Juno News - May 06, 2025


Trump WALKS ALL OVER Carney in EXPLOSIVE Oval Office meeting


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Summary

In this episode, we re doing a second episode today because something unbelievable just happened in Washington D.C. between Prime Minister Mark Carney and President Donald Trump in the Oval Office, and it was humiliating for both of them.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hi i'm candace malcolm and this is the candace malcolm show all right folks we are doing a second
00:00:06.740 episode today because something unbelievable just happened in washington dc mark carney and
00:00:11.960 donald trump met in the oval office things were going okay kind of donald trump was sort of
00:00:16.640 humiliating mark carney like low level just taking jabs and shots and then the q a happened and
00:00:21.740 everything unraveled and fell apart and it was chaos and it was humiliating for mark carney and
00:00:27.060 for canada we're going to get to it all but quickly if i could just ask you to do me a quick
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00:00:34.520 as many canadians as possible all right folks so mark carney was in washington dc as i said they
00:00:42.040 did their first official bilateral meeting between the canadian delegation and the americans in the
00:00:47.260 oval office with president donald trump i think this was a bad idea in the first place i think
00:00:51.700 after what happened with ukrainian president vladimir zelensky he was just absolutely lambasted in this
00:00:58.880 oval office in that exchange that happened where jd vance and donald trump just absolutely destroyed
00:01:04.280 him and it was so devastating for zelensky and his image and everything he was trying to do i'm
00:01:10.380 surprised that any world leader would go into this stage again into the sort of lion's den and yet here
00:01:16.180 we have mark carney just what one week and a half after winning the canadian election shows up in
00:01:22.000 washington with his delegation and let me just add that his delegation is entirely made up of former
00:01:27.860 trudeau liberal cabinet ministers so from the trump perspective the same administration that he absolutely
00:01:33.900 loathed right justin trudeau was out there undermining and trying to embarrass president trump
00:01:38.680 at every opportunity always taking jabs at trump always sort of trying to pretend that canadians were
00:01:44.020 somehow better than americans and taking shots at trump's same with christia freeland his former
00:01:49.240 deputy prime minister you know the whole idea the whole reason why carney was even able to get elected
00:01:55.080 in the first place is in part because you represented change in the minds of some canadians it's not
00:01:59.220 really a new administration when you show up with dominic leblanc melanie joly and i believe that's bill
00:02:04.080 blair the same people that were part of the trudeau government but alas this is what happened and i want
00:02:10.240 to basically play it to you in its entirety and i will jump in and make comments where necessary so
00:02:16.780 here it is folks this is the first bilateral agreement uh bilateral meeting between president
00:02:22.460 trump and prime minister mark carney great honor to have prime minister mark carney with us as you
00:02:28.360 know just a few days ago he won a very big election in canada and i think i was probably the greatest thing
00:02:35.400 that happened to him but i can't take a vote they were his party was losing by a lot and uh he ended
00:02:42.580 up winning so i really want to congratulate him was one of probably one of the greatest comebacks in the
00:02:46.980 history of politics maybe even greater than mine but i want to just uh congratulate you that was a great
00:02:54.020 election actually we were watching it with interest and i think uh candidate joe's a very talented person
00:02:59.360 a very good person because we spoke before the election quite a few times and uh tonight okay we
00:03:05.300 could stop it there for a second or you could just mute it and we'll keep it playing so folks
00:03:08.620 at home watching trump just spends a minute here just talking about the renovations that they've done
00:03:12.700 to the oval office but you could just see it from the beginning like mark carney is put in an awkward
00:03:17.540 situation right because trump does what trump does right he says that he himself like trump was the
00:03:22.780 greatest thing that's ever happened to mark carney and mark carney just has to kind of make a face
00:03:26.160 like it's not his story to talk and so he can't like talk over trump and interrupt him yeah you can see from
00:03:30.840 the b-roll here that they're just still talking about the renovation um that's gone on in the room
00:03:35.180 around him trump loves to sort of facilitate and be the host but carney's put an awkward situation
00:03:39.680 there he just kind of has to smirk trump takes credit basically for what happened to carney says
00:03:44.080 it was the greatest political comeback in history even more of a political comeback than his own so
00:03:49.200 what he's really saying is that like the liberals were completely devastated and down and out and if it
