35.200 There is a major trade deficit with Canada.

00:24:40.160 So to rectify that, they are saying,

00:24:43.720 what are you going to come to the table with beyond these border provisions

00:24:47.900 that the prime minister announced today?

00:24:49.780 Well, we have something called an agreement, a treaty, Brett,

00:24:53.340 between our two countries that's been signed, sealed and delivered.

00:24:56.540 Sure.

00:24:57.140 And it came out of the Trump administration.

00:24:59.060 That's right.

00:24:59.840 And before that, we had one over many, many years.

00:25:03.220 NAFTA was redone and before that we had an auto pact which went back to 1964 so

00:25:09.360 we've had a lot of agreements my point is you don't just threaten to do things

00:25:13.600 which end up causing huge challenges for both countries in the marketplace and

00:25:18.340 you don't do it by putting a tax on consumers and a tax on producers that's

00:25:22.900 going to end up making the economy less efficient you understand the trade

00:25:26.540 deficit argument I do but I want to put it to you that when it comes to the

00:25:30.520 overall economic relationship when it comes to services when it comes to tourism when it comes

00:25:36.040 to the number of canadians who are investing in a whole variety of ways in the united states

00:25:40.840 it's a win-win situation between our two countries so bob ray didn't get it done he didn't do what

00:25:48.760 he needed to do uh in front of the fox audience this interview is blowing up like all over social

00:25:54.440 media all over x all over youtube americans pointing out like who is this guy like f canada

00:25:59.400 um this is the kind of attitude frankly the like laurentian elite attitude that drives me crazy

00:26:04.760 and i think it drives americans crazy like the more that they see this side of canada the more

00:26:08.520 they really don't like canada and they're like yeah you know what uh we're gonna put you in the

00:26:13.080 same bucket that we put mexico and maybe like the europeans uh we don't like you uh this is a time

00:26:17.720 where we should be building inroads one of the things that really i think um frustrates canadians

00:26:23.800 frank i'll put this to you is that the americans say and trump says a lot there's a huge trade

00:26:28.520 deficit um i think danielle smith has been really effective in saying you know the reason that there

00:26:33.000 is a trade deficit for the united states is because of our oil and if you take oil out of

00:26:37.400 the picture it's actually a surplus for united states so the trade deficit comes on to canada

00:26:41.720 and the reason that americans buy so much of our oil is because it's plentiful readily available

00:26:47.880 and of course we sell it at a discount now we still had a discount because we don't have other

00:26:52.040 markets um but the idea is that we do have a special relationship we're trading oil back and

00:26:57.320 forth, wouldn't you much rather have our oil than, you know, Saudi dictatorship or Venezuelan oil?

00:27:03.560 I think that Bob Ray should have made that point. I didn't hear him talk about oil at all. So the

00:27:07.400 important part that he needed to correct, he didn't. Instead, he was being condescending and

00:27:11.960 rude and talking down to the host. And, you know, of course, that disastrous op-ed kind of

00:27:18.600 represents the view of the Liberal government, people like Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland,

00:27:22.600 who had during the first Trump administration, which is that Trump is terrible and we shouldn't

00:27:26.920 even deal with him i think it's all coming home true so why don't you take on the trade deficit

00:27:32.280 narrative and let me know what you think about that well first candace can you hear me now

00:27:36.760 yes yeah you're back all right just like one of those old verizon commercials happy to be back

00:27:41.240 with you guys so you know first i'm going through the chat that's going on live here and i just am

00:27:46.840 so happy how so many people are just saying yeah tariffs are just taxes we are already taxed to

00:27:52.040 death we don't need another tax that drives up the cost of living but look on the trade deficit part

00:27:58.040 i have a trade deficit with the grocery store i go to the grocery store and i pay for all the extra

00:28:05.480 lean ground beef that i'm gonna have right look that is a voluntary uh me going to the store and

00:28:12.120 paying money to get a service right just like the organization i work for has a trade deficit

00:28:17.960 with me they pay me to do what i'm doing now and to rail against the carbon tax right so that's all

00:28:24.920 that a trade deficit means now a trade deficit is not like a budgetary deficit where we should be

