Juno News - WEF experts and elites want even more control

00:00:00.000 Global elites are hobnobbing in Davos, Switzerland this week as part of the World Economic Forum's

00:00:04.980 annual meeting, but criticizing these elites, standing opposed to their global governance

00:00:09.660 schemes, will get you called a conspiracy theorist according to these elites. We're

00:00:15.160 going to break it all down on the show today. Plus, we'll be joined by True North's Andrew

00:00:18.480 Lawton, who's on the ground reporting in Davos. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice

00:00:22.900 Malcolm Show.

00:00:30.000 Everyone, thank you so much for tuning into the program. It's great to have you here.

00:00:39.660 I hope everyone had a wonderful Victoria Day long weekend. Hope you got to spend lots and

00:00:44.400 lots of time with your family, with your friends. I got to spend some time with my family. I

00:00:49.000 love to unplug over these long weekends. I basically just turn my phone and computer off and soak

00:00:54.800 in as much time with my two little kids. I have a one-year-old and a three-year-old, and

00:00:59.480 it's just so much fun. Having little kids around is the funnest thing. My daughter, Georgia,

00:01:04.200 who is 18 months, is starting to talk. Her and her brother, they like to wrestle and play,

00:01:10.240 and it's just really, really fun to be a part of that and to get to really immerse yourself

00:01:16.040 with the kids. I like getting rid of all the technology, getting rid of all the devices,

00:01:20.600 to spend time with the family and the kids. It's really what it's all about. I want to talk

00:01:24.820 today about the World Economic Forum, about what's going on in Davos, because we're living

00:01:30.180 through this really interesting moment in time where we have this sort of expert class that

00:01:34.900 tells us everything that is good for us. We're ruled by these technocrats who truly believe

00:01:40.900 that they know better how to live our lives than we do. They sit there and they issue heavy-handed

00:01:46.260 edicts. They push heavy-handed rules. We've lived through some of the most heavy-handed authoritarian-like

00:01:52.100 rules in my lifetime, where the government had exerted so much control over what we can do.

00:01:57.460 I'm talking about the COVID pandemic, the restrictions that we all lived through. We

00:02:01.460 haven't seen anything like that in the West before, maybe since wartime, since the Second World War,

00:02:07.060 when there were Emergency Measures Act issue. And so what we're seeing, what we're experiencing,

00:02:14.100 is a backlash towards that. People don't like that. People don't like these technocratic experts

00:02:19.140 telling us what to do because lo and behold, the experts are often incorrect. What a surprise,

00:02:24.580 I know, this idea that experts can't actually run our lives better. And so I see a growing pushback

00:02:30.420 against this and it's not really a left-right thing anymore. It's more like more and more people just

00:02:35.300 don't want these arrogant, progressive, mostly left-leaning elites telling us, designing our lives,

00:02:42.420 telling us what's good for us, telling us that we're going to have to suffer, we're going to have to

00:02:45.860 sacrifice for some greater good that we don't see, especially when the underlying assumptions that

00:02:50.980 these elites are making are often wrong. And so we're seeing lots and lots of pushback against

00:02:55.860 this. I think the trucker convoy, that was what it was all about. But there's so many other instances

00:03:00.100 in society. You can look at Brexit, you can look at Trump. People don't like to be told what to do

00:03:05.300 by a group of out-of-touch elites. And nothing sort of exemplifies this attitude and this distinction

00:03:12.260 between the elites and everyone else better than what goes on every year in Davos, Switzerland,

00:03:17.220 a luxury ski resort in the Swiss Alps where the global elite gather and they have these

00:03:23.140 conversations out loud. They say the quiet part out loud. They talk about how they want to reset

00:03:27.460 the economy, how they want to redesign the way that we live our lives. They want capitalism to be

00:03:33.140 infused with their woke ideology. They want us to sacrifice in terms of getting rid of fossil fuels.

