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00:00:00.000 know i i don't know why i'm complaining about being a gen z or better that than a millennial

00:00:03.840 i have a feel so i mean millennials were always like the young ones and now i feel old in any

00:00:07.760 environment yeah i went i went to a conference and someone was speaking and he described himself

00:00:12.000 as a geriatric millennial and then i realized he was like a year younger than me and i'm like okay

00:00:16.560 if you're a geriatric millennial i'm like i don't even know what that makes me but i i was um when

00:00:22.080 i was away last week i was um at a thing with someone who was like 12 years younger than me and

00:00:26.960 someone told me that my daughter was beautiful so that felt great and then sean uh he the air

00:00:32.960 canada woman when we were coming back from davos she thought he was my son and she literally had 0.68

00:00:37.920 our passports in her hand and knew the age so i just chose to believe it was because sean

00:00:42.320 looked 12 and not because i looked 50. but anyway let's get this started

00:00:45.600 welcome everyone to off the record it is friday march 8th this is the time of the week when we

00:00:59.040 all kick back enjoy a beverage of our choosing and try to unpack some of the things that happened

00:01:05.200 in the week that was sometimes things we covered at true north and other times things that we didn't

00:01:09.680 get around to but we do it well having some fun along the way and i am joined by candace malcolm

00:01:15.760 and rachel emmanuel uh not intentionally but on international women's day we have the women

00:01:22.160 outnumbering the men so happy international women's day to both of you ladies i don't know if you're 0.99

00:01:25.600 being feted by your respective partners or how you're observing it are you observing it no someone

00:01:30.800 someone came to me i dropped my son off at school today and someone one of the dads came up and said happy

00:01:34.960 international women's day and i was like what like that's not a thing okay like you know mother's

00:01:39.840 day yes that's a thing you know there's your birthday those are the i don't know i've never been

00:01:45.280 one to care or recognize or even think about international women's day how are you rachel

00:01:50.320 my question is is it actually international women's day or is it international woman x everyone

00:01:56.160 who wants to identify as a woman's day because if it is i don't want any part of it 0.99

00:01:59.440 women's day that's i i don't know how you earn it yeah i don't know how you're pronouncing it when

00:02:06.640 they take the e out and put the x in but that's like a big thing on campus uh posters no one else

00:02:12.880 knows either i guess all right we're off to a great start here all right well let us first and foremost

00:02:19.440 say thank you for tuning into the show uh head on over to your preferred podcast platform and you can

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00:02:29.680 five-star review send a carrier pigeon to your neighbor and telling them the good news of this

00:02:33.920 show i had a bit of news this week i announced on monday my forthcoming book my second book which

00:02:41.200 is a biography of pierre polyev the leader of the conservative party of canada it's called pierre polyev

00:02:47.280 a political life and what was interesting about it compared to my first book my previous book which

00:02:53.360 was about the freedom convoy uh which had like a complete media blackout no one in the media

00:02:58.320 recognized the book even though it was a number one bestseller for uh basically seven or eight weeks

00:03:03.200 this one's not even out yet and the canadian press ran this uh story and they pushed it out to all their

00:03:08.960 platforms uh conservative columnist andrew lotton to release first biography of pierre polyev and i was

00:03:14.640 just so happy that the media was acknowledging it i didn't even really read the story and then candace

00:03:19.520 you were trying to get me and succeeded in getting me riled up about the story what was it you

00:03:23.200 saw in this okay so first of all congratulations andrew is a tremendous accomplishment to write a

00:03:27.360 book and i think everyone's really interested in learning more about pierre polyev so you you went

00:03:32.480 out and you had access and you did interviews and i think we're all really interested in including the

00:03:37.120 mainstream media so they reluctantly covered it but one of the things i notice this is something that

00:03:41.360 they've done for a long time probably the main the first time i noticed it andrew was back in 2019 when

00:03:46.240 we tried to have you cover the liberal campaign and all of a sudden the liberal staffers came out and said

00:03:51.200 andrew lawton's not a journalist he can't come on the on the bus and we were like okay if he's not a

00:03:55.760 journalist what is he works for a news organization he's a radio host for goodness sake he interviews

00:04:00.000 people and makes news every day like what is he oh oh he oh he's a conservative activist oh he's a

00:04:06.160 commentator oh he's a columnist so i just found this story kind of funny and i've seen it about myself

00:04:11.520 too that they'll sort of bend in a pretzel to not call you a journalist they'll call you like everything

00:04:16.160 that's kind of journalist like but they won't use that word journalist so you go back to the the

00:04:20.800 title of this piece it's it calls you a conservative columnist and then in the body of the piece it says

00:04:26.080 conservative commentator andrew lawton is set to release biography of conservative leader pierre

00:04:30.080 polyev wow and then this is a kind of amusing part it also notes that political journalist paul wells

00:04:36.480 has written a book about prime minister justin trudeau's time and power so you kind of have these

00:04:40.080 like dismissive terms describing you and pierre polyev and then when it comes to paul wells who

00:04:45.920 don't get me wrong paul is one of the best uh political writers in canada i think he's an excellent

00:04:51.040 writer but he left the toronto star and he now writes a sub stack so technically he's a blogger

00:04:57.280 right he he's a blogger who who writes a blog a newsletter uh but they call him a political journalist

00:05:03.200 uh whereas andrew and they even mention this later in the piece it says lawton is the managing editor

00:05:08.800 of the conservative digital media company true north and he previously wrote this other book

00:05:12.320 okay so so your job andrew is that you are the editor of a news site you you pitch news stories

00:05:20.480 you you you uh mentor young journalists you help them write their stories you edit those stories and

00:05:26.560 you publish those stories and you also have a radio show you also are hosting a podcast which is

00:05:31.520 essentially a radio show where you interview news makers you break news stories i don't know every week

00:05:37.040 uh but again you're not you're not a journalist uh but this other political blogger over here who's

00:05:41.280 a liberal writing a bio about a liberal uh he he gets the title maybe i'm focusing a little bit too

