WATCH： Liberal MP loses his mind about freedom convoy
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In this episode, we speak with a veteran who served in the U.S. Marine Corps and served as a member of the United States Navy SEAL Team Six. We discuss his views on the events that took place in the streets of Ottawa, Canada on July 14th, 2019.
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Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you Mr. Wells. You're a veteran and we thank you
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for your service. You went on record saying that you know what sacrifices on
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Fox News. Do you believe that calling for the overthrow of a democratically
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elected government or funding movements that speak to that is part of the
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freedoms that you fought for? No I don't believe that. The convoy and
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protests, protesters spoke to publicly the desire to commit violence against the
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government, to overthrow the government. Would your platform, having seen all of
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these things in the public domain, not have caught this as part of your
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prohibited activities and terms of use? Well in our course of research around the
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campaigns that was not something that we were aware of and obviously there's
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always fringe elements to any any organization and they the the media I
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believe in in general just tries to polarize the fringe things because it's
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great for me but it doesn't necessarily sorry sorry no general yeah you talk you
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say that you believe that the media polarizes do you believe that it was
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polarization when the city of Ottawa was shut down and there were a variety of
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laws, statutes, regulations and ordinances of the city of Ottawa as well as
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federal laws that were violated which fall again counter to your terms of use and
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that by the way would have only required you to turn on the television? Well you
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can say that I don't I don't necessarily agree with that so and so do you
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believe it was lawful protest what happened in Ottawa? From what I've seen I
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believe it was lawful up up to up to the point where orders were enacted to
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make it unlawful but you so you believe that violating sound ordinances or
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traffic violations blocking off entire streets outside the capital is
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perfectly lawful perfectly reasonable even though it's considered unlawful? Well
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I don't I don't necessarily know that those things happened and so you don't
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know that those things happen did you turn on the television and see anything
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about this campaign sir when you became when you became part of the media
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narrative even Fox News. I do need to make a distinction the blockade over the
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bridges had nothing to do with the campaigns on give send go they weren't
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they weren't campaigns on give send go for those blockades what happened in
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Ottawa from what I was getting reports of on the ground was that truckers did
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move into the city and that lanes of traffic were open and available for
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emergency vehicles and other vehicles to travel through and that it was the
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police. Were you aware that horns were blaring through the night in violation of
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a variety of ordinances? I did hear reports of horns blaring and that an
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injunction was made against that and they stopped. They knew that the law was
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being broken in a variety of different ways in Ottawa and your platform says that
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give send go is not a place for hatred abuse disrespect profanity meanness
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meanness harassment or spam and you knew that there were reports of people
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documented on video of supporters of this convoy spewing hate threatening
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violence inciting people to rebel against the government and against the
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citizens of Ottawa would your platform not have reasonably shut that down?
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I'll reiterate give send go does not condone violence of any form we believe
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there's there's more power in the unity of peaceful protests as in any polarized
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situation we recognize there will be a few individuals and groups that might
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intentionally try to incite violence and hijack a movement.
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So how many is okay? How many is okay that how many bad apples is okay in a bunch?
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No, I think that we already have processes in place with law enforcement to take care of bad actors that are that are
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actually committing acts of violence. And how did you do that in this case?
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How did you do that in this case where you saw that there were hateful when there
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was hateful speech when there were people that were speaking about overthrowing the
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government inciting violence did you shut those funds down did you prevent them
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from accessing the funds? Again again the Canadian government did not reach out to us.
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I'm asking about your terms of use sir the terms of use on your side.
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Mr. Chair point of order I think that I think that the line of questioning where
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it's all very important that we are very passionate about this but I do think it's
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getting a bit abusive I would just ask the member take a breath ask his
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questions but I think this is getting a little bit too much it's bordering on
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abusive at this point so I just ask him to take a breath. Thank you.
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The breath has been taken now let me ask you again your your site explicitly says that
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prohibited activities and campaigns you may not use the give send go service for activities
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that violate any law statute ordinance or regulation in particular related to items
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that encourage promote facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity promote
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hate violence racial intolerance or the financial exploitation of a crime. This is a pretty
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broad set of parameters sir is this on the basis of statute that is created by law or
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the discretion of give send go. Well there's discretion around campaigns as they as as people
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previously have mentioned this was an ongoing situation a situation that was evolving quite
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rapidly and so there is discretion within give send go to understand and make determinations
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upon whether those things are actually happened in conjunction with local law enforcement or federal
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officials of which none of them took the time to actually reach out to us and and make us aware
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of those things. Well having now seen what you have seen knowing what you now know would you have
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allowed this type of funder to have taken place again or would you allow this take place again?
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10 seconds in your answer please. Yeah it's something that we take on a case-by-case basis we have to
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navigate each one of these individually and the campaign itself was a distinct group of
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uh group of individuals so. Thank you very much.