Juno News - December 05, 2024


Trump trolls Canadaļ¼š Tariffs, AI Memes, and Trudeauā€™s new positionļ¼Ÿ


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Donald Trump is back in the White House and Justin Trudeau is the new Prime Minister of Canada. What does that mean for the country and what does it mean for our economy? We also discuss the results of a recent poll that showed 80% of Canadians support Trump's 25% tariff threat.

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00:00:00.000 Welcome back to the third episode of Northern Dispatch.
00:00:12.520 My name is Harrison Faulkner and I'm joined as always by our co-hosts on the program,
00:00:17.320 Ryan and Tonya from Northern Perspective.
00:00:20.400 Well, it's been an incredible week once again, Donald Trump is still dominating the news.
00:00:25.380 He is living rent free in the mainstream media journalists heads and I imagine guys, he'll
00:00:32.100 end up, you'll end up staying there for the next four years.
00:00:34.720 I think that's pretty much a safe bet at this point.
00:00:37.560 What have you guys made of the news this week?
00:00:40.000 Well, you said it, I think media and content creators are thrilled that Donald Trump is
00:00:48.580 going to be back in the White House.
00:00:52.320 I think we learned from the first time around, there's not going to be a day that goes by
00:00:56.620 without something to talk about regarding Donald Trump.
00:01:03.000 With the magical dinner that happened over the weekend with Justin Trudeau, where he initially
00:01:08.740 came back and said, oh, it was a great conversation.
00:01:11.820 Everything went well and then we learned what really happened.
00:01:15.200 I think it's going to be an interesting four years for Canada, starting with the first day
00:01:19.760 he's in office.
00:01:20.760 Yeah, I think that's right.
00:01:23.060 Yeah.
00:01:24.060 I think, um, uh, the liberals tried to play it off as, oh, it was so much fun.
00:01:28.380 It, you know, Trump was joking with us.
00:01:30.520 It was great.
00:01:31.820 I don't really think he was joking with them.
00:01:33.940 I think he was demeaning them.
00:01:35.660 Um, but you wouldn't know that if you talk to the Canadian mainstream media.
00:01:40.060 Yeah.
00:01:41.060 They don't seem to understand what's a joke and what isn't.
00:01:44.060 Right.
00:01:45.060 Exactly.
00:01:46.060 And as, as should have been expected with all of the evidence we have, this was going
00:01:50.300 to be a bullying session.
00:01:51.680 Trump was going to have his way with Justin Trudeau.
00:01:54.980 Um, and when we found, when we were, when we were being told that it was a great success
00:01:59.300 for the Canadians, I think most Canadians with some critical thinking skills could see that
00:02:04.380 that was just good spin.
00:02:05.480 Before we get into the show, we've got a lot of clips.
00:02:07.540 We're going to go through a lot of what's been happening because the news is coming thick
00:02:10.080 and fast here.
00:02:11.220 We have to get to the results of our last episode, a poll.
00:02:14.840 And the question we had last episode was, do you support Donald Trump's 25% tariff threat?
00:02:21.880 And it wasn't even close, uh, 80% of respondents said they do support Donald Trump's 25% tariff
00:02:29.220 threat.
00:02:30.220 Only 20% said no.
00:02:32.220 Uh, I mean, what did you guys make of that result?
00:02:34.380 I, I, I, I'm not surprised to hear it, but I think we should, uh, we should remember that
00:02:39.380 we are supposed to be supporting our country here.
00:02:42.400 25% to 25% tariff would be disastrous for us.
00:02:45.760 Yeah, I think that's the truth is that it will be disastrous for us, but I think many Canadians 1.00
00:02:51.060 are seeing that this is the thing that finally kicked Justin Trudeau in the butt to start examining
00:02:57.540 our situation at the borders and to start examining our immigration policies.
00:03:02.720 And maybe that's not so bad.
00:03:05.480 Well, and I also think that Canadians across the country that have been screaming about
00:03:12.280 the fentanyl issues, the drug issues, the border issues, the immigration issues.
00:03:17.540 Um, this was almost a call it a third party validation of everything that they've been screaming
00:03:23.880 about for the last few years.
00:03:26.140 And, um, uh, the fact that Trudeau has essentially, you know, responded to the snapping of the fingers
00:03:32.500 of, of his master, the president, the future president of the United States, a, it makes
00:03:36.760 him look weak, but at the same time, it's, it's getting him in line.
00:03:40.840 And I think, I think what Canadians are saying when they support the threat, they support 0.75
00:03:45.900 the threat.
00:03:46.640 They don't support the implementation because the threat is actually getting things done
00:03:50.940 up here.
00:03:51.960 Right.
00:03:52.160 Exactly.
00:03:52.680 And I think, I think Canadians are realizing that what they think and what they want, how
00:03:58.200 they respond to, to polling isn't going to influence the political, uh, situation in
00:04:03.360 this country at all.
00:04:04.200 Because when it comes to immigration, the polling has been out for years now that the majority of
00:04:08.140 Canadians wanted the, wanted the immigration controlled and the government just wasn't 0.88
00:04:12.540 responding, wasn't listening.
