Unhinged pro-Hamas protesters are everywhere
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Off The Record is a weekly podcast from True North's flagship podcast, Off The Record. Hosted by Rachael Emmanuel, Candace Malcolm, Rachelle Emmanuel, and Rachelle Malleolo, this week, Off the Record is all about the things that happened in the past week, the things we ve been up to, and the ones we re still trying to figure out.
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know i i don't know why i'm complaining about being a gen z or better that than a millennial
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i have a feel so i mean millennials were always like the young ones and now i feel old in any
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environment yeah i went i went to a conference and someone was speaking and he described himself
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as a geriatric millennial and then i realized he was like a year younger than me and i'm like okay
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if you're a geriatric millennial i'm like i don't even know what that makes me but i i was um when
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i was away last week i was um at a thing with someone who was like 12 years younger than me and
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someone told me that my daughter was beautiful so that felt great and then sean uh he the air
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canada woman when we were coming back from davos she thought he was my son and she literally had
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our passports in her hand and knew the age so i just chose to believe it was because sean
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looked 12 and not because i looked 50. but anyway let's get this started
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welcome everyone to off the record it is friday march 8th this is the time of the week when we
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all kick back enjoy a beverage of our choosing and try to unpack some of the things that happened
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in the week that was sometimes things we covered at true north and other times things that we didn't
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get around to but we do it well having some fun along the way and i am joined by candace malcolm
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and rachel emmanuel uh not intentionally but on international women's day we have the women
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outnumbering the men so happy international women's day to both of you ladies i don't know if you're
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being feted by your respective partners or how you're observing it are you observing it no someone
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someone came to me i dropped my son off at school today and someone one of the dads came up and said happy
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international women's day and i was like what like that's not a thing okay like you know mother's
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day yes that's a thing you know there's your birthday those are the i don't know i've never been
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one to care or recognize or even think about international women's day how are you rachel
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my question is is it actually international women's day or is it international woman x everyone
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who wants to identify as a woman's day because if it is i don't want any part of it
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women's day that's i i don't know how you earn it yeah i don't know how you're pronouncing it when
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they take the e out and put the x in but that's like a big thing on campus uh posters no one else
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knows either i guess all right we're off to a great start here all right well let us first and foremost
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say thank you for tuning into the show uh head on over to your preferred podcast platform and you can
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subscribe there and also like the video subscribe to the true north channel on youtube leave us a
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five-star review send a carrier pigeon to your neighbor and telling them the good news of this
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show i had a bit of news this week i announced on monday my forthcoming book my second book which
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is a biography of pierre polyev the leader of the conservative party of canada it's called pierre polyev
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a political life and what was interesting about it compared to my first book my previous book which
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was about the freedom convoy uh which had like a complete media blackout no one in the media
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recognized the book even though it was a number one bestseller for uh basically seven or eight weeks
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this one's not even out yet and the canadian press ran this uh story and they pushed it out to all their
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platforms uh conservative columnist andrew lotton to release first biography of pierre polyev and i was
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just so happy that the media was acknowledging it i didn't even really read the story and then candace
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you were trying to get me and succeeded in getting me riled up about the story what was it you
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saw in this okay so first of all congratulations andrew is a tremendous accomplishment to write a
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book and i think everyone's really interested in learning more about pierre polyev so you you went
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out and you had access and you did interviews and i think we're all really interested in including the
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mainstream media so they reluctantly covered it but one of the things i notice this is something that
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they've done for a long time probably the main the first time i noticed it andrew was back in 2019 when
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we tried to have you cover the liberal campaign and all of a sudden the liberal staffers came out and said
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andrew lawton's not a journalist he can't come on the on the bus and we were like okay if he's not a
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journalist what is he works for a news organization he's a radio host for goodness sake he interviews
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people and makes news every day like what is he oh oh he oh he's a conservative activist oh he's a
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commentator oh he's a columnist so i just found this story kind of funny and i've seen it about myself
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too that they'll sort of bend in a pretzel to not call you a journalist they'll call you like everything
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that's kind of journalist like but they won't use that word journalist so you go back to the the
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title of this piece it's it calls you a conservative columnist and then in the body of the piece it says
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conservative commentator andrew lawton is set to release biography of conservative leader pierre
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polyev wow and then this is a kind of amusing part it also notes that political journalist paul wells
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has written a book about prime minister justin trudeau's time and power so you kind of have these
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like dismissive terms describing you and pierre polyev and then when it comes to paul wells who
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don't get me wrong paul is one of the best uh political writers in canada i think he's an excellent
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writer but he left the toronto star and he now writes a sub stack so technically he's a blogger
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right he he's a blogger who who writes a blog a newsletter uh but they call him a political journalist
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uh whereas andrew and they even mention this later in the piece it says lawton is the managing editor
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of the conservative digital media company true north and he previously wrote this other book
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okay so so your job andrew is that you are the editor of a news site you you pitch news stories
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you you you uh mentor young journalists you help them write their stories you edit those stories and
