00:01:25.560So as far as I'm aware, Canada has become a very, like, radical left-wing government.
00:01:29.840I know, like, I'm a fan of Jordan Peterson, and I know he's been dealing with a lot of issues because of, like, the gender stuff.
00:01:36.160I think the pronouns issues and trying to arrest him and put him into a kind of re-education camp because he's not saying she damn pronouns to certain people.
00:01:45.020So to me, it's like this country in America, we have free speech.
00:01:48.660And in Canada, we're trying to get rid of that by enforcing some kind of hate speech ideas on this in that country.
00:01:54.400So to me, Justin Trudeau is a very bad person.
00:04:32.180Worse than his father could ever have been.
00:04:34.540And the next question we have for people here is, if you had to pick between Joe Biden as your leader or Justin Trudeau as your leader, and you could only pick one or the other, who would it be?
00:04:43.460Well, I'd certainly pick Joe Biden because he has less of a shelf life.
00:04:46.540So from a purely Machiavellian standpoint, I would do that.
00:04:49.260Not wishing any harm on anybody or a premature demise, but just from an analytical standpoint.
00:06:38.020And maybe they've got a chance to rethink who they are.
00:06:39.660Conservatives in Canada seem to be on the same sort of path as the Tories in the UK.
00:06:45.240They are afraid to address politically incorrect issues, namely on immigration.
00:06:49.960We don't have the sort of legal threat, but we have a sort of legal immigration to flood in our country.
00:06:54.540What would you be your message, maybe Conservatives who are afraid to touch on these important issues that are shaping our country, but they also need to?
00:07:01.480You know, I was told, when I was a lifelong campaigner to do the European Union, I've always told, it's a minority of you.
00:07:48.060All right, so we're here at CPAC and we're here with the chairman of CPAC Hungary, Miklos Santo.
00:07:53.440Tell me about what Hungary has been able to do to turn around your birth rate.
00:07:57.700I know that's been a policy that we've heard about in Canada, in our country.
00:08:00.860We have a plummeting birth rate and nobody seems willing to actually address this issue.
00:08:05.000Thank you very much for having me on the show.
00:08:07.580Look, at the heart or at the core of Hungary's family policy is to create a so-called work-fair society instead of welfare society.
00:08:19.140Meaning that the government launched 10, 14 years ago a program which literally forces or encourages at least via the taxation system everyone to join the labor market.
00:08:34.360Meaning that all of the social benefits were cut, which social benefits were not related to having a job.
00:08:46.480And all of the social benefits, including tax benefits and many other literally money related to having a family and having children were attached to your income, to your legal salary.
00:09:02.180That meant a very high, very intensive rise in employment and actually the unemployment rate in Hungary is around 3%.
00:09:12.060So actually who can work nowadays in Hungary is on the job market and works.
00:09:17.800And the important thing which relates to the family policy and to the rise in the birth rates is that if you're in the job market and if you establish your family and if you have one children, two, three, four, etc.
00:09:39.900The more tax benefits, the more tax benefits, the more money you get from the state, I know it sounds a little bit socialistic, but that's the way how we can how we can do this.
00:09:51.320Because I think conservatives, I think conservatives shouldn't be dogmatic if it comes to important issues.
00:09:56.160So if you're in the job market and you do have a legal income and if you have a family and if you have the more children, the less tax you pay.
00:10:05.880For example, mothers, women after four children and from the next year after three children, they do not pay any income tax.
00:10:13.960So the idea, the ideology behind this whole structure is to get people on the job market and to give them as many tax cuts, tax benefits and state fund as possible if they do work.
00:10:30.600And of course, additionally, for women, there are extra special programs if they are not able to join the labor market because they are at home with the children.
00:10:46.040Then they come, then they get extras from the state, but only if they do have children and only if they are at home and not on the job market because they spend their time with their family.
00:10:58.900We found another Canadian at CPAC, that being Chris Pavlowski, the CEO of Rumble.
00:11:04.360Take a listen to what we talked about, specifically about the state of free speech in Canada and what the future looks like for Rumble.
00:11:11.580Let me know what you think about the state of the Canadian free speech, basically the state of free speech in Canada.
00:11:18.920We have Bill C-18 and Bill C-11 that have come through that have severely restricted Canadians' access to getting content out there.
00:11:25.940You, with Rumble, you've been able to fight back against that.
00:11:28.700What do you think of what's going on in your home country, Canada?
