"We hear you" - Conservative MP launches Vaccine Injury Inquiry
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In this episode of Ratio, we speak with Conservative MP Dean Allison, who is leading an inquiry into the number of reported adverse reactions to the common cold and flu vaccine Ciprofloxacin (PCUD) in Canada.
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surprisingly we have some positive news coming out of parliament conservative mp dean allison
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has announced today that he will be chairing an inquiry into covid vaccine injuries it's the kind
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of thing you thought you would never hear from a parliamentarian just a few years ago but now there
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will be a forum for those that were injured and silenced through the vaccine to speak out and have
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their stories heard the covet vaccine rollout was one of the worst public policy failures i have ever
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seen from the canadian government and provincial governments it upended lives it ripped families
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apart it divided the nation and to go with it there have been tens of thousands of adverse
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reactions logged by health canada to the vaccine so on this episode of ratio we will be speaking
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with the conservative mp who is championing and leading this important inquiry the canadian
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juno news youtube channel and the common question for the episode is this do you know of someone
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who was injured from the vaccine let me know in the comments below and let's get into it joining
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me now is dean allison the conservative mp for niagara west dean thank you so much for joining
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me and i also want to say thank you for launching this much needed inquiry it's
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really important and i'm glad to see someone is taking it on well thank you very much thanks for
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having me on to discuss it a bit more i couldn't agree with you more uh you know lots of people
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have been suffering in silence for too long they haven't had a chance or an outlet and you know
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know we've we've sort of said hey you know we expected you to get vaccinated and sorry you're
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injured but uh you know what we don't want to talk about it anymore so it makes it tough for people
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who feel like they did something wrong they did what they were asked of at the time with what the
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information they knew and uh so now that they're injured it's like i feel like no one cares we're
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no one's paying attention no one wants to listen and it's a tough conversation i think we should
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be allowed to have these conversations. So that's what my goal is really to force the issue to allow
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people to be able to talk about difficult things. Talk to us a little bit about the numbers that
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we're dealing with here. From the early reporting on this, we've seen that there were tens of
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thousands of reported adverse reactions to the COVID vaccine. Can you explain a little bit more
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about what kind of numbers we're dealing with here? Sure. So, you know, what Health Canada
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recognizes is around 60 000 adverse reactions 11 000 of them of seriously but you know i i sort of
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put vaccine injuries into a couple categories there's ones that are signed off by a doctor
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there's ones that a doctor refused to sign off on because of their concern and the pressure around
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medical associations around the country and then there's a third group of people that think they
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could be injured may not be aware they're injured because of whatever they have and have happened
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in their life so the reality is what we want to do is we want to talk to people that a doctor has
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said you know what this is uh highly likely that it's been you've been injured as a result of it
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so i think there's a lot more i think the reality is we have a sixty thousand dollar number of
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people that have reported but you're probably well aware we don't do a great job of reporting
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in this country uh and that's a problem and then you know when it comes to stats you know it's very
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hard to know if you're not keeping track uh what those are as i said there's a there's many
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categories right of where people stand so i think that number could be much higher but let's go with
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the numbers that public health in canada recognize and that summer around 60 000 people that uh have
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suggested that one so seeing as how you've put your name to this you are leading it i presume
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you've had these conversations with constituents and people who have been impacted could you
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preview a little bit for us what are the kind of stories that we are going to hear from this inquiry
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what kind of injuries are we looking at here well i mean i think there's a variety and you know it
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is interesting because it uh everyone's maybe affected differently right uh you know you can
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sit around the table with a group of friends and have a casual conversation about what happened to
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them you know once they took the first dose and second dose and each one of them may have a
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different response you know some may say hey listen i had no reaction at all and that's good
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to hear we're really happy to hear that but there may be someone says you know what i i got i i was
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so i i was like flat out on my back for for two days right and then the the list is varied i mean
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there's a i don't have a list in front of me but there is certainly a long list i mean we've seen
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some of the more uh ones you know like myocarditis and and you know and a bunch of a bunch of other
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things i i think this is why it's important to talk to people because everyone's experience
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was so unique right at the end of the day uh what may have happened to uh your neighbor and your
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friend would be uh not you know may not have happened at all in the same way across the
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country so you know my thought process was i i was hearing these stories from across the country
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uh people were reaching out to me uh certainly hearing these stories in my in my constituency
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where people would call me uh and you know with their concerns and where they're at
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and then you know it's the liberal government that admits that this is this has happened so once again
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this is not a it's not a partisan issue this is a this is a non-partisan issue because this affects
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people from coast to coast regardless of how they vote or or what they think or even if they do vote
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and so i think that you know when you start hearing some of these stories and you don't