00:05:46.640 much on his pedantic but you know as someone who like you know they again they bend over backwards to

00:05:51.520 not call you a journalist it's just it's just uh irked me a little bit yeah what's your take on this

00:05:58.480 rachel like i said i mean i was the author i was just happy they were paying attention to it and then

00:06:01.920 when you do parse the words i i get candace's point on this well i do apologize my take is much more

00:06:08.160 cynical but what can you really expect from a gen z who grew up in this generation of just being hated 0.52

00:06:13.360 by it seems like everyone as a conservative first and foremost you know congratulations on the book

00:06:17.600 i'm deeply excited to read it i know there'll be some interesting tidbits and some juicy political

00:06:22.240 gossip in there to be sure um i guess the first thing i noticed was yeah you know i'm glad for you

00:06:28.000 that they got some coverage i know that your previous book was just sort of banned and black

00:06:31.520 listed so hopefully that will lead to some additional sales and just some additional

00:06:34.640 coverage on the story overall i do wonder if they would have covered it if canadian press would have

00:06:39.440 covered it at all if paul wells hadn't also written a book and that because i got that same

00:06:43.520 press release from your publisher so it was sort of like nicely neatly packaged story for canadian

00:06:49.040 press there was no byline on the story so you know it was like okay let's cover this it's sort of an

00:06:52.880 easy written rewrite that we can quickly put something out so you know maybe maybe it's possible that

00:06:57.520 you got the coverage because paul wells was in there but honestly andrew i think they let you

00:07:01.040 off easy i mean conservative commentator there's a lot worse things they could have said we both know

00:07:05.520 yeah so let's just take the coverage yeah that's the bar was so low i was like oh conservative

00:07:09.920 commentator okay it's not like right wing hate monger or something like that yeah yeah i think we

00:07:14.720 just gotta you know celebrate the small victories when we get them of course candace is right to point 0.63

00:07:18.480 out the discrepancies there and i'm sure the reporter who wrote it didn't even really think about that

00:07:23.760 but uh you know we had a bit of a victory here i'm let's choose to see the positive side on things

00:07:28.400 i guess well i just want to also make the note there's absolutely no correlation between mainstream

00:07:33.120 media coverage of a book and book sales i know this we've published so many books and it doesn't

00:07:38.000 matter at all like like it wouldn't matter if the globe and mail put like a whole spread about this book

00:07:43.440 it wouldn't increase sales one bit i'm sure andrew your book uh on the freedom convoy sold

00:07:49.200 tremendously well without uh the legacy media uh in involving itself and i think that kind of just

00:07:55.520 also goes to show the irrelevancy of all of this like we're probably the only three people that that

00:08:01.120 saw that headline and cared and they're actually talking about it so that that doesn't mean if you're

00:08:04.880 if you're watching david walmsley doesn't mean i'll say no to the full globe and mail takeout

00:08:08.960 absolutely i will i will welcome it i don't know if it will contribute too much to sales but uh you know

00:08:14.320 know all press is good press and whatnot so all right on a less indulgent note uh i had a bit of

00:08:20.320 a better treatment by the canadian press than justin trudeau had when he was on the ski slopes

00:08:26.160 now uh by the way justin trudeau goes skiing is the epitome of what we used to call a dog bites man

00:08:31.600 story i think when justin trudeau is not skiing that's more newsworthy uh but he was in thunder

00:08:36.160 bay ontario and this was the reception he got on these slopes

00:08:50.160 sorry i i have to do the daniel dale uh you know three pinocchio fact checking here uh he was

00:09:10.000 snowboarding not skiing everything else still stands uh so this was uh pro-palestinian protesters that are

00:09:17.520 demanding him calling for a ceasefire and he gives the response of no no i have been calling for a

00:09:22.640 ceasefire i'm going to continue calling for a ceasefire and then he just uh snowboards away which

00:09:26.880 is actually a great thing to do if people are bothering you just like literally slide away

00:09:31.520 as you yell back at them uh the left though you know he's tried to flirt with these people

00:09:38.080 and keep them happy since october and clearly rachel is not working well it's one of those cases i think 0.99

00:09:45.280 where we see and we all sort of laugh oh the left eating their own there's really nothing that he

00:09:49.600 can say that would go far enough for these people um i mean i think the obvious solution here is maybe

00:09:54.480 if you spent a little more time working in an office and a little less time trading around the ski slopes

00:09:59.360 then he wouldn't run into issues like these what's your take on that candace well i'm sure that justin

00:10:05.760 trudeau wishes that he could just like snowboard away from like reporters asking questions on parliament hill

00:10:10.880 uh and at least he can what one of the things that you notice here is that nothing that these

00:10:14.880 left-wing politicians do will ever be enough right like justin trudeau has completely betrayed the

00:10:19.360 jewish community in canada he's completely taken the wrong position on this whether it's being wishy-washy

00:10:24.800 or wrongly condemning israel for bombing a hospital and it turns out that that was a palestinian jihad

00:10:30.400 rocket like like they've just gotten this thing wrong over and over again and they're talking out of both

00:10:34.400 sides of their mouth and you know he he deserves he deserves to be protested but it's interesting

00:10:41.360 how rather than just kind of ignoring these protesters which is frankly what they deserve

00:10:46.080 he tries to engage them and convince them like he tries to like i don't know i'm a good guy i i agree

00:10:50.880 with you i'm i'm on the left too and i agree with you i've been calling for a ceasefire it's like

00:10:55.840 good luck man like these these people are never going to be satisfied and if you keep going down that

00:11:00.400 path and that rabbit hole like you're just going to turn more and more canadians and more more 0.91

00:11:04.400 sensible people against you so it's kind of pathetic to see him trying to trying to talk to them or 0.91

00:11:09.680 trying to convince them yeah the instinct is to win them over with with them and and it's a way that 0.56

00:11:14.960 he doesn't engage with conservative protesters i mean when people are yelling at him about

00:11:19.280 covet stuff about vaccine passports about you know whatever it is that you know would qualify as

00:11:24.720 sort of a more conservative criticism those are the people he ignores he doesn't engage with

