Juno News - January 26, 2021


Unmasking the Great Reset


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29 minutes

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179.5417

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5,320

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339

Misogynist Sentences

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:06.700 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:12.720 Coming up, the Liberals embrace the Great Reset they told us was a conspiracy theory,
00:00:17.420 facts and COVID coverage, and Elections Canada's blow against press freedom.
00:00:24.120 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.
00:00:30.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:33.480 This is the Andrew Lawton Show on True North.
00:00:35.720 We are hitting the reset on another episode of the program.
00:00:39.480 Perhaps it will even be a great reset.
00:00:42.560 Who the heck knows?
00:00:44.460 In any case, my thanks to you all.
00:00:46.840 This is a big week if you are paying attention to the world that the global elites are trying to create for you
00:00:52.880 because this is the virtual Davos Agenda Summit put on by the World Economic Forum.
00:00:59.180 Normally, all of the elites and world leaders would be hobnobbing in the Swiss Alps,
00:01:03.860 but right now they have to slum it by doing it on Zoom because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:01:09.860 But nevertheless, the Davos Agenda this week aims to put forward the Great Reset Initiative.
00:01:16.160 It is, according to the World Economic Forum,
00:01:18.560 the official launch of this Great Reset Initiative that purports to create a new form of capitalism
00:01:25.920 and take advantage of the fact that the pandemic has just devastated the economy
00:01:30.860 to rebuild the world in the image that people like Klaus Schwab and the UN
00:01:35.780 and all of these other organizations and individuals tend to want,
00:01:39.480 a world that they have not yet succeeded at putting into place without the pandemic.
00:01:43.940 The problem is that people on the left insist that it is a conspiracy theory to talk about the Great Reset,
00:01:50.800 even though it's the name of a book and it has its own website
00:01:54.540 and the World Economic Forum is entirely proud of the Great Reset Initiative.
00:01:59.700 This is what came up when Justin Trudeau indicated that he wanted to partake in a little bit of a reset.
00:02:05.540 Remember this?
00:02:06.380 This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset.
00:02:09.820 This is our chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts to reimagine economic systems
00:02:15.520 that actually address global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality, and climate change.
00:02:21.640 And then, of course, people like Conservative MP Pierre Polyev rightfully draw attention to it,
00:02:26.780 point out the similarities between Trudeau's reset rhetoric and Klaus Schwab's reset rhetoric,
00:02:31.620 and then Trudeau accuses them of peddling conspiracy theories.
00:02:35.880 The difficult moments we're in, it's nice to be able to try and find someone to blame,
00:02:41.320 something to point to, something to get mad at.
00:02:43.740 I think we're seeing a lot of people fall prey to disinformation,
00:02:47.380 and if Conservative MPs and others want to start talking about conspiracy theories,
00:02:53.640 well, that's their choice.
00:02:55.200 Well, if that's the case, the conspiracy has certainly thickened,
00:02:58.680 because this week, Chrystia Freeland and Patti Haidu are among the vaunted speakers
00:03:03.660 of the World Economic Forum's Davos agenda.
00:03:06.860 Yes, the two Canadian cabinet ministers are actually speaking part of this week of events
00:03:11.260 that aims to launch the Great Reset Initiative.
00:03:14.600 Chrystia Freeland is speaking about stakeholder capitalism,
00:03:17.860 and, of course, Patti Haidu is speaking about restoring cross-border mobility.
00:03:21.700 This is the woman who said that border closures are racist and don't work,
00:03:25.740 and then went all in on closing the Canadian border,
00:03:28.400 which will have been closed for coming up on a year quite soon,
00:03:31.340 and then she's the one that they want to speak about reopening the world,
00:03:35.260 which I'll just let you take from that what you may.
00:03:37.700 But the problem is, while everyone who's everyone is speaking at the Davos agenda this week,
00:03:42.240 the keynote speaker, the person who kicked things off,
00:03:45.200 was none other than Chairman Xi.
00:03:47.280 Yes, Xi Jinping spoke and actually tried to double down on the globalization and globalism
00:03:54.520 that so many people are critical of in the World Economic Forum's mandate,
00:03:58.980 and he actually took aim at the arrogant isolationism.