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get a chance to talk about them then what happens is people think they're alone right and that's
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what we're trying to tell people the message we want to send them is you're not alone there's
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other people may be experiencing something similar so we give you an opportunity to come
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and have that conversation and then people listen we're not going to fix anything but we need to
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acknowledge that people were injured as i said the liberal government has already done that through
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one the first vaccine injury program that they had that was spent you know two-thirds uh i know
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you guys reported on that two-thirds of the money went to administration and only one-third to to
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actual uh people that were that were impacted so i think there's a lot of things that we could do
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better and at the end of the day if we could uh hear those stories and hear how people are are
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making progress on being able to apply for some of these programs i think that uh maybe that shared
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information will help others i think one of the main issues that a lot of people are still
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really upset about and perhaps it's people who are personally who have personally been injured
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by vaccines or it's people who know people that have been the issue is that those that have speak
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spoken out have been labeled as conspiracy theorists people even even politicians that
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use their platform to talk about this i'm sure you are prepared to face those allegations
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have been labeled as a conspiracy theorist and it works to silence people who have genuine
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concerns and genuine issues i guess the question is what what is your response to the inevitable
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attack from maybe it'll be from the legacy medium it might be from the government benches to this
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inquiry that you will be that you are platforming conspiracies yeah i think that's a great question
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you know and i think the conversation we're having now is a lot different than it was a couple years
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ago right we now have time people have said you know what something's not right and i'm not really
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sure but their own government acknowledged i mean there's a reason there's a vaccine injury problem
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uh sorry program it's because they recognize that people got injured so to all the people that would
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call anyone that would suggest otherwise conspiracy theories it's like it's the government themselves
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and the liberal government that suggests that they understand that people were injured that's
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why there's a program and yet in typical program form uh most of the money goes towards administration
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and very few dollars go to individuals so they're working on a new program i haven't
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got any details of what that may look like i know that our health committee was doing great work
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guys like dan maser has been a champion and the whole health committee and for pushing for those
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details but we still don't know what that looks like so imagine that they you're in a program
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and you're looking for government support right that's what we do and all day long we talk to
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people you know as a member of parliament people come in to me and share their problems all the
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time so imagine that i am not allowed to talk about certain topics right and i think that's
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the challenge you know this government continues to push issues around censorship and around you
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know what we say what we can't say and i think it's pretty chilling when the government decides
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what you can and can't talk about it i'm just grateful that the government acknowledged that
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they actually were the cause of some of these vaccine injuries through the program and they've
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issued a program to make that happen so it'd be a little bit rich for them to say that uh
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this doesn't exist when they indeed themselves have admitted this it will be rich indeed but i'm
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pretty sure that the attacks will still come regardless fair enough fair enough you you know
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another another issue that a lot of people have been dealing with is this sense that there hasn't
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being any genuine accountability from people who are in charge who made serious mistakes
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at a government level. And there was a lot of information that was gained from the National
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Citizens Inquiry and other inquiries. And I'm sure this Allison inquiry on COVID vaccine injuries
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will result in the same thing. So I know that the mandate is to listen to stories, listen to
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concerns and amplify those concerns, but is there any look into the future as a potential way to
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hold people to account if this inquiry uncovers some serious wrongdoing? Yeah, that's a great
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question. I think, you know, we look around the G20. I mean, there's some 30 countries that are
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doing some form of inquiry, either through committee or through a national inquiry,
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government inquirer uk's done a lot of these things i mean uk the home of uh censorship in
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large is actually doing more more on this issue than in canada you know i think it starts this
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is a starting point of trying to get people to acknowledge that people are injured and they need
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to be able to talk about it uh you know you've got to be in government you got to be in control
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of government to be able to uh mandate any type of inquiry that would have some fact-finding powers
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and you know some judicial powers where they could go any further that's why we're going to
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keep it to what we do you know as i say all every single mp from every single party hears these
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stories in private so why can't we talk about them in public right so i think at the end of the day
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that's what we're trying to do is give people an opportunity to talk about it and discuss it make
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people aware and then you know try and help them access the programs that they're actually entitled
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to. As far as inquiries down the road, who knows? I mean, at the end of the day, it would be nice to
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see more happen, but that is not my mandate for this time around. But I think that I am grateful
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that we can get this out and we can hear people and their stories, and hopefully we can help
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them get some of the programs that have been promised by the government.