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you publish those stories and you also have a radio show you also are hosting a podcast which is
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essentially a radio show where you interview news makers you break news stories i don't know every week
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uh but again you're not you're not a journalist uh but this other political blogger over here who's
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a liberal writing a bio about a liberal uh he he gets the title maybe i'm focusing a little bit too
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much on his pedantic but you know as someone who like you know they again they bend over backwards to
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not call you a journalist it's just it's just uh irked me a little bit yeah what's your take on this
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rachel like i said i mean i was the author i was just happy they were paying attention to it and then
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when you do parse the words i i get candace's point on this well i do apologize my take is much more
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cynical but what can you really expect from a gen z who grew up in this generation of just being hated
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by it seems like everyone as a conservative first and foremost you know congratulations on the book
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i'm deeply excited to read it i know there'll be some interesting tidbits and some juicy political
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gossip in there to be sure um i guess the first thing i noticed was yeah you know i'm glad for you
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that they got some coverage i know that your previous book was just sort of banned and black
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listed so hopefully that will lead to some additional sales and just some additional
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coverage on the story overall i do wonder if they would have covered it if canadian press would have
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covered it at all if paul wells hadn't also written a book and that because i got that same
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press release from your publisher so it was sort of like nicely neatly packaged story for canadian
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press there was no byline on the story so you know it was like okay let's cover this it's sort of an
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easy written rewrite that we can quickly put something out so you know maybe maybe it's possible that
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you got the coverage because paul wells was in there but honestly andrew i think they let you
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off easy i mean conservative commentator there's a lot worse things they could have said we both know
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yeah so let's just take the coverage yeah that's the bar was so low i was like oh conservative
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commentator okay it's not like right wing hate monger or something like that yeah yeah i think we
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just gotta you know celebrate the small victories when we get them of course candace is right to point
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out the discrepancies there and i'm sure the reporter who wrote it didn't even really think about that
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but uh you know we had a bit of a victory here i'm let's choose to see the positive side on things
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i guess well i just want to also make the note there's absolutely no correlation between mainstream
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media coverage of a book and book sales i know this we've published so many books and it doesn't
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matter at all like like it wouldn't matter if the globe and mail put like a whole spread about this book
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it wouldn't increase sales one bit i'm sure andrew your book uh on the freedom convoy sold
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tremendously well without uh the legacy media uh in involving itself and i think that kind of just
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also goes to show the irrelevancy of all of this like we're probably the only three people that that
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saw that headline and cared and they're actually talking about it so that that doesn't mean if you're
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if you're watching david walmsley doesn't mean i'll say no to the full globe and mail takeout
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absolutely i will i will welcome it i don't know if it will contribute too much to sales but uh you know
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know all press is good press and whatnot so all right on a less indulgent note uh i had a bit of
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a better treatment by the canadian press than justin trudeau had when he was on the ski slopes
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now uh by the way justin trudeau goes skiing is the epitome of what we used to call a dog bites man
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story i think when justin trudeau is not skiing that's more newsworthy uh but he was in thunder
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bay ontario and this was the reception he got on these slopes
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sorry i i have to do the daniel dale uh you know three pinocchio fact checking here uh he was
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snowboarding not skiing everything else still stands uh so this was uh pro-palestinian protesters that are
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demanding him calling for a ceasefire and he gives the response of no no i have been calling for a
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ceasefire i'm going to continue calling for a ceasefire and then he just uh snowboards away which
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is actually a great thing to do if people are bothering you just like literally slide away
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as you yell back at them uh the left though you know he's tried to flirt with these people
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and keep them happy since october and clearly rachel is not working well it's one of those cases i think
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where we see and we all sort of laugh oh the left eating their own there's really nothing that he
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can say that would go far enough for these people um i mean i think the obvious solution here is maybe
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if you spent a little more time working in an office and a little less time trading around the ski slopes
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then he wouldn't run into issues like these what's your take on that candace well i'm sure that justin
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trudeau wishes that he could just like snowboard away from like reporters asking questions on parliament hill
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uh and at least he can what one of the things that you notice here is that nothing that these
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left-wing politicians do will ever be enough right like justin trudeau has completely betrayed the
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jewish community in canada he's completely taken the wrong position on this whether it's being wishy-washy
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or wrongly condemning israel for bombing a hospital and it turns out that that was a palestinian jihad
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rocket like like they've just gotten this thing wrong over and over again and they're talking out of both
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sides of their mouth and you know he he deserves he deserves to be protested but it's interesting
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how rather than just kind of ignoring these protesters which is frankly what they deserve
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he tries to engage them and convince them like he tries to like i don't know i'm a good guy i i agree
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with you i'm i'm on the left too and i agree with you i've been calling for a ceasefire it's like
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good luck man like these these people are never going to be satisfied and if you keep going down that
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path and that rabbit hole like you're just going to turn more and more canadians and more more
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sensible people against you so it's kind of pathetic to see him trying to trying to talk to them or
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trying to convince them yeah the instinct is to win them over with with them and and it's a way that
