The Canadian Taxpayers Federation, the Campaign Life Coalition, and the Ontario Federation of Labour join us to talk about the Million Person March on Wednesday, and why they believe there is a crisis of hate within the parental rights movement.
00:02:02.860I've seen like a whole bunch of different names for it.
00:02:04.560But we're going to go with the Million Person March on Wednesday, taking place at 9 a.m.
00:02:08.820across the country in cities from London to Ottawa to Calgary to Toronto to Kelowna to
00:02:14.380Chatham to, I think, Kamloops has one as well.
00:02:17.100And at its core, it is a protest for parental rights.
00:02:21.260People are going to be pulling their kids out of school.
00:02:23.780And as a result, it's a little bit interesting to see how many of the unions have decided to get up in arms about this and start pushing back.
00:02:32.420You may have seen circulating on social media, there was a Zoom call that took place over the weekend
00:02:37.700in which several union reps from CUPE Ontario, the Ontario Federation of Labour,
00:02:43.320the Canadian Labour Congress, all got together to put their heads together, such as they are,
00:02:49.220and come up with ways to push back against this. As one trans activist said, they want to stop it
00:02:55.920dead in its tracks. Now, this call leaked and everyone's like talking about it as though it's
00:03:00.860some big, huge bombshell. I mean, the reality is they wanted people to be involved. They wanted
00:03:05.180this thing to be seen. They're not talking about anything that you didn't already know they were
00:03:09.920talking about. But the thing is, they believe there is a pressing crisis afoot right now. They
00:03:15.040believe it is a crisis of hate, that there is hate, hate, hate, hate, hate going on. And that it is
00:03:20.760the parental rights movement that is the great purveyor of hatred. And it was an interesting
00:03:26.400little thing to see. This is Patty Coates, who was one of the union organizers outlining why they
00:03:32.580were having this rapid response call. To kick us off, I'm going to turn it over to OFL President
00:03:38.640Patty Coates, for a welcome and a land acknowledgement. Patty.
00:03:44.800Thanks, Rob. I want to thank everyone for being here on such short notice. As you saw from our
00:03:53.840memo that we sent out, there's a number of protest events that are taking place all across Canada.
00:04:02.240We can't just let this be idle. We need to be able to organize. We need to connect with our communities in Ontario. From what I know, there's approximately 22 different events that are taking place, and there could be more now.
00:04:20.580But as allies and those that protect workers' rights, protect our kids' rights and the rights of trans and our 2SLGBTQ plus community, we felt it very important that we do come together to fight against the rise of hate.
00:04:41.840and we're seeing it in province across province across province we're seeing it now in our
00:04:46.880education system with our premier and education minister has put forward with regards to the
00:04:55.200obligations of teachers and school boards educators and school boards and so that's why we're here
00:05:03.600we're trying to connect with all of you to talk about what's happening in our communities and
00:05:09.200what we can do as allies and supporters uh to fight against the hate uh within our communities
00:05:17.840i should have poured a bunch of shots and we could have all done a drinking game that you
00:05:21.760could play along with at home it's one o'clock i'm sure it's you know five o'clock somewhere
00:05:25.120of course actually it's not really five o'clock anywhere it's five o'clock like over the atlantic
00:05:28.640but uh it's six o'clock in the united kingdom right now so there we go the then every time they
00:05:34.080say the word hate you could have just taken a shot and you actually would have been just passed out
00:05:37.920drunk already after that two-minute clip yeah poor sean he says he was doing the drinking game and
00:05:42.880he's already too drunk to continue the show so if the remaining clips don't fire it's because sean
00:05:47.280was doing the drink every time they say hate uh and then we have shawnee paul or chandra lee paul
00:05:55.200who i i don't know the affiliation or title uh who weighed in as well and again talks about
00:05:59.680coordinated hate this is scary i'll be honest with you as a member who is a proud queer individual
00:06:09.200and activist who's been doing this work for days over 30 years now um it is in my experience my
00:06:17.760personal experience the first of this time that i've seen here in canada of this super broadly
00:06:24.720and coordinated hate right across the country of this time.
00:06:33.340We are seeing a set of protests that are all being done simultaneously.