00:04:13.740 And all it took was a Donald Trump getting elected and a threatening to tariff the country
00:04:18.300 to death. 0.75
00:04:18.860 And that's basically what this would do.
00:04:20.980 Let's get into the comments from last episode as well.
00:04:24.440 We're, as we, as we said before, we're going to read out some of the comments that get the
00:04:28.060 most likes, and then we'll get to the next poll question.
00:04:31.040 The first comment we have comes from new life on our last episode.
00:04:35.600 And this user writes, I applaud Trump and his decision.
00:04:38.140 It says to force Canada to shut the border.
00:04:40.820 If our own government won't do it, then a partner in the U S has every right to impose
00:04:44.600 sanctions.
00:04:45.920 Borders are important and Canada is full.
00:04:48.540 Going back to what we all discussed.
00:04:49.540 I mean, that's clearly what's going on here.
00:04:51.620 The U S president has put his foot down and dictated, uh, what, what is going to happen
00:04:55.760 for our country.
00:04:56.760 And I think Canadians would like the results if we do get control of our border.
00:05:01.220 And next one is from Richard first rate, uh, zero four night.
00:05:04.420 I believe Trump is putting one more finishing nail in Trudy's coffin.
00:05:07.880 And Trump absolutely knows the mess north of the border.
00:05:10.880 He is in Canada's conservatives corner.
00:05:12.880 Yeah.
00:05:13.880 I think this is another, uh, uh, another indication of the fact that Trump's going to do what Trump's
00:05:20.700 going to do, and I actually don't know if he really cares what happens, uh, up here.
00:05:26.460 He may think that, uh, pure poly of might be a little easier to deal with.
00:05:29.760 He may not.
00:05:30.580 But one thing that he does know is that, um, Trudeau essentially stabbed him in the back
00:05:36.520 in, in one of the press conferences.
00:05:37.900 And I don't think Trump has had any respect for Trudeau since then.
00:05:41.560 And he, he knows that, uh, he, he has Trudeau's number.
00:05:46.120 So he will take any and every opportunity to publicly humiliate Justin Trudeau and show
00:05:51.580 him as the fraud leader that he is.
00:05:54.100 And our final comment comes from Tricia Sullivan, seven, nine, seven, eight.
00:05:58.620 He meaning Trump has every right to want a safe border.
00:06:02.040 As do we, maybe this will push for Canada to clean up too. 0.97
00:06:05.460 That's what the tariffs are meant to do, make both countries safer, then we will be able
00:06:09.840 to negotiate in a friendly manner.
00:06:11.940 And I think that's a good point, um, that these tariffs, or at least the threat of these
00:06:16.020 tariffs are meant to get Canada in gear, get us, start protecting our own border, and then
00:06:22.620 we can negotiate with the Americans fairly and freely.
00:06:25.500 Well, and I think the other thing that this does for Trump is he's going to, he's going
00:06:29.260 to come into office already bragging that look, look, look at what I've already done.
00:06:33.060 And I haven't even been in office yet.
00:06:34.900 So, um, I think he's going to take that as an early win in, in his narrative of safeguarding
00:06:40.800 the Northern border.
00:06:41.840 Oh, absolutely.
00:06:42.780 I don't want to get too into the weeds of, of us, uh, diplomatic politics, but I think
00:06:47.080 you're right about that.
00:06:48.220 Donald Trump is making threats, not only to Canada and Mexico regarding tariffs, but he's
00:06:53.700 also making threats in the Middle East and forcing people to try to fall in line.
00:06:57.480 And he could be able to claim victory on day one over a number of, of serious, uh, foreign 0.99
00:07:02.820 issues like Gaza and Israel.
00:07:04.760 I think that he will likely end up coming, coming through with that similar to what Reagan
00:07:08.920 was able to accomplish on his first day with the Iran hostage deal.
00:07:12.380 There might be something there with Gaza, but that's a bit, you know, we're, we're going, 1.00
00:07:15.860 we're going to a little deep into American politics there.
00:07:17.800 Let's bring it back to the Canadian angle and let's start with what has set the Canadian
00:07:22.760 media alight this week.
00:07:24.640 And that all has to do, of course, with the dinner that Trudeau had with Donald Trump on
00:07:29.960 Friday night.
00:07:31.380 Immediately after that, we started to hear reports from Canadian legacy media that it
00:07:35.260 was a success for Canada, that Justin Trudeau and Katie Telford and Dominic LeBlanc showed
00:07:40.200 up as team Canada and were successful at getting Trump to recognize the differences between Mexico
00:07:46.080 and Canada when it comes to immigration and drugs.
00:07:48.520 That's a pretty low bar.
00:07:49.680 I think, uh, I think all of us on this call on this show could be successful at doing
00:07:53.540 that because really there is no comparison when it comes to both countries.
00:07:57.560 However, it wasn't long until the United States and the American media came in with the other
00:08:03.580 side of the story, probably the truth about what happened at that dinner.