00:04:02.140 He didn't call out Donald Trump by name, but you could tell it was an attack on Trump,
00:04:06.320 and said that we need to go down even further the road of multilateralism
00:04:11.180 and globalization and the UN-led international order,
00:04:16.040 and he called for adoption of the UN Agenda 2030 and other things like this.
00:04:21.540 And if you watch the whole speech,
00:04:23.180 it's not something that really aligns with the China that we all know.
00:04:28.740 But there's something very revealing in this.
00:04:31.560 China knows it's running the world right now.
00:04:34.900 China knows that this world order, which is not a conspiratorial term,
00:04:38.380 that's actually what it is here,
00:04:39.860 is working to its benefit.
00:04:41.420 The liberal capitalist free market world order that was created by Western governments
00:04:46.360 is something that China has been able to manipulate and maneuver its way
00:04:49.720 into a great deal of success with.
00:04:52.220 So why would China want to mess with it?
00:04:54.580 China's investing right now about a trillion dollars
00:04:57.080 in the so-called Belt and Road Initiative,
00:04:59.760 which is actually putting Chinese money at the forefront of development
00:05:03.420 in I think like close to 100 countries.
00:05:05.880 It is China's world, and we are just tenants in it right now.
00:05:11.280 So when Klaus Schwab is heaping praise on Chairman Xi,
00:05:15.180 and Chairman Xi is talking about the need to go further down this road
00:05:18.160 of international multilateralism,
00:05:20.180 and then the Secretary General of the UN comes on a couple hours later,
00:05:23.760 Antonio Guterres, and says the same thing.
00:05:26.120 And then later on in the week,
00:05:27.340 we've got Patti Hajdu and Chrystia Freeland that are all a part of this.
00:05:30.420 How are Canadians supposed to stand for being accused of spreading conspiracy theories
00:05:35.240 to talk about the fact that there are people that are trying to manipulate the world
00:05:39.180 into this form of a reset?
00:05:43.220 Hidden in plain sight does not even begin to describe this.
00:05:46.960 This thing that is actually a source of pride for some of these international elites
00:05:51.040 that we are being told we're not allowed to even talk about, let alone call out.
00:05:54.980 Now, this is not just some shadowy cabal of people that are sitting in some cave
00:06:00.080 in the Swiss Alps deciding how the world is supposed to be structured.
00:06:03.820 These are people who actually have leadership positions in countries around the world,
00:06:08.160 like, for example, Chrystia Freeland and Patti Hajdu,
00:06:11.160 who are on the front lines of the government's response to COVID-19
00:06:15.500 and any number of other areas,
00:06:17.120 and these are the folks that they're hobnobbing with.
00:06:19.760 And Chrystia Freeland knows these people very well.
00:06:22.040 One of her great claims to fame before she entered politics
00:06:24.780 was literally writing the book on the Davos elites,
00:06:27.940 immersing herself in this world.
00:06:30.700 And it's hard to imagine, looking back,
00:06:32.800 that this was done with a journalistic eye
00:06:34.780 when now she is one of the very people
00:06:37.360 that she was writing about in her seminal work.
00:06:41.160 And again, I mean, the topics that Hajdu and Freeland were talking about
00:06:44.740 were relatively banal.
00:06:46.000 I mean, stakeholder capitalism, whoop-dee-doo,
00:06:48.360 and cross-border mobility,
00:06:49.520 which is basically just saying,
00:06:50.760 yes, we want to get the world moving again.
00:06:52.720 I mean, there's nothing controversial on the surface about those.
00:06:56.280 But it's a part of them inserting themselves into this agenda.
00:06:59.920 It's literally called the Davos agenda.
00:07:02.280 Inserting themselves into this agenda
00:07:04.060 that doesn't actually care about the independence of nations,
00:07:07.500 that actually rebukes it.
00:07:09.560 The United Kingdom, by leaving the European Union,
00:07:12.900 actually struck a blow against this narrative that is unfolding,
00:07:16.900 a world beyond and moving past nation-states,
00:07:20.980 a world in which every country's interests have to be subservient to the global order,
00:07:25.200 to the global interests.
00:07:26.720 And it's not that we're heading towards one world government.
00:07:29.420 It's that individual countries are increasingly interested in surrendering their own sovereignty
00:07:34.880 to just do whatever the UN wants.
00:07:36.900 And Justin Trudeau has these idealistic delusions,
00:07:40.240 these delusions that, by the way, were disproven,
00:07:43.000 going as far back as like Woodrow Wilson in the early parts of the 20th century.