00:11:29.280 them he he doesn't try to explain and meet them where they are but with these people you know

00:11:34.000 secretly he's well not even secretly i'd say at this point you know he's like so sad because he's

00:11:38.320 like he's one of them like he would be doing that if he had a different life and weren't the prime

00:11:42.240 minister of canada he'd be the guy on the ski slopes like demanding the call for a ceasefire

00:11:48.400 exactly and you know we we all know this we've seen it he doesn't engage he refused to talk to the

00:11:53.920 truckers he refused to talk to you know people in alberta who are dissatisfied uh with his government

00:11:59.360 and and yet on on the other side you're right andrew he goes and he talks to the far left he

00:12:02.800 talks to quebec separatists he wants to win them all over uh because they're the people that he sees 0.97

00:12:07.120 as like part of his canada whereas uh when it comes to people who have genuine concerns about the economy

00:12:12.320 or you know there was one clip from from the fall it was so amusing someone was you know criticizing

00:12:17.440 him for his carbon tax record and he he literally accused them of listening to putin and being like

00:12:23.440 a propagandist and then walked away it was just like what okay i think for the left when he engages

00:12:29.440 with them that's sort of sort of part part of his appeal if you think about during the like federal

00:12:33.600 election campaigns he goes out and does those town halls and i feel like he does them quite

00:12:37.440 effectively because he is willing to take questions from the audience sort of run off the fly and he often

00:12:42.560 does a decent job of answering them especially if you were someone on the left and then of course with the

00:12:46.560 conservatives when they come and ask a question they get the thank you for your donation response

00:12:50.800 so there's definitely a bit of a parallel he's obviously not trying to win over conservative

00:12:54.960 voters maybe appeal to some moderate moderates maybe appeal to those on the far right who would

00:12:58.480 typically vote for the ndp but in the past i think he's done this to his success quite a bit far left

00:13:05.200 yeah what did i say far right voting yes that you never know you never know politics gets uh gets

00:13:10.800 wacky sometime well to your point candace about how people do uh tend to like they're

00:13:16.480 never satisfied uh this also hit alexandria ocasio cortez or as one person called her alexandria

00:13:24.800 occasional cortex which i think is quite witty but aoc was uh taking some time away from raising

00:13:30.880 everyone's taxes to go to a movie with her fiancee at a theater in brooklyn and i don't know if she 1.00

00:13:37.920 made if she like got through the movie or if she was hounded out i've heard conflicting things on that

00:13:43.360 but she was accosted as that headline said by some similar protesters take a look

00:13:49.440 you refuse to call it a genocide

00:13:55.280 it's not okay that there's a genocide happening you're not actively against it

00:13:59.760 i'm lying you're not

00:14:00.960 we're not lying we're not lying you haven't been calling it a genocide

00:14:23.280 don't tell me i'm lying you've been to say it's a genocide just say it over 30 000 people are dead

00:14:31.040 are dead aoc you can't just say it no one just say a word that's it that's all we want

00:14:38.480 now i am not a fan at all of people doing that sort of stuff with politicians i don't like protesting

00:14:46.400 them at you know when they're at their homes and stuff like that i i think generally though politicians

00:14:51.680 need to make it make it a point to be available and accessible to people and and i i don't know how

00:14:56.560 accessible she is however i also think that politicians need to live by the own their own

00:15:01.440 standards so her thing there was this is not okay that's what she was saying this is not okay

00:15:06.400 uh let's hear aoc's thoughts on protesting generally the whole point of protesting is to make

00:15:14.320 people uncomfortable activists take that discomfort with the status quo and advocate for concrete policy

00:15:20.160 changes popular support often starts small and grows to folks who complain protest demands make

00:15:25.680 others uncomfortable that's the point but all of a sudden one is directed at you and when you have

00:15:30.480 alienated your leftist supporters or people who are supporters one day all of a sudden it's this is

00:15:35.840 not okay hmm what do we think i'll jump in with this one okay so i think aoc just went from

00:15:43.120 being like a grassroots activist to like the establishment because she just switched sides and she realizes

00:15:48.240 how unpleasant it is to actually have these you know hysterical shrieking people in your face

00:15:52.880 demanding that you say the exact word that they demand that you say even though aoc has you know

00:15:58.560 expressed that sentiment uh before i'll i'll just say that aoc's reaction and behavior here actually

00:16:04.800 makes justin trudeau look good in comparison uh because she's just so petulant and angry and this is 0.85

00:16:12.400 like how not to handle a protester by saying you're lying like shut up how dare you and storming away 0.97

00:16:19.280 it's like you know you're being filmed you know this will be all over social media and it will kill 0.84

00:16:23.520 your brand like what are you doing and no uh this is you know people i i don't even agree with what

00:16:30.320 these protesters are saying they're doing but obviously they've got aoc it makes her just look 1.00

00:16:35.360 absolutely terrible yeah she comes across as very frantic and and angry she probably would have been 1.00

00:16:41.040 better off not saying anything at all but uh i find these types of protester interactions so cringy

00:16:46.880 and uncomfortable there was something similar that happened during the general election here in the

00:16:50.800 spring where there were some protesters that barged into one of danielle smith's press conferences when 1.00

00:16:55.840 she was giving an announcement i believe on health care and it was sort of just like this protest that

00:17:00.560 went on for too long because it's like they came in they were yelling they made their point and then

00:17:04.880 everyone just stood around for five minutes and like the protesters just stood there waving their flags and

00:17:09.200 no one was really sure what to do everybody's just kind of looking at each other awkwardly waiting

00:17:12.320 for them to be cleared out of the room same thing here just went on for so long like how many escalators

00:17:16.240 were there in that building like there's like four like it just kept going on and on and on i was like

00:17:19.840 oh just let it end already make it yeah first i thought it was on a loop and then i'm like oh no

00:17:24.240 what what's yeah what story that was my that was my question uh what floor is that movie theater on but

00:17:30.080 you raise an important point not about the i mean the escalator point was i think valid but