00:03:53.660 wasn't for him carney wouldn't be there wouldn't be premise which is true we all know this right but the
00:03:58.400 fact that he is at a official bilateral like state by state meeting here and trump is saying this it's just
00:04:04.540 embarrassing for carney i'm going to skip ahead here because trump goes down a tangent you can see
00:04:09.000 zooming in on marco rubio because he starts talking about the houthis and funding wars in the middle
00:04:13.900 east and beyond you can see jd vance there as well vice president um i'll just skip ahead to here and we
00:04:18.260 can go back to trump speaking about canada uh mark would you like to say a few words um well thank you
00:04:24.320 mr president i'm on the edge of my seat actually um but uh thank you for your hospitality and uh and above all
00:04:31.740 for your for your leadership you're a you're a transformational president uh focus on the economy
00:04:37.380 with a relentless focus on the american worker uh securing your borders um providing ending the
00:04:43.420 scourge of fentanyl and other opioids and uh and securing the world and i've been elected uh with uh
00:04:51.200 with my colleagues here with the help of my colleagues here i'm going to spread spread the uh
00:04:55.380 the uh credit uh to transform canada um with a similar focus on the economy securing our borders
00:05:02.360 uh again on fentanyl uh much greater focus on defense and security securing the arctic and developing
00:05:09.280 the arctic um and you know the history of canada and the u.s is we're stronger when we work together
00:05:14.680 and there's many opportunities to work together and i look forward to you know addressing some of
00:05:19.140 those issues that we have but also uh finding those areas of mutual cooperation so we can great
00:05:23.680 that's great very nice thank you very much it's a nice statement okay so let me just pause it for a
00:05:28.820 second there probably just pause it so from like that in and of itself was actually pretty good right
00:05:33.700 like i wouldn't say that mark carter necessarily like went in there and kissed the ring but he was
00:05:38.020 jovial he was friendly he was affable you could tell that they have a better relationship and a better
00:05:41.900 rapport than trump did with trudeau so already they're on to a better start but you know despite the
00:05:47.840 quite positive i would say back and forth it was quite short again trump spent like half of the
00:05:51.860 time that he was talking talking about the room he was in and then a different war in a different
00:05:55.280 part of the world and not really much about canada other than taking credit for our election and then
00:05:59.700 mark carter kind of said what he had to say he he was much more deferential to trump than he ever
00:06:04.280 would have been in canada now remember here at juno news we actually reported this we reported
00:06:08.420 that the head of the eurasia group who employs mark carter's wife and employs mark carter's advisor
00:06:14.200 uh gerald butts uh this is ian brebner he said that canada would quietly fold after the election
00:06:19.700 the mark carter would quietly fold i think that's what we just saw right we just saw him say to trump
00:06:24.240 you're a transformational president you've done so much for the worker uh we really admire you and
00:06:28.060 we want to build up your relationship and then hit all the points that trump want and fentanyl the
00:06:32.160 border the arctic uh carrying our fair share when it comes to military expenditures etc so really
00:06:38.560 different than the mark carter on the election campaign really different than the mark carter
00:06:42.620 that spoke to older liberal boomers and convinced basically all ndp voters across the country to go
00:06:48.320 on his side uh quite a different look i if i were one of those liberals one of those people who was an
00:06:52.680 ndp voter that switched sides and put mark carter over the edge i would look at that and feel a little
00:06:57.280 bit betrayed uh feel a little bit like mark carter put his elbows down um but that's that's just the
00:07:03.300 start right then the q a happens and then the media get their chance and this is where things go
00:07:08.760 really sideways for mark carter again i don't really know why he agreed to do this in the first
00:07:13.700 place if they had just done a quick meeting and you know say here we are we're doing our meeting
00:07:18.340 we're going to go negotiate behind closed doors that would have been better so journalists ask a
00:07:21.900 question and again this is where it just gets really uncomfortable because president trump resumes
00:07:25.680 his rhetoric right the whole 51st state thing didn't go away carney pretended that trump respects
00:07:29.900 canadian sovereignty during the campaign but that's not even true president trump you can tell he
00:07:34.600 continues to think he truly believes that it would be better if north america were just one giant
00:07:39.340 country and so he goes on his typical rant basically about how the border shouldn't exist is
00:07:45.400 artificial and mark carney's just left sitting there looking sheepish kind of grinning what can
00:07:50.480 he really say he can't really say anything and president trump is just walking all over him
00:07:54.800 it's really really embarrassing okay let's play this clip