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he doesn't engage with conservative protesters i mean when people are yelling at him about
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covet stuff about vaccine passports about you know whatever it is that you know would qualify as
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sort of a more conservative criticism those are the people he ignores he doesn't engage with
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them he he doesn't try to explain and meet them where they are but with these people you know
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secretly he's well not even secretly i'd say at this point you know he's like so sad because he's
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like he's one of them like he would be doing that if he had a different life and weren't the prime
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minister of canada he'd be the guy on the ski slopes like demanding the call for a ceasefire
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exactly and you know we we all know this we've seen it he doesn't engage he refused to talk to the
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truckers he refused to talk to you know people in alberta who are dissatisfied uh with his government
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and and yet on on the other side you're right andrew he goes and he talks to the far left he
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talks to quebec separatists he wants to win them all over uh because they're the people that he sees
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as like part of his canada whereas uh when it comes to people who have genuine concerns about the economy
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or you know there was one clip from from the fall it was so amusing someone was you know criticizing
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him for his carbon tax record and he he literally accused them of listening to putin and being like
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a propagandist and then walked away it was just like what okay i think for the left when he engages
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with them that's sort of sort of part part of his appeal if you think about during the like federal
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election campaigns he goes out and does those town halls and i feel like he does them quite
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effectively because he is willing to take questions from the audience sort of run off the fly and he often
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does a decent job of answering them especially if you were someone on the left and then of course with the
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conservatives when they come and ask a question they get the thank you for your donation response
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so there's definitely a bit of a parallel he's obviously not trying to win over conservative
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voters maybe appeal to some moderate moderates maybe appeal to those on the far right who would
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typically vote for the ndp but in the past i think he's done this to his success quite a bit far left
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yeah what did i say far right voting yes that you never know you never know politics gets uh gets
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wacky sometime well to your point candace about how people do uh tend to like they're
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never satisfied uh this also hit alexandria ocasio cortez or as one person called her alexandria
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occasional cortex which i think is quite witty but aoc was uh taking some time away from raising
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everyone's taxes to go to a movie with her fiancee at a theater in brooklyn and i don't know if she
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made if she like got through the movie or if she was hounded out i've heard conflicting things on that
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but she was accosted as that headline said by some similar protesters take a look
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it's not okay that there's a genocide happening you're not actively against it
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we're not lying we're not lying you haven't been calling it a genocide
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don't tell me i'm lying you've been to say it's a genocide just say it over 30 000 people are dead
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are dead aoc you can't just say it no one just say a word that's it that's all we want
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now i am not a fan at all of people doing that sort of stuff with politicians i don't like protesting
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them at you know when they're at their homes and stuff like that i i think generally though politicians
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need to make it make it a point to be available and accessible to people and and i i don't know how
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accessible she is however i also think that politicians need to live by the own their own
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standards so her thing there was this is not okay that's what she was saying this is not okay
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uh let's hear aoc's thoughts on protesting generally the whole point of protesting is to make
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people uncomfortable activists take that discomfort with the status quo and advocate for concrete policy
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changes popular support often starts small and grows to folks who complain protest demands make
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others uncomfortable that's the point but all of a sudden one is directed at you and when you have
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alienated your leftist supporters or people who are supporters one day all of a sudden it's this is
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not okay hmm what do we think i'll jump in with this one okay so i think aoc just went from
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being like a grassroots activist to like the establishment because she just switched sides and she realizes
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how unpleasant it is to actually have these you know hysterical shrieking people in your face
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demanding that you say the exact word that they demand that you say even though aoc has you know
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expressed that sentiment uh before i'll i'll just say that aoc's reaction and behavior here actually
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makes justin trudeau look good in comparison uh because she's just so petulant and angry and this is
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like how not to handle a protester by saying you're lying like shut up how dare you and storming away
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it's like you know you're being filmed you know this will be all over social media and it will kill
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your brand like what are you doing and no uh this is you know people i i don't even agree with what
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these protesters are saying they're doing but obviously they've got aoc it makes her just look
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absolutely terrible yeah she comes across as very frantic and and angry she probably would have been
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better off not saying anything at all but uh i find these types of protester interactions so cringy
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and uncomfortable there was something similar that happened during the general election here in the
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spring where there were some protesters that barged into one of danielle smith's press conferences when
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she was giving an announcement i believe on health care and it was sort of just like this protest that
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went on for too long because it's like they came in they were yelling they made their point and then
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everyone just stood around for five minutes and like the protesters just stood there waving their flags and
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no one was really sure what to do everybody's just kind of looking at each other awkwardly waiting
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for them to be cleared out of the room same thing here just went on for so long like how many escalators
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were there in that building like there's like four like it just kept going on and on and on i was like
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oh just let it end already make it yeah first i thought it was on a loop and then i'm like oh no
