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- December 05, 2024
Trump trolls Canadaļ¼ Tariffs, AI Memes, and Trudeauās new positionļ¼
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Misogynist Sentences
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Hate Speech Sentences
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Welcome back to the third episode of Northern Dispatch.
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My name is Harrison Faulkner and I'm joined as always by our co-hosts on the program,
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Ryan and Tonya from Northern Perspective.
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Well, it's been an incredible week once again, Donald Trump is still dominating the news.
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He is living rent free in the mainstream media journalists heads and I imagine guys, he'll
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end up, you'll end up staying there for the next four years.
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I think that's pretty much a safe bet at this point.
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What have you guys made of the news this week?
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Well, you said it, I think media and content creators are thrilled that Donald Trump is
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going to be back in the White House.
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I think we learned from the first time around, there's not going to be a day that goes by
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without something to talk about regarding Donald Trump.
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With the magical dinner that happened over the weekend with Justin Trudeau, where he initially
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came back and said, oh, it was a great conversation.
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Everything went well and then we learned what really happened.
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I think it's going to be an interesting four years for Canada, starting with the first day
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he's in office.
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Yeah, I think that's right.
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Yeah.
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I think, um, uh, the liberals tried to play it off as, oh, it was so much fun.
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It, you know, Trump was joking with us.
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It was great.
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I don't really think he was joking with them.
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I think he was demeaning them.
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Um, but you wouldn't know that if you talk to the Canadian mainstream media.
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Yeah.
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They don't seem to understand what's a joke and what isn't.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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And as, as should have been expected with all of the evidence we have, this was going
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to be a bullying session.
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Trump was going to have his way with Justin Trudeau.
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Um, and when we found, when we were, when we were being told that it was a great success
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for the Canadians, I think most Canadians with some critical thinking skills could see that
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that was just good spin.
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Before we get into the show, we've got a lot of clips.
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We're going to go through a lot of what's been happening because the news is coming thick
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and fast here.
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We have to get to the results of our last episode, a poll.
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And the question we had last episode was, do you support Donald Trump's 25% tariff threat?
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And it wasn't even close, uh, 80% of respondents said they do support Donald Trump's 25% tariff
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threat.
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Only 20% said no.
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Uh, I mean, what did you guys make of that result?
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I, I, I, I'm not surprised to hear it, but I think we should, uh, we should remember that
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we are supposed to be supporting our country here.
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25% to 25% tariff would be disastrous for us.
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Yeah, I think that's the truth is that it will be disastrous for us, but I think many Canadians
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are seeing that this is the thing that finally kicked Justin Trudeau in the butt to start examining
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our situation at the borders and to start examining our immigration policies.
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And maybe that's not so bad.
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Well, and I also think that Canadians across the country that have been screaming about
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the fentanyl issues, the drug issues, the border issues, the immigration issues.
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Um, this was almost a call it a third party validation of everything that they've been screaming
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about for the last few years.
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And, um, uh, the fact that Trudeau has essentially, you know, responded to the snapping of the fingers
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of, of his master, the president, the future president of the United States, a, it makes
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him look weak, but at the same time, it's, it's getting him in line.
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And I think, I think what Canadians are saying when they support the threat, they support
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the threat.
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They don't support the implementation because the threat is actually getting things done
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up here.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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And I think, I think Canadians are realizing that what they think and what they want, how
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they respond to, to polling isn't going to influence the political, uh, situation in
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this country at all.
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Because when it comes to immigration, the polling has been out for years now that the majority of
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Canadians wanted the, wanted the immigration controlled and the government just wasn't
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responding, wasn't listening.
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And all it took was a Donald Trump getting elected and a threatening to tariff the country
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to death.
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And that's basically what this would do.
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Let's get into the comments from last episode as well.
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We're, as we, as we said before, we're going to read out some of the comments that get the
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most likes, and then we'll get to the next poll question.