00:03:38.260 They want to eliminate the kinds of jobs that they don't want. They really talk out loud about this

00:03:43.700 utopian vision that they have for the world where the experts are in charge and everyone else just

00:03:48.660 does exactly what they say. And so lo and behold, no surprise, people don't like that. People don't

00:03:53.860 like being told what to do by a group of out-of-touch experts and snobs. And that is exactly what the

00:03:59.540 World Economic Forum is all about. So it's easy to understand why there is a lot of interest in what

00:04:05.860 goes on at Davos. There's a lot of anger about what goes on at Davos. And it's not just coming

00:04:10.420 from the conventional political right. I know that a lot of the ink spilled in the Canadian legacy media

00:04:16.260 talking about how there's these conspiracies on the right. The reality is that people on the left

00:04:20.500 also oppose a group of billionaires flying in their private jets, heading to, again, a luxury ski resort in

00:04:27.300 the Swiss Alps to kind of rub elbows with politicians and government officials and the head of NGOs.

00:04:33.860 Like this whole gathering upsets a lot of people, not just on the political right, but on the political

00:04:39.540 left as well. Our own Andrew Lawton, who's on the ground there, has been reporting how most of the

00:04:44.180 protesters that go in and try to destabilize it, you know, they're climate environmentalists or they're

00:04:48.660 vegan activists. They're people who you would traditionally think of on the political right.

00:04:52.420 Obviously, there's a lot of frustration and skepticism from the political right as well.

00:04:58.980 And yet what we see from the media, almost in lockstep, is a kind of weird defense of these

00:05:05.460 global elites. You have media across the board in Canada basically saying it's not okay to criticize

00:05:11.860 these global elites. And if you do, you will be called a conspiracy theorist. This is a perfect

00:05:16.660 example, I think, of why Ezra Levant over at The Rebel, he coined the term the media party to

00:05:22.900 describe the media, the journalists in Canada, because they all take the same position. It's like

00:05:27.700 a party where they all kind of agree on the party lines and then they repeat the same talking points

00:05:32.820 about it. It doesn't matter what publication they write for. It doesn't matter whether they're

00:05:36.740 journalists, reporters, political pundits. It doesn't matter really if they're conservative or liberal.

00:05:41.220 They all have the same opinion when it comes to Davos. We're going to go through some of that

00:05:46.500 on the show today. So first, I want to talk about the so-called conspiracy theory and what it is all

00:05:52.020 about. So when you see all these members of the media party sort of shaking in anger and consternation,

00:05:58.980 saying, you know, these awful right-wingers and their conspiracy theorists about the World Economic

00:06:04.180 Forum, what are they talking about? Well, basically, the conspiracy theory is that the World Economic Forum

00:06:09.220 has penetrated Canada's cabinet, that this group of elites basically controls Justin Trudeau

00:06:15.700 and his cabinet. There's also a conspiracy around Klaus Schaub, who is the head of the World Economic

00:06:21.060 Forum. He started this thing 51 years ago. He's an academic from Switzerland. And the idea is that

00:06:28.260 basically this guy has total control. He controls governments. He planned the pandemic, that the whole

00:06:34.420 idea behind the pandemic was a great reset in order to just collapse the global economy and restart to

00:06:42.740 build it in some other way. Obviously, that's not true. This guy isn't all that powerful. But, you know,

00:06:47.780 the reason why people believe this, the reason why people think this is because that's literally what

00:06:52.820 he says. That's literally what he says. So here is Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum,

00:06:58.980 explaining how he has penetrated governments with its young global leaders program, including Justin

00:07:05.300 Trudeau. Let's see that clip. And I have to say, when I mention our names like Mrs. Merkel,

00:07:13.700 even Vladimir Putin and so on, they all have been young global leaders of the World Economic Forum.

00:07:20.260 But what we are very proud of now is the young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau,

00:07:30.420 President of Argentina and so on, that we penetrate the cabinets. So yesterday I was at a reception for

00:07:40.260 Prime Minister Trudeau, and I know that half of this cabinet, or even more half of

00:07:50.260 half of this cabinet are for our actually young global leaders of the World Economic Forum.