00:06:40.060They're all being set for 9 a.m. in each of their time zones in every single province
00:06:47.920of this country in multiple states of these provinces and it is really scary it is extremely
00:06:56.640similar as to what has been happening in the u.s and we are very very worried about what
00:07:04.400could be coming next um i am zooming in from takaranto uh otherwise known as toronto the
00:07:11.840place in the water where the treaties are standing and uh i'm i'm extremely worried about what's
00:07:16.880and so what what we're seeing is um a a far right extreme response to uh inclusive education
00:07:30.560oh a far right extreme response that is in addition to the coordinated hate
00:07:37.600now let's not mince words here what we're talking about are parental rights the protests have been
00:07:45.280for parents to have more oversight and authority as they've always had and as they're supposed to
00:07:49.840have over their children's education they're not resisting inclusive education they're not
00:07:54.960resisting the fact that trans people are going to be taught in schools that gay people are going to
00:07:59.040be taught in schools that they're going to be gay teachers and trans teachers uh they're resisting
00:08:03.760the i mean look most of the people on this call are teachers and many of them as you can see on
00:08:08.000the zoom call they all have the various pronouns in their bio this is already an inclusive education
00:08:14.000system as evidenced by all of these people on this call who work within the education system.
00:08:20.280That's the part here that I find so baffling is that they've already basically won. But when in
00:08:26.020New Brunswick, the premier says, you know what, if a kid wants to change their gender and pronouns
00:08:30.920at school, maybe we think parents should have a say in that and be able to consent and have to
00:08:35.840consent. And then similar pushes in Saskatchewan and Manitoba, and finally in Ontario, the
00:08:41.520conservative government that conservatism forgot, or that forgot conservatism, I guess, has also
00:08:46.660started talking about this with Doug Ford railing against indoctrination, because it is a popular
00:08:52.340policy. Parents believe they should have autonomy over how their children are raised, that parents
00:08:59.620are the first, best, and primary educators for their children. And it isn't just about a disagreement,
00:09:06.440and, oh, we disagree on this part of it, they actually despise.
00:09:10.860They despise the very people who are raising these issues,
00:09:14.040who are planning to protest on Wednesday.
00:09:34.480The fascists are organizing in the streets.
00:09:36.440I'm a researcher at Carleton and my focus is fascism in Canada and the signs that I've seen that we're rising that this is far more than just like a far-right transphobic protest.
00:09:47.680They are fundamentally racist. They're fundamentally anti-union. They are fundamentally queer and transphobic.
00:09:53.140And it's just a matter of time before they come to us.
00:09:55.940And the only way, the best way that the fascists have been stopped in the last hundred years has been when we unite in massive numbers in the streets.
00:10:04.240they're fascists they're fascists they're racist they're fundamentally transphobic now
00:10:12.260i actually they're fundamentally racist she said now i actually interviewed a couple of the
00:10:17.480fundamentally racist organizers of this protest a couple of weeks ago sean do we have an image
00:10:23.300from that interview oh my goodness look at how fundamentally racist they look that's the
00:10:29.480fundamentally racist Kamil al-Sheikh and the fundamentally racist Bahira Abdul Salam. You can
00:10:36.220see they're just white supremacists, the kind that are Middle Eastern and wear a hijab, that kind of
00:10:41.340white supremacists. You may not be familiar with them, but according to the great union activists,
00:10:46.620these are racist white supremacists because how else could they ever be engaged in the dialogue
00:10:52.400around parental rights? And it was interesting. One of the speakers actually spoke about the need
00:10:57.840to stand up against oppression in the same way that they stand up against, like, anti-Muslim
00:11:04.080oppression. And I'm like, you guys are the ones oppressing the Muslims right now. Because when
00:11:07.740the Muslim families get up and say, ah, you know what, we love tolerance and diversity and all of
00:11:12.140that, but maybe we're not too keen on this gender stuff in schools. Now, all of a sudden, they're
00:11:17.100lumped in. I mean, the Muslim community must be very confused right now. These people that were
00:11:21.640welcomed with open arms by Justin Trudeau seven years ago, and now are being denigrated as, like,
00:11:26.880white supremacists. And they're like, is this like a mistranslation? No, these people are just
00:11:31.380absolute lunatics. That's all that's going on here. And if you look at this, I'll share one
00:11:36.740more clip for you because it explains why they're so scared. I mean, this whole crisis call that
00:11:42.660these union folks had a hundred and some odd people gathering. I mean, when union people
00:11:46.820gather on a weekend, you know, you know, it must be serious business because well, anyway, you get
00:11:51.480the joke. But this is Vicki Smallman, who talks about why it is that they're so worried.