00:28:31.800 concerned right we are getting soaked because the trudeau government couldn't balance the budget of

00:28:36.680 a lemonade stand so we should care about budget deficits but a trade deficit is not the same

00:28:43.400 thing where we should be concerned with is when government intervenes to stop voluntary trade

00:28:51.960 when government intervenes with regulations like they do in the internal market which produces all

00:28:57.880 these internal trade barriers in canada or when government intervenes with massive tariffs that

00:29:04.200 is what we should be concerned about right so this trade deficit which i wish mr ray would have

00:29:11.080 explained clearly to the american audience when he had a chance to do so is not something that

00:29:17.000 those consumers should be should be worried of what consumers in america should be word worried

00:29:22.840 of is that the tariffs that mr trump imposes will directly raise the cost of living in the u.s

00:29:30.360 like what would happen if trudeau imposed tariffs in canada and also those tariffs also harm

00:29:37.560 industries like american manufacturing right it's these different types of government taxes

00:29:44.040 tariffs included that are what makes life more expensive in many times is what reduces jobs

00:29:50.600 that's what braubray should uh should have communicated to the american audience when he

00:29:55.320 had the chance well i i don't disagree that uh there's nothing inherently wrong with having a

00:30:01.720 trade deficit or surplus i will just say though like the concept of free trade is based on the

00:30:06.920 the principle of reciprocity and I think that the idea that we'll buy your stuff you buy our stuff

00:30:12.640 we'll open up our market you open up your market and we'll have like this mutually free market of

00:30:18.760 trade is the goal but can't I can't say that Canada actually lives up to that like if you look at

00:30:24.220 our own barriers our own protectionism like I mean just for goodness sake look at dairy the dairy

00:30:29.660 industry in Canada and how convoluted it is like I don't blame the Americans for having qualms and

00:30:35.420 I think that this is a great opportunity for Canada to get its house in order. I wish that

00:30:39.820 Bob Ray had made the points that you made Franco. Actually, I wish he hadn't have gone on Fox News

00:30:43.900 at all. I wish that Justin Trudeau had called you up and put you up on Fox News instead because you

00:30:48.220 could explain it a heck of a lot better. Can't you picture it? Wouldn't that be a great segment?

00:30:55.260 Jesse Waters, at least once a week, Franco, you got to go on Fox News. Let's make it happen,

00:31:00.940 Chris let's talk about interprovincial trade barriers let's talk about well first actually

00:31:06.220 let's talk about the premiers and all of the huffing and puffing that we saw in the last 72

00:31:11.100 hours it's all kind of falling apart so you know we have an election here in Ontario Doug Ford is

00:31:15.900 trying to get another majority mandate and he was kind of out being the loudest with retaliatory

00:31:21.900 measures against the trade bearers you know cancelling Starlink saying that the LCBO the

00:31:27.340 liquor store in ontario is no longer going to carry american whiskey or wine um and then of

00:31:32.620 course he had to undo all of that uh after after things changed yesterday afternoon chris what did

00:31:38.780 you think of all of the premiers you know on the one hand we're saying that tariffs are bad that

00:31:43.020 we don't want to have a trade war and then on the other hand we had premiers from just about every

00:31:46.860 province except for alberta uh jumping up and down saying like no to the americans you know it kind

00:31:52.140 kind of reminded me of like the 2003 moment where Americans stopped selling French fries and it

00:31:57.960 became freedom fries, right? And at the time, I just remember thinking it was so cheesy and so

00:32:02.360 silly. It was all because France refused to join the coalition to go and take part in the invasion

00:32:09.840 of Iraq, which turned out to be a disaster. But at the time, it was freedom fries. And I think

00:32:14.620 Canadians used to kind of like laugh and mock that idea that the Americans were so, you know,

00:32:18.540 down this rabbit hole of patriotism that they would you know take products off the shelf um and

00:32:23.580 yet i i saw canada's premiers doing that um over the last couple days so what did you what did you

00:32:28.940 make of all that so just at a human level uh i understand where somebody comes along and they