00:07:57.060 So, gee, I wonder why some people online think that this guy has penetrated Trudeau's cabinet. Well,

00:08:03.060 maybe because he says that he has. Likewise, you know, the whole idea of the Great Reset is supposedly

00:08:08.980 a conspiracy theory. And yet, Klaus Schwab's own book is called COVID-19, The Great Reset. So,

00:08:16.180 you know, it's not like these conspiracies are coming from thin air. There is actual reasons

00:08:21.460 behind why they're there. Now, you don't have to believe the meat of the conspiracy to be skeptical

00:08:25.460 of the underlying assumptions around it. Namely that, yes, a group of very influential,

00:08:30.980 high-profile, powerful people gather every year. They go skiing in this beautiful ski resort.

00:08:36.820 Usually the event takes place in January, but this year they were all so paranoid and so worried about

00:08:41.860 COVID, they pushed it back to now to May. So they didn't get to go on their usual ski trip in the

00:08:46.740 Swiss Alps. I guess that'll have to wait till next year. But they did get to gather in this beautiful

00:08:51.060 Swiss town. And so you have this really bizarre situation where you have a bunch of Canadian 1.00

00:08:56.420 journalists basically defending global elites against accusations from Canadians that these

00:09:02.420 people are doing something nefarious so that they're somehow wrong, which again, kind of doubles

00:09:07.380 down on the reason why so many Canadians are skeptical of elites and of institutions. It's like,

00:09:13.140 here we have a group of Canadians, a large and growing group of Canadians who have lost trust in

00:09:18.340 their government. They've lost faith in the media. They've lost faith in many of the governing

00:09:23.220 institutions of our country. And part of their anger and frustration is towards this sort of global

00:09:29.940 elite class of people who make decisions for them. And when you have an instance of people expressing

00:09:36.020 their frustration at these global elites, you have the media, one of the institutions that is failing,

00:09:41.140 that Canadians have lost trust in, their knee-jerk reaction is to defend the global elite against

00:09:47.060 accusations from the people. Once again, I made this point several times on social media and on the show,

00:09:52.180 that journalists used to hold the powerful accountable in service of the public. So they

00:09:57.780 would hold government accountable, they would hold powerful people, hold billionaires, hold corporations

00:10:01.540 accountable in service of the public. Now, what we see more and more, and this is another example of it,

00:10:08.100 we see journalists holding the public accountable in service of the elites, in service of the

00:10:13.300 government. And so here we have Clark Campbell over in the Globe and Mail saying that the World Economic

00:10:17.860 Forum conspiracy theory is in the conservative leadership race, and it's in Canada's main

00:10:23.060 streets. He does pick up on this trend. He writes that as a development in Canadian politics, it could

00:10:28.100 be a lot more important than a leadership race. A sizable group of Canadians have lost trust in, well,

00:10:33.380 almost anyone. Okay, it's not just in the Globe and Mail that they are accusing Canadians of being

00:10:38.580 conspiracy theorists. Our friends over at the Toronto Sun have likewise jumped in. Here's Brian Lilly writing

00:10:44.740 an op-ed last night. Polyev shills conspiracy theories to sell memberships. His whole point here

00:10:50.900 is that, well, members of the Harper government attended the World Economic Forum a decade ago,

00:10:55.860 and therefore how could Pierre Polyev criticize it? What we see here is basically a bunch of strawman

00:11:01.940 arguments saying that Canadians who criticize the World Economic Forum are lying or they're wrong or

00:11:07.460 they're mistaken, failing to actually try to understand what the criticisms are that are deeper.

00:11:13.140 Um, so Brian Lilly writes this. Schwab's call to have a great reset in the economy as part of the

00:11:19.140 recovery from COVID-19 has been the focus of those who see the World Economic Forum as an organization

00:11:24.420 with too much power. There are regular claims the World Economic Forum controls governments, including

00:11:29.460 Justin Trudeau's cabinet, and fixes the elections. Then Brian Lilly writes, none of this is true, but it's

00:11:34.820 shared widely online, and it's the people who buy into these conspiracy theories that Polyev is trying to attract

00:11:40.340 in his bid to win the leadership of the Conservative Party. Hmm, I wonder, I wonder why people believe

00:11:46.500 that the World Economic Forum controls governments, perhaps because all of these government leaders go