00:11:31.780A lot of it's very disappointing with these bills that we're seeing come out.
00:11:36.100None of it is at the point where we're in trouble yet, but there are things that we're kind of fighting and we're kind of pushing back against.
00:11:45.740And Rumble, I think, is at the forefront of that.
00:11:48.440We're the tip of the spear when it comes to pushing for freedom of expression, allowing people to have authentic conversations,
00:11:54.140really hear what people believe and give their own opinions.
00:11:58.120And what we're seeing with a lot of these bills is restricting that.
00:12:01.640You're not going to be able to know who the person is in front of you.
00:12:03.860And you kind of want to know who the person is in front of you.
00:12:06.180You want to know who you're listening to.
00:12:07.880You don't want to hear a talking head that's being told what to say.
00:12:17.060And that's what we're pushing back against.
00:12:19.980But, you know, till now, right, obviously, Bill C-11, we don't believe it's going to be what, you know, we thought it was going to be on the worst side.
00:12:31.840But it is very disappointing with a lot of the things that we have seen, for sure.
00:12:35.820And you guys started in Canada, right, but you had to leave the country.
00:12:39.060And we say that a lot with a bunch of companies who are having to leave the country because they're not creating an environment that's good for companies to thrive.
00:12:47.940Take us through that whole process and why you guys had to leave Canada.
00:12:51.820Well, we're still in Canada, number one.
00:13:01.520We're not planning to leave the country.
00:13:02.960I think it's very important that we maintain our roots there and we really push back against, you know, bills that we think that are not good.
00:13:14.960Ones that don't, you know, inherit the values that even the Canadian Bill of Rights has, freedom of expression.
00:13:22.240I think people forget that freedom of expression is actually a human right.
00:13:26.840If you take a look at the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights, Article 19, it's freedom of expression.
00:13:35.740This is a basic fundamental human right.
00:13:38.620And as a company that was born in Canada and as a Canadian myself, it's very important for me to continue to fight there and to really push back and, you know, kind of push the pendulum back to normalcy.
00:13:52.780And I think we're kind of seeing that.
00:13:54.980Rumble has been, like, one of the main guards, the tip of the spear in that fight.
00:13:59.420You know, you had Truth Social emerge and now you have Elon Musk purchasing X.
00:14:03.560You're starting to see the pushback happen.
00:14:05.620You're starting to see a lot of people vocalize in Canada.
00:14:08.680And I do think the pendulum is swinging back in our favor.
00:14:11.740And I personally and as the company really want to be at the forefront of helping that happen.
00:14:19.600Rumble has grown exponentially over the past few years.
00:14:29.240So when it comes to Rumble, I look at it as two lanes of business for us.
00:14:33.540The first lane is the video platform where creators can, you know, express themselves, do live streams, video.
00:14:41.820And the other side of the business will be Rumble Cloud.
00:14:44.140So it'll be one will be the infrastructure business and the other one will be the video platform business.
00:14:48.640So those are the two things that I see as very important for Rumble in the future and the two things that I'll be pushing very, very, I'll be very focused on going forward.
00:14:56.980And we also caught up with Tom Homan, the former acting director of Immigrations, Customs and Enforcement under Donald Trump.
00:15:05.140We've heard a lot about what's going on in the southern border in the United States, but not a lot about what's going on in the northern border and how Canada has played a role in facilitating illegal crossings into the United States.
00:15:15.460Listen to some of the detail he talks about here about what's going on on the U.S. northern border.
00:15:20.700So what do you make of what's been going on there?
00:15:22.720There's not a lot of noise that comes up to Canada about the problems that America faces from a northern border.
00:15:27.440But do you think the U.S. needs to take that more seriously?
00:15:50.400Remember, after 9-11, GAO did a study, and they said that a terrorist crossing the northern border is ten times more likely than one crossing the southern border.
00:16:03.680And the number of people off the terrorist watch list that crossed the northern border last year are almost double the southern border.
00:16:08.440But crossings in the northern border are up 400 to 600 percent, depending on what sector you're looking at.
00:16:13.280I grew up near Alex Bay, you know, again, in Akwe, Kingston area, and their numbers are sky high.
00:16:20.340So, and the problem is with the Canadian border, we got very few border patrol agents up there, and half of them have been assigned to the southern border,
00:16:28.160which means there's very little patrol on the northern border at all, so it's a big national security vulnerability.