00:32:35.420 punch you in the nose you don't want to turtle right you don't want to like you know skate off 0.98

00:32:40.380 the ice you want to throw the gloves down too man like that's a normal i think human response 0.92

00:32:46.700 especially if you feel like you're defending your people. But to Franco's point all the time,

00:32:51.900 it gets back down to the facts and the data here. And that if we start throwing punches too,

00:32:58.780 we're going to get tied up in each other's sweaters, and we're going to wind up punching

00:33:01.980 ourselves. Right? So you don't want to wind up with constant tit for tat retaliatory tariffs,

00:33:07.900 because all they are our trade taxes, and it is going to make our pain even worse.

00:33:13.180 But on a human level, I understand, especially if you have to be seen as doing something.

00:33:19.760 I do think that Premier Smith's approach was much more an effective way of doing something,

00:33:26.520 and that is going right into the lion's den.

00:33:29.020 I think she has her own microphone now at Fox News Network.

00:33:32.960 She was on there all the time. 0.98

00:33:34.660 She was meeting them where they are.

00:33:36.500 She was speaking their language.

00:33:38.220 She was talking about deals.

00:33:39.540 She was talking about money, talking about energy, talking about security.

00:33:43.180 right? This idea of kind of fortress America. Hey, don't you want to have this great two-way

00:33:47.900 street when it comes to energy? I will point out, you know what it's like sometimes where you have

00:33:52.960 visitors come into your town and you're showing them around and you start noticing things yourself

00:33:57.520 for the first time, or it's that much more stark? Hearing it repeated over and over again on a major

00:34:04.480 news network that canada does not have a big east-west pipeline for our own energy from like

00:34:13.280 the pacific to the atlantic was crazy when you think about it it was almost like one of those

00:34:18.880 things where somebody overhears you saying it you're like wait that is kind of strange

00:34:22.320 so i think i think smith's approach was very effective um she withstood a lot of criticism

00:34:27.840 coming from the east. And again, it's in order to save us all huge economic pain. Because the idea

00:34:35.520 of having a retaliatory 25% tariff on our energy would have been disastrous for Albertans.

00:34:43.920 Like, I can't even picture it. It would have been horrific. And so it was really important

00:34:49.440 for premiers to stand up and do stuff. But that stuff had to actually be effective.

00:34:54.480 i haven't checked online yet this morning but i was kind of laughing to myself wondering if

00:34:59.440 premier ford had a ceremonial big roll of tape where he was taping his starlink contract back

00:35:05.440 together whether i did that i don't know yeah yeah i definitely saw a meme of that of him like

00:35:10.720 trying to keep it all back together i don't know if that was real or not but um probably not but

00:35:15.440 yeah so so you know doug ford had promised to rip up ontario's nearly 100 million dollar contract

00:35:22.640 with elon musk's starlink um elon musk who's hilarious uh just quote tweeted it and said oh

00:35:28.720 well um because you know when you're worth hundreds of billions of dollars um a measly

00:35:34.480 contract like that doesn't help and actually you know starlink is is probably a better service for

00:35:39.680 ontarians in rural areas to get internet um much cheaper than the alternative so again like you 1.00

00:35:45.440 know these reactionary things are not um usually that helpful well that that was sort of the i what

00:35:51.280 I saw as like the negative response in terms of all of this, you know, particularly when it came

00:35:57.280 to alcohol. Franco, you mentioned that Canadians pay ridiculous taxes already when it comes to

00:36:03.440 alcohol. We had Manitoba, Yukon, Nunavut, all in variations, pulling American alcohol from their

00:36:12.400 shelves only to, you know, go and restock it. Again, yesterday afternoon, I know out in British

00:36:17.360 columbia uh premier ebby said that they were going to ban alcohol from red states so um you know

00:36:23.440 don't don't punish california for uh the ills of donald trump i guess what's your take on all this

00:36:30.400 well my take is that i really am worried that the response to these potential tariffs

00:36:35.600 might do even more damage to canadians and like just ask yourself do you think that trudeau's

00:36:42.560 response, or maybe one of the other premiers, right, if they retaliate, do you think that's

00:36:47.760 going to make things better? Or do you think that's going to make things worse? What do you

00:36:52.620 think the governments or governments in the United States are going to do in response?