00:17:33.920 you raise a point about the what it is that the protesters want because oftentimes the people

00:17:38.240 demonstrating are not actually smart people and they don't actually know anything about the cause

00:17:42.720 and the reason that protesters are always in a pack is because none of them really know what to

00:17:49.920 talk about or what to do if they're isolated like it would it be actually very easy for her to flip a 0.97

00:17:55.120 script and again i'm with you candace i don't agree with what they're asking for and turn them around

00:17:58.960 and just start asking them questions about the region that they have such a specific call for like i

00:18:03.680 remember i was protested once uh when i was i wasn't even there as a republican voter i was

00:18:08.640 covering the 2016 republican convention and there were a bunch of protesters that

00:18:12.480 i didn't know i was there as media and i just started asking them questions and my goodness these 0.98

00:18:16.560 people were complete morons they didn't know anything like i could have made their case better 0.99

00:18:22.160 than they could have and they were the ones that bust in and put the placards up yeah but do we 1.00

00:18:26.800 honestly think that aoc really understands anything about the issue either like is she the person that

00:18:30.800 would be able to flip the script yeah no fair enough it's aoc with an iq of three um so where

00:18:38.880 do we stand on the where this is going because like obviously politicians on the left right now are

00:18:45.280 getting a little bit nervous about losing their base uh which has generally speaking been i think

00:18:50.560 more in alignment with the the shouting protesters than anything else like do you think that like like

00:18:55.440 do you think that the politicians are going to get some moral clarity in this or do you think

00:18:58.480 eventually they're just going to go all in on the anti-israel train candace no i think they're

00:19:02.720 going to capitulate because they have to right it's like i i mean look at these protesters they're

00:19:07.360 everywhere and they're unrelenting like just in this past weekend right they shut down justin trudeau's

00:19:12.400 event with italy uh prime minister george maloney and then as if that wasn't like enough of an

00:19:18.000 accomplishment they moved uptown and started protesting suburban synagogues you know in communities in

00:19:24.080 toronto like they they have no they have absolutely no sense of like society and what's what's like

00:19:31.440 acceptable they don't care if everyone hates them they'll block traffic they'll block they're just

00:19:35.520 doing everything they can to get attention and and they're fairly good at it i mean they i think that

00:19:41.120 they have justin trudeau's ear he's worried about it certainly in the us joe biden is worried about it

00:19:46.000 we see muslim leaders saying we're not going to turn up and support you we're not going to come vote for

00:19:50.080 you unless you drastically change your position on israel and and sadly i think that they will

00:19:55.360 ultimately have that influence because at the end of the day left-wing politicians need that base they

00:20:00.000 need those people to show up to vote for them to even have a shot at winning against a conservative

00:20:05.360 yeah very very well said uh this one is a bit of a local one for me not because i live in a tent city

00:20:11.120 but i i live in in london ontario uh you sent uh this one i i believe candace encampments now part of

00:20:17.440 the fabric of london and other cities city hall says now this is uh coming from my neck of the

00:20:23.920 woods where uh city staff are predicting another summer of encampments in public parks and alongside

00:20:28.960 the the city's thames river not the other london's river thames but the london ontario thames river

00:20:34.080 although i wouldn't want to swim in either uh this is again i mean this is a london story but in reality

00:20:40.560 this is pretty much the case of every single city and even smaller communities in the country right now this

00:20:46.800 is the case in edmonton and calgary it's been vancouver for uh for years now it's the case in

00:20:52.480 in toronto and i i do think that we're seeing kind of this it's almost gaslighting in a way like

00:20:58.320 we're being told that this is just the normal way of doing things now well let's play this clip

00:21:03.040 because there's a clip of a counselor talking about it and just this sort of jovial relaxed

00:21:06.560 way that he's kind of just resigned to this is real life i think it's really telling so i think we

00:21:10.800 have that clip let's see the strategy is a long-term vision for our community on how do we address

00:21:16.240 encampments they are here to stay uh they are the fabric of every municipality now what is our

00:21:22.960 strategy to support them and address them like like not just resign but kind of like happy about

00:21:28.640 it like like this is the fabric of our society right when usually when you think of like the

00:21:32.080 fabric of your study you think of like the moral values that hold us all together like the idea that

00:21:35.760 like the food scene the art scene the local culture yeah but nobody even on a deeper level

00:21:40.880 like a social fabric is something that you hear like social conservatives talking about and this

00:21:44.400 guy is saying like what uh he's he's trying to sound like he's like a visionary like looking to the

00:21:49.520 future we we have to like embrace this as like a new way of living and it's like no like anyone who

00:21:55.520 knows anything about the instant cameras knows that they're dangerous they're very dirty it's it's not

00:22:00.320 a good way to like there's a reason that we have as a society as a civilization progressed

00:22:05.200 beyond people living like this right like we have indoor plumbing guys we we have like heating

00:22:10.320 systems that keep us warm in the winter we don't have to live like this and we shouldn't and and

00:22:15.120 these things should be banned police should break them up anybody who tries to live in public spaces

00:22:20.320 on the streets in tents they they shouldn't be allowed to they should have to go to a shelter

00:22:25.040 they should have to go indoors they should get arrested if not like you can't allow this to happen

00:22:29.360 you can't just be resigned to the fact that it's here you have to take actual steps and actions

00:22:34.640 against this type of behavior otherwise you just have complete social anarchy and it creates a

00:22:40.640 dangerous situation for everyone i've lived in cities that have these tent the places that have

00:22:45.520 these tent cities they're dangerous they're scary they make things less safe they make women less safe

00:22:50.080 to walk around uh in in the city people living in those things i mean there's just horrible stories

00:22:55.520 of crime sexual assault you know all kinds of awful terrible things you don't want them in your

00:23:02.000 cities and and the fact that that politicians or the deputy city manager whoever was was talking

00:23:06.720 about this uh was so relaxed about it andrew i i think you you you gotta uh work uh harder in london

00:23:13.920 to turn your city around don't let them go down the path of vancouver and toronto please yeah i mean when