00:07:47.760 And Justin Trudeau wants to just completely outsource all decision-making to the UN,
00:07:52.380 to the World Health Organization.
00:07:53.940 So no wonder Chairman Xi is happy with the world order,
00:07:58.020 because the world order is the one that gave the WHO
00:08:00.660 that refused to actually look at China's role in unleashing the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:08:06.340 It's the world order that's allowing China to become such a powerhouse.
00:08:10.220 The world order that is happy when Chairman Xi gets up there
00:08:13.160 and talks about the Paris climate agreements,
00:08:15.360 while on the other hand, actually committing genocide against Uyghur minorities,
00:08:20.480 and having labor camps and state executions.
00:08:23.160 That Chairman Xi was not criticized.
00:08:26.240 But oh no, no, no, to Klaus Schwab, it's all great,
00:08:28.260 because yeah, he shares our goals of a world that's moving forward,
00:08:31.620 leaping into progress, because if there is a one-world government,
00:08:34.860 or even a de facto one-world government,
00:08:36.960 it's going to be China that's at the helm of that.
00:08:40.300 We are going to be covering this more and more.
00:08:43.520 In fact, in May, the World Economic Forum is planning to have an in-person summit in Singapore,
00:08:48.740 which they normally have, again, this week in Davos,
00:08:51.120 but everything's a little bit wacky this year.
00:08:53.060 And I actually hope to be there covering this,
00:08:54.980 because we know that a lot of the benefits to the world leaders that go to these things
00:08:59.040 are not the official sessions, but all the meetings that take place away from the cameras.
00:09:03.900 And that's what we aim to see.
00:09:05.240 But we're getting a little bit of a taste of it
00:09:07.220 by watching the Zoom version of the Davos agenda this week,
00:09:10.400 the agenda that is being written for you under the auspices of a Great Reset.
00:09:15.240 But oh no, it's just a conspiracy.
00:09:17.100 We'll be back in a couple of moments with more of The Andrew Lawton Show here on True North.
00:09:23.060 You're tuned in to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:09:26.280 Welcome back to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:09:28.580 I want to talk about a story that actually emerged in my neck of the woods down in southwestern Ontario
00:09:33.240 over the weekend that has become a national story.
00:09:36.480 It involves one of the youngest COVID-19 deaths in the country,
00:09:40.600 the death of a young man, 19, named Yassine Dubey,
00:09:44.120 who was a contract cleaner at a long-term care home near London.
00:09:48.000 Now, I say a COVID-19 death.
00:09:50.000 It's not actually known how Yassine Dubey died.
00:09:53.280 And in fact, according to the local health officials,
00:09:56.080 it will never truly be known.
00:09:57.980 There was no autopsy.
00:09:59.140 All they know is that four weeks ago, he contracted COVID-19,
00:10:03.440 recovered from it, but he's still classed as a COVID death
00:10:06.840 because COVID-19 was in his chart, so to speak.
00:10:11.000 Now, this is tragic no matter what.
00:10:13.340 And I actually don't like talking about this
00:10:15.280 because I don't like that this has to be put through a political lens.
00:10:19.040 But I also was seeing how this man's death was being taken
00:10:22.160 and made into a political statement by so many people.
00:10:26.360 And I had to push back against it.
00:10:28.980 The fact is, we don't know how he died.
00:10:31.600 We never will know how he died,
00:10:33.240 given the way they report these things
00:10:34.780 and what the health unit has said.
00:10:36.540 But this is how it was reported.
00:10:38.120 Just take a look at the beginning of this clip from CTV London.
00:10:41.440 Yassine Taub is the first person under 20 in Ontario to die from COVID-19.
00:10:47.800 The 19-year-old passed away Thursday in South London.
00:10:51.660 And of course, that old line about how a lie has gone around the world
00:10:54.820 before the truth has put its pants on is very much the case.
00:10:58.000 I'm going to go rapid fire here.
00:10:59.780 Catherine McKenna says,
00:11:00.960 very sad to hear about Yassine DeBay,
00:11:02.720 a frontline LTC worker who passed due to COVID.
00:11:07.260 Another Liberal MP, Sven Spengerman, says,
00:11:10.200 my deepest condolences to the family and loved ones of Yassine DeBay.