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what what's yeah what story that was my that was my question uh what floor is that movie theater on but
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you raise an important point not about the i mean the escalator point was i think valid but
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you raise a point about the what it is that the protesters want because oftentimes the people
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demonstrating are not actually smart people and they don't actually know anything about the cause
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and the reason that protesters are always in a pack is because none of them really know what to
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talk about or what to do if they're isolated like it would it be actually very easy for her to flip a
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script and again i'm with you candace i don't agree with what they're asking for and turn them around
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and just start asking them questions about the region that they have such a specific call for like i
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remember i was protested once uh when i was i wasn't even there as a republican voter i was
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covering the 2016 republican convention and there were a bunch of protesters that
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i didn't know i was there as media and i just started asking them questions and my goodness these
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people were complete morons they didn't know anything like i could have made their case better
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than they could have and they were the ones that bust in and put the placards up yeah but do we
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honestly think that aoc really understands anything about the issue either like is she the person that
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would be able to flip the script yeah no fair enough it's aoc with an iq of three um so where
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do we stand on the where this is going because like obviously politicians on the left right now are
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getting a little bit nervous about losing their base uh which has generally speaking been i think
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more in alignment with the the shouting protesters than anything else like do you think that like like
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do you think that the politicians are going to get some moral clarity in this or do you think
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eventually they're just going to go all in on the anti-israel train candace no i think they're
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going to capitulate because they have to right it's like i i mean look at these protesters they're
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everywhere and they're unrelenting like just in this past weekend right they shut down justin trudeau's
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event with italy uh prime minister george maloney and then as if that wasn't like enough of an
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accomplishment they moved uptown and started protesting suburban synagogues you know in communities in
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toronto like they they have no they have absolutely no sense of like society and what's what's like
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acceptable they don't care if everyone hates them they'll block traffic they'll block they're just
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doing everything they can to get attention and and they're fairly good at it i mean they i think that
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they have justin trudeau's ear he's worried about it certainly in the us joe biden is worried about it
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we see muslim leaders saying we're not going to turn up and support you we're not going to come vote for
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you unless you drastically change your position on israel and and sadly i think that they will
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ultimately have that influence because at the end of the day left-wing politicians need that base they
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need those people to show up to vote for them to even have a shot at winning against a conservative
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yeah very very well said uh this one is a bit of a local one for me not because i live in a tent city
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but i i live in in london ontario uh you sent uh this one i i believe candace encampments now part of
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the fabric of london and other cities city hall says now this is uh coming from my neck of the
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woods where uh city staff are predicting another summer of encampments in public parks and alongside
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the the city's thames river not the other london's river thames but the london ontario thames river
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although i wouldn't want to swim in either uh this is again i mean this is a london story but in reality
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this is pretty much the case of every single city and even smaller communities in the country right now this
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is the case in edmonton and calgary it's been vancouver for uh for years now it's the case in
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in toronto and i i do think that we're seeing kind of this it's almost gaslighting in a way like
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we're being told that this is just the normal way of doing things now well let's play this clip
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because there's a clip of a counselor talking about it and just this sort of jovial relaxed
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way that he's kind of just resigned to this is real life i think it's really telling so i think we
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have that clip let's see the strategy is a long-term vision for our community on how do we address
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encampments they are here to stay uh they are the fabric of every municipality now what is our
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strategy to support them and address them like like not just resign but kind of like happy about
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it like like this is the fabric of our society right when usually when you think of like the
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fabric of your study you think of like the moral values that hold us all together like the idea that
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like the food scene the art scene the local culture yeah but nobody even on a deeper level
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like a social fabric is something that you hear like social conservatives talking about and this
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guy is saying like what uh he's he's trying to sound like he's like a visionary like looking to the
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future we we have to like embrace this as like a new way of living and it's like no like anyone who
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knows anything about the instant cameras knows that they're dangerous they're very dirty it's it's not
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a good way to like there's a reason that we have as a society as a civilization progressed
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beyond people living like this right like we have indoor plumbing guys we we have like heating
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systems that keep us warm in the winter we don't have to live like this and we shouldn't and and
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these things should be banned police should break them up anybody who tries to live in public spaces
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on the streets in tents they they shouldn't be allowed to they should have to go to a shelter
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they should have to go indoors they should get arrested if not like you can't allow this to happen
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you can't just be resigned to the fact that it's here you have to take actual steps and actions
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against this type of behavior otherwise you just have complete social anarchy and it creates a
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dangerous situation for everyone i've lived in cities that have these tent the places that have
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these tent cities they're dangerous they're scary they make things less safe they make women less safe
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to walk around uh in in the city people living in those things i mean there's just horrible stories