00:08:07.400 And this is what Fox news host Peter Doocy said on, on Monday night about what really happened
00:08:14.620 at that dinner.
00:08:16.380 Take a listen.
00:08:17.620 And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump-Trudeau dinner from two people
00:08:22.440 who were at the table.
00:08:23.500 We are told that when Trudeau told President-elect Trump that new tariffs would kill the Canadian
00:08:29.960 economy, Trump joked to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the U.S. 0.78
00:08:35.080 to the tune of $100 billion a year, then maybe Canada should become the 51st state and Trudeau
00:08:42.300 could become its governor.
00:08:44.060 So there we go.
00:08:45.200 Ryan, apparently Donald Trump actually said that if Canada can't survive a 25% tariff when
00:08:52.380 we are ripping them off to the tune of $100 billion, maybe we should just become the 51st
00:08:58.900 state and Trudeau can become the governor of the country.
00:09:02.760 Ouch.
00:09:03.040 Yeah, and I guess, you know, what they're saying, what happened after that was there
00:09:09.800 was some nervous laughter from Justin Trudeau and Dominic LeBlanc.
00:09:15.800 And I really think about how the Canadian media is now trying to spin this because first it
00:09:22.660 was, oh, you know, we had a great conversation, yada, yada, yada, everything's going to be fine.
00:09:26.320 And then this story drops and now they're all in damage control.
00:09:30.500 And now the Canadian media is saying, oh, well, it's actually a good thing that they
00:09:35.020 were making fun of Canada because that actually shows that there's a camaraderie between them.
00:09:40.080 Like, are you kidding?
00:09:41.700 Seriously, are you kidding?
00:09:43.780 Have you seen what Donald Trump has said about Justin Trudeau after Trudeau tried to come
00:09:49.320 out as the big tough guy after their one meeting?
00:09:51.340 So I don't think that that is, you know, going to fly with the Canadian public.
00:09:57.820 And I think about if Pierre Polyev was in that situation, I think you probably would
00:10:03.520 have heard a shot back from him because you see this all the time from Pierre Polyev
00:10:08.080 in question period in debates.
00:10:09.920 He's very good at thinking on his feet.
00:10:11.400 And I think Trump would have respected a shot back from Pierre Polyev and probably would
00:10:16.960 have given a handshake after that.
00:10:18.380 But this is Justin Trudeau, and he just folded like a cheap suit.
00:10:22.460 Yeah, the Canadian media is trying to pass this off as, oh, it was just a joke.
00:10:26.060 It was just a joke.
00:10:27.160 Maybe it was a joke, but I think it was one of those jokes that has some truth to it and 0.98
00:10:30.800 is meant to sting.
00:10:32.600 I mean, we all know the kind that we're talking about here.
00:10:35.940 And I don't think it was just lighthearted fun.
00:10:38.920 I think it was meant to send a message.
00:10:41.560 Oh, I think absolutely.
00:10:42.720 I'm sure it was meant to send a message.
00:10:44.400 And, you know, we all know Donald Trump to be a joker, to use humor as a political weapon
00:10:51.060 and a very effective weapon at that.
00:10:52.640 It has been for him in the past.
00:10:55.840 But, you know, I want to ask you this, Ryan.
00:10:57.900 What do you think Pierre Polyev would have said?
00:11:00.180 I mean, it's a tough position to imagine being in the president joking about annexing the country
00:11:04.740 and all that face to face with that guy.
00:11:07.280 What do you think you could even say back to that?
00:11:09.480 I don't even know how you would respond to something like that.
00:11:13.060 Well, it'd be kind of difficult because you would have to take into the context where is Canada at that point
00:11:22.060 with Pierre Polyev?
00:11:23.000 How long has he been in power?
00:11:24.280 What has he been able to do?
00:11:26.460 If we kind of take the same time period, let's say he's been in office for three or four years at that point,
00:11:32.700 he probably would have done a lot.
00:11:34.480 But he probably would have, you know, shot back something about Trump's campaign
00:11:41.080 or he probably would have made a lighthearted comment about Kamala Harris
00:11:48.400 or even Trump's legal situation as a, you know, kind of a bar back,
00:11:54.140 just sending a message of his own saying, yeah, you know, you can be clever, but so can I.
00:12:00.760 And, you know, we're a small country as Canada, but small doesn't necessarily mean we're a country to be trifled with
00:12:09.500 because you get all of our oil, buddy.
00:12:11.480 So, you know, there's some things that we can do here.
00:12:14.440 So I really think he would have been able to really come up with something
00:12:19.020 and almost, you know, establish a stalemate.
00:12:23.300 And I think that would have been probably his aim there.
00:12:25.920 That way Donald Trump can say essentially in his head, well played.
00:12:29.260 And then that's how you earn the respect of somebody like Donald Trump.
00:12:33.220 You know, this entire situation, this, what appears to be the early stages of a dangerous trade dispute,
00:12:42.320 potentially a trade war with the United States, has got me thinking about Canada's position
00:12:48.080 and what it means to be Canada first, a Canadian nationalist, and the history of this, right?