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The first comment we have comes from new life on our last episode.
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And this user writes, I applaud Trump and his decision.
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It says to force Canada to shut the border.
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If our own government won't do it, then a partner in the U S has every right to impose
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sanctions.
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Borders are important and Canada is full.
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Going back to what we all discussed.
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I mean, that's clearly what's going on here.
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The U S president has put his foot down and dictated, uh, what, what is going to happen
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for our country.
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And I think Canadians would like the results if we do get control of our border.
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And next one is from Richard first rate, uh, zero four night.
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I believe Trump is putting one more finishing nail in Trudy's coffin.
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And Trump absolutely knows the mess north of the border.
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He is in Canada's conservatives corner.
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Yeah.
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I think this is another, uh, uh, another indication of the fact that Trump's going to do what Trump's
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going to do, and I actually don't know if he really cares what happens, uh, up here.
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He may think that, uh, pure poly of might be a little easier to deal with.
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He may not.
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But one thing that he does know is that, um, Trudeau essentially stabbed him in the back
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in, in one of the press conferences.
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And I don't think Trump has had any respect for Trudeau since then.
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And he, he knows that, uh, he, he has Trudeau's number.
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So he will take any and every opportunity to publicly humiliate Justin Trudeau and show
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him as the fraud leader that he is.
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And our final comment comes from Tricia Sullivan, seven, nine, seven, eight.
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He meaning Trump has every right to want a safe border.
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As do we, maybe this will push for Canada to clean up too.
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That's what the tariffs are meant to do, make both countries safer, then we will be able
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to negotiate in a friendly manner.
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And I think that's a good point, um, that these tariffs, or at least the threat of these
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tariffs are meant to get Canada in gear, get us, start protecting our own border, and then
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we can negotiate with the Americans fairly and freely.
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Well, and I think the other thing that this does for Trump is he's going to, he's going
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to come into office already bragging that look, look, look at what I've already done.
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And I haven't even been in office yet.
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So, um, I think he's going to take that as an early win in, in his narrative of safeguarding
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the Northern border.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I don't want to get too into the weeds of, of us, uh, diplomatic politics, but I think
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you're right about that.
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Donald Trump is making threats, not only to Canada and Mexico regarding tariffs, but he's
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also making threats in the Middle East and forcing people to try to fall in line.
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And he could be able to claim victory on day one over a number of, of serious, uh, foreign
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issues like Gaza and Israel.
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I think that he will likely end up coming, coming through with that similar to what Reagan
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was able to accomplish on his first day with the Iran hostage deal.
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There might be something there with Gaza, but that's a bit, you know, we're, we're going,
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we're going to a little deep into American politics there.
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Let's bring it back to the Canadian angle and let's start with what has set the Canadian
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media alight this week.
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And that all has to do, of course, with the dinner that Trudeau had with Donald Trump on
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Friday night.
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Immediately after that, we started to hear reports from Canadian legacy media that it
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was a success for Canada, that Justin Trudeau and Katie Telford and Dominic LeBlanc showed
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up as team Canada and were successful at getting Trump to recognize the differences between Mexico
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and Canada when it comes to immigration and drugs.
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That's a pretty low bar.
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I think, uh, I think all of us on this call on this show could be successful at doing
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that because really there is no comparison when it comes to both countries.
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However, it wasn't long until the United States and the American media came in with the other
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side of the story, probably the truth about what happened at that dinner.
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And this is what Fox news host Peter Doocy said on, on Monday night about what really happened
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at that dinner.
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Take a listen.
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And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump-Trudeau dinner from two people
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who were at the table.
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We are told that when Trudeau told President-elect Trump that new tariffs would kill the Canadian
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economy, Trump joked to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the U.S.
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to the tune of $100 billion a year, then maybe Canada should become the 51st state and Trudeau
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could become its governor.
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So there we go.