00:11:57.020And the disturbing thing I have to say about all of this is while it's really easy to sort of say,
00:12:02.680well, these are fringe voices, these are, you know, the convoy, you know, writ large, etc.
00:12:09.480All of it is being validated and platformed and echoed by provincial governments and by the
00:12:16.620federal conservative party right which offers a bit of a legitimacy and they
00:12:21.120have decided that it is politically expedient to essentially throw trans
00:12:28.680kids families queer families queer people queer workers kids under the bus
00:12:33.480in order to win votes I mean we see in Manitoba right now actual bus ads from
00:12:40.140conservative candidates because they're in a provincial election using parents
00:12:45.600rights rhetoric as the hook. It's really crappy. Now, I'm not one of these people that believes
00:12:53.700that the popular is always the right. You know, something could be popular and wrong. Vaccine
00:12:58.800mandates are a great example of that. But there's a little bit of an interesting takeaway in what
00:13:03.140she's saying, which is that they're concerned by how many people disagree with them. They're
00:13:08.200concerned by how many people are taking up the mantle of parental rights. They're concerned about
00:13:13.780how common these views are that they're railing against and going to the walls for. And if you
00:13:19.060look at some of the rhetoric that you've been getting from the NDP, in all honesty, it's
00:13:22.860actually quite baffling. These people, the hill they're prepared to die on is sex changes for
00:13:27.940children, which is why the rhetoric against the Conservative Convention and the policy resolution
00:13:32.740opposing gender affirming care, as they call it for children, was so unhinged. And in this particular
00:13:38.500case, we're not even talking about anything that is out of the norm of what parents expect. And
00:13:44.700it's not just conservatives, far rights, white supremacists, racists. It's just normal parents
00:13:49.620that want to have some level of oversight on what their children are being taught and more
00:13:53.840importantly, how it's being taught. And when you see a group that includes a lot of teachers
00:13:59.120gathering together and they're so offended, so offended that parents may want to exercise more
00:14:07.040authority over educating than they do, that should be a huge red flag. Why do these people think they
00:14:13.300deserve that much power over what happens with your kids in the classroom? And that I think is
00:14:19.280the problem here. Now, one thing I'll point out just on a lighter note before we go to our next
00:14:23.880guest here, our first guest, I guess, is also our next guest, is that all, I mean, this is, I'm just,
00:14:29.500this is indulgent on my part, so you'll have to bear with me, but we've all had to deal with the
00:14:33.980land acknowledgements, which are supposed to be a part of Truth and Reconciliation. At union events,
00:14:38.900I learned that the land acknowledgement is like half of the meeting. Take a look.
00:14:43.060So with that, I'm going to go to the land acknowledgement, and then I will pass it back
00:14:50.400so we can start our conversations. Today, because we are joining this meeting from places across
00:14:57.760indigenous territory. I'd like to begin this acknowledgement by honoring the
00:15:02.840lands each of us are on, which has been the site of human activity since time
00:17:07.040that was the longest land acknowledgement i've ever i mean the land acknowledgement lasted longer than
00:17:12.800confederation has basically up to that point uh which is uh particularly odd because i kind of
00:17:17.520of thought at virtual events, you didn't have to do the land acknowledgement because you're all
00:17:20.840gathered. But the loophole there to the Ontario Federation of Labour is everyone has to do their
00:17:25.120own land acknowledgement in the comment section. So for like the next, if you watch the video for
00:17:29.220the next half hour, the chat is just like popping up with everyone's land acknowledgement when
00:17:33.700they've already like moved on like seven topics by then. So the reason I poke fun of those because
00:17:38.840they're all just theatrical. I mean, they all cloak themselves in this language that has nothing
00:17:44.000to do with any real problems that exist in the world. And even Indigenous people are often the
00:17:49.440ones who call these things empty words more than anything else. But to talk about the more serious
00:17:55.320point here is that we have parents that are coming together and people in this country from all walks
00:18:01.100of life, all backgrounds, faith groups, in many cases, political groups. And to these union
00:18:06.500activist. It's just a far right, convoy 2.0, white supremacist. And at its core, what is it that is
00:18:14.640being debated? I'm not saying there aren't different belief systems that exist and different goals and
00:18:20.000all of that. But for the most part, the call is we want the schools to back off on the aggressive
00:18:26.660teaching of gender ideology in classes. We want this to be something where parents have the right
00:18:31.540to tell kids these are contentious issues. There is debate in the medical community, debate in
00:18:36.220academia, debate in the law. So the idea that teachers should be able to just take this very
00:18:41.960uber-progressive pro-gender ideology position and teach it in schools without parents having a say
00:18:49.220is fundamentally wrong. That is what's being discussed here. It's not anti-inclusion. It's
00:18:54.900pro-parental rights. It's that simple. Jack Fonseca is the political operations director for
00:19:00.440the Campaign Life Coalition, which has been a supporter of this big event coming up. And he
00:19:05.380joins me now. Jack, good to talk to you. Thanks for coming on today. You're welcome. Thanks for
00:19:09.880having me on. Just to back up here for a moment, I mentioned earlier in passing the Conservative
00:19:14.860Convention, which I timed very well with this march we have coming up. And a lot of the response
00:19:20.740we saw to those anti-gender ideology motions being passed were just hysterical from people.