00:12:54.100 Because we've gone through periods of time where the relationship between the United States and Canada has not been good.
00:12:59.540 I've done some reading recently about Diefenbaker and Kennedy.
00:13:03.460 Famously, they were very cold with each other, very cold with each other.
00:13:07.160 And Diefenbaker took serious exception to a memo that he received,
00:13:12.900 which basically outlined America's plans to push around Canada, to dictate to Canada what can be done.
00:13:20.220 I want to ask you this, Tonya.
00:13:22.200 We look at the situation regarding trade.
00:13:24.180 Donald Trump says that we're ripping the United States off by $100 billion a year.
00:13:28.680 The reality is that comes from the United States buying our oil.
00:13:33.740 And that also doesn't take into account the trade relationship with the United States.
00:13:37.680 The U.S., Americans can purchase Canadian companies.
00:13:41.220 Americans can also demand that we supply them with goods at the same rate if we enter a shortage.
00:13:47.480 It doesn't really seem to me that the trade relationship is out of balance on the United States side.
00:13:53.540 It seems that we're the ones with the short end of the stick
00:13:56.320 because we obviously wouldn't be able to survive a 25% tariff.
00:14:01.040 Yeah, I don't think the term ripping off is the correct term in this situation.
00:14:05.960 I think this is more of a symbiotic relationship where both countries are benefiting.
00:14:09.900 The United States is benefiting from the goods that we are sending down there.
00:14:13.700 And obviously, Canada is benefiting from the money that we are able to earn by selling those goods.
00:14:20.700 Yeah, I think we've had a very positive trade relationship with the United States up until this point.
00:14:25.640 They're our largest trading partner.
00:14:28.340 But if they're going to threaten tariffs, maybe we do need to look elsewhere for more positive trade relationships.
00:14:34.380 Well, the other thing that I would jump in there with is just because you go to buy groceries
00:14:39.860 or you even go to that small business down the street and you purchase something from them,
00:14:44.980 you exit that encounter with less money.
00:14:47.260 That doesn't mean they're ripping you off.
00:14:49.240 Right.
00:14:49.280 So just because the U.S. is buying our oil and, you know, to the tune of, you know, $100 billion in the hole,
00:14:56.340 they are then turning around and making a net gain on that purchase because they're turning that into other products.
00:15:02.340 So it's a very, I think, small, focused view of that individual transaction.
00:15:09.600 But this is what Trump does in order to try to gain leverage.
00:15:13.000 Right.
00:15:13.500 So but we also have to look at the different options that perhaps under a peer poly of government that we would then gain,
00:15:22.880 which is, you know, Western pipelines out to B.C.
00:15:25.260 And, you know, we have a lot more options.
00:15:28.100 You know, maybe he's going to pick up the phone and contact Japan and Germany and ask them,
00:15:31.680 hey, do you still need natural gas?
00:15:33.660 Because contrary to what my predecessor said, there is actually a business case.
00:15:38.300 Right.
00:15:38.760 I mean, I sure hope he does.
00:15:39.820 I think the majority of Canadians do.
00:15:41.260 It was funny that the the the cleanup act, the cleanup act by the government and the legacy media
00:15:46.720 involved Dominic LeBlanc admitting, well, maybe he was just making it up.
00:15:51.100 But he said that Trump was teasing the Canadian delegation.
00:15:55.320 I don't know.
00:15:55.820 As a Canadian, I don't really like the idea of of any world leader teasing and, you know,
00:16:02.340 kind of making jokes directed at our prime minister, regardless of who it is in our delegation.
00:16:07.180 That's what Dominic LeBlanc said.
00:16:08.480 Take a listen to this.
00:16:10.000 This desperate cleanup act.
00:16:14.000 Not at all.
00:16:14.900 Not at all.
00:16:15.460 That was not the context at all.
00:16:17.520 In a three hour in a three hour social evening at the president's residence in Florida on
00:16:25.680 a long weekend of American Thanksgiving, the conversation was going to be lighthearted.
00:16:31.740 The president was telling jokes.
00:16:34.760 The president was teasing us.
00:16:36.660 It was, of course, on that issue in no way a serious comment.
00:16:41.560 We had a discussion on trade issues, on border security that was very productive.
00:16:48.240 But the fact that there's a warm, cordial relationship between the two leaders and the
00:16:51.720 president is able to joke like that, for us, was a positive thing.
00:16:55.440 What exactly did he say?
00:16:57.320 What exactly did he say?
00:16:58.340 We don't have a transcript.
00:16:59.780 If you look carefully at the picture, nobody had pads or were taking notes.
00:17:03.400 It was a social evening.
00:17:04.600 It wasn't a meeting in a boardroom with 10 bureaucrats keeping notes.
00:17:09.800 It was a social evening.
00:17:11.760 And there were moments where it was entertaining and funny.
00:17:15.200 And there were moments where we were able to do, we think, some good work for Canada.