00:11:50.660 and gather in Davos every year. Uh, when it comes to Justin Trudeau's cabinet, his own finance minister

00:11:56.580 sits on the board of the World Economic Forum. Forget about everything else. How is that not a conflict

00:12:01.140 of interest? How is it not a conflict of interest for a cabinet minister, the minister of finance,

00:12:06.820 to also sit on the board of this global governance organization? Our friend Rupa Subramania over in

00:12:12.500 the National Post raised these questions, and I think it's perfectly legitimate and perfectly reasonable

00:12:18.020 that we question and doubt this. So Subramania's piece here says Chrystia Freeland's side gig with the

00:12:23.220 World Economic Forum is endangering Canadian democracy. Freeland notes an invitation to Davos

00:12:29.220 marks an aspiring plutocrat's arrival on the international scene. That was a quote from Chrystia Freeland back when 0.84

00:12:35.060 she used to be critical of the World Economic Forum. The global elite don't especially enjoy the glare of

00:12:40.420 publicity on their privileged lifestyles, so much so that Freeland wrote in a 2015 opinion piece in

00:12:46.500 The Guardian that after my book Plutocrats was published in 2012, I was even disinvited to a Davos

00:12:53.060 dinner party. The doors of Davos were closing for Freeland. They swung back open with their entry into

00:12:58.260 politics in 2013. And so now we know that Freeland is sitting on the board. She's currently the only

00:13:06.820 government minister to be sitting on a board. So again, makes you wonder, why is that a conflict of

00:13:12.580 interest? Why is Chrystia Freeland allowed to sit on a board that is espousing incredibly left-wing 0.97

00:13:18.500 views, right? This is the heart of the matter, that the experts and the elites at Davos express views that

00:13:24.340 are not widely shared by Canadians. They're pretty extreme. They're pretty out there. Okay,

00:13:30.340 but here's the real issue with Davos. It's not so much that it controls the Trudeau government. I

00:13:35.620 don't think that Klaus Schwab picks up the phone and tells Justin Trudeau what to do. The problem

00:13:40.420 is that Justin Trudeau and the Liberals, and by that I mean broadly Liberals in politics and media,

00:13:46.340 including most of the media party here, is that they like global institutions. They favour globalism.

00:13:52.580 They like the United Nations. They're aspirational. They like the idea of working together. And they

00:13:57.460 truly believe in the power of these institutions. And that is counter to the growing sentiment in

00:14:02.900 society who feel like these global institutions don't work and they're not working in Canada's

00:14:07.940 best interest. They're not working in the best interest of Canadians. In fact, they sort of undermine

00:14:12.180 our sovereignty. And so it's not so much that Trudeau is controlled by them, but it's that Trudeau is

00:14:17.060 inspired by them. Trudeau and his Liberal cabinet ministers love going to these kind of global events.

00:14:21.780 They love virtue signaling. They love being at the forefront. They love the glowing

00:14:26.260 profiles that they get from like-minded journalists who also go to these events. So time and time again,

00:14:31.380 they leave Davos and they come back and basically adopt exactly what was being talked about. So we

00:14:36.660 have a bunch of examples in June 2021 addressing climate change through carbon taxes, and they use

00:14:42.100 Canada as an example of successful carbon taxes. Likewise, this idea of the Global Future Council on

00:14:48.980 energy transition. There was a piece from 2021, why we need a global framework to regulate online harm

00:14:55.620 that was talked about at the World Economic Forum. And it was adopted by Canadians. We've seen this also

00:15:01.140 in regards to the United Nations. There's a huge uprising, mostly on the political right a couple

00:15:05.540 of years ago when the United Nations introduced a global compact on migration that basically gave

00:15:10.740 migrants the exact same rights as refugees and said that anyone has the right to travel to any country and

00:15:16.020 try to get citizenship. And the media was very, you know, the media party were very upset and they

00:15:21.060 were saying, you know, this isn't law. This isn't ratified. This is just basically an aspirational

00:15:26.180 international declaration. So why are conservatives getting worked up about it? Well, the idea is