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Ryan, apparently Donald Trump actually said that if Canada can't survive a 25% tariff when
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we are ripping them off to the tune of $100 billion, maybe we should just become the 51st
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state and Trudeau can become the governor of the country.
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Ouch.
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Yeah, and I guess, you know, what they're saying, what happened after that was there
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was some nervous laughter from Justin Trudeau and Dominic LeBlanc.
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And I really think about how the Canadian media is now trying to spin this because first it
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was, oh, you know, we had a great conversation, yada, yada, yada, everything's going to be fine.
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And then this story drops and now they're all in damage control.
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And now the Canadian media is saying, oh, well, it's actually a good thing that they
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were making fun of Canada because that actually shows that there's a camaraderie between them.
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Like, are you kidding?
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Seriously, are you kidding?
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Have you seen what Donald Trump has said about Justin Trudeau after Trudeau tried to come
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out as the big tough guy after their one meeting?
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So I don't think that that is, you know, going to fly with the Canadian public.
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And I think about if Pierre Polyev was in that situation, I think you probably would
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have heard a shot back from him because you see this all the time from Pierre Polyev
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in question period in debates.
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He's very good at thinking on his feet.
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And I think Trump would have respected a shot back from Pierre Polyev and probably would
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have given a handshake after that.
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But this is Justin Trudeau, and he just folded like a cheap suit.
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Yeah, the Canadian media is trying to pass this off as, oh, it was just a joke.
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It was just a joke.
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Maybe it was a joke, but I think it was one of those jokes that has some truth to it and
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is meant to sting.
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I mean, we all know the kind that we're talking about here.
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And I don't think it was just lighthearted fun.
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I think it was meant to send a message.
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Oh, I think absolutely.
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I'm sure it was meant to send a message.
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And, you know, we all know Donald Trump to be a joker, to use humor as a political weapon
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and a very effective weapon at that.
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It has been for him in the past.
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But, you know, I want to ask you this, Ryan.
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What do you think Pierre Polyev would have said?
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I mean, it's a tough position to imagine being in the president joking about annexing the country
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and all that face to face with that guy.
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What do you think you could even say back to that?
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I don't even know how you would respond to something like that.
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Well, it'd be kind of difficult because you would have to take into the context where is Canada at that point
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with Pierre Polyev?
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How long has he been in power?
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What has he been able to do?
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If we kind of take the same time period, let's say he's been in office for three or four years at that point,
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he probably would have done a lot.
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But he probably would have, you know, shot back something about Trump's campaign
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or he probably would have made a lighthearted comment about Kamala Harris
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or even Trump's legal situation as a, you know, kind of a bar back,
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just sending a message of his own saying, yeah, you know, you can be clever, but so can I.
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And, you know, we're a small country as Canada, but small doesn't necessarily mean we're a country to be trifled with
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because you get all of our oil, buddy.
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So, you know, there's some things that we can do here.
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So I really think he would have been able to really come up with something
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and almost, you know, establish a stalemate.
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And I think that would have been probably his aim there.
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That way Donald Trump can say essentially in his head, well played.
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And then that's how you earn the respect of somebody like Donald Trump.
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You know, this entire situation, this, what appears to be the early stages of a dangerous trade dispute,
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potentially a trade war with the United States, has got me thinking about Canada's position
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and what it means to be Canada first, a Canadian nationalist, and the history of this, right?
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Because we've gone through periods of time where the relationship between the United States and Canada has not been good.
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I've done some reading recently about Diefenbaker and Kennedy.
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Famously, they were very cold with each other, very cold with each other.
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And Diefenbaker took serious exception to a memo that he received,
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which basically outlined America's plans to push around Canada, to dictate to Canada what can be done.
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I want to ask you this, Tonya.
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We look at the situation regarding trade.
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Donald Trump says that we're ripping the United States off by $100 billion a year.
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The reality is that comes from the United States buying our oil.
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And that also doesn't take into account the trade relationship with the United States.
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The U.S., Americans can purchase Canadian companies.