00:17:18.240 All right.
00:17:18.540 Well, the biggest thing that has happened really this week has been the continuation of Donald
00:17:24.360 Trump's trolling of Canada.
00:17:26.700 He saw the meltdown that has been taking place over the news that he was joking about
00:17:31.880 annexing Canada.
00:17:32.740 He doubled down on Truth Social out of nowhere, posting an AI-generated picture of him standing
00:17:39.140 on top of a mountain with the Canadian flag and the caption, Oh, Canada.
00:17:43.500 Ryan, when you saw this, what did you think?
00:17:45.800 Oh, I thought it was real.
00:17:46.900 No, I didn't.
00:17:49.940 He actually scaled a mountain.
00:17:51.600 It's unbelievable.
00:17:52.520 In a suit.
00:17:52.920 Yeah.
00:17:53.240 Well, you know.
00:17:53.620 In a suit, no less.
00:17:54.700 I thought he took a helicopter off.
00:17:56.880 Let's be realistic here.
00:17:58.580 But I just, I thought it was funny.
00:18:01.540 And I think it's interesting how short of a memory people have of Donald Trump.
00:18:06.740 Like he, this is not the first time he has done something like this.
00:18:09.900 This was literally just, he knows that all of Canada all of a sudden is paying attention
00:18:14.980 to him.
00:18:15.520 And he just posted that as, you know, just a kind of like, I would say a mischievous smile
00:18:23.300 to the Canadian media and to the Canadian public.
00:18:26.480 Yeah, it was to rub salt in the wound is what it was.
00:18:29.040 Yeah.
00:18:29.380 And to people that actually know what it was, it's hilarious.
00:18:32.300 Like, you know, am I a fan of Donald Trump himself?
00:18:36.500 Not particularly, but at the same time, he's not a stupid man.
00:18:41.680 And I thought it was absolutely hilarious.
00:18:44.220 Absolutely.
00:18:45.760 You know, and believe it or not, we've actually obtained exclusive footage, TrueNorth exclusive.
00:18:51.160 This is very exciting.
00:18:52.220 We've obtained this footage of the moment that Donald Trump saw that picture and decided
00:18:57.780 to troll Justin Trudeau.
00:18:58.840 Take a look at this.
00:19:00.220 I gotcha.
00:19:01.220 Well, if you believe that that was real, I'm afraid to say you've got some media literacy
00:19:16.640 training that is definitely required, but in all seriousness, property in Lethbridge,
00:19:21.460 Alberta, I'd like to tell you.
00:19:22.740 Exactly.
00:19:23.900 Exactly.
00:19:24.860 The funniest part you can, but you can just imagine that actually taking place with Justin
00:19:29.640 Trudeau and his staff, someone made that picture and was like, sir, look at this.
00:19:33.240 This is going to, this is going to make the Canadian media go insane.
00:19:36.280 How funny would it be to post this?
00:19:37.780 And he's like, yeah, get it up right away.
00:19:39.300 I mean, it's just, that's the way he acts, right?
00:19:41.420 It is funny.
00:19:42.400 And I think we have to, we have to remember that Donald Trump is, is a troll artist and
00:19:48.440 this is actually part of his diplomacy.
00:19:51.740 Yeah.
00:19:52.100 I think we need to remember that all of our politicians are human and maybe some of them have a sense
00:19:56.860 of humor.
00:19:57.320 Maybe some of them don't.
00:19:58.320 Well, and I think this is why he and Elon Musk get along so well, because Elon Musk is
00:20:04.200 also a, a master troller as well.
00:20:07.280 And, uh, but this is the interesting thing.
00:20:10.240 Even, even the initial post by the terrorist, it's not like, uh, Donald Trump picked up the
00:20:15.640 phone and called, uh, called Justin Trudeau.
00:20:18.260 It's not like he had a official letter sent to the Canadian government.
00:20:22.380 And his, his threat from his terrorist was literally a post on true social.
00:20:26.340 So even that, who knows if it was a troll or not, but his trolling actually got things
00:20:31.820 done.
00:20:32.240 So you, you, you, you can't fault him with that, but people have to understand what is
00:20:37.240 real and what is not.
00:20:38.120 Well, exactly.
00:20:39.120 Exactly.
00:20:40.120 And it reminds me of when he was, he did this near the end of his, uh, end of his first
00:20:44.920 presidency when he started to float around the idea of buying Greenland.
00:20:48.580 And, uh, he actually looked, it looked as though he was actually serious about it.
00:20:52.580 He may in fact try to do it again in the next four years.
00:20:54.580 Four years, he posted a picture of some tiny Greenland village with a giant gold Trump tower.
00:21:03.860 You can see it here on the screen.
00:21:05.000 I promise not to do this to Greenland.
00:21:06.660 I mean, that is just his thing.
00:21:08.860 It reminds, you know, he, he called Kim Jong-un at the United nations, little rocket man.
00:21:13.520 And look what happened.
00:21:14.520 He ended up, he ended up getting a summit with Kim Jong-un and walking across the DMZ.