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of crime sexual assault you know all kinds of awful terrible things you don't want them in your
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cities and and the fact that that politicians or the deputy city manager whoever was was talking
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about this uh was so relaxed about it andrew i i think you you you gotta uh work uh harder in london
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to turn your city around don't let them go down the path of vancouver and toronto please yeah i mean when
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you when you say that tent cities are part of the the fabric of the community well the fabric of the
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community is now nylon i guess that's the uh whatever tents are made of that's the there's there's the line
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there but i i mean i i i'm actually skeptical though of the the view that you can arrest your
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way out of it because at a certain point you uh do not have adequate shelter space you do not have
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people that have the the mental capacity to navigate these systems uh the idea of just using jails as you
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know warehouses for the homeless is problematic for a number of reasons so there there is a problem here
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and you have a lot of inter-jurisdictional buck passing but i wanted to ask you rachel as our resident
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and albert and i mean what was the story in edmonton because edmonton did a major clear out of a lot
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of these and i know it's probably a little bit too early to see what's happened of that but where
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are all those people now have they moved to other places are they in jail have they are they in
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shelters yeah edmonton has been taking this issue very seriously because as canis mentioned there is
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a major safety risk there is major risk for fires at the encampments and also nearby buildings
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and they are also finding that gangs in edmonton had a large presence in these camps so the safety risk is
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huge not only for the people living them in them but the people living in the buildings nearby
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or working in the buildings nearby so basically edmonton was in a position where they were
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allowed to clear the encampments so long as they had enough shelter space for all the residents to go
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into so they increased their shelter space and there's already policies in place to increase shelter
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space in edmonton during the winter because you obviously can't have people living outside and
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negative 30 i think we had temperatures of up to negative 40 negative 50 in some places so that they're
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taking that issue very seriously and the one thing that that counselor obviously a bit of a moron
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didn't mention was this is the fabric of our society well let's look at addressing the root causes
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because yes we can look at things like mental health and we can look at things like the cost of living
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but the main reason that we're seeing this is because of the high level of addictions that we're seeing
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and i don't know that many other provinces are taking that issue very seriously at all
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and until we start addressing the root causes of addiction these are only going to get worse we're only going to
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see more people resorting to living in intents because honestly when they're in that mindset
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you don't really care where you're living you're just focused on when you can get your next hit
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and i should clarify he's a bureaucrat not a counselor but i think the point still stands
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sorry candace go ahead well let me jump in and and partially reply to what you said earlier andrew and
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partially pick up on what rachel's talking about here with the drug addiction so when i say arrest these
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people you know there are shelter spaces most cities do have adequate shelter spaces and if not they have
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motels and hotels that they rent to provide spaces for these people the issue is rachel's point
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addiction they they don't want to go to the shelters because the shelters have rules about drugs
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and alcohol and these people don't want to follow it they don't want to follow any rules they want
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to do exactly what they want to do exactly when they want to do it they want to be on the street
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so they continue their drug use so when i say arrest them i'm talking about the people who are
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severely addicted to the drugs that the government provides right it's not just their fault these
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people live in a society in a framework where we not only legalize drugs but we give it to them
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for free and it's like what do these people need they they need support they need someone to help
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them get clean and get off the drugs so not necessarily just shoving them into jails uh to
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deal with i think that there needs to be much more infrastructure in our country when it comes to
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helping people get off drugs because that's ultimately what is best for them i think at a
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certain point you've kind of waived your right to freedom when you're creating externalities and
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you're out there causing chaos committing crimes doing dangerous things and destroying your body
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i i firmly believe that this idea behind drug legalization and giving drugs away is an absolute
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catastrophe in our society it needs to stop i think the government needs to implement more laws we need
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to be firmer to say no you cannot be a drug addict and live out on the streets and we need to figure out
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much more comprehensive solutions to getting these people permanently off of drugs so that they can start
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living a living a better life being better having the ability to contribute to society it's for their
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own human dignity as well like like it's it's not like the compassionate thing to do to allow these
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people to continue using drugs that's that's not compassionate at all it's actually cruel because
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they're continuing to live in their own torment and live in their own hell on these drugs and i i i just i
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think that we need to like seriously change our perspective when it comes to allowing people to use drugs in our
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cities well we i'm going to do things a little out of order here because i think you've kind of brought
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a natural segue when we were talking about imprisonment and incarceration uh because sometimes
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that could actually be a better life certainly if you are a federal inmate let's take a clip
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uh this is frank caputo who is a conservative member of parliament from british columbia we go straight
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to his cell and they open the door he's not there uh you can see that he wasn't there so i ask
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permission and i take a step in and it was really weird their margarine containers were drying on the
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top of his bunk i'm not sure why he had these mint chocolate bars off to the side he had a a electric