00:19:28.120Yeah, it was, you know, it came from the left, from the far left, the media and some LGBTQ2S plus activists.
00:19:38.400But essentially, what those two motions consisted of that passed or those two policy resolutions, I should say,
00:19:45.640which are now official Conservative Party policy and passed by a very large majority,
00:19:50.000was that the first one was that basically that the Conservative Party opposes sex changes for
00:19:58.780children under the age of 18, that we oppose chemical or surgical mutilation of children
00:20:07.540under the age of 18. And that's just common sense. I mean, kids under 18 can't get a tattoo without
00:20:12.600the consent of their parents. They can't drive. They can't have sex. They can't get married.
00:20:17.840You know, so all of this makes sense. Why it would be controversial to anybody to say that a child whose brain, the prefrontal cortex that's responsible for making decisions, which doesn't develop until the early 20s for human beings,
00:20:36.280um why they should be allowed to to make a decision to cut off uh perfectly healthy body
00:20:43.440parts or to take puberty puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones that are have irreversible
00:20:49.060damaging effects to the body it's crazy it's crazy that anyone would say yeah yeah that should be
00:20:53.940totally permitted and then the other uh oh sorry go ahead no i was just going to add to that point
00:20:59.340and and we have people that are part of this growing and it's quite a heartbreaking group
00:21:03.360called detransitioners, people that have gone through this because they had enthusiastic
00:21:07.760doctors or parents when they were children and have lived to regret it because this thing that
00:21:12.120was driving it was a sense they outgrew when they did reach maturity. Yeah, absolutely. And,
00:21:18.240you know, the science has always backed that up. Even the American Psychiatric Association in the
00:21:23.900Diagnostics and Statistics Manual admits that if children are just left alone, by the time they
00:21:32.060enter into adolescence, they will have 88% of, I believe it was 88% of boys or 88% of girls and
00:21:40.640up to 95% of boys will no longer persist in the belief or the concern that they're of the opposite
00:21:48.920sex, that they will outgrow that sexual confusion. And that's if we just leave them alone. And that's
00:21:54.760from the American Psychiatric Association. So this is fact. This is real science. And what
00:22:01.500the gender activists, the transgender activists are throwing at our children, indoctrinating kids
00:22:07.180in the schools, right in the classroom, as young as kindergarten, five years old. It's absolutely
00:22:12.360criminal. It is child abuse, telling them that they might be the opposite sex, that they might
00:22:17.720be trapped in the wrong body, and that they need medical or surgical interventions to be fully
00:22:26.820human or to be fully who they are that is just child abuse it's crazy to fast forward to the
00:22:33.860march this week you have communities across the country it started with a couple of muslim
00:22:38.880organizers but they were very clear they wanted evangelicals and catholics and atheists and jews
00:22:44.800and anyone that believes in this core message here you know i think for me at its core is that these
00:22:50.620are very live issues the fact that it was being debated at the conservative convention the fact
00:22:54.940that there is debate in the medical community, suggests that we're not at the point where we have
00:22:58.880this universally accepted approach to this issue that can be taught to children in the same way
00:23:04.700that, you know, one plus one equals two, or the alphabet starts with A and goes to Z can be,
00:23:09.820right? Yeah, that's right. It's, and this, you know, the fact that there, that this march is
00:23:16.280happening with close to 100 locations, perhaps it's surpassed 100 locations by now in, I believe
00:23:22.980it's all of the provinces and one of the territories. And this is going to be huge
00:23:28.280across the country. It demonstrates that no, the average Canadian and especially parents
00:23:33.100don't agree. The consensus is not settled by any means. And in fact, it's rejected. The
00:23:39.380notion that children can declare themselves to be the opposite sex, opposite from their
00:23:45.360biological reality, it is rejected by parents. And that's going to be borne out in this protest
00:24:16.400why should we not be calling them out?