00:36:57.760 Right? Like, ask yourself that question. Now, we've mentioned many different times,

00:37:02.140 I'm seeing it in the chat that people understand that tariffs are just taxes, and they especially

00:37:07.100 harm the poorest and middle-class Canadians by making things more expensive. So I think the 0.94

00:37:13.320 question is, and to Chris's point, I understand that when somebody takes action against you,

00:37:19.380 you want to fight back. But again, the best way for Canada to actually fight back is to make

00:37:26.300 Canada's economy the most competitive ever. Now, I read Daniel Smith's post in the National Post

00:37:33.440 that I think was published on Sunday or Monday. And she mentioned that like, hey, folks, if we

00:37:39.180 want to actually push back, then we should make Canada's economy more competitive. And all that

00:37:44.960 starts with doing away with the massive regulatory burden that makes it nearly impossible to build

00:37:50.700 anything in Canada, right? Since 2015, folks, $670 billion of natural resource projects have

00:38:00.200 been stalled or cancelled. We know about the carbon tax, the second carbon tax buried in fuel

00:38:06.600 regulations that will also harm our economy to the tune of billions of dollars. The rejection

00:38:11.460 of the Northern Gateway Pipeline, moving the regulatory goalposts on the Energy East Pipeline,

00:38:18.520 right? The unconstitutional Bill C-69, the No More Pipelines Act, the discriminatory tanker ban

00:38:24.840 on Canada's West Coast. The story goes on and on and on. And look, I don't know if tariffs are

00:38:32.600 going to come back in a month, but regardless, we have to take this serious. And that means

00:38:38.080 unshackling us from the control of our government in Ottawa and the massive overstepping governments

00:38:45.080 in all the provinces. There's just so much irony. There's like layer and layer and layer of irony

00:38:50.800 upon the situation because justin trudeau got us into this mess in so many different meanings of

00:38:55.120 the word right he neglected the border he allowed drugs i mean legalized drugs and like paid fentanyl

00:39:01.920 dens essentially drug dens uh to give canadians deadly drugs um he you know opened up the border

00:39:08.320 never took seriously the holes in in the border places like rocks and road basically said to the

00:39:14.320 world's migrants and refugees come to canada we'll welcome you um so so the borders on justin trudeau

00:39:20.240 um his adversarial relationship with donald trump and just like painting himself in the public mind

00:39:26.160 as like the anti-trump and taking every opportunity him and his cabinet to undermine and slap trump

00:39:32.080 around i mean that's all coming back to us uh but then even when it came to the idea that we can't

00:39:36.640 we might not be able to trade with the united states in the same way that we used to and to

00:39:39.680 your point chris we don't even have a pipeline thanks to justin trudeau's anti uh development

00:39:45.840 anti-energy policy. So one of the good things that Pierre Polyev did was put out the call for

00:39:52.300 interprovincial trade. He put out a very snazzy mini documentary yesterday. Polyev's team does

00:39:57.740 video so, so well, so effective. And so I'll play just a clip. This is Pierre Polyev's video

00:40:04.380 highlighting the need to truly liberate trade within our own country.

00:40:08.880 It is reckless to remain so helplessly dependent on just one export market, the United States.

00:40:18.140 Canada must also look to sell to other countries, and I've found just the one.

00:40:24.080 There's only one problem.

00:40:25.720 This country imposes massive trade barriers on us that cost about $5,100 per person.

00:40:33.180 So which country is it that we should be pursuing as our new top trading partner?

00:40:38.880 Switzerland? France? No. Our new top trading partner will be Canada.

00:40:48.940 Very, very effective. Very funny. Pierre doing what he does best there. Well, it's almost

00:40:53.840 interesting because when it came to the tariffs, there was a weird consensus where everybody,

00:40:58.280 even reluctantly, Danielle Smith at the end said, we have to go with the retaliatory tariffs. 0.99

00:41:03.600 And then now when it comes to the idea of opening up interprovincial trade,

00:41:07.160 There also seems to be a bit of a consensus. We had Anita Anand also advocating for removing

00:41:13.920 interperimental barriers, saying it's fundamentally important. Let's play that clip.