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razor i asked whether he paid for that himself he did you could see all these things and it looked like
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somebody very ordinary lived in that jail cell and yet he's a monster had to keep on reminding myself
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that this person did unspeakable things so let's take this back a second he is a serial murderer a
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serial rapist a dangerous offender and that's when i started to get angry because i walked outside
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and i had a look and i said what's that looks like a hockey rink it was inmates can go and they can get
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skates and they can play hockey there are hockey nets and everything if you want to play in the evening
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there are halogen lights it looked just like a an outdoor basketball court at a community center or
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or at your local baseball stadium so that's not bad enough the hockey rink well lit actually turns
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into a tennis court the man that frank caputo is talking about is none other than paul bernardo who has
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a string of brutal sexual assaults behind him as well as three murders and this is and again i mean
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canadians of a certain age are very very familiar with the paul bernardo and carla hamoka affair the
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fact that she's not rotting behind bars is a gross injustice of in our system uh paul bernardo is we
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wanted to believe but not rotting in maximum security he's in medium security and he has access to a
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hockey rink and a tennis court at various points in the year as conservative mp frank caputo learned but
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oh no no no the correctional service of canada says that's not the case because the uh uh the
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hockey rink is uh has uh had some malfunctions and they didn't set it up the last two years and uh
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well the tennis court i mean that hasn't yet been set up for the summer so uh they're saying it's
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entirely untrue when it is literally true the fact that your hockey rink has not been properly maintained
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does not undermine the core point there so uh yeah not bad how many canadians can say they have access
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to their own uh hockey rink and tennis court uh candace i mean it's just so cringy like this is
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the state of canada i don't be doing rant too much here but it's like everything is broken in our
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country nothing makes sense this is including paul bernardo's hockey rink it's also broken yeah
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yeah or poor paul we'll all cry a tear for for the serial killer and rapist uh but you know this is
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this is justin trudeau's canada right this is how we treat serious dangerous offenders in our country
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we we treat them with kid gloves we pamper them we want to make sure they're comfortable and safe
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and happy and and and really there isn't true justice when you have a criminal being treated this
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way and also andrew i i have to raise this point you know you had the liberals march out their online
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harms bill last week all we heard about was it was all about protecting kids and making sure kids were
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safe really you know this is a mass censorship bill that will completely weaponize uh speech and and
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set a chill into what canadians can do and say online but we're supposed to believe the liberals
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are the party that wants to protect kids uh okay paul bernardo is an absolute monster who tormented
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and raped and killed children the reality that this is this is how this is how the liberals so-called
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protect children well they don't do it at all and i think this story is is an example of that yeah and
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rachel to get you to build off that point we had some activists start talking about paul bernardo's
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privacy rights like they were they were more offended by the fact that a conservative mp was
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able to go into paul bernardo's cell than anything else that's the real source of outrage here yeah i
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don't personally care at all about paul bernardo's privacy rights in my opinion he should have been
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he should have been killed he should have been subject to the death penalty i don't believe he
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should have been allowed to live the story hits very close to home i grew up near saint catherine's my
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mom now lives in saint catherine's paul bernardo lived in a house in port deluzy not far from where my
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mom lived when i go for walks in one of the popular parks in the area there is a park bench
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dedicated to kristen french she was a young girl who was walking home from school and she was kidnapped
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by paul bernardo's uh carla homolka his girlfriend wife at the time and so you know this is an
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absolutely tragic story look at these young girls that were brutally tortured and killed by this this
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pair and so yeah i'm not really super interested in hearing about paul bernardo's privacy rights i think
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we should remember the faces behind the story that we too often forget we spend so much time
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discussing the killers and forgetting the lives that they took but also when we look at this why
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is paul bernardo in a medium security prison anyways he was transferred last year it was a
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big scandal when he was transferred because people found out about it after the fact and he should
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still be in a high security prison we wouldn't have to worry about these issues as much i think
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this skating rink has been in place for a long time the press progress report that it had been around
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since i believe 2014 so you know certainly we can ask questions as to why it exists at this medium
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security prison but the reality is that paul bernardo shouldn't be at a medium security prison
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yeah i think that's fair and again 2014 the conservatives were in government then so
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i i don't think this is a problem you can put squarely at the liberal government's feet i think
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it's a problem that really is revealing of where the bureaucracy is on this if you leave bureaucrats
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to their own devices these are the types of decisions they're going to make and i think it means that
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the elected governments need to be a lot more on top of this and again i to candace's point
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the ball is now in the liberals court they're aware of this so what they do about it's on them
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yeah don't i realize i didn't put a question mark at the end of that sentence uh we we can't end on
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paul bernardo uh i feel like we we can't send you into the weekend with uh that so uh we had some
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lighter fare for you uh we we have a couple one is is it's international women's day uh so we'll do
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a story about an international woman of sorts uh well i mean he's not but he's identifying as such
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this is in spain uh spanish soldiers changing gender to female for added benefits higher pay
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there have been 41 men in uh the city of i don't speak spanish suta say who have decided to change