00:11:13.760 He passed away on Thursday from COVID-19.
00:11:17.700 Andre Picard, very well-known and very well-respected health columnist
00:11:21.440 for the Globe and Mail, said Yassine DeBay died of COVID-19.
00:11:27.160 A CBC headline,
00:11:28.700 Ontario teen who died of COVID-19 was refugee
00:11:31.680 who worked as a long-term care home cleaner.
00:11:34.840 Unifor says he died of COVID-19.
00:11:37.900 A London city councillor says it was actually anti-mask protesters
00:11:41.520 that were to blame.
00:11:42.840 And an Ontario MPP by the name of Rima Burns McGowan
00:11:46.000 says that this is actually Doug Ford's fault.
00:11:48.360 Doug Ford and the long-term care minister, Merrilee Fullerton,
00:11:51.200 are personally responsible for killing this young man,
00:11:54.460 even though no one knows how he died and there was no autopsy.
00:11:57.600 And he was past the point of being infectious.
00:12:00.040 And it's not clear whether he was in hospital
00:12:02.020 for any prolonged period of time with COVID-19.
00:12:05.400 Now, as I said on Twitter,
00:12:06.820 none of this takes away from the tragedy of a 19-year-old dying.
00:12:10.200 It's far too young.
00:12:11.600 But facts still matter.
00:12:13.780 And this man's being made into a martyr for people
00:12:17.380 that have an axe to grind on refugee politics,
00:12:19.840 on long-term care,
00:12:21.260 people that want to instill a great deal of fear in the population
00:12:23.820 about how COVID-19 can affect anyone and everyone
00:12:26.500 and your 19-year-olds aren't safe
00:12:28.260 and we got to keep kids out of classrooms.
00:12:30.120 When in actuality, this is a tragedy,
00:12:32.660 but it is not a tragedy that speaks to a broader narrative
00:12:35.920 unless people make it speak to a broader narrative.
00:12:39.260 Now, Yassine's family, who again has suffered a terrible loss here,
00:12:43.680 has said that a coroner confirmed from a blood test
00:12:47.120 that he died of COVID-19.
00:12:49.360 Now, I don't know how that works out.
00:12:50.560 And again, I have no reason to distrust the family.
00:12:53.180 There is still the comment from the local health unit,
00:12:55.940 the official that said there is basically no answer
00:12:59.580 that can be given to a lot of these questions.
00:13:01.880 But the whole point is,
00:13:03.980 even with this,
00:13:05.560 at the time that all of these people were saying
00:13:08.180 what they were saying,
00:13:09.040 when Catherine McKenna was saying died of COVID,
00:13:11.740 Andre Picard,
00:13:12.500 when all of these people were misplacing
00:13:14.660 those very significant prepositions,
00:13:16.560 it simply wasn't known.
00:13:19.040 And in many cases, it still isn't known,
00:13:21.300 which is why the data collection issue here
00:13:23.280 is such an important one that needs to be rectified.
00:13:26.140 We've got to take a break.
00:13:27.060 We'll be back with more of The Andrew Lawton Show
00:13:28.820 in just a moment.
00:13:29.660 Stay tuned.
00:13:32.180 You're tuned in to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:13:34.380 Welcome back to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:13:38.940 We know that Justin Trudeau's government
00:13:40.560 loves to pontificate on the importance
00:13:43.300 of press freedom and free speech.
00:13:45.320 They host these big, fancy conferences
00:13:48.020 where they promote the virtues of free speech
00:13:50.460 and say that Canada is a beacon of hope
00:13:52.820 on press freedom.
00:13:53.800 Well, a journalist is being charged
00:13:56.820 for writing a book about Justin Trudeau.
00:14:00.160 You may have heard this story right now.
00:14:01.720 The rebel commander himself and author of The Lebranos,
00:14:05.020 Ezra Levant, posted a fantastic video
00:14:07.340 not that long ago of his interrogation
00:14:09.760 by two investigators with the Commissioner
00:14:12.080 of Canada Elections.
00:14:13.380 It appears that investigation has come to an end
00:14:15.780 and Ezra owes the government $3,000
00:14:18.360 for the crime of writing a book.
00:14:21.460 Ezra joins me on the line.
00:14:23.440 Ezra, good to talk to you again.
00:14:24.560 Thanks for coming on today.