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Americans can also demand that we supply them with goods at the same rate if we enter a shortage.
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It doesn't really seem to me that the trade relationship is out of balance on the United States side.
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It seems that we're the ones with the short end of the stick
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because we obviously wouldn't be able to survive a 25% tariff.
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Yeah, I don't think the term ripping off is the correct term in this situation.
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I think this is more of a symbiotic relationship where both countries are benefiting.
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The United States is benefiting from the goods that we are sending down there.
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And obviously, Canada is benefiting from the money that we are able to earn by selling those goods.
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Yeah, I think we've had a very positive trade relationship with the United States up until this point.
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They're our largest trading partner.
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But if they're going to threaten tariffs, maybe we do need to look elsewhere for more positive trade relationships.
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Well, the other thing that I would jump in there with is just because you go to buy groceries
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or you even go to that small business down the street and you purchase something from them,
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you exit that encounter with less money.
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That doesn't mean they're ripping you off.
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Right.
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So just because the U.S. is buying our oil and, you know, to the tune of, you know, $100 billion in the hole,
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they are then turning around and making a net gain on that purchase because they're turning that into other products.
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So it's a very, I think, small, focused view of that individual transaction.
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But this is what Trump does in order to try to gain leverage.
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Right.
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So but we also have to look at the different options that perhaps under a peer poly of government that we would then gain,
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which is, you know, Western pipelines out to B.C.
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And, you know, we have a lot more options.
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You know, maybe he's going to pick up the phone and contact Japan and Germany and ask them,
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hey, do you still need natural gas?
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Because contrary to what my predecessor said, there is actually a business case.
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Right.
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I mean, I sure hope he does.
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I think the majority of Canadians do.
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It was funny that the the the cleanup act, the cleanup act by the government and the legacy media
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involved Dominic LeBlanc admitting, well, maybe he was just making it up.
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But he said that Trump was teasing the Canadian delegation.
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I don't know.
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As a Canadian, I don't really like the idea of of any world leader teasing and, you know,
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kind of making jokes directed at our prime minister, regardless of who it is in our delegation.
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That's what Dominic LeBlanc said.
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Take a listen to this.
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This desperate cleanup act.
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Not at all.
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Not at all.
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That was not the context at all.
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In a three hour in a three hour social evening at the president's residence in Florida on
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a long weekend of American Thanksgiving, the conversation was going to be lighthearted.
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The president was telling jokes.
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The president was teasing us.
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It was, of course, on that issue in no way a serious comment.
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We had a discussion on trade issues, on border security that was very productive.
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But the fact that there's a warm, cordial relationship between the two leaders and the
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president is able to joke like that, for us, was a positive thing.
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What exactly did he say?
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What exactly did he say?
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We don't have a transcript.
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If you look carefully at the picture, nobody had pads or were taking notes.
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It was a social evening.
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It wasn't a meeting in a boardroom with 10 bureaucrats keeping notes.
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It was a social evening.
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And there were moments where it was entertaining and funny.
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And there were moments where we were able to do, we think, some good work for Canada.
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All right.
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Well, the biggest thing that has happened really this week has been the continuation of Donald
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Trump's trolling of Canada.
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He saw the meltdown that has been taking place over the news that he was joking about
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annexing Canada.
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He doubled down on Truth Social out of nowhere, posting an AI-generated picture of him standing
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on top of a mountain with the Canadian flag and the caption, Oh, Canada.
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Ryan, when you saw this, what did you think?
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Oh, I thought it was real.
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No, I didn't.
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He actually scaled a mountain.
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It's unbelievable.
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In a suit.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know.
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In a suit, no less.
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I thought he took a helicopter off.
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Let's be realistic here.
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But I just, I thought it was funny.
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And I think it's interesting how short of a memory people have of Donald Trump.
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Like he, this is not the first time he has done something like this.
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This was literally just, he knows that all of Canada all of a sudden is paying attention
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to him.