00:41:20.160 The issue relating to internal trade, reducing barriers inside our own country to trade and

00:41:27.180 commerce is fundamentally important, especially at this time. And the Prime Minister has charged

00:41:32.680 me with that responsibility as minister of internal trade and so that's what i'm focusing on

00:41:39.320 what she's focusing on i don't know that she's made any inroads there chris what do you think

00:41:43.080 of all this it just goes back to okay so inter-provincial trade barriers this has been

00:41:50.680 going on for so long like before franco was born before most of us i bet you were born this has

00:41:59.160 been an issue. Perrin Beattie, okay, who worked with the Mulroney government, has been talking

00:42:05.960 about this literally for decades. The idea that now at like 11.59, 30 seconds before we're supposed

00:42:15.400 to get a trade tariff over our heads, that now all of a sudden we should fix this. Yeah, you guys,

00:42:21.720 all across governments, all parties, pox on all their houses, they should have done this decades

00:42:27.080 ago. So if we're going to do it now, okay. But I really am asking, pleading with the governments to

00:42:36.760 focus. Don't have attention deficit on this. Get this done. Get things like interprovincial trade

00:42:43.240 barriers down. Stop insane things like Bill C-69, no more pipelines laws, so that we aren't

00:42:49.880 strangling ourselves and shackling ourselves and tying ourselves to one customer. These are all

00:42:55.320 such common sense things that should transcend like party affiliation that it needs to be so

00:43:03.020 done. And again, getting back to Franco's point all the time is that these tariffs are just higher

00:43:09.680 taxes. They're just called something slightly different. And I have to stress, people can't

00:43:16.660 afford anymore. Like they are tapped out. About half, about half of Canadians now, Candice,

00:43:23.100 are within $200 of not making their minimum payments on their bills every month. Meaning

00:43:31.400 keeping the lights on, the rent paid, and stopping the credit card company from phoning you. You're

00:43:37.180 not paying it off. You're just making the minimum payment. Half of Canadians now are in that boat.

00:43:43.120 The idea that we would just willingly take tax hikes inflicted by our own government is crazy.

00:43:49.160 And so I really do hope this is the I've hit bottom. This is a wake up call. And we're going to fix so many of these problems.

00:43:56.820 I really hope it was to continue your metaphor. You know, it was the quarter to midnight scare back in the 90s where Canada basically almost defaulted on their debt.

00:44:05.320 We didn't have a buyer for a bond. And that was a wake up call.

00:44:08.560 We needed to drastically reduce the federal government and get rid of a lot of the growth that happened under the first Trudeau.

00:44:14.480 I wonder if this is our quarter to midnight, or to use Chris Sims' metaphor there, it's 11.59 in like 38 seconds or 59 seconds.

00:44:24.100 Franco, what do you think?

00:44:25.920 Oh, we've got to get our house in order.

00:44:28.320 Like, it's getting outrageous.

00:44:29.880 In less than a decade, the Trudeau government doubled the debt.

00:44:33.340 In less than a decade.

00:44:35.400 Okay?

00:44:36.100 Folks, interest charges on the federal debt are costing taxpayers more than a billion dollars every single week.

00:44:44.260 That's the cost of building a hospital gone because that money is going to the bond fund

00:44:49.240 managers on Bay Street to pay interest on the federal debt. Let's put that one more in one

00:44:54.700 more perspective. Okay. Every time you're lining up at the checkout, every single dollar you pay

00:45:00.940 in federal sales tax goes to pay interest on Trudeau's debt. So it is long past time to get

00:45:08.440 this under control. And, and, you know, the wake up call really is what's going on in the United

00:45:13.460 States, right? The department of government efficiency, where they're slashing regulations,

00:45:18.160 they're cutting wasteful spending, they're restructuring government agencies. I mean,

00:45:23.180 look at here in Canada, right? Where you have bureaucrats in Ottawa tripping over themselves.