00:07:57.180 mr president you have said that canada should become the first state
00:08:01.140 no no well i still believe that but but you know takes two to tango right
00:08:06.780 but no i do i mean i believe it would be a massive tax cut for the canadian citizens
00:08:13.000 uh you get free military you get tremendous uh medical cares and other things
00:08:19.020 there would be a lot of uh advantages but it would be it would be a massive tax cut
00:08:24.700 and it's also a beautiful you know as a real estate developer you know i'm a real estate
00:08:29.160 developer at heart when you get rid of that artificially drawn line somebody drew that line
00:08:33.840 many years ago with like a ruler just a straight line right across the top of the country when
00:08:38.760 you look at that beautiful formation when it's together i'm a very artistic person but when i
00:08:45.240 looked at that beauty i said that's the way it was meant to be but you know it uh i guess i do
00:08:51.180 feel it's much better for canada but we're not going to be discussing that unless somebody wants
00:08:56.700 to discuss it i think that um there are tremendous benefits to the canadian citizens tremendously lower
00:09:03.080 taxes free military which honestly we give you essentially anyway because we're protecting canada
00:09:08.700 if you ever had a problem but uh i think it you know it's uh it would really be a wonderful marriage
00:09:15.400 because it's it's two places they get along very well they like each other a lot
00:09:19.560 well if if if i may um as you know from real estate there are some places that uh are never
00:09:27.020 for sale that's true uh we're sitting in one right now you know buckingham palace that you visited as
00:09:31.660 well uh and uh having met with uh the owners of canada over the course of the campaign uh last
00:09:37.980 several months uh it it's not for sale won't be for sale uh ever uh but the opportunity is in the
00:09:44.960 partnership and uh and what we can build together and we have done that in the past and part of that
00:09:49.640 as the president just said is with respect to our own security uh and my government is committed for
00:09:56.620 a step change in our investment in canadian security and our partnership and i'll say this as well uh that
00:10:03.700 the president has uh revitalized uh international security revitalized nato uh and us playing our full
00:10:10.140 weight uh in nato and that will be part of it's true and they have i must say canada is stepping up
00:10:19.440 the military uh participation because uh mark knew you know they were low and now they're stepping it
00:10:26.240 up and that's a very important thing but never say never never say never
00:10:29.660 so just pure chaos absolute utter chaos in the oval office and you know mark rey's lucky that the camera
00:10:38.220 was zoomed in on trump when he was talking about the 51st state and the artificial border because
00:10:42.280 i would have hated to see mark carney's face i'm sure he was just smirking and grimacing like he was
00:10:46.980 when they zoomed out and he was on camera but folks like what can he really do right he could have
00:10:50.740 jumped in and said no mr president that's not going to happen but it would have been rude and mark
00:10:55.040 you could tell that he's trying to be a gentleman and that he's a polite person and so that's not really
00:10:59.080 in his temperament he comes back with a decent line you know some properties are just not for sale
00:11:02.820 and trump says that's true that's true but then trump gets the final line in never say never right
00:11:07.440 and really like again what can carney say he's just setting trump up this whole thing was kind of a
00:11:13.880 setup it was kind of a trap but the canadians walked right into okay next we have a clip of
00:11:18.300 donald trump just basically calling out christia freeland talking about trudeau and how much he despised
00:11:23.320 him talking about christia freeland this is not good folks this is not good okay let's play this clip
00:11:29.600 is the u.s. prepared to walk away from that pact or what usmca no not no no it's fine it's there
00:11:36.980 it's good we use it for certain things it's there we have the usmca is a good deal for everybody
00:11:41.960 i won't say this about mark but i didn't like his predecessor i didn't like a person that worked
00:11:49.660 she was terrible actually she was a terrible person and she really hurt that deal very badly because
00:11:55.400 she tried to take advantage of the deal and she didn't get away with it you know what i'm talking
00:12:00.780 about but uh so you know i had a we had a bad we had a bad relationship having to do with the fact
00:12:08.520 that we disagreed with the way they viewed the deal and we ended it you know we ended that uh that
00:12:14.220 relationship pretty much trudeau when i spoke to him i used to call him governor trudeau i think
00:12:18.560 that probably didn't help his election but when i spoke to him i said so why are we why are we taking
00:12:24.320 your cars why are we taking your we want to make them ourselves i mean i said and if the price of
00:12:31.160 your cars went up or if we put a tariff if we put a tariff on your cars of 25 percent what would that