00:23:18.640 you when you say that tent cities are part of the the fabric of the community well the fabric of the

00:23:23.920 community is now nylon i guess that's the uh whatever tents are made of that's the there's there's the line

00:23:28.960 there but i i mean i i i'm actually skeptical though of the the view that you can arrest your

00:23:34.240 way out of it because at a certain point you uh do not have adequate shelter space you do not have

00:23:39.680 people that have the the mental capacity to navigate these systems uh the idea of just using jails as you

00:23:46.160 know warehouses for the homeless is problematic for a number of reasons so there there is a problem here

00:23:52.000 and you have a lot of inter-jurisdictional buck passing but i wanted to ask you rachel as our resident 0.95

00:23:56.240 and albert and i mean what was the story in edmonton because edmonton did a major clear out of a lot

00:24:01.040 of these and i know it's probably a little bit too early to see what's happened of that but where

00:24:05.760 are all those people now have they moved to other places are they in jail have they are they in

00:24:09.760 shelters yeah edmonton has been taking this issue very seriously because as canis mentioned there is

00:24:14.800 a major safety risk there is major risk for fires at the encampments and also nearby buildings

00:24:19.600 and they are also finding that gangs in edmonton had a large presence in these camps so the safety risk is

00:24:24.320 huge not only for the people living them in them but the people living in the buildings nearby

00:24:28.480 or working in the buildings nearby so basically edmonton was in a position where they were

00:24:32.320 allowed to clear the encampments so long as they had enough shelter space for all the residents to go

00:24:37.920 into so they increased their shelter space and there's already policies in place to increase shelter

00:24:41.840 space in edmonton during the winter because you obviously can't have people living outside and

00:24:45.680 negative 30 i think we had temperatures of up to negative 40 negative 50 in some places so that they're 0.98

00:24:51.120 taking that issue very seriously and the one thing that that counselor obviously a bit of a moron 1.00

00:24:55.600 didn't mention was this is the fabric of our society well let's look at addressing the root causes 0.98

00:25:00.560 because yes we can look at things like mental health and we can look at things like the cost of living

00:25:04.560 but the main reason that we're seeing this is because of the high level of addictions that we're seeing

00:25:08.960 and i don't know that many other provinces are taking that issue very seriously at all

00:25:12.560 and until we start addressing the root causes of addiction these are only going to get worse we're only going to

00:25:16.960 see more people resorting to living in intents because honestly when they're in that mindset

00:25:21.040 you don't really care where you're living you're just focused on when you can get your next hit

00:25:25.200 and i should clarify he's a bureaucrat not a counselor but i think the point still stands

00:25:30.000 sorry candace go ahead well let me jump in and and partially reply to what you said earlier andrew and

00:25:34.800 partially pick up on what rachel's talking about here with the drug addiction so when i say arrest these

00:25:39.440 people you know there are shelter spaces most cities do have adequate shelter spaces and if not they have

00:25:44.800 motels and hotels that they rent to provide spaces for these people the issue is rachel's point

00:25:49.920 addiction they they don't want to go to the shelters because the shelters have rules about drugs

00:25:53.760 and alcohol and these people don't want to follow it they don't want to follow any rules they want

00:25:56.800 to do exactly what they want to do exactly when they want to do it they want to be on the street

00:26:00.480 so they continue their drug use so when i say arrest them i'm talking about the people who are

00:26:04.400 severely addicted to the drugs that the government provides right it's not just their fault these

00:26:09.120 people live in a society in a framework where we not only legalize drugs but we give it to them

00:26:13.840 for free and it's like what do these people need they they need support they need someone to help

00:26:19.120 them get clean and get off the drugs so not necessarily just shoving them into jails uh to

00:26:24.080 deal with i think that there needs to be much more infrastructure in our country when it comes to

00:26:28.160 helping people get off drugs because that's ultimately what is best for them i think at a

00:26:32.080 certain point you've kind of waived your right to freedom when you're creating externalities and

00:26:35.920 you're out there causing chaos committing crimes doing dangerous things and destroying your body 0.83

00:26:41.920 i i firmly believe that this idea behind drug legalization and giving drugs away is an absolute

00:26:48.480 catastrophe in our society it needs to stop i think the government needs to implement more laws we need

00:26:53.600 to be firmer to say no you cannot be a drug addict and live out on the streets and we need to figure out

00:26:59.680 much more comprehensive solutions to getting these people permanently off of drugs so that they can start

00:27:04.480 living a living a better life being better having the ability to contribute to society it's for their

00:27:11.840 own human dignity as well like like it's it's not like the compassionate thing to do to allow these

00:27:16.960 people to continue using drugs that's that's not compassionate at all it's actually cruel because

00:27:21.120 they're continuing to live in their own torment and live in their own hell on these drugs and i i i just i

00:27:28.000 think that we need to like seriously change our perspective when it comes to allowing people to use drugs in our

00:27:33.360 cities well we i'm going to do things a little out of order here because i think you've kind of brought

00:27:38.000 a natural segue when we were talking about imprisonment and incarceration uh because sometimes

00:27:43.360 that could actually be a better life certainly if you are a federal inmate let's take a clip

00:27:49.840 uh this is frank caputo who is a conservative member of parliament from british columbia we go straight

00:27:56.160 to his cell and they open the door he's not there uh you can see that he wasn't there so i ask

00:28:01.840 permission and i take a step in and it was really weird their margarine containers were drying on the

00:28:07.120 top of his bunk i'm not sure why he had these mint chocolate bars off to the side he had a a electric

00:28:13.680 razor i asked whether he paid for that himself he did you could see all these things and it looked like

00:28:20.080 somebody very ordinary lived in that jail cell and yet he's a monster had to keep on reminding myself 0.92

00:28:27.520 that this person did unspeakable things so let's take this back a second he is a serial murderer a 0.92

00:28:33.760 serial rapist a dangerous offender and that's when i started to get angry because i walked outside 0.52

00:28:39.680 and i had a look and i said what's that looks like a hockey rink it was inmates can go and they can get