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their gender from male to female under a relatively new trans law and they're doing this because they
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can make more money now they've kept every aspect of their male identity intact they mostly go by their
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male names they have uh male genitalia they're they were heterosexual men and then what happened
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was uh the one decided to say he feels like a lesbian now so uh we've now self-identified for the perks
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men are doing this everywhere they're doing this absolutely everywhere it's the same thing with
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dylan mulvaney is pretending to be a woman for the perks and for the attention of it all we're seeing
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the same things in sports here in alberta i believe biological men hold three of the four
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women's weight lifting records so i mean the story doesn't really surprise me when we have bad policy
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there's always going to be poor players that want to take advantage of that for their own benefit and
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at the same time you know in this instance you just kind of have to laugh at it because if you get so
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worked up about all these things you won't leave your bedroom anymore it's just so depressing out there
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so you really just have to poke fun at it i do feel bad for the female athletes but i personally
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probably wouldn't put myself in a position to compete against to compete against men well and i think the
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interesting thing is that from the leftist perspective there's no argument that they can
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push to defend this right because their entire ideology is that only you know what your gender
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is and gender is something inside you that's not tangible you can't measure it it's just how you feel
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right so some dude is like hey i'm a lesbian i'm a lady now give me higher pay and don't put me on the
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front lines or you know what whatever the changes are it's like there's literally nothing in the ideology
00:35:41.360
that says that that's wrong people gaming the system it's like well that's how he feels so you
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can't stop him and and and that's why like for us looking in from the outside it's so absurd so silly
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and funny uh but i i actually think it creates like a conundrum for the leftist activists because it's
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so absurd like their ideology is so absurd that it doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny and i think that
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this is a perfect example of that i i just feel i mean part of it as a as an historian an amateur historian i
00:36:07.120
get a little bit nervous about what this is going to look like for future generations of
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researchers and anthropologists that are like pouring over census records and are like wait
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why did the why did the the male female population change every year by like 15 and they just because
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we've moved beyond this they can't quite figure out why that was this is why watch off the record
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we'll explain it um all right uh from uh this is there's no segue uh to this arby's i have uh actually
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i don't maybe i've been doing arby's once i think they're the ones with the the curly fries um not
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the most popular fast food chain but it's a a fast food chain with a little bit of a footprint in
00:36:44.000
in canada and the u.s apparently there is no arby's in toronto which raised the ire of hundreds of uh
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self-styled arby's fans who organized a protest at an arby's in oshawa which is a
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city just outside of toronto just east of well maybe not just it depends on traffic on the 401
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uh but you can see their facebook page there 547 people responded to that the arby's army uh trying
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to get arby's to open a location in toronto uh now this i don't know if uh where we rank this on
00:37:19.520
protest as far as you know aoc in a brooklyn theater justin trudeau on the ski slopes uh oshawa
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arby's but do you think the do you think the good people of arby's are going to listen to this
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pressing civil rights protest at their doorstep candace i know you wanted to keep it light because
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it's the end of the show here but i get i get frustrated about it okay i'll tell a little
00:37:37.760
personal story my husband was at a work dinner in downtown toronto the other night and he somehow
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managed to cut his his thumb and his finger and it came down and he was worried that he had hit a
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tendon or something so we went to the emergency room to get some stitches and have a doctor look at it
00:37:51.280
okay i think it ended up taking him five hours to see a doctor like the state of canadian health
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care is absolutely atrocious it is absolutely atrocious that that is a level of care that
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someone gets i mean he was describing the hospital he was in it sounded like a third world country or
00:38:06.640
war zone lots of drug addicts a lot of people in handcuffs and it's like there are serious issues
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in this country like we're not going to get better health care unless people start protesting right
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unless people start making their voices be heard i don't understand why there aren't like 500
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advocacy organizations focused on improving our health care like that one issue is so important
00:38:26.000
it impacts you in so many different ways especially as you get older you start having kids you realize
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like how bad our health care system really is how long you have to wait how inefficient is how terrible
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is it's all government funded we don't have a choice we don't have an alternative like focus your
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attention on that canadians like please yes you know i know arby's is delicious or whatever
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you can drive you could drive to oshawa focus your attention on the things that matter let's
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improve our country let's let's let's put our efforts like channel this this effort you know
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channel your protest towards something that matters like let's fix our health care system
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let's get homeless and cameras on the street like there's just so many things that you can protest and
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i just don't understand people who uh do these frivolous protests i would actually take that a step
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farther and say until our health care system is improved you might just want to avoid fast food
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altogether it does make you sick it is very bad for your body and you know the health care that you're
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inevitably going to need is just not going to be there for you so maybe just avoid it until we
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get things sorted out because you're going to be waiting at those long hospital times if you continue
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to destroy your body and honestly those people of tron you have a chick-fil-a what are you complaining
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about i think you are all being incredibly insensitive to the arby's army who was motivated to put
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that uh put that event up again sean what what day of the week was it on uh i don't know i don't know oh
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the night so they're motivated to spend their saturday at an arby's in oshawa uh so i may maybe