00:21:19.720 So that's just his thing, right?
00:21:21.240 I mean, Canadians have to, uh, have to be able to laugh at the trolling, you know, none
00:21:25.660 of us are responsible for Canadian diplomacy, so we can just sit back and laugh about it
00:21:30.360 and just, I guess, pray that in fact, he doesn't annex us.
00:21:33.460 Um, but we got to move along because we've got so much, so many clips here to get to this.
00:21:38.060 I found to be very interesting.
00:21:39.760 This is the new line guys that the liberals are rolling out the new attack on Pierre
00:21:44.400 Polyev coming from Mark Miller, the immigration minister, of course, responsible for the immigration
00:21:49.820 disaster.
00:21:51.020 Take a look at what Mark Miller is now saying to Pierre Polyev in the House of Commons.
00:21:55.140 Mr. Speaker, it comes down to this.
00:21:57.300 Do you trust the guy who renegotiated NAFTA with Mr. Trump?
00:22:00.300 Do you trust, do you trust the guy who secured the border during pandemic of the century?
00:22:07.300 Do you trust the guy who went down on his, on President Trump's playing field to fight
00:22:11.660 for Canadians to secure the border against the guy who spent 20 years making up interesting
00:22:17.660 rhymes, spent 20 years securing one and one only thing, his own paycheck and a bloated
00:22:22.940 pension?
00:22:23.940 Do you trust the guy who renegotiated NAFTA?
00:22:28.060 Or do you trust the guy who spends his time making up interesting rhymes and spending 20
00:22:33.180 years securing his pension?
00:22:36.180 If you've seen this clip, Ryan, what do you, what do you make of this new attack line against
00:22:41.060 Pierre Polyev for being soft on immigration?
00:22:43.460 And I guess, I guess, a rhyme artist?
00:22:46.700 Well, here's the thing.
00:22:49.580 Um, the liberals literally have basically nothing left to try and attack Pierre Polyev and the
00:22:58.940 conservatives with.
00:22:59.740 They've been almost spotless.
00:23:02.100 They've made a few mistakes, um, and, and some of them were a bit larger, but the liberals
00:23:08.260 didn't capitalize at all on it.
00:23:10.180 So, um, this is essentially a clinic, uh, for anyone studying politics of how not to actually
00:23:18.900 handle your political opponent.
00:23:20.420 Um, and that's by the liberals and that's by Mark Miller.
00:23:23.860 And I think he is just getting so frustrated because literally everybody is now going on the
00:23:29.300 attack against Mark Miller and he feels like he, he tries to clap back.
00:23:33.300 Now, the interesting thing is, is Pierre gets some, some criticism from a lot of people that
00:23:39.060 haven't paid attention to literally everything that he says.
00:23:42.260 And how can you blame people?
00:23:43.540 They, they can't, but, um, Pierre has come out and stated that he will cap immigration to
00:23:50.980 housing starts and, and the capacity of the healthcare system, uh, as well.
00:23:56.500 So, um, I, uh, I don't know what Mark Miller is, is trying to talk about here.
00:24:03.140 Now, Pierre does have to be careful to avoid just falling into a contrarian, uh, type of, 0.76
00:24:09.860 uh, uh, a role here.
00:24:11.780 Like it's okay to agree with the liberals if they're correct on something.
00:24:16.100 So I would, I would, I would advise Pierre, don't just oppose everything the liberals are
00:24:22.260 doing just for the sake of being an opposition.
00:24:24.100 Right. And Tanya, what do you make of the, of the new liberal attack? It seems to be, uh,
00:24:30.340 it seems to be desperation.
00:24:32.180 Yeah, I think it's completely baseless. Um, if Pierre Polyev was only after a pension,
00:24:37.540 well, he would have left after he got his six years. I mean, he's still here 20 years later.
00:24:43.220 I think he cares very much about this country and he wants to see it restored to its former glory.
00:24:47.620 Um, I also think that there is such a thing as being right too early. And that's why the
00:24:53.140 conservatives haven't said anything about immigration up until very recently. If, uh,
00:24:58.100 you think about even a year ago, what was Canadians attitude in general towards immigration? Everybody
00:25:02.820 was very pro immigration. Um, everybody was very pro open border. I don't want to say everybody,
00:25:08.660 but many Canadians. And now it's just starting to come around that, you know, maybe we don't have
00:25:15.220 the capacity to, to support this many people all at once. And I think the conservatives are trying
00:25:20.820 to navigate that carefully so that the liberals can't use that against them.
00:25:24.180 Right. And I think, I think there are, there are, you know, as we've pointed out,
00:25:28.420 there are many things that you can criticize Pierre Polyev for. There is, as, as has been
00:25:33.620 discussed many times on my show and on others, um, this, this concern that members of the conservative
00:25:40.420 party are worried about being labeled are worried about being attacked by the legacy media and,
00:25:46.340 uh, and are because of that, a little bit soft on some of the core conservative principles.