00:24:20.120And why are more people not calling them out for believing that they should be the ones that make these decisions?
00:24:25.400Because that's really what they're saying. They're saying they know better than parents.
00:24:28.600Yeah. Yeah. You know, schools have become toxic.
00:24:31.020The truth is the reality of the matter is that our public education system, both public schools and Catholic schools, too, that are government run have become indoctrination centers.
00:24:40.340They're brainwashing centers. They're run by Marxists.
00:24:43.680Most of these, you know, there are some good teachers.
00:24:45.620I know I talk to them privately, the minority of good teachers who don't agree with what's being with the brainwashing that's happening in the schools and they feel alone and they feel, gosh, if I speak out against this anti-scientific nonsense, I'm going to be fired.
00:25:01.900I'm going to be disciplined. But the problem is that the Marxists who run the colleges that teach the teachers, they are Marxists.
00:25:10.240They want to fundamentally, they want to undermine Western society, which is built on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and they even want to undermine science and the belief in truth and reality because it serves the Marxist agenda.
00:25:29.100And unfortunately, you've got young teachers now, the ones who get taught at these teachers' colleges are indoctrinated with this ideology, this transgender and gender fluidity, all of this ideology.
00:25:42.540They're brainwashed to believe that it's human rights, that they're fighting for civil rights somehow if they're teaching this in the classroom and hiding it from parents.
00:25:51.000if they're actually helping children to impersonate the opposite sex and use opposite sex names and hide it from the parents,
00:25:58.460these teachers are being taught that they're doing something good, that they're actually being good people and good teachers.
00:26:06.200And the opposite is true, that what they're doing is they're participating in child abuse.
00:26:10.460And the reality is, if you look at what transitioning at school leads to, where, you know, teachers are saying,
00:26:17.460yeah, okay, we'll hide it from the parents. We'll let Johnny call himself Susie at school
00:26:24.640and live a double life that's separate to the life that he lives at home. What they're doing
00:26:30.460is putting children on the path to puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and for many of
00:26:35.800them, gender mutilation surgery, the amputation of perfectly healthy body parts. And I don't want
00:26:42.100to skip over the dangers and harms of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones. These are not
00:26:46.620harmless, you know, like taking an Advil. Puberty blockers are extremely dangerous.
00:26:52.180They're very harmful. They make bones brittle. They bring on osteoporosis.
00:26:57.060They stunt the growth of children. There's many, many studies that have shown that they produce
00:27:05.360infertility, so sterilization. Can a child at 10 or 11 or 12 years old when puberty blockers are
00:27:11.320typically given can they truly understand the decision to become permanently sterile to never
00:27:16.440be able to have children of course not of course not and um you know dr john whitehall a professor
00:27:23.560in pediatrics at western sydney university in australia um he he he has cited from his research
00:27:31.240that while on puberty blockers quote the volume of the brain decreases at 10 times faster than
00:27:37.880the aging process end quote so you think about that we're putting kids on puberty blockers
00:27:43.800which causes the volume of their brains to decrease 10 times faster than the natural aging
00:27:49.800process and then the next step is uh is um hormone therapy cross-sex hormones and you know that is
00:27:58.440linked to uh all kinds of cancers um you know cancer of the breast prostate um ovaries uh the
00:28:05.480the vagina, cardiovascular problems, you know, this is, it's really butchery of children. This
00:28:14.040is child abuse. It's inhuman. And this is why parents are coming out of the woodwork and joining
00:28:20.000this Million March for Children to protest this form of child abuse that is happening right in
00:28:27.540our schools. And which one are you, which one are you going to be at, Jack? I think I'm going to be
00:28:33.420at the possibly the Kitchener one. Okay, wonderful. Well, they're all over the place. I was seeing
00:28:39.260this morning on the website, I was looking at the list of them. And I think like, as I refreshed the
00:28:44.040page 10 minutes later, they had added another one or two of these. So it's going to be large.