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we should be less sensitive i know i'm actually yeah the more i think about this the more i'm on
00:39:52.160
team candace and uh team rachel although i will say uh if he had been waiting in toronto and there
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had been an arby's there uh maybe the weight would have just been as bad so uh all right we've got one
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more uh that we'll do here uh this one is for the plus 60 set uh we're not judging here uh i mean
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rachel is our our token youngin uh but we have a new study from the university of ottawa that finds
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older adults want to use emojis but lack the confidence to use them now emojis are the i mean
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we used to call them back in my day emoticons but emojis are like the the graphical versions of it so
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it's you know you saw them on the screen there the smiley faces the hearts the apples the eggplants
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the uh don't send the eggplants around please and don't google it but uh the thing that i will point
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out here is that apparently older adults are feeling left out they want to play the emoji game but they
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don't have the confidence now on one hand i would say throw caution to the wind open up the emoji board
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send them all with abandon on the other hand academic research has been done into this there was a
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university study that was in this does this candace fit into your category of with all the problems in
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the world to solve why is this the the one that we're looking into well i think it's a little bit
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of a social commentary i remember when because you know you call them emoticons it's sort of aging
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yourself and because that was a long time ago but basically it was like when the iphone came out and at
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one point they updated the ios and the the keyboard had these things on them and i mean i think it was
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like i don't know maybe 2014 or something it wasn't that long ago and at first it was like a total
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joke it was like what is all this stuff and people would use it ironically like it was like anyone
00:41:29.440
using it was so cheesy and lame and then all of a sudden it kind of flipped where it was like no no
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like younger people like like people like rachel denziers are using them not ironically and they're
00:41:39.280
actually communicating by them and i think it's just a total degradation of of our language and of
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our ability to communicate so you know if you're watching this and you're over 60 and you want to
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learn don't bother like like let's try to restore the english language let's not let's not like go down this
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path like barely communicating i feel like that's not quite a fair argument because when you're
00:41:58.320
texting you are just trying to be short and quick and maybe you can really send a lot of words and a
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lot of meaning with a quick emoji maybe we should actually really try to get back to having conversations
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in person or even over the phone and just you know get back to the days where everyone had flip phones
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and weren't spending so much time texting all the time that being said i don't actually blame people
00:42:16.160
for feeling insecure about using emojis because they can so often have double meanings or connotations
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like the eggplant so you kind of want to be careful what you send to people so you don't
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send a big signal so you know something like urban dictionary i think could probably be useful
00:42:30.560
for determining what something means i used to use emojis all the time and then uh upper management
00:42:35.760
at true north they're not on this call her name starts with a p said that using emojis was lame and
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it really got in my head and now i feel insecure about using them as well so i just try not to use
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them anymore especially if i'm tweeting wait we have upper management at true north oh i'll call
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phil out yeah it really got in my head start with an f um yeah that is a that is a funny one although
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at a certain point i i mean language evolves and it pains me to admit that uh because i i like to you
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know just you know you know i'll just use latin or something but uh you know man of the people that i
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am but at a certain point someone's epitaph on their tombstone is going to be in all emojis and
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we will just have to go and you know we'll walk by and be like ah yeah but you know that they also
00:43:20.320
then had purple hair on earth yeah oh yeah clearly a little bit like oh yes you know uh john smith you
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know carrot uh uk flag palm tree yes yes we remember him well i'll just i'll just make one final point
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with twitter i would actually defend using emojis on social media because they get your attention right
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like i remember when they first came out one of the first times i started using them if i had
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breaking news you put that like yellow or that red light emoji looks like a fire engine coming and
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it's like breaking news it just it's eye-catching so if the purpose of the communication is just to
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like grab people's attention it's not terrible but when when you're using it in in personal
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conversation to rachel's point i think we'd be better off trying to get back to like having more
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in-person conversations and phone conversations and less just towards like throwing a bunch of crap on
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the screen and supposedly that's communicating all right yeah there was i saw one circulating it was
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like one of those old like internet 1.0 memes that was recirculating of like someone who had texted
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their grandchild or their child and said you know your your great aunt has died or whatever lol
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and the person said why are you saying lol and the the older person was like i thought it meant lots of
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love oh no i and then realized they had been sending this to everyone so uh yeah so be confident
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about your ability to use emojis and net speak but be careful at the same time all right thanks
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for tuning in everyone just a reminder everything you have heard was off the record
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you are rachel i think the most phone happy gen z-er because like you're the only one that i work
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with that actually just calls me i know and then you kept calling me out for it and now i'm like
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insecure about calling you or like other people anymore you guys have to stop i feel like i respect
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you all so much that when you like say something about what i'm doing i'm like oh i'm not gonna do
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that anymore oh no i also did not have giving a plug for urban dictionary on my uh off the record
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bingo card today well it is true that the lol example my mom used to write wtf in tweets or in
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texts and we're like mom like what what are you saying and she thought wtf meant why the face or
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something like that it was like a response to an emoji why the face why the face yeah and we're
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like okay mom that's not what wtf means like please stop using it my mom does the k dot period and like
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like that's the worst text that you can receive it's like oh what have i done now