00:25:52.020 However, I do find, I do find it funny that the, that the liberals are now attacking Polyev
00:25:56.660 for being anti deportations, uh, you know, a pandering and, uh, and making up the rhymes.
00:26:03.460 I think the rhymes, the rhymes and the slogans get a little tired for me, I have to say,
00:26:07.460 but it is, uh, it is clearly desperation from them. Desperation times. And what do they say?
00:26:13.380 Desperation calls for a desperate times call for desperate measures. And it looks as though
00:26:17.380 Miller is certainly, uh, has reached that point. I wanted to move on. We talked about the Mexican 1.00
00:26:22.660 president, uh, Claudia Scheinbaum in the last episode, because of her stance on the U S fentanyl 0.96
00:26:28.820 crisis. She's now changed her focus to go after Canada. And she said that, uh, the Canadians should 0.96
00:26:35.300 not be talking about the fentanyl issues that Mexico needs to be respected. Uh, and I believe
00:26:41.300 her exact words are as follows. Uh, Canada has a problem with fentanyl consumption among its citizens
00:26:47.780 due to a drug access policy that has implemented in previous years. It is different from the problem
00:26:52.260 that occurs in Mexico where consumption is minimal. Uh, I find this interesting, Tonya, I'll go to you.
00:26:58.660 Uh, it seems as though the Mexican president has forgot the part of the, uh, of fentanyl creation
00:27:04.180 part of this equation. Uh, clearly they don't have a problem because the Mexicans don't sell the 1.00
00:27:08.500 fentanyl to their own people. Yeah. It sounds like she's saying, well,
00:27:12.500 maybe we make it, but we don't use it. So, you know, that makes it okay.
00:27:16.340 Well, and they've obviously seen the movie Scarface where it's a, where the, the main lesson
00:27:21.540 that, uh, Tony Montana or Tony Montana, um, didn't take to heart was you never use your own product.
00:27:29.380 That's basically what they do. So, um, so yeah, of course they don't have a, uh, a narcotic
00:27:35.220 problem in Mexico because they're, they only make it, they don't use it. Well, and the Mexican 1.00
00:27:41.780 president says that Canada has a, uh, a access, uh, change in access policy. Well, you guys haven't
00:27:47.940 changed your export policy in a long, long time. Right. And I, I, I, I've been like almost,
00:27:54.260 almost to the point of being offended by what the Mexican president has been saying over the past
00:27:58.340 couple of days. I just find it outrageous, but then I've done, I've done a little bit of digging
00:28:02.500 and I learned that actually none of this should be surprising. The Mexican leadership have,
00:28:07.300 uh, have a history of saying outrageous things about the fentanyl crisis to, uh, divert any,
00:28:13.140 any bad attention on their own people. Famously, the previous Mexican president said of the U S
00:28:19.220 fentanyl crisis, the reason why the Americans are dying from fentanyl is because of a lack of hugs,
00:28:24.900 a lack of hugs. Uh, this was written in the AP in 2023. So that's the position of the Mexicans on 1.00
00:28:31.860 fentanyl crisis. They're not, the Americans aren't being hugged enough guys. So they need
00:28:36.100 one giant group hug in America and then they'll be fine. Very serious people down there clearly.
00:28:41.460 Um, and, uh, just, I mean, maybe I shouldn't be so offended there. That's just their, that's just
00:28:46.020 the way they roll. I now want to move on another classic example guys of, of the CBC and their position
00:28:53.140 on Pierre Polyev and, and immigration. We've known this for a while, but when you see it,
00:28:58.260 you just got to highlight it. You got to call it out. This came from David Cochran last night.
00:29:02.900 Justin Trudeau held a leaders meeting to inform Polyev, Jagmeet Singh, uh, Yves-Francois Blanchet,
00:29:10.100 even Elizabeth May got herself into that meeting shockingly, uh, to discuss what they can't,
00:29:15.220 what the Canadian approach is going to be to this tariff threat. Apparently, Justin Trudeau said to all
00:29:21.940 the leaders, please don't talk about the immigration failure that I have caused. Don't,
00:29:26.180 don't bring attention to the fact that we have an open border. It would be great if you could just,
00:29:30.340 you know, not talk about that. While Pierre Polyev went ahead, did his job, opposed the government
00:29:35.300 and talked about it immediately after the meeting. Take a look at how David Cochran responded to this.
00:29:40.980 Remember, he's supposed to be a journalist. So Kate on that, like all the national leaders get
00:29:45.700 together in the cabinet room. That's where they met apparently. And, and they were all asked to not say
00:29:49.700 things like the border is broken and in about 45 seconds, Pierre Polyev says the border is broken
00:29:54.340 and then he leads off question period about the broken border. Right. This is exactly the sort of
00:29:58.420 thing they're all being asked not to do because it, it, it helps the U.S. news cycle and helps the
00:30:03.860 president-elect's argument. Uh, he was making comments about the border well before that meeting.
00:30:08.740 Sure. Um, he had also done an entire media availability on Sunday where he talked about what he would do to
00:30:13.700 fix the border. So he's not just coming out and saying the border is a problem and it needs to be fixed.