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And he just posted that as, you know, just a kind of like, I would say a mischievous smile
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to the Canadian media and to the Canadian public.
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Yeah, it was to rub salt in the wound is what it was.
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Yeah.
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And to people that actually know what it was, it's hilarious.
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Like, you know, am I a fan of Donald Trump himself?
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Not particularly, but at the same time, he's not a stupid man.
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And I thought it was absolutely hilarious.
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Absolutely.
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You know, and believe it or not, we've actually obtained exclusive footage, TrueNorth exclusive.
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This is very exciting.
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We've obtained this footage of the moment that Donald Trump saw that picture and decided
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to troll Justin Trudeau.
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Take a look at this.
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I gotcha.
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Well, if you believe that that was real, I'm afraid to say you've got some media literacy
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training that is definitely required, but in all seriousness, property in Lethbridge,
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Alberta, I'd like to tell you.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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The funniest part you can, but you can just imagine that actually taking place with Justin
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Trudeau and his staff, someone made that picture and was like, sir, look at this.
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This is going to, this is going to make the Canadian media go insane.
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How funny would it be to post this?
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And he's like, yeah, get it up right away.
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I mean, it's just, that's the way he acts, right?
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It is funny.
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And I think we have to, we have to remember that Donald Trump is, is a troll artist and
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this is actually part of his diplomacy.
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Yeah.
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I think we need to remember that all of our politicians are human and maybe some of them have a sense
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of humor.
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Maybe some of them don't.
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Well, and I think this is why he and Elon Musk get along so well, because Elon Musk is
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also a, a master troller as well.
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And, uh, but this is the interesting thing.
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Even, even the initial post by the terrorist, it's not like, uh, Donald Trump picked up the
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phone and called, uh, called Justin Trudeau.
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It's not like he had a official letter sent to the Canadian government.
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And his, his threat from his terrorist was literally a post on true social.
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So even that, who knows if it was a troll or not, but his trolling actually got things
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done.
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So you, you, you, you can't fault him with that, but people have to understand what is
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real and what is not.
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Well, exactly.
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Exactly.
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And it reminds me of when he was, he did this near the end of his, uh, end of his first
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presidency when he started to float around the idea of buying Greenland.
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And, uh, he actually looked, it looked as though he was actually serious about it.
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He may in fact try to do it again in the next four years.
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Four years, he posted a picture of some tiny Greenland village with a giant gold Trump tower.
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You can see it here on the screen.
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I promise not to do this to Greenland.
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I mean, that is just his thing.
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It reminds, you know, he, he called Kim Jong-un at the United nations, little rocket man.
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And look what happened.
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He ended up, he ended up getting a summit with Kim Jong-un and walking across the DMZ.
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So that's just his thing, right?
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I mean, Canadians have to, uh, have to be able to laugh at the trolling, you know, none
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of us are responsible for Canadian diplomacy, so we can just sit back and laugh about it
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and just, I guess, pray that in fact, he doesn't annex us.
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Um, but we got to move along because we've got so much, so many clips here to get to this.
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I found to be very interesting.
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This is the new line guys that the liberals are rolling out the new attack on Pierre
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Polyev coming from Mark Miller, the immigration minister, of course, responsible for the immigration
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disaster.
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Take a look at what Mark Miller is now saying to Pierre Polyev in the House of Commons.
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Mr. Speaker, it comes down to this.
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Do you trust the guy who renegotiated NAFTA with Mr. Trump?
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Do you trust, do you trust the guy who secured the border during pandemic of the century?
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Do you trust the guy who went down on his, on President Trump's playing field to fight
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for Canadians to secure the border against the guy who spent 20 years making up interesting
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rhymes, spent 20 years securing one and one only thing, his own paycheck and a bloated
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pension?
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Do you trust the guy who renegotiated NAFTA?
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Or do you trust the guy who spends his time making up interesting rhymes and spending 20
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years securing his pension?