00:15:31.140 because Trudeau comes home and drafts his legislation based on the nonsense and the gobbledgoop that is

00:15:37.220 being cooked up in these international forums. And again, we see it time and time again,

00:15:41.380 which is why I'm personally very skeptical of the World Economic Forum. And I think

00:15:44.900 that the criticism of the World Economic Forum is not a conspiracy theory. Sure,

00:15:48.900 there are some conspiracy theories and those should be debunked. It's not true that these people

00:15:52.740 actually control the levers of power, but they inspire governments like the Trudeau government to

00:15:57.860 do all kinds of awful policies that are terrible for the people of Canada. And so that's why I'm happy

00:16:03.860 to see Pierre Polyev come out pretty forcefully over the weekend and say that he will ban cabinet

00:16:09.620 ministers and top officials from being involved in the World Economic Forum. And sure, this is symbolic.

00:16:14.580 It's not going to completely stop the problem of global elites trying to ram their expert opinions

00:16:19.300 down our throats, but it's a good first step. And it's a good measure of where Pierre stands in the

00:16:24.740 in the issue of sort of global institutions and global governance on one side and state sovereignty and

00:16:30.420 the supremacy of the nation state on the other side. And it's good to see Pierre come out on the side of

00:16:36.260 Canada. And so this is a video that Pierre released over the weekend where he basically lays it all out

00:16:41.380 and he lets it be known where he stands on the World Economic Forum. And let me just tell you,

00:16:46.180 this created quite the stir online. We'll go through some reaction. And so here is that clip of Pierre

00:16:51.860 letting us know where he stands on the World Economic Forum. And that is why I've made it clear

00:16:55.860 that my ministers and my government will be banned from participating in the World Economic Forum when

00:17:02.180 I'm in government.

00:17:10.980 Work for Canada. Work for Canada. If you want to go to Davos to that conference, make it a one-way ticket.

00:17:17.460 But you can't be part of our government and working for a policy agenda that is against the interests of

00:17:23.700 our people. What he says are exactly right is exactly at the heart of people's concerns with

00:17:28.420 the World Economic Forum. You can't be part of our government and working for a policy agenda that

00:17:33.540 opposes Canadians' best interests. And I couldn't have said it any better myself. Good for Pierre,

00:17:39.300 again, for putting that out. Pretty remarkable the reaction to that tweet. Every fancy person in politics

00:17:44.900 and the media came out in lockstep to denounce Pierre Polyev and to basically just try to dunk on him,

00:17:51.780 try to say that he's lying or that he's promoting conspiracy theories or saying,

00:17:56.020 well, wait a minute, Stephen Harper attended the World Economic Forum 10 years ago, right?

00:18:00.180 It's like, well, guess what? This whole realignment about the global elites and experts telling us

00:18:06.260 what to do, that wasn't as much of a concern back 10 years ago when Stephen Harper was prime minister.

00:18:11.700 And also we knew where Harper stood. It was very clear that Stephen Harper preferred,

00:18:16.500 that Stephen Harper didn't like these global institutions. Every time he went to the United Nations,

00:18:20.420 he would tell us all of the problems that he had with the UN. And so it's so weird to see journalists

00:18:26.260 like here we have Evan Solomon from CTV or Mercedes Stevenson from Global trying to punch down Pierre 0.98

00:18:31.700 as if they're his opposition, as if it's their job to counter his position. You know, they're the media,

00:18:37.700 they're supposed to be reporting things. Instead, they're jumping into the arena and acting like political

00:18:43.380 players trying to dunk on the potential conservative leader. And of course, in doing all this,

00:18:49.060 these journalists reveal themselves to be clearly, obviously part of the same global elite mindset

00:18:55.300 that gathers in Davos. I'm sure they wish that they were all in Davos as well, like Chrystia Freeland,

00:19:01.460 who managed to go from journalist to cabinet minister in Canada to board member of the World Economic Forum.