00:45:27.780 There's so many. Okay. So since Trudeau came to power, he's added more than a hundred thousand

00:45:33.620 extra government bureaucrats. The average compensation for a federal bureaucrat is $125,000

00:45:40.760 a year. When you look at their salary, bonuses, perks, pensions, $125,000 a year. The cost of

00:45:48.400 the bureaucracy in Ottawa has gone up 73% under Trudeau. 73%. I think I can go on a limb here

00:45:58.040 and say that unless you're working for the government,

00:46:01.380 no Canadian is getting anywhere close to 73% services better from the federal government.

00:46:08.460 Not even close.

00:46:09.460 And then the bonuses, right?

00:46:11.600 Candice, on your show, we've talked about all the bonuses going out to the CBC, right?

00:46:17.120 $18 million last year where CBC executives are taking bonuses that are bigger

00:46:22.140 than what the average Canadian worker makes an entire year.

00:46:25.480 Well, this bonus scandal is happening all across the departments, all across the Crown Corporation, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation.

00:46:35.460 They like to claim, oh, we have one overarching objective, housing affordability for all.

00:46:41.960 Well, newsflash, they haven't been able to afford a home for years.

00:46:46.700 Meanwhile, the CMHC has rubber stamped more than $100 million in bonuses since the beginning of 2020.

00:46:53.220 So Candace, this should be a wake up call for the federal government or for any politician

00:46:57.580 that wants to be a champion of taxpayers.

00:47:00.640 We need to cut government wasteful spending and we need to cut it now.

00:47:04.460 Well, we are going to get to doge at the very end of the show, Franco.

00:47:07.260 So I'm excited to hear your perspective on that.

00:47:09.660 I think I can guess what you're going to say.

00:47:11.440 It's his favorite.

00:47:13.700 But I do just want to stay for a moment on the interventional trade barriers because

00:47:17.720 you're right, Chris, this is something that we have been hearing for like decades, as

00:47:21.760 long as I can remember. And I think part of the problem now, I'm going to share a tweet that I

00:47:25.460 put up, not saying that this is, you know, a popular opinion. But basically, I quote tweeted

00:47:31.760 an economist who was a former policy advisor to Quebec's Minister of Finance. And he was walking

00:47:36.700 us through why we haven't eliminated interprovincial trade. I, you know, posted to saying

00:47:42.620 because Canada is not a real country. Basically, we're just a decentralized federation where

00:47:46.980 provincial gatekeepers have built perfectionist fiefdoms. Because when you read the thread

00:47:53.480 from this individual, Jean-Philippe Fournier, you realize just how difficult it is to eliminate

00:48:00.220 these barriers because they're so entrenched in the makeup of our entire country, which is

00:48:06.840 basically that we have a weak federal government and strong provincial governments. That is the

00:48:11.460 purpose. You can take that down, Sean. That is kind of the concept of Canada, right? We have

00:48:16.640 these super different regions that don't really have all that much in common. So we let the

00:48:20.300 provinces take the bulk share of responsibility. The federal government's job is really just to

00:48:25.440 keep us safe, have a military, and basically just make sure everyone gets along. I'm not saying that

00:48:32.200 we do a very good job at that. We don't. But most of the responsibilities fall into the provinces.

00:48:37.400 So I'll just read a little bit of what Fournier says here. He writes, at one point, the minister

00:48:42.300 asked us, again, he worked for Quebec's Minister of Finance. He said, at one point, the minister

00:48:46.880 asked us to look into low hanging fruit to liberalize and improve free trade between Quebec

00:48:52.240 and the other provinces. The cost of these apparent barriers, we were told, were so high that even

00:48:57.200 quick wins would surely give us a little bit of a boost. No, well, it turns out not really. Other

00:49:03.280 than the very stupid rules on alcohol, the so-called interprovincial trade barriers are all 0.99

00:49:08.360 regulatory in nature in other words they're the result of 10 provinces introducing rules and 0.99

00:49:13.400 regulations for all other sorts of things and slowly diverging these rules don't ever target