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If you've seen this clip, Ryan, what do you, what do you make of this new attack line against
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Pierre Polyev for being soft on immigration?
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And I guess, I guess, a rhyme artist?
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Well, here's the thing.
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Um, the liberals literally have basically nothing left to try and attack Pierre Polyev and the
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conservatives with.
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They've been almost spotless.
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They've made a few mistakes, um, and, and some of them were a bit larger, but the liberals
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didn't capitalize at all on it.
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So, um, this is essentially a clinic, uh, for anyone studying politics of how not to actually
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handle your political opponent.
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Um, and that's by the liberals and that's by Mark Miller.
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And I think he is just getting so frustrated because literally everybody is now going on the
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attack against Mark Miller and he feels like he, he tries to clap back.
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Now, the interesting thing is, is Pierre gets some, some criticism from a lot of people that
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haven't paid attention to literally everything that he says.
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And how can you blame people?
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They, they can't, but, um, Pierre has come out and stated that he will cap immigration to
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housing starts and, and the capacity of the healthcare system, uh, as well.
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So, um, I, uh, I don't know what Mark Miller is, is trying to talk about here.
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Now, Pierre does have to be careful to avoid just falling into a contrarian, uh, type of,
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uh, uh, a role here.
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Like it's okay to agree with the liberals if they're correct on something.
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So I would, I would, I would advise Pierre, don't just oppose everything the liberals are
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doing just for the sake of being an opposition.
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Right. And Tanya, what do you make of the, of the new liberal attack? It seems to be, uh,
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it seems to be desperation.
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Yeah, I think it's completely baseless. Um, if Pierre Polyev was only after a pension,
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well, he would have left after he got his six years. I mean, he's still here 20 years later.
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I think he cares very much about this country and he wants to see it restored to its former glory.
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Um, I also think that there is such a thing as being right too early. And that's why the
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conservatives haven't said anything about immigration up until very recently. If, uh,
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you think about even a year ago, what was Canadians attitude in general towards immigration? Everybody
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was very pro immigration. Um, everybody was very pro open border. I don't want to say everybody,
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but many Canadians. And now it's just starting to come around that, you know, maybe we don't have
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the capacity to, to support this many people all at once. And I think the conservatives are trying
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to navigate that carefully so that the liberals can't use that against them.
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Right. And I think, I think there are, there are, you know, as we've pointed out,
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there are many things that you can criticize Pierre Polyev for. There is, as, as has been
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discussed many times on my show and on others, um, this, this concern that members of the conservative
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party are worried about being labeled are worried about being attacked by the legacy media and,
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uh, and are because of that, a little bit soft on some of the core conservative principles.
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However, I do find, I do find it funny that the, that the liberals are now attacking Polyev
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for being anti deportations, uh, you know, a pandering and, uh, and making up the rhymes.
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I think the rhymes, the rhymes and the slogans get a little tired for me, I have to say,
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but it is, uh, it is clearly desperation from them. Desperation times. And what do they say?
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Desperation calls for a desperate times call for desperate measures. And it looks as though
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Miller is certainly, uh, has reached that point. I wanted to move on. We talked about the Mexican
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president, uh, Claudia Scheinbaum in the last episode, because of her stance on the U S fentanyl
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crisis. She's now changed her focus to go after Canada. And she said that, uh, the Canadians should
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not be talking about the fentanyl issues that Mexico needs to be respected. Uh, and I believe
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her exact words are as follows. Uh, Canada has a problem with fentanyl consumption among its citizens
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due to a drug access policy that has implemented in previous years. It is different from the problem
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that occurs in Mexico where consumption is minimal. Uh, I find this interesting, Tonya, I'll go to you.
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Uh, it seems as though the Mexican president has forgot the part of the, uh, of fentanyl creation
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part of this equation. Uh, clearly they don't have a problem because the Mexicans don't sell the
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fentanyl to their own people. Yeah. It sounds like she's saying, well,
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maybe we make it, but we don't use it. So, you know, that makes it okay.