00:14:25.980 Oh, my pleasure.
00:14:26.720 Thanks for having me.
00:14:27.960 So $3,000.
00:14:29.000 This is the going rate apparently for writing a book
00:14:31.800 that criticizes Justin Trudeau during an election.
00:14:34.820 Yeah, they say it's a violation of the Canada Elections Act.
00:14:38.900 They say that my book, because, and by the way,
00:14:41.720 they spent a lot of time going through this part
00:14:43.960 in their violation notice to me.
00:14:46.620 They say that because I compare the Liberals
00:14:50.520 to the Sopranos, remember the title of my book
00:14:53.700 was The Libranos.
00:14:55.400 So they really go on at length about how that's mean,
00:14:58.800 how that compares the Liberals
00:15:00.440 to a corrupt group of lawbreakers.
00:15:03.180 And I'm thinking, yeah, yeah.
00:15:05.020 Anyways, they say because it's mean,
00:15:07.300 that is tantamount to a campaign ad.
00:15:11.180 And because we sold so many books during the election,
00:15:14.620 that's an illegal campaign activity.
00:15:16.820 Except for two things.
00:15:18.160 First of all, Section 2 of that same Canada Elections Act
00:15:23.520 specifically exempts books and the promotion of books
00:15:28.900 as long as they're sold at a reasonable price.
00:15:31.620 And I think my book was sold for $15,
00:15:33.800 which was probably a little bit high, in fact.
00:15:36.440 And it applies to the promotion of books, too.
00:15:40.260 So we had billboards and lawn signs and videos
00:15:44.240 and internet ads.
00:15:45.800 We had about five different ways.
00:15:47.080 And they all used that language, the Libranos.
00:15:50.120 So it's exempt.
00:15:51.940 Section 2 of the Act says it's exempt.
00:15:54.080 Even if Section 2 of the Act didn't say so,
00:15:57.000 we have centuries of common law
00:15:59.420 and our chart of rights and our Bill of Rights,
00:16:01.540 which protects political speech, freedom of the press.
00:16:04.680 So there's no way that my book is illegal.
00:16:07.360 We don't have illegal books in Canada.
00:16:10.200 Let me throw one last thing at you, Andrew.
00:16:13.120 There were 23 other books published at the same time
00:16:17.980 in the 2019 election about Justin Trudeau.
00:16:21.080 So mine was one of 24 in total.
00:16:24.140 The other 23 were either sort of wishy-washy
00:16:28.360 or extremely pro-Trudeau.
00:16:31.120 For example, there was a book written by the CBC's Aaron Wary,
00:16:35.100 total love letter to Trudeau.
00:16:37.900 So you could say that's a campaign ad for Trudeau,
00:16:42.100 except, of course, it's a book, so it's exempt.
00:16:44.840 The police who interrogated me,
00:16:46.700 they were 30-year veterans of the RCMP, they told me.
00:16:50.360 They're working for Elections Canada now.
00:16:52.720 They said they were aware of these 23 other books,
00:16:55.520 but mine was the only one they were investigating.
00:16:58.720 And I said, how's that?
00:17:00.740 Isn't that proof of what's going on there?
00:17:02.980 And they actually said to me, well, you can complain about them.
00:17:05.940 No, I'm not a censor.
00:17:07.300 I'm not this crazy book burner.
00:17:10.020 But they admitted, I'm the only book they're prosecuting.
00:17:13.760 And by the way, I'm the only book that criticized Trudeau.
00:17:16.260 That's a really bad look for a G7 country.
00:17:19.840 Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things,
00:17:22.400 given the implications of this charge that you've had leveled against you,
00:17:26.220 but was it just the ads that you were charged for,
00:17:29.340 the posters, the signs, the billboards,
00:17:31.340 or was it those as well as the book itself?
00:17:34.660 You know, I'd have to look at the exact wording.
00:17:37.040 I don't have the violation in front of me.
00:17:39.360 But they specifically mentioned the image.
00:17:43.920 We had an artist.
00:17:46.000 I don't know, for those, I mean, the Sopranos,
00:17:48.460 a lot of the kids these days don't know what that is.
00:17:51.080 But for people in their 30s and 40s,
00:17:52.860 they might recall that show, the Sopranos.
00:17:55.100 It's about 20 years old now.
00:17:56.480 They had this promotional poster that showed Tony Soprano
00:17:59.960 and his Soprano family looking a little, very menacing.