00:28:48.060I know they were using the term million. I don't know if it's going to be a million people. But
00:28:50.940certainly, if you look at the polling that's been done on this, it's a majority of parents that I
00:28:55.580think fundamentally align with the policy we're seeing in New Brunswick that we're hearing discussed
00:29:00.300in Ontario that Manitoba and Saskatchewan are talking about. So definitely this is not the
00:29:05.340fringe minority, as Justin Trudeau and some of those union folks would have said. Jack Fonseca
00:29:11.100is the political operations director with the Campaign Life Coalition. Good to talk to you,
00:29:15.420Jack. Thanks for coming on today. Thanks very much for having me. All right. We'll have a little
00:29:19.880bit more on this tomorrow and a bit of a postmortem on Wednesday. Some of the marches are going to be
00:29:25.540going probably still while we're on air on Wednesday. So we'll try to get some of the early
00:29:30.080footage and talk about that. I won't be out there because I have to be back at the show. So I won't
00:29:35.260be covering it on the ground. I do want to turn to bread though. I was trying to think of like a
00:29:40.020witty transition. Well, transition. There we go. We'll transition to bread. There we go. It wasn't
00:29:45.680like a segue about yeast or dough or anything like that. I was trying to come up with like a
00:29:48.980clever one, but I couldn't in the interim. But we will talk about the grocery crisis. Now you
00:29:55.080already know as Canadians that there is a crisis at the grocery stores. You go like we all do. You
00:30:00.700see the prices on the shelves. You know how they've been going up and up and up. And the government
00:30:05.480has seen its poll numbers go down, down, down. So the result is simply that, oh, well, we have to
00:30:13.120find a new bogeyman. So the federal government did the big tough thing. They've summoned all of the
00:30:18.120grocery executives to Ottawa for a finger wagging, which is taking place right now, believe it or not,
00:30:23.820about 30 minutes ago. They all started walking in and the media was trying to get them. And
00:30:29.080oddly, the grocery companies were doing this all wrong. They should have been coming out and
00:30:34.200chatting with reporters and saying, yeah, this is terrible. We hate this. You should know about all
00:30:38.580the costs we have to deal with and the carbon tax. But instead, one guy, the head of Costco says no
00:30:44.480comment. Galen Weston of Loblaw just walks by silently. There was a guy from Metro that stopped
00:30:51.100and chatted for a little bit and just said, oh, I'm looking forward to a good meeting and an
00:30:54.380exchange of ideas. The head of Sobeys, I don't think said anything. So these people are letting
00:30:59.300themselves be portrayed as the villains here, which is what the government wants. This is what
00:31:04.280Justin Trudeau said when he announced this grand summons. It's not okay that our biggest grocery
00:31:12.120stores are making record profits while Canadians are struggling to put food on the table.
00:31:18.280So Minister Champagne will be calling on the heads of large grocers to come to Ottawa
00:31:23.040with a plan to address the rising cost of food.
00:31:27.640And we expect to hear from them by Thanksgiving on what their plan is to stabilize prices.
00:31:46.180If their plan doesn't provide real relief for the middle class and people working hard to join it, then we will take further action and we are not ruling anything out, including tax measures.
00:35:27.780then it's the stores themselves that have to keep the lights on, and quite often that's using
00:35:31.980natural gas. And so it's very clear that the carbon tax, Trudeau's carbon tax, makes stuff
00:35:38.680cost more, including groceries. And to hear him float this idea of a tax measure is just
00:35:45.220mind-boggling because taxes make things cost more. And this reminds me, that was that old
00:35:52.160Reagan quote remember what is it if it moves tax it if it stops moving regulate it like if it stops
00:35:58.540moving subsidize it and I think if it keeps moving regulate exactly like there are some ideological
00:36:04.800politicians that just think more government is the answer and in this case it just certainly is not
00:36:11.020yeah and look I'm not going to look at Galen Weston and say that he is lily white in this
00:36:15.820I mean a lot of corporate executives have to be very ruthless and they are making a lot of money
00:36:20.400on this, but they're also doing what the system requires and allows, which is to make money. And
00:36:25.660the profits have not actually increased as much as the government likes to claim that it is,
00:36:31.340because the reality is it's their costs as well that are increasing. They're dealing with any
00:36:35.900inflationary pressures that exist outside of the grocery stores. It's not like everything has
00:36:41.260stayed the same and then boom, the retail cost has been jacked up because of inflation.