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Well, and they've obviously seen the movie Scarface where it's a, where the, the main lesson
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that, uh, Tony Montana or Tony Montana, um, didn't take to heart was you never use your own product.
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That's basically what they do. So, um, so yeah, of course they don't have a, uh, a narcotic
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problem in Mexico because they're, they only make it, they don't use it. Well, and the Mexican
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president says that Canada has a, uh, a access, uh, change in access policy. Well, you guys haven't
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changed your export policy in a long, long time. Right. And I, I, I, I've been like almost,
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almost to the point of being offended by what the Mexican president has been saying over the past
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couple of days. I just find it outrageous, but then I've done, I've done a little bit of digging
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and I learned that actually none of this should be surprising. The Mexican leadership have,
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uh, have a history of saying outrageous things about the fentanyl crisis to, uh, divert any,
00:28:13.140
any bad attention on their own people. Famously, the previous Mexican president said of the U S
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fentanyl crisis, the reason why the Americans are dying from fentanyl is because of a lack of hugs,
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a lack of hugs. Uh, this was written in the AP in 2023. So that's the position of the Mexicans on
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fentanyl crisis. They're not, the Americans aren't being hugged enough guys. So they need
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one giant group hug in America and then they'll be fine. Very serious people down there clearly.
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Um, and, uh, just, I mean, maybe I shouldn't be so offended there. That's just their, that's just
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the way they roll. I now want to move on another classic example guys of, of the CBC and their position
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on Pierre Polyev and, and immigration. We've known this for a while, but when you see it,
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you just got to highlight it. You got to call it out. This came from David Cochran last night.
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Justin Trudeau held a leaders meeting to inform Polyev, Jagmeet Singh, uh, Yves-Francois Blanchet,
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even Elizabeth May got herself into that meeting shockingly, uh, to discuss what they can't,
00:29:15.220
what the Canadian approach is going to be to this tariff threat. Apparently, Justin Trudeau said to all
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the leaders, please don't talk about the immigration failure that I have caused. Don't,
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don't bring attention to the fact that we have an open border. It would be great if you could just,
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you know, not talk about that. While Pierre Polyev went ahead, did his job, opposed the government
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and talked about it immediately after the meeting. Take a look at how David Cochran responded to this.
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Remember, he's supposed to be a journalist. So Kate on that, like all the national leaders get
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together in the cabinet room. That's where they met apparently. And, and they were all asked to not say
00:29:49.700
things like the border is broken and in about 45 seconds, Pierre Polyev says the border is broken
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and then he leads off question period about the broken border. Right. This is exactly the sort of
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thing they're all being asked not to do because it, it, it helps the U.S. news cycle and helps the
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president-elect's argument. Uh, he was making comments about the border well before that meeting.
00:30:08.740
Sure. Um, he had also done an entire media availability on Sunday where he talked about what he would do to
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fix the border. So he's not just coming out and saying the border is a problem and it needs to be fixed.
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He's also outlining a path for how it could be fixed in actions that the government could take.
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So it's not just identification of a problem. There's also a solutions roadmap that he's identified.
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Are you, are you guys surprised about the way the CBC is handling this?
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I'll tell you, we're not proper journalists and I don't think even we would behave in that manner.
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Yeah. Um, I, I must've left my surprise face downstairs. So sorry. I, I don't have that
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with me right now. So, um, you'll have to settle with my not surprised face. Um, no, there, the,
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the CBC has $1.3 billion, uh, reasons a year, um, to act this way. And, uh, and as we know,
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there's a history between David Cochran and Justin Trudeau. They're frankly buddies.