00:18:04.020 So we, the book cover of the Libranos was an homage to that.
00:18:09.420 It had Trudeau and his henchmen.
00:18:11.880 Bill Morneau was in it, Catherine McKenna.
00:18:14.100 It was a total spoof.
00:18:15.540 I guess you only really got it if you understood the original Sopranos thing.
00:18:20.000 So it's probably a bit of a dated reference now.
00:18:22.660 But they, so what was on the billboards was exactly what was on the cover.
00:18:28.740 It was, we used the same artwork.
00:18:30.740 The only thing is our ads had three words on them, buy the book.
00:18:37.560 So, you know, it was just the cover of the book that said, buy the book.
00:18:43.780 Those were found in violation.
00:18:46.700 I'm sorry, I don't have it in front of me,
00:18:48.000 but you can read the violation for yourself.
00:18:51.020 We put them on the internet at SaveRebelNews.com.
00:18:54.020 So folks can read it.
00:18:55.300 You can also see my interrogation at the hands of these officers.
00:19:02.160 Can I throw one more wrinkle at you?
00:19:04.020 And I thought this was crazy.
00:19:06.040 When I was being interrogated with, and this was a year ago,
00:19:09.340 they asked me to go to their high security headquarters in Gatineau, Quebec.
00:19:14.120 So I did.
00:19:14.720 And then I, but I didn't tell them I was recording them because I knew no one would believe me.
00:19:19.900 I didn't know what they were going to say, but I knew it would be so crazy that no one would believe me if I didn't film it.
00:19:24.460 So I went in there with a hidden camera.
00:19:25.980 That's the only time I've ever done that in my life.
00:19:27.920 I was very nervous about it.
00:19:29.700 But it worked, not nervous to do it.
00:19:31.780 I was nervous that the camera wouldn't work, but it worked great.
00:19:34.220 And you can see in that videotape, and we have that on that page, SaveRebelNews.com.
00:19:39.680 I asked the cops, I said, I've come all the way to Gatineau, Quebec to meet you.
00:19:45.560 I've come here voluntarily.
00:19:47.460 I didn't tell them I came to record them also.
00:19:49.560 I said, I've come here to meet the complaint, but you haven't shown me the complaint yet.
00:19:55.880 Can I see the actual complaint that started this whole thing?
00:19:59.620 Can you tell me who complained?
00:20:02.140 And they said no.
00:20:03.140 They refused to show me the complaint.
00:20:06.220 They refused to tell me who the complainant was.
00:20:08.700 I said, how can I meet?
00:20:10.200 I've come all the way to Gatineau.
00:20:11.780 Yeah, you have a right to face your accuser, except you don't in this proceeding.
00:20:15.660 Yeah, and to this day, that was a year ago, remember, so they convicted me now.
00:20:20.180 They still haven't shown me the complaint or told me who the complainant is.
00:20:23.860 And I know this is just one more level of crazy.
00:20:27.480 They didn't actually invite me to their hearing or trial or whatever it was.
00:20:31.440 The last interaction I had with them was a year ago.
00:20:34.540 So they investigated me.
00:20:38.000 They interrogated me or whatever.
00:20:39.380 And then there was no hearing.
00:20:42.660 There was no time to come and present an argument.
00:20:46.300 They knew I had a law firm because I had my law firm talk to them about a few things.
00:20:51.020 So they knew who I was.
00:20:53.840 They knew how to get in touch with me.
00:20:55.260 They knew who my lawyer was and how to get in touch with them.
00:20:58.120 But they didn't tell either me or my lawyers there was going to be a hearing or a panel.
00:21:03.760 I don't even know.
00:21:05.100 Maybe it was just one guy who said he's guilty.
00:21:07.820 We weren't invited to that.
00:21:09.740 We didn't know how that it was.
00:21:11.460 We weren't even invited to make written submissions.
00:21:14.740 We were just told out of the blue that we were convicted and fined.
00:21:22.120 It's absurd.
00:21:23.140 Obviously, we're appealing.
00:21:24.880 And we're going to challenge the underlying constitutionality of this law.
00:21:29.900 And I think that this, the fact that they're doing, I think it's absurd.
00:21:33.300 I think it looks really bad on them.