00:19:07.620 I'm sure all these journalists aspire to that and that's their aspired career path. But I want to point

00:19:13.140 out what Robin Urbach of the Globe and Mail said. She quote tweeted Pierre and says,

00:19:17.460 I will make Canada the freest country on earth by banning certain people from participating in 1.00

00:19:21.460 something the internet told me was bad. It's kind of funny that a journalist would try to measure

00:19:26.740 freedom. Like usually when you measure freedom, you think of the freedom of the everyday person,

00:19:31.380 the ability for them to have a good life, to be able to afford a house, a car, the cost of living,

00:19:37.220 free to pick their own career, free to live their life in the way they want. Typically,

00:19:41.620 when you're measuring the freedom of a society, you're not measuring in terms of what government

00:19:47.620 officials and cabinet ministers or what extracurriculars they're allowed to be involved

00:19:51.540 with. It's just sort of weird that a journalist would instinctively think of freedom in terms of

00:19:56.660 the freedom of a cabinet minister to go to some fancy conference as opposed to the freedom of everyday

00:20:02.900 people to be able to live their life and pursue their own interests. It just really, again, shows you

00:20:08.820 the mindset of journalists that they're interested in defending the elite. They're not interested

00:20:14.020 in defending Canadians. They're not interested in holding elites accountable in service of

00:20:18.900 Canadians. They're interested in the exact opposite of that, holding Canadians accountable in service 0.56

00:20:23.940 of global elites. Well, this seems like a good point in the program to bring in Andrew Lawton,

00:20:29.220 True Norris Andrew Lawton, who's reporting from the ground in Davos, Switzerland. Andrew, it's great to have you.

00:20:33.460 Hey, it's good to be with you. So I wouldn't even know half the half of what was going on at Davos

00:20:39.860 if it wasn't for your reporting. The legacy media seems to have no interest in what's being said and

00:20:45.220 the themes and what's going on there. So first question for you, Andrew, why did you decide to

00:20:49.620 go to Davos and why do you think it's so important to report on this kind of stuff?

00:20:52.500 Well, I think there are two things. I mean, one is that we try to give the people what they want.

00:20:56.260 And I know our audience has been talking a lot about this, asking a lot about the questions they have

00:21:00.980 about the WAF and specifically its context on Canadians. And I know there are a lot of things

00:21:05.540 that are territorial about this organization because it is mysterious and that mystery and

00:21:10.740 secrecy breed that sort of stuff. But I think there's an overcorrection from a lot of people

00:21:15.380 who want to avoid looking at it at all, who say, oh, it's all conspiracy. You can't do anything. So

00:21:20.740 really what I want to do is come here and do what we do best at True North, which is talk about the facts,

00:21:25.220 talk about the side of the story the mainstream media is not representing,

00:21:28.260 and explain without delving into the fringe stuff that really isn't, I think, the bulk of

00:21:32.820 most people's criticisms with the WEF. Talk about what the organization is, what it stands for. And

00:21:37.620 a lot of that is just using its own language and showing what it is that they want. I mean,

00:21:42.900 there is no secrecy about the agenda. They're really using, I think, a very vocal and clear

00:21:47.140 language about what it is they want to do. So just a question, because I remember you had some

00:21:51.540 issues where they didn't want to let you in. They didn't want to allow you to cover this as a journalist.

00:21:55.380 You couldn't get the right credentials. But it seems like you have been able to get in and report

00:21:59.140 on that. So can you give us a bit of an update of your ability to access and report as a journalist

00:22:05.300 there on the ground? Yeah. So officially, I have no status. Officially, I can't go into any of the

00:22:10.260 secure areas. They have this really weird caste system with badges where your status depends on

00:22:16.100 the color of badge you have. And I'm completely bad. So I've got no status here, which means I can't

00:22:20.660 go inside. But there are two things that I think are working in my favor here. The first is that a

00:22:24.980 lot of their programming is actually public. A lot of their sessions are public. And you can access

00:22:29.300 them and watch them online. Anyone can. We have some people back in Canada as well that are going

00:22:34.340 through and looking for really important details. But the other part is that this is really an elite

00:22:39.060 village. I mean, one of the pro-climate justice protesters I spoke to a couple of days ago

00:22:43.540 characterized it pretty well as a corporate Disneyland. And they're not used to anyone in this safe space that

00:22:48.980 isn't invited. So a lot of these really important people are just walking around, going into the

00:22:53.140 shops, going into the restaurants. And I've been able to speak to UN officials. A few moments ago,

00:22:57.220 I spoke to former Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney. He didn't want to answer any questions,

00:23:01.140 but he was there. So it's really a combination of the two, what they're saying publicly and then

00:23:06.340 privately when you see them walking around just to ask them about what it is they want to do and if

00:23:10.740 they're okay with the consequences of that. Henry, you wrote a piece called The Strange Phoniness of Davos.