00:12:38.340 mean to you he said that would mean the end of canada he actually said that to me and i said
00:12:43.720 that's a strange answer but i understand his answer but uh no i mean it's it's hard to justify
00:12:52.480 subsidizing canada to the tune of maybe 200 billion dollars a year uh we protect canada
00:12:59.320 militarily and we always will we're going to you know that's not a money thing that's but we always
00:13:04.100 will but you know it's not fair but why are we subsidizing canada 200 billion dollars a year or
00:13:11.360 whatever the number might be it's a very substantial number and it's hard for the american taxpayer to
00:13:16.660 say gee whiz we love doing that uh thank you very much we're going to have a very such
00:13:21.500 so you could you could just see mark kerney's so uncomfortable he's grasping his hands you remember
00:13:29.260 he was doing that during the debate as well but you could tell when he's uncomfortable and how could
00:13:33.540 you not be when president trump is smashing and slamming your predecessor naming names with christia
00:13:38.860 freeland basically and just saying how terrible she was and then pivoting on to the auto sector which
00:13:42.960 are so important to canada well at least ontario and so much what mark kerney has done has been to
00:13:47.520 promote them and then they just say like that's right cut it off and time to go i again i don't
00:13:52.980 know why carney would have fallen into this trap yes they were friendly you can tell that they're
00:13:57.960 actually probably good friends behind the scenes uh but i would describe that entire scene is just like
00:14:02.920 a train wreck a car crash not good for canada okay so after the that event ended mark kerney left he
00:14:09.960 went to a nearby building he was on a rooftop and he gave an address and i just want to show
00:14:15.240 the very first question that was asked to him was from a canadian reporter from the toronto star i
00:14:19.600 believe and she just says look your face during that meeting was a total tell uh tell us what was
00:14:24.840 going through your mind when donald trump was talking and what were you really thinking uh let's
00:14:29.400 play this clip good afternoon prime minister tonda mccharles toronto star and i was watching your face
00:14:35.080 through the meeting in the oval office and i wondered what was going through your mind when
00:14:39.960 the president talked about re-erasing the artificial border and how he criticized your predecessor and
00:14:45.560 madam freeland uh well um thank you for i guess for your question um i'm glad that you couldn't tell
00:14:53.320 what was going through my mind uh as that was going through um look the um on with respect to uh the first
00:15:01.400 point um the president has uh made known his wish uh about that issue for uh for some time uh i've been
00:15:12.280 careful always to distinguish between wish and reality i was clear there in the oval office as i've
00:15:18.520 been clear uh throughout uh on behalf of canadians that this is never going to happen canada's not for
00:15:23.880 sale it never will be for sale um some things as i said in the room some things are never for sale
00:15:30.680 and he agreed with that uh so um i distinguish between the two and then with respect to uh the
00:15:37.800 importance of re-establishing a constructive relationship for negotiations of a of a partnership
00:15:43.240 of an economic and security partnership which is what we were here for um i look for it not back and
00:15:50.680 i think we established a good basis today okay so you know kind of amusing it car you said well you're
00:15:56.200 asking that question so that's good that you couldn't tell what was going through my head yeah we could
00:15:59.880 all tell buddy we could all tell that you had made a very big mistake a bad decision to go to that
00:16:05.080 meeting in the first place and that you couldn't contain your uncomfortableness and your awkwardness
00:16:10.440 and basically the fact that president trump was humiliating you by continuing with this rhetoric
00:16:15.320 showing that he doesn't respect you as much as you played that he did i will give him some credit
00:16:20.440 that yes the relationship does seem to be better than it was under trudeau in part because donald trump
00:16:26.280 seems to take great joy and glee from the fact that mark carney had this huge political comeback
00:16:32.360 because of donald trump like parent polly have basically lost because donald trump inserted himself
00:16:38.520 into our election i don't think that that's even a stretch to say that trump is a major reason if not
00:16:44.120 the biggest reason why carney was elected and therefore carney kind of owes trump right like trump believes
00:16:50.280 that carney he kind of did carney a favor by helping him stay in power and therefore there's going to
00:16:55.400 be some kind of a special relationship based on that which is not good for canada not good for
00:17:00.600 the future of our two countries and future trade relationships really unbelievable what a train wreck
00:17:06.120 all right folks all the time we have for today thank you so much for tuning in we'll be back again
00:17:08.920 tomorrow with all the news i'm candace muckham this is the candace malcolm show thank you and god bless