Juno News - March 04, 2022


WATCH： Liberal MP loses his mind about freedom convoy


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6 minutes

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172.92268

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1,078

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23


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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you Mr. Wells. You're a veteran and we thank you
00:00:06.920 for your service. You went on record saying that you know what sacrifices on
00:00:12.900 Fox News. Do you believe that calling for the overthrow of a democratically
00:00:16.440 elected government or funding movements that speak to that is part of the
00:00:20.360 freedoms that you fought for? No I don't believe that. The convoy and
00:00:27.020 protests, protesters spoke to publicly the desire to commit violence against the
00:00:32.840 government, to overthrow the government. Would your platform, having seen all of
00:00:38.520 these things in the public domain, not have caught this as part of your
00:00:41.180 prohibited activities and terms of use? Well in our course of research around the
00:00:48.080 campaigns that was not something that we were aware of and obviously there's
00:00:53.900 always fringe elements to any any organization and they the the media I
00:00:58.720 believe in in general just tries to polarize the fringe things because it's
00:01:03.500 great for me but it doesn't necessarily sorry sorry no general yeah you talk you
00:01:09.920 say that you believe that the media polarizes do you believe that it was
00:01:13.040 polarization when the city of Ottawa was shut down and there were a variety of
00:01:17.420 laws, statutes, regulations and ordinances of the city of Ottawa as well as
00:01:20.860 federal laws that were violated which fall again counter to your terms of use and
00:01:25.120 that by the way would have only required you to turn on the television? Well you
00:01:29.380 can say that I don't I don't necessarily agree with that so and so do you
00:01:33.620 believe it was lawful protest what happened in Ottawa? From what I've seen I
00:01:37.980 believe it was lawful up up to up to the point where orders were enacted to
00:01:44.420 make it unlawful but you so you believe that violating sound ordinances or
00:01:50.960 traffic violations blocking off entire streets outside the capital is
00:01:54.380 perfectly lawful perfectly reasonable even though it's considered unlawful? Well
00:01:59.240 I don't I don't necessarily know that those things happened and so you don't
00:02:04.640 know that those things happen did you turn on the television and see anything
00:02:07.420 about this campaign sir when you became when you became part of the media
00:02:10.880 narrative even Fox News. I do need to make a distinction the blockade over the
00:02:19.000 bridges had nothing to do with the campaigns on give send go they weren't
00:02:21.800 they weren't campaigns on give send go for those blockades what happened in
00:02:27.140 Ottawa from what I was getting reports of on the ground was that truckers did
00:02:32.180 move into the city and that lanes of traffic were open and available for
00:02:36.800 emergency vehicles and other vehicles to travel through and that it was the
00:02:40.400 police. Were you aware that horns were blaring through the night in violation of
00:02:45.260 a variety of ordinances? I did hear reports of horns blaring and that an
00:02:51.620 injunction was made against that and they stopped. They knew that the law was
00:02:58.560 being broken in a variety of different ways in Ottawa and your platform says that
00:03:03.600 give send go is not a place for hatred abuse disrespect profanity meanness
00:03:07.500 meanness harassment or spam and you knew that there were reports of people
00:03:11.640 documented on video of supporters of this convoy spewing hate threatening
00:03:16.720 violence inciting people to rebel against the government and against the
00:03:20.120 citizens of Ottawa would your platform not have reasonably shut that down?
00:03:23.580 I'll reiterate give send go does not condone violence of any form we believe
00:03:31.260 there's there's more power in the unity of peaceful protests as in any polarized
00:03:36.660 situation we recognize there will be a few individuals and groups that might
00:03:41.220 intentionally try to incite violence and hijack a movement.
00:03:44.160 So how many is okay? How many is okay that how many bad apples is okay in a bunch?
00:03:50.160 No, I think that we already have processes in place with law enforcement to take care of bad actors that are that are
00:03:59.160 actually committing acts of violence. And how did you do that in this case?
00:04:02.560 How did you do that in this case where you saw that there were hateful when there
00:04:06.360 was hateful speech when there were people that were speaking about overthrowing the
00:04:09.300 government inciting violence did you shut those funds down did you prevent them
00:04:12.720 from accessing the funds? Again again the Canadian government did not reach out to us.
00:04:17.560 I'm asking about your terms of use sir the terms of use on your side.
00:04:21.160 Mr. Chair point of order I think that I think that the line of questioning where
00:04:25.760 it's all very important that we are very passionate about this but I do think it's
00:04:29.060 getting a bit abusive I would just ask the member take a breath ask his
00:04:32.780 questions but I think this is getting a little bit too much it's bordering on
00:04:37.460 abusive at this point so I just ask him to take a breath. Thank you.
00:04:40.560 The breath has been taken now let me ask you again your your site explicitly says that
00:04:48.660 prohibited activities and campaigns you may not use the give send go service for activities
00:04:53.520 that violate any law statute ordinance or regulation in particular related to items
00:04:58.420 that encourage promote facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity promote
00:05:02.340 hate violence racial intolerance or the financial exploitation of a crime. This is a pretty
00:05:07.620 broad set of parameters sir is this on the basis of statute that is created by law or
00:05:13.820 the discretion of give send go. Well there's discretion around campaigns as they as as people
00:05:22.820 previously have mentioned this was an ongoing situation a situation that was evolving quite
00:05:30.060 rapidly and so there is discretion within give send go to understand and make determinations
00:05:36.500 upon whether those things are actually happened in conjunction with local law enforcement or federal
00:05:41.720 officials of which none of them took the time to actually reach out to us and and make us aware
00:05:46.680 of those things. Well having now seen what you have seen knowing what you now know would you have
00:05:51.560 allowed this type of funder to have taken place again or would you allow this take place again?
00:05:55.960 10 seconds in your answer please. Yeah it's something that we take on a case-by-case basis we have to
00:06:04.280 navigate each one of these individually and the campaign itself was a distinct group of
00:06:10.280 uh group of individuals so. Thank you very much.