00:28:47.360 skates and they can play hockey there are hockey nets and everything if you want to play in the evening

00:28:52.240 there are halogen lights it looked just like a an outdoor basketball court at a community center or

00:28:57.200 or at your local baseball stadium so that's not bad enough the hockey rink well lit actually turns

00:29:03.280 into a tennis court the man that frank caputo is talking about is none other than paul bernardo who has

00:29:12.960 a string of brutal sexual assaults behind him as well as three murders and this is and again i mean

00:29:20.640 canadians of a certain age are very very familiar with the paul bernardo and carla hamoka affair the

00:29:26.320 fact that she's not rotting behind bars is a gross injustice of in our system uh paul bernardo is we

00:29:32.880 wanted to believe but not rotting in maximum security he's in medium security and he has access to a

00:29:39.520 hockey rink and a tennis court at various points in the year as conservative mp frank caputo learned but

00:29:45.920 oh no no no the correctional service of canada says that's not the case because the uh uh the

00:29:50.560 hockey rink is uh has uh had some malfunctions and they didn't set it up the last two years and uh

00:29:55.840 well the tennis court i mean that hasn't yet been set up for the summer so uh they're saying it's

00:29:59.600 entirely untrue when it is literally true the fact that your hockey rink has not been properly maintained

00:30:06.000 does not undermine the core point there so uh yeah not bad how many canadians can say they have access

00:30:11.680 to their own uh hockey rink and tennis court uh candace i mean it's just so cringy like this is

00:30:18.400 the state of canada i don't be doing rant too much here but it's like everything is broken in our

00:30:22.560 country nothing makes sense this is including paul bernardo's hockey rink it's also broken yeah

00:30:27.040 yeah or poor paul we'll all cry a tear for for the serial killer and rapist uh but you know this is

00:30:33.040 this is justin trudeau's canada right this is how we treat serious dangerous offenders in our country

00:30:39.280 we we treat them with kid gloves we pamper them we want to make sure they're comfortable and safe

00:30:43.600 and happy and and and really there isn't true justice when you have a criminal being treated this

00:30:48.480 way and also andrew i i have to raise this point you know you had the liberals march out their online

00:30:53.680 harms bill last week all we heard about was it was all about protecting kids and making sure kids were

00:30:58.880 safe really you know this is a mass censorship bill that will completely weaponize uh speech and and

00:31:05.040 set a chill into what canadians can do and say online but we're supposed to believe the liberals

00:31:09.440 are the party that wants to protect kids uh okay paul bernardo is an absolute monster who tormented 0.95

00:31:16.160 and raped and killed children the reality that this is this is how this is how the liberals so-called

00:31:22.560 protect children well they don't do it at all and i think this story is is an example of that yeah and

00:31:28.240 rachel to get you to build off that point we had some activists start talking about paul bernardo's

00:31:33.280 privacy rights like they were they were more offended by the fact that a conservative mp was

00:31:37.600 able to go into paul bernardo's cell than anything else that's the real source of outrage here yeah i

00:31:43.120 don't personally care at all about paul bernardo's privacy rights in my opinion he should have been

00:31:47.280 he should have been killed he should have been subject to the death penalty i don't believe he

00:31:50.080 should have been allowed to live the story hits very close to home i grew up near saint catherine's my 0.60

00:31:55.120 mom now lives in saint catherine's paul bernardo lived in a house in port deluzy not far from where my

00:31:59.200 mom lived when i go for walks in one of the popular parks in the area there is a park bench

00:32:03.200 dedicated to kristen french she was a young girl who was walking home from school and she was kidnapped

00:32:08.000 by paul bernardo's uh carla homolka his girlfriend wife at the time and so you know this is an

00:32:13.920 absolutely tragic story look at these young girls that were brutally tortured and killed by this this

00:32:19.280 pair and so yeah i'm not really super interested in hearing about paul bernardo's privacy rights i think

00:32:23.600 we should remember the faces behind the story that we too often forget we spend so much time

00:32:27.520 discussing the killers and forgetting the lives that they took but also when we look at this why

00:32:31.520 is paul bernardo in a medium security prison anyways he was transferred last year it was a

00:32:35.440 big scandal when he was transferred because people found out about it after the fact and he should

00:32:39.920 still be in a high security prison we wouldn't have to worry about these issues as much i think

00:32:43.280 this skating rink has been in place for a long time the press progress report that it had been around

00:32:47.760 since i believe 2014 so you know certainly we can ask questions as to why it exists at this medium

00:32:52.160 security prison but the reality is that paul bernardo shouldn't be at a medium security prison

00:32:57.520 yeah i think that's fair and again 2014 the conservatives were in government then so

00:33:02.000 i i don't think this is a problem you can put squarely at the liberal government's feet i think

00:33:05.840 it's a problem that really is revealing of where the bureaucracy is on this if you leave bureaucrats

00:33:10.480 to their own devices these are the types of decisions they're going to make and i think it means that

00:33:14.240 the elected governments need to be a lot more on top of this and again i to candace's point

00:33:20.240 the ball is now in the liberals court they're aware of this so what they do about it's on them

00:33:23.680 yeah don't i realize i didn't put a question mark at the end of that sentence uh we we can't end on

00:33:33.040 paul bernardo uh i feel like we we can't send you into the weekend with uh that so uh we had some

00:33:39.200 lighter fare for you uh we we have a couple one is is it's international women's day uh so we'll do

00:33:44.400 a story about an international woman of sorts uh well i mean he's not but he's identifying as such

00:33:50.480 this is in spain uh spanish soldiers changing gender to female for added benefits higher pay

00:33:58.880 there have been 41 men in uh the city of i don't speak spanish suta say who have decided to change

00:34:06.720 their gender from male to female under a relatively new trans law and they're doing this because they 0.86

00:34:13.680 can make more money now they've kept every aspect of their male identity intact they mostly go by their

00:34:19.440 male names they have uh male genitalia they're they were heterosexual men and then what happened 0.66

00:34:26.240 was uh the one decided to say he feels like a lesbian now so uh we've now self-identified for the perks 0.85