00:23:17.140 One of my impressions of the whole World Economic Forum is that the things that they think are the

00:23:21.860 priorities are so distant from the everyday concerns of Canadians. I know you were at the

00:23:26.660 Trucker Convoy. You report on a lot of the kind of cost of living issues that Canadians face. Can you sort

00:23:33.460 of contrast or talk about whether you think that the main areas of focus at a conference like this

00:23:39.460 are aligned with and similar to the day-to-day concerns of Canadians?

00:23:43.860 No, it's the opposite. And that's been one of the most stark things to see. And I've been trying

00:23:48.420 to figure out how to write about it. So let me workshop some material with you and your audience

00:23:52.820 here is that there's just this profound disconnect between the people that deal with the consequences

00:23:57.700 of the policies discussed here and those discussing the policies. And one significant example of this,

00:24:02.260 there was a panel yesterday featuring a Norwegian banker whose name I can't recall right now. And she

00:24:07.860 was talking about how all of these changes to green energy and the small and medium-sized business

00:24:13.220 industry are going to cause pain. Those are her words. And she said, we have to accept that it

00:24:17.140 causes pain and we have to talk about that. But she said, it's all worth it. And we have to just

00:24:20.980 tell people that it's worth it. Well, if you're a small business owner that can't afford the gas bill

00:24:24.820 or the electricity bill for your business, or you're a trucker who can't afford to put fuel in your

00:24:29.460 truck right now, you're not really going to be all that heart warmed by some Norwegian banker in the

00:24:35.140 Swiss mountains saying that, ah, yeah, but it's short-term pain, but it's better in the long run.

00:24:39.940 It's not better for the people. It may be better for the country. It may be better for the climate.

00:24:43.780 And both of those I think are big ifs, but it's not better for the people and they don't seem to care.

00:24:48.660 And it's amazing how little they seem to care about the fact that they don't care.

00:24:54.100 So one of the things, as you probably saw, Pierre Polyev came out with a video saying,

00:24:59.060 you know, if I find the prime minister, I'm not going to allow any government officials and any

00:25:02.420 cabinet ministers to go to this thing. And the reaction has been wild. Like everyone in lockstep

00:25:08.020 has come out to condemn this comment. I'm wondering if you, like, what is your feeling? Do you think

00:25:14.180 that Pierre is sort of giving oxygen to conspiracy theorists or do you think that that is a legitimate

00:25:19.540 and wise policy choice? One of the things that I find interesting, I've read a little bit of the

00:25:25.140 criticism of Pierre Polyev saying that. And what I find fascinating is that the people that try to

00:25:29.060 dismiss conspiracy theories, say they don't do anything. It's nothing. It's just a bunch of

00:25:33.300 people to get together and talk. They're, they're not actually doing anything. So if that's the case,

00:25:38.020 why do we want to be involved either? I mean, there's, there's an excuse to not want to be

00:25:41.780 involved because you think they're doing a bunch of terrible things, but if you think they're doing

00:25:45.380 nothing and it is just this global corporate Disneyland get together, then I think there's a

00:25:49.620 similar question of why do we want to embolden that? I think for Canada to come here, all of the climate

00:25:54.980 and energy discussions they're having have basically been policies that would amount to

00:25:59.380 signing a death warrant on the oil and gas sector, which in Canada is of the utmost importance. So I

00:26:03.780 think any Canadian government should be looking long and hard at their economic needs in Canada,

00:26:08.420 at what we need as a country and what they're talking about here and saying there's just not

00:26:11.700 a compatibility here. Well, Andrew, it looks like you're, you're getting rained on. So I really

00:26:15.940 appreciate you sticking it out there for this interview. I'll just ask you one, one final question.