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Oh yeah. You got to take, take a look at this clip. We've showed it on true north before,
00:31:06.580
but remember back in 2019, David Cochran and the CBC were being so good to Justin Trudeau,
00:31:13.140
so good to the liberals, giving them some great headlines that Justin Trudeau decided to gift
00:31:18.980
David Cochran at a press conference, a poutine. He famously said these words,
00:31:23.060
take a look at this clip here. So David Cochran, the new host of power and politics,
00:31:39.300
attempting to hold the liberal government to account. It appears as though, uh, he knows,
00:31:43.300
he knows who buys him the poutine. Hey. Yeah. And evidently he got some extra gravy with that
00:31:49.220
because that gravy has lasted about five years, uh, up to now. So, um, and, uh, maybe he keeps
00:31:57.140
getting, you know, a, a, a new poutine delivered by, by Uber eats every week. I don't know, but, um,
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something's happening. He's getting some sort of delivery from Justin Trudeau because he,
00:32:08.260
he keeps giving this over the top, I would say completely biased view just towards, uh, Justin
00:32:17.620
Trudeau and the liberals. And Tanya, like, let's get into this here. Let's just think about the
00:32:22.500
substance of what David Cochran is expecting of Pierre Polyev to not criticize Justin Trudeau's
00:32:29.700
government for arguably maybe their biggest failure in government, the most important and pressing
00:32:36.820
issue of the day. That is actually going to determine whether or not the Canadian economy
00:32:40.980
survives that can determine whether or not tens of thousands of Canadians have a job in the next
00:32:46.420
three months. David Cochran wants Trudeau, wants Pierre Polyev to be completely silent on that
00:32:52.260
and just go along with Justin Trudeau. I mean, that is an absurd ask at any time, but with this,
00:32:57.380
with these conditions, it's even crazier, even for the CBC. Yeah. In our Westminster parliamentary
00:33:03.380
system, the job of the official opposition is to hold the government to account. And if you have the
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prime minister saying to the leaders of the opposition parties, please don't talk publicly about this.
00:33:14.820
Well then, how are those leaders supposed to hold the government to account? How is the media
00:33:19.620
supposed to find out about this and then hold the government to account? And how is the public
00:33:24.900
supposed to find out about this? So we as citizens can hold our elected officials to account.
00:33:29.780
Well, and this just goes back to the fact that Justin Trudeau doesn't take seriously who's the people
00:33:34.500
that actually pay his salary. You know, these are things that they should be discussed,
00:33:40.020
they should be available to the public. This isn't a matter of national security,
00:33:44.260
it's a matter of national embarrassment, but it's not a matter of national security and national
00:33:49.700
embarrassment. That is not a reason to be withholding, you know, this type of criticism
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from the government. If anything, you know, the government needs more criticism, especially from
00:34:01.220
our mainstream media. Yet, all the politicians do is demonize all of the people that actually do
00:34:06.900
criticize them. That's why, you know, we're called, you know, these crazy, you know,
00:34:11.540
late night YouTubers that Justin Trudeau refers to in the House of Commons.
00:34:16.340
Right. I mean, honestly, we could have an entire show, probably an hour long show,
00:34:21.140
just going over what the CBC said the previous day. It seems to be getting worse. And I think,
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I think it's just reinforcing the need for the CBC to face some significant restructuring,
00:34:32.740
as it appears as very likely going to happen. Well, that is all the time we have for on the
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episode today. I'm afraid I've done it. Once again, you got to bear with me. We're still new
00:34:42.020
to this show. I forgot to read out to you the poll question for this episode, which you can find in
00:34:46.900
the pinned comment of this video. We want to hear you. We want to hear your comments. We also want
00:34:51.380
you to engage in the poll. The poll question for this episode is, do you think Trump will follow
00:34:56.740
through with his tariff threat or is he bluffing? Is he bluffing to Justin Trudeau? Let us know in
00:35:03.380
the pinned comment, your thoughts on that poll question. We will read out the results
00:35:07.300
on the next episode. But until then, thank you very much for tuning in. We'll see you next week.
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