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it feels as though we are still in this country just as divided and uh and and opposed to one
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another as we were at the height of covid where everything was extremely divisive and and government
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policies wedged canadians against each other and families against each other what do you think it
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will require or what do you think needs to be done to reunite this country around you know
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besides politics which seems to push push us apart do you think getting to the bottom of this
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covid chapter closing the book on it and you know answering some of these questions is is going to
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help us get there and also do you feel like we're still in this moment of divisiveness well i
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definitely think we're still in a moment of divisiveness. I don't think it needs to be that
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way. I think at the end of the day, we as parliamentarians should be allowed to have
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hard conversations about every topic. And I think that, you know, you see a chill in the air with
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this liberal government around censorship, around, you know, sharing the news on platforms like
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Facebook, around algorithms, you know, when it comes to podcasts and stuff like that. So C-22
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is just another example so you know quite clearly this government has chosen a road
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to emulate themselves after the uk and some of their censorship you know i i wonder when
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people are going to start going to jail for mean memes i i i joke i don't want to joke about that
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but the reality is we've seen things like that happen in the uk i think the way you reunite
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people is that you have conversations and you have conversations whether they're easy or whether
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they're difficult this is a difficult conversation and no one's had it it's time we have these
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difficult conversations and you can insert whatever topic you want into that as canadians
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as parliamentarians we should be allowed to have a difference of opinion we should be allowed to
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disagree we should be able to respectfully disagree but we should have a forum and parliament is
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supposed to be that forum where you could talk to one another and you could disagree but that
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doesn't mean that you're my enemy and so i think that what i hope to see is by having these
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conversations that it'll be a way of you know healing some of the wounds uh that have started
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and that have happened with a number of these individuals that quite frankly feel like they've
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been abandoned by their government well that's that's the question that i want to leave the
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audience with and i want to hear your answer to it which is what message do you have for
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canadians who feel like they've been abandoned who feel like they've been harmed and ignored
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and labeled as a conspiracy theorist have gone through some seriously tough times,
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especially since the pandemic. What is your message to them today as you launch this inquiry?
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Yeah, I just want them to say we hear you. We hear you. We know that you did what you
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believed was right, what you were told you needed to do and what you were in some cases forced to
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do in order to go to school or get on a plane or go to work. And it's not through any fault
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of yours like you're not to be held responsible but i i just want people to know that we hear you
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we hear that you're hurting we hear that you are in pain and we we want to make sure we hear those
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stories because there is absolutely no way that people can start to heal if they can't share their
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stories and can't begin to talk about what they've been you know suffering in silence for so many
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years mpd nelson we'll leave it there and we're watching the inquiry closely thank you for joining
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me thanks for having me on i wish you a great day sir a reminder that if you want early access to
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common question of the episode do you know someone who was injured by the covid vaccine
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All right, we'll leave it there for this week. My name is Harrison Faulkner, and this is Ratioed.