00:49:19.160 other provinces directly they're all just rules that kind of touch every other aspect of our lives

00:49:25.000 but were made without taking into account what other provinces were doing diverging regulatory

00:49:30.840 creep and so i think this helps us sort of understand why like like he goes on to give a

00:49:37.160 bunch of examples like you know there might be a rule when it comes to car seats and how they are

00:49:41.720 manufactured what kind of material they can be used in quebec and that differs incredibly from

00:49:47.160 like province to province so because of that a province you know a car seat made in quebec can't 0.68

00:49:52.440 actually be sold in ontario and vice versa and this happens like across every industry most of

00:49:57.560 the industries are regulated by like professional organizations so like a health organization or

00:50:03.880 teachers you know it's like when you get trained in one province your training might not actually

00:50:08.440 qualify you to do that job in a province so so how can we fix this how like what what is it that

00:50:13.560 can be done to fix this do you mind if i step in here because before i was with the canadian

00:50:18.520 taxpayers federation i worked for the canadian constitution foundation and that's when we were

00:50:22.840 doing the free the beer campaign right all the way up to the supreme court of canada so i was

00:50:27.960 tasked with writing the report on these internal trade barriers and you know they are very costly

00:50:33.320 to Canada's economy. I mean, I've heard estimates of up to $200 billion. And when I was doing a

00:50:39.420 report on this, I found that some businesses had an easier time trading with US states than with

00:50:46.720 other Canadian provinces. So Candace, I think your tweet has a lot of validity to it. Now,

00:50:53.320 a couple things to remember. Number one is I do think decentralization is a good thing,

00:50:58.360 right? I don't want Ottawa overstepping where they shouldn't. I mean, we've seen them do that

00:51:03.500 so many times with energy and environment regulations that hammer the provinces and

00:51:08.160 provincial taxpayers. But the two reasons why we have these internal trade barriers is number one,

00:51:15.160 you have a whole bunch of bureaucrats within provincial governments who are looking for

00:51:19.780 make work projects, right? They're looking for things to do because we have so many of them

00:51:25.040 employed in the provincial governments that if they didn't have things to do, they would be

00:51:29.140 fired. So they're always looking for things to do and things to regulate. It's kind of like a nanny

00:51:34.860 state, if I can use that term of reference, right? So that's number one, too many bureaucrats

00:51:41.100 everywhere meddling in people's affairs where they don't need to be. The second is pure, in a sense,

00:51:48.680 corporate welfare, where you have these provincial politicians, provincial governments, and also

00:51:54.100 businesses lobbying the provincial government to have regulatory barriers that protect themselves

00:52:02.420 from other businesses and that all comes to the detriment of internal trade it all comes to the

00:52:07.940 detriment of consumer choice and it all comes to the detriment of consumers who now have to face

00:52:13.700 higher prices because provincial governments have set up regulations to as a barrier to competition

00:52:21.300 more choice and lower prices well i think that makes it really clear what the problem is and i

00:52:27.220 i do wonder i mean i again i can guess what you're going to say because i think this is a perfect

00:52:31.060 segue into what elon musk is doing with department of government efficiency and doge um you know you

00:52:36.420 have a bureaucracy that is massive and you have the mindset of a nanny state um you know how can

00:52:42.820 we change that uh do you think that canada needs its own version of doge and uh question to you

00:52:48.660 franco are you gonna are you willing to run it i don't need to run it we've done our homework

00:52:54.180 online i just want the government to cheat off the homework that's already there but hey i could

00:52:59.460 definitely tell you we need some government efficiency here in canada folks if you got any

00:53:03.540 kids in the room earmuffs i promise you i'm not making this up 8 800 bucks on a sex toy show in

00:53:11.220 germany that is the type of money the federal government is spending our our uh our funds on

00:53:17.220 i've got a better one for you 12 000 bucks to pay senior citizens in other countries to talk about

00:53:23.860 their sex lives in front of live audiences folks these aren't even canadian seniors we're outsourcing

00:53:31.940 old people sex stories okay so yes we desperately need some type of government efficiency here in

00:53:39.140 canada um here's a couple other examples one department global affairs canada spending 51