00:36:45.400Exactly. There's no magical supplier that these people are using. We all get them from the same sources and from the same places. They don't have an inflation free store that these planners and these folks get to go to. And yeah, think about it. What we just watched was a handful of people go into a building. Are we really to believe that it's these handful of people that are maniacally making food cost more? Are we older than 12 years old?
00:37:13.280We all know how these systems work, or at least we should. And the idea that we have a government now that's been in power for eight years, and by the way, they've got ministers, they've got deputy ministers, they've got staff who are supposed to know the basic economics of this stuff.
00:37:30.300for them to turn around and just use this as a scapegoat when it's they who are largely causing
00:37:36.320this problem also due to inflation because they've been printing money. Remember, the Trudeau
00:37:41.860government printed $300 billion out of thin air. That is going to make inflation much, much worse,
00:37:49.600which of course increases the cost of food. And so we can all see them. We should all know this.
00:37:55.320It reminds me of Dr. Thomas Sowell, who, by the way, is still with us. He's 93, Andrew, and just put out his latest book. He recommends asking three questions of a politician or bureaucrat who comes up with a great new idea, like a grocery tax or regulating the price of groceries.
00:38:15.080He says you should ask three questions. You should ask at what cost, compared to what, and what evidence do you have? This fails on all three of those questions.
00:38:27.380we've heard some ridiculous ideas that are likely to be bandied about by the government
00:38:33.140because they're going to grocery stores and saying you need to come up with a solution by
00:38:36.900thanksgiving so they should basically just announce a sale on turkeys and say that's our
00:38:41.320plan we've marked down turkeys 20 so canadians can have their thanksgiving dinner and then tell
00:38:46.240the government to a pound salt i mean a pound of salt might be too expensive now but the thing that
00:38:51.040i would point out is that there are going to be ridiculous ideas like jagmeet singh's whole thing
00:39:21.700I've heard that language and it's scary.
00:39:25.140It's scary. They shouldn't even be thinking about those sorts of things. Ask anyone who lived in the Soviet Union or in one of those Eastern Bloc countries what it's like to line up for onions and bread.
00:39:38.280I have a friend who lived in the Soviet Union, and they used to take a train for nine hours in one direction with these large oilcloth sacks on their backs, Andrew, to gather sausages because they were so salty and so full of spices that they wouldn't have to be refrigerated.
00:40:02.240And this is because they were controlling the price of food.
00:40:05.880We mustn't do this. Just to give people an example, think of what the government controls in your life right now. The healthcare system, the passport office, things called Service Canada, etc. Do you get awesome prices and great service at those places? No?
00:40:22.660Well, you probably don't want them controlling the cost and price of your food and the stores
00:40:28.380where you can buy your food. That's a really bad idea. And a grocery tax is a super bad idea.
00:40:36.200What needs to happen here is the government needs to climb down. They need to realize,
00:40:41.820okay, we had the best of intentions to help the environment or give them whatever out they need,
00:40:46.660but it isn't working. We realize now, we didn't mean to, we realize now we're making food costs
00:40:52.980go up. So we're going to scrap these carbon taxes and use technology to help clean the air
00:40:58.160and help the environment. That's what needs to happen here. Egos need to be checked and they
00:41:03.120need to make a better decision. We've spoken about the carbon tax, which is obviously a big
00:41:07.900one. The other one that no political party in Canada will touch is supply management, which
00:41:12.340I know tends to anger my rural Ontario audience, but I'm sorry, generally speaking, no one outside
00:41:18.560of dairy farmers supports supply management. Canadians have to pay for it. It is something
00:41:23.400that the government would have to deal with the transition of pretty significantly. You have to
00:41:28.200buy back a quota that farmers have in good faith purchased and spent a lot of money on. But also
00:41:34.140So this is driving up the cost very much in a very easily calculated way of milk, of eggs,