00:21:34.780 But the fact they're proceeding nonetheless tells me we're in a new era, Andrew, where shame and our cultural memory of being a free place no longer carries weight.
00:21:47.360 And it's been a few days since I rang the alarm about this.
00:21:52.320 And other than you and one of your colleagues at True North, I don't think I've seen any coverage of this in the Canadian media.
00:22:01.740 And I think it's because I'm conservative.
00:22:05.420 I'm a bit of a troublemaker, a gadfly, some would say.
00:22:08.680 So either out of personal distaste for me or political disagreement with me, the fancy people, the intellectual class, have decided,
00:22:17.800 all right, we're fine with an author being convicted in absentia.
00:22:21.740 We're fine with an author being hit with $3,000 in penalties.
00:22:25.120 Because they know their worldview insulates them from this.
00:22:28.060 And that's the big danger of this.
00:22:29.540 It used to be back in the era of the Human Rights Commission fights.
00:22:32.760 There was a principled response from journalists because they understood the broader implications of what was happening.
00:22:39.220 And I do have to ask you about that battle because I recall one of the big shortcomings in people that support free speech's ability to fight against the Human Rights Commissions
00:22:48.800 is that it wasn't really happening in a real courtroom and very similar to what's happening here.
00:22:53.920 This is a hearing that takes place behind closed doors.
00:22:56.880 It might not have even been a hearing.
00:22:58.120 Do you have the ability under this law to fight this in a real court?
00:23:04.380 Well, you know, I gave it to our lawyers and I asked them to look at the appeal.
00:23:08.880 And it will eventually get to a real court.
00:23:15.180 I think the first appeal, believe it or not, is within Elections Canada.
00:23:20.300 Of course.
00:23:20.700 Don't hold me to that.
00:23:21.520 A body that has served you so well up until this point in this investigation.
00:23:25.800 Yeah, so we'll probably lose that one too.
00:23:27.640 I don't know.
00:23:29.120 But I've told the lawyers.
00:23:31.480 It's the same lawyers that argued for Rebel News alongside you and your lawyers at the Federal Court of Canada to get into the election debates.
00:23:42.780 So we've got great free speech lawyers, Aaron Rosenberg, David Emmalep.
00:23:47.000 They were with you when you won that free speech battle.
00:23:51.860 So these are the same guys I'm using.
00:23:53.600 Don't mess with success.
00:23:54.760 These guys got it.
00:23:55.560 So I said to them, appeal this finding, but also challenge the underlying law.
00:24:00.880 Because, look, if we don't do it, who will?
00:24:03.840 When I was a younger man, let's say 25 years ago, I recall when I was just learning about the law and things like that,
00:24:12.160 I recall there was a tradition amongst Canadian media companies to hire a free speech lawyer, like a top gun,
00:24:20.460 send him to court whenever there was a free speech battle.
00:24:23.580 And this one excellent free speech lawyer, and it would be different on different cases, would represent all the media.
00:24:31.120 So a lawyer would show up in court and say, your honor.
00:24:32.980 Yeah, there was a consortium mindset.
00:24:34.560 A consortium, that's what they would call it.
00:24:35.820 Because everyone realized they were all in it together.
00:24:37.780 That's right.
00:24:38.540 So the Globe and Mail, the Toronto Star, the Toronto Sun, all the newspapers, all the TV stations,
00:24:44.480 they'd chip in like a thousand bucks each.
00:24:46.820 And together, that would maybe give them 20 grand.
00:24:49.500 So they'd send a top gun into court and say, your honor, I'm here to represent every single newspaper and TV station, radio station in this country.
00:24:58.120 Here's the list of them all, because this is a grave threat to all of us.
00:25:01.920 And even though we may not like this guy, we may not know this guy, the principle is so large and important, we're here.
00:25:07.960 I haven't seen that done in at least a decade.
00:25:12.860 And because there's so many newspapers and TV stations, it's not a money issue.
00:25:16.840 I think they have been tamed and trained, and they're submissive now.
00:25:22.520 I think they're all on the payroll of Justin Trudeau's media bailout.
00:25:27.000 They're all ideologically fused and merged with the government.
00:25:33.300 The Canadian Civil Liberties Association is absent without leave.
00:25:36.820 It really is a tiny handful.
00:25:40.900 The Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, they're fighting hard.
00:25:44.120 And I think I've just gone through the whole list by mentioning them.