00:53:47.140 000 a month on booze all paid for by the taxpayer 51 grand a month on booze included in that was a

00:53:56.820 thousand dollar booze filled trivia night and candace you'll uh appreciate this next example

00:54:03.860 i'm going to to make the government is spending millions of dollars on government podcasts

00:54:11.140 that nobody listens to like how do you even spend millions of dollars on podcasts

00:54:19.300 can i just jump in here um so yeah like franco again every time i pick franco up at the airport

00:54:25.060 he's talking about the the sex toy show in germany and how much we spent on this because

00:54:31.380 it's so crazy i do encourage people you know not safe for work but do look it up there's pictures

00:54:36.900 of these things and you paid for this stuff um to to exactly what franco just pointed out there i

00:54:42.580 have to point out this isn't the government wasting taxpayers money on other people's podcasts so it's

00:54:50.180 not like when they're funding mainstream media and putting journalists on the government payroll

00:54:54.180 making them propagandists okay like that's bad enough no no the nerds at the departments 0.84

00:55:01.920 themselves are talking to each other with microphones and cameras they are making podcasts

00:55:09.120 that we are all paying for i was reading through some of the topics like they're literally talking

00:55:14.940 about like gay ghosts like lgbtq plus and the paranormal like what i mean unbelievable if i

00:55:23.760 want to listen to that. That's my business, okay? But I shouldn't be making taxpayers pay for that

00:55:30.180 stuff. And so, yeah, to exactly Franco's point, and you'll understand too from your time, Candace,

00:55:35.500 at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, all this homework is done. Take it. Take it. Go back

00:55:41.380 through our 20-something years of Teddy Waste Awards, okay, where we hand out our golden pig

00:55:46.900 statues to politicians and bureaucrats that waste your money, and take it. Steal it. Take all those

00:55:53.340 ideas, cut all of that waste. We've already got this stuff done. I think that can be done on day

00:55:59.040 one. I really do hope that Pierre Polyev goes down this path. I think so much of what Elon Musk

00:56:04.380 and frankly, Donald Trump with his executive orders, what he has done for his country in the

00:56:09.540 first just what, two, three weeks in office here has been incredible. One of the things I was

00:56:14.100 cheering over was Elon Musk is taking aim at what he calls the viper's nest federal agency with a

00:56:20.100 global footprint, which is USAID or USAID, unbelievable organization. I looked it up.

00:56:26.820 Well, I tried to look it up. Funny fact, I tried to look up the budget of this organization,

00:56:30.260 something around 42, 40 to $45 billion. But when I went to click on the website for USAID,

00:56:36.460 it just took me to a page not found site because when Elon Musk is getting rid of a government

00:56:41.060 agency, like he is getting rid of it. So Fox News reported that more than 50 senior staff members

00:56:48.580 replaced on administrative leave basically he's just going in and saying like what does this

00:56:53.200 organization do why is it spending so much money you know not even the ridiculous examples the

00:56:58.480 low-hanging fruit that we could just get rid of because it's so absurd and insulting to the public

00:57:03.800 that taxpayers money would go to things like the things that you're describing um but but like why

00:57:07.820 not rethink the entire organization like take a step even further back and say yeah we shouldn't

00:57:12.600 have these sex toys things we shouldn't have these podcasts but what department is it coming out of

00:57:17.160 like why do we have a department of heritage why do we have a federal health department you know

00:57:21.800 health is under the jurisdiction of the provinces why do we even have it i would love to see the

00:57:26.520 approach um you know really just just taking a huge step back and saying uh let's rethink what

00:57:32.200 the purpose of government is uh let's use this opportunity and i really hope that i hope pier

00:57:37.240 poly of taps the two of you um and puts you on his canadian uh doge commission i don't know if

00:57:42.040 he will but i think that would be the way to go okay folks we got to wrap it up at that it's been

00:57:46.200 been such a pleasure to have you. Franco and Chris, thank you so much for joining the show. I hope to

00:57:49.560 have you back in the future. Thank you. Thanks. All right, folks. Well, this has been a live

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