00:26:21.220 You know, we, we, I agree with you that, that the criticism of Pierre, it feels like straw man.

00:26:25.940 It's like, rather than actually getting to the root of, Hey, this is why people don't like Davos.

00:26:30.580 This is why people don't like the world economic forum and what they're talking about. They just

00:26:33.780 say, Oh, the stupid conspiracy theorists and how, how dare Pierre give them oxygen or, or even 1.00

00:26:38.660 acknowledge them. But, but it's a fact that the Trudeau government gets inspired by these kind of 1.00

00:26:42.660 radical leftist ideas that get, um, shopped around at these kinds of conferences. We we've seen that with

00:26:47.300 climate policies, with punishing oil and gas recently with, uh, online harms or censorship.

00:26:52.180 I'm wondering if, if, uh, if you, uh, being on the ground there, what, what, what is the main

00:26:57.140 theme of the conference this year? What are people talking about and what should Canadians be concerned

00:27:01.060 about on the horizon? What's the, what's the next thing that Trudeau is going to get inspired by?

00:27:05.300 Well, the, the official theme has been rebuilding trust, which I think is an evergreen theme,

00:27:09.540 but if you look at the panels that they're having, it's all about climate, the environment.

00:27:13.380 A lot of people are walking around with these UN sustainable development goal pins, but they're

00:27:17.460 not UN employees. They're executives at Microsoft and Google that are all just walking around with

00:27:22.580 these UN pins. So I think that the climate change stuff is the biggest stuff for Canadians, but

00:27:27.700 certainly free speech as well. I mean, there was a clip I posted yesterday that went viral of

00:27:31.620 Australia's e-safety commissioner talking about how we need to recalibrate things like freedom of

00:27:36.580 speech. So we know that this is some stuff that's very much on the radar for Justin Trudeau.

00:27:41.300 I don't believe that Klaus Schwab is running the show in Canada, but I believe that the World Economic

00:27:45.380 Forum is putting out a series of policies that people like Justin Trudeau really want to lap up.

00:27:49.860 And I think that's why to go back to your original question of why are we here? Canadians need to be

00:27:53.860 paying attention to this. Well, absolutely. And again, Andrew, if it wasn't for the reporting that

00:27:58.180 you're doing, we just wouldn't even be aware of any of this. We wouldn't, wouldn't have the details.

00:28:03.060 And so we really, really appreciate you going and doing what most legacy media journalists and

00:28:07.620 candidates refuse to do, which is simply go observe, gather information, and you're doing

00:28:12.180 a great journalism out there. We appreciate it. And sorry, we're getting you, making you stand

00:28:15.700 out in the rain, but it's all worth it for the story. Excellent. Well, thank you so much, Andrew,

00:28:20.980 for reporting on the ground. That is Andrew Lawton on the ground in Davos, Switzerland,

00:28:24.500 doing excellent journalism, doing the kind of work that the legacy media refuses to do.

00:28:28.580 If you want to help True North out, if you want to help us allow our journalists to,

00:28:32.660 to go to these kinds of events, it costs a lot of money to send a reporter over there. We don't have

00:28:37.060 the deep pockets. We don't have subsidies and grants and funding from the Trudeau government,

00:28:41.620 like most other legacy media outlets. So if you want to help support the work we do,

00:28:45.860 head on over to tnc.news slash donate, and you can help fund that trip to Switzerland for Andrew Lawton,

00:28:54.020 doing great reporting on the ground. It's so important to shine a light on what is going on there,

00:28:58.020 not to give oxygen, again, to the conspiracy theorists, but just to show the problem with

00:29:03.060 the mindset of the people and the radical left-wing policies that are being cooked up

00:29:08.420 in these back rooms and on the stage at Davos, Switzerland. Well, thank you so much for tuning

00:29:14.900 in. I'm Candice Moncombe, and this is The Candice Moncombe Show.

Juno News - May 24, 2022

WEF experts and elites want even more control

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