00:34:34.000 men are doing this everywhere they're doing this absolutely everywhere it's the same thing with

00:34:36.960 dylan mulvaney is pretending to be a woman for the perks and for the attention of it all we're seeing 1.00

00:34:41.200 the same things in sports here in alberta i believe biological men hold three of the four

00:34:46.240 women's weight lifting records so i mean the story doesn't really surprise me when we have bad policy

00:34:51.840 there's always going to be poor players that want to take advantage of that for their own benefit and

00:34:55.840 at the same time you know in this instance you just kind of have to laugh at it because if you get so

00:34:59.600 worked up about all these things you won't leave your bedroom anymore it's just so depressing out there

00:35:04.160 so you really just have to poke fun at it i do feel bad for the female athletes but i personally

00:35:08.560 probably wouldn't put myself in a position to compete against to compete against men well and i think the

00:35:15.040 interesting thing is that from the leftist perspective there's no argument that they can

00:35:20.000 push to defend this right because their entire ideology is that only you know what your gender

00:35:25.440 is and gender is something inside you that's not tangible you can't measure it it's just how you feel

00:35:30.560 right so some dude is like hey i'm a lesbian i'm a lady now give me higher pay and don't put me on the 1.00

00:35:35.680 front lines or you know what whatever the changes are it's like there's literally nothing in the ideology

00:35:41.360 that says that that's wrong people gaming the system it's like well that's how he feels so you 0.62

00:35:45.360 can't stop him and and and that's why like for us looking in from the outside it's so absurd so silly

00:35:49.840 and funny uh but i i actually think it creates like a conundrum for the leftist activists because it's

00:35:54.560 so absurd like their ideology is so absurd that it doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny and i think that

00:36:00.000 this is a perfect example of that i i just feel i mean part of it as a as an historian an amateur historian i

00:36:07.120 get a little bit nervous about what this is going to look like for future generations of

00:36:10.880 researchers and anthropologists that are like pouring over census records and are like wait

00:36:15.120 why did the why did the the male female population change every year by like 15 and they just because 0.95

00:36:21.520 we've moved beyond this they can't quite figure out why that was this is why watch off the record

00:36:25.920 we'll explain it um all right uh from uh this is there's no segue uh to this arby's i have uh actually

00:36:32.880 i don't maybe i've been doing arby's once i think they're the ones with the the curly fries um not

00:36:37.760 the most popular fast food chain but it's a a fast food chain with a little bit of a footprint in

00:36:44.000 in canada and the u.s apparently there is no arby's in toronto which raised the ire of hundreds of uh

00:36:51.920 self-styled arby's fans who organized a protest at an arby's in oshawa which is a

00:36:59.440 city just outside of toronto just east of well maybe not just it depends on traffic on the 401

00:37:04.560 uh but you can see their facebook page there 547 people responded to that the arby's army uh trying

00:37:11.040 to get arby's to open a location in toronto uh now this i don't know if uh where we rank this on

00:37:19.520 protest as far as you know aoc in a brooklyn theater justin trudeau on the ski slopes uh oshawa

00:37:25.040 arby's but do you think the do you think the good people of arby's are going to listen to this

00:37:28.880 pressing civil rights protest at their doorstep candace i know you wanted to keep it light because

00:37:34.400 it's the end of the show here but i get i get frustrated about it okay i'll tell a little

00:37:37.760 personal story my husband was at a work dinner in downtown toronto the other night and he somehow

00:37:42.800 managed to cut his his thumb and his finger and it came down and he was worried that he had hit a

00:37:47.120 tendon or something so we went to the emergency room to get some stitches and have a doctor look at it

00:37:51.280 okay i think it ended up taking him five hours to see a doctor like the state of canadian health

00:37:56.720 care is absolutely atrocious it is absolutely atrocious that that is a level of care that

00:38:01.840 someone gets i mean he was describing the hospital he was in it sounded like a third world country or

00:38:06.640 war zone lots of drug addicts a lot of people in handcuffs and it's like there are serious issues

00:38:11.040 in this country like we're not going to get better health care unless people start protesting right

00:38:16.160 unless people start making their voices be heard i don't understand why there aren't like 500

00:38:20.640 advocacy organizations focused on improving our health care like that one issue is so important

00:38:26.000 it impacts you in so many different ways especially as you get older you start having kids you realize

00:38:30.320 like how bad our health care system really is how long you have to wait how inefficient is how terrible

00:38:35.120 is it's all government funded we don't have a choice we don't have an alternative like focus your

00:38:39.520 attention on that canadians like please yes you know i know arby's is delicious or whatever

00:38:45.040 you can drive you could drive to oshawa focus your attention on the things that matter let's

00:38:48.880 improve our country let's let's let's put our efforts like channel this this effort you know

00:38:53.920 channel your protest towards something that matters like let's fix our health care system

00:38:58.320 let's get homeless and cameras on the street like there's just so many things that you can protest and

00:39:02.480 i just don't understand people who uh do these frivolous protests i would actually take that a step

00:39:06.960 farther and say until our health care system is improved you might just want to avoid fast food

00:39:11.840 altogether it does make you sick it is very bad for your body and you know the health care that you're

00:39:16.160 inevitably going to need is just not going to be there for you so maybe just avoid it until we

00:39:20.240 get things sorted out because you're going to be waiting at those long hospital times if you continue

00:39:24.160 to destroy your body and honestly those people of tron you have a chick-fil-a what are you complaining 1.00

00:39:27.280 about i think you are all being incredibly insensitive to the arby's army who was motivated to put 0.88

00:39:34.160 that uh put that event up again sean what what day of the week was it on uh i don't know i don't know oh

00:39:40.800 the night so they're motivated to spend their saturday at an arby's in oshawa uh so i may maybe

00:39:48.560 we should be less sensitive i know i'm actually yeah the more i think about this the more i'm on

00:39:52.160 team candace and uh team rachel although i will say uh if he had been waiting in toronto and there