00:25:47.420 There is the Canadian Constitution Foundation.
00:25:50.200 I saw they were doing some stuff.
00:25:52.300 But really, there's nobody.
00:25:54.080 And it's really weird that we have to spend what will probably be 100 grand fighting this.
00:25:59.880 I mean, a normal human being would say, just pay the three grand.
00:26:03.820 Why would you pay?
00:26:04.880 Or just register your book.
00:26:06.140 But you have to, you can't die on the, I mean, you have to fight on these hills, though,
00:26:11.560 because it is going to hamper your ability to write a book in the next election, whenever
00:26:16.020 that comes, and so on.
00:26:17.680 But I do have to ask, because I know that you're fighting the underlying law as well.
00:26:21.280 And I'm glad you are.
00:26:22.340 Because that act that exempts advertising of books, specifically, also has a caveat there,
00:26:29.080 which I understand they're using against you, which is that that only applies if the book
00:26:33.360 were going to be published, regardless of whether or not there were an election.
00:26:37.500 And now, personally, I don't think that should matter, right?
00:26:40.040 I think if you're in any sort of world of publishing, you don't want to publish something
00:26:44.720 when it's going to have less of an impact.
00:26:46.600 So if you're writing a book that has to do with an election, you're going to publish
00:26:49.600 it around the time of an election.
00:26:50.920 It's the same as how, in the media, people hold on to scoops until after weekends or after
00:26:55.760 holidays.
00:26:56.380 But this is a book that you would have written regardless, isn't it?
00:26:59.540 Yeah.
00:26:59.980 You know what?
00:27:00.400 I'm glad you mentioned that.
00:27:01.540 So section two of this law says books are exempt, the promotion of books are exempt if, number
00:27:08.200 one, it's sold at a reasonable price, and ours was, and number two, the book would have
00:27:13.840 been published whether or not there was an election.
00:27:15.740 That last part doesn't even make sense, because of course there's going to be an election.
00:27:20.900 And if there's not going to be an election, well, then we are in grave danger indeed.
00:27:26.620 And that's not even a joke anymore.
00:27:28.560 They've delayed elections in New Zealand, they've delayed elections in the United Kingdom
00:27:32.480 using the COVID emergency as an excuse.
00:27:35.400 So it's not even unthinkable that elections would be delayed.
00:27:39.280 That wording doesn't even make any sense.
00:27:42.780 I was asked by these cops, did you time the release of the book for the election?
00:27:47.700 I said, of course, because it's about the election.
00:27:50.340 You don't, there were probably, I'm going to guess, 500, maybe more books about Donald
00:27:56.600 Trump, probably 500, including sort of small publishers.
00:28:00.680 Like the Trump book industry, Trump saved the book industry.
00:28:04.460 I mean, think about all the Trump books.
00:28:07.580 None of them waited until November the 4th to be published.
00:28:11.440 That would be really weird.
00:28:13.520 All of them were published pretty much after Labor Day, because they wanted to sell books
00:28:19.240 when people were paying attention to the election.
00:28:21.520 Election was in its final moment.
00:28:23.360 So, of course, my book was published on the eve of the election.
00:28:28.620 Same thing with the other 23 books about Trudeau.
00:28:31.560 It would have been really, really weird to publish a book about Trudeau in the election
00:28:35.780 after the election.
00:28:37.560 Then it's all moot.
00:28:39.120 It's all obsolete.
00:28:40.400 And if they're trying to make that against the law, I mean, by the way, if they are saying
00:28:45.580 that's against the law, well, then all 24 books are against the law.
00:28:49.020 It's normal to publish a book during a campaign.
00:28:52.240 The wording of the law is so weird, whether or not there's an election.
00:28:55.540 Well, if there was no election in Canada, you're darn straight I would publish that book.
00:28:59.440 Yeah, and it's more than books we need to be doing at that point.
00:29:02.760 All right.
00:29:03.240 Well, we wish you the best in this.
00:29:04.800 Please do keep us updated.
00:29:06.080 Ezra Levant, the Rebel Commander and author of the now-banned book, effectively, The Libranos.
00:29:12.140 Ezra, thanks very much for coming on today.
00:29:14.220 Thanks, Andrew.
00:29:15.080 That was, of course, Ezra Levant, and you can get all the details at rebelnews.com.
00:29:20.120 And that does it for me for today.
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