00:30:18.900 He's also outlining a path for how it could be fixed in actions that the government could take.
00:30:23.220 So it's not just identification of a problem. There's also a solutions roadmap that he's identified.
00:30:28.340 Are you, are you guys surprised about the way the CBC is handling this?
00:30:32.740 I'll tell you, we're not proper journalists and I don't think even we would behave in that manner.
00:30:37.540 Yeah. Um, I, I must've left my surprise face downstairs. So sorry. I, I don't have that
00:30:43.620 with me right now. So, um, you'll have to settle with my not surprised face. Um, no, there, the,
00:30:49.220 the CBC has $1.3 billion, uh, reasons a year, um, to act this way. And, uh, and as we know,
00:30:57.700 there's a history between David Cochran and Justin Trudeau. They're frankly buddies.
00:31:02.660 Oh yeah. You got to take, take a look at this clip. We've showed it on true north before,
00:31:06.580 but remember back in 2019, David Cochran and the CBC were being so good to Justin Trudeau,
00:31:13.140 so good to the liberals, giving them some great headlines that Justin Trudeau decided to gift
00:31:18.980 David Cochran at a press conference, a poutine. He famously said these words,
00:31:23.060 take a look at this clip here. So David Cochran, the new host of power and politics,
00:31:39.300 attempting to hold the liberal government to account. It appears as though, uh, he knows,
00:31:43.300 he knows who buys him the poutine. Hey. Yeah. And evidently he got some extra gravy with that
00:31:49.220 because that gravy has lasted about five years, uh, up to now. So, um, and, uh, maybe he keeps
00:31:57.140 getting, you know, a, a, a new poutine delivered by, by Uber eats every week. I don't know, but, um,
00:32:04.100 something's happening. He's getting some sort of delivery from Justin Trudeau because he,
00:32:08.260 he keeps giving this over the top, I would say completely biased view just towards, uh, Justin
00:32:17.620 Trudeau and the liberals. And Tanya, like, let's get into this here. Let's just think about the
00:32:22.500 substance of what David Cochran is expecting of Pierre Polyev to not criticize Justin Trudeau's
00:32:29.700 government for arguably maybe their biggest failure in government, the most important and pressing
00:32:36.820 issue of the day. That is actually going to determine whether or not the Canadian economy
00:32:40.980 survives that can determine whether or not tens of thousands of Canadians have a job in the next
00:32:46.420 three months. David Cochran wants Trudeau, wants Pierre Polyev to be completely silent on that
00:32:52.260 and just go along with Justin Trudeau. I mean, that is an absurd ask at any time, but with this,
00:32:57.380 with these conditions, it's even crazier, even for the CBC. Yeah. In our Westminster parliamentary
00:33:03.380 system, the job of the official opposition is to hold the government to account. And if you have the
00:33:09.620 prime minister saying to the leaders of the opposition parties, please don't talk publicly about this.
00:33:14.820 Well then, how are those leaders supposed to hold the government to account? How is the media
00:33:19.620 supposed to find out about this and then hold the government to account? And how is the public
00:33:24.900 supposed to find out about this? So we as citizens can hold our elected officials to account. 0.89
00:33:29.780 Well, and this just goes back to the fact that Justin Trudeau doesn't take seriously who's the people
00:33:34.500 that actually pay his salary. You know, these are things that they should be discussed,
00:33:40.020 they should be available to the public. This isn't a matter of national security,
00:33:44.260 it's a matter of national embarrassment, but it's not a matter of national security and national
00:33:49.700 embarrassment. That is not a reason to be withholding, you know, this type of criticism
00:33:55.220 from the government. If anything, you know, the government needs more criticism, especially from
00:34:01.220 our mainstream media. Yet, all the politicians do is demonize all of the people that actually do
00:34:06.900 criticize them. That's why, you know, we're called, you know, these crazy, you know,
00:34:11.540 late night YouTubers that Justin Trudeau refers to in the House of Commons.
00:34:16.340 Right. I mean, honestly, we could have an entire show, probably an hour long show,
00:34:21.140 just going over what the CBC said the previous day. It seems to be getting worse. And I think,
00:34:27.860 I think it's just reinforcing the need for the CBC to face some significant restructuring,
00:34:32.740 as it appears as very likely going to happen. Well, that is all the time we have for on the
00:34:37.620 episode today. I'm afraid I've done it. Once again, you got to bear with me. We're still new
00:34:42.020 to this show. I forgot to read out to you the poll question for this episode, which you can find in
00:34:46.900 the pinned comment of this video. We want to hear you. We want to hear your comments. We also want
00:34:51.380 you to engage in the poll. The poll question for this episode is, do you think Trump will follow
00:34:56.740 through with his tariff threat or is he bluffing? Is he bluffing to Justin Trudeau? Let us know in
00:35:03.380 the pinned comment, your thoughts on that poll question. We will read out the results
00:35:07.300 on the next episode. But until then, thank you very much for tuning in. We'll see you next week.