00:39:58.160 had been an arby's there uh maybe the weight would have just been as bad so uh all right we've got one

00:40:03.360 more uh that we'll do here uh this one is for the plus 60 set uh we're not judging here uh i mean

00:40:10.640 rachel is our our token youngin uh but we have a new study from the university of ottawa that finds

00:40:16.560 older adults want to use emojis but lack the confidence to use them now emojis are the i mean

00:40:25.280 we used to call them back in my day emoticons but emojis are like the the graphical versions of it so

00:40:30.400 it's you know you saw them on the screen there the smiley faces the hearts the apples the eggplants

00:40:34.640 the uh don't send the eggplants around please and don't google it but uh the thing that i will point

00:40:39.280 out here is that apparently older adults are feeling left out they want to play the emoji game but they

00:40:43.200 don't have the confidence now on one hand i would say throw caution to the wind open up the emoji board

00:40:48.000 send them all with abandon on the other hand academic research has been done into this there was a

00:40:56.240 university study that was in this does this candace fit into your category of with all the problems in

00:41:01.120 the world to solve why is this the the one that we're looking into well i think it's a little bit

00:41:05.200 of a social commentary i remember when because you know you call them emoticons it's sort of aging

00:41:10.400 yourself and because that was a long time ago but basically it was like when the iphone came out and at

00:41:14.320 one point they updated the ios and the the keyboard had these things on them and i mean i think it was

00:41:20.160 like i don't know maybe 2014 or something it wasn't that long ago and at first it was like a total

00:41:24.240 joke it was like what is all this stuff and people would use it ironically like it was like anyone

00:41:29.440 using it was so cheesy and lame and then all of a sudden it kind of flipped where it was like no no

00:41:34.080 like younger people like like people like rachel denziers are using them not ironically and they're

00:41:39.280 actually communicating by them and i think it's just a total degradation of of our language and of

00:41:44.240 our ability to communicate so you know if you're watching this and you're over 60 and you want to

00:41:48.400 learn don't bother like like let's try to restore the english language let's not let's not like go down this

00:41:53.440 path like barely communicating i feel like that's not quite a fair argument because when you're

00:41:58.320 texting you are just trying to be short and quick and maybe you can really send a lot of words and a

00:42:03.120 lot of meaning with a quick emoji maybe we should actually really try to get back to having conversations

00:42:07.760 in person or even over the phone and just you know get back to the days where everyone had flip phones

00:42:12.000 and weren't spending so much time texting all the time that being said i don't actually blame people

00:42:16.160 for feeling insecure about using emojis because they can so often have double meanings or connotations

00:42:22.800 like the eggplant so you kind of want to be careful what you send to people so you don't

00:42:26.160 send a big signal so you know something like urban dictionary i think could probably be useful

00:42:30.560 for determining what something means i used to use emojis all the time and then uh upper management

00:42:35.760 at true north they're not on this call her name starts with a p said that using emojis was lame and 0.98

00:42:40.640 it really got in my head and now i feel insecure about using them as well so i just try not to use

00:42:44.640 them anymore especially if i'm tweeting wait we have upper management at true north oh i'll call

00:42:52.000 phil out yeah it really got in my head start with an f um yeah that is a that is a funny one although

00:42:59.200 at a certain point i i mean language evolves and it pains me to admit that uh because i i like to you

00:43:05.360 know just you know you know i'll just use latin or something but uh you know man of the people that i

00:43:09.360 am but at a certain point someone's epitaph on their tombstone is going to be in all emojis and

00:43:16.000 we will just have to go and you know we'll walk by and be like ah yeah but you know that they also

00:43:20.320 then had purple hair on earth yeah oh yeah clearly a little bit like oh yes you know uh john smith you

00:43:25.200 know carrot uh uk flag palm tree yes yes we remember him well i'll just i'll just make one final point

00:43:32.320 with twitter i would actually defend using emojis on social media because they get your attention right

00:43:36.240 like i remember when they first came out one of the first times i started using them if i had

00:43:40.000 breaking news you put that like yellow or that red light emoji looks like a fire engine coming and

00:43:44.560 it's like breaking news it just it's eye-catching so if the purpose of the communication is just to

00:43:49.920 like grab people's attention it's not terrible but when when you're using it in in personal

00:43:54.880 conversation to rachel's point i think we'd be better off trying to get back to like having more 0.85

00:43:59.040 in-person conversations and phone conversations and less just towards like throwing a bunch of crap on

00:44:04.240 the screen and supposedly that's communicating all right yeah there was i saw one circulating it was

00:44:10.160 like one of those old like internet 1.0 memes that was recirculating of like someone who had texted

00:44:15.760 their grandchild or their child and said you know your your great aunt has died or whatever lol

00:44:21.600 and the person said why are you saying lol and the the older person was like i thought it meant lots of

00:44:26.240 love oh no i and then realized they had been sending this to everyone so uh yeah so be confident

00:44:31.840 about your ability to use emojis and net speak but be careful at the same time all right thanks

00:44:37.200 for tuning in everyone just a reminder everything you have heard was off the record

00:44:50.000 you are rachel i think the most phone happy gen z-er because like you're the only one that i work 0.98

00:44:54.560 with that actually just calls me i know and then you kept calling me out for it and now i'm like

00:44:58.800 insecure about calling you or like other people anymore you guys have to stop i feel like i respect

00:45:03.040 you all so much that when you like say something about what i'm doing i'm like oh i'm not gonna do

00:45:06.800 that anymore oh no i also did not have giving a plug for urban dictionary on my uh off the record

00:45:12.800 bingo card today well it is true that the lol example my mom used to write wtf in tweets or in

00:45:20.560 texts and we're like mom like what what are you saying and she thought wtf meant why the face or

00:45:26.000 something like that it was like a response to an emoji why the face why the face yeah and we're

00:45:31.120 like okay mom that's not what wtf means like please stop using it my mom does the k dot period and like

00:45:36.800 like that's the worst text that you can receive it's like oh what have i done now

Juno News - March 08, 2024

Unhinged pro-Hamas protesters are everywhere

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